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umbral wigeon
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And I want to show you guys that please dont vibe code

stark needle
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Advice of the millenium

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Don't vibe code✅ neuroPogHD

umbral wigeon
rough bloom
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-# (my wallet and sanity will)

umbral wigeon
jagged turtle
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nintendo and DMCA, name a better duo

umbral wigeon
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2000000~ tokens used

jagged turtle
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also to whoever said their manager doesn't know github, I really hope that manager isn't your manager soon

obsidian mantle
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We arent really IT

jagged turtle
umbral wigeon
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I think manager will not understand my PR about Motor6D, SoA, AoSoA, parallel luau, load balancing robin-round cycling, queueEvent, Serial/Parallel supports
(This is summary of my PR)

obsidian mantle
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Somewhat between normal engineering and IT
All our projects are one-guy only

obsidian mantle
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The most programming i did in my life is derived from this server

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Chess tournament and skyrim integration thats it

jagged turtle
obsidian mantle
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What i do at my job is trash compared to this

jagged turtle
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what do you do at your job then

umbral wigeon
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Me scripting legos for 3 years

obsidian mantle
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They give you a programmable controller that is currently in meta (in meta means its not banned yet and its cheap enough)

umbral wigeon
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I love lua

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I wanna kiss lua

jagged turtle
obsidian mantle
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It has some ide for it
You make program that takes info from sensors, processes it, lays it out in registers for the server to read

jagged turtle
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and

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oh

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what is it called

obsidian mantle
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Idk like middle level

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My position is called engineer-programmer

jagged turtle
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why don't they just call you software engineer

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or just engineer

umbral wigeon
obsidian mantle
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Because sometimes i have to go to some forest and modify my program and do a lot of shit with wires

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Screwdriver work too

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Like that

jagged turtle
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oml

umbral wigeon
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1 day left and I'm about go robotic engineering cus I wanna build some cute girls to cuddleneuro7

obsidian mantle
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Currently i am waiting for the guys to let me into their computer so i can configure it so the data is shown on their screens

They are not letting us in because no licence

Licence is impossible to get rn

obsidian mantle
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Its like
Shit tier programming

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No github needed

umbral wigeon
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Wait, where do you store your code?

obsidian mantle
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I just put my version control inside of source code "version 1.2.2 - fixed bug that crashed the device"

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On my laptop and copy it sometimes on company server

obsidian mantle
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Basically we face new shit all the time
Its not about what you know
Its about how you can work with shit you dont know

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And since im an uneducated fuck who doesnt know shit about programming, it suits me

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Random ides, sometimes you need to find ancient program to configure some radio
Ride to some forest shithole for a week
Find spot where there is cell signal to find some manual for a device that wasnt declared in the project but its actually is there and you must configure it

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All kind random engineering and programming shit

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Thats why my position is called like that. Technically correct name

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Work trips are nice you get 12$ a day as a bonus (its absolutely not worth it i hate my job neuroCry )

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Advice: dont get born in eastern europe

jagged turtle
obsidian mantle
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Its enough

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Not like anybody else will read my code anyway ever

jagged turtle
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true

mighty thorn
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Rich
California
Rich

society

glad path
maiden geyser
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just be in a right place in a right time in a right mindset with a right set of competences
clearly, the homeless are just lazy for not buying a house

mighty thorn
opaque sigil
olive sable
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hi

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i was playing clone hero

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and missed the bi-weekly dramas

opaque sigil
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just another day in #baking neuroPogHD

olive sable
opaque wharf
olive sable
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okay

opaque wharf
olive sable
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you could have studied instead

mighty thorn
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$50k?

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100k?

olive sable
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the sparks aren't his iirc

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wont leak too much tho

olive sable
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i wish

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im poor rn

fast pagoda
jagged turtle
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hello omemga

olive sable
jagged turtle
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:omemga

fast pagoda
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:omemga

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i am experimenting with zig and llm training

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very exciting

jagged turtle
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nice

fast pagoda
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pytorch immediately exploded due to having an nvidia card and an amd card installed at the same time

fast pagoda
olive sable
fast pagoda
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fuck i havent played gh in so long

shy axle
civic flax
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Greetings I come here seeking help

fast pagoda
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the CPUs in my server were $35 each

olive sable
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mine are like 15 each iirc

civic flax
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Long story short, I have a veadotube avatar that i want to use in OBS but it shows black

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But even then, when I tried to use autoconfiguration wizard, it also failed

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I checked if my GPUs were up do date and they are, so I dont know what am I doing wrong

olive sable
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uh

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"veadotube"

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i see

civic flax
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its a pngtube thing

fast pagoda
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i’m getting a black/blank/pink/green screen on Windows!
that’s usually a graphics card issue. update your drivers, and DirectX also! refer to the install guide. you can also try to run the app as administrator!

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veadotube on OBS gives me a blank screen!
lots of possible issues here!

if using Game Capture on Windows, try selecting SLI/Crossfire Capture Mode (Slow)!
try switching between Game Capture, Window Capture, Spout2 Capture, Syphon Capture… see which works!
if on Windows, try forcing both OBS and veadotube to run in Performance mode, in your system graphics settings.
in general, refer to the OBS guide, which goes through each capture mode.

olive sable
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for obs there's this tutorial

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veado.tube/docs/usage/obs/

fast pagoda
olive sable
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ye that

civic flax
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thanks

fast pagoda
civic flax
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i am just tired of having to deal with GPU related issues i hope it is not the gpu

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Do you think the GPU is the primary reason why when you turn on your computer it sometimes show a glowing black screen?

fast pagoda
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if my computer does not boot immediately i usually assume it is memory training

civic flax
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Like, I see the logo and the spinning wheel after the Windows jingle, most of the time is a black screen

fast pagoda
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does it ever boot after that

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it's a black screen BEFORE the windows logo sequence?

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it may just be configured not to show uefi/bios splash

olive sable
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windows or linux?

shy axle
civic flax
olive sable
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hmm

civic flax
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I have been having this issue for like 10 months

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Maybe less

olive sable
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hmmmmm

civic flax
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I have FR this laptop 3 times and the issue persists

olive sable
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laptop miniHmm

olive sable
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you said you updated the gpu drivers right?

civic flax
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Yes

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Through device manager and Nvidia's little stupid app

shy axle
olive sable
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your laptop has an IGPU on the cpu

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so i guess update cpu drivers

civic flax
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i checked all of the stuff and is all updated

floral hawk
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Qwen3 TTS is being a bitch to setup but I got my Hungarian homegirl to let me clone her voice

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I had to run it through CUDA BC latency was hell and it was zero-shot generating voices per sentence. It's still not stable

maiden geyser
olive sable
fast pagoda
civic flax
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So no OBS

fast pagoda
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it's probably not OBS if i had to guess
never heard of veadotube but it's definitely the easier sacrifice if i had to guess

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im guessing 2x

civic flax
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Yeah

proven merlin
silent cloak
proven merlin
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It might bug out if they arent, i Personally can bypass the black screen by using a different capture method

silent cloak
proven merlin
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That one hurts, as i dislike Python, like C, but am fairly blind

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I feel attacked

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(but good one)

silent cloak
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C destroys python anyday

fast pagoda
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this is going great

amber fractal
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That pan is killing me

fast pagoda
#
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Norall thou not thou thy thou before it shave, thee lover of
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``` shakespeare himself
silent cloak
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Just random pytorch output

fast pagoda
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this is zig

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your favourite

silent cloak
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Pytorch masterpiece

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Making ur own library?

fast pagoda
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i havent replaced 99% of it like the diff implies it's just been formatted lol

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nice svelte 1928 lines

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this is the first time it has actually compiled tho'

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turns out

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lotta shit changed between .12 and .16 glueless

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std.io.getStdOut() was used a lot and has obviously been slain so i replaced with std.debug.print, std.rand is gone for std.Random very important to rename that , readVarInt died with I/o changes so std.Io.Reader lacks it completely, had to swap a bunch of var to const due local vars no longer allowed if they dont mutate, and he had a @cImport("math.h") that was not needed because Zig can in fact do math without c's help

silent cloak
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Kek

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Why gpt2

fast pagoda
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fast

silent cloak
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Aint that shit pretty dated by now

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Pretty sure its still running tensorflow

fast pagoda
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it do be tensorflow

silent cloak
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Dinosaur in machine learning years

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The great torch migration was a big deal

fast pagoda
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i just kept it because that's what it was and i figured port first and then deal w/ figuring out how nightmarish that part i s

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yeah my first loras were TF

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i miss the dashboard tbh

silent cloak
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Tbh i hated TF

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I was glad to jump to torch when i was able to

fast pagoda
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i barely remember anything about it ngl

silent cloak
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Keras and tensorflow are both relics now

fast pagoda
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it was when i first was running any training of any kind

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mostly in colab notebooks which skipped a lot of the pain probably

silent cloak
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Those and deeplearning4j were the first libraries i used

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Before that it was from scratch

fast pagoda
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<scratch language joke here>

silent cloak
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I didnt like how clunky they were until i didnt have much of a choice

fast pagoda
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as jank as it still is it is kinda wild how much MORE dogshit these frameworks were a few years ago even

amber fractal
silent cloak
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Its a billion years in the world of programming

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Those things are in a museum

fast pagoda
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i know tf and jax are still supported alongside pytorch in google cloud infra but idk what they get used for other than google's own stuff for jax

silent cloak
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I never used jax

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It was pure TF for me or TF with Keras2

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Sometimes DL4J

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Then just torch

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I used other libraries too for other use cases but alot of the times i just wrote it all myself

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I forgot what one I used for NLU though

young plover
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lmao
Nintendo never sent "the email" to me personally and I'm keeping it that way.
I'm also not convinced it'll ever be possible unless some NSA backdoor is discovered. They locked the Switch 2 down tight.

silent cloak
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Cap

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It'll happen

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Unless they come and take away the hardware or stream the console to the device

fast pagoda
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we aint converging with this one kekw

shy axle
tender river
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very annoying

fast pagoda
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it's just gpt2 124M (cpu training) on tiny shakespeare

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zig trainer

shy axle
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W

fast pagoda
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loss is throw a dart at a board

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rn

shy axle
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its diverging lol

fast pagoda
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honestly that might describe it well if it really explodes

silent cloak
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but it will still be broken with time

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as every console eventually is

fast pagoda
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what exactly is the benefit to owning a switch 2

fast pagoda
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understood. Carry on

opaque wharf
jagged turtle
amber fractal
fast pagoda
fast pagoda
fast pagoda
fast pagoda
opaque wharf
floral hawk
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So guys, qwen TTS sounds good but it spikes the hell out of my CPU and the latency is hell, what am I missing here??

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It's also literally crashing my animation controller. I'm not sure where I went wrong, but 15s of latency AND it's absolutely eating my CPU even tho it's GPU CUDA bound

amber fractal
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Small edit to a sample

olive sable
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i see a face

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face pareidolia

amber fractal
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There is no facial images in this dataset neuroPogHD

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It did this on its own

floral hawk
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Well I found out why it was eating my CPU, but the latency is still very real

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I can see online that it has 97ms to first packet so like what the actual fuck

olive sable
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girl

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catgirl

rigid snow
olive sable
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they have a scarf

rigid snow
midnight sigil
rigid snow
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that's what i saw first, how

olive sable
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i cant see it either

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only catgirls

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my mind it poisened

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i blame quack

shy axle
rigid snow
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look at this then the original maybe you'll see it

olive sable
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oh

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very faintly

rigid snow
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it's super clear to me neuroShrug

midnight sigil
rigid snow
floral hawk
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Yeah I had a similar reaction to the latency, even with streaming it was like 6s

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I shifted and I'm going for Kyutai Pocket TTS, Qwen legitimately just isnt fuckin worth

rigid snow
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streaming tokens in or streaming audio out? because i'm thinking the latter, idk if the first one is possible with this model'

floral hawk
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I was also running full on GPU but piper voice modulation (built for cpu) was running over Qwen and causing issues.

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Audio out

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For twitch its just not practical.

rigid snow
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i suppose you weren't running the gguf quant

floral hawk
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I tried both it and the FP16

rigid snow
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damn

floral hawk
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I think it was user error, or incompatibility at some point in my codebase

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Zero is built very fucking convulutedly so it's entirely possible I overlooked something somewhere but I don't think so

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Nonetheless, I don't wanna keep fw it

rigid snow
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probably not user error

floral hawk
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I mean I was even doing full GPU inference

rigid snow
floral hawk
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Yer

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Somewhere, somehow, I probably fucked something up tbh

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Or maybe not

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I trust your judgement.

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I'm gonna do Kyutai tho. 200ms latency and voice cloning is actually wild, and running fully on ram is even moreso

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Then I can just shift my vision over to GPU.

rigid snow
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en only, no training code neuroSadge

floral hawk
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Big sad, yeah

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That was my main pro for Qwen

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Zero is meant to be JP bilingual

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She initially was

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But over evolving use case it got canned. i was hopeful to bring it back

rigid snow
floral hawk
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どうしようもない

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(Nothing can be done/That's life)

maiden geyser
fast pagoda
sage crag
fast pagoda
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almost just pasted an ssh key here

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by accident

stark needle
olive sable
stark needle
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actually

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is that shit a fish or a plant

marsh coral
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or smth more ancient

floral hawk
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Pocket TTS goated

marsh coral
stark needle
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what

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this shit is predatory????

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i just know clownfish protect them and get protection back

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or osmething

manic fossil
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Everyone has to eat

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technically plants predate on stars

glass flower
olive sable
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Triangle3D

opaque wharf
sage crag
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NOT fish

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cnidarian

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related to

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jellyfish

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coral

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and hydra

glass flower
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monkaE they are hydras?

sage crag
#

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related to hydra

rigid snow
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what is this AINTNEURWAY

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vercel NAAAAAAAAAAAH

glass flower
rigid snow
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LMAO yeah why do this when rust exists

glass flower
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they renamed structs to shape... LULE there is no reason...

sage crag
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structure

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shape

rigid snow
sage crag
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morph Wow {}

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compose Wow {}

glass flower
rigid snow
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docs?

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ah

sage crag
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geom Wow {}

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"zero docs"

rigid snow
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skills are docs

sage crag
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easy search

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"zero language docs"

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"zero language ai docs"

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"zero language new ai docs"

rigid snow
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are you the agent

sage crag
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"zero language new agentic ai docs"

glass flower
sage crag
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"zero language json new agentic ai docs"

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neuroD it not come up

rigid snow
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no itd be like "zero language new docs 2025 hello world example how to print"

glass flower
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cinema wait... their filename suffix is a 0

sage crag
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thinking for 10 minute

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ugly

glass flower
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hello_world.0 is a filename ICANT

rigid snow
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ye

glass flower
sage crag
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me make language

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helloworld.yuri

glass flower
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cinema they renamed Option to choice too...

rigid snow
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fuckin choice are we deadass

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HEY

glass flower
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ehehe i found it first

sage crag
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string String

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src code

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rust without

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memory safety

rare bramble
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ICANT all the examples are like 5 lines long

sage crag
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NeurOhISee borrow checker disabled

glass flower
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i didn't think they would manage to make rust uglier... but they did it

sage crag
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[N]T waow

warped narwhal
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What is this language meant to be used for?

opaque wharf
sage crag
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better typesystem const expr than rust

rigid snow
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raises

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raise

sage crag
civic flax
sage crag
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make machine with

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only 1 gpu

rigid snow
glass flower
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idk

sage crag
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agentic json waow

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ai compiler

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0 = rust + ai

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True!

rigid snow
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rust == -ai NeurOhISee

warped narwhal
sage crag
opaque wharf
sage crag
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ye

sage crag
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0 = rust + ai
E = mc² + ai

mc² - E = rust

rigid snow
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buket

sage crag
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zero lang dot ay eye

rigid snow
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they. brorowed itr

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:badone

sage crag
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:mlnt

rigid snow
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The current native checker tracks simple lexical borrow conflicts, rejects assignment while a value is borrowed, and rejects returning references to local bindings. Borrows lower to direct address expressions; there is no borrow registry or runtime alias metadata.
well

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big word

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me mlntcandy

sage crag
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basically

jagged turtle
sage crag
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cant assign to value that has references

cant take reference to local value

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doesnt support

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lifetimes

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or

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interior mutability

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so essentially

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useless, not real borrow checker

topaz tendon
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My first triple-A gaming experience on Linux WICKED
(game doesn't launch)

sage crag
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you picked like

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the most recent major game that doesnt work

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due to

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NOT drm reason

topaz tendon
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A game's a game

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Guess dualbooting remains a necessity

tender river
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neuroPogHD can vibe coders please all switch to zerolang

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i dont want my eyes to accidentally stumble upon any of their output

sage crag
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mipmip

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vibe coders all switch to

topaz tendon
sage crag
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mojo

topaz tendon
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Tried several of the env variables to try and change it but nope

glass flower
sage crag
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me make ying language

rigid snow
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game env vars neuroPogHD

tender river
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main.🦊

sage crag
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helloworld.🦊

rigid snow
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MAKE

topaz tendon
sage crag
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🦊 allowed

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fop allowed

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fox allowed

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ying allowed

glass flower
sage crag
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huli allowed

topaz tendon
glass flower
topaz tendon
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I guess Linus isn't the only one with the Linux curse BRUH

sage crag
glass flower
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like read the comments and see what works

sage crag
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compiler will reject hushou

topaz tendon
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I've seen that thread, tried all of that

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I did my googling before complaining Sob

glass flower
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well... idk then

tender river
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lsp that registers all 2-letter acronyms as the possible extensions for the language neuroPogHD

sage crag
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AA

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AB

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AC

topaz tendon
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At least my main games do work better on Linux, so it's not all that bad. Enough to make Linux my main OS instead of Windows

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though I hoped I would only need Windows for VR

sage crag
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abandonded archive
active block
assassins creed

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cf

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cold fish

glass flower
sage crag
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wrr

topaz tendon
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Clearly, but hell if I know what is it if other people also shrug their hands trying to help me out

glass flower
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i did notice that you ran it with umu? scrajj atleast that what it says in the screenshot you sent sus you didn't pirate it right?

topaz tendon
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Nope

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dunno what umu is, saw it in the log tho

sage crag
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huhu

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xiao huli

glass flower
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buh wdym you don't know what umu is... umu shouldn't just launch with steam. its a way to launch non-steam games through a steam emulation layer iirc.
do you have it on gamepass?

sage crag
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xiao huniangnyaroPat

topaz tendon
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No, I have it on Steam, but since Steam and its launch options didn't do anything to get it to run, I've been also trying to run it via Lutris

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That's what the screenshot is from

glass flower
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tink i see...

sage crag
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wrr

glass flower
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what exactly happens when you launch it through steam? just nothing?

fast pagoda
topaz tendon
glass flower
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weird...

fast pagoda
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that game isnt even out yet

glass flower
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what gpu do you have?

topaz tendon
topaz tendon
fast pagoda
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sounds like a great recipe for not working immediately with every linux setup

glass flower
opaque wharf
fast pagoda
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probably doesnt even work with every windows setup

topaz tendon
glass flower
topaz tendon
glass flower
opaque wharf
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But then again, I do know that from experience because when I play Sun Haven, it just changes the button from Play to Stop then back to Play

topaz tendon
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Wasn't aware gamescope can solve such issues

opaque wharf
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When I use gamescope the game runs just fine

glass flower
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shrug it might. it might not... idk

fast pagoda
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isn't proprietary done

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580 being the last proprietary driver

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maybe update to the current 595

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trying to run it with an old driver wont be great prob

glass flower
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what

topaz tendon
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It is 595.something, lemme double check

glass flower
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proprietary is still alive and well...

topaz tendon
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Yeah, 595.71.05

glass flower
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they just changed how its packaged

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and moved the old ones to AUR

topaz tendon
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Yeah it's like proprietary with open kernel modules or something?

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Or the other way around

fast pagoda
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nvidia package is nvidia-open now though so if you're on just nvidia it'll be open ig

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last nvidia driver i installed was for volta so im stuck on 580 anyways idk, im probably conflating the open becoming default to proprietary ending completely

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but i dont think you need proprietary anymore unless you are on a below turing card

glass flower
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but its still the proprietary ones just named differently no? otherwise they would just be in the kernel

topaz tendon
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  Device-1: NVIDIA AD103 [GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER] vendor: Gigabyte
    driver: nvidia v: 595.71.05 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm
    non-free: 550-580.xx+ status: current (as of 2025-11) arch: Lovelace
    code: AD1xx process: TSMC n4 (5nm) built: 2022+ pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-2,DP-3 empty: DP-1,HDMI-A-1
    bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:2702 class-ID: 0300
fast pagoda
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so yea non-free the proprietary module only goes up to 580.xx

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after that it's open only

topaz tendon
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These aren't fully open though, are they?

fast pagoda
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but i dont think it functionally is any different to install like there isnt another package ig

topaz tendon
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Maybe it's more complicated and I just don't get it yet lmao

fast pagoda
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it's nvidia it's stupid

topaz tendon
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I thought nouveau is the fully open one but it has poor gaming compatibility

stark needle
fast pagoda
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driver 590, arch in the aur pkgs replaced nvidia with nvidia-open, nvidia-dkms with nvidia-open-dkms, and nvidia-lts with nvidia-lts-open

floral hawk
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Absurd

fast pagoda
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so yea anything post 580 is open

stark needle
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fast pagoda
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omg it's u

floral hawk
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It would be so cool if I could have her in here

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She has discord integration already

fast pagoda
floral hawk
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But having her in public servers besides my own is something ill prob never do

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Just not really smart.

fast pagoda
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she'd get you b& here anyways

stark needle
fast pagoda
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well

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she'd get banned prob

floral hawk
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Yeah ik

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I thought other people had their AI in here

stark needle
floral hawk
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Not really something I want to do, just curious

fast pagoda
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not generally without permission, if they dont have bot tag and are a bot it's a self bot which is TOS which isnt allowed due to community server

floral hawk
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Tru tru

stark needle
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@fast pagoda btw the dflash didnt work cause my model is fp8 quantized

fast pagoda
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F

stark needle
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i will still try mtp

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god i wanna get this 1 million context working so bad

floral hawk
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I'm working on the final polish for V1 of her runtime then it's just twitch integration and her first full release is final

stark needle
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the GDN layers use 80x less compute

floral hawk
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The minecraft brain definitely needs work tho, she's really not that smart in there

fast pagoda
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:omemga

stark needle
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i still need to figure out how to do actual dynamic thinking

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wait the dflash model was also using kv cache

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what

fast pagoda
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it involves kv tho right it just blasts hidden features into the kv

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DFlash adopts a fundamentally different strategy. We treat the fused target context feature as persistent contextual information and directly inject it into the Key and Value projections of every draft model layer. The projected features are stored in the draft model’s KV cache and reused across drafting iterations. This design provides strong and consistent conditioning throughout the draft model, enabling acceptance length to scale effectively with the number of draft layers https://arxiv.org/html/2602.06036v1

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so it'd have some sort of kv

stark needle
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holy frick

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dflash was trash

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i have 1.7M available context now

fast pagoda
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mtp?

stark needle
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ye

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1.7 acceptance

fast pagoda
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how speed

stark needle
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wait im running out of mem

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uh

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lemme lower this a bit

fast pagoda
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1.7m and a dream

jagged turtle
rigid snow
floral hawk
rigid snow
floral hawk
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Yee good times all around

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Can't wait for a stable V1, I'm so ready to not be coding 7 hours a day

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I've been putting dayjob hours into Zero for over a month now

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Alongside my full time

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And learning japanese. I'm losing my mind (and my sleep schedule)

stark needle
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supposed to be ~42t/s

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or osme shit

fast pagoda
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now let's see paul allen's Qwen3.5-397B-A17B

stark needle
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at 1M context

fast pagoda
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well then what's even the point really

shy axle
rigid snow
stark needle
shy axle
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but alr

stark needle
shy axle
glass flower
stark needle
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all at once

glass flower
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huhh i get that... but... why

stark needle
shy axle
jagged turtle
stark needle
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this was performance at 100k token prefill

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Avg prompt throughput: 10000.9 tokens/s

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i can prob optimize this tho

shy axle
stark needle
novel flare
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Hi, any tips for understanding better js dom? It is difficult for me to make a logical bridge between the element that I want it to do things and the code I'm writing. Should I think from a specific perspective?

ember hound
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PauseSama just think it as a box, u tag an elem and just throw it in, if u want to retrieve a specific one u reuse the same tag

amber portal
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hmmm

shy axle
amber portal
shy axle
amber portal
shy axle
amber portal
shy axle
amber portal
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boddy

shy axle
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cant use ur message logger

amber portal
shy axle
amber portal
shy axle
amber portal
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yeah but thats in a private server in public servers uhh

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i think its against the rules?

novel flare
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hi wlc

shy axle
shy axle
amber portal
amber portal
novel flare
shy axle
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insert more yap here

amber portal
rare bridge
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at least you're familiar with the rules already

rigid snow
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update: it works. for prompting tts emotion - insane. great. added latency for tool calls is kinda ouch but i like it nevertheless. need a description -> facial expr system next

trim valve
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neuroPogHD its so hard to tell if my pc is running slower because of matlab or if discord is just incredibly slow to use

jagged turtle
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both are not mutually exclusive

trim valve
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true

ember hound
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maybe clean some dust?

trim valve
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nah it comes and goes, so who knows

nocturne olive
#

neuroThinkSmug I have found the real reason Wayland is unusable for me
Wayland does not allow choosing what GPU applications and games run on using the convenient set of environment variables

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For whatever reason

stark needle
tender river
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average cs grad

rare bridge
# stark needle erm

none of them win, the claude instance they had secretly participating got the job

rare bridge
#

vedal docks their pay tho

unreal notch
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Anyone here

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Like a expert on html or website making?

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I got a homie here like with Alot of questions

fast pagoda
nocturne olive
rigid snow
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afunyun html expert

opaque wharf
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Can confirm 100%. He is HTML expert

nocturne olive
stark needle
#

a

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fun

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yun

sage crag
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child

ember hound
opaque wharf
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@fast pagoda what benefit did you get as konii's adoptive child? enub

stark needle
civic flax
#

You think Starforge would be a great investment?

opaque wharf
jagged turtle
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why tf is my git folder taking up 26gb of storage

fast pagoda
fast pagoda
jagged turtle
civic flax
opaque wharf
trim valve
civic flax
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absolutely not, i am having way too many issues with my pc, i tried using obs and the cheapest and less stressing methods for vtubing and that did not work

jagged turtle
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oh actually it's probably also a shit ton of python wheels

opaque wharf
civic flax
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the most upsetting thing is that this laptop is brand new

trim valve
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oh wait i imagined a .git folder

civic flax
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so i am running out of options, i updated all of my graphics cards, did everything to the book, and nothing works

trim valve
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I thought you were comitting all the binary files lol

civic flax
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this just feels unfair

jagged turtle
opaque wharf
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Their after sales will only get you so far

civic flax
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this is what it see

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i keep seeing that it is a gpu issue, and since this is a laptop, it is a dead end

trim valve
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try changing the capture backend

civic flax
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how do i do that

trim valve
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in source properties

civic flax
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how do i get there

trim valve
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double click on the source named "leyend"

civic flax
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okay

trim valve
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idr the exact setting name, im not at my pc

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but you should have a dropdown between a few different capture methods

civic flax
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i did the allow transparency since it is recommended everywhere

trim valve
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scroll down a bit in those settings

civic flax
trim valve
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oh wait try window capture instead of game capture

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tl;dr delete that source and make a new one using window capture instead

civic flax
#

you mean display capture?

opaque wharf
civic flax
#

wait i found it

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it was down

trim valve
civic flax
#

alright, what would be the next step?
This is the most progress i have ever done so far

trim valve
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is that what it should be displaying?

civic flax
#

yeah

trim valve
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then just click ok

civic flax
#

what about the green screen?

trim valve
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you should be able to get rid of it with a filter

opaque wharf
midnight sigil
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color key is what you're looking for

trim valve
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open the filters for your source

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then add a colour key

civic flax
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filters...

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let me see

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BOT

opaque wharf
#

Oh nyo enub

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@rare bridge

trim valve
opaque wharf
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@fair cipher

trim valve
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you should also be able to lower similarity and smoothness as low as they go

trim valve
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kinda like this

civic flax
#

okay okay

midnight sigil
trim valve
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oh obs theme

fast pagoda
#

why am i so weak to these

opaque wharf
sage crag
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thats grandma

fast pagoda
#

an unavoidable click black hole

opaque wharf
#

Turbo granny? The urban legend?

civic flax
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Oh sweet it worked

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Im gonna puke of stress

fast pagoda
trim valve
sage crag
#

but

trim valve
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slightly surprised that you're only getting 29fps out of a max of 30

sage crag
#

whatever that is, it looks like a jaundiced ugly feraligatr

opaque wharf
civic flax
sage crag
fast pagoda
civic flax
sage crag
#

i will be mean

civic flax
#

one of the swarm members helped me on doing a 2.0 model with better colors

stark needle
sage crag
fast pagoda
civic flax
#

i owe so much to the swarm because i got a laptop from them, I think it was R who helped me, and now this

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I was so losing hope

fast pagoda
#

10 months damn

sage crag
#

ye

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lazy

stark needle
#

wtf based

opaque wharf
fast pagoda
#

sorry for your loss

stark needle
#

swarm

sage crag
civic flax
sage crag
fast pagoda
#

you were just staring in a window or

sage crag
#

adopted

fast pagoda
civic flax
#

also, i do have an important question

#

i tried using auto configuration wizard and it failed, it told me to check on my internet connection but the internet connection works fine

civic flax
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and that is why i said that it must be a gpu issue since everything is updated

civic flax
sage crag
opaque wharf
#

Needs to go to school again

trim valve
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if you click tools on the top bar it should let you rerun the wizard

sage crag
civic flax
#

that is the strange part, i updated everything, and the issue persists

sage crag
civic flax
trim valve
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I barely use it

sage crag
civic flax
#

like, do you really need it

sage crag
trim valve
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but only because I don't stream to youtube

opaque wharf
#

The wizard is not the brightest

sage crag
#

its convenient for selecting a bitrate for a streaming service

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but

trim valve
civic flax
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i see i see

sage crag
#

convenient doesnt mean good

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for example

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my phone is very convenient

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however

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it speaks only lies

civic flax
#

almost like neuro

sage crag
#

haunted

opaque wharf
sage crag
#

ye

opaque wharf
#

I am more impressed they even thought about making the site responsive in the first place enub

sage crag
stark needle
#

bro @olive sable

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new xiaoxin pad

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comes with openclaw slop

sage crag
#

pluu

civic flax
#

Also, is it fine if bits of the green screen are visible or is it normal

opaque wharf
civic flax
#

in vtubing, like, i shrinked him down and i see random green bits

trim valve
#

oops

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you can increase the sliders I told you to turn down a bit

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I forgot that rotating would happen

civic flax
#

how do i do that

trim valve
#

reopen the filters for your source

trim valve
# trim valve

drag the similarity and/or smoothness sliders to the right a tiny bit

unreal notch
unreal notch
nocturne olive
stark needle
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:omemga

sick owl
#

(@steipete)
I’m sorry that you’re this desperate that you will take such an unscientific benchmark instead of any established one.
︀︀
︀︀Also qwen local is one of the most random length models there is with all its looping. And we smoke you all on quality benchmarks on every open model. Here’s wildclawbench by internlm, same speed on open models, much better results.

**💬 48 🔁 31 ❤️ 989 👁️ 33.8K **

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Holy clapback

nocturne olive
rigid snow
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LMAOAOAOSOSOSIDIEO DHHSHSJSJSJSHSJS DJIEUXHDISJ??????!?

#

holy fucking delusion

bitter phoenix
#

Did you see his post where he spent over 1m in a month with nothing to show

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'I must code but never ship'

#

1m just in code, damn

rigid snow
#

openclaw is genuinely the worst performing piece of software i’ve had the displeasure of touching ever

bitter phoenix
rigid snow
#

open crawl

stark needle
#

Have y'all tried openclaw

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I still havent

#

In theory my gb10 Supports the Nvidia nemoclaw thing

rigid snow
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don’t

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try hermes or pi or whatever else

stark needle
#

Im just gonna write my own harness

rigid snow
#

or that

bitter phoenix
# stark needle Have y'all tried openclaw

I've played with it, I would say its most useful for automated things. Like checking the news for you or going over your stores reviews every week and emailing the important ones to you, if you don't have daily things an AI can help with it isn't worth your time to setup

trim valve
#

fucking windows

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uninstalled WiFi drivers

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and my trackpad drivers

bitter phoenix
#

I'm checking out the Aurora optimizer, on the left is Muon and its prefered batch/gradient accumulation numbers, on the right is Aurora using the same everything

trim valve
#

it's not automatically fixed stuff this time

kind nimbus
minor sail
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Is there a decent coding-optimized llm I can fit into 16GB vram? Most models I have tried are either so slow my ide runs into timeouts, or so dumb if I ask them to scan my code for todo comments they ask me where to fucking look, even though context is provided and/or get things wrong like trying to add vitest to a rust project.

sage crag
#

terraria NEW

minor sail
#

mind you, I was asking on a project using a new/customized rust react-ssr backend

stark needle
#

for llms

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as in "not converging"

bitter phoenix
stark needle
bitter phoenix
#

I'm comparing optimizers right now

stark needle
#

scaling law moment

bitter phoenix
trim valve
#

istg

bitter phoenix
#

I have a new run for Aurora. I guess it's just unstable

trim valve
#

Im gonna have this laptop on Linux by the end of the day if it keeps pulling shit like this

stark needle
#

24m parameters

bitter phoenix
#

That's wild

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I've had 100k models converge to 4

stark needle
#

ur doing sth wrong then cause

bitter phoenix
#

with heavy gradient accumulation

stark needle
#

3.5 is easy

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u can do nothing and get loss of 3.5

bitter phoenix
stark needle
#

whats ur lr scheduler

#

and LR

bitter phoenix
#

I actually didn't change that I think from whatever it was last
LEARNING_RATE = 0.0003
MIN_LR = 0.000003

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The graphing slope and angle should be the same whether its doing good or really good

stark needle
#

gemma 2 120m on 70k training examples (which is basically nothing)

minor sail
#

does anyone know if intel gpus are decent for AI interference purposes?

bitter phoenix
stark needle
#

wait lemme find the 24m

stark needle
bitter phoenix
stark needle
#

lemme find the exact params of the 24M params run

nocturne olive
sick owl
bitter phoenix
#

Oh also actually, as in this is a tiny model; for testing speed, this model has a context window of 20 LMAO

sick owl
#

I'd still say the money to VRAM ratio makes them worth it if there isn't a competitively priced AMD offering where you are

stark needle
minor sail
stark needle
#

at least do 512

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or 384

bitter phoenix
#

luck maxxing really

#

Higher context windows increase training time

sick owl
#

Which would be faster and better supported

bitter phoenix
#

I could prototype on colab but there's brand new code, instead that's for longer term tests

wispy pike
#

so, this might be a bit off topic, but I'm surprised that growpramming from schlock mercenary became not only somewhat real (via trained AI models) in a few years after the concept was introduced in the comic, but also one of the most relevant parts of the field I chose to study

sick owl
minor sail
#

oh :(

sick owl
#

NVlink is proprietary and Nvidia aint gonna encourage you to buy competitors products

#

Its a shame

stark needle
#

@bitter phoenix try this

#
{
  "_sliding_window_pattern": 6,
  "architectures": [
    "Gemma3ForCausalLM"
  ],
  "attention_bias": false,
  "attention_dropout": 0.0,
  "attn_logit_softcapping": null,
  "bos_token_id": 2,
  "cache_implementation": "hybrid",
  "eos_token_id": 1,
  "final_logit_softcapping": 30.0,
  "head_dim": 256,
  "hidden_activation": "gelu_pytorch_tanh",
  "hidden_size": 512,
  "initializer_range": 0.02,
  "intermediate_size": 3072,
  "layer_types": [
    "sliding_attention",
    "sliding_attention",
    "sliding_attention",
    "full_attention"
  ],
  "max_position_embeddings": 131072,
  "model_type": "gemma3_text",
  "num_attention_heads": 4,
  "num_hidden_layers": 4,
  "num_key_value_heads": 1,
  "pad_token_id": 0,
  "query_pre_attn_scalar": 256,
  "rms_norm_eps": 1e-06,
  "rope_local_base_freq": 10000.0,
  "rope_scaling": {
    "factor": 8.0,
    "rope_type": "linear"
  },
  "rope_theta": 1000000.0,
  "sliding_window": 512,
  "torch_dtype": "bfloat16",
  "transformers_version": "4.53.3",
  "unsloth_version": "2025.7.8",
  "use_cache": false,
  "vocab_size": 262144
}
#

24m

#

(excluding embeddings)

bitter phoenix
stark needle
bitter phoenix
stark needle
#

i see

wispy pike
#

I'll get a liquid cooling system for my PC before putting AI on my computer ngl

#

seems dumb to only use a cpu to do this stuff

bitter phoenix
sick owl
#

Claude usage limits neuroMad

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Someone needs to hurry up and surpass Anthropic already

trim valve
#

wifi back neuroPogHD

#

still no trackpad

#

laptop officially much less useful until fixed

sick owl
#

I knew they'd lifted Musks compute but the fact it couldn't hack it for training Grok is peak comedy

kind nimbus
#

meh i just went back from linux 7.0 to 6.18.31 LTS.
There seem to be some serious regressions in the i915 driver. My laptop screen just stays black and does not wake up anymore after idle on 7.0 evilSMH

fast pagoda
#

he used the rrat strat and just yeeted anything in there

fast pagoda
bitter phoenix
#

Zen is a nothingburger

kind nimbus
#

i troubleshooted every piece of hardware before i finally found out that its the shitty xe driver causing that.

nocturne olive
minor sail
#

ugh, now I'm considering a motherboard upgrade to maybe buy two arc b70s to have 64GB of vram, but that'd probably mean an upgrade from dd4 to 5 for sysram and getting the same amount as I have now would be almost as expensive as the two cards

fast pagoda
#

on pcpartpicker rn my ram alone is so absurd it's just sad

minor sail
#

;_;

bitter phoenix
fast pagoda
#

maybe ill get lucky and someone will just come take me out

#

money has no meaning and i dont even know what i actually paid because of it

#

i find myself looking at like a $4000 gpu and im like

#

hmmm

#

not great not terrible

#

and then i have to remember how stupid that is

flint dome
fast pagoda
#

i definitely paid less than 50% of what it costs now

trim valve
#

built in firefox backups are such an evil impl

#

the entire backup is stored in a html file