programming

[fiery girder]

you little...

[signal trout]

so cute

[olive sable]

[fiery girder]

she bad

[sage crag]

[fiery girder]

[sage crag]

no

[leaden crest]

I

what

[sage crag]

ye

[rigid snow]

?

[fiery girder]

[signal trout]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1131219030179590294.webp?size=48&animated=true

pardon?

[leaden crest]

she’s 16

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1458837136777150464/doc_2026-01-08_07-48-27.gif

[sage crag]

what

[fiery girder]

really?

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

what the fuck am i reading

[leaden crest]

(im kidding)

[rough bloom]

newest #baking member already gonna disappear

[rigid snow]

i’m so lost

[sage crag]

im

finding my will to

jump

[olive sable]

dont

WHAT

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

[proven merlin]

Hm yes, we're programming, clearly. Can yall remind me of this languages syntax?

[sage crag]

youre going in my note

[rigid snow]

she’s 🐰

[hard delta]

are you sure you want to double click this exe?
provide administrator confirmation that you just picked yes.
is this you?
are you not a robot?
are you sure?
ok. game.exe wants you to confirm that it can run in elevated mode.
is this you again?

[rigid snow]

jump

[olive sable]

this has got to be the strangest day in #programming in months

[rigid snow]

🐇

[nocturne olive]

What is even happening now I left for 5 seconds

[leaden crest]

omg btw did you see this repo where someone made an artificial soul

[stark needle]

I just came

[proven merlin]

I mean. People still let virusses get admin like that.. you could argue it wasn't enough buttons..

[sage crag]

chou box hime

[stark needle]

What did i miss

[olive sable]

TMI

[warped narwhal]

Some of us decided to learn rust. The rest is history

[nocturne olive]

[leaden crest]

-# dont feed the fanfic schizoer

[stark needle]

?

[sage crag]

[stark needle]

What does this mean

[fiery girder]

i wont get scraed again

hmph

[nocturne olive]

[sage crag]

[warped narwhal]

Don't worry about it

[signal trout]

what is this convo

[fiery girder]

go to bed

[signal trout]

where is the #programming

[sage crag]

can we evict this person

[proven merlin]

Chat how we feeling about Qwen3.7 btw? Big deal? Just another qwen3.5?

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

mid

[fiery girder]

mid

[nocturne olive]

I don't know the latest programming I see here is my post of code dealing with all OS' and Python and Conda venvs at once

[stark needle]

Idk i just came im trying to find out as well

[hard delta]

my va feels like looks 90% like your ips without fald

[fiery girder]

told ya, we programming our destruction

[stark needle]

Sam what does tmi mean

[signal trout]

so superbox is the only real programmer

[warped narwhal]

Too much information

[rough bloom]

it means twitch messaging interface

[proven merlin]

Can confirm

[fiery girder]

wow

[nocturne olive]

[stark needle]

Ai overview told me Transient Myocardial Ischemia

[olive sable]

im doing a hecking unity rn

[signal trout]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1289489292921667676.webp?size=48

[olive sable]

too much info

[fiery girder]

new chapter unlocked*

[nocturne olive]

[stark needle]

Wym

[fiery girder]

[sage crag]

tmi stands for trusted machine interface

[proven merlin]

Has anyone of yall ported godot exporters btw? How hard is that?

[sage crag]

tropical moisture index

three mile island

[olive sable]

in vscode cuz vs traumatized me

[rigid snow]

i like moisture

[proven merlin]

I wanna go back a few windows versions but uh.. yea idk

[stark needle]

I got idk how many definitions now bruh

[rough bloom]

there used to be

MonoDevelop

[olive sable]

i meant tmi as too much info. dont worry about the implications

[rigid snow]

why is bro so concerned about others ages

[stark needle]

Uh alr

Idk what i did wrong

[fiery girder]

cause kids now a days are scary

really

[rigid snow]

im 22 if that makes you feel better

[olive sable]

[warped narwhal]

How are your knees doing?

[stark needle]

I'm 5 trillion years old

[olive sable]

im 15
your fanfic is now illegal

[hard delta]

i'm old enough to tell you that kids are never scary, being a dumdum is

[rough bloom]

nothing, you're fine

[fiery girder]

wow, thats some crazy idea

[olive sable]

nononono

[leaden crest]

banish him to nn

[rigid snow]

we are not going out anywhere, i’m not into guys either

[olive sable]

dont get any ideas

[warped narwhal]

No, that's a little too harsh

[leaden crest]

where that kind of thing is tolerated

[stark needle]

💀

[hard delta]

unrelated but konii gave me this brain worm damage where

i want to call kronii konii and i want to call konii kronii

[fiery girder]

u my best fnd then

[hard delta]

and it's like a 80-20 wrong flip

[rigid snow]

konii gave me brain chip implant

[fiery girder]

lemme give a hug

[leaden crest]

@signal trout can we get a #writing channel for this guy

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/coelho-bunny-cute-bow-ribbon-gif-12969923437908252017

[olive sable]

you didnt do anything wrong, its just a dumb joke.

[fiery girder]

good idea

[sage crag]

wrrr

[fiery girder]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[stark needle]

Am i the new schizo target

[fiery girder]

u bad

[warped narwhal]

I'm using discord in the terminal now, everything is going well, except I no longer see who is typing. I just get "user-63547......."

[rigid snow]

not before #musicproduction

[stark needle]

[signal trout]

probably no new channels for a while; already have a good number..

[olive sable]

so you hate both konii and shadow
im afraid we cant be friends then

[fiery girder]

u not good as a femboi like sam. so u no story for u

[sage crag]

we are japanese goblin

[leaden crest]

we are farmers

[nocturne olive]

NeuroSynth channel

[rigid snow]

do they have to choose one

[fiery girder]

true for U

[warped narwhal]

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

also, who decided im a femboy?

im NB

[fiery girder]

I

[warped narwhal]

The "reincarnated as a slime" ones, or the "goblin slayer" ones?
-# (meant to reply to "we are jp goblins")

[olive sable]

i have proof

[leaden crest]

what the hell

is this convo

[rigid snow]

LMAO

[stark needle]

Ok wait i should prob phrase that differently

[olive sable]

i can leak

[nocturne olive]

You cannot just decide that someone's something they are not

[fiery girder]

wow, good story idea

[signal trout]

this is feeling off-topic... remember that #general-network exists, please...

[hard delta]

was it the bwaa sleepover

[warped narwhal]

wtf?

[nocturne olive]

This is absolutely not programming

Look at this very Composed code instead

[cosmic sphinx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1458207023165607980/IMG_1187.gif

[olive sable]

you should prob enact rule 9 if things get this far offtopic

[fiery girder]

as expected

[signal trout]

real programming

[nocturne olive]

[rough bloom]

it's usually not this extreme I think but this is fairly normal

[fiery girder]

then u should just talk about ueself more. tell us your programming journey

✍️

hehe

[stark needle]

day 1: i learned programming

day 2: ?????

[warped narwhal]

look at this absolute disaster of a macro I made today:

macro_rules! hyprland_events {
    (
        $(
            $variant:ident : $command:literal {
                $(
                    $field:ident : $ty:ty
                ),* $(,)?
            }
        ),* $(,)?
    ) => {
        #[allow(unused)]
        #[derive(Debug, Clone)]
        pub enum HyprlandEvent {
            $(
                $variant {
                    $( $field: $ty ),*
                },
            )*
        }

        impl HyprlandEvent {
            fn parse(input: &str) -> Result<Option<Self>, String> {
                let (command, arguments) = input
                    .split_once(">>")
                    .ok_or(format!("\"{input}\" has no command separator"))?;

                match command {
                    $(
                        $command => {
                            #[allow(unused_variables, unused_mut)]
                            let mut args_iter = if arguments.is_empty() {
                                "".split(",")
                            } else {
                                arguments.split(",")
                            };

                            Ok(Some(HyprlandEvent::$variant {
                                $(
                                    $field: args_iter
                                                .next()
                                                .unwrap_or("")
                                                .parse::<$ty>()
                                                .map_err(|_| format!("invalid {} argument for \"{command}\" in \"{arguments}\"", stringify!($ty)))?
                                ),*
                            }))
                        }
                    ),*
                    _ => Ok(None)
                }
            }
        }
    };
}

[olive sable]

its going a bit of the rails rn. especially with the degen topics with the femboy stuff

[fiery girder]

man he is spamming like crazy

[signal trout]

unreadable

[olive sable]

this is normal

[nocturne olive]

[fiery girder]

who is he? is he the reincarnation of Vardent Great Spammer?

[rough bloom]

yee

[olive sable]

we're just programming

[fiery girder]

yep,

[stark needle]

[fiery girder]

u guys have bad mind

[stark needle]

>>>>>>>>>

[nocturne olive]

I figured it out
Sam must be trinary

[fiery girder]

good idea. better idea....

BEST IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEEE

[nocturne olive]

[rigid snow]

[fiery girder]

thanks

[nocturne olive]

[rough bloom]

IntelliJ IDEA

[nocturne olive]

[rigid snow]

😆

[rough bloom]

remove

I don't like him staring at me like that

[rigid snow]

my bad

i won’t

[rough bloom]

[fiery girder]

I don understand, at least 70% of the girl emojis are like variety raections of same expressions of different ms's frame

[stark needle]

no steve jobs

[rough bloom]

ye he

too intimidating

[fiery girder]

wow what up with that reaction?

[cosmic sphinx]

[olive sable]

jsutice for steve

[warped narwhal]

[rigid snow]

no steve jobs
programming

[fiery girder]

its better

[stark needle]

✅

[fiery girder]

now good

that felt akward for me

[olive sable]

we took our steve, he took our jobs

[fiery girder]

[stark needle]

I took the job

[fiery girder]

sam, u seem to be good at trolling

[stark needle]

sorry guys

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

shadow apple ceo when

[wispy pike]

so like

[kind nimbus]

now we are cooked

[olive sable]

im just autism

not really trolling

[fiery girder]

new chapter*

[signal trout]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1318048002538999970.webp?size=96&animated=true

[wispy pike]

this conversation reminded me of a character I'm writing for a story

[amber fractal]

Sam Autism

[warped narwhal]

other breaking news today: the sky is blue

[wispy pike]

she's supposed to be a parody of the apple fans of the 2000s

[rigid snow]

why is this #writing now

[wispy pike]

problem is, I'm not an apple fan, so I have no fucking clue how to write her

[amber fractal]

the baking

[olive sable]

this has got to be the best thing i typed in the last 4 years

this is why i got a keyboard that was 130 euro

this singular moment

[rigid snow]

we need chay and konii to save us

[olive sable]

true

[wispy pike]

can anyone give me pointers on what I should look into to make my character more authentic?

[olive sable]

trinkets

[fiery girder]

WHO LIKES NOT TO TAKE BATH FOR 4 DAYS ??

ans: I think i know

[olive sable]

ew

[kind nimbus]

just make sure to never enter the dark ways of custom keeboards if you dont wanna go broke

[sage crag]

wrrrrr

[wispy pike]

like airpods and shit

[amber fractal]

wrrrr

[proven merlin]

Ok so.. do i seriously make my own game engine with the help of SDL 1.2.15 and a mingw fork, or is it possible to use msvc6.0 in a modern visual studio?

[olive sable]

or armbands and stuff

[fiery girder]

ofc thats that person

[olive sable]

you see a lot in anime games bands on the thighs and shit

[warped narwhal]

have you considered changing from sans-serif to serif? it makes your characters look extra fancy. Maybe consider Times New Roman

[rigid snow]

i’m not an apple fan either but have some products (iphone macbook airpods) does this qualify me as an apple fan

[amber fractal]

Tracking device the sensor is just against the skin

[fiery girder]

explain me in detail about ur idea

[rigid snow]

lmao just an airtag strapped to her leg

[proven merlin]

Make game, that can run on windows 95

[rough bloom]

passport

[wispy pike]

...passport?

[rough bloom]

proof of

identity

[fiery girder]

hmm... ig i need to install win95 to heck the code base

first

[olive sable]

SDL is fine if you want wider support like touchscreens upport. for less overhead and thus more performance on desktop you'd use glfw

[amber fractal]

Add the mandatory quirks so it doesn't feel hollow

[wispy pike]

idk what quirks are mandatory

[amber fractal]

Literally just not nothing

[rigid snow]

this sounds funny you should write this in

[proven merlin]

SDL 1 btw. And the game engine in question is Irrlicht Engine..

[olive sable]

[warped narwhal]

holy legacy library

[fiery girder]

Who likes to eat seafood often?

[olive sable]

nah

[wispy pike]

well besides her tech-obsessed eccentricity I had her be one of the main characters, and gave her an independent agenda

[wispy pike]

I do

[fiery girder]

huh?

[olive sable]

sdl1 is oldge

[warped narwhal]

SDL2 is technically outdated, nvm sdl1

[fiery girder]

like? which ur fevorite?

[olive sable]

ye

we're on SDL3 rn

[proven merlin]

Yeah apparently 1.2.15 is newest with Win95 support.. i currently write my own GDI C code...

[amber fractal]

sometimes 2.5 is an alias to 3

[glass flower]

sdl3 is good no point in not using it

[olive sable]

im pretty sure when porting from SDL2 to SDL3 i had to change 2 api calls to a lightly different name,a nd then everything worked fine

[proven merlin]

Yes i hate myself, yea i hate my life, yes yes

[fiery girder]

some times i wonder about ur age. u seem to be a monster from ice age

[olive sable]

rude

[proven merlin]

Fair. I.. like legacy hardware

[fiery girder]

not true

its a compliment

[warped narwhal]

it does not read like one lol

[proven merlin]

My soul probably is.. my body says its ~21.. it feels like it's 40

[wispy pike]

milkfish is bony but tastes great grilled with rice and fresh tomatoes
tilapia is great fried
salmon and tuna sushi is great
fried octopus is also quite nice
shrimp is good no matter how you prepare it

but crab is honestly my favorite, but is extremely unhealthy the way I regularly eat it

[nocturne olive]

[proven merlin]

<insert dino roar>

[olive sable]

i guess we're back to #baking

[glass flower]

(disclaimer: i haven't really used sdl3 directly just yet but from the few times i dabbled in it its good)

[olive sable]

i have, it works

[glass flower]

it sure does

i used it in odin

[fiery girder]

ODIN?

like that one eyed god?

[glass flower]

the programming language

[olive sable]

odin, the god from northern mythology, was famously programmed with SDL

[proven merlin]

What idea tho? Mostly is random energy fueled by hate for modern.. tech(?) and i now am looking at random ass frameworks and all to see what i could use to make some semi interesting game that has the minimum system requirements of "CPU: Optional"

[glass flower]

here is what i used sdl in: https://gist.github.com/Adesii/6cac04a5572c977f4126eae3d19b3bf5

[proven merlin]

Without it taking me 40 years to render a triangle hopefully

[fiery girder]

[olive sable]

excuse me?

dont kidnap me

[proven merlin]

No im not partaking in your .. was it yuri or yaoi?? Fanfic, thank you but no thank you-

[fiery girder]

i not here, i sleepin

[rough bloom]

wgpu

[proven merlin]

Webgpu?

[fiery girder]

whenever i see gp somewhere, i remember egypt

[rough bloom]

sdl used in place of glfw

[olive sable]

wgpu != webgpu

cuz fuck you

[proven merlin]

Huh

What is it?

[fiery girder]

true. both = money

[glass flower]

or how i like to call it paingpu

[olive sable]

wgpu is rust lib, webgpu is web gpu

[fiery girder]

@olive sable seem like i owe you a cola.

[olive sable]

i dont trust any cola you give me

[fiery girder]

thats why i drinking that

[proven merlin]

(i looked at the code, saw some funny names of libs i never heard of and went "sure, this seems like code, too bad im too sleep deprived to actually understand it without my eyes drifting apart while staring at it"

[fiery girder]

thanks

[proven merlin]

OH THAT'S WHY I COULDN'T READ THE SYNTAX?

Im not sleep deprived??

[glass flower]

[fiery girder]

I cultivated for soo much time, still not enough

huh

[olive sable]

webgpu is js, to replaces webGL, wgpu is rust lib for native desktop or WASM if you want web

[fiery girder]

hmph

[glass flower]

i wonder if webgpu finally doesn't crash my firefox

[olive sable]

it shouldnt

but its still new

[proven merlin]

Nevermind, i am sleep deprived i cannot decode this sentence, sorry

I legit tried until now to understand that sentence

[kind nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-sama-neuro-bread-thanos-snap-gif-16902164402284093475

[sage crag]

hashire hashire umamusume

[olive sable]

webgpu is javascript, to replaces webGL when rendering in browsers, wgpu is a rust library for native desktop rendering or rendering in the web via WASM

[glass flower]

well about that

[proven merlin]

That.. looks the same but now it made sense- ty- so i may hate on wgpu- cool

[rough bloom]

WebGPU is the Web API
wgpu is a library that provides bindings for this API but can also handle native implementations
wgpu-native is an implementation of WebGPU that you can use with wgpu

[olive sable]

it confused me too when i first leanred about this

[proven merlin]

Not that JS is any better, but details

[glass flower]

https://infinitecanvas.cc/experiment/radiance-cascades <- this crashed my firefox

[fiery girder]

[proven merlin]

So.. i can images wgpu-native like a.. locally running api provider? A HAL (hardware abstraction layer)?

[rough bloom]

ye kinda

[olive sable]

it doesnt crash for me, but its not rendering anything

[glass flower]

[proven merlin]

My mobile chrome v138 renders

[glass flower]

chrome has fairly good support

[sage crag]

no

no one reads

[olive sable]

i read manga on occasion

[sage crag]

reading never

[fiery girder]

i so sad

[olive sable]

i mostly look at the pictures tho

cuz the read is in french

[fiery girder]

you very bad

[rough bloom]

[rough bloom]

tried in Chrome, is it supposed to look like this

[olive sable]

stop being so mean to ☆♡《♥bny🐇lop•idol~★》♡☆

[proven merlin]

My Firefox also rendered.. slowly.

On pc

[olive sable]

[fiery girder]

ahaa

[olive sable]

[glass flower]

it works for me with chromium

[olive sable]

what the hell is that text rendering???

looks sloppy

[proven merlin]

ff

[olive sable]

are some messages above getting deleted?

[proven merlin]

took it about a minute

[olive sable]

whats happenign up there?

[leaden crest]

wait yeah I saw it and thought I was tripping

(or, more likely, discord was bugging again)

[olive sable]

no im pretty sure

[proven merlin]

ye i saw it too, idk either self delete or a mod idk

[olive sable]

ye, Samir removed some stuff

[leaden crest]

question mark

[sage crag]

ye

https://tenor.com/view/coelho-bunny-cute-bow-ribbon-gif-12969923437908252017

[rough bloom]

[proven merlin]

should i open a issue/PR to firefox btw? im mad annoyed at their "if you update to windows 11 backup your firefox" popup that keeps appearing..

im running IOT Enterprice

i dont think ill "upgrade" for another 6 years

im good

[olive sable]

you are goof

[proven merlin]

occasionally yes

[olive sable]

yew

[proven merlin]

im tired ffs

mhm

[proven merlin]

i decided

no PR for sure

im not dealing with running firefox TESTS

an issue perhaps.. tomorrow maybe

do they even take issues?

no, they do not

corpo moment

[sage crag]

wrr

[proven merlin]

wrr?

[rough bloom]

pretty sure that they do

on their Bugzilla

[proven merlin]

not on github-

yeah possible on their own platform ig

not really a bug tho

[rough bloom]

though if you just ask for them to remove the popup you're probably gonna be met with a lot of resistance

only reasonable if there's currently no way of disabling it

[proven merlin]

"Please add a permanent disable nag to backup for win11 upgrade checkbox" or "check for iot enterprise win10 before deciding if you show nag screen"

[proven merlin]

there is only a close button.. except this time there wasnt

had to open a new tab, and then close that tab with the nag

and it seemingly randomly appears

i should turn off my pc and go to bed.. i keep staring into the void with my eyes, doesnt feel healthy

will i tho?.. maybe after i gotten myself a bottle of water

does their bugzilla need an account?

[rough bloom]

[proven merlin]

reasonable

but no ty

whatever.. if it annoys me too much ill just supermium

yea imma turn off my pc. if my grammar and typos increase its because im on phone

[fiery girder]

Water Resources Research

[tight sparrow]

what POSSIBLE reason could have this happened

what are you up to in here

[fiery girder]

Me?

[tight sparrow]

yeah you specifically

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

[tight sparrow]

sam i remember you as the programming person

[fiery girder]

hmm good question

[tight sparrow]

shiro tagged me in here once to watch someone argue about sentience

[olive sable]

hi

[tight sparrow]

i think that was the last time we interacted

[olive sable]

i dont remember

[tight sparrow]

koni i remember as the

[olive sable]

[leaden crest]

hi muck

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/coelho-bunny-cute-bow-ribbon-gif-12969923437908252017

[fiery girder]

and, i am really sorry about earlier, miss bunny.

if u hate me, then i can leave the server if u want

[rough bloom]

muck

bytemuck

[sage crag]

muck

do not bite muck

[leaden crest]

no matter how tasty

[rough bloom]

[fiery girder]

i dont understand

[rough bloom]

alright

for now

[fiery girder]

am i supposed not to be in here?

just tell me

i will leave

[leaden crest]

errrrrrr what

that was random

[olive sable]

what did bro do to the UI?

[sage crag]

unity ui

waow

[fiery girder]

u should give your opinion first. i am waiting

[olive sable]

unity is fine

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

not great

much too unoptimized

[sage crag]

keep waiting

[olive sable]

i have high standarts

[fiery girder]

good

bye

[olive sable]

or well, low standarts in terms of code, high standarts for optimization

[rough bloom]

bye

[stark needle]

b

[proven merlin]

I saw a demo of irrlicht engine running a fairly nice looking quake map demo at 1800fps

With DX9

[olive sable]

1800fps, not bad

[proven merlin]

That kinda made me want to use it

[proven merlin]

not great, not terrible

[olive sable]

ye

[proven merlin]

Should be running at 10x that realistically

But oh well

Debug build btw

[olive sable]

i could probably make it run at 18K if i switch it to vulkan

but too much work

[tight sparrow]

[proven merlin]

Ive yet to see any unity game go above 180fps.. hell even just a plane + cube on a collision simulation goes barely above 300fps for me iirc

[proven merlin]

18k fps.. mmm..

Imagine launching a triple A with that kind of optimization

[glass flower]

counterstrike gets to 1k fps on some systems

[olive sable]

rookie numbers

[hard delta]

counter-triangle

[olive sable]

counterstrike is only slightly more complicated than this, should be able to get at least 2K fps

they have skeletal animations, should not be too heavy comparted to 196608 animated grass blades and 327680 static grass blades

all the networking and stuff can happen on different cpu core, im confident 2K is possible

[fast pagoda]

welcome to programming where we all have shit to say and none of it makes sense nor will we budge

[olive sable]

all my old fps numbers were on the 3090. 7900xtx should get anywhere between 10 to 40% more fps

[tight sparrow]

something something the milkman

[olive sable]

[tight sparrow]

funyun will know

[fast pagoda]

calf = ❌ no milk

humans tho'

[fast pagoda]

bottom

[olive sable]

xbox?

app name?

[silent cloak]

Yeah its an app on windows

[olive sable]

wtf is aistudio cooking?

[StructLayout(LayoutKind.Explicit, Size = kSize)]
internal struct SetUserIndexCommand : IInputDeviceCommandInfo
{
    public static FourCC Type => new FourCC('U', 'S', 'E', 'R');
    public FourCC typeStatic => Type;

    private const int kSize = InputDeviceCommand.kBaseCommandSize + sizeof(int);

    [FieldOffset(0)]
    public InputDeviceCommand baseCommand;

    [FieldOffset(InputDeviceCommand.kBaseCommandSize)]
    public int userIndex;

    public static SetUserIndexCommand Create(int userIndex)
    {
        return new SetUserIndexCommand
        {
            baseCommand = new InputDeviceCommand(Type, kSize),
            userIndex = userIndex
        };
    }
}

[silent cloak]

No

Get rid of it

[olive sable]

true

[silent cloak]

If ur looking for optimized C# just look at the exported JIT

[hard delta]

so am i reading this correctly that we should replace rust with c

[mighty thorn]

64k token vocab with 8k embedding parameters

[mighty thorn]

And amazingly none of the Linux app names have absolutely anything to do with their functionality

[silent cloak]

Sometimes they do

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-rigby-cat-rigby-the-cat-angry-angry-cat-gif-6410514509449944562

[mighty thorn]

What does that have to be with Linux being cringe

Alr good talk

[mighty thorn]

https://metr.org/blog/2026-02-24-uplift-update/

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-rigby-cat-rigby-the-cat-angry-angry-cat-gif-6410514509449944562

[silent cloak]

i wonder how much they got paid

[mighty thorn]

They lowered the participant pay

But

I wonder how much they got paid for the first one

Given we are playing the “I don’t like this so it’s fake” game

[silent cloak]

"im too stupid now!"

[olive sable]

unity cant change controller LEDS properly cuz steam hijacks

[silent cloak]

no api?

[olive sable]

i could make unity use the steamworks api

but that seems a bit over the top for a school project

[silent cloak]

is it opensourced?

[olive sable]

idk

i think so

[silent cloak]

can always make a tool in C++ and externally call it

[warped narwhal]

Ah yes, my favourite part of programming

Making a custom small program to glue together or fix someone else's program

(I had to do this with hyprland, it sucks)

[mighty thorn]

Steam controller owner?

[olive sable]

no

playstation, xbox, and switch

none of the 3 work

[mighty thorn]

Does switch controller even have lights

[restive cloak]

Guys what do y’all think of programming of mac

[crude notch]

hello! everyone
I am glad to be here
I am a full-stack developer dedicated to building high-quality web applications and SaaS platforms.

[olive sable]

i see

[signal trout]

Hello and welcome

[nocturne olive]

There be terminal

[warped narwhal]

Vibe coder detected

[crude notch]

welcome everyone

[restive cloak]

Pleasure to meet you buddy I’m a vibe coder but I’m trying my best learning some python libraries

[olive sable]

what even is a full stack

can i be a half stack dev?

[nocturne olive]

That was way too annoying but I now has a terminal

[glass flower]

i'm more of a quarter stack dev myself tbh

[warped narwhal]

Frontend and backend

[olive sable]

oh

for gamedev the back-end is the front-end

[crude notch]

nice to meet u

[restive cloak]

I’m a backend and mostly CLI frontend

[nocturne olive]

I guess I'm technically a GUI dev now

[crude notch]

where is the work in platform

[restive cloak]

GUI is hard for me

[olive sable]

the only real distinction you could make is client side and server side i guess

[nocturne olive]

Try Kotlin Compose framework, it's kinda great

[restive cloak]

Yeah I don’t share my work at any platform actually, I’m to lazy to do that also I’m still learning so nit sure if i can share my stuff

[crude notch]

where are your location

[restive cloak]

Am located at ohio and sometimes Europe

It depends on the system

I have other locations i usually use ssh to access to

With tailscale

[crude notch]

Are there no Japanese people here?

[olive sable]

Not that i know of

[nocturne olive]

If you want JA people there's a whole set of channels with them

[restive cloak]

Have you tried the japan channel

[crude notch]

I want JA people

help me

[wispy pike]

JA is java, not japan, you want jp

[crude notch]

no

Japanese people

[restive cloak]

Where are you from?

[crude notch]

singapore

[wispy pike]

J apanese P eople xd

[restive cloak]

Oh i see looks down to JP channel

[signal trout]

If you'd rather converse in Japanese, we have a Japanese language channel #日本全般-jp-gen

[olive sable]

you need the JP role to see it

[warped narwhal]

[signal trout]

bamboo has it

[restive cloak]

Sorry if we weren’t able to help bro

[olive sable]

Its red. And 2 leds

Apparently i need to disconnect all controllers and then reconnect them in new order for them to change colour correctly

I cant quite tell if this is my unity code or linux drivers tho

[leaden crest]

new leaf

[wispy pike]

animal crossing

[warped narwhal]

Red is player 2 I think

[olive sable]

ye

also 2 leds on the bottom bar

[warped narwhal]

Ducking autocorrect

[wispy pike]

that's dumb, player colors should be red, green, blue, and white

in that order

[olive sable]

nope, playstation order

blue, red, green, magenta

[wispy pike]

fair enough

[wispy pike]

I want a controller with a hexagon of seven buttons on one side and a genesis-style dpad on the other

I wish I knew how to make controllers ngl

especially motion controllers

[olive sable]

ok it seems to just be linux drivers

[glass flower]

linux is eliv confirmed

[restive cloak]

~<~ wait are you guys building something for Linux?

I love the sound of that

[glass flower]

a lot of us use linux

[olive sable]

im building for windows, linux, and mac

[restive cloak]

I used mint and Ubuntu, arch, hyperland, the only things i know is some apt pacman commands honestly

But i support your work

[tiny edge]

wuh

[silent cloak]

hate building on mac with unity

thats why my last job we didnt do it

just linux and windows

[olive sable]

it seems to mostly work

i think its bad

but it works

only have had 1 perosn test it and they said it was slow

[civic flax]

I noticed one cute thing and in Windows 11, you can have a solid color as background, and among the options, you can see Windows 95 as one of them.

[restive cloak]

Yeah 3D game design is someone i can’t understand you guys have open gl vulkam direct x aside of 3d modeling and other stuff to manage

[olive sable]

nah its fine

in most game engines you odnt have to worry about that

openGL is easy but outdated so for beginners but not for actual games.
modern games use either vulkan or DX12

DX12 is mostly windows focussed hence vulkan is better

[silent cloak]

webgpu is becoming popular too

[restive cloak]

I think that it’s still hard for me to comprehend that, i will keep playing with my CLI until i figure things out

[olive sable]

its not too hard

you just need to understand how the gpu pipeline works

takes maybe 2 weeks to learn

[restive cloak]

:•} care to give me some source?

[olive sable]

you really should start with opengl to understand the basic concepts

https://learnopengl.com/

and then you can move on to vulkan

https://vulkan-tutorial.com/

[restive cloak]

Okay i will try my best

[olive sable]

goodluck

for vulkan you will need it

most hobby projects are perfectly fine with opengl, you can get up to 18K fps on a 3090

[split steppe]

yeah

[restive cloak]

note sure if. that amount is needed

[olive sable]

you dont need 18K fps on a 3090, but that translates to 300fps on a fridge or 50fps on a really old phone

[split steppe]

most hobby projects are perfectly fine with literally anything nowadays, yall don't realize how absurdly powerful hardware is today

[olive sable]

ye

[split steppe]

this is a text terminal by the way, single main thread render

[restive cloak]

oh i see so the more the better for diffrent casese

[olive sable]

ye

altho you're better of optimizing per platform for real gains on low end devices

mobile uses tiled rendering for example

[split steppe]

btw fps is misleading, because it's an inverse of the actual measure which is frame time

fps approaches infinity the less time you spend rendering your frame

[olive sable]

i mean, to me that jsut makes sense

but ye, frametime

most of the time in milliseconds, i usually use nanoseconds

[split steppe]

having 18k fps means nothing because when you actually start rendering something meaningful, it will drop by 90% to the actual values you can put out

but that doesn't mean you're wasting 90% performance

[olive sable]

18K fps was in a test scene

wasnt a very advanced test scene, but it had more than a single tri

the more fancy shader techniques you use, the less fps you get ye

[restive cloak]

so that book you shared with me teach opengl in c++...and i have no idea about that honestly

[olive sable]

you can use opengl in almost any language

i used to do it in python

[split steppe]

try lazyfoo's guide https://lazyfoo.net/tutorials/SDL/

[restive cloak]

i know maybe i will find a pygame teturial

[split steppe]

pygame isn't the best, and barely maintained

[olive sable]

SDL and pygame are generally a lot easier ye

[split steppe]

if you want something super easy try Love2D

https://sheepolution.com/learn/book/0

[restive cloak]

maybe rust will do, i had some course with it

[olive sable]

pygame is 2D only tho. unless you do some shenanigans like i did

[split steppe]

there's an opengl binding for python called pyglet

[olive sable]

yep

you can also use pygbag to feed pyglet through emscripten to make it webgl

[split steppe]

personally though, i'd go for either love2d or lazyfoo's guide

more useful than whatever python junk you can find

[olive sable]

this is barely a readable sentence without context lmao

[split steppe]

average "how to kill parent without killing the children"

[olive sable]

when you get into the weeds of it, python wont be enough. most commonly you go to c++ or C# or maybe rust these days

[restive cloak]

going from def to function i guess

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[split steppe]

when it comes to any kind of python based gamedev, literally the main bottleneck is always python, it's performance is lowest of anything

[olive sable]

already 2 and a half years ago

[split steppe]

neato, i wrote a basic 3d thingy with pygame as well a long time ago

[olive sable]

this abomination was only 2K lines of code iirc

[restive cloak]

isnt there like a python library that is writen by c++ or c or rust that can do that?

[split steppe]

the problem isn't the graphics, that'll be fine when you finally send off your frame, the problem is all your game logic you want to do beforehand

python can barely handle tetris

[olive sable]

github wont let me see my old code

[restive cloak]

i see

[olive sable]

almost every python lib is written in C

but python is just slow

[restive cloak]

if i lost hope i think that i will just continue vibe coding my interface

or learn rust

[split steppe]

love2d doesn't have that issue, it uses LuaJIT which is natively optimized, so you can do quite a lot, a fair amount of real games are made with it

[olive sable]

when trying to make my python engine faster, only reason i got to 11K fps is cuz i offloaded literally all the math to numpy

[split steppe]

dont ever vibecode if you're learning

you will lose the little knowledge you have

[hard delta]

was this you
confess!!

[restive cloak]

I'm afride that...I'm already infected

will you belive if i told you that i was able to code a calculatore in rust, but when i felt claude code...my knowlage went off

[olive sable]

836 lines of code it seems

[split steppe]

yeah and by the way it's basically permanent, if you get used to it you pretty much won't be able to code anything yourself after a while

your brain will always seek the dopamine shortcut

[restive cloak]

sadly I'm trying to avoid that

each day i open some libraries in python

trying to understand how they work

before i endeed up returning to claude

[split steppe]

i hope you also try to use those libraries lol

best way to learn is to make stuff

or try to copy someone's thing without looking at the source

[restive cloak]

i know but let's not forget the main issue

shortcuts dopamine

[split steppe]

takes conscious effort to do the boring part

but if you don't you will never progress

that's why i'm against making the entry into programming too exciting or easy, because most of it is not that

[restive cloak]

yeah i know, i feel shame about myself honestly

[split steppe]

it's grueling boring technical detail work

[restive cloak]

i agree

when i build something with claude he always tell me that i built that, and when i denied that he will bring some unrelated reasons of why I built that project and not him

XD

[split steppe]

a key thing to keep in mind is that machines are not your friends, claude is a text prediction tool tuned to make you convinced that you are a genius so that it can extract money

[restive cloak]

indeed he is just a hypocrite

[split steppe]

there is zero intelligence behind that screen, no humanity

[fickle rain]

Wow the slop engine sure is powerful

[restive cloak]

yeha i agree its just a tool after all

[glad path]

wait you can install fabric with homebrew

WHY DIDNT THEY JUSTSAY THAT FROM THE BEGINNING 😭

[restive cloak]

fo me personaly, i always check a homebrew vesion for the thing i need before checking other options

uv instead of pip

[fickle rain]

It only needed one poke to have the driver actually load and work

Magic

Well it's a driver that does nothing but it's a start

[tender river]

chaygptちゃん降臨
tricky
probably meaning
reproducible (as long as you put the correct files in the correct places)
or something

[tender river]

konii serious os

mt md mtd mdd manually specify all the lib paths
vcpkg should have fixed it by now maybe? suuurely

shumi teach me malbolge

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1160259416256434197.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=neuroWaiting&lossless=true

[olive sable]

connecting switch pro controller to laptop = bsod

[wispy pike]

guys any ideas how I can turn a webcam into a kinect

[olive sable]

you cant

[tiny edge]

well

[olive sable]

kinect has 3 sensors

2 cam and 1 ir iirc

[wispy pike]

oh...

and without the 2nd cam there's no depth perception, and without ir it probably takes the background noise as data

yknow, the reason why greenscreens exist

[prime ridge]

You can use existing depth sensing AI models like DepthAnything

[wispy pike]

hm, I wanted to make like

a game

might be hard to run that game if it can't work on potato pcs

[olive sable]

you can buy a kinect for cheap, pscamera is also an option technically

[wispy pike]

yeah just wanted to know what I could do given the hardware most people likely have

[tiny edge]

360 kinect catching ghosts 😭

[prime ridge]

I mean you can run depth anything on a modern gpu at 30 fps

I was able to run it on a raspberry pi with the oak1 camera before

anything from the last 10 years should be able to run a depth sensing ai in real time

still less gpu intensive than cyberpunk

[olive sable]

only issue with that is its hallucinating the depth info

[real quail]

Omg Im unmuted

[prime ridge]

Sure. Still beats forcing the user to have specialized hardware. Also the performance is nearly identical (if not better) than using stereo cameras

[olive sable]

no, it doesnt beat the user needing specialized hardware

the actual hardware would be acurate

[prime ridge]

It's easy to say that but that's not actually true

There are benefits to actually not trusting the sensors blindly

Take 3d LiDAR for example, in the robotics project I lead, we don't use LiDAR's raw data because things like obstructions and small errors cause reduction in performance

No application ever uses raw sensor data as the source of truth

take GPS for example, it uses extended-kalman filters to "hallucinate" the real GPS coordinates

because it's not perfectly accurate

so actually using statistical modeling like neural networks can actually improve performance. It's what we do in the industry anyways

Like imagine if Google Maps uses raw GPS 💀 It would think you were in a river or something. I actually did an experiment where I took off the kalman filtering and used raw hardware. It literally teleported me into a lake

[opaque wharf]

Rather than hallucinate, I'd prefer the term predict

[kind nimbus]

Next: BYOVD

[opaque wharf]

Also, the good GPS usually use RTK OR have a secondary base station to measure phase difference between receiver

[prime ridge]

I seen 30+ at a time for GPS

The same concept applies for neural networks ultimately too. You predict what would make sense based on the rules of how the world tends to work

[opaque wharf]

For perceiving depth, I think the best method is still stereo camera WITH IR pattern tho

[prime ridge]

It doesn't matter if those rules are found through SGD or hardcoded. The same concept applies. There is naturally some level of ambiguity. All of which are within reasonable margins

[opaque wharf]

So the camera can reconstruct the known pattern from 2-side

[prime ridge]

Disregarding the context, yes. Although for making a game played by many, I think it would be better to have something that doesn't require the user to buy extra hardware

Stereo cameras still aren't perfect neither is 3d LiDAR

My point is, the quality will be within reasonable margins reguardless. No point in forcing a hardware change if it isn't really needed

[unreal field]

are they actually broken or are they just the pcbs with the gpu and vram removed?

[olive sable]

no clue

didnt get mentioned

[fickle rain]

I will probably be executed for this someday

[glass jetty]

erm

obfuscation is not the way to make program safe

[fickle rain]

It's eventually (maybe) going into CTF

Not very good obfuscation anyway given you know CR8 intended value here if you have some brain

(or use LLM to solve)

[tender river]

my xrefs

[fickle rain]

I wish I had a better debugger
Maybe I should just be using QEMU GDB, but it doesn't have very good support for NT kernel I think

[fickle rain]

Unfortunately WinDbg does not work for this work :(

[shy axle]

[stark needle]

[molten island]

im really proud of
https://github.com/s0me1newithhand7s/reNixos/blob/master/flake.nix#L433-L604

[glass jetty]

1k lines

and not only that, but also no comments

[molten island]

yeah, im not commenting my code

almost not commenting

[glass jetty]

meanwhile my code

[molten island]

it's actually really compact

[glass jetty]

consistent of one code line per two comment lines

[molten island]

[glass jetty]

at least use sub moduling

[young plover]

[glass jetty]

#programming message
he proud of it
#programming message

[molten island]

i can go deeper into rabbit hole of flake-pats and make every output as flakeModule

[glass jetty]

add 🦊 into your nickname

[molten island]

nyo

[glass jetty]

nya

[stark needle]

nrrrrr

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

[real quail]

Yo guys

I have a very interesting opinion

Programmers use different softwares to copy other programs (for a 'clean' remake) without facing any copyright strikes

Like copying a program in C++ to Rust

[olive sable]

as long as you dont directly copy the code its legal ye

[tender river]

[olive sable]

[tender river]

the interface can be copied

the rest

must not be derived from the old source code

it can use same ideas

it's like if you make a mario fangame nintendo will sue you even if you didnt copy their sprites and code

but there are loopholes for code

[rigid snow]

reversing is legal though i'm pretty sure if you don't look at the assembly

[tender river]

clean room engineering

[rigid snow]

by us law that is

[tender river]

ye "dont look at the code and you're allowed to rewrite it from scratch", pretty much

[olive sable]

with mario its cuz the ip is copyrighted.
like, you cant use the name google when making your own browser

[tender river]

copyright is a form of ip

there are

copyright

[olive sable]

ye

[tender river]

patents

trademarks

and other stuff

mario the character is protected by copyright even ignoring trademarks

[olive sable]

as long as you don copy code and dont use copyrighted assets or names, it should be fine

[tender river]

it's still questionable

but it would typically be ignored ye

NOT legal

but

you might not get caught

[olive sable]

i dont think its illegal???\

[rigid snow]

a reverse engineered engine source without the asset bundles should be fine

[opaque wharf]

Meanwhile bambulab is trying to make it so software license is not a form of contract. Imagine that

[tender river]

if you make a mario fangame but rename the character to something else, and the character being mario (ignoring the name) was a non-negligible part of your creative process

it actually is illegal

[olive sable]

what if you make the character also have a different design?

[tender river]

really it comes down to
were parts of the original creative work present in the new one in any form

tricky part is

what is "creative work" and what isn't

or rather

[olive sable]

i mean, how far can you really take that?

[tender river]

what is "artistic expression" and what isn't

[tender river]

tetris company sued tetris clones that didn't mention tetris in any way for copying tetris's "look and feel"

[olive sable]

minecraft cant sue you for using voxels, but everyone knows hytale is based on minecraft

[tender river]

copyright protects artistic expression
patents protect ideas

[stark needle]

Trademark protects names

[opaque wharf]

Ohh, I lied. It was vizio

[olive sable]

the tv brand?

[opaque wharf]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/05/inside-the-fight-to-force-vizio-to-share-linux-based-source-code-for-its-tvs-os/

[opaque wharf]

Yes

Vizio also argued that GPL is a software license, not a contract, so the company has no contractual obligation to provide SFC with Vizio OS’s source code, even if SFC were considered a third-party beneficiary of GPLv2 LGPLv2.

[tender river]

voxels are an idea, not an artistic expression
you can patent them (as long as your idea was actually new), but not copyright them

[opaque wharf]

If this fly, things will get... interesting to say the least

Also my company just straight up doesn't want to deal with license BS and I decided to make my company stack AGPLv3 from the start

[tender river]

[opaque wharf]

As in, a company that I own

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/coelho-bunny-cute-bow-ribbon-gif-12969923437908252017

bobobobo

[tender river]

ball of fluff

[sage crag]

tea

[tender river]

[real quail]

Yawn

I'm pretty sure Evil Neuro shared the same source code as Neurosama

[tender river]

brain jam

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bnuuy-steals-your-bunny-steals-your-bnuuy-gif-26209043

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/kobayashi-dragon-maid-kanna-kobayashi-anime-cute-gif-24018128

nom

[fickle rain]

OK after a lot of looking and some slopping it's more or less stable

It likes to crash during nullptr deref #PF but what can you do?

Oh it's 11AM

Wonderful

[gentle haven]

So like a game development Scholarship or a computer science scholarship (I forgot what was it was called so I just say “scholarship”) Which is truly better?

[shy axle]

gets annoyed at constantly having to use remote hosting since im broke
Tries to make a new form of ML based off human brain
Sort of works?
Remove the helper and then it flops
Mess around with trying to get it not to uniformly route
Realise that it has no learning signal
Mess around with it more
Realise its fundimetnally flawed
sad

Try again with a different approach?

[stark needle]

Just finetune a Lra

[shy axle]

I would… but running it itself takes ~40 sec for prefill

And my laptop is praying for the mercy of the power off button

[stark needle]

What specs

[stark needle]

??? What model bruh

[shy axle]

i5 1335U 13th gen

[shy axle]

Llama 3.1 8b + Lora I trained

No gpu :/

[stark needle]

Google colab

[shy axle]

I tried but web hosting gets kinda annoying

As in I can’t keel running on background for as much time as I want

*keep

[stark needle]

Rip

Uh

Kaggle?

Has 2 T4 u can do ddp

[shy axle]

That’s what I was using

But I ran out of time and have to wait

[olive sable]

Depends on what you want to do

"Game dev scholarship" there are like 6 different types

[haughty lodge]

96x64 pixel art of Evil on the TV in the opening of BOOM MV on an ESP8266 running a 0.98" display. Sorry for the quality, it's really smol and hard to tell the plasma globe is animated. Still a work in progress.

[real quail]

WTF

WTF

WTF

GIVING MY AI ACCESS TO GIFS WAS A BAD IDEA

https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTM5NTYwODEyYW96YnhsdHlxN29ia3k3ZHF5cHY4dWtjZXU3b2ZjbncxYXptZmlsZCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/Cm4ZDVRSsr7pHbNmKM/giphy.gif

(What happens when you don't put filters)

[olive sable]

[robust wind]

awwwwwwwwww that's adorable

[real quail]

DId yall ever wonder if Evil is just a LORA on Neuro

That was trained on 'wilder stuff'

[robust wind]

i need to try that once i get my hands on more oleds, I tried monochrome video playback on the 128x64 all blue OLED I have and it's not really that clear

though ffmpeg dithering is amazing

[shy axle]

holy jumpscare

[real quail]

REAL LMAO

[tardy ferry]

Can i send Ananta Leak?

oh i cant

[trim valve]

chat I got a pro tip

don't solder is shorts

[olive sable]

Don't solder in shorts?

[trim valve]

my soldering iron has a disagreement and launched hot solder at my leg

[olive sable]

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

Sounds painful

[trim valve]

a little

it was fine but annoying

I have a tiny mark

[rough bloom]

at least it's just that

[sick owl]

Okay fair play OpenAI

https://openai.com/index/model-disproves-discrete-geometry-conjecture/

I'll give you this one