programming

[amber fractal]

I looked but couldn't find a way to change it

Discord warning me for every backup code I use

[olive sable]

i have absolutely no clue what any of my backup codes are

for any services

[amber fractal]

Discord gives you the opportunity to generate then and put it somewhere

I think like 8 of them

Nah 10

I have 5 left

Soon to be 4

Need to get another android device online

Would use the 2fa code if I didn't nuke it

Should use one to reinstate 2FA

[tiny edge]

try a bunch of zeros

[olive sable]

they're randomly generated, so a bumch of 0s dont work

[opaque sigil]

might want to make it a habit to save them

[jagged turtle]

Quite possibly a good idea, yes

[mighty thorn]

IP leak?

[amber fractal]

Glueless

You can't ping that

[tiny edge]

a bunch of 1s

[amber fractal]

discord codes are 8 chars long

[tiny edge]

that does look like ISP IP

[olive sable]

saving them where? if you save them on the compromised evice you're still fucked

[amber fractal]

mine is in cold storage

[tiny edge]

they start with 100.64 ig

i have the discord backup codes of my main in a notebook

and as im not using my main, you can guess

lost it years ago sob

[amber fractal]

It is infra in nature, I'll give you that

[opaque sigil]

pc, cloud storage, password managers, you name it

[olive sable]

i forget what services i even have that for besides discord

maybe sony

sony wont let me log in to my headphones

[amber fractal]

Just discord here

[opaque sigil]

who needs 2fa anyway I guess

[silent cloak]

every popular javascript dependency maintainer be like

[olive sable]

i have 2fa

but the codes are backup i think

and sony didnt want to send codes to my new phone cuz fuck you

i need to reboot the server

[opaque sigil]

this is how you end up with a massive headache because one day your phone suddenly breaks and now you're locked out

[olive sable]

o7 ears

[jagged turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCBAqaT4SQc evilDentge

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

hmmm

tty1 freezes on boto cuz of dispalymanager

tty2 jsut froze cuz i tried to add gpu to btop

but it does work on tty3

[tiny edge]

tty3 is the goat for some reason

[olive sable]

vllm seems to be working

i was expecting a gui ngl

[tiny edge]

lol

[opaque wharf]

I print them and it's in my wallet and also in my wardrobe

[amber fractal]

it was about time I watched this, interesting concept indeed

[olive sable]

i have a slop

[leaden crest]

I saw the thumbnail but havent watched it yet

reminds me of that video that had 2 english tracks by adding one in “klingon”

[olive sable]

i watched it already, was interesting i guess but i knew msot of the tricks already due to gamedev

[opaque wharf]

Now give it full control of your network and your social media

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[opaque wharf]

Wdym no? It's your clone, so surely it will act like you

[olive sable]

no, its not finetuned

yet

[opaque wharf]

Can't wait to tell Sam to delete french language pack

What's the name will be?

[jagged turtle]

aka openclaw

[opaque wharf]

SamVanSlop2000?

[olive sable]

no

[opaque wharf]

Anyway, back into wrestling C I go

[silent cloak]

openslop

[amber fractal]

I am against the access to network for personal reasons

mainly I don't need it rming my stuff instead

[jagged turtle]

you don't need network access for that tho?

[amber fractal]

the line full control over network is my issue

[jagged turtle]

ah

I would do it (segmented ofc) if nwero

[amber fractal]

I'd also do it segmented

not full net tho

espically as I just got finished adding devices to a headscale instance

discord auth is one of the methods of all time I'll have to say

[midnight sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWM59pDlUUs

[glass flower]

tsoding is such a interesting channel. perfect content to just put in the background... also

[jagged turtle]

can say

[olive sable]

i was wondering why my internet was lagging when i dont see much internet usage on my desktop

but the server doesnt show up on the desktop's tracker

and my server is using the full 10MB/s bandwidth

[silent cloak]

na u got a rat

rest in piss

[olive sable]

i am preparing for slop that doesnt need a templates

cuz the webui wouldn't work on the opt-125m

[opaque wharf]

Daang, I didn't know he had second channel. Thanks!

I always loved his main channel content lol

[opaque wharf]

So you don't need to tell it "Make no mistake"?

[opaque sigil]

you got it the other way around

[olive sable]

SLOP

[amber fractal]

Sloppa

[opaque wharf]

Wait so Tsoding is his second channel and daily is his main?

[opaque wharf]

"You are SamVanMaele, be autistic about curly braces"

[olive sable]

Works on phone too, and its pretty damn fast

Never limited by tokens ever again

[high brook]

only eletricity prices

[amber fractal]

load time is pretty good

[olive sable]

How do you know?

[amber fractal]

You can call it logical deduction

[olive sable]

I guess i did kinda leave the ports open to the local network

[amber fractal]

We love setting traffic to 0.0.0.0

[olive sable]

This is why i need to put the tailscale in a nixos container

[amber fractal]

You'd have to expose to localhost and local IP if you didn't want other IP connections

[olive sable]

Wdym?

[amber fractal]

exposing on 0.0.0.0 is a wildcard

Localhost is only localhost

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

So if you set to 192.168.129.233 you'd only get traffic from that if your using --listen on whatever frotnend your using

[olive sable]

I see

I feel like its kinda funny to have the slop accesible tho

Does it have shared history?

[amber fractal]

I only saw one logged in user

Don't know if I could log out

Didn't want to do so without asking

[olive sable]

I can see afunyuns history

So idk

[amber fractal]

I'd guess it is autologging into a user

[olive sable]

Oh there's a bunch of chinese now

[amber fractal]

:classic:

That is qwen for you

[olive sable]

I can hear my server chugging away from far away

[amber fractal]

Slop generation

[olive sable]

Localhost is automatically admin apparently

Slightly concerning but sure

[amber fractal]

Isn't like we are tunneling localhost traffic

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

That's nginx or similar software's job

[olive sable]

I just need to improve the setup to not be broken

[silent cloak]

nginx my beloved

[amber fractal]

I'm pretty sure about half of the tailnet is nixos

[olive sable]

is local llm still filtered?

ye

[amber fractal]

Depends

Mostly yes

Haven't really looked into good models as crippling 6gb VRAM

[olive sable]

its refusing to call me a slur so its at least partially filtered

[amber fractal]

I did some while the p40 was online, but not really anything interesting back when MoE was a new concept

[silent cloak]

marry it

be like the guy who married miku

[kind nimbus]

There are abliterated models on hugging face

I think Mistral and Nous Hermes models are uncensored

Also check here

https://huggingface.co/spaces/DontPlanToEnd/UGI-Leaderboard

[olive sable]

Qwen2.5-7B-Instruct seems to be dumb

[kind nimbus]

You can also do it yourself if you want

https://huggingface.co/blog/mlabonne/abliteration

[kind nimbus]

Used that before

Can confirm it's dumb

[silent cloak]

deepseek

[kind nimbus]

Somehow had the best results with Nous Hermes 3

[amber fractal]

It is running on 24gb so it might work decently

[olive sable]

it has a 4090

[silent cloak]

honestly deepseek is probably the best public opensource model

though naturally it has high requirements

[amber fractal]

Deepseek is really trying to progress

[silent cloak]

its on par with some earlier gpt releases imo currently

[amber fractal]

So yeah it tries to go as hard as it can

[silent cloak]

i havent tried deepseek 4 yet

but ik its on openrouter rn

[glass flower]

well... use qwen 3.5 9b

[amber fractal]

With the 1M context window it is bound to be nice

[silent cloak]

its the only decent way to have a good model and high context without draining ur bank currently

opus has gotten cheaper with its newer variations but that price is still terrible

even sonnet

[kind nimbus]

https://huggingface.co/huihui-ai/Huihui-Qwen3.5-9B-abliterated

[glass flower]

https://huggingface.co/HauhauCS/Qwen3.5-9B-Uncensored-HauhauCS-Aggressive i personally tried this one... it seemed fairly good

[silent cloak]

u guys remember when pygmalion was the only decent way to host a LLM locally

what was it 3b? 5b? 7b?

[olive sable]

this one has deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro (reasoning=enabled)

[kind nimbus]

Uncensored aggressive lmao

Yeah sounds great

[silent cloak]

lmk how v4 is

[olive sable]

where the would normally be a vllm button there is none here

[glass flower]

right vllm isn't using gguf

[glass flower]

well...

(in case of a federal investigation. this is pure parody )

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-agent-gif-17540199569095667102

qwen is not gonna be good enough for most questions like those anyways

[kind nimbus]

Approved by Evil

[olive sable]

i have to shut down vllm to activate a new model, and the vram stays in use the whole time even when not using the ai. kinda bad design

[glass flower]

ah yes because i want to ask stuff like that all the time anyway

[silent cloak]

exposed

sam just run pygmalion 7b

[glass flower]

why not just run llama.cpp?

[olive sable]

shadow said this one was better

shadow lied i guess

why model not hotswap?

[opaque wharf]

VLLM is better for multi user usage

[glass flower]

[opaque wharf]

Like if you actually serve it to many people, vLLM is better

[silent cloak]

write ur own inference tool like a chad

[glass flower]

llama cpp with their router mode is totally enough for normal users

i just have it running in the background on localhost all the time

[olive sable]

it is active for anyone on the tailscale rn when its up

[opaque wharf]

Yeah if you are only using it for 1-4 people I'd say llama.cpp is better

Like 1-4 people at once tho

So you can have 100 but only 1-4 active at a time is fine

[kind nimbus]

vllm works good with streaming if you need it

[silent cloak]

honestly hated streaming as a feature since it was introduced

but its like forced into so many providers now

[opaque wharf]

Isn't that's like every model ever nowadays

Sorry, inference engine

[kind nimbus]

Ollama also does it

[silent cloak]

i love when it cuts off

or fucks up the generation

[kind nimbus]

But i think vllm is still the fastest isn't it

[silent cloak]

its so good

[opaque wharf]

Yes for multi-user

But for small number of connection, eh

It's not THAT big of a difference I guess

[silent cloak]

u can always just fork it too

or write ur own

[amber fractal]

General model runners will always have a weakness

Espically if your doing something very far out of the scope of what it can handle

If your doing the millionith distill, then you will be good most of the time

[sage crag]

BGM

[sage crag]

BGM

[glad path]

"oh whats this? root user? i wonder what it means"
"cool username honestly, i'm going to stick with it from now on"
"why dont i install steam"
"oh wait, hmm, i'm low on storage"
"let me just clean up this old project files directory"
...and the rest is history

[sage crag]

[glad path]

konii why did you change you name again

it was different like a minute ago

[glass jetty]

to idol

ok

[sage crag]

pluu

[glad path]

pluu??

[glass jetty]

omg i so want to do things but i so not want to do really
and they even ask 'how you getting motivation'

[sage crag]

[glad path]

i dont

understand

[glass jetty]

lizard?

[sage crag]

@native surge

[glass jetty]

can you plz explain with words?

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

pluu

[glass jetty]

may i ask common sense?
re-active -> not doing anything unless asked
pro-active -> doing things when no one asked
folly_future::subscribe is pro-active, it invoke callback on promise side, no one asked future to do it
rust Future::poll is re-active, it not doing literally anything unless asked to, and has no outer mechanism
-# underline Waker is just notify, but not invoke future

mapping is clear and direct, right?

just terminology

[tender river]

FTL BGM is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFkGjEut9U4

[sage crag]

no BGM

[tender river]

[hard delta]

bgm

[tender river]

oh yesterday i randomly thought this gif's neuro expression has konii vibes

[sage crag]

there no i in brain damage

but there is you(i) not i(i)

[tender river]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-kitten-alone-sleep-tucked-in-gif-14814077

[sage crag]

erth

1 milion years old

[tender river]

hen working at bbc breakfast

what is her role

[sage crag]

breakfast

[tender river]

job market is rough these days

[high brook]

did you know Colonel Sanders Ran the Cafeteria at the Oak Ridge National Research lab in the 40s

[tender river]

l r l r stop and dash and up and talk b b a b start

[hot quartz]

breakfast

that's a beautiful chicken

[tender river]

https://tenor.com/view/revolutionary-girl-utena-chuchu-utena-anthy-himemiya-gif-14470704626431393179

[thorny marsh]

the usernames you guys have seem to keep regressing and devolving ngl

[sage crag]

[fast pagoda]

wdym

[broken cipher]

look who's talking

[sage crag]

[tender river]

me username always the same

[broken cipher]

i think most of us here have had the same nickname for a long time

[thorny marsh]

false because i said so

[fast pagoda]

Yep

It's me

Konyin

The lovable scamp

[tender river]

[thorny marsh]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/926152127489912893/948372313181675520/08978764.gif

[kind fable]

Where is John ?

[fast pagoda]

The cool refreshing taste of a crisp egg

[broken cipher]

true because you said opposite

[thorny marsh]

eggsoda

siiiiip

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-egg-explosion-explosive-surprise-gif-12230880912101582037

[midnight sigil]

only for konii

[thorny marsh]

hi karamel

[midnight sigil]

hi bluno

[thorny marsh]

also false because what does caibi even mean

[midnight sigil]

it stands for noob

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/food-processing-foodie-korean-food-chinese-food-gif-23894867

beef caibi

[midnight sigil]

Intel only release new tech when AMD is catching their ass up in stock

[rigid snow]

📋 todo: "planning 3 task(s)"

[proven merlin]

Why would you avoid bitwarden? I just selfhost a vaultwarden and connect my bitwarden apps to it

Not really if you do daily backups, which with vaultwarden are like 300mb maybe. Also easy to setup on proxmox with alpine lxc as example..

[opaque wharf]

Because it is yet another attack surface if I self host bitwarden

I'd rather not deal with too many services

[nocturne olive]

How do I stop username quality from degrading

[thorny marsh]

not you

[nocturne olive]

[vague sonnet]

by spreading Toast

[nocturne olive]

[thorny marsh]

i mean youve always been superbox so like there has been nothing to change

[nocturne olive]

Usernames don't degrade if not changed

[thorny marsh]

meanwhile someone in chat will probably adopt the name nyaaaa mrrp meow nyannn or something like that

[nocturne olive]

[thorny marsh]

theyd also probably have a cat pfp or something

[nocturne olive]

[thorny marsh]

idk man thats just how #programming goes

[nocturne olive]

#programming turns people into catgirls

[thorny marsh]

online

not really irl

[glass jetty]

nya mrr meow

[rough bloom]

[stark needle]

No way discord is online again

🥹

I was getting tired of scrolling twitter

[broken cipher]

now i see what are you talking about

[nocturne olive]

Cannot use #programming to become real gatgirl

[glass jetty]

-# just thing i noticed
i was thinking, and had quick question, asked ai
now i 3 hours writing text in this box instead of normal text file
now when i noticed it, i can finally copy everything to text file

[stark needle]

kitty

[nocturne olive]

[glass jetty]

oh no
it break text
omg there so many spaces i have to remove

[stark needle]

Coding without syntax highlighting chat is this real

[glass jetty]

btw

i remember some one said you cannot make moveToThread in rust

then wtf am i doing now? xD

[glass jetty]

yes this real
there no proper highlight when you mix 2 languages

i write in both rust and cpp at same time

[thorny marsh]

you need a comsci degree for that :p and even then its optional

[nocturne olive]

[glass jetty]

RawWaker provide void*
so for my context i can make thread affinity at executor lvl
since i have to anyway make Task contain Waker, to make Waker move Task from self ref to taskQueue
i can also add fields about thread affinity
bool shouldNotBeStolen and int16 shouldRunOnThread

would look like something something
moveToObjectThread(io_object).await?

btw i still not sure how tokio async threading looks like

i just doing stuff like how i feel it

[proven merlin]

That is a valid concern

[true hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-float-chill-water-gif-14413129433134838716

[kind fable]

where's john

[tender river]

nesuuus

do they have

skyrim in portugal

yet

[sage crag]

@native surge

@native surge

@native surge

@native surge

@native surge

do they have portugal

[stark needle]

Omg hi idol❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗

[sage crag]

lutel

[stark needle]

kni

https://tenor.com/view/duck-water-drinking-ice-water-ducks-gif-25233424

[nocturne olive]

The controller thingy is level 3 now

[sage crag]

@true hemlock this you

🥤🦆

Duck Review

6/10

[rigid snow]

uu

[tender river]

rude

[rigid snow]

cognac good with black tea

[tender river]

mlntcan d luffy

[rigid snow]

[native surge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1498700335613476955/20260427_022458.gif

[sage crag]

uu

[tender river]

https://tenor.com/view/utena-utena-tenjou-tenjou-utena-shoujo-kakumei-utena-revolutionary-girl-utena-gif-24973781

[opaque wharf]

@sick owl @fast pagoda what is your recommended locally run LLM that can be run on consumer HW for document summary?

Because I think my venture to vibe coding is a bust, I think I'll look into their usage to do some other tasks

[warped narwhal]

[mighty thorn]

Qwen 3.5/3.6

[opaque wharf]

Alright, noted. Why did you suggest that tho if I may ask?

[mighty thorn]

Token memory usage efficiency

[opaque wharf]

Hmmm, alright

[olive sable]

Goodmorning

[warped narwhal]

Erm actually it is 1pm

So good afternoon

[sage crag]

good meowning

[rough bloom]

good rawrning

[tender river]

good

generalized left-to-right, leftmost-derivation parsing using graph structured stack and shared packed parse forest

ning

[sage crag]

ying

[tender river]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-stretch-sleepy-wake-up-good-morning-gif-13249878171162581930

[leaden crest]

place becomes more #yuri every day

not complaining

[tender river]

[stark needle]

@

hi

meow

-# meow

nyaaa

kitty

[tender river]

[stark needle]

[tender river]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-kitten-alone-sleep-tucked-in-gif-14814077

[stark needle]

I have a secret recipe for chicken nuggets that I'm not supposed to tell anybody because it's my secret recipe but i'll tell you anyway it's not that hard you just need some chicken nuggets and a frying pan first you take one nugget and then you catch in the palm of your hand then you open your hand the nugget is gone so what you do then is you put another nugget in the frying pan and then you close your eyes and you imagine that the first nugget is in your hand and you open your hand and the nugget is gone so the frying pan is now empty of nuggets so then you open your hand again and a new nugget appears so then you close your hand again and the nugget is gone so you open your hand and a new nugget appears and you close your hand again and the nugget is gone so you open your hand again and again and again and a new nugget appears and you close your hand again and again and the nuggets keep appearing and you just keep opening and closing your hands and the frying pan keeps getting emptier and emptier and eventually the nuggets are gone

[opaque wharf]

@olive sable game night

[sage crag]

shadow "not neuro fan" lilac

[sage crag]

someone pull up the #yuri stats

[rigid snow]

messages: many

yuri: lots

[sage crag]

good stats

thank you stats person

[leaden crest]

a stats person is called a statsologist

[broken cipher]

no

a stats person i called a calculator

[sage crag]

nrr

stats person called

mlntcan d

[olive sable]

we're playing res evil in order rn. so res evil 1 remake

these older games dont want to run at 4K tho

[fast pagoda]

stats are made up

by me

[sage crag]

namesake

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

ms. info

[fast pagoda]

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343529987864657980/1343529989332799550/lenur-ezgif.com-crop.gif

[stark needle]

neurt

[opaque wharf]

4K is scam

Just blow up 1080p to wall size projector and watch from 7' away

[kind fable]

Guys where is John ?

[mighty thorn]

John AI

[kind fable]

https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2053047748191232310

Jarred Sumner (@jarredsumner)

99.8% of bun’s pre-existing test suite passes on Linux x64 glibc in the rust rewrite

**💬 56 🔁 44 ❤️ 1.2K 👁️ 88.0K **

FxTwitter · May 9, 2026, 9:41 AM

[fickle rain]

The power of vibecode?

[brisk laurel]

actual book has memmes

[stark needle]

c++ isnt that bad

it's easy enough if u know how low level memory management works

and even then just use smart pointers

[sage crag]

driving below speed limit on motorway

go to prison

[tender river]

dont wanna

catch me first

[proven merlin]

I personally like to believe the meme is talking about python vs c++ developers, not the difficulty of the langs

[opaque wharf]

Not that hard when you're driving below speed limit

[opaque wharf]

In ye olden days, that doesn't exists

And that book may be from that time

[tender river]

surprisingly

difficult

[young plover]

I just use KeePassXC on my desktop and KeePassDX on Android, then store the database in cloud storage. Currently self-hosted nextcloud but whatever should work.

You can point KeePassDX directly at an installed cloud storage provider without manual syncing.

[opaque wharf]

[silent cloak]

actually peak

[olive sable]

No

Res evil 1 remake does max 1080p, and it fine i guess

[maiden geyser]

ip grabber at the left

[stark needle]

pls click here https://ipgrabber.com/xAfRq56A

[glass jetty]

i did

librewolf said it grabber

[maiden geyser]

my ip is 196.202.240.225

[glass jetty]

my ip is charaverk.online

[stark needle]

my ip is 213.55.243.216

[glass jetty]

[maiden geyser]

deadass?

[opaque wharf]

The joys of being behind CGNAT

[maiden geyser]

not really a joy since it has a range anyway

[glass jetty]

99% of ip devices are behind nat

[sick owl]

I assume it looks less washed out IRL

[sick owl]

Depends, how much vram you got?

[opaque wharf]

Uhhh, lemme get you the spec

If there are no good one then I suppose I'd use cloudflare worker AI lol

[mighty thorn]

If I say this in my official textbook I’d drop out

Making fun of the material is for people to do with their friends then get in trouble for

Book should take self seriously

[rigid snow]

it ain’t that deep

meme is just “python easier lang than cpp”

not making fun of anything

[sick owl]

And what model did I rec to you before

Just so I can check I'm not gonna rec the same one twice

[opaque wharf]

Gemma 8-bit quant

The latest one

The uhhh, E2B

I asked between E4B 4bit vs E2B 8bit

But I wanna know if there's a better choice

[glass jetty]

cpp dev explain why you print with bitshift
rust dev explain how operator. work

then rust dev explain wtf is variance and how pinning work

[opaque wharf]

Also I asked for coding model last time. But I think coding are cooked on small model

[fast pagoda]

coding vs agent very different capabilities most of the smallish models are fine scoped to like one function

but you wont get opus schizoing for 3 hours to produce something that somehow works against all odds

[frozen igloo]

That explains a lot

[leaden crest]

not even xkcd?

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, that's why I opt to just do document summarization

Which, it may be useful

[midnight sigil]

it is funny that C++26 have an import keyword now

which imports a precompiled module, just like dear CPython

[stark needle]

chat is this conversation real

[fast pagoda]

i mainly use them for terminal stuff, they're pretty good at file ops and such

dont let them fuck around in root tho

[frozen igloo]

It’s only kinda very illegal

[vague vortex]

It's only illegal if you get caught by law enforcement

https://tenor.com/view/think-murphy-gif-14216699

[tropic spindle]

Bragging about it online definitely isn't going to get you caught of course

[maiden geyser]

unbothered supernova

[vague vortex]

Bragging online is actually fantastic OPSEC

And you should always do this when you do anything black hat

[midnight sigil]

is this Canvas LMS behind the scenes

[maiden geyser]

erm what

[vague vortex]

You should also do all your bright net stuff on your onion browser
Check your easily identified personal emails, browse your twitter that has your legal name on it, send messages to direct family members

[midnight sigil]

police definitely cannot catch me if I use Surfshark VPN

[vague vortex]

#AD

[vague vortex]

[midnight sigil]

Surfshark™ VPN can ensure your online privacy and security by encrypting your internet connection. With Surfshark™ VPN, you can browse the internet anonymously, access geo-restricted content, and...

[vague vortex]

  If SoCute()
    Print() ":neuroSoCute:"```
Is this valid python scripting or did I mess up my own joke again

[fickle rain]

Bragging about illegal activity on Discord is a great idea

[leaden crest]

the syntax could be better but who knows what compiles in python atp

[fickle rain]

Isn’t there a report button these days

[vague vortex]

And you should do it always all the time

[midnight sigil]

surely they do something

[maiden geyser]

one can only intentionally mess up this bad

[vague vortex]

It's been a few months for me

I'm still learning

[leaden crest]

neurocord report button does something pretty cool

it invites a wild @real sierra to the party, more specifically his own birthday party

[midnight sigil]

it'll just be an automated email sent to you, as long as they're not sending CP-related contents. That's what they only care about

[vague vortex]

just tag @reef condor while replying to the message you wanna report.
Mutually assured destruction shall follow

[leaden crest]

beat that @vague vortex

[midnight sigil]

why did I get syntax error in line 1 with Python 2.7.8 :((

[olive sable]

Wdym?

[vague vortex]

I think the terms need defined?

[opaque wharf]

Naah, just the people reflection

[split steppe]

ragebait

[sick owl]

Oh yeah tbh you wanna use the cloud if you are gonna rely on an LLM for coding

[vague vortex]

Neuro() = True
SoCute() = [defined function i think]

[sick owl]

Still useful to know what model I rec'd since a lot of the best ones right now are generalists

[olive sable]

We need blind out curtains still. Rn the sun is annoying

[vague vortex]

I'm genuinely so very outta practice

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, that's why I pivoted to document summary

[leaden crest]

while neuro():
if so_cute():
print(“Neuro So Cute”)
time.sleep(0.01)

[opaque wharf]

Also this is what you recommend me last time @sick owl

[leaden crest]

is that correct I lowk cant tell without a linter

too semicolon pilled

[vague vortex]

Right, gotta sleep the script or it'll just crash I think

[fickle rain]

I mean maybe you wanna spend 20K on hardware to run Kimi whatever

[vague vortex]

bro i'll be real I started learning this year and fell off the wagon so hard I gotta get back in there

[fickle rain]

Or however much the needed HW costs

[warped narwhal]

👀

[sick owl]

Ah yeah, I thought you had less ram than you do

I remember

[opaque wharf]

I moved the machine lol

[sick owl]

That makes sense

In that case your options are a bit better

[opaque wharf]

But also yeah, small model are cooked for coding no matter which I choose

[midnight sigil]

great, now it'll sleep for 35±10ms per cycle instead of desired 10ms

[sick owl]

Gemma 26BA4B would be okay for simple coding stuff but also take up your entire ram lol

And since you're running on CPU any decently sized dense model would be agonisingly slow

[opaque wharf]

Yeah. I give up on the vibe coding arc

But document summary may still be feasible

[frozen igloo]

Now do it in brain

[midnight sigil]

if I have 400+ cpus that can communicates with each other simultaneously, can I emulate a gpu

[opaque wharf]

Like, no delay communication?

You still need a lot more of cpu but yes

[opaque wharf]

Also, DDR5 limited

[midnight sigil]

let's say they have shared and unlimited L-cache

[mighty thorn]

Alright my 175k parameter model is in pretraining

1,000,000 times smaller than gpt 3.5

[midnight sigil]

I mean, 8800 GTX only had 128 cuda cores back then

[mighty thorn]

Batch size 256 on 8gb laptop GPU

[sick owl]

Honestly for that you could try the F16 gguf of GPT OSS 20B

https://huggingface.co/unsloth/gpt-oss-20b-GGUF

[mighty thorn]

875kb int8 checkpoint file size

[sick owl]

Alternatively, if you don't mind filling up your RAM you could run Gemma 4 26BA4B Q8 without vision at decent context and get smarter answers

Similar recommended settings to E4B in that case

If you use GPT OSS you can check the model card for recommended sampler settings

[sick owl]

https://huggingface.co/unsloth/gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-GGUF

[sick owl]

Oh, but make sure to limit context checkpointing or it will blow up your PC memory leak style

That gets big fast on gemma at long contexts

[mighty thorn]

Gonna run this thing on Monroe LA7-160

From 1958

[opaque wharf]

Alright, will do that then. Thanks @sick owl

[leaden crest]

now we know they’re broke asf

[lyric rover]

Guys, does neuro-sama using Vtube Studio?

[nocturne olive]

Neuro renders using probably the Live2D SDK rather than VTS

[lyric rover]

THX!

[opaque wharf]

What is unity used for then? Because Vedal mentioned it a lot

As the source of memory leak that is

[stark needle]

why not just use google cloud tpu

[mighty thorn]

“If ur homeless, why not just buy a house?”

[stark needle]

bro is literally free on kaggle

[stark needle]

128gb vram

[rough bloom]

AFAIK it's rendering Neuro and most of the stuff you see on stream + a whole bunch of other stuff we don't know about

[stark needle]

4x 900 GB/s

492 tflop

[opaque wharf]

That seems... inefficient

[rough bloom]

like, pretty sure the Discord integration was part of that at some point
-# source is some random mention of a C# Discord library ages ago idk I don't keep a list of sources

[opaque wharf]

Like, I think for regular stuff Neuro can use Live2D with just OBS right? Because I bet the LLM are not in unity as well

Unless...

[rough bloom]

I mean she does use Live2D, and VTube Studio is also a Unity app

the Live2D Unity integration is good, there's not really any big inefficiency there

[opaque wharf]

Ahh, got it

So it's just the outside integration that is the problem

[rough bloom]

yee, I think so

but we just don't know a lot of internals there, so can only speculate

[opaque wharf]

Knowing Shiro journey in Unity, I bet it's the network stuff

[silent cloak]

LaTeX moment

I only ever needed to learn it for a linear algebra class

I kind of like it in a weird way?

Just feels like markdown mixed with microslop word

[flint dome]

random question but does anybody have any experience here with gunsmithing or high velocity projectiles in general

i was trying to mod a nerf gun but wasn't sure if i'd have to reinforce other parts to withstand the increased fps

apart from swapping out the main spring for a heavier one and swapping out the barrel and breech for metal parts

i was wondering whether to put the end of the barrel at the open end as threaded or with m2/m3 screw holes

to be able to put in a rifle choke/linear compensator like a scar/bcar

[warped narwhal]

Erm

This is #programming

[flint dome]

This include programming, hardware, networking...

hardware

hard

[warped narwhal]

Like computer hardware

[flint dome]

steel is hardware

[warped narwhal]

Not powertools

[flint dome]

i buy it at the hardware store

[silent cloak]

nice try FBI

https://tenor.com/view/glow-in-the-dark-stick-man-glowing-walk-walking-gif-17406626

[flint dome]

then where do i ask

ive already been called a glowie in 5 other servers

[warped narwhal]

idk but definitely not here

Try #neurotic-neurons

[silent cloak]

something engineering related

we do software engineering here

[flint dome]

thats for insanity and autism not genuine questions

[silent cloak]

Ellie's discord maybe

[warped narwhal]

I'm not sure they'll be too happy about discussing building a lethal weapon lmao

[silent cloak]

i imagine most discords wont

[flint dome]

i dont think a foam blaster is lethal

[tiny edge]

compressed gas is better than springs

[flint dome]

nerf

not airsoft

[tiny edge]

ye i saw it is nerf

nerf also makes airsoft yk

[flint dome]

its a bolt action with single load rounds

[silent cloak]

i miss nerf battles

[flint dome]

it is spring from its very core

[tiny edge]

hmm

springs you can only make better till a certain point

[silent cloak]

Maven do you know anyone called gradle?

[tiny edge]

no

not that joke

[silent cloak]

rip

[silent cloak]

[flint dome]

i'll just add a 7kg retaliator spring

[flint dome]

the current spring is 2.5/3kg

[warped narwhal]

compiling Linux

[tiny edge]

ye cachy kernel on nix

[warped narwhal]

Kernel/torture.o

[silent cloak]

peak naming

[flint dome]

my question was since im adding a thinner barrel to speed up the darts and want to add a rifle choke (think muzzle brake but opposite function) should i have the barrel threaded at the open end or just put in 3 m2 screw holes and call it a day

[tiny edge]

i mean, they probably dont make much of a difference, it's up to you, i would thread the barrel for better looks

[glass jetty]

do you know that you can remove this thing on top?

[tiny edge]

ye

[quasi sundial]

so...

[glass jetty]

shortcut to split is ctrl+shift+9 or+0

[warped narwhal]

No

[quasi sundial]

are we like, adding modifications to firearms in here???

didnt know it was that kind of channel

[flint dome]

nerf gun

no firearms

[quasi sundial]

oh...

[flint dome]

we like to be legal

[quasi sundial]

never mind...

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/nctzen-glowing-green-nct-color-gif-5846549362595584245

[flint dome]

yes i like firearms but im not allowed to own em yet

[quasi sundial]

so uncool...

[tiny edge]

"chat i have a nerf gun that shoots at 900m/s how do i put a silencer on it?"

[quasi sundial]

i know a guy...

[warped narwhal]

"The nerf darts are made of lead will they hurt?"

[flint dome]

hey i cant do shit man the license for guns is hard to get here

[glass jetty]

at this speed it would require silencer bigger than gun itself

[tiny edge]

"hypothetically"

[warped narwhal]

"in Minecraft"

[quasi sundial]

LETS SJUST SAY if i DID have a guy who NEEDED this for some reason

[flint dome]

dawg the best i can get out of my gun is 60m/s before the stock and entire body of the gun shatters

[silent cloak]

turns out that doesnt work

[quasi sundial]

HOW would i go about doing it?

[flint dome]

first of all you dont

[tiny edge]

no? it's a 7.62x51mm

[flint dome]

second if you have to dont scream about it

[tiny edge]

well kinda

[quasi sundial]

yeah right

the friend does it

asking FOR a friend

[tiny edge]

it's a joke

[flint dome]

the rule of the fight club is you dont talk about the fight club kona

[tiny edge]

only chemical powered guns can reach supersonic

[quasi sundial]

if i wanted to make my "super dorito nerf gun" automatic how do i?

[silent cloak]

fires once

[tiny edge]

or railguns

[flint dome]

or me on a can of beans

[silent cloak]

bean silencer

[flint dome]

pray

[flint dome]

yes yes i know but still

[flint dome]

hmmm ill go and do some cad cam analysis and see which one is less likely to break my gun

and which one doesnt break the bank either

because believe it or not getting metals machined is expensive

[tiny edge]

true

[glass jetty]

have you seen this one btw?
it have big bullet with low speed (practically silent)
only 300m/s for 12.7mm
called ВССК «Выхлоп»
effective distance < 300m btw

[tiny edge]

so kinda useless

[glass jetty]

ya
notice silencer

[tiny edge]

ye so?

[flint dome]

thats not a silencer thats a fucking car axle

[tiny edge]

there is another type of silencers which are way bigger but i wont talk abt them because hmm

[glass jetty]

scale scale scale scale

[flint dome]

even the scrappy gun from the day of the jackal would be more useful

[tiny edge]

they are 20 feet long

a silencer

[glass jetty]

idk
this thing is literally anti-material class
weight 7kg

[flint dome]

ill prob get it threaded the price isnt that much

benefits of living in asia ig

[tiny edge]

its a tank silencer

anyways

20 mins compiling

prob gonna take more 1 hour

[flint dome]

just watch some show in the meantime

[glass jetty]

oh effective distance 600m actually
x2 compare to val/vintorez

2+ seconds fly time

[tiny edge]

lemme see my cpu usage

[flint dome]

that.... makes it useful

[glass jetty]

let me not

rust analyzer each time i go to std source files go brrrrrr

[glass jetty]

i will fix it myself at some point
i just have to make it return when it get some path and compile it from source again

[tiny edge]

it is not 100% yet

[glass jetty]

plz remove this toolbar useless things that kde decided to add for some reasons

i just cant look at them

make me sick

[tiny edge]

nerd

[tiny edge]

happy?

[glass jetty]

yeey

[olive sable]

[tiny edge]

should i play something with no cpu lol

[flint dome]

is that a question

[tiny edge]

idk maybe i can squeeze out those last 3% on each core

[flint dome]

doom it is then

[tiny edge]

doom, great idea

[mighty thorn]

Taking a detour before test4.
Test3.5 is testing conditional depth cache and mm encoding reuse

If both tests test3.5 and test4 succeed, my concept is successfully validated and I can begin actual trials

[tiny edge]

way faster, thanks claude

[reef ingot]

Day 67 of making my own game engine we are taking brake for 2 weeks for a hackathon stuff

[tiny edge]

nice gl!

[mighty thorn]

This is farther one of my ideas has ever gotten, very excited

[reef ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/dragonet-yonkagor-die-meme-gif-8443972692344878127

[sick owl]

The space station 14 devs have banned the word clanker

Wouldn't bat an eye elsewhere but was caught off guard given how anarchic ss13 is

[sullen spindle]

Good humans predictable as ever

[kind nimbus]

fml i forgot to turn off unlimited extra usage for Claude

[fickle rain]

How much $ did you burn

[kind nimbus]

214€

[opaque sigil]

[opaque wharf]

[topaz tendon]

So I've been dealing with this issue in TF2 for about 2 weeks now: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/8000
I was playing TF2 just now and decided to look into the journalctl again when the freeze occurred. Amongst some sort of window state spam, there was one entry I missed all this time. An innocent entry from systemd-resolved saying system time change has been detected and caches have been flushed.
So I know what was causing it. The fucking NTP client doing regular time syncs. Every time it happens, the game freezes. Every time I manually roll back the system time by even a second, it happens. Because of time sync...

Source spaghetti at its finest 🍝

[kindred perch]

Didn't realise 3hrs passed by

Fixing some bugs : 💀

[kind nimbus]

wait i just realized that was an invoice because i switched from monthly to yearly payment

my extra usage was only 12€ lol

false alarm

[fiery canopy]

that would

uhh

give me a panic attack

if i were U

[kind nimbus]

it did gave me a panic attack

[fiery canopy]

fe

[kind nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/mikaeli-fair-enough-you-hit-metal-17-times-you-succesfully-hit-metal-17-times-hit-metal-17-times-gif-5277472799929353239

[fiery canopy]

iv got to do some work on making it so the UI for this thing im working on isnt, terrible

So

fun times

[kind nimbus]

I now reached 119 pages on my report and i'm only like half way through

[frozen igloo]

This looks stable

[rancid ore]

hi
I am going to try to learn lua
and will probably be asking a lot of questions

first question
how do I run a program

[glass flower]

lua filename.lua

in your terminal

[rancid ore]

do I have to use the full path, or can I just type the name?

ah apparently I don't have lua installed

wonderful

[tiny edge]

fullpath if not on the same dir, name if you are on the same dir

[rancid ore]

b r a i n s l o w l y d i s i n t e g r a t e s

[amber fractal]

[fickle rain]

Wow the slop engine managed to install CAPE

I only had to install Windows

[tiny edge]

ubuntu?

new to linux?

[fickle rain]

IIRC CAPE sandbox recommended it

The flavor of the VM runner is relatively irrelevant to me

Even though it’s reported to run on other operating systems too, CAPE is originally supposed to run on a GNU/Linux native system. For this documentation, we chose the latest Ubuntu LTS as the reference system for the commands examples.

[tiny edge]

hnm

holy plasma sucks, why takes so long to build

[fickle rain]

The VM with CAPE is being ran on Win11 host anyway

[opaque sigil]

why are you building plasma

[opaque wharf]

Could be a plasma dev for all we know

[jagged turtle]

can you not use ../ to back out of the dir and execute lua scripts that way?

[opaque sigil]

relative paths banned

[jagged turtle]

bruh

[kind nimbus]

When i read CAPE my mind went

HTB Certified Active Directory Pentesting Expert

I gotta continue writing my CPTS report

[tiny edge]

problems with cachyos kernel build

and nix

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, path traversal is its own can of worms

You DON'T want to do that whenever possible

[jagged turtle]

true

[opaque wharf]

Now I'm wondering if there exists a universal binary

That somehow tricks windows into thinking it is an executable, but when it is brought to linux is also an executable

Time to FAFO

It is in fact, not possible

[opaque sigil]

https://justine.lol/ape.html

[opaque wharf]

Ye, but that requires thin shell

I also stumble upon that on my research

[opaque sigil]

depending on how much you want to bend rules wsl already supports this

through binfmt_misc

[opaque wharf]

Naah, that's too bending it

Also a fun coincidence that the blog name is Justin(e)

It would be fun if we had those tho. Web apps are no longer necessary

[opaque sigil]

i've been meaning to play around with the cosmopolitan libc

[opaque wharf]

So it is a WIP. The madlad

[frozen igloo]

my pc doesnt seem to be overheating anymore

[tiny edge]

thats just assembly

jar

py

pretty much most things

[nocturne olive]

The file host I had been recommended is a paid one so now I need to find a new place to host NeuroSynth's model files
Anyone got suggestions?

[fast pagoda]

huggingface

[nocturne olive]

There's no vocal synthesizer category though

[fast pagoda]

there are rvc models and similar on there

[nocturne olive]

Not the same category of models though
I already checked in the past and there's no labels matching singing voice synthesis

[fast pagoda]

someone is hosting a forsen RVC model on there under the random ass tag "RVC" without problems i'm sure they wouldn't mind

[nocturne olive]

Yeah those are

• TTS
• slop
• Whisper
• RVC
• Genre detection?
• Basically volume detection
  And I don't exactly want to put NeuroSynth next to slop

[fast pagoda]

i refuse to respond to this comment

anyways it would probably be the easiest

[nocturne olive]

It also doesn't seem to be the correct place to host a vocal synthesizer

[fast pagoda]

someone is doing a series of megaman nt warrior models lmfao

[nocturne olive]

All RVC

[fast pagoda]

yes because that's the rvc category

[nocturne olive]

We're intentionally pushing NeuroSynth as far away from RVC as possible

[fast pagoda]

it's a reinforcement learning based model trained on a dataset presumably with a normal pytorch or similar method no? it belongs on hf if even most of that is true

[nocturne olive]

What do you mean reinforcement learning

[fast pagoda]

should've just said machine learning there

[nocturne olive]

HuggingFace has no category suitable for SVS though

[fast pagoda]

https://huggingface.co/spaces/espnet/svs

https://huggingface.co/espnet/aceopencpop_svs_visinger2_40singer_pretrain

https://huggingface.co/models?other=singing-voice-synthesis

it does indeed have svs on ther already

[nocturne olive]

It's buried in the "other" category for some reason

Why the heck is it there and not in "tasks"

[fast pagoda]

because the task is text-to-audio

[nocturne olive]

Text to audio is song generation
SLOP

[fast pagoda]

i mean, by definition, it fits svs and is in some form another what neurosynth does as well

whatever your personal boundary is for what is slop and what isn't notwithstanding

[nocturne olive]

SVS is not even close to "text to audio"
There's a billion other things that go in and it isn't exactly even really text that goes in from the text you type

It's more like phonemes-pitch-tones-to-audio

[fast pagoda]

the categories are extremely broad strokes

[nocturne olive]

Even text-midi-to-audio would differentiate it enough

text-to-audio is literally just "You input text, the model generates a song"

[fast pagoda]

i mean it's significantly more than that if you look at the models

[nocturne olive]

So unless we find anything better I guess HF is an option after all

[fast pagoda]

the categories are broad

[nocturne olive]

It's all slop

[fast pagoda]

pretty much any model on hf you could nitpick and find a way it doesnt necessarily fit exactly the main category, tagging is about braod strokes it's not like they have you on oath

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/morpheus-believe-neo-beginning-to-believe-gif-5399492

[fast pagoda]

you dont even need to select a category

you can also just tag it with the training backend and leave it at that for the lulz

hell you could tag that bitch kotlin and nobody would care

[silent cloak]

vocal synth should be under text to speech

[fast pagoda]

yeah but apparently that is not it

because

it's all slop

[silent cloak]

i mean huggingface is all slop

but its still a TTS

[fast pagoda]

but not neurosynth

[silent cloak]

if u give it text and it makes speech

[nocturne olive]

TTS is completely different functionally

[silent cloak]

then

[fast pagoda]

im just quoting here

i agree

[silent cloak]

do u give it text

and it makes speech?

[nocturne olive]

I give it notes with phonemes

[silent cloak]

then its a vocaloid

[nocturne olive]

And no it does not make speech

It makes vocals

[silent cloak]

idk put it under synthv

[nocturne olive]

Way closer to Vocaloid than TTS

[silent cloak]

lmao

vocaloid is pretty much a subset of TTS

[nocturne olive]

I don't think there's any open-weight SynthV vocal synths

[silent cloak]

just more advanced settings on its "text"

[fast pagoda]

it's just text broken into smaller bits

[nocturne olive]

superset

[fast pagoda]

https://huggingface.co/YourLocalWorm/Synthvmodels

[silent cloak]

internally there isnt much difference, alot of the sounds are just handled for u with traditional TTS

[fast pagoda]

this guy is just holding his dataset publicly here

but yeah it's still just text to audio if you want to be more broad

[nocturne olive]

Not even close

[silent cloak]

a TTS is essentially a reverse synthV

[nocturne olive]

Are you intentionally trying to annoy me?

[silent cloak]

its ok to be wrong sometimes yknow

[nocturne olive]

So you are intentionally annoying me

I would very much like to not be intentionally annoyed

So anyway as we've established there is a well hidden but existing SVS tag on there so it should be a valid fallback if we can't find anything better that doesn't have the Git baggage that I don't care about

[high brook]

TTS not a reverse SynthV. TECHNITALLY you could say that would STT. but really it would be Singing to Midi or something similar

[fast pagoda]

hf has buckets which are not git

https://huggingface.co/docs/hub/storage-buckets

[silent cloak]

depends on which tech ur specifying

[nocturne olive]

Technically SynthV comes with reverse SynthV preinstalled

[opaque sigil]

hf is just git lfs right

[silent cloak]

TTS is kind of a blanket for like 4 different types of techs

[fast pagoda]

buckets are xet based

[nocturne olive]

And are they a simple GET request away?

[fast pagoda]

Storage Buckets are a repo type on the Hugging Face Hub providing S3-like object storage, powered by the Xet storage backend. Unlike Git-based repositories (models, datasets, Spaces), buckets are non-versioned and mutable, designed for use cases where you need simple, fast storage such as training checkpoints, logs, intermediate artifacts, or any large collection of files that doesn’t need version control.

s3 commands

[high brook]

TTS is Text to Speech. So setting aside semantics TTS and SynthV would be in the same class. A REverse SynthV would be a minimum SPeach to Text.

[opaque sigil]

good thing there are a bazillion s3 clients

[high brook]

you literally have your terminology backwards

[nocturne olive]

And are those implementable entirely on the web side in such a way that it just feels like downloading a file with a GET request?

[silent cloak]

i think i just worded it like ass, im referring to alot of tools breaking down sentences into phonemes for the program then to play the respective soundbites for

[blissful geyser]

Compiling on a VPS

im hitting OOM on build

[nocturne olive]

Remember that you gotta be able to make it on the website

[high brook]

THen TTS and SynthV (which is SVS) both do that in a sense

[fast pagoda]

i dont know

[nocturne olive]

You're literally the web dev

[silent cloak]

exactly

[opaque sigil]

super, s3 is THE storage api for the web

[silent cloak]

one just removes a middle man generally

[opaque sigil]

https://www.npmjs.com/package/@aws-sdk/client-s3?activeTab=readme

[fast pagoda]

i just found out about buckets literally when i searched it

i assume any normal s3 method would work

but i dont wanna be wron