programming

[leaden crest]

isaac sim nerd; it’s wayyyyyy too abstracted for what you want

[proven merlin]

No i dont think you understand- i want something abstract rn

I want to escape from making my own tooling for once ^^"

Just something i can jump into, slap some stuff together experiment and see how it reacts to different inputs and sensors and shit

[opaque wharf]

Brother wtf is it that you actually want

If you want robotic simulator then there's gazebo and coppelia

[proven merlin]

I wanna have a all in one solution of where i can make a skeleton, set limits on joints, forces and all, specify training limits and methods, goals and such, and just fiddle with super basic ML experiments.. preferably no code, but with an option to add my own code if i wanna idk, add my own training method or whatever

[leaden crest]

isaac sim sounds similar ig but the system requirements might not like your 2060 i think

[proven merlin]

Yeah, isaac sim seems nice.. if it would run at more than 7 fps and not take 70 minutes to load up.

I tried, its awful.

[leaden crest]

headless or what?

well ig if you ran it headless it wouldnt be what you’re lookin for

[proven merlin]

I tried with a batch size of one, 640x480 renderer

The runtime bloat just killed it

(and the raytracing..)

[opaque wharf]

Then there's no such solution off the top of my head

[leaden crest]

you could always pick a genetic algorithm youtube video and see if they have a repo

then code review

[opaque wharf]

Because no other software is as integrated as isaac. Maybe gazebo but then you'll still need to glue it to your ml

[proven merlin]

Chatgpt and such all point me to unity + pytorch.. or godot.. ig that would work.. the most promising looking thing i got was mujoco

[opaque wharf]

My advice: don't

[proven merlin]

Dont what exactly?

Ask gpt? Mujoco?

[leaden crest]

dont make your own sim environment?

[proven merlin]

Oh. Is that what mujoco essentially would be?

[opaque wharf]

Yeah

[leaden crest]

I mean I heard mujoco’s not bad

[opaque wharf]

But its just a physics engine

You need to glue a lot more

[proven merlin]

Well there is the lack of documentation showing once again.. gpt was 100% sure that its "the closest to isaac sim" i had a feeling it wasnt. Glad i didn't waste my time with that

[leaden crest]

yeah most things are poorly documented for some reason

[opaque wharf]

I told you at least it is gazebo or coppelia

Webot if you don't need high precision stuff

[leaden crest]

gpt doesnt know squat about robotics simulators

its a very poorly documented world

[proven merlin]

I don't mind writing a bit of boilerplate if it all integrates well.. like if its just 50 lines of python the whatever, i just hope i wont have to touch it ever again once it runs.. i also dont mind defining skeletons in code.. or blender or whatever. Just as soon as it gets more than glueing basic shit together i wont have enough time to play with it

[leaden crest]

(comparatively speaking)

[proven merlin]

Yeah noticed when nothing was showing up when i was googling for it, so i turned to gpt/qwen in hopes it had something to point me to

[rigid snow]

ok this is fucking crazy i'm just talking to it in vc and this is a feature it ships with? honestly just need to recommend this to people who want neuro except this one can actually do stuff. but yeah the latency is bad

[opaque wharf]

You can try to run ROS2 with MuJoCo I guess. That way you get access to the swath of tooling available for ROS

[proven merlin]

ROS?

[fickle rain]

Oh so that's why Anthropic kills your usage limits if you have HERMES.md in worktree :D

[opaque wharf]

Robot Operating System (contrary to the name, it is not a separate OS, just a framework)

[mighty thorn]

Dad what’s a mujoco

[leaden crest]

unfortunately if you cant find info ai will find you hallucinated info

[rigid snow]

good thing i'm on codex

[leaden crest]

mujoco deez nuts (no the joke doesnt make sense to me either)

[proven merlin]

Yes true, but atleast those hallucinations give me more words to search for xD

[proven merlin]

Lemme Google that rq

[proven merlin]

-> finds nothing.. well ok, the 8th? Listing shows me https://www.ros.org/
Looking on mobile i cant seem to understand what it is.. why is this like this? Is this the right site?

[opaque wharf]

Yes it is

Welcome to robotics world where everything looks like it comes from the 90s

[leaden crest]

arduino community

[proven merlin]

90's tech is good- issue is their lts link is dead

And its site is more about the project than the framework

Anyway

[leaden crest]

you know a few decades later if the internet is still alive people will look at vibe coded code and say it looks like it’s from the 20s

[proven merlin]

"Binary packages
Binaries are only created for the Tier 1"
Tf is tier 1 now?

[umbral wigeon]

Github repo commits msg are filled with emojis😭 🙏

[proven merlin]

I just clicked the installer getting started link

[umbral wigeon]

Open source repo I see, has a bunch of emojis commit messages

More than 1k stars btw

I mean it's not bad

But it's weird

[leaden crest]

I should start using emojis in my commit messages

😭 😭 🙏 💔 🥀 😭 😭 😭 🙏 🙏 someone fix ts (NOT YOU CLAUDE)

[umbral wigeon]

✅️ add: 67 features

[rigid snow]

it's not **vibe**coded if it's not you telling what you want in vc to your openclaw agent that's spinning up subagents in the background that will research and prompt claude code to implement

[leaden crest]

would be a fire commit

[rigid snow]

when the code barely functions you know it's real vibey

[umbral wigeon]

And somehow it's a insanely good library

[leaden crest]

wild

[proven merlin]

Im wondering, do you know about Webots? Is it simmilar?

[rigid snow]

emojis in commit messages were a trend in like 2018

[opaque wharf]

Webot is more similar to gazebo and coppeliasim

[umbral wigeon]

Here what repo I'm talking about
https://github.com/elysiajs/elysia

[opaque wharf]

All three of them have good integration with ros too

[rigid snow]

elysia is a great library yea

[leaden crest]

I vaguely remember from a while ago though I never did any projects with it
iirc it has a robotics library but nothing for ai, similar to the others (see toast)

[leaden crest]

the anime girl I cant

obviously a ricer

[umbral wigeon]

The maintainer are a femboy yk

[leaden crest]

even the readme appears to be ai generated

what the hell is this

[sick owl]

AI companies use single strongest narrative for governmental influence in bid to gain influence with government

[leaden crest]

I cant even tell this is so business major coded 😭

[proven merlin]

I would like to tell you that that helps me understand but im a "bit" stupid atm..

[umbral wigeon]

Also used by big tech company btw

[opaque wharf]

https://gazebosim.org/home

https://www.coppeliarobotics.com/

[leaden crest]

the bubble never was about ai, it was always about big slop tech companies 💔

[opaque wharf]

Contrary to what it looks like, elysia has been a framework for a long time (before vibe coding is trendy). And it is good.

[leaden crest]

thats crazy what kinda llm are they using if it isnt broken yet

[sick owl]

Tbh I've gone off sim2real, real2real is so much easier and cheaper now that we have open VLA models which can generalise from relatively small teleop datasets

[umbral wigeon]

Yeah the maintainer even shows benchmarks that it's good and better than other library

[leaden crest]

i forget ru the one with the robot arm

[sick owl]

Ye

[leaden crest]

fire

[opaque wharf]

But the hardware cost can be prohibitive for humanoid bot

[leaden crest]

he does arm robotics which is significantly less hazardous and less costly though

[sick owl]

True, if you just want to play around without actually buying a humanoid bot obviously its kinda your only option

[leaden crest]

plus inverse kinematics

[sick owl]

But I don't recommend humanoids for most people anyway

Arms are cheap and easy to build these days

And you can go from there with a mobile platform and central lift and get something that does most of what you actually want a humanoid to do for a tenth of the cost

[umbral wigeon]

Do you need linear alebgra for robotic arms, I'm currently in pre robotic/mech engineering major, All I knows was game dev because I spent 3 years doing game dev programming?

[leaden crest]

not to mention much more practical than humanoids

[opaque wharf]

Ye, I agree with this sentiment

[umbral wigeon]

Or what does the code for robotic arm looks like

[opaque wharf]

It is a PITA

[sick owl]

Humanoids are cool but wildly impractical in terms of cost right now

[leaden crest]

like I said, inverse kinematics
mostly geometry requisite (inverse trig)
but with more than 2 DOF you typically use matrices

[opaque wharf]

Honestly, modern tooling abstract away a lot of math of robotics

[sick owl]

Honestly not if you're using existing tooling, it doesn't hurt though

[sick owl]

Wot he said ^

[proven merlin]

Hmm do i understand correctly that coppellia is essentially just a gui for a physics engine (newton, mujoco, pybullet) and some ML training libs?

[umbral wigeon]

Oh okay

[leaden crest]

#baking has become #robotics what a day to be online

[opaque wharf]

And looking at the tracjectory of openvla, I suppose old control method will pretty much be obsolete sans for factory stuff

[opaque wharf]

Correct. Which is why I've been recommending it from the start

[sick owl]

Even IK is handled automatically during calibration for most standard open source bot designs

So unless you wanna go really out there with a totally custom design for the most complicated parts of the bot you won't need to worry about that

I recommend a custom locomotion and lift system but following a stock configuration for the actual robot arms if you make a mobile platform

[opaque wharf]

However old control method are still used for simple stuff (PID and Fuzzy)

[proven merlin]

It does seem very much interesting.. so.. what would i essentially need? I haven't dealt with any of the existing tooling yet.. i assume the combo of coppelia + newton + pytorch is good?

[opaque wharf]

Coppelia already has physics engine so newton is not needed. You only need the glue to the pytorch

[sick owl]

I will also recommend at least giving Isaac Sim/Lab a look in

[umbral wigeon]

So with tools that already does the math for you, u would only need to code something like rotate_joint_12(0.134 rad, torque=3.2)

[sick owl]

Its looking like it'll become the standard over time

[proven merlin]

Its own one? Does it run on the gpu? (Does that even make sense to run it on the gpu?)

[opaque wharf]

He did try that, but the sysreq is a no go

[opaque wharf]

Yes, as in, you can select the physics engine on the GUI later

No need to install it separately

[opaque wharf]

More or less

[proven merlin]

70 minutes boot time, 7-12fps. No ty ^^" (rtx2060). Not evem trying to get humanoids or arms.. just a pole balancer-

[proven merlin]

Ohhh thats cool

[opaque wharf]

I'd say more towards even higher abstraction tho

Like, moveTo(x, y)

[sick owl]

Honestly you don't even need to do that

If you're following a standardised design the tooling even handles teleoperation for you

The biggest difficulty you'll run into is likely to be dependency hell and shitty documentation

[proven merlin]

One last question.. what OS should i be using? I usually main Win10.. is that an issue? How long would it take someone to get copellia running with an ml backend?

Are there guides for this?

(i know my way with linux, using Linux isnt an issue for me, id just be installing and running on an external nvme, thats why im asking)

[opaque wharf]

Ye, coppeliasim can run on windows IIRC. It's the pytorch stuff that I have no idea about

[sick owl]

Yeah there is that downside

[proven merlin]

Isaac sim is just minimally bloated

For something simple as i wanna do-

[proven merlin]

I see some programs use pytorch on windows.. id guess it should work.. but i suppose ill go with linux. Any specific one well supported?

Cuz i know Arch isnt

Id go with Debian if nobody yells at me for that being a stupid idea-

[opaque wharf]

Well, I prefer to go with something derived from debian instead of debian itself tho. But that's just my preference

[proven merlin]

(rocm on arch with a rx6700xt is a nightmare)

[proven merlin]

Any particular reason? And a favorite? ZFS is making me consider Ubuntu, but Ubuntu..

[opaque sigil]

ubuntu generally has the best support out of the box

[opaque wharf]

Not really. But for desktop I just think debian does not have that great of a support

Like if you search for linux trouble, there is a dedicated stack exchange for ubuntu

Arch got excellent docs

[leaden crest]

…aaaaand robot convo’s gone, it’s back to ricing nerds

[opaque wharf]

But debian is just... for server mostly

[proven merlin]

Interesting.. but to be fair, i only really started using it on some desktops is because i dont like ubuntu (well, whatever canonical is doing)

[leaden crest]

sign for me to say peace out

[proven merlin]

Well arch and Ubuntu docs almost perfectly apply to debian-

[opaque wharf]

Yeah but they are different enough in default behaviour that warrants caution

[proven merlin]

For now. Ill probably be back in like idk 7h or so ripping my hair out

[proven merlin]

True, true.

But so does anything that uses root privileges

Well ill see if i can get ubuntu with zfs without the bloat..

Well apparently Ubuntu Mate also supports ZFS

Well i know what ill be doing after sleeping

Why am i always doing research and getting motivated for this stuff at 3 am..

Thanks yall, ill see if i can get something with coppelia and pytorch running later

One last (i hope) lil question.. wasnt YouTube once full of videos about how to get a setup to also make small ML models?

Where did those go? xD

[glass flower]

flooded out by ai slop videos

sadly machine learning isn't what it used to be... i used to watch 100s of videos of random small neural networks learning how to play things..

[mighty thorn]

Where did your ability to access the search bar go

They are still there

And there are now new ones which aren’t 8 years out of date

[umbral wigeon]

True lol

There's problem with people using ai to learn things

Also summarize things

Without watching them fully

[opaque wharf]

Codebullet

[glass flower]

eh i like his videos but its not really my type anymore...

[mighty thorn]

Rational Animations has some extremely extremely extremely good videos on simplified basics and high level concepts, which I would recommend as a primer before getting into the technical stuff

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, he stopped making those ml video about creature learning to do stuff

Carykh

[glass flower]

there was a random video i watched a long time ago. it was about ants on a wall trying to survive fly swatters. and they evolve to escape a ever faster getting fly swatter. i can't find the video anymore. it was like a low poly 3d game thingy

wait

it was carykh

and it wasnt ants. it was spiders

i watched that whole hour long video

[mighty thorn]

https://youtu.be/jGCvY4gNnA8

Watching this before the Welch labs stuff would help you greatly

[opaque sigil]

sick, i just spent half the day getting nvidia-fs and cuFile to work just for it to tell me my hardware is unsupported

I think it should still work at least, just needs to go through the cpu which defeats the whole purpose

looks like it's disabled for both the gh200 and rtx pro 6000 too

guess it was a waste of time after all

[kind nimbus]

[opaque sigil]

time to forget about the addition of nvidia-fs in my nixos config until the kernel api changes and it breaks

[kind nimbus]

What is nvidia-fs ?

[opaque sigil]

gpudirect storage driver, to bypass the cpu when reading from the filesystem

[kind nimbus]

interesting

so the gpu can read directly from the filesystem without the cpu huh

but what bottleneck does that solve ?

[opaque sigil]

having to read everything into cpu memory first

or well, not everything but a chunk

[kind nimbus]

i see

[high brook]

hahaha i just remeberd this is a thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yup8gIXxWDU

[hard delta]

i can't decide if this is incredibly cringe or just funny

ok when he screams garbage collector i decided

it funny

[high brook]

FYI several of the band emebers are programmers as thier day job

they's also italian

[lament igloo]

I fucking hate ants now

[silent cloak]

Run a benchmark and fry them

[high brook]

how lopng did that PC sit unsued?

[kind nimbus]

i'm installing Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC in a VM because i read that this version of windows has the least spyware lol

Unfortunately still need a Windows vm around for some edge cases

[high brook]

i still use windows 10 LTSC IOT

[kind nimbus]

I thought about going with win10 but then i thought what if i ever come across an application in the future that requires win11 lul

[fast pagoda]

google accidentally released an experimental assistant app called cosmo yesterday

[mighty thorn]

Ok

[fast pagoda]

i have the apk and have been digging around in it for like 6 hours (they pulled it from the store)

it's just project astra

[mighty thorn]

Dm or fake

It’s real

[jagged turtle]

how do you "accidentally release" something 💀

[sage crag]

automated workflow

[vague sonnet]

ay yo, quack is one of the boiz?

[fast pagoda]

quack is [redacted]

[amber fractal]

Kaine is just a non believer

I simply choose to keep my opinions open

[vague sonnet]

I mean, the tech is real but underresearched
weird to see LLM fanatics shit on it like that
are they jealous because SNNs don't have a ceiling this low?

[amber fractal]

anyone's guess

[umbral wigeon]

Open source maintainer of elysia are vibe coding so hard
Translation:
I underestimated Claude Design a bit.
I could use up 20x of Claude Max in a single day.

If a designer has a rough idea of ​​the design system concept in their hands and can visualize and refine it with virtually no feedback loop, resulting in something 90% of what they want, then send it to the designer who will actually implement it.

Imagine having a designer ready to work 24/7. If you're not satisfied with something, you can order changes and have it instantly recreated without complaint. You can revise as many times as you want, see whatever you want, experiment as much as you like, and draft guidelines and write incredibly good copy.

You can't send things back to the designer a hundred times, but you can with AI. And generating something with such a fast feedback loop—no matter how good I am as a design engineer, I couldn't do that.

There are still some flaws, but I think if designers used this to communicate with clients before implementing the draft, productivity would easily be 10x faster. But I'm not a direct UX/UI designer, so I can't give a definitive answer.

But I think we'd all be in trouble eventually. That doesn't seem too far-fetched.

[amber fractal]

And I've known the dude for awhile

[tender river]

frogsmog in natural habitat

spot

[vague sonnet]

every time I see that name I still think of touhou wolf girl

[fast pagoda]

that is all

[amber fractal]

Gotta have that pinned at all times

[umbral wigeon]

@wraith shuttle Rewrite this in rust

[vague sonnet]

which isn't even named keine and I'm just tripping

[vague sonnet]

@fathom glade write a LLM version of this copypaste

[floral hawk]

Anyone have any ideas on how to manage memory more cleanly? Manage writes/have a way to prune RAG? As it stands right now, my memory system is pretty robust, but I need the ability to wipe specific episode/fact storage and I'm not sure how I could go about this. Is there a program that can access RAG databases?

[jagged turtle]

oh no

[umbral wigeon]

All seniors I knows in facebook, doesn't actually write a single code

And elysia managed to make a insane library, while the maintainer isn't writing code at all(mostly)

[vague sonnet]

then you don't know any

[umbral wigeon]

Also the youtuber who's working on super computer in my country doesn't write code for 1 month after tried claude code
You can search up "9arm claude yt"

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/fubuki-confused-hololive-gif-18015941

[vague sonnet]

why would I watch blatantly bad "programmers" do nothing

[umbral wigeon]

Calm down gng, ik you don't like AI, you can't just say 9arm is a bad programmer but he working on super computer

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1327142377139343430/1486773213190029444/doc_2026-03-25_19-13-27.gif

[umbral wigeon]

I'm sharing some Ai doom

https://tenor.com/view/claude-claude-ai-anthropic-gif-11538098987609306313

[rigid snow]

fucking your codebase up...

[vague sonnet]

he will need that supercomputer
ai won't write him a code that runs well on anything normal

[rigid snow]

your perception of ai code is weird

[umbral wigeon]

He using Ai for works that doesn't requires professional exps

[rigid snow]

or ai in general

[vague sonnet]

whose?

[rigid snow]

yours
it can

[umbral wigeon]

I'm sorry if I'm sharing something about Ai dooms and make you feels bad, I'm just sharing what's going on about Ai on internet(doom sharing)

[rigid snow]

like sure if 30b models were frontier id agree but they're not even close

[vague sonnet]

because I know how LLMs work instead of getting hyped about the 10% it produces something that works (and still needs 3 refactors to even get close to acceptable)

[rigid snow]

maintainability and perf are two completely different domains

[young plover]

Package (36)                   Old Version                  New Version                 Net Change  Download Size

cachyos-znver4/gcc             15.2.1+r604+g0b99615a8aef-2  16.1.1+r12+g301eb08fa2c5-2   20.18 MiB      63.45 MiB

Reflection time

[vague sonnet]

it writes code that does everything wrong
inconsistency, readability, repetition, performance

if it even works

you're rolling dice at every step

[jagged turtle]

???

[rigid snow]

have you ever used a current frontier model for coding

like my only complaint is it's hard to prompt them to write maintainable code

they can reason about perf pretty well

[vague sonnet]

yes
and even better
I'm seeing a senior on my team with 20 years at the company getting forced to use it extensively

[jagged turtle]

these days I find it doable if you give it project guidelines, and also read the code but that's a given

[vague sonnet]

if he wants the code to be faster and better he ends up barely using AI as it will take longer and do things wrong

[umbral wigeon]

If you want some good consistency, readability, repetition, performance, you can write in AGENTS.md, all about it
Then after it finished, it's your job to review and approve/suggest changes to make it according to AGENTS.md

[vague sonnet]

yeah you can spend full 8 hours without a single valuable commit, have fun

[umbral wigeon]

You can ask it to commits for you

Also you can edit commits messages if you don't approve how commits messages are like

[vague sonnet]

it's all perception
if you don't know what good code is you will be happy it writes something that works
if you're experienced and know the codebase you will be locked in a cycle of constant suffering

[rigid snow]

[jagged turtle]

[rigid snow]

not what i looked up at that’s valid

[jagged turtle]

ik

[young plover]

650k SLOC ranging from 1998 to now
good luck writing down everything the slop generator needs to know to avoid writing unmaintainable duplicate code.

[jagged turtle]

I also agree with the don't know good code part

I disagree with the experienced and know the codebase part

[vague sonnet]

aren't you the guy with no professional experience?

[jagged turtle]

kinda?

[umbral wigeon]

Let's vibe code

[jagged turtle]

I did actually have professional experience in the form of work placement

[umbral wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/jaded-disappointed-down-let-down-computer-gif-143123934597902682

[vague sonnet]

those are fine but generally too short

[jagged turtle]

I got like 2 months of work placement tbh, I originally planned for only a week but they liked what I did enough to let me have longer

although yeah 2 months might not be long enough for like, true professional real-world whatever

[vague sonnet]

they let you commit code week 1????

[jagged turtle]

For some reason, yes

[vague sonnet]

holy

[jagged turtle]

I assume that they ended up not using it for either safety or copyright reasons

so idk if they count

[umbral wigeon]

git commit -m "67"

[jagged turtle]

this was before the 67 meme

and god I hate that I just said that

[umbral wigeon]

git commit -m "Add: something"

[vague sonnet]

took me 5 months of grinding trainings full time before they gave me a single assignment here
the review process went real smooth tho so maybe I could have gotten it earlier

[jagged turtle]

probs

tbf I think I had it easy because my teacher gave me a recommendation

[umbral wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/tobi-gif-13936492183229294411

[vague sonnet]

but it's one of the best teams at the company so I assume they know what they're doing

[jagged turtle]

I think that's a sign of me coding too much at school

[umbral wigeon]

What your github? I wanna check out

[rigid snow]

why

[umbral wigeon]

I've shared my github, I wanna see you guys, so I can view some interesting projects and star it

[jagged turtle]

?
the code I wrote for work placement isn't gonna be public lmao

[jagged turtle]

if you wanna see my projects anyways just look at my discord connections and you'll find my github

[umbral wigeon]

Okay cools

[jagged turtle]

wdym why

[rigid snow]

you didn’t say anything why do you hate you said it

i’d get it if you were like

six seeeven

[vague sonnet]

bet you hated saying that

[jagged turtle]

because those numbers have forever cursed me

[rigid snow]

nuh uh

[jagged turtle]

everyone around me says it

even my parents

it's so fucking annoying

:NotLikeThis:

[vague sonnet]

you're cooked

my parents don't and my sister hates the meme so I can at least chill at home

[jagged turtle]

say it ain't so

[umbral wigeon]

My github looks a bit off
https://github.com/weenachuangkud

[jagged turtle]

every day I go to school I hear at least 3 kids doing the hand gesture while waiting for IT help

[vague sonnet]

what age?

[jagged turtle]

don't know, don't care

[vague sonnet]

fair

[umbral wigeon]

Your parent doing 67?

[jagged turtle]

it's gotten so bad a teacher had to start giving (admittedly small) in-class punishments if you dared to even hint at it

[jagged turtle]

not the hand gestures, thankfully, but the pronunciation

[vague sonnet]

that meme is so bad
there is no joke to it

[rigid snow]

why are programmers allergic to fun

[umbral wigeon]

What meme next

[rigid snow]

[vague sonnet]

bro's 8yo

[umbral wigeon]

69?

[rigid snow]

yeah i am not

wait fuck

[jagged turtle]

that was before [that number - 2)

[jagged turtle]

[vague sonnet]

CAUGHT

[rigid snow]

discord tos

[vague sonnet]

it's fine, get in the trenchcoat

[jagged turtle]

this ain't fun, it's stupid

[rigid snow]

stupid is fun

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-goobmorming-cat-wake-up-wake-gif-677851412402957446

[jagged turtle]

there's a certain level of stupid that makes it funny

[rigid snow]

see above, stupi = fun

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1486507149780713503/happiey.gif

[jagged turtle]

no it's stupid without a purpose

[rigid snow]

if you can’t handle the crifnge it’s just you being weak

[rigid snow]

me irl

[umbral wigeon]

sudo rm -rf me

[vague sonnet]

the problem is repetition
there's no joke to it and nonsense genre of humour loses impact when it's predicatble and repetitive

[jagged turtle]

^

like haha it's funny probably the first two times

[rigid snow]

i don’t encounter it enough to be annoying at all

[jagged turtle]

I've heard it at least 300 times by now

[vague sonnet]

today only?

[jagged turtle]

no not today only, this week

or last week since it's sunday here

[rigid snow]

although trust me i hear it in like public transport and shit

i just think it’s funny

[vague sonnet]

free yourself from public transport, walk everywhere

[umbral wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-deepwoken-mango-sharko-троллфейс-gif-10550943642984012656

[rigid snow]

yeah 2 hours to go anywhere great

[tender river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFwXbp9bLlY

[umbral wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/denied-button-approved-tiktok-meme-rating-gif-7664706516645968591

[vague sonnet]

that's your day 1 speed
when every day is leg day you speed up, get stronger
how many days until instant transmission? might also need to eat more beans like goku

[jagged turtle]

look it would be nice if I could

unfortunately there's roundabouts like everywhere so I can't

and like

also places where there are no nearby walkways

[rigid snow]

i’m not boutta be rubbing across city districts

running

why would i do that

[vague sonnet]

the aura is immense, I don't see your issue

[rigid snow]

the problem isn’t aura the problem is

running 10km

[vague sonnet]

lock in and that distance is nothing

[umbral wigeon]

Why engineering in my country is so danger

[rigid snow]

risk of falling brick

[umbral wigeon]

There's some college war

[rigid snow]

brick fellen

[vague sonnet]

bro lives in the home alone universe

[umbral wigeon]

If you walk outside wearing engineering uniform, and another college students that are not your friends or your team sees, you will def get beaten up

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-running-gif-5218444295714452030

[rigid snow]

i hope this is a joke

[umbral wigeon]

This is facts lmao

[vague sonnet]

as an eastern european I am not shook by that

[umbral wigeon]

It's in news, about college war

Some little kids even carry weapons lmao

[rigid snow]

as an eastern european i am at least concerned

[umbral wigeon]

Your country also have something like that?

[rigid snow]

but honestly just don’t do whatever gets you beat up duh

[umbral wigeon]

I'm ranning out of topics

Introduce new topic

[rigid snow]

baking

[jagged turtle]

why are you looking at people's github profiles

[umbral wigeon]

I wanna star some of your projects if I find it interesting

[rigid snow]

boutta ask my agent to look through yours

[umbral wigeon]

I staring github repos like it's some pokemon cards

[jagged turtle]

trust me my projects are not interesting

anyways, still waiting for drizzle standard schema support

[rigid snow]

idk seems interesting

[jagged turtle]

lmfaooooooooo what else did it like

[umbral wigeon]

[rigid snow]

your personal website

and that’s it

[jagged turtle]

really

that's it?

[rigid snow]

all it brought up

[jagged turtle]

weirdge

now check @umbral wigeon's github

[rigid snow]

neuro / vedal ecosystem ftw

[jagged turtle]

with your agent

[jagged turtle]

vedal is an ecosystem

[jagged turtle]

context

[umbral wigeon]

This is my first open-source after finishing 2th year learning game dev and actually doing serouis project on 3th year and quit game dev to be open source maintainer and engineers

[vague sonnet]

I was looking into making textures for character models
and blender has baking features for all the things I need which is pretty cool

[umbral wigeon]

Haven't refactored or improve performance for major update, which I wrote in TODO.md what will be changed

And I will leave this project after finishing it, cus my asian parent told me to do engineering not game dev

[rigid snow]

yeah it did like this one

roblox

[jagged turtle]

anyways does anyone know of a package for typescript that allows you to have type-safe env vars

[umbral wigeon]

I will quit roblox game dev now after this project is finished

[rigid snow]

look at the og t3 stack it had something

the create t3 app one

[jagged turtle]

thanks ai

mfw I use both prisma and drizzle in my code

[rigid snow]

it’s actually prisma iirc

or maybe you can choose now

haven’t used since 2023 lmao

[jagged turtle]

either way I found the t3-env thingy which seems to be what I need

[rigid snow]

right around when drizzle started being viable

[rigid snow]

ye

[jagged turtle]

honestly drizzle feels so nice to use

idk why

it just works™

and feels so nice while at it

oh I just realised I probably should also find something to manage state for neuropilot's live share companion

[rigid snow]

huh? how does that work

just uses that api or

[jagged turtle]

effectively allows the host and neuro to communicate through the live share api

because surprisingly yes that exists

https://npmx.dev/package/vsls

[rigid snow]

so she shows up as a remote collaborator the same way live share does it

?

or wait

[jagged turtle]

no, but that would be nice if I can do that

just show like a little "Neuro" underneath Vedal's name

unfortunately I don't believe that's contributable via extensions

[rigid snow]

isn’t live share an extension in and of itself

[jagged turtle]

yes

but the live share listing is managed via itself as well

so you'd need to be able to hook into that... somehow

which I don't believe there's an official way

but basically for right now all it would do is change some actions to reflect that it's working in someone else's environment

and also forcefully disable some actions as well

unfortunately there's still work that is blocking me from doing this properly

[rigid snow]

[jagged turtle]

this exists I guess

idk, I'll probably figure something out as I get closer to making that

[rigid snow]

redux

[jagged turtle]

yeah I've never used redux and honestly I would want to know for a better alternative

[rigid snow]

anything else

jotai is if you want closest to a reducer pattern, zustand if you want general state management

[jagged turtle]

uhhh wdym reducer pattern

am kinda evilDentge about this stuff

[rigid snow]

redux is basically wrapping state management into atomic operations, the handler is called a reducer, you pass an operation as a string and it will modify the state

jotai is built around atomic

[jagged turtle]

hm

ok I see

I will probably go with zustand just to be safe

[rigid snow]

basically? i think i reduced it down enough

[jagged turtle]

[rigid snow]

[jagged turtle]

hmmmmmmmmm

[opaque wharf]

Aren't they already support that?

To be fair, it does require extra package

Ohhh, so they don't use the standard schema yet

Just the specific validator library

[jagged turtle]

no, they only support the more known validators using extra packages

[opaque wharf]

Yeah

[jagged turtle]

and by more known it was basically zod, valibot and arktype typebox

and like one more but I can't remember

[opaque wharf]

I love to use drizzle with oRPC

The API is awesome

Contract first development ftw

[jagged turtle]

oh

[opaque wharf]

What's that? MCP?

Ohhh

[sage crag]

orm

[opaque wharf]

Drizzle

Vs drizzle orm

[jagged turtle]

where did you get mcp from???

[opaque wharf]

Because the site I last used to search for mcp looks like that

[jagged turtle]

lol

that's https://npmx.dev

[rigid snow]

orm

[jagged turtle]

orm

[rough bloom]

[jagged turtle]

LMAO

[kind fable]

I have a stupid idea, a vibecoding competition
You must build the best product for x or y but you cannot touch the files manually, you can only prompt the AI to do so
Basically a vibecoderjam
I'm sure nothing can go wrong

Oh also you cannot ever look at the code

[jagged turtle]

-$10,000 in tokens at least

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/cosmic-princess-kaguya-cosmic-princess-kaguya-yachiyo-gif-16298893631163188485

[opaque wharf]

So you stopped bed rotting and start kotatsu rotting now?

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-kitten-alone-sleep-tucked-in-gif-14814077

[kind fable]

only local LLMs allowed and not paid for

[sage crag]

-$10000 in hardware at least

[jagged turtle]

costs shifted :LULE:

[vague sonnet]

and electricity

[rigid snow]

yeah the one with the strongest hardware wins

inb4 major lab employee who claims to run a frontier model locally wins the entire thing

ant employee with local opus

[jagged turtle]

wb mythos

[opaque wharf]

"This is local for me!"

[sage crag]

local to my 10-petaflop-per-second supercomputer

you must understand

long render

how many point lights are in this scene

[opaque wharf]

See the opaque yellow part? That's all light

[sage crag]

i

ii

iii

iv

v

vi

[rough bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEwIW8Ldelk

good choice

[sage crag]

[frozen igloo]

Gosh darnit. Can someone go out there and dislodge that rock?

[obsidian mantle]

is this mars

[upbeat cradle]

I've been working on an AI who chats to other AI, what do you guys think? Honest opinions please. https://youtu.be/HoNZsWcbEyU

[opaque wharf]

No, this is patrick

[flint dome]

false its dres

[olive sable]

goodmorning

[maiden geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-grabber-ip-grabber-thanos-gif-21846609

[floral hawk]

Making memory improvements to Zero so I don't need to keep lobotomizing the poor thing. Working on memory pruning within the RAG so that un-referenced memories are deleted after a while, and also a crystallization process where she essentially builds core memories and preferences. IE, if she's running pokemon platinum and empoleon is kicking ass for her, she's going to remember it, and Empoleon will become her favorite pokemon. She will not forget this and it will be a preference moving forward that she will mention of her own volition. Also working on a memory write filter to prevent garbage writes and personality poisoning.

[true hemlock]

https://www.pcgamer.com/software/ai/gabe-newell-was-an-enthusiastic-supporter-of-openai-in-2018-donating-usd20-million-and-even-acting-as-the-sole-member-of-an-informal-advisory-board/

i wonder how disappointed he is rn

[opaque wharf]

Back when it was still OpenAI

[opaque wharf]

Like a disappointed dad

[upbeat cradle]

?

[olive sable]

time to explain the joke i guess

when people send random links, some could end up being ip grabbers

[maiden geyser]

remove the share id, genius

[olive sable]

ye that basically

[olive sable]

thats where the gif comes from

now

recently youtube added something to the share button that it also shows who shared it

[upbeat cradle]

Please excuse the 'old man' attitude. But what difference does it make for me to share my own video? Share link removed all the same.

[fast pagoda]

it helps track you and who you interact with online

not just you but if i click it then it helps build a profile on me as well and i have nothing to hide so im terrified daily

plus it makes commissions and shit

https://medium.com/@ian-darwin/you-are-sharing-urls-with-tracking-links-please-stop-502c6f54895

[upbeat cradle]

I must be in a modern minority who doesn't care about that. It's how the internet has worked since the beginning and I find it odd that it took 30 years for people to complain about it. I also don't see who would make a commission from me sharing a link to my own non monetized video. Anyway I didn't come to argue about how the internet works, I was only wondering if people liked my idea or not. 😜

[fast pagoda]

it's not just you but anyone who interacts with your link, you may not care but it's just a stinky practice in general, like walking around and blasting a speaker

[olive sable]

its 1984

[fast pagoda]

finally

[olive sable]

Firefox now has an option when right-clicking on the URL textfield, to “Copy without Site tracking.”

[leaden crest]

gemini gemini gemini

why does that happen

oh god its a podcast full of clankers

kinda gives the vibes of turing games

[ruby star]

Turing games meets the Grey Leno show

[mighty thorn]

What in the hell

[mighty thorn]

SNN ceiling has already been hit for years, won’t progress to pass Turing test until they get their own $400b bubble

[nocturne olive]

Car accidents: 📈

[mighty thorn]

Nah but allow tool calls to autopilot software would go crazy

“Jesus, take the wheel”
“Heading to nearest church”

[silent cloak]

Nvidia stopped pushing it when they realized they couldn't sell GPUs with it

[mighty thorn]

I cannot believe GPU company who makes GPUs wants to invest R&D into tech which isn’t a dead end for GPUs

This is a shocker

[vague sonnet]

it hasn't been hit because it has no ceiling

[mighty thorn]

Neither does ANN

[vague sonnet]

chat he doesn't know

[silent cloak]

Ceiling was hit around gpt 3 time

Everything else has been a bruteforced slap on

[vague sonnet]

if all upgrades are just adding more parameters then you know the tech has hit the limit because it's not getting more effective

the agents thing was a cool development but it still suffers from LLM issues

[silent cloak]

remember ANNs are just NLG with extra steps

i remember back when it was all separate techs

NLU, NLG, etc

[stark needle]

me when

[silent cloak]

not even cropped

they had to make the sign fit it

[glass flower]

my screeps....

[vague sonnet]

NLG without NLU is how you end up with a random word generator

prompt should be an embedding, not a sequence of tokens

do an optimised meaning extractor and a separate answer generator

too much work for big corp
and might be light enough to run local instead of using their paid services

[upbeat cradle]

Not a huge fan then?

[ruby star]

Oh no, i thought it was hilarious

[nocturne olive]

I should really get to that
But also I gotta finalize a lot of NeuroSynth stuff

[glass flower]

the guy above me attacked me and destroyed my spawn

[nocturne olive]

[opaque wharf]

Become the next buffer for Sam and co

[vague sonnet]

so toxic

[silent cloak]

markov chain was peak ai

[glass flower]

he saw me as a enemy... didn't even attack the others around him that have been AFK for like weeks at this point

[upbeat cradle]

I'm trying to think how to make him a little less boring, but he has a good working memory system, so the model keeps talking about previous conversations.

[warped narwhal]

make him less boring.

Give him a gun

[vague sonnet]

you do token matching from saved conv data?

[opaque wharf]

We need to do more of this

LocalLLM makes a prompt to customer service LLM

[opaque wharf]

Free LLM upgrade

[vague sonnet]

lmao

[haughty basin]

my current coding setup for productivity 💪
post yours

[mighty thorn]

Pretty funny

[stark needle]

hi it

[mighty thorn]

My moms friend is in Europe rn

Wanna go get her?

[upbeat cradle]

Not directly, no. I keep the personality prompt to a reasonable size, and save the conversation between sessions. once the conversation reaches a specific length, the oldest part is summarised so save space. Eventually really old stuff fades away.

[stark needle]

ur friend is in europe rn

[mighty thorn]

Kill

[stark needle]

@olive sable they want u dead

[vague sonnet]

ah so just basic compression
I've been looking into context matching with saved chunks
so I can run small models locally for use in games

[stark needle]

thank god i'm not in europe

[upbeat cradle]

I tried getting Max to play wordle yesterday, he sucks at it.

[vague sonnet]

LLMs aren't good at thinking
they do the best when they just yap about a given topic and pick predefined options

[mighty thorn]

What

[upbeat cradle]

Here is a couple of years of very slow development log... https://socoder.net/?Topic=9098

[opaque sigil]

nice cope

[mighty thorn]

Is it in eu?

[olive sable]

switselrand is in europe

continent

but

switserland

is not part

of the european union

(EU)

[opaque wharf]

It would be funny if Australia somehow join the EU

[vague sonnet]

euopean onion

[vague sonnet]

yo I'm down
to go there no visa

potentially also cheaper than now, should open more airlines there

time to manipulate australian and eu leaders to make that happen

[opaque wharf]

I wish ASEAN would at least have the same open border policy, but alas we are too spread out by being consisted of archipelago country

[vague sonnet]

isn't it like a 5 minute swim to another country?

[real sierra]

maybe ease up on the talk about policies

[real sierra]

thank you

[tropic spindle]

Shibo

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-goobmorming-cat-wake-up-wake-gif-677851412402957446

[real sierra]

I goob

int argc

what is your value

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1495756232047329291.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=NekoCatPetting&lossless=true

^

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

int

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1495756232047329291.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=NekoCatPetting&lossless=true

[real sierra]

not int

[sage crag]

ye int

[real sierra]

not int

[opaque wharf]

This is chay™

[sage crag]

it int

[real sierra]

[real sierra]

chale eef

[stark needle]

hi shir

[real sierra]

hiiiiiiiii

[tender river]

argc is passed to the program entry point

in the stack frame

[real sierra]

no I know argc is an int

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1248294218191999118/1353485622152794172/liellesocute.gif

stack frame

[real sierra]

but konii not initializing with int

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1495756232047329291.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=NekoCatPetting&lossless=true

^ int

[opaque wharf]

Argc is just naming convention. For all we know it could be int konii

[sage crag]

i argc

[real sierra]

printf(argv[

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1495756232047329291.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=NekoCatPetting&lossless=true

-1]);

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-kitten-alone-sleep-tucked-in-gif-14814077

it print ^

[real sierra]

[tender river]

shiro programmer

[sage crag]

ye

[silent cloak]

[sage crag]

not enough ints

i only know 1

[silent cloak]

which int is ur favorite

[real sierra]

boolean

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1495756232047329291.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=NekoCatPetting&lossless=true

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

subset of int

bool

[tender river]

depend on how

define it

[sage crag]

pure math int

boolean subset of int

[silent cloak]

i like WORD tho

especially DWORD

because it sounds like a swear

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/penpen-codex-comfy-buffed-sussmeat-gif-25067685

[sage crag]

or isomorphic to subset of int if defined without int

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-angry-pistol-pistol-gun-gif-17001523090508176980

[sage crag]

byte word dword qword fword

[tender river]

boolean can be placed in a one-to-one correspondence with a subset of int

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1397646770804097087.webp?size=48&animated=true

[sage crag]

ye

[fast pagoda]

fword watch ur mouth

[fickle rain]

Where OWORD

[real sierra]

bijection

[sage crag]

sword

[silent cloak]

the C++ community giggling at the meeting table coming up with these

[sage crag]

⚔️

t'word

[tender river]

hword word dword tword qword qword sword sword oword

[fast pagoda]

🤺

[real sierra]

c++ being made by toddlers would explain a lot

[silent cloak]

sword would go hard

[sage crag]

hwdtqqsso

[fast pagoda]

post quantum

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-xenoblade-xc2-xenoblade-chronicles-2-indol-gif-363013247950941195

[tender river]

elf sword

occured in my code

[sage crag]

[fickle rain]

IIRC TWORD ptr exists

At least in IDA

[sage crag]

sword bit

[sage crag]

width undefined

sword shiro word

[real sierra]

most compiled code contains an ELF eventually

[sage crag]

[fickle rain]

I remember seeing it for CALL m16:64

[real sierra]

do not word me

[fickle rain]

Might be wrong tho

[sage crag]

window use PE

[real sierra]

I require at least 32 bits

[sage crag]

linux use ELF

proportion

[sage crag]

shiro dword

[real sierra]

depend if you consider copy as new code

[sage crag]

sword int32t

[fickle rain]

Sex word

[silent cloak]

__m128i

[sage crag]

xmmword

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

wrr

[olive sable]

hi shiro

[sage crag]

my head hurts

[fickle rain]

Speaking of that getting it to emit w/FASM was a bit of a bitch IIRC

[olive sable]

reboot it

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-kitten-alone-sleep-tucked-in-gif-14814077

[kind nimbus]

Mine as well and i have an upcoming 10 day long exam tomorrow 💀

[silent cloak]

im getting my degree today

so theres that

taking a break after that for a while before i go for my doctorate

[sage crag]

my condolences for 240 hours of exams with no breaks

[kind nimbus]

I can take breaks anytime i want

[sage crag]

240 hours written exam

for you

no breaks

no sleeping

[olive sable]

my RC went to level 5 apparently

[kind nimbus]

Lol

[opaque wharf]

RC?

[olive sable]

room controller

[opaque wharf]

Roller Coaster

[glass flower]

and i died

gonna start new in a few weeks probably...

don't laugh at me...

[olive sable]

i have unlocked a link

tbh idk how id use that

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-grabber-ip-grabber-thanos-gif-21846609

[olive sable]

"remotely transfer energy to another link in the same room

sounbd like something id have to program, so im not doing that rn

[leaden crest]

fire

what major

[silent cloak]

CS

Naturally

[leaden crest]

naturally

[silent cloak]

Knew what I was going to do for a job since I was 7

[leaden crest]

[silent cloak]

And before that I knew I wanted to do some science or engineering related field

[silent cloak]

Na ive been rocking this field for decades

The market is ass rn but I got history

[leaden crest]

pure cs or x+cs?

your job not your major

[silent cloak]

Pure cs

[kind nimbus]

Lol for me also since i was around 7-8

[silent cloak]

Cybersecurity pays good but I lost interest back in like 2017

I still do similar stuff like anticheats etc

[kind nimbus]

How come ?

[silent cloak]

And other security stuff

[leaden crest]

ciphersecurity (bad joke idk why i said that)

[silent cloak]

Meh its kind of boring

[kind nimbus]

Idk i just love hacking stuff

[silent cloak]

I like game related work because it uses essentially every variation of computer science and programming

[kind nimbus]

For me coding is boring lol

[silent cloak]

Network graphics audio low level high level etc

[silent cloak]

The problem solving is the rewarding bit

Which is why I like research

[kind nimbus]

You have that aspect in pentesting as well

[silent cloak]

Ye

[vague sonnet]

real
tho I'm kinda missing biology having gone purely into soft
might pivot to neuroscience in the future

gameplan: train a digital SNN smarter than me to teach me neurobiology

[fast pagoda]

digital snn
smart

it's over

[vague sonnet]

yeah

[sage crag]

[sick owl]

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

[tender river]

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

lutel

[olive sable]

lutel

tulet

A Cardassian military officer

everything is a star trek reference

[fast pagoda]

based trekkie

[olive sable]

i have never seen star trek before in my life

[vague sonnet]

schizos using word predictors and saying they can think
watch me make a real digital brain

chat I hate trains

[opaque wharf]

I thought cardassian is 40k?

[olive sable]

40K is a star trek reference

[fast pagoda]

naur

[olive sable]

[vague sonnet]

tf is this connection

[fast pagoda]

you have a 1 min 12 second delay

good jobb

[opaque wharf]

You're going to make a whole fandom angry just for that

[olive sable]

let them be angry

[vague sonnet]

I could double that
by switching from LTE to 5G

[fast pagoda]

the 5g near my workplace is cooked

and i cannot turn off 5g :^)

thanks verizon

[olive sable]

my 5G works fine

[fast pagoda]

it works great when it works

[vague sonnet]

most places don't even have proper 5G
and just use hybrid that causes crazy delays
source: I work in telecom

[fast pagoda]

i have 5G UW in about 50% of the places i go

[olive sable]

i havent noticed any speed increase compared to 4g, but i also never used the max speed of 4g either

[fast pagoda]

as long as i'm not all the way in a concrete building

or at work

[vague sonnet]

speed is less relevant
it's more about stability
and raw 4G is more stable than hybrid 5G because I noticed it has longer delays during handover

[olive sable]

it hsould jsut switch to 4b by itself if 5g is unstable

[vague sonnet]

yeah that's another handover

issue is hybrid systems tend to handle it worse, probably due to running software of both

and pure 5G is rare

[olive sable]

thats pretty fast

[sage crag]

5g

[fast pagoda]

5g when it works is not bad

but

that upload pitiful

also

[ruby star]

Give him a little of the adhd chemicals :P

[fast pagoda]

ping all over the place

[sage crag]

asking too much of the piddly mobile radio antennae

[olive sable]

i get 185.13mbps supposedly on my 5g here

[vague sonnet]

watch 6G use an LLM that guesses what frequency devices should connect to

[fast pagoda]

agentic

sold

[sage crag]

called it AG

and then

I for internet

[fast pagoda]

internet

[vague sonnet]

they've been yapping something about using AI for 6G but I looked into it and seems to be more buzz words than actual decisions
specification writers have functional brains pog

[fast pagoda]

plenty of things you can call ai if you squint hard enough

[olive sable]

if you bend the rules enough anything is ai

[fast pagoda]

technically intelligent decisions are made by artificial things

[sage crag]

im connected to agentic generation internet (AGI)

[fast pagoda]

[olive sable]

game npcs used to be called ai

and they were dumb as bricks

[fast pagoda]

they still are fkru

[sage crag]

(with blockchain)

[vague sonnet]

not different from current ai

[fast pagoda]

web4

[sage crag]

webAGI

[fast pagoda]

does your phone send out a blockchain newsletter tho

[olive sable]

does it?

[sage crag]

every byte is signed on the blockchain

i own these bytes

[fast pagoda]

mfw gotta wait for the block mined and consensus before connecting

[vague sonnet]

my phone sends packets instead of chains of blocks

[tender river]

tie in internet of things too

its still relevant

surely

[fast pagoda]

for botnets

very

[tender river]

also for

nevermind

[sage crag]

alexa, connect to AGI+b

[fast pagoda]

awesome grass initiative + blazeit

blazingly fast

[sage crag]

silver iodine boron

[fast pagoda]

that's what quack is growing in a container

[olive sable]

isnt that a slime?

https://tenor.com/view/anime-ok-okay-okey-nice-gif-5996219900244854196

[fast pagoda]

mmmmm nope it's lellow (even tho that's silver iodide)

[opaque wharf]

"if/else"

[fast pagoda]

oh my god the machines have come alive

[sage crag]

if alive print hello else

segfault

[olive sable]

[tender river]

rule-based system

[sage crag]

⅞

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-inception-funny-surprised-gif-5971515

[sage crag]

sat solver ai

np complex problem

what food will konii eat today

[opaque wharf]

Chicken

[sage crag]

no

[tender river]

NOT eat cat

[sage crag]

no

[tender river]

[opaque wharf]

With green sambal

[olive sable]

carbon based liefeform porbably

[vague sonnet]

man out there eating cymbals

[sage crag]

how can you tell the different between white rice and bug larvae

[olive sable]

texture

[opaque wharf]

You don't

[fickle rain]

A man with a strong enough stomach does not need to

[sage crag]

baguette
carbon based: yes
lifeform: debatable

[fickle rain]

Besides, extra protein

[opaque wharf]

Sentient baguette

[opaque sigil]

https://fuglede.github.io/llama.ttf/ perfect font

[olive sable]

it used to be a lifeform before the yeast got burned

[opaque wharf]

So bread is just crispy yeast

[sage crag]

virus-in-font payload

[tender river]

if you ignore the

other stuff

ye

[olive sable]

among other things, yep

[opaque sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFd8vsr8nag harfbuzz my beloved

[sage crag]

ttf fonts have a bytecode interpreter

if bug in interpreter, font can get arbitrary memory access

[opaque sigil]

[tender river]

some font engines support wasm

[sage crag]

[tender river]

and by some i mean

harfbuzz

[sage crag]

wasm stand for font assembly

why not fasm