programming

[opaque sigil]

do you have cudaSupport enabled globally

[tiny edge]

firefox uses rust?

[olive sable]

yes

[opaque sigil]

don't do that

and yes

[opaque wharf]

Yes

For a long time now

[rare bridge]

[opaque sigil]

firefox depends on onnx which needs to be recompiled when cudaSupport is on

[rare bridge]

i've actually been wondering if it's worth me moving back to linux...

i'll have to see how far proton/wine has gotten in running my usual daily apps

[opaque wharf]

100%

[tiny edge]

yes

[lost wasp]

linux, ubuntu, gnome. right?

[opaque wharf]

What is you daily apps?

[high brook]

Do you play snt games with anticheat or use adobe?

[vague sonnet]

rust is a virus, cancel fast and delete it

[tiny edge]

win win scenario

no virus + no scam

[olive sable]

maj

nah

[maiden geyser]

see you on windows in 3 days

[olive sable]

fingers misaligned while typing

[rare bridge]

currently using jetbrains software, discord, steam (mainly umamusume, screeps, but also have ets2 in vr mode and whatnot), trying to think what else

[opaque wharf]

Not me. I did not break his finger

[rare bridge]

ngl unlikely i'll move, i don't wanna fuck with my backups again

[opaque wharf]

Hmmm, maybe not then

Wait until valve finished polishing vr

[tiny edge]

all those work on linux

[opaque wharf]

Works yes, but still require effort for the vr thing

[opaque sigil]

i'd personally recommend having a separate input for https://github.com/flox/nixpkgs and grabbing all cuda-enabled packages from there alongside their binary cache

[rare bridge]

yeah, once valve's gotten everything ready for frame

[flint dome]

https://tenor.com/view/futaba-persona-5-persona-gif-4558444542703030295

[opaque sigil]

kind of iffy outside unstable though, their "stable" branch doesn't follow 25.11 iirc

[tiny edge]

in windows too

vr itself takes effort to set up

[rare bridge]

tho once again my backups are a pain and i've not even finished setting them up on windows yet

[opaque wharf]

Ye but you can bother customer support for every hardware ever on windows

[tiny edge]

and so on linux?

that's like, the point of linux

[opaque wharf]

Not always

You go to community if the manufacturer doesn't officially support linux

Which is most of them

[rare bridge]

why bother customer support they'll just give up the second you say you've already done all the basic troubleshooting steps

[tiny edge]

from what i see VR seems to work normally on linux anyways

except for mfs2024

[olive sable]

nope

depends entirely on the headset

[rare bridge]

just hope and pray random user on random internet fourm has already solved your issue

[tiny edge]

"how do you fix X?"
<comment deleted>
Thanks it helped!

[rare bridge]

[opaque wharf]

Or when the fix involve downloading dodgy patch/driver

[fickle rain]

sudo claude -p “Fix $ISSUE”

[olive sable]

the oculus CV1 has really shitty driver support on linux. i got it to work by manually editing some code. but i vibrated the whole time

[fickle rain]

Can you run Claude under sudo actually

[opaque wharf]

Free head massager

[opaque wharf]

I thought the headset vibrated lol

[olive sable]

dum

[maiden geyser]

vibrate at this user!!!!!!

[rigid snow]

"how do you fix X?"

stinky sock a clock the rock mock a lock minecraft block big flock

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

[opaque wharf]

My most likely guess is the driver do some filtering

So the hardware sends out raw data

That's why it is jittery

[olive sable]

the issue is the CV1 uses 2 cameras

and the use both cameras to generate a depth

but for the x and y they switch between the cameras to double the polling rate or something

[rigid snow]

why is computed justin all of a sudden fill me in on the lore

[rigid snow]

ts not funny 💔

[opaque wharf]

What is ts?

[rigid snow]

ttypescrip

[maiden geyser]

this or this shit

[opaque wharf]

Is this one of the guard always lying situation?

[rigid snow]

ts "ts" means "this shit"

[glass jetty]

fucking llm

literally anything that not claude opus is useless

every word is missinformation

[vague sonnet]

the LLM way

[faint sandal]

[glass jetty]

happens

it happens when you hibernate, charge, and resume

[opaque wharf]

It would be even funnier if it is desktop pc

[glass jetty]

100% reproductivity

[rare bridge]

worst case scenario i have a machine i can dedicate to vr

so not a huge issue if linux can't run it, but can't think of any reason to move to linux rn

would require more work than is worth it on my end rn

[olive sable]

it really depends on the headset. oculus CV1 is worst-case scenario

besides no-name brands

[rare bridge]

eh, tbh the vr machine is more capable at vr than my personal machine

[opaque wharf]

Sometimes I wonder how you are able to function cloud

[rare bridge]

oh?

[olive sable]

vrchat is cpu bound im pretty sure. i never got more than 40% usage on my 3090 at the time. and now that im on a 7900xtx, or if i use the server with a 4090, that percentage will be even lower

[rare bridge]

what do you even mean by that

[glass flower]

how about you write the prompt in complete sentences instead of fragments... i'm a human and i wouldn't be able to understand what you want from me

[opaque wharf]

I feel like every mods here always encounter the most weirdest of issue

[rare bridge]

i'm not encountering a weird issue rn tho

[vague sonnet]

I mean, windows is pretty shit
unless you're reliant on a bunch of windows-exclusive apps

[glass flower]

i also have a CV1 i'm too scared going down the rabbit hole of trying to get it work on linux... so i'm just waiting for the steam frame

[rare bridge]

true, but what i have works rn, and moving os' would require a bunch of work that i just don't see being worth it

... tho having cron would be so fucking useful for backups, windows task scheduler sucks

[fickle rain]

Did it perform any web searches

[olive sable]

its not unplayable, especially since its not visible to other players when you're close to them cuz of motion smoothing. only your own view vibrates a bit and people in the distance will see you vibrate from afar

[vague sonnet]

yeah that's fair
personally I'm waiting for new pc before I switch
because I'm gonna have to setup everything from 0 anyway

[glass jetty]

i would add 1. 2. 3. in list at the end, and remove \n from first sentence; but it doesnt matter, 99% sure ai are fine with it
it just fucking awful
in fact it answered following structure, but it just said everything wrong (just not true)

[glass jetty]

no

[opaque wharf]

You own PoV vibrating even if a bit is not exactly "small" issue

Motion sickness is very much real

[fickle rain]

What model is this and are you on the free plan?

[olive sable]

im not easily motion sick, i casn handle it. does give a headache after 2 hours

[fickle rain]

When I ask Gippity anything even moderately technical it starts web searching everything

[vague sonnet]

is it what happens to gamers when they move from their chairs for the first time in weeks?

[rare bridge]

mby when it comes to my somewhat often os reinstall i'll install linux instead for a while, see how i feel about it compared to windows now that the linux gaming scene has matured

[glass flower]

eh. i feel the main issue is the way you wrote the whole thing. the 1.2.3 wouldn't have helped you need to ask a complete question and not just. A? b?. if you talk to it with natural language it will understand it better

[olive sable]

cloud nixos?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1426254498678046750.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf&lossless=true

[rare bridge]

knew there'd be at least one person suggesting nixos

[olive sable]

[vague sonnet]

those linux tribalists

[rare bridge]

i've been curious about it (or hell even just the nix package manager itself), but idk if i'd use it

i might play around with it in a vm or something for a bit before deciding if i want to stick to it

[olive sable]

its handy

[opaque wharf]

Is it leggy tho?

[tiny edge]

it seems very cool

[vague sonnet]

who is nick sauce and why is everyone talking about him

[tiny edge]

been using it for a day and no problems yet

[rare bridge]

but this is all future stuff, i don't really have any intention of moving from current setup rn

[glass jetty]

i am not paying for ai - they all are useless
and opus (assuming you have to run it 3+ times for same input) doesnt jastify anything

id better search myself
all my exp with ai is outputs like this, it just fucking useless

except free opus, free opus is peak, it actually helps, if it is free

[rare bridge]

• i have other things to worry about rn than reinstalling my os

[fickle rain]

OK so you’re running crippled models

[tiny edge]

the thing i noticed abt nixos is that downloads are VERY slow compared to other distros

specially cachyOS

[rare bridge]

mby if i won the lottery and got myself one (1) 1tb nvme ssd, i could try out nixos in dualboot

[fickle rain]

What thinking level did LMArena offer for Opus?

[rare bridge]

yes only 1 1tb nvme ssd, that's all i could afford with £22m

[tiny edge]

ask shiro, shiro is rich fr fr

[glass jetty]

lol none now
they removed it

[olive sable]

no

[glass jetty]

if you mean in past, that sometimes took longer then their timeout for quite complex input
so it just was aborting thinking

[fickle rain]

Did it give you options to set thinking level at all

[glass jetty]

no

[fickle rain]

Probably the lowest one possible then

[olive sable]

i have a spare P310 1TB if you want it, 80 bucks

[rare bridge]

cheap

most nvmes go for at least half the world's gdp these days

[olive sable]

i bought it for 76 euro a year ago lol

[rare bridge]

before the prices rose

[glass jetty]

it doesnt matter.
paying for opus make no sense.
using lower lvl ai is useless.
its all.
it useless even for just searches.
it was literally search.

[olive sable]

ye

[glass jetty]

-# omg is it dns issues again

[rare bridge]

classic dns

[maiden geyser]

always dns (unless it's dpi)

[warped narwhal]

No, it's armey

[rare bridge]

sometimes dnssec

[nocturne olive]

[rare bridge]

but that's just dns with a trenchcoat

[glass jetty]

i have no idea why dns sometimes just cant make it

vps provider provide no dns config btw

i asked via email

[warped narwhal]

Try nslookup instead of ping

Nslookup can bypass the cache if you use a DNS IP directly

[glass jetty]

i kinda want whole system to work without manual reset
i basically just doing this tun0: inet 10.123.0.15/16 scope global tun0
and everything go to server|| (everything, no exceptions by domain names, it just not reasonable with full vpn via tun, or i just not know how to send via real device bypassing ip route)||
i have no idea why dns would break, it just regular ip packet going through tun

[rare bridge]

oh yeah this reminds me of a funky issue i'm having

this machine is on and is on the same network

[glass jetty]

i use aes so it is dns
if it would be dpi, i would have connection reset, or just nothing work
but current connections are fine, just dns cant resolve names

[rare bridge]

apparently my server cannot see it

but it can see my server

so ?????

[glass jetty]

try arp

when issues on L3 i try arp first

[opaque wharf]

And you said you don't have weird issue

Also, patch your system fellas. Another privilege escalation bug just dropped

Dirty Frag

[rare bridge]

so it's mac address is being broadcast

[glass jetty]

wait there literally command arp

i used arp-scan

[rare bridge]

however the packets never reach it

[glass jetty]

[rare bridge]

could be they're being dropped by something

network structure here is weird anyway

[fickle rain]

What are the odds it was LLM found

[glass jetty]

you mean one that fireship made video of?

[opaque wharf]

Low Level

[maiden geyser]

does dns-over-https help though?

[opaque wharf]

Highly likely since it is of the same categories as Copyfail

[opaque wharf]

arp-scan -lg my beloved

[olive sable]

[maiden geyser]

Several people are typing...

[glass jetty]

meow

[rough bloom]

looks like it's at least LLM-assisted

[rare bridge]

got openreach modem -> tplink router with wifi6 capabilities, which is also a switch since most routers here are

one cable here goes to the server, another cable goes to a tplink SG105E switch with vlan support (tho the upstream router itself doesnt support vlan, so i use a port isolation-based vlan, which is currently disabled)

here it splits off: one cable goes to the machine in question (18:c0:4d:9c:a2:5c), another cable goes to a larger switch (don't know the model number) which then holds pretty much anything that needs to be able to talk to anything else

the whole point of the vlan switch is i sometimes need to isolate that machine if i ever need to give anyone else access, so they can't touch stuff i don't want them touching

[rough bloom]

https://fixupx.com/v4bel/status/2036229673814990915

V4bel (@v4bel)

↩ (@v4bel)
Haha, it's been a while everyone.
︀︀
︀︀Unfortunately, I didn't have the help of AI agents when I was working on this research. I started playing with AI agents after this project. If I had worked with an agent, the project timeline would probably have been cut in half.
︀︀
︀︀When I tested Linux kernel auditing with Claude Code, the agent couldn't find vulnerabilities of this bug class on its own. It was only after I showed it this article that it was able to reproduce some of the findings.
︀︀
︀︀In this era, "discovering new attack surfaces" and "identifying clear bug classes" seem to matter more than ever.

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FixupX · Mar 23, 2026, 11:52 PM

[opaque wharf]

Actual pro at works

[fickle rain]

This is some other bug

[rough bloom]

ye I know

[fickle rain]

Or maybe I am of the blind

[rough bloom]

point is that this tweet was from before they found dirtyfrag

[opaque wharf]

Meanwhile how many vuln windows actually have without us knowing

[fickle rain]

It’s not like LLM can’t use IDA/Ghidra

And while Windows has obfuscated stuff, the important parts are not I think

[opaque wharf]

I mean, theoretically LLM could just feed the raw machine code

[glass jetty]

it just can....
error probability is high and unpredictable, but it can

[fickle rain]

Sure, but I think for big things having actual decompiler is better

[opaque wharf]

Honestly, I wish LLM could have the whole pipeline tho from source code to ast to ir to asm to machine code

All of those rich contexts that we're missing out

[glass jetty]

isnt ais already have some sort of ast?
or they literally just get code as input?

i really not into ai so idk

opus did a lot of compile time wrong syntax catches, i had to explicitly say that it is design/intermediate never compiled, ignore compilation errors

[glass jetty]

why would it need ir?
how would it work?
i mean you can just input output compiler results
and make llm gen code to placehold everything that make it fail to compile

[stark needle]

Llm sop

Slop

I love ai slop

Ai slop my beloved

[glass jetty]

fck ai

[fast pagoda]

https://x.com/i/status/2052463477852176765

tetsuo (@tetsuoai)

Richard Stallman dancing to Soulja Boy at MIT...

The GPL didn’t prepare us for this.

▶ Play video

X · May 7, 2026, 7:00 PM

F

[glass jetty]

would be better if it would be never discovered

[maiden geyser]

oyyyyyy doctos

[kind fable]

https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2052463477852176765

tetsuo (@tetsuoai)

Richard Stallman dancing to Soulja Boy at MIT...
︀︀
︀︀The GPL didn’t prepare us for this.

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FxTwitter · May 7, 2026, 7:00 PM

[maiden geyser]

fixvx is easier to type in

[kind fable]

yesn't

[fast pagoda]

oh it embedded on desktop

[kind fable]

https://fixvx.com/i/status/2052463477852176765

also the output is vxtwitter and not fxtwitter and it's just worse

[fast pagoda]

https://nitter.net/i/status/2052463477852176765 this one i have seen

[kind fable]

it has the wrong blue color and no comment RT like and views indication

[fast pagoda]

dunno if it work

nope

[kind fable]

nitter is meh

but can work

[maiden geyser]

do you have a favourite ntp cerber by any chance

[kind fable]

i still use the legacy fxtwitter

and it also has an alias for x but i forgor

[kind fable]

fixupx

same thing as fxtwitter

[kind fable]

i'm unsure what you mean

[fickle rain]

A personal favorite

[kind fable]

there's also that one but unsuitable because it tends to get blocked or logged by automodding and also 💀

[olive sable]

discord gif finder down?

[rough bloom]

Discord in general down

having issues™

-# again

[kind fable]

discord attachement is down

[rare bridge]

am i alive??

holy shit finally

i've been trapped in discord api issues purgatory for like

15 mins

[stark needle]

Discord dead

Chat is this real

[rare bridge]

yes

[stark needle]

Hi cloud

[rare bridge]

alooo

[stark needle]

Now profiles are dead

Nooooo

Microservices dead

Wait i can just send images encoded in base64

Surely mods will like this

[olive sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1327142377139343430/1486773213190029444/doc_2026-03-25_19-13-27.gif

i seem to be alive

[rough bloom]

I am revived

[kind fable]

i can still send images

it's called using my own CDN

[olive sable]

ive been fine this whole time

[kind fable]

https://julienraptor01.ddns.net/Discord asking for financial support.png?noworkaround

[olive sable]

i only get gif finder not working

[kind fable]

https://tenor.com/view/uno-gif-5062314584481309502

even that i can get it to work

[olive sable]

no like

the search bar

[kind fable]

i know

cause discord do weird stuff

[olive sable]

finding gifs that i save already works

i just cant type word in

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-boom-thoughts-anime-girl-boom-thoughts-gif-3847619567883703209

[rare bridge]

discord freee meee

finally

[rough bloom]

hello welcome back

until next time

[rare bridge]

give it 5 mins and i'll be stuck in hell again

oh my mcfucking god

[stark needle]

Hundred million dollar corporation by the way chat

[obsidian mantle]

John discord strikes again

[olive sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1426254498678046750.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf&lossless=true

the new dr stone episode is goated

discord outage wont let me send messages? nah id win

this is but a mere inconvenience to me

[ebon basin]

tesdt

okay works

[olive sable]

it has worked for a while

sometimes it jsut doesnt go through but resending it works after a coupel tries

[kind nimbus]

I think i boosted this server 3 times around a month ago

Eugh discord is fully down now

Oh now it works again

Discord has never heard about HA apparently

They have low availability instead lmao

[amber fractal]

Seems like it

[ebon basin]

Anyway I wanted to post a lab beaker as a plant pot xD

[warped narwhal]

D:

language!

[amber fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126496895246807123/1488042236993339483/6D972AD6C73A5B53D7A000B454B9E52A.gif

[rare bridge]

i can't even respond to you

[warped narwhal]

So it seems like I can send messages, but I don't receive messages as they come in, instead I get a block of 20 of them all at once

[grizzled siren]

I can see Discord for now, but I can't see profiles yet.

[warped narwhal]

All your names are white for me as well

[amber fractal]

Perms are also not real

So no private channels unless you were already in one before it started

[rare bridge]

discord

[olive sable]

you cant post images, but image links will embed

name colours work for me

i cans ee profiles and everything

[dull lagoon]

Thankfully, I really like the colour schemes of a lot of the names!

[olive sable]

but i cant use any search function

my emote reactions wont stay

[olive sable]

so im doing at your message, you jsut dont know it

[dull lagoon]

The Nitro ad isn't even loading for me lol

[ebon basin]

I think when your message is read it isn't send at least no immediately

[amber fractal]

We are so back

[opaque sigil]

[ebon basin]

I extend the ONI mod but I will soon stop for today. New features Neuro get RP answers from the Party phone(not tested yet), can browse the wiki , can read notifications , can control time a little , get extended colony info , can query the state of other dubes

[tacit furnace]

@cinder trellis Hey — I’ve been working on a small system called Halgorithem focused on detecting confident-but-wrong outputs in LLMs.

Instead of using another model as a filter, it tries deterministic checks (like math execution and source comparison) to validate correctness.

I noticed Neuro-style systems can struggle with confident hallucinations, so I thought this might be relevant. If you ever experiment with something like this, I’d love to get your thoughts.

[amber fractal]

Another chatter disappears under mysterious circumstances

[fast pagoda]

i cant use reacts its over

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

while you're here vedal, give shiro a raise to pay for a screeps server

[frozen igloo]

Weeeeeee

[amber fractal]

Accend my boy

[cosmic sphinx]

chatter not found

[amber fractal]

That's on your end

They aren't dead yet

[cosmic sphinx]

[olive sable]

it is on your end

[cosmic sphinx]

god, I wouldn't have known otherwise

[patent shard]

a non malicious vedal ping is usually a zep/mute, I think

[olive sable]

i dint get muted, but did get zepelinned when i did it by accident

[warped narwhal]

I think embeds are client side so that explains why those still work

[olive sable]

[warped narwhal]

Time to bring out the at vedal gif

[cosmic sphinx]

[kind fable]

Guys can we program VedalAI to sing this please
https://youtu.be/3o8Kf9XTjUE

[warped narwhal]

Where do I get this emoji?

I need to verbally harass encourage my friends to be better

[rare bridge]

we want another screeps server?

i had one running for some time and no-one used it

[olive sable]

we arent using yours' rn

[patent shard]

SCHIZO

[rare bridge]

yeah ofc not, i have it turned off cos no-one touched it after i set it up

[olive sable]

shiro stopped playing and i didnt have acces to it

[warped narwhal]

Cause you took so long to set it up we all lost interest in screeps

[rare bridge]

[olive sable]

i didnt lose interest, i jsut never got given acces

[rare bridge]

who's hosting the current one or am i banned from it for crimes against screeps

[olive sable]

there is no current one, its jsut public server

i can hsot one tho

i have my own server now

[rare bridge]

or i could redeploy the one i have set up already

[olive sable]

true

[rare bridge]

i'd have to move it to a more capable server tho, but that'd take me idk 5 mins

[warped narwhal]

Yes, gib ip

[rare bridge]

pretty sure there's a button for it on portainer

[olive sable]

no

me have cloudflare

[silent cloak]

Still dont know what screeps is

[rare bridge]

sam

[silent cloak]

It it a game or some tool

[rare bridge]

get them into screeps

[warped narwhal]

[olive sable]

game

you can spawn litle dudes at the cost of some energy

and you program what they do

so they can collect energy to make more, or build shit, or invade shiro, or kill shiro, or steal shiro's room

[rare bridge]

fun fact

my room has no defenses except for the tower

[glass flower]

its like robotwars but with programming and rts elements

[olive sable]

i know, im your neighbour

[rare bridge]

which is an interesting fact to say when my neighbour is here and does have fighting code afaik

[olive sable]

not really

[rare bridge]

[olive sable]

but its not far off from being finished

i just have no reason to invade you

[rare bridge]

yet

[glass flower]

i'm wondering... should i rather work on a game or work on my screeps...

[olive sable]

partially cuz i cant posses another room rn, partially cuz there's another free room next to me, and partially cuz politically you have leverage as a neurocord mod

[rare bridge]

[rare bridge]

the last part

but doesn't shiro have leverage as a neurocord admin

[glass flower]

what is that?

[olive sable]

ye but shiro wont ban me
he likes me too much

[rare bridge]

screeps but i tortured it and put it in a docker container

[glass flower]

[rare bridge]

okay so

[silent cloak]

Interesting

[rare bridge]

i don't have a "move this container elsewhere please" button

but

i have a copy and paste button

i could just... redeploy the container but on the better server

[glass flower]

is that a custom server?

[rare bridge]

(i'd just restart this container but i'm decommissioning this server in a few months so i'd rather not redeploy it just to move it

[rare bridge]

yeah

[olive sable]

are you paying for this server?
cuz i own mine, its next to me

[glass flower]

[rare bridge]

i'm paying for both, but i do have a homelab

[olive sable]

how does that work?

do you not fully own it?

[rare bridge]

okay so

i have 3 servers

[rare bridge]

one is a homelab

1 is a vps from ovh that i rent

[olive sable]

an screeps is on the 3rd one?

[silent cloak]

Relatable

[rare bridge]

1 is a dedicated box i rent from hetzner

currently screeps is on the ovh box

i'm moving it to the dedicated hardware box

because the ovh box has no purpose for me and i plan to decommision it

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

Ovh is a pain in the states

Outside of basic vps use

[olive sable]

shiro was also mentioning stuff about a server for fumoquest

[rare bridge]

yeah shiro wants a server for fumoquest

i did offer to run the software if shiro can dockerize it

[olive sable]

i offered mine but he's afraid of getting doxxed

[silent cloak]

Lmao

[olive sable]

oh ye

[silent cloak]

Fumoquest data mines?

[olive sable]

@rough bloom the tailscale only shows ipv6 now

[rare bridge]

just waiting for him to get back to me on whether he can dockerize the fumoquest server (or give me access for me to attempt to dockerize for him) @real sierra

[rough bloom]

ye same thing

[olive sable]

does that work or is it still bad?

[rough bloom]

no difference at all

[olive sable]

i see

ye then it would need to be via cloud-flare 0 trust

[rare bridge]

esp since the ovh box is

1. a vps
2. only has 8 cores and 24gb of ram, the hetzner dedicated hardware has 16 cores, 64gb ram

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

Sounds like overkill

[olive sable]

im offering a server with 40 cores and 256gb of ram, and a 4090 that im gonna sell eventually.

[rare bridge]

i run a ton of things, so i like to have the resource capacity

[rough bloom]

not the core issue I think anyway

[olive sable]

is it not?

[rough bloom]

having a shared access server provided by someone who doesn't really know what they're doing is just

[rare bridge]

the homelab is tiny tbh

[rough bloom]

a bad idea

[rare bridge]

4 cores, 16gb ram

[silent cloak]

I only run things of the same type on hardware

Keeps stuff isolated

[real sierra]

give you access... to my hard drive?

[rare bridge]

does bro not have this thing in version control

[olive sable]

i know parts of what im doing, but everything combined is a bit annoying

networking is overcomplicated and sucks

[rough bloom]

you neither have VMs nor do you know how Tailscale works

or any sort of access control presumably

[olive sable]

i know partially how it works

[rare bridge]

i assumed you'd have this in git or something

[silent cloak]

Proxmox

[olive sable]

we do have acces control

its opt-in so everythign is disabled

[real sierra]

it's a unity project

idk how to even put that in git

[silent cloak]

Bruh

[rough bloom]

do you mean Tailscale ACLs

[silent cloak]

Like any other thing?

Wdym

[rare bridge]

okay that's a bit more complicated, but you can put it in git

[olive sable]

you just put the assets folder in git

[silent cloak]

All of my unity projects are in git

Just ignore the libraries directory

Because its all temp bloat

[rare bridge]

yeah

all you need is assets

[silent cloak]

I mean its better to have the project files and related too

U just dont need cached stuff

[olive sable]

ye

[rough bloom]

ye then you don't actually have any access control

probably

[olive sable]

wdym?

[silent cloak]

Never used tailscale

[rough bloom]

that's basically just a firewall

[rare bridge]

i should have access control set up for https://power.astonmachan.com/ i think

[rough bloom]

there's no point in it if you're going to intentionally share access

[rare bridge]

if it isn't then pls lmk

[olive sable]

i want to give acces to my compute, but not every storage drive

so thats why ACL

[rough bloom]

ye ACL not do that

at all

this is what I meant by you should know what you're doing if providing access like this

[real sierra]

but I wanna keep it closed source

[olive sable]

ACL lets me block incoming traffic no?

then i can set up who gets to acces what hardware myself

[rough bloom]

[rough bloom]

[silent cloak]

Ufw block everything

eZ

[rare bridge]

private the repo then

only give access to whoever needs it

[olive sable]

tailscale has "tags" for that tho

[real sierra]

isn't that a paid GitHub feature

[silent cloak]

No

99% of my github is private

[rare bridge]

i fucking hope not considering i have 100+ private repos

[silent cloak]

Lmao

I am debating on moving after the recent bs

So im probably gonna migrate to a self hosted

[rare bridge]

i wanna upgrade my homelab eventually

[rough bloom]

Tailscale is for networking, ACLs act as a firewall
firewalls don't do anything if you already have SSH access

[rare bridge]

just need a new motherboard i think

[silent cloak]

I need to upgrade the whole thing

Dont got time lately

This is my rare leasure conversation

[rare bridge]

but then i might need new ram, which then i'll need about 5 winning lottery tickets...

[rough bloom]

they made it free around the time when the Microsoft acquisition happened

[broken cipher]

fuck em acls, iptables 4ever

[rare bridge]

i thought that was orgs

[silent cloak]

Lmao

[rare bridge]

orgs couldn't have private repos until then

individuals could have a few i think

[silent cloak]

Cant remember the last year i used iptables directly

[rough bloom]

not sure, could be
definitely wasn't unlimited like it is now

[silent cloak]

Its been like this for atleast 6 years

Imagine GitOS

Every file and write needs to be commited

Swap from ur gaming branch to work branch

[rare bridge]

what if you git committed your nix config and had dedicated branches for work and stuff

[broken cipher]

do you need to commit objects that are being created when commiting?

[rare bridge]

(i am making nixos users cringe)

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/subida-gif-18379274

[rough bloom]

no, someone somewhere is probably doing that

[olive sable]

there is no ssh acces tho

thats disabled rn

[rare bridge]

must take super long to switch branches

[rough bloom]

how tf do you want to deploy anything then

[rough bloom]

usually shouldn't

because cached

-# still a stupid setup

[olive sable]

the ssh would go through the ACL, meaning only certain people can get acces

[rough bloom]

so there is SSH access

[olive sable]

so

its disabled rn

but if i were to enable it

id use

{
  "acls":
  [
    { "action": "accept", "src": ["group:dev"], "dst": ["tag:nas:445"] },
    { "action": "accept", "src": ["group:admin"], "dst": ["tag:nas:22"] }
  ],
  "ssh":
  [
    {
      "action": "accept",
      "src": ["group:admin"],
      "dst": ["tag:nas"],
      "users": ["root", "autogroup:nonroot"]
    }
  ]
}

something like this for example

copy past incompelte

[rough bloom]

I no longer desire to explain the issue

good luck on your homelab sysadmin journey

[broken cipher]

man what is the point of blocking ssh if you still can access the server the other way

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

???

[opaque sigil]

literally unusable library

[tropic spindle]

I am 99.8743% sure you couldn't have a private repo at all as a free user previously

[rare bridge]

such accuracy

[tropic spindle]

I know because I wanted to be able to do that, for I can't remember what

In fact don't orgs still not allow private repos without Premium/Pro/whatever tf they call it?

[rough bloom]

they do

as in, they allow private repos for orgs

[olive sable]

wdym "the other way"?

[maiden geyser]

sounds obsessive

[olive sable]

the other tag doesnt have acces to ssh

[broken cipher]

well you are able to change settings of the acl somehow

[olive sable]

i can just put it in a drive they dont have acces to

i think i see the issue

there is no point in having the other group get acces if they dont have ssh

so then

you have to put the tailscale in a sandbox

and put shiro sever in a different sandbox

NixOS Containers shoudl be fine right?

[patent shard]

nice
if only it didn't have a gazillion firmware issues

putting white around that is really dumb >.>

[olive sable]

my 27gp850 is too not-an-oled to see this

[nocturne olive]

[olive sable]

i notice nothing on my phone either tbh

its just black

[patent shard]

you don't see the ring in the center?

[nocturne olive]

There is obviously a circle there

[olive sable]

thats the ring light for the camera no?

[patent shard]

no

it's a reflection test

[olive sable]

so it is the ringlight

[patent shard]

yeah but to test reflections

other OLED examples

[olive sable]

there are almost no diffuse reflections, and the specular reflection is more than fine

[patent shard]

G6 is def in another league, yeah

obviously matte will be less, this is the QN900F LCD
but the fact the G6 is doing that with glossy is pretty crazy

[olive sable]

its less specualt, more diffuse

less noticable overall, but makes it so nothing is truely black

[high brook]

I read put shiro in a box and got concerned till I realized the context

[olive sable]

im gonna put shiro in a box and ship him to london

[high brook]

Lmao

[fiery canopy]

I actually have time I should probably write the firmware for my next project ngl

[olive sable]

its using 100GB

this is taking ages

[olive sable]

109% cpu usage

[opaque sigil]

[mighty thorn]

Stummy hurt

Also what doing

[olive sable]

compiling vllm

take long

many rams, many cores, but cores slow

2GHz base clock, 3.7GHz boost, seems to be running at 2.7GHz the whole time tho

[tiny edge]

compiling cachyos kernel on nixos 😨

[olive sable]

might be bios settings cuz i didnt want it to be too loud

[olive sable]

why?

keep using nixos

[opaque sigil]

the kernel takes like 5 minutes to compile lol

[mighty thorn]

Yeah

[olive sable]

i think the base stripped down linux kernel is really smoll ye

50MB it seems

Tiny Core Linux offer a bootable base (kernel + basic tools) in the 11–17 MB range

[opaque sigil]

copying path '/nix/store/6sd5ji3bzbksfqf8krc6d4sgydfigrb8-python3.13-vllm-0.16.0' from 'https://cache.nixos-cuda.org'

if only there was way around that

[tiny edge]

been way over 5 minutes now

like 7 minutes

actually 12 minutes

[olive sable]

as long as it isnt docker

[opaque sigil]

depends on how many cores you have available i guess

[olive sable]

40

[tiny edge]

500 cores

[olive sable]

wtf are you using?

[tiny edge]

i5 3470 im kidding

[olive sable]

oh

ye that aint too fast

[opaque sigil]

nix.settings = {
   extra-substituters = [
     "https://cache.flox.dev"
     "https://cache.nixos-cuda.org"
   ];
   extra-trusted-public-keys = [
     "flox-cache-public-1:7F4OyH7ZCnFhcze3fJdfyXYLQw/aV7GEed86nQ7IsOs="
     "cache.nixos-cuda.org:74DUi4Ye579gUqzH4ziL9IyiJBlDpMRn9MBN8oNan9M="
   ];
 };

i don't think they cache 25.11 builds in the nixos-cuda cache tho, would need unstable (which you would want for vllm anyway)

[tiny edge]

FUCK

i got locked out

[olive sable]

the compiling is gonna finish in maybe 5 min anyways if it doesn't slow down too much.
so imma just let it finish

[opaque sigil]

that poor server, suffering for no reason

[olive sable]

the cpus are the cheapest part of this entire thing to be fair

[fiery canopy]

gg

[olive sable]

they're only like 20 bucks each

[fiery canopy]

I am passively reading this whilst working on smthin, this is peak reading material of a channel

[opaque sigil]

oh yeah you might be here for an hour

i feel like the cachy kernel should be cached but i don't feel like checking

[fiery canopy]

it probably is

I would be more so supprised if it isnt

[tiny edge]

ok so from what i see from tty3 it is still compiling i just got kicked out of the session

[fiery canopy]

thats good

[olive sable]

might be the cheapest FCLGA3647 cpu on the used market

[fiery canopy]

ig

[opaque sigil]

oh

the cachy kernel isn't in nixpkgs

guess that explains it

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

value of the ram: 1.2K, value of the gpu: 2.5K, value of the cpus: 30 bucks

[tiny edge]

make your own ram

(reference for those who know)

[fiery canopy]

now what to write the driver in, I could do it also in C but like thats effort. I also could do it in rust but thats also effort

[opaque sigil]

rust purely because i've been looking at rust all day

[fiery canopy]

goat

I have been leaning towardes it

[olive sable]

rust works, but C is the most commonly used for drivers im pretty sure

[fiery canopy]

cas I really cba with anytmore memory shit

[olive sable]

fair

[fiery canopy]

I have been writing the firmware for this shit in C because its emebed shit, and thats pain

[nocturne olive]

What the heck is happening in the room below mine

[fiery canopy]

Working on a stream deck stlye thing, but works like natively on linux

[olive sable]

anything besides construction it seems

[nocturne olive]

These creeps are just screaming some random looping message

[olive sable]

you can make them speak ye

i guess they find it funny

[nocturne olive]

They're also wondering around everywhere

[fiery canopy]

probs just gonna write the UI using flutter or sm shit

as it works

[nocturne olive]

Including surrounding rooms

[olive sable]

some weird pathfinding code

[nocturne olive]

Seem to avoid rooms with other players though

[olive sable]

checks out

[nocturne olive]

Well I have something going on now

[tiny edge]

i should get a i7 3770 next

[fiery canopy]

the annoying bit is that I actually have to build the prototype after writing the code

and then fix the code

and the prototype

at the same time

[olive sable]

i think you should get something not from 2012

ryzen 3000 or 5000 should be cheap

[tiny edge]

mb tho, and ram

i just got a peak cooler and a rx550(2gb, and free)

[olive sable]

it is faster than the 5 3470, but in 2026 it really isnt worth investing in

[fiery canopy]

thats actually preety good for getting the parts for 4 prototypes

Cheaper then my other supplier was gonna be

[olive sable]

there are some i7 3770 on ebay for 11 bucks i guess

[fiery canopy]

ehh only buy it when u fry that one

[tiny edge]

thats like 70brl in brazil, oh ye but with import taxes that goes to 90+

[olive sable]

idk the value of brazilion money

[tiny edge]

and in brazil certainly its the same price or more expensive

[tiny edge]

0.18-0.2usd

[olive sable]

but like, relativley, how much brl is a wage or whatever?

[tiny edge]

kernel is at linking stage atleast

[fiery canopy]

im actually gonna be using my 3d printers soon at last

[tiny edge]

we get 1.6k minimum so thats like 270$?

[olive sable]

thats really low

[tiny edge]

ye

pc building in brazil is expensive

[fiery canopy]

that sounds painful

to

have to deal with

on so many levels

[frozen igloo]

https://youtube.com/shorts/M1-FgfatAeU?si=FsHhQmGx5qDpa8sM
lol Gemini flipped him off

[olive sable]

i feel liek for 70 brl it still isnt worth it to invest in a dead platform from 2012

[fiery canopy]

ye

[tiny edge]

anything more is 400+ like

u have mb, ram, import taxes

pre 2022 pc building was very cheap, importing psrts from china

now it is kinda of a hit or miss

and i5 3470 is still good nowadays

[fiery canopy]

ig so

sounds painful

[tiny edge]

not like i will play AAA games and run full simulations

[fiery canopy]

fe

[olive sable]

ryzen 5 4500 is 45 usd, so 220 brl.
then you'd need a mobo and ddr4 ram
30 usd for a cheap am4 mobo so 147brl, and ddr4 ram, assuming we go really cheap for 16gb 3200 at 10usd, so 50brl

so totals 417 + shipping

not great tbh

[fiery canopy]

whwere tf are u getting ram from 😭

[tiny edge]

ye that isnt real

[fiery canopy]

bruhda

[tiny edge]

ddr4 ram is 800-1.2k brl here

for 16gb

[olive sable]

i have my ways. there's a reason my server has 256gb

[fiery canopy]

I triedf to buy a 16 gig kit recently of 3200. It was gonna cost me 56 gbp lowest

I got my current kit just before prices spiked

So

gg

[tiny edge]

ryzen 4 4500 is 600brl minimum in brazil from ebay

[olive sable]

hmmm

the 4500 isnt even t at great, i mainly picked it cuz it was cheap and then you'd have am4

[tiny edge]

300brl+200 shipping +100(very lowball for import taxes)

in brazil you can find it for 549 in here with no shipping

[olive sable]

thats fucked

[tiny edge]

cheapest am4 mb 320brl

[olive sable]

bruh

[tiny edge]

2x8gb ddr4 800 to 1000

so a 1.7k upgrade

which is kinda the price of my current pc

ddr3 is still expensive, and the psu, and rx 550

[olive sable]

the 4x16gb 3600 sticks that i have in my desktop rn i bought for 100 euro, and they're currently worth 1330 euro

[tiny edge]

damn

2x8gb ddr4 is literally 70% of minimum pay

[olive sable]

bruh

[tiny edge]

the avg in brazil prob is around 2-3.5k a month dunno, still very expensive

[olive sable]

someone make a go-fund-me for this poor guy stuck in 2012

[fiery canopy]

ong

[tiny edge]

it aint that bad

[olive sable]

it is

[tiny edge]

i can still play all games i have

mostly because i cant buy any-

[olive sable]

do you only have pacman and the pinbal game for win 95?

[fiery canopy]

tbf till august of last year I was on a intel i5 6400, with very low speed ram, so it can be made work if u know wat ur doing

that is wrose then what I had tho

so

gg

[tiny edge]

i was only i5 3470 with no gpu before this

[fiery canopy]

gg

[olive sable]

on linux it probably isnt too bad since there's way less bloat

but still

[tiny edge]

and i made it run zomboid as a host with mods

[fiery canopy]

Linux is a must

[olive sable]

ye

[tiny edge]

truly

[fiery canopy]

goat

Its the reason I know linux so well

lmfao

cas

[tiny edge]

tho it did kill my last psu doing that

[fiery canopy]

not smort or meta

[tiny edge]

but it was a cheap one anyways

[fiery canopy]

fe

writing in rust compared to c is nice

[tiny edge]

1 hour and still compiling the kernel

[fiery canopy]

goated

I need to wokr out wats eating my mem

[vague sonnet]

why would you write in either of those
when c++ exists

[tiny edge]

everything

[tiny edge]

get this guy out of here

[fiery canopy]

personally would just not

C++ has its uses

but for what im writing it does not

makes sense

[tiny edge]

shit i will lose all progress

thats sad

[olive sable]

Maximum core temperature 67 °C
huh, im used to seeing like 100C on cpus. seeing 67 on that i5 3470 feels weird

[vague sonnet]

how would C ever be better what

[fiery canopy]

I am writing embeded stuff

so

yes C is better

[vague sonnet]

bleh

[fiery canopy]

I am currently writing the driver, which I am doing in rust

there are reasons to each of my choices for good reasons, and come from a reaosnble amount of experience

[olive sable]

300 euro is 1.739 brl

[fiery canopy]

also in all right why are u questioning someone elses language choice

[tiny edge]

my max temp on my i5 3470 is 55C

[tiny edge]

100% at max frequence

[olive sable]

my pc is already at 70C rn

[fiery canopy]

gg

[tiny edge]

i think the cooler is a bit op for it

[fiery canopy]

better to overcool then undercool

neither of those are words

[olive sable]

ye

[fiery canopy]

but it makes snse

[tiny edge]

which cpu?

[olive sable]

i have my fan curve set to only put actual effort in at 80C

[olive sable]

5950x

[tiny edge]

damn

[fiery canopy]

my cpu chilling at a nice temp of 58*C at abt 30% usage

I need to clean the cooler

thats a tmrw job tho

cas its normally at abt 54

[tiny edge]

i5 3470 tdp is 77w my cooler is 100w

[olive sable]

my room is jsut generally warm rn, and the server exhaust is in the direction of my desktop

[fiery canopy]

gg

I currently have both my windows open

to cool my room

[tiny edge]

seems kinda like a bad idea

[olive sable]

its somewhat temporary

[fiery canopy]

random code snippet

[olive sable]

but nothing is as permanent as a temporary solution

[fiery canopy]

so real

[tiny edge]

no more playing with playstation1 graphics now that i have rx550

[olive sable]

now you have

ps2

[tiny edge]

not really

[olive sable]

you get the emotion engine

[tiny edge]

i can run warthunder at max graphics at 60fps

[olive sable]

im pretty sure the rx550 is between ps3 and ps4 somewhere

[tiny edge]

which doesnt seem too much, its warthunder, but considering i was running on extremely low at 14fps

[tiny edge]

dunno

gpus are great

[olive sable]

it is ye, just checked

[tiny edge]

you dont need anything past a 1080ti for good gaming

[olive sable]

i guess ye

[fiery canopy]

I am like 80% done with this driver

fun

[olive sable]

[fiery canopy]

I am probably gonna have to fix over half of this later

[tiny edge]

any game that requires more is bad afterall lol

[fiery canopy]

when I have the prototype

infront of me

[tiny edge]

spoiler: you wont

[fiery canopy]

ehh

It will either work

or it wont

or it will be broken in the most obscene way possible

[tiny edge]

or it will be working barely

[olive sable]

eh

in the big 26, with games like res evil 9

[tiny edge]

mid game

[olive sable]

no

its decent

[tiny edge]

whats the min specs?

and recommended

[olive sable]

the minimum means patato graphics tho

[tiny edge]

hell no

horrible game

read additional

[olive sable]

what do you expect?

this is a triple AAA game, it wont run too well on a 2060

you said a 1080ti

1080ti is 30% better

[tiny edge]

this game aint good if even the recomended needs heavy upscaling

[olive sable]

bro

be realistic here

its res evil 9

it does 1080p low setting on a 1080ti at 100fps

its not gonna do high settings

but the 1080ti is 9 years older than the game

i get that lack of optimization is an issue in the current gaming industry, i would know im a gamedev.
but just because an old gpu cant run a game doesnt mean its bad

[mighty thorn]

God I wanna be rich and have 16x B200 GPU cluster as my personal ai playground, like shadow

[tiny edge]

pretty much it does, a game is not only visuals, as you say yourself, if a studio focus on visuals with no optimization so it cuts the playerbase, it is a bad game

[olive sable]

no

you're wrong

[kindred perch]

I played re9 on 1650

[olive sable]

there's the difference between visuals, optimization, and having optimized visuals

[kindred perch]

2k, Low but 60-70 fps

Even in low it looks good

[olive sable]

you cant expect 9th gen visuals while keeping the game playable on 7th gen hardware

[mighty thorn]

$100/hr to rent

[kindred perch]

Btw in this market what's the affordable yet powerful gpu?

[olive sable]

7900xtx

[kindred perch]

In Nvidia?

[olive sable]

uh

there is none

[kindred perch]

Lol

[kindred perch]

This is equivalent to which rtx cards?

I don't have knowledge on RX cards

[olive sable]

its between 3090 and 4090

for half the price

[mighty thorn]

Ignore them

[kindred perch]

Ohh

[mighty thorn]

3060 12gb or 5060ti 16gb

[olive sable]

no

[mighty thorn]

Or 3090

[olive sable]

nooo

[mighty thorn]

Those are your three options

[olive sable]

kaine

[kindred perch]

30 series are bit old

[olive sable]

3090 is 1K, 7900xtx is FASTER and 650

you dentge

[kindred perch]

Is there new gen coming? In rtx?

[olive sable]

not anytime soon

[mighty thorn]

Suspiciously non-cuda shaped amd

[kindred perch]

I heard they're making just AI chips

[olive sable]

fuck your cuda

all my homies hate cuda

[mighty thorn]

Okay well some will try and get you to buy T100 which are way way way older

[kindred perch]

How much vram does this have?

[mighty thorn]

So this is objectively a new option

[olive sable]

24gb

[kindred perch]

Holy shit

Damn

[olive sable]

3060 is alright, but imo not really worth it compared to 7900xtx

im multitaskign and getting confused

[kindred perch]

Is there 4070 or 4070ti equivalent but in half price? Like RX?

[tiny edge]

thats the point

[olive sable]

RE9 is optimized

[mighty thorn]

Yeah

If ur okay with it not working

*for ai

[olive sable]

rx 7800xt probably

[frozen igloo]

Ow my toe

[mighty thorn]

That’s a large toe

[tiny edge]

when the minimal uses heavy upscaling to be playable and so does the recommended, doesnt seem so much

[olive sable]

the minimum graphics thing they show on steam is exegerated, you dont need upscalign on a 1080ti

you can find people playing it online on all kinds of hardware

[mighty thorn]

I wonder if dual GPU will make a comeback for upscaling and frame gen

[tiny edge]

except when they put 640p to 1080p upscaling as recommended for minimal

[mighty thorn]

Run 120fps 1440p then display at 240fps 4k

[tiny edge]

no

dual gpu is horrible

2x the price for at best 50% the improvement

[mighty thorn]

Someone didn’t read the last 5 words of that sentence

[olive sable]

https://youtu.be/odLZPJPnigE?si=TLxYZ4RtgH4xeuyw&t=508

brother

you can see upscaling is off

120fps

on a 1080ti on low settings

re9 is genuinly well optimized

you're dying on a hill that doesnt exist

no, it wont do high settings, or more than 1080p, on a 1080ti

but the gpu is 9 years old

you cant expect a ps4 to play ps5 games without compromises

[mighty thorn]

Every pixel is one 1/1080th of the GPU

[olive sable]

[tiny edge]

it does high settings tho kinda its in the video, 90fps 1% lows 41fps

and still, that proves my point further

[olive sable]

1% lows at 41fps is unplayable for a fastpaced game liek res evil 9

[tiny edge]

no good game needs more than a 1080ti

[olive sable]

eh

[tiny edge]

really? i played fastpaced at 30fps for years and saw no problem

[olive sable]

[tiny edge]

well ofc i did but wqsnt unplayable

it was decent, 40fps is way better, 50 amazing, 60 perfect

[patent shard]

maybe for 1080p
but a 1080ti is around a 5050 in performance.. it's not powerful by today's standards

[tiny edge]

plus its 1% lows, not the avg, and 41 doesnt seem bad of a drop

[tiny edge]

it is

[olive sable]

1080ti in todays standarts is kinda like "if it runs at all its good enough"

3060ti is the actual baseline

[patent shard]

except 3060ti only has 8gb of vram

[olive sable]

yes

1080ti has 11.34 TFLOPS, 3060ti has 16.2 TFLOPS

[patent shard]

it's about 25% more powerful, yeah

[olive sable]

triple A studios are going for good graphics on modern cards. they don't really care whether a really old pc can run it since its a modern game designed for modern pcs.
the "low" settings are only there to make sure laptops can play it

if you tell a studio that their game doesn't run well, they tell you to get a better pc

[tiny edge]

the low seems more like a placebo than really low

[tiny edge]

in fact many did lol

like EA

[olive sable]

they change the textures to lower res, use lower res models, and do more agressive LOD

also cheaper post-processing

i think low setting feels like placebo cuz at that point you're cpu bound so the only real difference is vram usage and if you look really close

[mighty thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1422537017006227466/neuro_weed.gif

[tiny edge]

idk re9 low the textures looked kinda the same high quality

[olive sable]

cuz you're viewing it on a 1080p screen, on youtube with compression

trust me, you can see it

[amber fractal]

Let the great signon begin

[olive sable]

what is the invalid one?

[amber fractal]

Android

[olive sable]