Honestly not the worst one ive seen though
#programming
silent cloak
Most are far far worse and unorganized
Its really easy to make them hell to read and follow
olive sable
sage crag
olive sable
olive sable
instead of procrastinating my work all day, i did it this morning from 8am till 10am 
this was work i planned for yesterday evening tho but thats mere details
its due by this evening so now i have a free day
silent cloak
All i do is procrastinate these days
silent cloak
Im planning on spending a large amount of money on some equipment to monitor my brain activity
sage crag
olive sable
why no ba?
sage crag
silent cloak
Rigged
sage crag
silent cloak
Why is it C++ though
Instead of C+
Does that imply a between version exists
Shouldnt the extra plus upgrade the C to a B
sage crag
olive sable
why C++?
silent cloak
They skipped C+
olive sable
do other ones in the family not get ++?
rough bloom
Shouldnt the extra plus upgrade the C to a B
they didn't invent other letters yet
silent cloak
It foretold the C++ team coming up with dumb ways to do things
olive sable
so you got
A
B
C, C++, C#
D
E
F, F#, F*
J
K
M
P, P"
Q
R
S
V
Z
tender river
none of the above
silent cloak
Tf is F*
olive sable
we're missing G, H, I, L, N, O, T, U, W, X, and Y
olive sable
Tf is F*
F*: A functional programming language aimed at program verification
"F star"
amber fractal
Doesn't O exist or am I tripping
olive sable
P'': A primitive formal language that served as the theoretical basis for Brainfuck
amber fractal
I know R is real, that I've heard about a nonzero amount of times
silent cloak
R and D
Probablg the least known but used of the bunch
Well that arent the well known or esoteric ones
Ive been meaning to look into D
Heard its like C#
amber fractal
we're missing G, H, I, L, N, O, T, U, W, X, and Y
If I make a chip, gotta make the dedicated compute language be Y
olive sable
The O language is a system programming language crafted to be remarkably simple and flexible. It stands not as a replacement for C, but rather as a complementary counterpart, as both can coexist within the same source code. O language boasts minimal abstraction, ensuring seamless integration with C and almost predictable machine code.
olang is a deterministic system language that follows tree principles:
fights complexity by providing a simple syntax with a low level of abstraction
doesn't babysit programmers it gives you the freedom of shooting your own foot
aims easy maintainability by providing a syntax with a low refactoring overhead.
Notice
This software is unfinished and not production ready.
so O does exist, kinda
silent cloak
Peak
amber fractal
Honestly doesn't seen that bad these days
rough bloom
```
The O language is a system programming language crafted to be remarkably sim...
but rather as a complementary counterpart, as both can coexist within the same source code
fast pagoda
The Chad olang vs the virgin golang
tender river
<:neuroScared2:1379172663091658872>
slop writing
fast pagoda
Dictated but not read, the olang shadow council
fast pagoda
Good ol Johnny dick
silent cloak
John OLang
fast pagoda
Dick johnson
olive sable
johny dick o lang
silent cloak
Oreo coding
fast pagoda
I propose that practitioners of this Olang be deemed 'olangutans'
silent cloak
Peak
opaque wharf
I am AB- 
olive sable
fast pagoda
Do not hate me mother
opaque wharf
I know R is real, that I've heard about a nonzero amount of times
R is used a lot in statistics
silent cloak
Less hated matlab
opaque wharf
Do not hate me mother
That's crazy. That's actually insane 🐢
I should restart more often after running pacman syu
olive sable
imagine restarting 
silent cloak
imagine restarting <:NeuroClueless:1072901352902103100>
Ok, im imagining it
What next
olive sable
wait for it to boot
in that time spent waiting, think how cool it would be if you didn't have to reboot by just using nixos
opaque wharf
Is it just me or KDE startup is really slow now
silent cloak
in that time spent waiting, think how cool it would be if you didn't have to reb...
Maybe if they sponsor me
Nixos is kind of the nordvpn ad of the programing channel
opaque wharf
in that time spent waiting, think how cool it would be if you didn't have to reb...
How do you replace the running kernel
rough bloom
in that time spent waiting, think how cool it would be if you didn't have to reb...
I have bad news
you still have to restart 
olive sable
nuh-uh
opaque wharf
Unless you enable kernel hot patch
amber fractal
Updated the kernel have to restart to apply changes 
opaque wharf
And now my internet is acting up
olive sable
i wanna run some slop on my server while i still have the 4090
so i dont have to keep looking at token counts of the websites while the shit i ask them gets harvested
fast pagoda
Hot n active patch
opaque wharf
Unless you enable kernel hot patch
Which is god damn it looks brittle af
amber fractal
Unless you enable kernel hot patch
Or you manage to get that kernel side by side code working and migrate over. Give it 10 years to maybe be usable.
amber fractal
fast pagoda
ever since i became aware of myself and my shortcomings mother has ensured i do not forget
sage crag
survival of the fittest
silent cloak
Survival of the shittest
opaque wharf
Oh, I just realized I sat very close to 230V AC
sage crag
opaque wharf
fast pagoda
leg leak
amber fractal
Large wire leak
trim valve
How do you replace the running kernel <:enub:1163912230585237655>
kexec 
silent cloak
I can see the heat fade on that metal
sage crag
glass jetty
meow
opaque wharf
230VAC just a touch away
tender river
kni try it
sage crag
sage crag
tender river
mindset NOT changed
silent cloak
When people msg me it i just reply with a tf2 gif of them getting punched
amber fractal
When people msg me it i just reply with a tf2 gif of them getting punched
I would do that if I did that with every colon three, but that has other issues in my case
fast pagoda
high fidelity
silent cloak
Indeed
fast pagoda
https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2-sfm-team-fortress2-sourcefilmmaker-gif-18587844
here
i ffixed it for you
glass jetty
you just create Pin<ptr>, use it once,
but after this Pin<ptr> borrow, you can just move variable that you pinned, and create new pin
let u = Unpined::new();
let p = pin!(u); //hide unsafe code btw
p.use_pin_self_func();
let m = u;
let p = pin!(m); //hide unsafe code btw
p.use_pin_self_func();
horrible horrible
glass jetty
https://docs.rs/pin-project-lite/
you are third ppl to recommend it
tender river
glass jetty
currently this pinning is worst thing in rust ive seen
no really why i cant create Pin<T> once, so Pin::new() consume object
for non-copy types that would be it, code above will deny on let m = u
tender river
you can though?
Pin::new is a marker type for a pointer, not a container
you can create Pin::new out of any pointer type
like &mut T, Box<T>, Arc<T>
glass jetty
and Box is allocation
tender river
yes, you can do &mut T if you dont want allocations
glass jetty
why not just contain any T and then pass to methods
glass jetty
```rust
let u = Unpined::new();
let p = pin!(u); //hide unsafe code btw
p.use_pi...
compiles just fine with mut
tender river
Pin is a marker type for pointers, not an actual container, because it leaves the storage up to you
glass jetty
if you need to move storage
just dont create as pinned; pin only when you start to use
tender river
?
you wouldnt be able to control where Pin is stored
Box::new(Pin::new(x)) already contains a move
you move Pin from where you created it into the box
glass jetty
why not just
let p : Pin<MyFuture> = Pin::new(/*move*/myFuture);
no really why it is not container
it has to be same size as T
glass jetty
so, why is it Pin<Box<>> and not Box<Pin<>>?
one would be owning and one just ptr
that not the same
tender river
remember that Pin itself has to be stored either on the stack or in the heap
Pin can be moved around, because it can be passed to functions as an argument
but whats inside Pin stays at the same location
since Pin can be moved around but its contents cant be moved around, it has to wrap a pointer
glass jetty
so why not &Pin<T> or &mut Pin<T>
why Pin<&mut T>
glass jetty
```rust
let u = Unpined::new();
let p = pin!(u); //hide unsafe code btw
p.use_pi...
i not see why it should only cover ptr when this case is possible
making it owning would solve issue at roots
it only needed to mark that any assign is forbidden
tender river
so why not &Pin<T> or &mut Pin<T>
why Pin<&mut T>
so, yes, you want &mut Pin<T> or Box<Pin<T>>
- how would you create that
Box<Pin<T>>, if you cant movePin<T>? - how would
Pinguarantee that it doesnt get moved? currently, it takes ownership of a pointer, so that pointer cant possibly change; it also only allows access to its non-Unpincontents viaPinpointers, not via&mutpointers.
glass jetty
so, yes, you want `&mut Pin<T>` or `Box<Pin<T>>`
1. how would you create that `B...
pin itself is language trick
box itself is std that compiler aware of
- just hard code it
- make std attribute that allow creating Box<Pin>
Box::pin(mv : T)->Box<Pin<T>>{
// whatever builtin in single call
// or
let pin = Pin::new(mv); // move
#[std_allow_move_pin]
Box::new(pin) //move
}
tender river
no 
tender river
there are many of user-created pointer types
Pin also mostly isnt compiler magic
its something that was already possible
also attributes are never used like that in rust
not to mention im pretty sure expr attributes are unstable
basically, your solution wouldnt solve any problems at all
it would only create them
olive sable
where is the pointcloud script?
found it
tender river
it would only create them
for example
if there is mut Pin<A> and mut Pin<B>, you can just mem::swap them
it's allowed
if they wrap a pointer, this is actually ok
if they wrap contents, this breaks everything
there are a billion issues like that with your approach
you want compiler magic, but theres no clear reason for it to be added when the existing solution already works very well and your solution has no benefits over the existing one
glass jetty
seems like it still possible to break everything just by adding something at safe side
but it kinda impossible on user side
can write unsafe that rely on reasonable definitions in safe in current crate
ok that make more sense for it to be ptr
but it still kinda 
jagged turtle
HOW DOES DOCKER DESKTOP ITSELF TAKE UP 3.5GB OF STORAGE
sage crag
but it still kinda <:neuroBwaa:1244489317204627457>
th
garbage collector
betrer than ownership rules
olive sable
where can i find someone with a mac to see if our unity build works for mac?
olive sable
im not going anywhere near there
it was a question asked here with the intent to find someone here who could
umbral wigeon
nothing, I'm just sharing my stuffs
glass jetty
How do I read this
wtf
lua have typescript sibling?
umbral wigeon
I'm trying to compare legacy code with new code
trim valve
wtf
lua have typescript sibling?
luau is actually kinda nice
umbral wigeon
wtf
lua have typescript sibling?
It's basically javascript with optional typescript
glass jetty
lua is not javascript
trim valve
glass jetty
lua is just different script language
trim valve
you can transpile typescript to lua
olive sable
lua is not javascript
thats why its called lua and not javascript
umbral wigeon
I'm using luau
glass jetty
you can transpile typescript to lua
surely, i wonder is there any actual project that did it
i not like oop on meta tables
trim valve
surely, i wonder is there any actual project that did it
i not like oop on meta ...
lol
glass jetty
omg ok
umbral wigeon
A lot of people hate react in devforum community, because they don't how to use it
Most devs like to have pre-made UI assets and use it
jagged turtle
they also ported react
because why not
rough bloom
where can i find someone with a mac to see if our unity build works for mac?
@rigid snow mabe
otherwise AWS has some
$1 per hour
cheap
-# have to rent for 24h at a time though
jagged turtle
someone plz help
rough bloom
have you tried a ladder
rigid snow
<@383112840229158923> mabe
okay but i’m busy, maybe tonight
rough bloom
@olive sable mac person found 
glass zinc
glass jetty
olive sable
it has to be handed in before midnight today
so ill just ship it probably
if it doesnt work its on the unity compiler
rough bloom
hard delta
How to care
rough bloom
so ill just ship it probably
ye it'll probably just work™
unless you do something platform-specific
glass jetty
How to care
how to love 
glass jetty
How to care
wtf it even means
jagged turtle
How to care
???
glass jetty
how to care
there no solution
hard delta
damn
jagged turtle
how to care
leave this channel
olive sable
the linux and windows build work, surely apple silicon isnt too different
glass jetty
leave this channel
hard delta
glass jetty
tbh, you are in programming not in general or NN
hard delta
tbh, you are in programming not in general or NN
that's why it's so relevant tbh
jagged turtle
that's why it's so relevant tbh
???
glass jetty
sage crag
rough bloom
i built all 3 from my linux
ye I assume it just uses a prebuilt player executable then, no il2cpp or anything
so should really be fine as long as you don't have any native dependencies
hard delta
i've never seen people intentionally focus on coding, related skills, or improving them
they either have infinite motivation all day sent straight from the gods and they can't explain why
or they cannot for the love of god pay attention or finish anything
jagged turtle
he not care that it is programming
lmao
hard delta
he not care that it is programming
you tried 
rough bloom
he not care that it is programming
baking
jagged turtle
i've never seen people intentionally focus on coding, related skills, or improvi...
they either have infinite motivation all day sent straight from the gods and they can't explain why
aka, focusing
olive sable
<:Hmm:889032126622728192> ye I assume it just uses a prebuilt player executable ...
you need to "switch profile" we already confirmed the linux and windows build work perfectly fine
glass jetty
i've never seen people intentionally focus on coding, related skills, or improvi...
i just have list
opaque wharf
the linux and windows build work, surely apple silicon isnt too different
You would think so but nope....
rough bloom
you need to "switch profile" we already confirmed the linux and windows build wo...
ye seems fine then 
glass jetty
tho this list only getting bigger and bigger
it was just 'learn rust'
now its like 10 items
rough bloom
ye seems fine then <a:neuroBlankies:1134906690907668590>
blame on hardware issue if it doesn't work
hard delta
>they either have infinite motivation all day sent straight from the gods and th...
that's the thing tho
i've never seen people focus with and by effort
either it's effortless cause they're having fun or it doesn't happen
olive sable
blame on hardware issue if it doesn't work
opaque wharf
"But prof, it works on my machine"
jagged turtle
that's the thing tho
i've never seen people focus with and by effort
either it's...
???
something can require effort and be fun at the same time
olive sable
we do be gaming 
glass jetty
btw, talking about effort and fun
i really not know what to change or what to add that have significant affect on type system itself
hard delta
something can require effort and be fun at the same time
in cases like this, the focus usually arises because there's fun, and the effort doesn't go into creating/upholding focus, but into something else 
jagged turtle
what the fuck am I looking at
jagged turtle
in cases like this, the focus usually arises because there's fun, and the effort...
???
olive sable
we do be gaming <a:autismu:1451002436046291116>
it detect how many controllers are connected to change the split-screen and such. im quite proud of that part 
jagged turtle
bro I'mma ask gpt to explain what you're saying atp you're not really making sense /hj
olive sable
ok now its slop time
kindred perch
Guys is it a good idea to put your own images in your portfolio?
olive sable
ok now its slop time <:neuroHypers:1135051812722982922>
how do i put an llm on my server? 
kindred perch
by own images I mean face
kindred perch
how do i put an llm on my server? <:hmm:1303107376295186524>
EC2?
oh wait
ollama is good
stark needle
how do i put an llm on my server? <:hmm:1303107376295186524>
Vllm
glass jetty
ollama is good
one that recently had some sort of cve?
stark needle
Use vllm or sglang
jagged turtle
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
stark needle
Everything else is cope
olive sable
ill try vllm i guess
kindred perch
ill try vllm i guess
what llm did you make?
rough bloom
llama.cpp nice because simple setup
olive sable
what llm did you make?
nothing yet
rough bloom
but ye vllm or sglang are good
stark needle
llama.cpp nice because simple setup
Poor performance for serving many requests
Int8 instead of fp8 kv cache
olive sable
i requested my discord messages, and im gonna train a slop to use my bad limited vocabulary
rough bloom
1 request
jagged turtle
i requested my discord messages, and im gonna train a slop to use my bad limited...
lol
stark needle
i requested my discord messages, and im gonna train a slop to use my bad limited...
Bro is coding his own replacement
olive sable
when i dont know something in gonna ask sam van slop, and its gonne tell me it dont know either
trim valve
i requested my discord messages, and im gonna train a slop to use my bad limited...
I'm also tempted to try this but my messages would be so bad 😭
olive sable
glass jetty
again talks about ai
olive sable
i mean, im pretty sure i dont have anything to hide in my messages
i dont think ive been too weird
jagged turtle
i requested my discord messages, and im gonna train a slop to use my bad limited...
I would do this to fire back responses any time someone pings me in a friend group server
because some people don't understand what being busy means
(frustration boils over because last night they pinged me just to code review a FUCKING AMONG US MOD OF ALL THINGS)
olive sable
shut up
-# message sent from iSlop
glass jetty
hard delta
honestly i'd rather be pinged with stupid stuff than forgotten for weeks because of fnf mods 
(and that's at least 30% about the game modded, lel)
trim valve
I'm also tempted to try this but my messages would be so bad 😭
last I checked I think I was on 160k messages total?
olive sable
im waiting for discord to send me the email
i have the data from last october still tho
trim valve
I did mine a while ago because I was considering deleting my account
olive sable
hard delta
i had one of an old acc but then deleted it
it wasn't worth much with only my messages being in there, no context
olive sable
I did mine a while ago because I was considering deleting my account
that would mean no more bred 
trim valve
hard delta
there's tools to get whole two-sided readable DM histories tho
trim valve
no more bred would be useful, this account is way too doxxable as it stands
glass jetty
arent you can just remove all msges?
olive sable
are you named owobred everywhere perhaps?
olive sable
true
rough bloom
olive sable
actually dont reply
trim valve
hard delta
<:neuroBread:1245345798296703096>
that was the last piece of the puzzle
now i know
you're... linus
hard delta
generate neurobread tech debt by repo-rizzing the tech dept
trim valve
are you named owobred everywhere perhaps?
this reminded me of a funny fact
jagged turtle
generate neurobread tech debt by repo-rizzing the tech dept
what 💀
hard delta
think oracle, just neuro bread
trim valve
you can actually see in my minecraft skin history where gender hit
jagged turtle
<:vedalWow:1343810742989623296>
Big Bread™ has started jacking up prices of the neuroBread
it cost me 20 neuros just to eat a neuroBread
economy is in crisis
hard delta
is it
mighty thorn
no more bred would be useful, this account is way too doxxable as it stands
I used to have that problem
Like a lot
jagged turtle
neuro stock is feeding into pocket of big bread
I am poor here
I only have 
x10 to my name
each neuroBread is 2 of my gone
need cheaper food
hard delta
have you considered switching to a diet of ddr5 ram
trim valve
but yeah idk what im meant to do about old stuff linking me to irl
hard delta
trim valve
other than 
jagged turtle
have you considered switching to a diet of ddr5 ram
ddr5 ram cost more neuros
hard delta
banana 2026?
jagged turtle
me already about to need to starve
opaque wharf
i dont think ive been too weird
True. I am the weird one
rough bloom
other than <:neuroNuke:1136489026577252382> <:neuroBread:1245345798296703096>
ye necessary
or pester support to remove stuff if possible, but not always the case
jagged turtle
stark needle
i dont think ive been too weird
Bro
olive sable
yes?
trim valve
ye <:neuroNuke:1136489026577252382> necessary
jagged turtle
or pester support to remove stuff if possible, but not always the case
attempting to pester discord support is like hitting your head at a brick wall
it'll cause you lots of head pain
olive sable
if bred dissapeared one day that would be sad
opaque wharf
attempting to pester discord support is like hitting your head at a brick wall
Ahhh this reminds me I need to pester my government more
trim valve
from what I've seen discord isn't too bad if you follow their rules
trim valve
if bred dissapeared one day that would be sad
who knows, my indecicive ass might return eventually
jagged turtle
Ahhh this reminds me I need to pester my government more
for WHAT
of all things
oops caps
trim valve
its suprisingly hard to fully disappear from a name
jagged turtle
🤮 tax
leaden crest
Chat is this real, they are doing sports betting at my workplace now
my friends bet on whether or not a certain few middle east countries would go to war
trim valve
one of my many accounts I was considering pivoting to had its protonmail account deleted
incredible
olive sable
i see no issue with that statement
stark needle
i see no issue with that statement
There's worse
olive sable
oh
i think that was when i ate chinese
ye i wasnt kidding
i really did eat some frogs
opaque wharf
i think that was when i ate chinese
You just keep digging further and further
real sierra
sam decided his blackmail folder was too light I guess
leaden crest
sam decided his blackmail folder was too light I guess
shiro how big is your #cd2edb-mail folder
real sierra
this is like level 1 ragebait tho
trim valve
real sierra
you gotta get some practice in nn
trim valve
fun fact
sage crag
i am mascot
leaden crest
you gotta get some practice in nn
sir yes sir
sage crag
trim valve
but only in some ui fields
kind fable
steam truncates your password to 64ch if its over that length
does it refuse stuff like spaces tabs and newlines ?
wait
olive sable
i am mascot
hi mascot, im sam
kind fable
cause if so very funni
real sierra
is the hash still of the full password
trim valve
password[:64]
olive sable
sage crag
hi mascot, im sam
real sierra
or is it truncated when you submit it in any password field
real sierra
why have you done this to me while I'm on public transit
stark needle
Ok @olive sable i think my message history is 10x worse than yours
olive sable
i know
trim valve
does it refuse stuff like spaces tabs and newlines ?
idk i didn't test
real sierra
some complain that its overlength
???
olive sable
Ok <@635476518692454420> i think my message history is 10x worse than yours
thats why im making an llm of myself and you're not
real sierra
does the sign up field truncate it or complain
kind fable
idk i didn't test
try it and tell me
cobalt moon
why have you done this to me while I'm on public transit
To be fair you should have learned your lesson after you said the same thing yesterday
real sierra
if it truncates then there's a huge problem here
leaden crest
why have you done this to me while I'm on public transit
TAKE NOTES
SHIRO IS IN PUBLIC TRANSIT AT THIS TIME
real sierra
To be fair you should have learned your lesson after you said the same thing yes...
ok that was nn, this is programming
leaden crest
EVERY DAY AROUND THIS TIME BE AS GRAPHICALLY WEIRD AS POSSIBLE
cobalt moon
Oh right my bad
olive sable
rough bloom
SHIRO IS IN PUBLIC TRANSIT AT THIS TIME
trim valve
does the sign up field truncate it or complain
pretty sure it truncates
its fine I just had to take the last 8 characters off my saved password lol
olive sable
did i do that?
doesnt feel like something id do?
but the gpu does fit
im pretty sure the 3090 i sent to superbox was that deisng
trim valve
sam great idea, train an image generation model off of every image you've ever sent
surely that will go smoothly
olive sable
half of it is gonna be liminal space gamedev and triangle shit
other half is gonna be desktop
and maybe 5% irl pictures
trim valve
sage crag
trim valve
i might actually have to go through discord support soon
sage crag
destroy pc gif
trim valve
painn
olive sable
my discord data has arrived
trim valve
i might actually have to go through discord support soon
oh even better
discord don't let you
even better
leaden crest
leaden crest
my discord data has arrived <:neuroHypers:1135051812722982922>
its much bigger than you think it is
opaque wharf
and maybe 5% irl pictures
sage crag
where crime
tender river
arrest
sage crag
trim valve
DISCOOOORD
trim valve
tender river
"lost access to your email? too bad 
"
olive sable
tender river
short
sage crag
trim valve
wrrr
tender river
hello janna
leaden crest
hi janna
tender river
michael
sage crag
rats is not fish
tender river
opaque sigil
e
olive sable
i shoudl probably put a filter on it to make sure there are no words in there banned in neurocord
rough bloom
<a:mhm:1475291237022957630> ye
idk
sage crag
olive sable
opaque sigil
is the hash still of the full password
fun fact, bcrypt caps out at 72 bytes
sage crag
cat
trim valve
waa i don't wanna
tender river
sage crag
:GayBar::owobred:
trim valve
sage crag
<:neuroWhat:1136096792275075122>
sage crag
[
opaque sigil
olive sable
ok im running my discord messages through from better_profanity import profanity this thing
just to be sure
trim valve
is that to weight the ones with profanity higher in the training data
olive sable
i need to make sure it doesnt say slurs
trim valve
rigid snow
how is `stupid` in their profanity list?
you can’t say that
opaque sigil
jagged turtle
https://www.businessinsider.com/claude-code-creator-boris-cherny-vibe-coding-ant...
how about brainless slopping
that better
stark needle
just to be sure
Bro go all in or go home
jagged turtle
?
olive sable
Bro go all in or go home
i dont want sam van slop to be a biggot
even if the base model has that, i want the finetune to be a chill guy
stark needle
i dont want sam van slop to be a biggot
I want my ai to say this
opaque wharf
fun fact, bcrypt caps out at 72 bytes
Argon2 ftw
rigid snow
burned myself with a toast
opaque wharf
"lost access to your email? too bad <:neuroWAJAJA:1328963855698886716>"
Real. My case is just renaming my domain but I cannot be arsed to put up a tmp redirect
opaque wharf
i need to make sure it doesnt say slurs
Fr*nch
rigid snow
olive sable
its frustrating how single threaded this code is
opaque sigil
semantic analysis on the gpu
trim valve
sam dump all your messages into a text file and feed that into an llm with a giant context window
or chunk it
rigid snow
-$50 in inference
olive sable
ok it outputted the full lsit of swearwords, and some of them it caught are litteraly opengl function calls
olive sable
numbers too? they banned numbers? i misspelled VFX once it seems too
- dataset_max_seq_len: 1
- dynamic_len_handler: 1
- 7175: 1
- 7171: 1
- line_strip: 1
- triangle_strip: 1
- gl_triangle_strip: 2
- 50b: 1
- a55: 1
- fvx: 1
the ones with strip make somewhat sense i guess
the word len seems to just be flagged on its own
reading these, a lot more words are profanity than i thought.
glass jetty
<a:mhm:1475291237022957630> ye
ONE make use CUZ now tho
mighty thorn
i dont want sam van slop to be a biggot
Wait are you cloning yourself?
olive sable
it flagged meth
- meth_class: 1
- meth_static: 1
yes
mighty thorn
yes
Idk how much you want to be your own but I’ve got both halves of the puzzle assembled already and am more than willing to send either one to you
Plus a secret third half that I’m working on currently
olive sable
yaoi got flagged twice 
olive sable
Idk how much you want to be your own but I’ve got both halves of the puzzle asse...
i basically just need to figure out what basemodel to use, how to finetune this thing, how to put it into a discord bot, and how to make it react and type and such
i jsut heard a windows sound
im on linux
wut
mighty thorn
i basically just need to figure out what basemodel to use, how to finetune this ...
So you already handled getting the data off of discord?
olive sable
yes
mighty thorn
Did you get full conversations or did you just flatly export your messages with discord data export?
mighty thorn
Ah
midnight sigil
<:neurOMEGALUL:1097297318119743638> it flagged meth
```
- meth_class: 1
- meth...
my beloved MPD classes
mighty thorn
data export
Well I’d recommend trying by full finetuning Gemma 3 270m instruct so you can play around with formatting, hyperparameters, training settings, parsing, callback scoring, etc etc, then switching to a LoRA on a base model around 1-4b for a real beta, then maybe scaling up but not really that useful unless you have like a shit ton of data to use
stark needle
Well I’d recommend trying by full finetuning Gemma 3 270m instruct so you can pl...
Gemma 3 270m is shit no?
Only 100M active params
olive sable
im not gonna send the whole thing cuz im still afraid of getting banned, but none of these are career ending
i actually have a good explenation for all of them
mighty thorn
Gemma 3 270m is shit no?
Yes but not for the absolute basic concept validation tests to make sure what you are planning will work outside of a toy model without wasting time and compute to retrain a bigger one over and over
That’s what I do
stark needle
Yes but not for the absolute basic concept validation tests to make sure what yo...
Ok true
olive sable
Well I’d recommend trying by full finetuning Gemma 3 270m instruct so you can pl...
we have a 4090 and dual xeon 6138 with 256GB of ram
nocturne olive
For LLMs that's considered kinda small
olive sable
<:neuroThinkSmug:1187047540122722374> For LLMs that's considered kinda small
you're kinda small
mighty thorn
we have a 4090 and dual xeon 6138 with 256GB of ram
Unless you pay for your own electric and also want to wait around for hours at a time with zero guaranteed results, you should just do your initial testing on teeny model
stark needle
you're kinda small
nocturne olive
you're kinda small
LLM scales are stupid
mighty thorn
you're kinda small
Legally it’s only slander if he proves you wrong
midnight sigil
semantic analysis on the gpu <:neuroPogHD:1458850559976144959>
do stylistics analysis on everyone to see how many fake human chatters are in this server
stark needle
Just get 3 dgx sparks like me
nocturne olive
Legally it’s only slander if he proves you wrong
stark needle
Easy fix
mighty thorn
how much is a single dgx spark even?
4k
stark needle
how much is a single dgx spark even?
4-6k depending on scalper/resale pricing
olive sable
and its worse than a 4090?
stark needle
and its worse than a 4090?
It's 5060 ti performance
nocturne olive
mighty thorn
data export
Also I’d assume you are going the afunyun path of using ChatGPT to generate synthetic messages that your dataset will frame your real messages as being in response to
nocturne olive
You need a 5090 to beat a 4090
olive sable
Also I’d assume you are going the afunyun path of using ChatGPT to generate synt...
uh idk
sure i guess
warped narwhal
im not gonna send the whole thing cuz im still afraid of getting banned, but non...
Most of these I understand. But len?
stark needle
5060 to performance while 8x vram and 8x price
U have on-die infiniband tho
mighty thorn
<:Shruge:1182745661909762098>
I mean LLMs are conversational, you can’t just train on your actual messages or it’ll regress into a text completion model and just finish your sentences instead of responding as if it were you
stark needle
True
olive sable
hmmm
mighty thorn
Like a responsible scientist
olive sable
you know the mods can report you for this right?
nocturne olive
You'll get banned here for breaking Discord ToS though
mighty thorn
Fine
I do it via rigorous safety testing and the application of the scientific method
I want to try and export my phone text messages but Apple is stinky and won’t let me
vague sonnet
I mean LLMs are conversational, you can’t just train on your actual messages or ...
it's a text completion regardless
if you don't configurate the right stopping tokens it will speak for the user too
just the public models already have that so you don't notice
mighty thorn
it's a text completion regardless
if you don't configurate the right stopping to...
You know what I mean
stark needle
It is typing
mighty thorn
It is typing
It is typing
vague sonnet
I might need to read up because I might be missing context
does he want to train an LLM from scratch using just his messages?
if you just finetune an existing model you shouldn't hit that issue
olive sable
lemme see if there is a vllm flake available
stark needle
lemme see if there is a vllm flake available
Vllm is a package ur supposed to run in docker
stark needle
Why does everyone hate docker😭 😭 😭 😭
opaque sigil
why would you need a flake for vllm, just pick the one from nixpkgs
olive sable
sage crag
sick owl
i dont want sam van slop to be a biggot
Are you making one of those finetune clones of yourself
olive sable
botan-kamiina-fully-blossoms-when-drunk-kamiina-botan-yoeru-sugata-wa-yuri-no-hana.mp4
stark needle
Why does everyone hate docker😭 😭 😭 😭
No, everyone has to run their goddamn frick weird container os nixos and then complain when stuff doesn't work or waste so much time on this😭 😭 😭
opaque sigil
olive sable
and docker is something weird that appeared in my vscode exstensions one day and i hate it and i like doign things how im used to and i have autism
docker is unnecessary, just run it on the hardware
stark needle
Bro u simply don't know the joy of distributed managed high availability helm-templated kubernetes deployment
olive sable
you sound like a corpo
olive sable
shadow def works for arasaka
glass jetty
Bro u simply don't know the joy of distributed managed high availability helm-te...
docker is conspiracy that memory chip companies created to make you buy more
mighty thorn
Why does everyone hate docker😭 😭 😭 😭
Have you ever heard of Hell?
It’s actually the old world name for docker headquarters
glass jetty
docker is fine unless you make unmaintainable and unclear ecosystem
and force every one to use it
- you kinda have to know how docker work
trim valve
Why does everyone hate docker😭 😭 😭 😭
rootful docker is silly
glass jetty
- compose is shit and i will not learn it
stark needle
docker is conspiracy that memory chip companies created to make you buy more
What are u on about
Docker allows more compute density and hardware utilization
sage crag
stark needle
Compared to legacy vmware workflows
olive sable
genuinely tho, why would docker be useful to me for this when it just adds overhead?
trim valve
genuinely tho, why would docker be useful to me for this when it just adds overh...
it avoids nixos dependency shenanegans
I've had to use it before for matlab
stark needle
genuinely tho, why would docker be useful to me for this when it just adds overh...
All dependencies and stuff to run
Especially all the cuda slop
sage crag
genuinely tho, why would docker be useful to me for this when it just adds overh...
standardisation
trim valve
olive sable
if it works on my machine then i dont care about standartisation for this
sage crag
not everything can be reproduced identically to a docker environment just by using nix flake
however
thorny marsh
meh
olive sable
the goal is work on my server. i dont care whether it works for other people
thorny marsh
software is made for my machine
can you make it for my machine too NeuroWant (idek what you are referring to)
sage crag
you want it to run
stark needle
Yes your server should be running docker and not install random shit on the raw os that might break everything
Especially when everything wants it's own dependencies
sage crag
can you make it for my machine too [NeuroWant](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis...
which one
trim valve
shadow you seem to be misunderstanding the core point of nixos
trim valve
installing random shit shouldn't break everything irrecoverably
olive sable
Yes your server should be running docker and not install random shit on the raw ...
if it breaks i roll back
i have generational backups
sage crag
mfw generation 400
olive sable
pun intended
olive sable
mfw generation 400
my desktop is on 141 rn
sage crag
im on 397
olive sable
sage crag
my nix config has gems like
because radv driver cant figure out my monitor supports 280hz
but this timing is actually a bit bad because sometimes my display wont recognise the input if its been off for more than a day
olive sable
might get fixed in that hdmi 2.1 patch amd is rolling out soon?
sage crag
no
thorny marsh
but this timing is actually a bit bad because sometimes my display wont recognis...
just turn it off and on again 
sage crag
displayport
olive sable
oh
sage crag
just turn it off and on again <:SMOCUS:1255703087730135122>
yes that fixes it
thorny marsh
yes that fixes it
and in cases which it does not you just arent doing it harsh enough
thorny marsh
:p
olive sable
my headphones say they can connect to 2 devices at the same time, but they might be connected to 3 devices. surely the windows notifications arent my laptop's battery?
trim valve
it could be outlook notifications?
stark needle
Nixos is for illusion of competence satisfaction on an imaginary self imposed problem
thorny marsh
shadow are you angry at a real problem or just angry for the sake of it
ragebait
:3
trim valve
thorny marsh
i enjoy nixos idc if my satisfaction is imaginary
glass jetty
nixos is nerd thing for ppl who want reconfigure main system from scratch for no reasons
olive sable
it could be outlook notifications?
does outlook still give notifications if you closed the tab 3 hours ago?
sage crag
i enjoy nixos idc if my satisfaction is imaginary
all satisfaction is imaginary
glass jetty
just use arch
trim valve
do you have outlook on your phone
thorny marsh
all satisfaction is imaginary
truere
trim valve
because its the same notification sound
sage crag
"just use arch" <- person who will have to chroot into their system from usb when they break something
thorny marsh
because its the same notification sound
reminds me it feels weird hearing windows sounds on a phone
sage crag
olive sable
it is outlook on my phone
trim valve
anyways im happy with my usecase of nixos
olive sable
it is outlook on my phone
canvas data leak
thorny marsh
"just use arch" <- person who will have to chroot into their system from usb whe...
meanwhile i broke nixos through a windows update and if it werent for my nixos+btrfs config i would have lost all of my shit
sage crag
dual-booting windows and linux on same disk
stark needle
Even chatgpt agrees lil bro
trim valve
wow shadow
thorny marsh
<:neuroCatUuh:1131629092475768884> dual-booting windows and linux on same disk
either that or booting nixos through a fucking hdd pick your poison
warped narwhal
another windows notification <:welpsagiri:1303972670127214662>
I've just realised that I've been reading this emoji wrong for almost a year.
I thought it was "welps a girl" not "Welp sagiri"
trim valve
are we really hitting the "I lost an argument with my girlfriend so im getting chatgpt to rank the messages" now
sage crag
Even chatgpt agrees lil bro
glass jetty
Even chatgpt agrees lil bro
dont discriminate this statement with ai answers
stark needle
@grok is this true
warped narwhal
That one Google dev
olive sable
Even chatgpt agrees lil bro
cap, i benefit all the time form rebuildability.
chatgpt is lying bro, i fuck up my settings all the time
thorny marsh
are we really hitting the "I lost an argument with my girlfriend so im getting c...
i get doing it one on one with the chatbot but bro really shared it in public
velvet vale
thorny marsh
cap, i benefit all the time form rebuildability.
chatgpt is lying bro, i fuck up...
thank god we can just revert amirite
olive sable
cap, i benefit all the time form rebuildability.
chatgpt is lying bro, i fuck up...
and it is clean
i dont have to fish through a fuckign dumbass file explorer looking for programs taking up 250GB, when i can jsut remove them from the nix config and everything is emmidiatly solved.
this might have been my personal biggest issue with windows. if i tell you to uninstall yourself, remove all your fucking files oh my god
olive sable
thank god we can just revert amirite <:NeuroClueless:1072901352902103100>
yes
i dont see why you put a "clueless" in place
it does just work
thorny marsh
and it ***is*** clean
i dont have to fish through a fuckign dumbass file explore...
exactly
with nixos i am always reminded with what my apps are but i have apps in windows i have apps i installed 5 years ago that i still havent cleaned up because i am just not willing to
thorny marsh
it does just work
the thing is i prefer just building a new generation by appending a letter to it, starting from B, in scenarios where the reverted change is very very minor
olive sable
thorny marsh
FUCK THAT
lets also ignore the fact that i also probably have extra drivers i should remove and some potential registry keys that could just staying there for no reason at all even post deletion of the thing that needs them
olive sable
the server get a litle rowdy when i do a nixos-rebuild
warped narwhal
the server get a litle rowdy when i do a nixos-rebuild
Everytime you rebuild switch, a kitten dies
thorny marsh
Everytime you rebuild switch, a kitten dies
who is said kitten
warped narwhal
who is said kitten
glass jetty
meow....
olive sable
chara is a discord kitten confirmed, welp, im rebuilding again, say goodbbye
glass jetty
thorny marsh
meowww
sage crag
wrr
thorny marsh
https://tenor.com/view/cute-kitten-alone-sleep-tucked-in-gif-14814077
do tvs make wrring noises
sage crag
wrrrr
warped narwhal
do tvs make wrring noises
Depends how hard you hit it
nocturne olive
warped narwhal
https://tenor.com/view/evil-vtuber-3d-head-turn-concerned-gif-154951866538118562...
nocturne olive
CRTs probably sing at C20
warped narwhal
depending on how you imagine wrr sounds
olive sable
at what?
nocturne olive
C20, octave 20 C
tender river
https://tenor.com/view/utena-revolutionary-girl-utena-sip-sips-tea-reaction-gif-14841974987248921153
olive sable
https://tenor.com/view/cool-it-gif-24987169
imma be real with you fam, that aint a crt
nocturne olive
(it's like a billion Hz over what humans can hear)
warped narwhal
C20, octave 20 C
Mmmmh, ear piercing
olive sable
im pretty sure crt arent a billion hertz
nocturne olive
Mmmmh, ear piercing
You won't even hear it
olive sable
they're like 15KHz
sage crag
vzeroupper
warped narwhal
imma be real with you fam, that aint a crt
I've been lied to 
olive sable
<a:neuroNope:1153068426252800091> You won't even hear it
you do hear crts
flyback transformer
nocturne olive
But do you hear them sing?
olive sable
yes?
nocturne olive
Rare breed of CRT that sings at normal frequency
olive sable
define sing
nocturne olive
thorny marsh
C20, octave 20 C
why C₂₀ and not C#₂₀ or even D₂₀
nocturne olive
C is like the standard note
thorny marsh
define sing
thorny marsh
<:neuroConfused:1182459521306730587> C is like the standard note
?? the standard note is A actually
A₄
thorny marsh
because A defines the frequency of the scale and the most common scale is 440Hz (A₄)
olive sable
<:OhISee:1316078991840383047> Rare breed of CRT that sings at normal frequency
wtf do you mean by sing? shouldnt be in the billion hertz range
is air even capable of vibrating at a billion hertz?