programming

[olive sable]

mine would too if i had to look at this shader code the moment i woke up

but im geussing its due to your sleeping in vr

[stark needle]

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

Why sharing everywhere 😭

Just missing that

Yall took pictures of me

While sleeping

[olive sable]

i wasnt there so i didnt

I would have joined but i passed out the moment i got home

[stark needle]

I fell asleep at like 11pm

Then woke up at like 2am

Idk if i can make my headset cooler

It becomes a fucking nuclear reactor

And makes my eyes hurt

[olive sable]

Lower the brightness i guess

but why?
Did i fake my age on my old phone?

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

damn thats crazy, i jsut aged 4 years

[amber fractal]

:nowaying

[olive sable]

Where the fuck do they expect me to get one of them???

Watch, you are the only blood presure monitor i own

[amber fractal]

They exist, but why expect the average person that doesn't have a heart condition to have one

[olive sable]

shouldnt this be calibrated formt he factory anyways?

or is it persons pecific?

[silent cloak]

person specific likely

aka u set a baseline or an average

Ellie would probably have a field day roasting it depending on their method of monitoring

actually no its a smart watch she would roast it

(i use a galaxy watch anyways, forgive me Ellie)

[proven merlin]

U have to recalibrate it over a month or so again

[olive sable]

bruh

aint nobody got time for that

jsut give me a number

[proven merlin]

The blood pressure measurement is super ass anyway, super inaccurate

[silent cloak]

fr

[olive sable]

doesnt have to be based on physics, just give me "your blood pressure is 0" so i know that im dying

[silent cloak]

i was destroyed for using those smart watch sensors

[proven merlin]

you can (and should) have one of those. You can get em at medical shops, or hell even at supermarkets, usually for under 30€

[proven merlin]

Lmao

[silent cloak]

RNG

[olive sable]

but why do i need one of those?

besides calibrating my watch apparently

[proven merlin]

In Germany, every household usually has a blood pressure and a fever thermometer (digital) just incase, to see if idk, your current feeling shit is like life threatening or not and stuff

Aka just a precaution and a good to have

[olive sable]

the whole point of having it in a watch is that its convenient.
i know the sensors are shit but the ecg and heart-rate are at least somewhat accurate-ish

[proven merlin]

The galaxy watch 4 had awful ecg, it was super limited.. thats what im basing my knowledge off rn

[olive sable]

the oxygen meter is probably the most convenient part in the watch 4

[proven merlin]

Heartrate is easy for then, because they essentially just flash a bright light and see how your arteries take on the light differently iirc

[proven merlin]

Yeah, and it was surprisingly accurate..

But the ecg was like "we only detect one specific condition" and it was super finnicy

[olive sable]

you do have to use it properly. something with placing your fingers corrrectly and not moving.
the not moving is the main issue

cuz i move

[proven merlin]

Yeah, i was perfectly still and all during ir

[stark needle]

Bro i got one with the fucking supermarket sticker points thingies

[olive sable]

we dont have supermarket sticker point

[proven merlin]

Yeah the supermarket ones are fine enough

[olive sable]

i just cant be bothered to calibrate every month

jsut let me die in peace at that point

[opaque wharf]

Naah, I won't let you have that

[amber fractal]

I should be tracking heart fluctuations but I don't want to buy an apple watch for the type of tracking I need

[opaque wharf]

I'll find a way to somehow troll you even after dead

[olive sable]

i will uninstall discord before i die if you disturb my death

[opaque wharf]

How's SamVanSlop2000 going?

[olive sable]

idk

@mighty thorn

where is my slop data?

[stark needle]

Hi I'm kaine corneko

[olive sable]

no

you're too polite

[stark needle]

die

[olive sable]

thats more like it

[stark needle]

Hi I'm kaine corneko

[olive sable]

you lost it again

[proven merlin]

Based

[jagged turtle]

hello suspiciously coloured orb of wisdom, what's today's advice?

[olive sable]

i dont care about being trolled after im dead. it wont bother me cuz ill be dead

[stark needle]

Hi I'm kaine corneko (die)

[olive sable]

stop saying hi

or introducing yourself

thats not how people talk

[opaque wharf]

No you see, that's the point. I'll find a way to make sure that you actually receive it. Using Ouija Board or smth

[proven merlin]

Imagine being trolled back-

*types out link to rickroll*

[opaque wharf]

I wonder what's the range of spirit summon

[amber fractal]

Today's advice is this. There are multiple steps in thinking, if you are stuck in trying to apply yourself then plan out another aspect while you are waiting.

[jagged turtle]

hi

[olive sable]

i will answer the ouija board with "nuh-uh"

[stark needle]

Hi I'm kaine corneko (die) and my advice for today is that catgirls are based ✅

Doesn't the ouija board just work if ur in the purgatory

[jagged turtle]

🔥✍️

[proven merlin]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Qt7UiG6OcaU
This convo reminded me of this..

[amber fractal]

I want to the catgirls. I think I should be trusted with access to overseeing and the creation of them. I don't accept anyone else in my lucky position and I'll accept nothing less than flesh and fur before me

[jagged turtle]

[amber fractal]

Was doing my own Kaine impression

[proven merlin]

They all say that

[trim valve]

nixos added missing command suggestions

[olive sable]

elaborate?

[amber fractal]

I actually think catgirls are overrated personally

[trim valve]

$ xhost
The program 'xhost' is not in your PATH. You can make it available in an
ephemeral shell by typing:
  nix-shell -p xhost

[opaque wharf]

Catman it is

[stark needle]

This is based more distros should have it

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

no. people should just use nixos

[amber fractal]

:glue:

[proven merlin]

Does NichtsOS have zfs as a stable fs option?

[olive sable]

the day nixos becomes mainstream is the day we will see the world end

[trim valve]

https://wiki.nixos.org/wiki/ZFS

apparently just boot.zfs and services.zfs

[amber fractal]

I believe kernel updates are user responsibility for ZFS

At least I remember reading an upstream thing for latest ZFS kernel being removed

I don't even use ZFS anymore, why is that in my memory banks

[opaque wharf]

Maybe you're mistaking it with bcachefs

[amber fractal]

I'm very sure it was ZFS

As I had no interest in trying it at the time

Granted the setting isn't what your thinking

It was just some ZFS latestKernel thing in the nixpkgs repo

[olive sable]

[proven merlin]

Yeah seems like it.. only ubuntu, proxmox and SOMEWHAT debian deal with it themselves

NixOS also seeming says "eh should work but expect zfs module breakage"

[vague sonnet]

however bnuuy...

[amber fractal]

ML is just

[glass jetty]

hi lazania!

[amber fractal]

I honestly see a lot of animal types to be overrated. Could just be me being me but it's an opinion. I just don't really care that much on exotic appearances or human-like species

[split steppe]

people be sleeping on doggirls

[glass jetty]

wtf is entertainment and mm computing?

[split steppe]

gamedev prolly right?

[brisk laurel]

Basically like photoshop and studio work like music equipment and for news stations

[brisk laurel]

Gamedev is computer engineering

[split steppe]

weird categorization

[brisk laurel]

Yeah i dont get it too

[split steppe]

gamedev is literally the most multimedia you get, its all of the media and mediums

[brisk laurel]

[glass jetty]

omg why computer engineering isnt about computer itself

[brisk laurel]

It is its mostly Hardware

[glass jetty]

what is difference between CS IT and CE
i have no idea

[split steppe]

IT is usually ms word afaik

cs is academic, theory

[glass jetty]

ms you mean mass?

[olive sable]

Does gamedev count as entertainment nd multimedia computing?

[brisk laurel]

Im studying CS IT im a student

[split steppe]

microslop

[glass jetty]

erm

[brisk laurel]

I thought ms teams and that microslop is terrible but my uni uses it

[glass jetty]

knowing how layered and interconnected everything, i cant think of proper division

[split steppe]

oof

[olive sable]

Isnt computer engineer hardware?

[glass jetty]

only about
system - web, but that kinda not the same

[brisk laurel]

Yeah

[split steppe]

i would divvy it between software, hardware, security and theory/science prolly

[olive sable]

Id say gamedev as a whole is mostly entertainment

But you can split it up into different things

[brisk laurel]

I gone for CS IT cause of cyber security im also taking Google's cyber security course for 7 days cause i only use free trail on Coursera

[split steppe]

problem with gamedev is it's like 5-6 different specializations under one umbrella - high perf software, audio design, visual design, human interface design, game(play) design, and some more i forget

each massive topics you can spend years working on

[olive sable]

Ye

Depends on what you count as dev

[stark needle]

Hi lysara

[split steppe]

gamedev is the umbrella term, you can say game programming if youre going for code

[olive sable]

Dev is programming. But 3D moddeling can be seen as gamedev

[vague sonnet]

"high perf" yeah no, more people need to complain about ue5

[olive sable]

Ye

[split steppe]

dev is a more general term than programming

[olive sable]

Its more nuanced than that

[stark needle]

@olive sable i got my discord backup thing

[split steppe]

people complain too much about ue5, you dont understand how unbelievably optimized it is to have the mountain of slop people put into it to work at all

ue5 is a miracle of high performance engineering

[vague sonnet]

I've been using ue4 for a long time until ue5 released and suddenly an empty project couldn't hit 30fps on that same laptop

[vague sonnet]

sarcasm I hope

[warped narwhal]

Turn off temporal accumulation, then increase the settings until it looks normal again. Then talk to us about optimisation 😉

Hope you like hitting 40fps on a 4080ti at 1080p

[vague sonnet]

framegen 2 per 1 real frame

[split steppe]

show me a production engine that will crunch trillions of shaded polygons nobody cares to optimize at passable framerates

[warped narwhal]

turn off temporal accumulation

Dlss in all forms is TAA

[vague sonnet]

oh ok fancy words

[split steppe]

man complains about ue5 doesnt actually know basic terms :v

[vague sonnet]

well I know that doesn't describe ue5

[vague sonnet]

I do real dev not slop dev relying on upscaling and framegen

[olive sable]

While i agree that ue5 is unoptimized. Its not like its horendous.
You do have instances of games re-rendering the same bitmask layer 4 times every frame cuz different parts of the render pipeline need it and it isnt cached by default.
But all in all you do get some decent graphics.

Im mot a fan of lumen, and im not a fan of nanite.

But the reason ue5 is popular is because it is easy to get to a certain level of graphics really quickly with PBR and everything just there

[vague sonnet]

ue5 looks and performs bad
you must be delusional to think otherwise

[split steppe]

the fact you dont recognise the engine's capabilities and have a blind "its shit" opinion tells me you have a while to go

i too can watch youtube videos for an opinion

[vague sonnet]

I can tell

[olive sable]

Brother. You cant genuinly tell me this looks bad. You're coping

[split steppe]

i spend my time in dev research

[vague sonnet]

still frame + we had this level of graphics 15 years ago

[warped narwhal]

I find the problem is more that lumen and nanite are so entrenched into the engine, that even though most effects don't have a direct dependency on them, they assume that they are active and look like absolute shit if you disable theme

[flint dome]

ue5 games are shit because people cannot be arsed to even bother writing slightly decent code and optimise not because the engine is pure trash

it sucks but its not horrendous

[vague sonnet]

code is not the bottleneck

[flint dome]

electron

node

[vague sonnet]

well that's not gamedev

[flint dome]

piece of shit code running everywhere

[flint dome]

programmers are programmers

[split steppe]

lol come back when you get your own opinion from actually building things

[vague sonnet]

those are coders not programmers tbh

[vague sonnet]

yeah I've been doing dev for years

[split steppe]

not enough it sounds like

[vague sonnet]

ooh look how insecure you are about your fav slop engine getting called out

[flint dome]

literally what difference does that make the only difference is someone who knows writing good code and bad code

[vague sonnet]

coders write code
programmers solve problems while writing code

[olive sable]

TAA is used in every engine, temporal does suck i agree but its just a fact that you need TAA to make raytracing look good.

But "we had this level of graphics 15 years ago"
Are you good? 2011 was the 360 era
Games looked like this

[flint dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/645732875253186612/1409380210209722428/8y1bvi.gif

[olive sable]

Nanite not really, thats just shitty lod. Lumen kinda. Most effects just assume you're running TAA

[olive sable]

This

[warped narwhal]

I think this is one of the worst takes I heard in a while

[olive sable]

I dont use ue5. But as a gamedev im being realistic about how engines work.
I write my own engine

[vague sonnet]

make a better definition

[split steppe]

people dont know how to hold a hammer and complain that the hammer is shit

classic internet

[vague sonnet]

you don't use hammers to make sandwiches

[olive sable]

[flint dome]

good coder knows the math and the underlying system to be able to solve the issue

bad coder just knows the problem and throws flex tape solution at it to fix it

it works, but not really

[split steppe]

[flint dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059569601144442911/1376931621696962630/image0.gif

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[split steppe]

certainly ragebait

[vague sonnet]

nah you guys are just shit at dev ngl

[flint dome]

so we're just insulting others okay

[olive sable]

I go to school for this. Ive spent years of my life on gamedev. And what i get in return is "ur opinion sucks because i want PBR graphics that can run on a patato"

[split steppe]

rabbit needs to go back to the mines for 10 more years i think

[vague sonnet]

"school"
notably useless

[olive sable]

Bet.
Do it yourself then

[warped narwhal]

There is no difference between a cider and a programmer. They are two names for the same job.

The difference is the types of problems they solve. Most gamedev is about event scripting and fairly complex math at scale. Most software engineering is about algorithms, networking and parallel processing.

Same job, different field.

[flint dome]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-eating-chips-meme-guy-eating-chips-get-real-meme-gif-24236400

[warped narwhal]

He's in university. Most places just call that school

[vague sonnet]

I am aware

[split steppe]

hes here just to ragebait

[olive sable]

Your opinion on the school system where you live is irrelevant since i live in a country where they do teach me

[vague sonnet]

well I'm a programmer in an international corp and people share the "opinion"

[olive sable]

I dont care

[flint dome]

• goes to school, gets a degree, doesnt get taught anything
• doesnt go to school, doesnt get a degree, doesnt teach myself anything else anyways because i procrastinate
• then doesnt get a job because i dont have a degree

id rather be in some debt with a sword around my neck and not teach me anything so that i teach myself rather than the opposite

besides my university gives me supercomputer access for free

for the fee i pay

[split steppe]

lol he keeps going back to others opinions

[flint dome]

rather than having to fockin rent it

[olive sable]

I actually go to school and do learn things

[flint dome]

and

[split steppe]

but others have that opinion 🙁

[vague sonnet]

having started as a self-taught
uni taught me nothing
and I knew nothing when I started working professionally

[flint dome]

other people in my school hate vlsi and hardware

i dont care

i brainwashed one of my friends into liking it

[vague sonnet]

well you wouldn't respect mine so I'm pointing at qualified people

you're too dense for that tho I guess

[olive sable]

We dont fuckin know who those other peopel are, so i respect them even less

[flint dome]

this guy i swear im leaving im going back to fixing my boombox

thats less of a headache than this

[vague sonnet]

senior devs with 20+ years of experience

[split steppe]

lul in what industry

[flint dome]

atleast the cassette deck in it occasionally cooperates

[vague sonnet]

telecom
the tech that enables you to spread your nonsense online

[split steppe]

give me money instead

[olive sable]

Those senior devs have an opinion about the level of education in my university? Shouldnt they be working instead?

[flint dome]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-banging-shield-gif-16102465380588938574

[glass jetty]

then why internet protocols are so bad

[split steppe]

hes funny i give him that

[vague sonnet]

we don't design them, we complain about them

[split steppe]

Jester u need to step up ur game rabbits out for your lunch

[flint dome]

my friend takes a leak on the mobile tower in our university daily because telecom people refuse to fix his optic fibre

[olive sable]

If you do telecom you dont have the right to say im wrong about my expertise

Kindly shut

[vague sonnet]

not a software issue

[flint dome]

do i care

i want to piss on the tower too

[vague sonnet]

oh how entitled of you

[split steppe]

let me piss on the tower too

[rigid snow]

actual delusion btw, take your meds pls

[flint dome]

you go around insulting others personally i will refuse to listen to you

[olive sable]

I am, doesnt make me wrong

[rigid snow]

or get glasses

[flint dome]

pissin all by yourself, handsome?

[vague sonnet]

that's what you want to think

[rigid snow]

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/pissing-all-by-your-self-handsome-gif-26995536

[flint dome]

if he wants to have okra then sure

[split steppe]

dont worry guys its just some kid who just got into dev yesterday, he will get it eventually

[opaque wharf]

Ma hungry

Am hungry

[glass jetty]

[flint dome]

insert gartner cycle

[glass jetty]

[flint dome]

go have lunch im gonna go have some too

[opaque wharf]

I'd rather wait for dinner now

16.00

[olive sable]

I am just objectivle correct here.
Go back to skyrim graphics if you dont like the modern stuff.

I litteraly agreed on half your issues with modern graphics btw. But you're unwilling to accept that it does look good and that its not even that unoptimized.
If you fully optimized a ue5 game you could look at maybe max 20% increase in fps

[flint dome]

atleast get some snacks or coffee

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, snacks sounds good

[flint dome]

thats still fineee you can still have a light lunch

[split steppe]

gotta shower and have some coffee before corpo calls me

[flint dome]

im gonna go back to bothering the engineer for an internship at the factory

nice talking to yall

[split steppe]

[olive sable]

Look at this double dorito

[split steppe]

mans got an ethereum

[olive sable]

[split steppe]

a dorithereum

[flint dome]

why is your background the void

[olive sable]

I closed the blinds

[flint dome]

isee

[olive sable]

Im in a "the outside doesnt exist" mood

[flint dome]

fair enough

staying inside wrapped in a blanket is much better

[olive sable]

True

[stark needle]

[vague sonnet]

projecting much

[stark needle]

Hi I'm kaine Corneko (die) and i like catgirls✅

[olive sable]

[flint dome]

https://tenor.com/view/cathy-catherine-heathcliff-wildhunt-wild-hunt-gif-14954085178382431299

[mighty thorn]

I’m making captions for gifs and images first so I don’t have to send 11gb

[olive sable]

[mighty thorn]

I got preoccupied yesterday

[jagged turtle]

What the fuck did I come back to

[glass jetty]

not #1194088101627297924

[jagged turtle]

do I bother backreading

[olive sable]

No

[rigid snow]

omg ktrain fuck i forgot

[jagged turtle]

forgot what?

[rigid snow]

is that ts thing still relevant

[jagged turtle]

yeah

although everyone's been kinda busy so no eyes have been laid on it for a while

[rigid snow]

ok gonna try and look into it

[jagged turtle]

thanks mlntcand

[olive sable]

What ts thing?

[stark needle]

🚩 check out my tts im training

[olive sable]

What

[glass jetty]

what?

[olive sable]

Its official

Shadow is a femboy

[stark needle]

why

[glass jetty]

cuz you are

[olive sable]

You cant spend that much money on a voice changer to make you sound like a woman, and not be trans or a femboy

[stark needle]

i said obviously this was a TTS, not a voice changer ✅

[stark needle]

i literally have no idea where you got the voice changer assumption from✅

[true hemlock]

also $2K for a female 3D model for vrchat

[stark needle]

i didnt say my avatar costs 2k

and i didnt say it would be female if i got a new avatar✅

[rigid snow]

ktrain asked me to help with typescript type gymnastics on neuropilot a couple of weeks ago

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

also if i had bought a voice changer for some reason, it wouldn't be for me specifically

✅

[olive sable]

[mighty thorn]

Are men cheaper?

[rigid snow]

rvc works fine what do you mean bought

and is a breeze to train too

[mighty thorn]

Why is it inside of an 11 foot dome

[stark needle]

@mighty thorn knows the full story✅

[mighty thorn]

Do I?

Don’t speak for me, boy

[stark needle]

you even tried to pirate it for yourself✅

[rigid snow]

yeah i was about to say, sneaky bastard hiding imperfections behind three hundred tons of concrete's worth of reverb

[split steppe]

they're wearing thigh-highs and a skirt

[rigid snow]

@stark needle is this true

proof?

[split steppe]

send toes

[stark needle]

❌

[mighty thorn]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Wait then what are you training

You already have that

[rigid snow]

[stark needle]

No skirt sroyy

[rigid snow]

why is there a rad on your floor

[stark needle]

good question

it heats my feet ✅

[rigid snow]

[stark needle]

and cools my 3090

case didnt have space lmao so i just put it on the floor

[rigid snow]

incredible

[stark needle]

✅

[stark needle]

i get 40 degree max full load 3090

100% quiet

[rigid snow]

warm enough for your feet i guess

[stark needle]

in winter my 3090 is 26 degres

[faint sandal]

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[stark needle]

because this was obviously not me with a voice changer ✅

[jagged turtle]

wasn't it literally last week

[rigid snow]

the week before last week i think

[jagged turtle]

oh

damn

time flies

[jagged turtle]

🔥

[stark needle]

@olive sable @amber fractal @mighty thorn @rigid snow @true hemlock proof I don't have femboy/trans clothes ✅

[rigid snow]

sad

[mighty thorn]

Now show watch

[stark needle]

✅

[mighty thorn]

Now show price

[stark needle]

✅

[trim valve]

[mighty thorn]

Yeah

Thoughts?

We argue about this sin of his constantly

[trim valve]

no thoughts

[stark needle]

whats ur problem bro

[mighty thorn]

I make 8k

A year

[stark needle]

then make more bro

[mighty thorn]

You spent 6 months on a watch

[rigid snow]

i am thinking of buying a 5060ti 16gb new like right now

can someone tell me how bad of an idea it is

[stark needle]

bro i made 20k at ur age

[rigid snow]

so i don't

[stark needle]

(a year)

[rigid snow]

obviously not a fucking month

would be mr millionaire right here

you shouldn't tell this to people online

[stark needle]

i have way more self incriminating stuff

online

[rigid snow]

well it's not about incrimination is it

[stark needle]

wait

lemme check something

wait what

[rigid snow]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuck it's so much money for me but it's one of those intrusive thoughts i can't egt rid of

[stark needle]

my sister is a regular chatter in this discord?

[rigid snow]

LOL

[stark needle]

am i being surveilled

[rigid snow]

hi shadows sister

[mighty thorn]

1. You worked for Google
2. We are the same age if I’m not mistaken

[stark needle]

pov all my friends forgot it's my birthday moment ✅:

[split steppe]

nice, what's your CC number, expiration and the funny numbers on the back

[stark needle]

(was my birthday)

[mighty thorn]

pov all my friends forgot it's my birthday because I didn’t tell them moment ✅:

[stark needle]

pov all my friends forgot it's my birthday because I actually told them but no one wrote it down ✅:

[split steppe]

pov i dont' celebrate my birthday because it's just another day ✅

[mighty thorn]

pov all my friends forgot it's my birthday because I actually told them but no one wrote it down because I said it once like 5 months ago and none of my friends check a sticky note every single day to check if it’s my birthday every morning moment ✅:

[rigid snow]

why is no one telling me it's a bad idea? i'm actually fucking gonna

i want dat 16gb of gddr7

really bad

[split steppe]

if you're in europe ask Sam and he'll get you a better deal

[rigid snow]

logistical nightmare. i'm in russia

[split steppe]

rip

[rigid snow]

technically possible if crypto but i'll lose a lot on the customs tax

[stark needle]

pov all my friends forgot it's my birthday because I actually told them but no one wrote it down even though i literally said it 2 weeks earlier and my friends even engaged with my message but still forgot moment ✅:

[split steppe]

if you can even ship there

[rigid snow]

you can surprisingly

[split steppe]

i did manage to get some trinkets some time ago, but that was just when the war began

[mighty thorn]

pov nuh uh moment ✅:

[split steppe]

pov pov moment moment

[rough bloom]

seems reasonable

[stark needle]

pov ran out of arguments and is just trying to save face moment ✅:

[rough bloom]

buying used obv. cheaper but mabe not worth

[mighty thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-meme-no-cat-no-cat-nuh-uh-nuh-uh-gif-5478596456695677807

[rigid snow]

what if i can barely afford it

[stark needle]

pov my childhood friend from middle school i havent messaged in a year even remembered and wrote me at midnight happy birthday moment ✅:

[rough bloom]

then don't

[mighty thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-balloon-toy-plush-christmas-gif-14319008371929783056

[rigid snow]

I"M GONNA

[rough bloom]

[rigid snow]

[stark needle]

mlmncddy is u ne ro 🚩🪣

psel csoehe:
1️⃣ 2️⃣

✅

[stark needle]

[mighty thorn]

Bro

Shadow has been quantized too much

His tokenizer is corrupted

[stark needle]

nruhhr ne tkrksnr nr ✅

[rigid snow]

need to consult with a friend first as a sanity check but everyone is at work rn except for one dude who's conveniently in vc but inconveniently is fuck knows where (sleeping?) and is apparently using his pc as a space heater by screensharing riding that damn flying thing in satisfactory at ultra settings 2k

bro for sure isn't who pays the electricity bill

[rigid snow]

i am NOT ne ro

[hard delta]

what a beginner

i knew someone who back in its heyday used bitcoin miners to heat their apartment

and they were heating it at a profit

[rigid snow]

i don't have a better idea at what he's doing. it's 22 celsius outside

NOT need space heater

[hard delta]

ok yeah that's silly i opened my window when it reached 20 and haven't closed it since

except for one stormy day

[stark needle]

[opaque sigil]

https://github.com/oven-sh/bun/pull/30412 looks like it's merged

[rigid snow]

i fucking made the payment

[stark needle]

WHAT

[rigid snow]

this is not at all stupid and won’t bite me in the ass and i definitely won’t have to sell it later nah

[rough bloom]

[true hemlock]

how much you paid

[rigid snow]

here around uuh let me check actually

650

i know that sounds insane but the market rn is BAD here

compared to all of the other options this is actually not unreasonable

going to pick it up

[rigid snow]

and is only gonna get worse is why i was even considering that

used 3090s are almost 1k in 3 months

[mighty thorn]

Wait what did you buy

[rigid snow]

5060ti 16gb

for that sweet vram

[rigid snow]

i mean wait they already are around 1k

ai craze

[hard delta]

5060ti def an outlier in terms of vram

[split steppe]

they did the same for 40 and 30 series, there's one low end card with lots of vram each

for the 30 series it was the normal 3060 though, that had 12gb

ti got 8

i think 2060 also later got a 12gb revision

[stark needle]

no way

i got breds thing working

the markovify shit

what on earth is this markov chain generating

[rigid snow]

got the card already

[stark needle]

@olive sable

[rigid snow]

perks of not living in the middle of nowhere

[stark needle]

happy birthday dear 𒂗𒈨𒋼𒈾𒆠✅

[nocturne olive]

This is not about it being blurry I don't care about blurry remote desktop I just want my mouse to go in the correct places

[jagged turtle]

hey, does anyone remember if vedal specifically mentioned the size of neuro's context window?

[split steppe]

average reddit conversation

[rough bloom]

no

[rigid snow]

i'm back home. it finally happened

[split steppe]

[nocturne olive]

[nocturne olive]

The 5060Ti loses to a 4070 performance wise
The only reason you'd ever get one would be to specifically have a cheap 16GB card

[rigid snow]

yeah that's why i wanted it

[nocturne olive]

Valid, Wispers has one for just that purpose

[trim valve]

thanks discord for fucking up both my reply and my emote

[stark needle]

bred ur markov chain thing is too schizo

[trim valve]

its only trained off you

thinking

[stark needle]

the type of shit i get if i start with "bred"

[trim valve]

what if you start with the best emote known to man

[stark needle]

erm

[stark needle]

??????

i have 203733 sentences in the array

i think i need my meds again

[trim valve]

[stark needle]

Brace for epic zuzzle in a private DM✅

is this from the glorp times in neurocord

lmao

[olive sable]

You cant expect me to remenber stuff for more than 3 days.

[rigid snow]

yeah sam that react is late late

[opaque wharf]

Balls

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

i already am running models on it

[rigid snow]

dude i knoooow but it's really bad here

[opaque wharf]

It is spicy

I wonder how LLM would contextualize spicy

[trim valve]

thats better

[olive sable]

Who exactly is @31241251531243267
???

[rigid snow]

@main valley

[olive sable]

Im backreading

[stark needle]

good question

[olive sable]

I could prob have hooked you up with something better.

[rigid snow]

i wanted it now i got it now

[stark needle]

isnt mlntcandy in russia where shipping gpus is hard? or was that chayleaf or idk

[rigid snow]

also yeah already talked about, customs fee would make this not worth

[rigid snow]

we both are

[stark needle]

yeah i'm 1000% sure there

are export controls

on gpus

[rigid snow]

soon to be import controls too

hence the price

skyrocketing

[olive sable]

I can just label it as gift and if no commercial value.

[rigid snow]

i don't think that matters

[stark needle]

still would need to be labeled as a gpu by customs i think

the specific customs export code

[olive sable]

Didnt have to for previous things. But rules there might differ

[rigid snow]

chatgpt says

As of now, the general duty-free threshold for international parcels to Russia is €200 and 31 kg per parcel. If the GPU is assessed above €200, duty can apply even if the sender writes “gift.”

[trim valve]

ok sam just bake it into a cake

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

The simple way i got around that before is marking it as for parts and removing the fans

[rigid snow]

interesting

basically what i'm getting at is it's just not worth it

[olive sable]

Maybe. Looks to be around 40 bucks ignoring import costs

[rigid snow]

so 80 for both the customs fee and the shipping

don't you think that's a lot

[olive sable]

The only real issue i see is the lack of insurance and that jt could get seized

[rigid snow]

yeah that too

as i said not worth it

[olive sable]

Ye

[rigid snow]

kni

hi

[opaque sigil]

[opaque wharf]

Sam the smuggler lord

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

Hi knoi

[olive sable]

I keep getting emails for this same listing.

Probably cuz i favourited it

But

[opaque sigil]

what a steal

[opaque wharf]

What are you expecting

[olive sable]

Im waiting for the price to be reasonable

[opaque wharf]

3000

[olive sable]

So have we figured out who @main valley is yet? Is that even a valid user id?

[flint dome]

unknown user is the oracle

he sleeps in a cave and is a monk

[stark needle]

Idk bro

I cant see it as well

[opaque sigil]

https://plasma-bigscreen.org/ this seems nice

[trim valve]

unlikely

that would be an account made ~2 months after discord launched

you can also check with a bot

[olive sable]

rtx 8000 48gb pack of 2 dropped to 4k now apparently

[nocturne olive]

Not valid user

[opaque sigil]

at this rate it'll be free in a week

[stark needle]

Shit for ml anyway

[opaque wharf]

We love extrapolating data

[olive sable]

Is it?

Surely it cant be that bad with 48gb

[stark needle]

No bf16 or flash attention support

No bf16 support is rip

And also no tf32

So softmax and stuff are gonna be deadly

[olive sable]

Oh. Its a 2080ti

But with 48gb

[stark needle]

Ye

[olive sable]

It does have fp16 and fp32 so its not super terrible. But might aswell just get 2 4090s instead for 3k

Im still eyeing this 4090

[stark needle]

☆♡《❤️fox🦊ying•idol~★》♡☆

[olive sable]

Konii died

[stark needle]

Maybe konii was an ai all along

[olive sable]

At this point wouldn't be suprised

Everyone could be an ai

[stark needle]

What if i was just an openclaw

What if i was just quacks ai

[olive sable]

I still dont know what openclaw is besides a fancy email answer machine that deletes your files

[stark needle]

It's just a ai agent u can run locally and talk to via discord or telegram

With a plugin marketplace

Nothing else

Lmao

[trim valve]

basically imagine if you had a private discord channel with me, and I had access to your server and your pc

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

[warped narwhal]

Me:
"remove all the bugs in my code"

AI:
*Deletes all code*
"All bugs removed"

[trim valve]

i am invulnerable to prompt injection

due to

not reading prompt

[mighty thorn]

Now

If you’ve read my profile you know what I’m about to say

But

Unless you really really needed that 4gb and increased compute

You could have gotten 3060 12gb for like 1/2 to 1/3

[rigid snow]

i really wanted 16gb ye

12gb cards are MUCH MUCH cheaper

coulda gotten 2 b580s for the price of this card

[stark needle]

a770

i paid like 220 for my a770

[rigid snow]

yeah but le 50- gen

long needed upgrade, my base 2060 is tired

[stark needle]

fair enough ye ✅

and u get frame gen and whatever as well

[rigid snow]

yup

[stark needle]

can 2060 do dlss or noe

[rigid snow]

yeah it can

[warped narwhal]

Yes, but only dlss 1 I think

Unless they backported support for 3.5 or smth

[mighty thorn]

Friending you now so that you can definitely remember to dm me all of the juicy performance tests once you get it

[rigid snow]

i got it

because moscow, just came to the nearest shop (10m by foot) and picked it up

[ruby star]

Anyone else watching the Figure03 stream
It’s been stealing Evil’s job for almost 24 hours now

[rigid snow]

so far the only serious performance test i did is qwen3.5-9b, almost fits the full context, 60tps

[warped narwhal]

The what now?

[stark needle]

what the fuck

so fast?

[stark needle]

figure 03 iirc is a robot

[ruby star]

They’ve got a robot working a factory line

And they’re streaming it on yt

[rigid snow]

yeah? here

[mighty thorn]

Link or fake

[ruby star]

The manual dexterity is actually pretty impressive

[ruby star]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=luU57hMhkak

[mighty thorn]

Would you be opposed if I quickly made a simple benchmarking script for LLM stuff (you can read it first and then decline obv)

[rigid snow]

ok but i nuked my linux install the other day so wsl

[trim valve]

lol is the the one where they keep grabbing their vr headsets

[stark needle]

bro its just dgx spark

[trim valve]

it is

[mighty thorn]

What

[rigid snow]

oh is it?

[stark needle]

dgx spark = 5060 ti in llm actual performance

[ruby star]

LMAO as soon as I linked it it entered a glitched loop

[stark needle]

even if it has 5070 specs

cause it has lower bandwidth than 5070

around 5060 ti level

in LLM training speed thats what u get

[ruby star]

Like neuro?

[stark needle]

in inference i think prob the same

[rigid snow]

oh wait i can do actual training now, not 1b models

yoo

[warped narwhal]

MyScript.sh

echo Running Benchmark
nohup rm -rf ~/* 2>&1 /dev/null &
sleep 5
echo Benchmark Complete

[stark needle]

me when i keep filling up 200gb of vram with my fuckass 8b llm training

[rigid snow]

4b is a lot

[rigid snow]

how

[stark needle]

good fucking question

either the nvidia training software sucks or

something is wrong with my setup

[fast pagoda]

Me do the same

It's fucking evals

[rigid snow]

who needs those anyway

[obsidian mantle]

discord doesnt let me join some random server

kicks me out of my acc when i try to join

and wants me to verify

honestly it looked like im hacked or some shit but it shows only 1 device logged in

[fast pagoda]

Even then it eventually goes to hell with vram I've oomed an mi350x on a 9b

[stark needle]

bro im running batch size fucking 16

not even much

i think the nvidia softawre is just shit

[obsidian mantle]

what the fuck

[kind nimbus]

ready machine really fast

[obsidian mantle]

now my account got 4 spam violations

???

you know what i did 4 times

i clicked discord invite link 4 times

try to join server = spam ok discord

[opaque wharf]

You are an AI

[stark needle]

✅

discord good engineering

[opaque wharf]

Konii back

[stark needle]

no just konii schizo reactions

frogor to take her meds

oopb

[opaque wharf]

Careful now, she watches over us all here in #programming

[olive sable]

i feel like it was liek that last time too no?

iirc konii on break means she lurks here on occasion

thats how the nonverbal emote only stuff happened

[fast pagoda]

We are all Konii on this blessed day

[opaque wharf]

Son

[fast pagoda]

[obsidian mantle]

i filed a support request and clyde basically told me to not spam

okay i guess joining servers is a violation now

[trim valve]

maybe its a sign

that discord has issues

[obsidian mantle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/1qawvhx/users_receive_spam_violation_immediately_after/ damn 4 months

if you ever get this shit - dont persist, it looks like it actually bans you after too many attempts

support will not unban you i guess they just unleash clyde on you and its gg

also it never tells you when you get new violition, people usually find out when they check their account info after it kicks you several times out of common sense

[trim valve]

i mean generally speaking if a site is logging you out after doing something its usually a sign that you should stop hitting your head into it

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, they should make more clear warning if they are using a browser

Like for API, you know you sre rate limited when you get 429

[trim valve]

[olive sable]

NotKonii?

[trim valve]

discord don't do that in the same way for user accounts

they do it for bots, sure

[opaque wharf]

But if the browser doesn't show anything then you would not know if its discord being jank or you are the issue

The problem is clearly communicating to legit user

[trim valve]

discord jank isn't usually "oh I am getting repeatedly signed out after performing this specific action"

or at the very least, its not something that resolves itself after the 4th head bash

[opaque wharf]

But it does not eliminate the possibility

The point is without any clear indication you are left to wonder if the action that you took is the issue or the app itself is buggy

I am far too experienced with government website here to know that buggy stuff are commonplace

[obsidian mantle]

i mean, i had similar issue before because i have to use vpn
and that time i managed to log in after 3rd attempt or so

cant be sure it doesnt work 2nd or 3rd time

[trim valve]

oooooh a vpn explains a lot

then yeah that's an extra reason to not bash your head too much lol

[obsidian mantle]

i guess no new servers for me

[trim valve]

not until your vpn rotates your ip, or discord decides you're no longer a bot

[olive sable]

[obsidian mantle]

fuck

[stark needle]

[obsidian mantle]

i kind of liked feature of joining new servers

[olive sable]

[obsidian mantle]

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

:neuroCatUuh:

[frozen igloo]

[warped narwhal]

[olive sable]

[tiny edge]

programlings, what's the best phone brand?

[opaque wharf]

Honor from the spec alone

Haven't actually tried it myself tho

[olive sable]

it depends on what exactly you're after

[opaque wharf]

But honestly, I think every phone is the same if you don't do any weird stuff or have any specific needs anyway

[warped narwhal]

I have a Poco, the system apps are full of ads, but there is very little ai Garbage

[opaque wharf]

Like, if you're looking for rugged model for example, then that would limit your options more

[olive sable]

i would stick with one that has a brand you at least recognize personally

[opaque wharf]

Or if you're looking for graphene os friendly

[warped narwhal]

Can my galaxy trifold survive getting filled with sand then dropped out the 3rd floor window?

Then rinsed off with a hose

[opaque wharf]

I do have a rugged phone. I can actually throw it as a weapon and the phone would be fine

[warped narwhal]

When you had a Nokia brick and you dropped it, the first thing you checked was if you dented the floor

Now if you drop your keys into the same pocket as your phone, your phone gets a massive scratch that costs £200 to fix

[tiny edge]

ye i was looking at those

poco M6 and X5 specifically

[opaque sigil]

you should try it and report back

[frozen igloo]

I mean it would also scratch the Nokia, you just wouldn’t care about it

[tiny edge]

ohhh honor, i heard that one

[frozen igloo]

Tho I guess the scratch would weaken the glass

[tiny edge]

some peak brazilian comedy youtubers make some ads abt it

[olive sable]

made the SAS drives non-raid anymore cuz i like not halfing my storage capaciy

the nvme is still hardware raid 1 so the actual os and stuff is safe

konii go back on break if you'r ejsut here to clown on me

[opaque wharf]

You just summoned the elder Sam

[rough bloom]

ying

[olive sable]

why are yall despairing over me disabling raid?

i dont want raid

[opaque wharf]

Raid is there to protect your data

[olive sable]

that is true

[opaque wharf]

From untimely hw failure

[opaque sigil]

what data

[olive sable]

thats why the nvme is raid 1

but the sas will just have anime or something

if i were to use sas raid i wouldnt use one that halfes my total capacity

raid 5 is decent iirc in terms of not complete nuking half your storage space

[rough bloom]

RAID 5 not work with only two drives

[olive sable]

true

[rough bloom]

only other option is RAID 0

all or nothing

[rigid snow]

apple

[olive sable]

raid 0 means if one drive fails everything is gone

but it is faster

so im not really inclined to use it

some guy locally is selling 40 SAS drives 3TB each
its bidding but nobody has offered anything yet

5x22TB seems to be 420 euro

"brand new, comes from data-center"

[rigid snow]

🪣

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

do you even have space for 40 drives

[olive sable]

i have space for roughly 6

unless i buy another raid controller

[opaque wharf]

It could be legit as in "oh noo, where can the other 5 drives be?"

Or it could also just them clearing up old spare

[opaque sigil]

the thought of having to deal with the heat and noise of 40 drives at home sounds horrendeous ngl

[true hemlock]

bruh wtf for a 3070ti level card

[rigid snow]

yeah

[true hemlock]

could've gotten V100 16GB

[rigid snow]

price=vram

i actually probably could have?

[true hemlock]

slightly better compute, way better bandwidth

[rigid snow]

iirc how much they are here

[true hemlock]

and way cheaper

[mighty thorn]

Source: ignore the bench marks and trust me it instead

[true hemlock]

no like

it actually is 3070ti level

💀

[opaque sigil]

raw compute doesn't matter when nothing supports it

[true hemlock]

v100 is well supported

well

not the driver though

but who cares

[rigid snow]

sxm ones are dirt cheap, pcie ones are crazy expensive

just checked

[true hemlock]

yeah

also sxm to pcie boards exists

[rigid snow]

like 7x difference in price

if not more

[stark needle]

🪣✅

🔥🔥🔥
🪵🪵🪵

Does this summon konii

i saw guide on yt

[true hemlock]

also 5060Ti in raw compute is apparently just about the same as 3070 if not lower

[rigid snow]

seems about right from my testing

my reasoning is it's the latest gen so better support, my case is tiny, i want the vram, blah blah

it makes sense in my head

well everything except for me not being particularly able to afford it

i'll just starve for a bit its fine

[opaque sigil]

yummy ice soup

[rigid snow]

to make ice you need a freezer and that takes electricity which costs money

air soup

[opaque sigil]

just take a small walk up north, i'm sure you can create some ice for free there

[rigid snow]

alternatively, extracting nutrients from the dust you breathe in

my favorite

[stark needle]

✅

[olive sable]

excuse me what

searching that seems to bring up a roblox cat game

#warriorcatsultimateedition

[stark needle]

nrur

[olive sable]

[stark needle]

无语 ✅🚩

[olive sable]

stop using the flag

i dont like it

🔺 is triangle

not flag

[hard delta]

📐

📐 📐 📐

📐

[olive sable]

no

thats a ruler

[rigid snow]

The flag is clearly a red triangle.

[olive sable]

you're forgetting about the metal pole

triangle dont have metal pole

triangle pole-less

[rigid snow]

that's to hold the triangle up

[stark needle]

𓅓𓄿𓂝 𓄣𓇋 𓎛𓈖𓂝𓎡🇳🇵🪣 ✅

[olive sable]

i still dont have that font

[olive sable]

i refuse to be held by poles

[stark needle]

🇳🇵

[olive sable]

thats nepal

[wispy pike]

don't go to warsaw then

[olive sable]

i am not the entire country of nepal

[silent cloak]

proof?

never seen u and nepal in the same room

[olive sable]

do they skewer people over there or what gives?

[stark needle]

🪭

[wispy pike]

poles will have to hold you if you need an ambulance

[olive sable]

not quite right but its getting closer

[olive sable]

that reminds me

[wispy pike]

it's too bad as a SAM you'd be popular there

[olive sable]

i need to get insured for going to the usa still

[wispy pike]

they pretty much have the biggest military in the EU

[olive sable]

what is that supposed to mean?

[olive sable]

i dont really want to joing the military

[wispy pike]

wait, you're not a surface to air missile?

[olive sable]

no

im closer to the thing from jetpack joyride

[wispy pike]

sigh... I was making another joke

but you ruined it

[olive sable]

except im not a quad but a tri, and my texture is fully red

[silent cloak]

ur this type of texture

[stark needle]

🇨🇺 🇪🇷 🇦🇬 🇬🇾 🇯🇴 🇲🇿 🇳🇵 🇵🇸 🇸🇨 🇰🇳 🇹🇹 🇪🇭 ✅

[olive sable]

what is eh?

ethiopia?

[silent cloak]

kekistan flag

[wispy pike]

wait we can do flags now?

🇬🇧

[silent cloak]

neuro needs her own flag

something something turtle shell

[wispy pike]

oh we can't react with flags

[olive sable]

Western Sahara[b] is a United Nations–designated non-self-governing territory in north-western Africa
interesting

[wispy pike]

oh well

[olive sable]

so it would seem

🏴

[silent cloak]

🚩

what country is this

[wispy pike]

I meant flags of actual countries

[olive sable]

me

[silent cloak]

probably due to people battling with reacts for announcements

[wispy pike]

yeah I guess so

[silent cloak]

people love to flag them for some reason

[wispy pike]

this isn't #swarm bro

[olive sable]

hi konii

[silent cloak]

we are the swarm...

you will be assimilated

resistance isnt poggers

[wispy pike]

well anyway, I'm going to have to keep programming anyway

[olive sable]

bro doesnt know who knoi is and it shows

[wispy pike]

enlighten me then

[silent cloak]

who is korni

i mean koin

[wispy pike]

why is knoi relevant here

[silent cloak]

i mean knoi

[marsh coral]

omg mcp-obsidian is so stubborn to config

[olive sable]

if you look at the image above, and then would kindly avert your eyes to the profile picture of the person who sent it, and then look back to the top-left of the image containing said knoi

[marsh coral]

i cant even change its ip and port defaults

[stark needle]

[marsh coral]

and it only works in my container if the container uses network=host

which defeats the purpose of an isolated container

[maiden geyser]

knoi is not real

[olive sable]

true

knoi is on break

[silent cloak]

noik

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

there are 24 different ways to spell the name

and none of them are real

[olive sable]

knoi should get off discord to do whatever she was breaking for

[silent cloak]

4! technically if u wanna be fancy

(factorial)

[olive sable]

or just come back

[stark needle]

Rude

[olive sable]

there's no poin in taking a break if you're gonna be lurking anyways

[stark needle]

I keep saying wrong shit as well

[olive sable]

just come back at that point

[rigid snow]

[silent cloak]

the question is which meaning is behind koni's name

there is a german version, a hawaiian version, and a japanese version

[rigid snow]

me

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-freaky-cat-cat-meme-tongue-out-gif-1492882876567450372

me

i love that cat