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olive sable
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actually, im pretty sure those arent commercially for sale

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i know 16K DLPs exist, but thats research grade

split steppe
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i just want 3x 1440p 16:10 30" LCD monitors for productivity, and then my 4k 42" oled i think is perfect for games already

olive sable
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the commercial ones use 4 8K projectors to do 16K via EPPT

olive sable
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i think 16:10 is WQXGA

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so 2560x1600

split steppe
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ye

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actually not 30" i think 24"?

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or 26"

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something like that

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i forgot the size that made sense

olive sable
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iirc they come in 30 and 27

olive sable
split steppe
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3d printers make sense, you want as much res as possible

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looks like the 30" is the right one, can't find any smaller wqxga, and it seems to be the one dell i looked at

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sadly they don't manufacture that size anymore

proven merlin
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And i am once again stuck

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I cant get opnsense or whatever to give my debian vm a ip

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Dnsmasq dns and dhcp are on

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Theoretically set up aswell

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Unless i missed something

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But the debian vm just wont grab a dhcp ip.. i can set one manually then talk to the opnsense gui

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But internet is also dead

split steppe
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possibly the vps provider enforces something from outside

proven merlin
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They shouldn't be able to?

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I mean im just running a vmbr internally

split steppe
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well your vps is just someone's vm, which they integrate in the rest of their net infra

proven merlin
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The public ip to opnsense works, but the opnsense to vm net stuff ain't working

proven merlin
split steppe
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hmm perhaps

proven merlin
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Its struggling internally

split steppe
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i suggest you draw a diagram on paper

proven merlin
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The opnsense can access the net aswell

proven merlin
split steppe
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yuh

proven merlin
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The fun part is ONLY opnsense can access the net..

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My proxmox and my debian (which sit on the vmbr behind opnsense) cant

split steppe
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something you should also check is SELinux settings, it's prevented my network config from working sometimes

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then firewall and then ipconfig

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try with fixed ips as well

proven merlin
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To be fair, my proxmox uses a very uh.. interresting mac.. 02:00:00:00:00:01
But i cant see why that would cause issues

split steppe
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doubt mac matters

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it's just device identification

proven merlin
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Proxmox Firewall is disabled on all interfaces.. even enabled promiscuous mode in opnsense

split steppe
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proxmox might be controlling your whole net config also

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since it needs to bridge the vms and stuff

olive sable
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i might switch from vllm to llama.cpp.
mainly due to llama having the ability to pause the llm processes and to temporarily save the llm model in ram while the gpu gets used by something else.
idea now is to move tailscale into a docker container, have nginx as proxy to acces localhost services, and to have slurm to schedule the GPU

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i think this works

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might need to make a ramdisk to save the llm into while its paused

split steppe
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with llama.cpp you can configure specific offloading configs between disk, ram, cpu, gpu, you shouldn't need a ramdisk

olive sable
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its not about offloading

split steppe
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mmm

proven merlin
olive sable
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i want the llm to be online 24/7 if the gpu is free, but if im training osmething on the server then the llm must go

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but just killing the processes is annoying and it will take 10 min to restart

split steppe
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hmm

olive sable
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so idea is to move model weights from VRAM into RAM until the gpu is free again

nocturne olive
olive sable
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and then back into VRAM

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug Surely that's gotta be possible somehow

split steppe
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would ramdisk even do anything for that though

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you'd still need to rebuild the entire program state

olive sable
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hmmm

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reloading from ssd everytime would nuke the ssd tho after some time

split steppe
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much of the time spent is packing weights into the gpu/ram in a specific way and initializing the program

split steppe
nocturne olive
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neuroThink I mean Linux does copy the whole model from disk to RAM first before actually loading it in llama.cpp at least
So if it's in a RAMdisk you'd get the benefit of near-instant copy so reloading the model would be way faster if it was in a prepared RAMdisk

olive sable
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thats what im thinking ye

split steppe
nocturne olive
split steppe
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so if you use a MOE you don't even load 90% of it

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug In my testing of big files, when you load a big file EXT4 first loads it into RAM cache, then lets the app load it from there

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The app only gets notified of the transfer once it's completed loading to RAM cache

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neuroThink This does however lead to some stuttering sometimes while games load

olive sable
split steppe
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that's implementation dependent, there's a huge diff between a full load and mmap

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depending on what type of model you have

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i run the default mmap mode and it's a difference between 30s startup and 3+ minutes

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and massively different ram use

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no execution speed diff

olive sable
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i don't care about ram usage at all, i have 256gb so enough to spare. but fully starting vllm takes 10 min from when i enter the command until the llm starts workign in the webui

split steppe
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what size model you have? it could be doing a full load instead of mmap

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not sure what vllm defaults are

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also is it dense or moe

olive sable
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Should be 16GB with vllm just hogging the rest of the vram cuz its greedy

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gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-heretic-AWQ-4bit

split steppe
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yea that should load in like <1m

olive sable
split steppe
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my qwen3.6 35B-A3B does

olive sable
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It takes a while for me

split steppe
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granted i'm running on cpu, but i don't think gpu should be that diff

opaque sigil
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they might be JIT compiling a bunch of things during startup + capturing cuda graphs alongside warmup and whatever else they do can take a while i guess

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copying 16gb takes a second maybe

split steppe
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22G model

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maybe some cuda shit is slow

olive sable
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Iirc it does some testing or whatever and something about cuda graphs

opaque sigil
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try with --enforce-eager sam, wonder how much that helps with startup

olive sable
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Hmm

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Sure

opaque sigil
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granted serving will probably be slower

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this basically just disables cuda graphs it seems

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i don't have too much experience with cuda graphs since most things i deal with don't work with them but iirc massive graphs can take a while to compile

olive sable
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hmm

opaque sigil
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surely there's a way to have vllm log everything it's doing during initialisation and for how long FOCUS

olive sable
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i have this:

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ok maybe not 10 min, but it takes longer than id like

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roughly 5 minutes it seems

opaque sigil
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almost a minute for torch.compile NeurOhISee

mighty thorn
olive sable
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another case of x group hating users of y software for no reason

mighty thorn
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vllm is in the middle of those and is the worst of them both

olive sable
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based on what?

mighty thorn
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All of the bloat of Ollama with all of the technical difficulties of diy, talk about a lose lose

olive sable
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i dont have either tbh

frozen igloo
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So close yet so far

frozen igloo
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In my new project, I attempt to simulate the formation of a multicellular organism from a single cell. All cells share the same genome, but each must perform tasks according to its position in the growing organism. To achieve this, cells need to interact with one another and regulate their gene expression. This is what the project is dedicated t...

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I would love to see a much more thorough version of that with muscles, neurons, and soft body physics

stark needle
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Vibe coded slop design

young plover
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glue I only used google assistant to set laundry timers and I stopped doing that even

stark needle
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Oh my fucking god

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They really made

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Google ai slop copilot laptop

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Chromebook with Gemini (cloud Version) neuroPogHD

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Surely we didn't have this beforeglueless

frozen igloo
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The next step is a real-time ai generated operating system. If your computer can’t forget that you had a window open then are you really computing?

leaden crest
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I have a bit of money riding on at least one tech company anthropomorphizing alexa/siri/google assistant within the next half decade

leaden crest
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I saw that actually and im not sure honestly

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wait the design similarities to nere are actually uncanny

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now that I look closer

worthy niche
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im sorry what

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i need a side by side

leaden crest
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mmm maybe im blind idk

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yeah im blind

leaden crest
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nere if someone actually tried on the model

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instead of going for simplicity

worthy niche
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windows is already ai

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why am i productive wrong
i keep getting distracted programming when i should be getting my grades up

marsh coral
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all these big tech corpos shove AI into random things

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also gemini is mid, closed source, and has google tracking, soo

marsh coral
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i think its

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Deepin

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they have this thing called UOS AI

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deepin is a chinese linux distro

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UOS AI is basically copilot but its embedded into ur OS

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instead of being scatterred across apps

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and u can use a local model or bring ur own API key for UOS

frozen igloo
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Is it able to delete files?

marsh coral
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its defo doesnt have root/admin access

frozen igloo
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Oh good lol

marsh coral
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its mostly a chatbot/assistant

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so u can summon it to write docs or emails or a summary

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and help schedule stuff

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it has "claw mode" which is basically the mode that makes it an agent

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so it executes commands

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in the terminal

chilly drift
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Hello

frozen igloo
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Hello

olive sable
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hi

chilly drift
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i don't know what to talk about I just wanted to see late night programmer talk

chilly drift
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Oh wow

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Other side of da planet

marsh coral
chilly drift
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Ooo
Cool
I'm in the USA so

marsh coral
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west coast?

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california

chilly drift
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Hahahahah No

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Very far off actually

marsh coral
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east coast?

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or texas

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or somewhere in the rust belt

chilly drift
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Well, the opposite of West is east so

marsh coral
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i meann idrk abt american timezones

mighty thorn
chilly drift
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I'm from the deep south
But not so deep it's Texas

marsh coral
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okk

chilly drift
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I like this guessing game

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Glad my accent doesn't come through text Haha

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Some people were talking about ProxMox servers earlier. I was reading up

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Does anyone have advice for using ProxMox?

marsh coral
chilly drift
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Proxmox is an open source server management OS with a web based interface

marsh coral
chilly drift
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It's mostly used to manage VMs, LXC containers, networking
Stuff like that

chilly drift
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Lots of people here were talking about it
You can search it up if you're really interested.
It's becoming more and more popular since it's completely open source

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It's fun to play with especially since it's a quick and easy way to make isolated VMs

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Meaning you can mess around with whatever and not really worry about breaking literally everything in your network

glad path
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undertale lol

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it makes sense?????

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that genuinely makes sense though

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wym why i it default

frozen igloo
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How on earth would you go about loading an entire game onto ram? Would you need a mod? I remember in the assassins creed stream, vedal had enough ram for the whole game and i think someone suggested that

glad path
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you could load undertale into ram

frozen igloo
frozen igloo
patent shard
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that's not too surprising

frozen igloo
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That’s what I was referring to. I just thought it was funny

tight tinsel
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all this when i just use glue and a dovetail 💔

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man i stink at 3d design

rigid snow
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it looks great

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no taste

true hemlock
stark needle
amber fractal
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If you alone somehow managed to gain control of mana, the fuel of all magic in this current world. Assuming that you can regenerate mana over time, what would be your goals to do with it?

amber fractal
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I feel like making gold is a safe bet, who knows what magic system will be used. But most of them at least have that as a possibility

olive sable
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My 3D teacher is subbed to acerola

stark needle
olive sable
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Youtuber

proven merlin
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Acerola mentioned

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Peak

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"But Acerola"

proven merlin
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That would be the easiest solution

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Would also use about 2x the ram of just the game off of disk

trim valve
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thanks amd driver update

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very reassuring

hard delta
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inb4 it's an update from windows update 🤭

trim valve
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...no?

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but whatever makes you feel happy dude

jagged turtle
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did you even read what was being said in the text accompanying the image?

hard delta
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whql updates pushed by microsoft are the ones that usually do weird crap

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yes, when microsoft pushes an amd driver update it's as much an "amd driver update" as when you fetch it from the site

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i can read

jagged turtle
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I'm still very confused

trim valve
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that

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would be why my firefox is complaining about disk usage

jagged turtle
trim valve
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no idea

hard delta
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maybe that one was me too

trim valve
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neuroPogHD fixed after restarting firefox

glass jetty
fickle rain
silent cloak
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I have more RAM than storage currently

flint dome
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the amd hurt

upbeat cradle
glass jetty
glass jetty
stark needle
glass jetty
stark needle
glass jetty
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btw

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i not even remember what i post

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it just random letters

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oomg 6 7 ok

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i wonder what else i have

glass flower
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BEGGING please someone tell me the original song for the 6 7 animation meme... i can't find it

glass jetty
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omg ok
build finished with error
databasecontroller.cpp:184:20: error: use of undeclared identifier 'testingMaterialChange'
testing_call(testingMaterialChange(materials));

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right neuroErm

glass flower
stark needle
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:nrooroCarUbhh:

jagged turtle
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neuroCatUuh what was just deleted

glass flower
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BEGGING i'm still looking for the 6 7 song.. i got a earworm and i need to listen to it on loop

jagged turtle
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wtf

silent cloak
glass jetty
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i really have just random numbers and nothing else

flint dome
flint dome
silent cloak
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Sort by categories

glass flower
stark needle
glass jetty
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active

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unless some one start new ai topic

flint dome
silent cloak
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Then i got a reaction image folder

glass jetty
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may leak something at this rate

silent cloak
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And in there i got a neurosama folder

glass jetty
stark needle
stark needle
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Today in 2026 that creator would get cancelled 1000%

glass jetty
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stuff i downloaded from discord to upload in tg

flint dome
silent cloak
silent cloak
silent cloak
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Lmao

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Literally every ai model post in here

flint dome
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magnum dong

flint dome
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approved

jagged turtle
flint dome
silent cloak
silent cloak
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I cant send 99% of my memes

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Especially on this account

glass jetty
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its kinda isnt even my memes

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it just stuff i downloaded to share

silent cloak
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Good memes are a rare commodity these days

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If its from reddit i shred it

flint dome
silent cloak
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2016-2018 by the looks of it

glass jetty
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there no even vibe coders there

silent cloak
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They arent real parts of IT

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Its more of a cosplay

glass jetty
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nicest thing to see is that several (3) your abstractions each tested separately and designed for different task
fuses without ANY errors for the first time (after like 3 hours of compilation errors but anyway)

silent cloak
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Lmao

true hemlock
stark needle
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Bruh i havent upgraded to ddr5 even

glass jetty
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me too

true hemlock
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this feels more like ai slop article

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the reason i said ddr6

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is because they mentioned ddr6 everywhere

glass jetty
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lets see if it is slop

true hemlock
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"valve delayed steam machine because ddr6 shortage"

stark needle
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Supposedly ddr6 is 2027

true hemlock
stark needle
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Desktop 2028-2029

stark needle
true hemlock
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gddr6 isn't in shortage

glass jetty
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100% everywhere

stark needle
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Why dont they just make fucking GPUs with that then

true hemlock
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we already do

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amd gpus

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and nvidia going back on 3060 prod

stark needle
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Bruh is that why so much cheaper

glass jetty
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isnt there ddr7 on gpu neuroLurk

stark needle
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Gddr7 is nvidia slop

glass jetty
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ok

rigid snow
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aa

silent cloak
nocturne olive
true hemlock
silent cloak
mighty thorn
split steppe
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it's qualityslop, you just like it because it's good

kind nimbus
opaque sigil
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bzzzzzzzzzzzz

kind fable
rigid snow
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that's pyava

kind fable
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I hope they align the trailer with tabs

stark needle
kind fable
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Bruh wtf is that Jetbrains

kind nimbus
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JetBrains redeemed frog hat

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Now with extra less brains

rigid snow
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extra less

stark needle
rigid snow
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empty_nest

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Click to learn more

stark needle
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@gokr

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is this true

rough bloom
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@silent anvil

glass jetty
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free $500

floral hawk
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I'm buying a second GPU, with it I'm gonna be able to diversify. Zero will get a much more powerful model AND she'll get a seperate model entirely for gameplay + dedicated vision running on VRAM and not RAM.

floral hawk
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Its a 1080 a buddy of mine has

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All it has to handle is tool call and vision, should be fine

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I want to also possibly run OBS off of it, maybe.

nocturne olive
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neuroThink 1080 isn't supported by latest Nvidia driver
What GPU do you have right now?

floral hawk
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But I'm not sure how that would play into my display setup

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4070ti

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It's really just for rendering. . . man its out of support? Yikes

nocturne olive
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Yeah na your GPU driver won't support the 1080 probably, you'll need to downgrade

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Max driver version is driver 580

floral hawk
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Dang, I can find another one

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug Anything 2000 series and up is still supported by the latest driver

floral hawk
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What about the 3050?

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It's 6gb and will serve the purpose I need it for fine

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug The 3050 is supported by the driver
neuroConfused Also the 3050 should have 8GB, the 6GB one is a scam and you should not buy it

floral hawk
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Only reason is someone is selling one on FB marketplace for like 50$

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Im already aware of the 3050 bs

glass jetty
nocturne olive
glass jetty
kind fable
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I wonder

glass jetty
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im not

opaque wharf
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750Ti my beloved

glass jetty
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true

kind fable
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Could we train neuro to sing french ?

glass jetty
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no

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no

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no

kind fable
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But

glass jetty
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NO

kind fable
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I know she can talk french i remember one collab where she did

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So surely we can make her sing

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I swear there are beautiful french songs

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And actually it goes for all languages

opaque wharf
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La Mersailles - Neuro Sama ed

kind fable
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I wish neuro could cover nine nine luftballons

glass jetty
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no french

nocturne olive
opaque wharf
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Neuro singing god save the king

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug If we have data, we can add French to NeuroSynth's capabilities

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Cross-training

kind fable
nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug You need to record a bunch of French singing, then use the French phoneme set to label it using a tool

glass jetty
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i shouldve keep you muted

nocturne olive
kind fable
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I want Neuro to do songs in more languages cause it'd be cool

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She already does swedish

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We can do more

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug Neuro's Swedish isn't actual Swedish proper though

opaque wharf
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Carameldansen neuroHypers

nocturne olive
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It's using phoneme trickery and kinda half-sucks

kind fable
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Dota is fire

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug I'm planning to add native Finnish to NeuroSynth 2 tho

kind fable
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If even with a trickery which half sucks we can get cool stuff then with proper stuff

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug I know of exactly one UTAU that sings actual Swedish (it's peak)
The same UTAU also sings Finnish

kind fable
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Oh wait

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Making the training data is basically like making an UTAU set ?

nocturne olive
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VOICEBANK DOWNLOAD : http://www.mediafire.com/file/rxaua6n330309t6/Aino Erufu Swedish CVVC.rar

UST : Half a head
Coverart : Love
OTO : Anna Jacqueline
Song : Basshunter

I'm speechless....I still can't believe that there aren't other Swedish voicebanks out yet? This is the first one out there hagdoauygd

Okej så lyssna på mig människo...

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high brook
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I'm alreadying dying trying to get german working Sadge

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug Well here we have someone we can borrow French from purpose-built for our needs

kind fable
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Yes yes yes

high brook
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THATS THE ENTIRE POINT

nocturne olive
high brook
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THIS MAN GETS IT

kind fable
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YES

high brook
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that and ode to joy

nocturne olive
high brook
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so many good german songs

nocturne olive
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neuroThink Well if you want to get us data then go ahead and ask Wispers for the data creation instructions

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Wispers is our data specialist

high brook
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somehow

kind fable
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I go ahead

high brook
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It's mostly me being stubborn

nocturne olive
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I just put it all together and sometimes do some labeling

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And kinda lead the project I guess

kind fable
nocturne olive
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And then do some fun stuff neuroHyperYay

kind fable
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Once i enter hyperfocus mode i'm. On a task for a while

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It's called the ADHDtism power

high brook
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I'm also the guy that does tech prototyping

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug And I do tech proper

kind fable
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I should not fall into rabbit holes
But i still do and it's fine™️

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Oh ping

high brook
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RN I'm trying to test a new backbone, but got stalled by a bug the dev ddint even know existed till just 15 minutes ago

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(I reported it)

kind fable
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Don't we love finding bugs

high brook
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I've reported so many bugs to this person.

kind fable
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Find a bug : I'll report it later
3 years later : i hope someone fixed it
1 year later : i should maybe send my personal patch

nocturne olive
nocturne olive
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And implementing CUDA into a different tooling neuroTehe

high brook
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in this case someone had changed a variable name in the backend tech stack and nobody noticed

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I came up with this funny sentence though

kind fable
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But yeah send me instructions for how i can do voice in fr*nch

nocturne olive
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neuroHyperYay New slave labeler

high brook
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probably someone shatardizing variable names

kind fable
nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug What kind of voice type may you possess?

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug I was thinking like gender and accent type

kind fable
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And i'm also not deaf

nocturne olive
kind fable
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My voice is quite far from what one would want from Neuro or Evil
I'd be closer to Vedul

kind nimbus
nocturne olive
stark needle
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Surely must exist

kind fable
nocturne olive
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neuroTehe Well outside of training using phonemes as labels

kind fable
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Yay 42

proven merlin
kind nimbus
proven merlin
kind fable
opaque wharf
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VRAM disk...

urban lance
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what project do someone recommend for me to learn zig

proven merlin
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Because im me, ill say ansi c compiler

maiden geyser
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hello #baking

amber fractal
mighty thorn
stark needle
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Then move to rust

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amber fractal
stark needle
urban lance
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not to die from depression

fiery canopy
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we need

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smthin

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a taste of drama

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we need this channel poppin agian

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or sm shit

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sm1 say smthing

mighty thorn
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Easy

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People’s reactions to the Meta Raybans smart glasses with the cameras are fucking stupid

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The glasses have a recording light, phones don’t

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It’s easier to sneakily record someone with a phone than those

fiery canopy
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I think the main issue people have is removing the light

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but

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still stoopid

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almost defenitely can record with many other means

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the glasses are just easy

mighty thorn
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If your so scared about the chance of being recorded without your knowledge, bad news about the last 15-20 years of technology

fiery canopy
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this is the same reaction

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They have to anything tho

amber fractal
fiery canopy
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lmfao

amber fractal
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I want to build a AI image generator neuroPogHD

fiery canopy
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atomic strike incoming

amber fractal
mighty thorn
amber fractal
mighty thorn
kind fable
hard delta
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imagine a world where we can get infinite entertainment generated... nobody has to pay for music or tv anymore and its always a unique, different render!

fiery canopy
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I think I succeseeded in reviving chat

amber fractal
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My PFP is not AI generated clueless

fiery canopy
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time to mysteriously vanish back into the shadows

kind fable
amber fractal
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No

fiery canopy
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for abt 30 mins

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:0

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too long for me

kind fable
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No it was just in hiatus

amber fractal
fiery canopy
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ehh

kind fable
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While i'm learning how i'm gonna make neuro sama sing in french

fiery canopy
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NN too much brain damage

kind fable
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It's both more complex and simpler than i imagined

fiery canopy
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sounds abt right

kind fable
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We are not a cult right ?

amber fractal
#

Not yet

warped narwhal
mighty thorn
amber fractal
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I think AI image generators are pretty cool

hard delta
mighty thorn
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“I want this but it’s not allowed to have any consequences or aspects I dislike or else you are worse than Lucifer himself”

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Literally “make infinite entertainment, make no mistakes” prompting speak

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Dreamers were the original vibecoders Minamhm

hard delta
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yeah people expected it to be a benevolent 200iq mother running on a single potato

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plus even today their main issues are corporate, not technological

mighty thorn
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“Make an intelligent machine that knows everything and can draw but also don’t give it any information or a pencil”

hard delta
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well duh if it's so intelligent it should divine all the data from its big intelligence! isn't that what geniuses do?!

amber fractal
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What is human processing ReallyInnocent

rigid snow
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genai in art is acceptable

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but only if i like it

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this make sense?

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whatever i retreat i am arguing with myself now

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disregard

rigid snow
# rigid snow disregard

ok i can't leave this now. what i was thinking is basically it's fine if it's to a reasonable degree. if a sample a song is built on is ai generated does it matter? it still made the artist feel something. if img2img was used in making digital art does it matter? if the artist felt something and decided they intend to put that in because it resonates with them

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my point being it doesn't make it not art magically

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though where i'd draw the line is i'd say crafting a prompt isn't a creative process in itself

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more accurately it is, but the result isn't the product of it

hard delta
#

honestly this thing happened with digital art and Ctrl+Z too

worthy niche
#

yeah, if you have an ai generate the entirety of your art, that isn't your art. You didn't make it. Your thought process and soul were never a part of it

rigid snow
#

bad analogy i think, i wouldn't draw parallels with digital art as a whole

worthy niche
#

anyway back to doomscrolling

frozen igloo
#

Ctrl c, ctrl v

rigid snow
#

i feel like the common opinion rn is if i used ai generated salt on my dish it's suddenly slop and i'm not a cook

hard delta
#

free lunch slop

rigid snow
mighty thorn
# hard delta free lunch slop

Being of slop, have some opinion slop!
These are on a video covering a research paper using ai to map global farmland.
The anti-ai parroting has penetrated so deep into their minds that they are rationalizing this as a bad thing

rigid snow
frozen igloo
#

Every cool technology thing is actually terrible because “the military is gonna use it”

rigid snow
mighty thorn
# frozen igloo Everything is “dystopian” now

Dude my history teacher just docked points off my exam because I made a spelling mistake.
Think about how dystopian that is dude. The history teacher thinks he has a right to dictate how I spell words

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Dude

mighty thorn
rigid snow
#

it just as well could have been comments about the exact same thing but done manually

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the common topic isn't dogpiling ai, it's surveillance

mighty thorn
#

The issue is clearly those two scary letters that everyone needs to hate

rigid snow
#

well if it was framed as something helpful yeah you'd get less of that

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trust me i don't like the anti everything ai crowd too but here it's just not related

mighty thorn
#

Most people only hate ai now that it’s good. Making me think that, perhaps only subconsciously, it’s out of fear

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No one really cared about original ChatGPT 3.5, people got pretty mad over stable diffusion, video generators were ignored until Sora 2, etc

rigid snow
#

hating ai is valid for a handful of reasons, but people lack nuance nowadays

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sd 1.5 based checkpoints are still really good even today

hard delta
#

i'd say in some cases it's job security, and in all remaining cases it's confounding the tool with who uses it and for what

mighty thorn
#

Anti ai people are actually even better than ai companies at picking the worst possible option when presented with multiple

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  1. “Ai steals from artists”
  2. “Muh water”
    option 2 selected
#

My face when heat is used to evaporate water which is then released as steam (I am fucking horrified by the water cycle)

rigid snow
#

to be fair the water thing isn't invalid, it's an actual issue. the problem isn't that the water disappears because it doesn't, it's because it's fresh water that's used to cool shit

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and when it eventually falls down as rain it's not a guarantee it ends back up in a fresh body of water

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relevant mostly to dry regions

mighty thorn
#

I think the actual bad actors here

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Aren’t the corporations (directly)

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Or the anti ai activists

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Or the country politicians

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It’s the county mayors just approving stupid datacenter projects for money

rigid snow
#

the actual problem is that we lack bigger problems

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hantavirus boutta fix that one 🔥

mighty thorn
#

“Hey sure you can build a datacenter on that orphanage which uses 11x the power output of our entire grid, just gimme $5 first”

woven temple
#

I think AI is neat tech and yet I think it will push humanity as a whole further into a dystopia.
Billionaires getting richer while everyone else looses jobs.
In an ideal world people should be able to create art and culture because AI does the hard and tedious work. AI creating art is not empowering anyone, it is feeding lazyness and devalues emotion.

high brook
mighty thorn
#

There are legitimate uses for ai art

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Like placeholder assets

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References for making real art

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Etc

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Also some editing tasks like greenscreenless background removal

tiny edge
#

nerds of this chat, what do yall think of medal(the software)?

mighty thorn
tiny edge
mighty thorn
tiny edge
#

OBS

ivory tiger
sick owl
#

For those of you guys who were looking for a better alternative to lmstudio

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textgen webui is now a self contained desktop app shipping with ik_llama.cpp builds

leaden crest
#

seems pretty cool

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not to mention neuro related

mighty thorn
leaden crest
#

think so but dont quote me on that

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there’s no public data for this available yet but it seems legit so far

blissful geyser
#

i also have a concept idea

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you know how there's open source models of voice generations that aren't limited by tts pronounciations

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wait that's just evil neuro nevermind

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sorry brainfog

kind nimbus
blissful geyser
amber fractal
#

I'm waiting for people to realize this is not a meme and scream from the hills to get me banned for AI art promotion

opaque sigil
#

i don't really care about AI art personally as long as i'm not the one who has to implement it

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i want nothing to do with the math behind diffusion and all the other generative models

amber fractal
#

I'm just slopping the model and surely it works

#

Single CPU core you can crop the 10 images 40k times neuroPogHD

sick owl
#

A guy found an innovative new approach to cooling his DGX

sick owl
#

Didn't know thinking machines were finally making moves, thanks for the heads up

kind nimbus
sick owl
#

This logo offends my eyes

kind nimbus
#

They have some nice fans

patent shard
#

they make lights, too

sick owl
#

Bruh they removed the 80% charging limit toggle in a GNOME update and now my laptop is stuck on it if I don't want to go digging for a fix cirSlain

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Not that I planned on disabling it but still

sick owl
#

This is the big one

opaque wharf
#

Lmao, everyone but OpenAI are innovating

kind nimbus
opaque wharf
sick owl
# kind nimbus

I downloaded the wrong installer and couldn't be arsed to rebase

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It is what it is

sick owl
#

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until its out to test

kind nimbus
frozen igloo
sick owl
#

I can only imagine what a nightmare this was to engineer

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This is impressive if it holds up to scrutiny outside of benchmarking

opaque wharf
#

Maybe neuro could be improved further

sick owl
sick owl
opaque wharf
#

Because I think this is currently quite the innovation in LLM space

sick owl
#

Some more demos

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Here's the time awareness video

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And the last one

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I think the thing that really impresses me is its apparent proactivity

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I haven't seen a system behave like that before without serious prodding to do so

sick owl
#

That said even with those flaws, its still a very promising proof of concept I'd say

opaque wharf
#

The famous Neuro negative latency

leaden crest
nocturne olive
#

NeuroREEE I have an almost perfect new remote desktop setup using Sunshine and Moonlight-qt but for some stupid reason the mouse area offsets are wrong so the mouse ends up being placed at the absolute coordinates relative to the X11 display root rather than the display's coordinate space meaning on my left low down 1080p monitor I can't reach the bottom and on my 1440p monitor on the right I can only reach a bit of that monitor and most of the area maps to the 1080p screen's area
NeuroREEE NeuroREEE

leaden crest
#

vedal’s been against a total neuro rewrite (codebase doesnt count it just migrated languages) but maybe this will inspire him to make a new architecture or smth

leaden crest
#

im not saying im completely unskeptical but its not an apples to apples comparison

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even a fraction of their benchmarks seems exciting asf

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bit curious how runtime works though

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I assume it wont use the same gguf plug and play mechanism in its current state

frozen igloo
#

And some funky translations

amber fractal
#

Amazing levels of overkill

frozen igloo
#

Gen chat is the new programming

leaden crest
#

we must conquer all

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tomorrow we take nn

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then we do border wars on artist alley

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manifest destiny all the way down to bot channel

flint dome
#

you dream too small we plan on conquering other servers too

tiny edge
flint dome
#

hes not wrong the only reason i boot mine is to watch teto sit on my window

glass flower
silent cloak
#

We should have a secret programming chat for the real programming

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And this one will be for the normies and neurotic neurons

maiden geyser
#

modsssss this person is literally trying to create a secret society

frozen igloo
#

So is this just trained on their own emoji stockpile? Including ones that haven’t been released?

#

A lot of words just don’t work

opaque wharf
#

Or Neuro Samantha neuroHypers

frozen igloo
opaque wharf
frozen igloo
#

This is neural Samantha

frozen igloo
#

That’s why my phone lags

frozen igloo
frozen igloo
#

Wait it’s actually sorta close

silent cloak
frozen igloo
#

How small is this model for it to run on a phone?

frozen igloo
silent cloak
frozen igloo
#

Wait that’s actually yellowish blue what the

olive sable
#

thats just yellow and blue

frozen igloo
olive sable
#

in terms of subtractive colour mixing, "yellow-ish blue" is green

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in addativie colour mixing. yellow and blue is white

frozen igloo
#

What do you see where it mixes?

olive sable
#

green

frozen igloo
#

I see it slightly green but it mostly looks like blueish yellow somehow

olive sable
#

rgb value where it mixes is rgb(183, 213, 183)
making it slightly green

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it couldnt figure out whether it wanted to do subtractive or addative colour mixing, so it did a bit of both i guess

opaque wharf
#

It doesn't look green at all to me

olive sable
#

well

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this graphics is my job

opaque wharf
#

Well, you're bad at your job then neuroHypers

olive sable
#

well, fuck you then neuroHypers

#

im litteraly correct

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its green

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get your eyes checked

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the rgb values have spoken

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rgb(183, 213, 183)

opaque wharf
#

We have OkLCH for a reason neuroPogHD

olive sable
#

i dont give a fuck about OKLCH

#

there were enough colour spaces already, and yall added even more

opaque wharf
#

But it is the most "correct" color neuroD

olive sable
#

thats propoganda

#

the only correct way to describe colour is quantity of wavelengths

frozen igloo
#

The interface here just looks like vomit

olive sable
#

this one seems to be only subtractive mixing

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otherwise we would have yellow

opaque wharf
#

Which is also why spectral rendering is invented

olive sable
#

for rendering its even more cope. you need to render to the colourspace your monitor uses

frozen igloo
#

“Greenish reddish blueish brown”

olive sable
frozen igloo
#

There’s a tiny bit of blue down there lol

#

A marble that looks like that would be neat tho

olive sable
#
Unlike rgb() or hex (#ca0000), OKLCH is human readable.

i feel like thats just a difference in what you're used to. i can read rgb quite well, but im bad at determining a hue based on a number. but people that use HSL or OKLCH will be able to do so

#

the brain adapts and whetever

frozen igloo
#

It did fine for the first few

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This made me flinch

olive sable
#

why all this slop?

#

where does this even come from?

frozen igloo
olive sable
#

what the hell

frozen igloo
#

Apple thing

olive sable
#

samsung as one too it seems

frozen igloo
#

It works without internet and makes my phone lag and get toasty so I think it runs locally

olive sable
#

ye it does

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thats the reason only the new phones have it

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my old phone didnt have slop image editor and stuff

frozen igloo
olive sable
#

the V in HSV is quite litteraly just V = max(R, G, B)

#

im mixing shit up now enub

opaque wharf
olive sable
#

so if with RGB (255,255,255), you get V = 255
with RGB (255,0,0) you styill get V = 255

opaque wharf
olive sable
#

no, you see, that's just the second issue it fixes which to me is just common sense

opaque wharf
#

It is the main issue it solved. Non linear/non uniform color space enub

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So you can expect 10% increase of brightness in red to be perceptually the same even on blue for example

silent cloak
olive sable
#

i dont mind that partially

#

but

#

thats only applicable to front-end dev

silent cloak
#

it is kind of a pain to migrate to as some converters just suck currently

olive sable
#

you cant expect graphics programmers to start using over RGB

silent cloak
#

well yeah obviously

#

oklch mostly matters for UI accessibility

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especially for themes

silent cloak
opaque wharf
#

New nVidia 7000 series with native oklch buffer

silent cloak
olive sable
rigid snow
#

is it that heavy of a conversion

olive sable
#

every conversion is heavy

silent cloak
#

its a whole other format

#

u would be surprised how big a thorn in ur side it will be

rigid snow
#

blah blah all i'm hearing is grapfix programer big skill issue

olive sable
#

you have to do it for every pixel of the screen. at 1080p thats 2 million conversions every frame

silent cloak
#

the amount of BS i had to deal with regarding srgb conversions with past jobs

frozen igloo
rigid snow
silent cloak
olive sable
rigid snow
olive sable
silent cloak
olive sable
#

true

rigid snow
olive sable
#

you only render x object to pixels if you know it needs to go there

silent cloak
olive sable
silent cloak
#

and ill tell u now that its unsafe

rigid snow
#

NAAAH

glass jetty
olive sable
#

HSV is for the graphic designers in photoshop

#

but i eat them if they dont export to a normal png with rgb

rigid snow
#

you will get Adobe RGB (1998) and you'll like it

silent cloak
#

dont even get me started on some of the sprite formats ive received

#

i had to learn how adobe does all their color types and make my own preset color scheme so I could mass convert

#

its hard to do without screwing up the art

rigid snow
#

can we just tell everyone who uses ps to ALWAYS SET it to THIS and NEVER touch anything else

olive sable
#
const multiplyMatrices = (A, B) => {
    return [
        A[0]*B[0] + A[1]*B[1] + A[2]*B[2],
        A[3]*B[0] + A[4]*B[1] + A[5]*B[2],
        A[6]*B[0] + A[7]*B[1] + A[8]*B[2]
    ];
}

const oklch2oklab = ([l, c, h]) => [
    l,
    isNaN(h) ? 0 : c * Math.cos(h * Math.PI / 180),
    isNaN(h) ? 0 : c * Math.sin(h * Math.PI / 180)
]

const srgbLinear2rgb = rgb => rgb.map(c =>
    Math.abs(c) > 0.0031308 ?
        (c < 0 ? -1 : 1) * (1.055 * (Math.abs(c) ** (1 / 2.4)) - 0.055) :
        12.92 * c
)

const oklab2xyz = lab => {
    const LMSg = multiplyMatrices([
        1,  0.3963377773761749,  0.2158037573099136,
        1, -0.1055613458156586, -0.0638541728258133,
        1, -0.0894841775298119, -1.2914855480194092,
    ], lab)
    const LMS = LMSg.map(val => val ** 3)
    return multiplyMatrices([
         1.2268798758459243, -0.5578149944602171,  0.2813910456659647,
        -0.0405757452148008,  1.1122868032803170, -0.0717110580655164,
        -0.0763729366746601, -0.4214933324022432,  1.5869240198367816
    ], LMS)
}
const xyz2rgbLinear = xyz => {
    return multiplyMatrices([
        3.2409699419045226,  -1.537383177570094,   -0.4986107602930034,
       -0.9692436362808796,   1.8759675015077202,   0.04155505740717559,
        0.05563007969699366, -0.20397695888897652,  1.0569715142428786
    ], xyz)
}

const oklch2rgb = lch => 
    srgbLinear2rgb(xyz2rgbLinear(oklab2xyz(oklch2oklab(lch))))

this seems to be how you convert from oklch to rgb. hmm

rigid snow
#

HOLY FUCK

glass jetty
rigid snow
olive sable
olive sable
olive sable
#

i didnt name it

rigid snow
#

also that's js

#

my favorite shader lang

olive sable
#

lemme see if i can simplify it further actually. cuz you can just simplify predefined matmul into one matrix

#

and in glsl you dont need a matmul function, cuz its built in

rigid snow
#

well yeah but still it's 3 matmuls

olive sable
#

ill have to open vscode for this, simplifying it in discord isnt going well

kind nimbus
# nocturne olive <a:NeuroREEE:1238402106189287454> I have an almost perfect new remote desktop se...

had some similar issues with sunshine a while ago where resolutions looked awful when connecting from a machine with lower display resolution.

my solution was to write two bash scripts, one would turn off the connected monitor once moonlight connects and the other script would restore the monitor state again once moonlight disconnects. then i had no issues anymore with blurry resolution on devices with lower resolution screens.

silent cloak
#

everyone has a different version for some reason

opaque wharf
olive sable
#

pen and paper sucks for this ngl

#
const mat3 Matlab2LMSg = mat3
(
    1,  0.3963377773761749,  0.2158037573099136,
    1, -0.1055613458156586, -0.0638541728258133,
    1, -0.0894841775298119, -1.2914855480194092,
);
const mat3 MatLMS2xyz = mat3
(
     1.2268798758459243, -0.5578149944602171,  0.2813910456659647,
    -0.0405757452148008,  1.1122868032803170, -0.0717110580655164,
    -0.0763729366746601, -0.4214933324022432,  1.5869240198367816
);
const mat3 Matxyz2rgbLinear = mat3
(
     3.2409699419045226,  -1.537383177570094,   -0.4986107602930034,
    -0.9692436362808796,   1.8759675015077202,   0.04155505740717559,
     0.05563007969699366, -0.20397695888897652,  1.0569715142428786
);

vec3 oklch2oklab(vec3 lch)
{
    float a = isinf(lch.z) ? 0.0 : lch.y * cos(radians(lch.z));
    float b = isinf(lch.z) ? 0.0 : lch.y * sin(radians(lch.z));
    return vec3(lch.x, a, b);
}
vec3 oklab2xyz(vec3 oklab)
{
    vec3 LMSg = Matlab2LMSg * oklab;
    vec3 LMS = pow(LMSg, vec3(3.0));
    vec3 xyz = MatLMS2xyz * LMS;
    return xyz;
}
vec3 xyz2rgbLinear(vec3 xyz)
{
    rgbLinear = Matxyz2rgbLinear * xyz;
    return rgbLinear;
}
vec3 rgbLinear2rgb(vec3 rgbLinear)
{
    vec3 b = step(vec3(0.0031308), abs(rgbLinear));
    vec3 linearPart = 12.92 * c;
    vec3 nonlinearPart = sign(c) * (1.055 * pow(abs(c), vec3(1.0 / 2.4)) - 0.055);
    vec3 rgb = mix(linearPart, nonlinearPart, b);
    return rgb;
}

void main()
{
    // lch goes here wrrr
    vec3 lch = vec3(0.0, 0.0, 0.0); 

    vec3 oklab = oklch2oklab(lch);
    vec3 xyz = oklab2xyz(oklab);
    vec3 srgbLinear = xyz2rgbLinear(xyz);
    vec3 rgb = rgbLinear2rgb(srgbLinear);

    gl_FragColor = vec4(rgb, 1.0);
}
#

now lets see if i can simplify this

#

this is just that js in glsl

#

i made a couple mistakes looking back at this code

silent cloak
#

is there unit testing for shaders even?

olive sable
#

if there is i never used it

#

but i dont do unit tests in general so

silent cloak
olive sable
#

im in college still enub

silent cloak
#

knew it

#

get ready to be made to do unit tests in jobs for dumb shit

olive sable
#

i go of the principle, if it broke i can see it broke cuz its breaking in full 1440p on my screen

silent cloak
#

gets more complicated in larger codebases when u have tons of different people working on different parts

olive sable
#

makes sense

silent cloak
#

thats when u make comments // wtf is this and why does it break blah blah blah????

#

or u get ones that is just the developer feeling shame for having to use a hack workaround

#

"// horrible no good very bad hack"

olive sable
#

for our group project in game design. im the only one that there that has coded for more than 6 months. and im also experienced in optimization and stuff.

so im looking at the code from the others with a tired_jace

silent cloak
#

thats why documentation is important for internal use

#

and unit testing is just a form of safe guard

#

it ensures someone else doesnt break ur code

olive sable
#

it snot liek their code is hard to read. its C# and they use decent naming ocnventions

silent cloak
#

C# is one of the easiest languages to read tbh

olive sable
#

but i sometimes wonder if its neccesary to loop through every object to see if we hit the finish

#

answer is no btw, changed that to a OnCollision() on the finishline object's code

silent cloak
#

kek

#

Unity my beloved

olive sable
#

i dont like unity ngl

silent cloak
#

its infinitely better than unreal

#

but naturally wont be as good as a game or engine from scratch

olive sable
#

i tried to open my unity project from my linux desktop on my laptop

#

it wante da very specific version, as unity often does

silent cloak
#

thats why i have unity hub on my laptop and desktop

olive sable
#

it opens after 20 min of downloading and unity taking ages to lauch

#

and boom everything broke

silent cloak
#

weird

#

my laptop is running mint

#

never ran into that

olive sable
#

apparently it wanted 6.004, but it actually didnt want that since downgrading the file to an older verison fixed it

#

well, fixed most of it

#

it ran, but it wasnt happy about some shaders still

silent cloak
#

weird

#

sounds like something wasnt in sync properly

olive sable
#

ye idk

silent cloak
#

always backup and make forks (cache and the library folder dont matter)

olive sable
# olive sable ```glsl const mat3 Matlab2LMSg = mat3 ( 1, 0.3963377773761749, 0.215803757...

fixed some bugs, made it a lot smaller

const mat3 Matlab2LMSg = mat3(
    1.0,  1.0,  1.0,
    0.3963377773761749, -0.1055613458156586, -0.0894841775298119,
    0.2158037573099136, -0.0638541728258133, -1.2914855480194092
);
const mat3 MatLMS2xyz = mat3(
    1.2268798758459243, -0.0405757452148008, -0.0763729366746601,
   -0.5578149944602171,  1.1122868032803170, -0.4214933324022432,
    0.2813910456659647, -0.0717110580655164,  1.5869240198367816
);
const mat3 Matxyz2rgbLinear = mat3(
    3.2409699419045226, -0.9692436362808796, 0.05563007969699366,
   -1.537383177570094,   1.8759675015077202, -0.20397695888897652,
   -0.4986107602930034,  0.04155505740717559,  1.0569715142428786
);
const mat3 MatLMS2rgbLinear = Matxyz2rgbLinear * MatLMS2xyz; //precompute this

vec3 oklch2rgb(vec3 lch)
{
    bool invalidHue = isnan(lch.z);
    float angle = radians(invalidHue ? 0.0 : lch.z);

    float a = invalidHue ? 0.0 : lch.y * cos(angle);
    float b = invalidHue ? 0.0 : lch.y * sin(angle);

    vec3 LMSg = Matlab2LMSg * vec3(lch.x, a, b);
    vec3 LMS = LMSg * LMSg * LMSg;

    vec3 rgbLinear = MatLMS2rgbLinear * LMS;

    vec3 mask = step(vec3(0.0031308), abs(rgbLinear));
    return mix(12.92 * rgbLinear, sign(rgbLinear) * (1.055 * pow(abs(rgbLinear), vec3(1.0 / 2.4)) - 0.055), mask);
}
void main()
{
    // lch goes here wrrr
    vec3 lch = vec3(0.0, 0.0, 0.0); 
    vec3 rgb = oklch2rgb(lch);

    gl_FragColor = vec4(clamp(rgb, 0.0, 1.0), 1.0);
}
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actually, could save some cycles at the isnan

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Good morning

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goodmorning

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My eyes hurt

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Good morning bwaadow

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For reasons

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