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sage crag
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useful ye

real sierra
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but now I am suffering from the lack of docs as I expand the networking setup from test rig to production

vague sonnet
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if you structured your project well it should be easy to swap the lib
to at least test if it will work better

real sierra
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if

sage crag
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use nixos-hardware flake

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pls

rare bridge
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what

vague sonnet
# real sierra if

no tests and bad code structure? I'm taking away your keyboard perms

real sierra
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eventually need box for host and test cerber

rough bloom
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I thought that was for like

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laptops

sage crag
real sierra
olive sable
# rare bridge what

shiro want to put it on my server, but is afraid of being doxxed, so now it goes on your server or something

real sierra
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but it was not written with gutting the entire networking library in mind

rare bridge
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i'll see what i can get done for you YES

real sierra
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but would love to know if open to idea eventually if has spare box

sage crag
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i just shove every applicable thing in the

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flake

olive sable
sage crag
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that cheesi

olive sable
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and ofcourse my server

sage crag
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officer cheesi

real sierra
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maybe I ask vedal for spare box glueless

vague sonnet
olive sable
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my informant says

playit
basically
is tailscale but only for games
real sierra
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I can test the neuro vscode integration for him with fumoquest

sage crag
olive sable
sage crag
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ye anyway nixos-hardware can configure graphics for you automatically

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very convenient

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strongly recommend

rough bloom
olive sable
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if the problem is doxxing i can change some of my server settings to make it closed or whatever. my tailscale guy says he can just add you but limit your access to my stuff too

sage crag
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i like it very much FOCUS

olive sable
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i think if you go through the tailscale guy i cant see your ip

rough bloom
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external dependency seems unnecessary for 3 options that are already in the default config anyway mario

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but I can see why you would like it evilNodders

rough bloom
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can still see it

real sierra
sage crag
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if i ever get a cat im going to name it nix flake

olive sable
sage crag
real sierra
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it unfortunate that I need to be worried about it

olive sable
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how does a vps work? jsut another server to be a mailman?

opaque sigil
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have a public vps as a gateway i guess to route things through

sage crag
rough bloom
real sierra
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I mean if I'm renting the vps I'm not gonna just use it as a proxy

rough bloom
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for you to do whatever with

real sierra
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I'll just put fumoquest on it lol

opaque sigil
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virtual private server FOCUS

sage crag
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vps is typically just a slice of compute on someone's server

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usually via kvm

rough bloom
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ye

sage crag
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bitrot is not a good name for a cat

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maybe for a mischievous cat

olive sable
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i thought tailscale hides the ip by assigning it to a 100.x.y.z

sage crag
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tailscale is an excellent cat name

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good idea

trim valve
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you can sometimes still see it

real sierra
trim valve
rough bloom
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connection is (usually) still directly between hosts

sage crag
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you cannot take cat into public

opaque sigil
trim valve
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it shows the endpoint addresses of every device

sage crag
rough bloom
real sierra
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name cat "; DROP TABLE Pets; --

sage crag
sage crag
olive sable
real sierra
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do not take cat to vet

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or vet will be sad

rough bloom
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ping a few of those hosts

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see what happens in that column on the right

sage crag
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name your cat

rough bloom
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where it just says "offline" or "-" right now

sage crag
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macintosh

rough bloom
sage crag
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oo name your cat dracula

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or carmilla

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name your cat "evil neuro duet with vedal"

real sierra
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if it turns out Sam is secretly already doxxing everyone using his server

sage crag
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kvm is a

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passable cat name

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why does that come up first

real sierra
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I should just not be cheap and buy or rent my own box

olive sable
rough bloom
rough bloom
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should show connection

olive sable
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no

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maybe too slow

sage crag
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whgat should i name my terminal theme

real sierra
olive sable
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ok ye, i see

real sierra
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because pink and black

olive sable
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hmmmm

sage crag
olive sable
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hmm that is indeed the ip adress

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exit node?

real sierra
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maybe I log on Sam box and use copyfail

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change root password

rough bloom
real sierra
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no more dox

olive sable
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so you're trying to hijack the system?

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im pretty sure i can just use ilo5 to get it back

trim valve
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gotta find an ILO bypass

olive sable
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since i have direct mouse and keyboard control of the active session nothing you do would work

rough bloom
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you can probably kill the iLO from the host OS if you want kek

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flash bad firmware or something, idk

olive sable
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its reversable

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i can just flash new firmware on it while i turn the server off

trim valve
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what if

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I heat the server to 100c

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so therefore you cannot touch it

opaque wharf
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Snip snip

trim valve
olive sable
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iirc in the bios there was a backup firmware or something

trim valve
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I'd also be surprised if that server didn't require some level of bios update auth

sage crag
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i bless you

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"global descriptor table"

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names for pets 2026

olive sable
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Even if you disable iLO software-wise, it can always be revived using the Physical Security Override Switch
rough bloom
sage crag
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name your cat "trusted platform module 2.0"

tender river
opaque wharf
sage crag
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name your cat "Filesystem in Userspace" (FUSE)

dire trout
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{
while(p‐‐!=0);
}```
wait will it be p - 1 then compare p  or compare p then p -1
opaque wharf
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Compare l

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P

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Then minus

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Unles --p

sage crag
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--p <- before
p-- <- after

olive sable
dire trout
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oh ok noted thanks

rare bramble
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--p--

opaque wharf
trim valve
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do we have enough photos of Sam's house to map it out yet

olive sable
tender river
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while (p --------> 0);

trim valve
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I remember I got bored once and figured out vedals kitchen layout

dire trout
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ig itll be easier than using

{
unsigned int x;
for(x=0;x<p;x++);
}```
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who would do that

tender river
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compiler doesnt like you writing useless code

olive sable
rough bloom
dire trout
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sob

opaque wharf
sage crag
trim valve
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autism

real sierra
olive sable
# trim valve autism

but what methodology diod you use? just extrepolate from the random noises you heard in the background of the cooking stream?

trim valve
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no longer in the server where I sent the image

dire trout
trim valve
real sierra
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recursive implementation

trim valve
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so I had to figure out some scale

real sierra
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now your delay function has extra overhead and can cause stack overflows

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you're welcome

sage crag
sage crag
olive sable
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to fix stack overflow, jsut need more ram. 256gb now, but can expand up to 1.5TB

sage crag
olive sable
real sierra
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recursion reminds me of

tender river
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recursion

olive sable
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inscription

real sierra
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the division algorithm when I was working on that virtual circuit board computer

trim valve
opaque wharf
trim valve
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mobile data sucks so I can't see the images

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but it was around here

real sierra
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the cursed division algorithm that randomly failed for some reason

real sierra
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I still don't know why it failed

sage crag
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also compiler smarter than shr

real sierra
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I don't know what went wrong

real sierra
tender river
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if it just called delay(p); without the if it might not even have the ret neuroPogHD

olive sable
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is tailscale funnel an option?

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i think it is

tender river
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for cat name

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ye

olive sable
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tailscale funnel to public ip, i have one of those

tender river
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tailscale funnel

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sound like

olive sable
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cake

tender river
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new species

dire trout
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one sec im doing a kahoot

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lemme get 1st rq

rough bloom
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though you're using Headscale

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so you don't have that

olive sable
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i can do a seperate tailscale i think probably

rough bloom
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I don't think so

olive sable
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one cpu for each

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wait

rough bloom
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you can try

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but

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good luck

olive sable
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if its playit.gg, that shit already hides your ip

sage crag
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cat name

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branch predictor

rough bloom
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good name

olive sable
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@real sierra dinkdonk how come playit doesnt hide the ip?

tender river
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cat name

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calculus of constructions

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or

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rock for short

dire trout
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Which register holds the output data for a port?

CTRLx
???

rough bloom
olive sable
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oh

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so he also needs to acces the server to put file son it himself

trim valve
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glueless do you both have ipv6

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just exclusively talk over ipv6

olive sable
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i do have ipv6 i think

rough bloom
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surely that helps glueless

sage crag
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modified theme a bit because i prefer it slightly warmer newliv

olive sable
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isnt there some free oracle server with arm cores?
just use those as a vps or as tailscale exit node

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Always Free
Compute
Arm Compute Instance

Arm-based Ampere A1 cores and 24 GB of memory usable as 1 VM or up to 4 VMs

Always Free
3,000 OCPU hours and 18,000 GB hours per month

hmmm

tender river
sage crag
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if i didnt like the palette i'd be using something like this

rough bloom
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unless you talk to sales and give monies

olive sable
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ye but just use it as vps

rough bloom
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it needs to run Unity

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game server

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whole point of VPS

olive sable
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wasnt the point of the vps so shiros ip dont get leakesd at my server?

rough bloom
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no

sage crag
tender river
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mine is this
its ported from my nvim theme
which is a very specific version of the nvim vscode theme that doesnt actually at all resemble original vscode theme, plus colors replaced by my base16 colors
neuroPogHD

sage crag
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wrr

glass jetty
rough bloom
# rough bloom no

would work but would be unnecessarily complicated
if already have VPS might as well run the thing on it

sage crag
sage crag
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welcome to k, it c but konii

tender river
olive sable
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cloudflare tunnel?

opaque wharf
rough bloom
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just

sage crag
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log(log(n))

rough bloom
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no reason to do that neuroAYAYA

sage crag
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i play terraria later

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mayb

tender river
opaque wharf
olive sable
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does cloudflare tunnel hide shiro ip or only mine?

tender river
sage crag
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many

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me play balatro yesterday

opaque wharf
olive sable
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hence the cloudflare tunnel no?

sage crag
rough bloom
opaque wharf
sage crag
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cat ~/.cache/.../log_file_containing_ips.txt

olive sable
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hmm so what you're saying is that its not possible

sage crag
sage crag
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wrr

olive sable
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idk who TOR is

sage crag
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onion

olive sable
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oh

rough bloom
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john tor

opaque wharf
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The onion enub

olive sable
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idk how TOR do it

tender river
opaque wharf
olive sable
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routing traffic through three random volunteer nodes
then you might aswell just use those volunteer nodes

sage crag
olive sable
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unless its like some random phone

sage crag
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@real sierra host fumoquest server on your phone using termux

olive sable
sage crag
opaque wharf
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You have like, rendezvous and stuff happening

olive sable
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cant you jsut route ssh through tor then?

opaque wharf
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You can enub

olive sable
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i imagine it wont be too fast tho

opaque wharf
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Ye, the latency due to geographical separation

olive sable
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Cloudflare Zero Trust

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should work better

opaque wharf
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Yeah, that could work I think

olive sable
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i have a cloudflare dns server

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warp by cloudflare could work too i guess

opaque wharf
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But whoever wanted to connect with you would also need cloudflare program enub

olive sable
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im pretty sure on shiro's side for 0 trust he can jsut type int he website

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and cloudflare does the ssh stuff

rough bloom
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that is possible

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but

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how to upload file then nub

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-# also browser SSH sucks

sage crag
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file-over-ssh

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also

tender river
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shiro you should host fumoquest on github actions with ddns

sage crag
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you can

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you can

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cloudflare tunnel on pc

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ssh over cloudflare tunnel on pc

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work

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i trie before

rough bloom
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ye

sage crag
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i have a domain but no server

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:mlntcandy:

rough bloom
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that work

olive sable
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if shiro wants to do it that way i can make it work

opaque wharf
sage crag
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Host the.host-that-you.chose
  ProxyCommand /run/current-system/sw/bin/cloudflared access ssh --hostname
olive sable
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oh ye, the server is nixos

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im sure that wont be a problem for playit

sage crag
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if anyone wants to borrow a domain

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i hav

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domain

olive sable
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i also have domain

opaque wharf
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To be fair, I also do use arch for my media server

olive sable
rough bloom
rough bloom
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3 domain

olive sable
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i ahve

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1

rough bloom
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-# 1 unused because only exists because funny

olive sable
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cuz i dont need any

sage crag
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ye but my domain name is cool

opaque wharf
olive sable
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from konii i would expect yuri.dev or something

sage crag
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no never

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.dev domains are too expensive

olive sable
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mine was cheap

opaque wharf
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I have .xyz enub

sage crag
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"ublock origin: bad tlds list"

opaque wharf
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Haha, you all can't have .id enub

opaque wharf
rough bloom
olive sable
opaque wharf
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Btw, does the eu have tld?

olive sable
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im guessing mine was cheap cuz its my name and nobody likes my name

rough bloom
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ye

opaque wharf
rough bloom
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.eu tld

opaque wharf
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But I guess so does .me

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Middle East

opaque wharf
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They can go as high as thousands of dollar enub

olive sable
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its 5 letter

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included lastname

opaque wharf
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What is belgium cc tld?

olive sable
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.be

opaque wharf
olive sable
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no

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i don't want to use .be unless its part of the name. like youtu.be

opaque wharf
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But the city! You own the city! enub

olive sable
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the city?

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what city?

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oh

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ye the spelling of that city name changed 200 years ago

opaque wharf
olive sable
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there's still a casstle with the original name spelling

opaque wharf
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At least you'll own the castle then enub

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Man, this cow skin sure is tasty

olive sable
olive sable
opaque wharf
olive sable
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i see

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removing nvidia prime did not break it, so i wonder why i had to add it int he first place

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lets see what happens when i remove mgag200

rigid snow
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did someone say domain

olive sable
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hi

opaque wharf
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Domain expansion enub

rigid snow
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i have too many

olive sable
opaque wharf
rigid snow
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because i'd like to have them regardless

opaque wharf
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Fair point

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There are worse things to collect

olive sable
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you know what. ANC on my headphones doesnt even filter the higher frequency of these fans

rigid snow
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thank you for reminding me to clean my airpods

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yes again

olive sable
opaque wharf
olive sable
rigid snow
opaque wharf
rigid snow
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i'd say with my airpods the lower frequencies like being in a car is far worse

rough bloom
olive sable
rough bloom
rigid snow
rough bloom
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would just not run Hyprland on the iLO display personally

rough bloom
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-# is that even exposed like that, idk, I never ran any GUI app on my server

olive sable
rough bloom
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weird

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NVIDIA driver issue probably?

olive sable
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maybe

rough bloom
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mabe because of prime

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if that's still enabled

olive sable
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i removed prime and now its liek this

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it worked with prime

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but then had weird issue with windows being choppy when moved

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ok, adding the mgag200 driver back didnt fix it. so prime is the reason i had dispaly out in the first place

rough bloom
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can you disable the integrated graphics entirely?

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not a good idea permanently but would be nice for testing

olive sable
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then ilo window stops worlking i think

rough bloom
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yee

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intentional neuroNODDERS

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to avoid any issues with stuff using the wrong output or the weird mgag200 driver

olive sable
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it might be high cpu usage cuz its copying display out from the 4090 into the ilo

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i guess jsut disabel sync?

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reboot time

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i can feel the air from the fans all the way at my desk

glass jetty
tender river
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buket

fast pagoda
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just accepted that it's unhappy about doing that

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clearly a skill issue but doesnt really do anything when rdp is rigght ther

sage crag
fast pagoda
sage crag
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nrr

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well ye

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but 64 bit runtime beta

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and

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missing

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appear

fast pagoda
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thats fine you dont actually need an executible in the 64 bit world of the future

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or to spell executable right

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we're past that

sage crag
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whgy dont you

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tell me that

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before i enable it

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it worked yesterday

fast pagoda
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Maybe they deleted nixos branch

rigid snow
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i actually ended up using less than 50% of the weekly limit on codex, ye just use 5.5 honestly

sick owl
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E2B at Q8 would be better than 4B at Q4-5

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The Gemma 4 series is highly sensitive to quantization, doubly so for the tiny models

opaque wharf
rigid snow
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e2b????? what the hell do you have

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core 2 era??

opaque wharf
jagged turtle
sick owl
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That might just be an lm studio issue

opaque wharf
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Maybe the model is just afraid of computing heresy that I'd commit if they run enub

sick owl
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The amount of people in here who have had issues with it and then switched to llama.cpp and been fine is crazy

opaque wharf
rigid snow
opaque wharf
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I'll give it a try again tomorrow

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Or more precisely, tnonight

sick owl
fast pagoda
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Oh my God I am so glad I caught the announcement before the stream so hype dreametech <xiaomi> are launching a new line of vacuums in just 14 hours live it's going to be an honour to attend and purchase as least 2 of each

rigid snow
fast pagoda
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Finally

opaque wharf
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I have iGPU. So I probably should use the vulkan backend right?

fast pagoda
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I can buy more slightly different vacuums

opaque wharf
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What are you making

sick owl
fast pagoda
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Idk if they have an openvino backend

opaque wharf
fast pagoda
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Oh it's AMD

opaque wharf
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Like trying to run rocm on nVidia evilWheeze

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My CPU is AuthenticAMD Ryzen 7 5700U with Radeon Graphics enub

sick owl
opaque wharf
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I wonder if there exists NotAuthenticAMD. Chay probably would have it enub

fast pagoda
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Idk I think my highest openvino score in geek bench is on amd on cpu

opaque wharf
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You would think intel would have very specific instruction for their CPU for openvino

rigid snow
fast pagoda
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Yeah my highest quantized openvino geek bench ai score is my 9900x3d which defeated my r9700 GPU using onnx

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Kekw

opaque wharf
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Is rocm that bad?

fast pagoda
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Directml OMEGADANCEBUTFAST

opaque wharf
fast pagoda
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GPU won in fp32 and 16 by a lot tho

opaque wharf
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Windows should patent this technology. Useless loading bar enub

fast pagoda
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They did patent that

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It's right there

opaque wharf
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Is full

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What else are they waiting

fast pagoda
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The rest

opaque wharf
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Lemme just

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Gravity didn't help enub

fast pagoda
opaque wharf
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They managed to crack anti gravity technology

rigid snow
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this codex feature is cool even though this is a false detection, "draft out" also brings up plan mode the same way. ux masterclass by openai, never thought i'd say that

fast pagoda
rigid snow
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yeah cpu inference should be tolerable on that i think

fast pagoda
opaque wharf
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No sane person would do that

fast pagoda
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Qwen3.635b a3b

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Q4 I think or maybe q6

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Can't see on phone lol

jagged turtle
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github 1 9 of availability speedrun

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90%

fast pagoda
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Competing with my company

true hemlock
fast pagoda
rigid snow
opaque wharf
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Microsoft is redirecting their slop from windows to github it seems

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Because who cares about github right. Layperson wouldn't even know about what the site is about

rigid snow
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ghostty's moving off because of this

kind nimbus
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So is everyone gonna migrate to Codeberg eventually?

opaque wharf
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Probably not

opaque sigil
opaque wharf
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Not unless if forgejo managed to finish the federation

opaque sigil
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codeberg is too unreliable and restrictive for a lot of people FOCUS

opaque wharf
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Yep. Most probably they would move to gitlab

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Or self host

opaque wharf
kind nimbus
kind nimbus
opaque sigil
vague sonnet
kind nimbus
fast pagoda
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theyre speaking to me directly

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every time i go look at nyarch it has become more self deprecating

jagged turtle
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lol

opaque wharf
true hemlock
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should be fine now

opaque wharf
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Mother of steady hands

tender spindle
opaque wharf
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Holy mackaroni, deskflow can be used on windows lock screen

jagged turtle
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im so glad my parents are talking about ai replacing people's jobs /s

tender spindle
fast pagoda
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I got a notification this morning, tweet from the primagen about not seeing 5.4 of 5.5 talk about goblins lol

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Super randomly

tender spindle
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oh. no this was the notification

fast pagoda
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The goblins are invading

tender spindle
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So it would seem

opaque wharf
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Question for you guys. Is 6-bit depth monitor on a laptop common?

sullen spindle
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Did you hear about the ai game IQ test for AI that was made public last month. The one that every human who tried it beat 100% while all the big AI like chatgpt and grok and Gemini were all between 0%-10%. Wouldn't it be interesting to see how Neuro and evil would do if they tried. I feel like the result could be surprising but unsure.

olive sable
opaque wharf
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Latitude 3420

olive sable
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ye its liek 300 bucks

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150 on ebay

opaque wharf
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Knowing Indonesia, they'll jack it up to 400-500

fast pagoda
true hemlock
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economy so screwed

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Indonesians considered those high end already

fast pagoda
opaque wharf
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Yeah we are fucked whenever the dollar went up

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And now it is nearing 18k evilWheeze

opaque wharf
true hemlock
fast pagoda
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wew lad

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i could live my dream of being a fuckyou-lionnaire

opaque wharf
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I think a vast swath of land in the mountain will cost you no more than 5000 usd

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Like, a really fuckass huge land

fast pagoda
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they replaced it with a pretty nice update actually

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64g of ddr5 in this puppy

opaque wharf
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They don't have 343 Guilty Spark neuroSadge

fast pagoda
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that's stackchan

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that'll be my destiny ghost//forerunner monitor

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i wonder how quickly my workplace would notice my laptop's ram suddenly decreasing to 16g if i were to do some custom maintenance

dull egret
opaque wharf
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I think if this keeps up it will be 100 mill IDR

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Currently it's still just around ~86 mill

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6-7 give or take

dull egret
dull egret
fast pagoda
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there have been like

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3-4 of them now

dull egret
fast pagoda
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yeah they're on arc-agi-3

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o3 beat arc-agi-1

kind fable
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i was really slow on this one

fast pagoda
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gpt 5.5 is at 85% on arc-agi-2

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and

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opus 4.6 max is at

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.5%

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on 3

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lmao

dull egret
# fast pagoda yeah they're on arc-agi-3

Doesn't this test require that the AI in question be either open sourced to them, or like that they need to register in a way that de-anonymises the test-taker?

fast pagoda
olive sable
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where elvy?

fast pagoda
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400% on all of them and also somehow everyone died

fast pagoda
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i dont know off the top of my head exactly how

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but im pretty sure they require alike the full CoT etc

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actuaslly less than that but they "can" require it

nocturne olive
# fast pagoda

New benchmark gets announced
Model makers start overfitting for that new benchmark too
Nearly 100% gets reached on that benchmark
Repeat

fast pagoda
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genius inference there

nocturne olive
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Very "overfitting to the new benchmarks when they come out" shaped graphs

opaque wharf
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And the AI overfit to the point it is not human

fast pagoda
nocturne olive
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neuroThink They're 100% faking the "linear progress" trend

fast pagoda
nocturne olive
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The difficulty of making anything work scales exponentially, not linearly

fast pagoda
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the graph is scaled by cost

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and score

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unrelated to time anyways

dull egret
fast pagoda
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there's a reason they hedge these things all over the sites

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the whole point is that the test should not be hard

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you're generally supposed to be able to pull a meh human at random and have them do pretty well

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it doesnt indicate anything other than how they do on that subset of stupid things

nocturne olive
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NeuroShrug LLM benchmarks aren't actually for measuring performance, they're for farming investors more efficiently

fast pagoda
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i was merely mentioning to other things to something else that got mentioned

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i have no stake in the benchmarks being good lol

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you dont have to prove it to me

vague sonnet
dull egret
nocturne olive
fast pagoda
vague sonnet
nocturne olive
fast pagoda
dull egret
mighty thorn
nocturne olive
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yes All the LLMs are benchmaxxed

vague sonnet
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can they get benched instead?

opaque wharf
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So it turns out I can run Gemma 4 E4B 8-bit quant. However only for chat mode

opaque wharf
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Lemme whip out the performance mode on power profiles daemon

mighty thorn
fast pagoda
opaque wharf
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She's going alright

fast pagoda
#

AW

opaque wharf
vague sonnet
opaque wharf
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Super high tech CIA redaction technique

dull egret
mighty thorn
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They all use eccslop ram

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It wouldn’t work in ur pc

vague sonnet
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a drop in demand should still lower strain on ram production and result in price drops

tropic spindle
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"Strain on RAM production" lol. Lmao even.

vague sonnet
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also it's not just ram
it's gpus too that spiked because of the bubble

opaque wharf
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@fast pagoda

dull egret
vague sonnet
dull egret
vague sonnet
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cpus are like fine
storage idk

tropic spindle
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Has everyone truly gaslit themselves into believing the whole "AI is the reason for high RAM prices" and actually think that they will go down?

true hemlock
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everytime i see discussion about "oh my god <insert model name here> hit <insert percentage> score in <insert benchmark>"

true hemlock
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all companies do is "sign off contract" of "reserve me this percentage of your total supply"

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then supply gets halted

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then those said companies back down

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now suppliers/manufacturers realized they can charge whatever tf they wanted

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absurd

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then ai bros cope

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"nooo ai demands is real they really need all those hardwares"

kind nimbus
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uhm yea maybe the SSD i got for the server was a bit too big trollface

opaque wharf
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Btw, this is another vim exit meme but how do I quit llama.cpp-cli? ICANT

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Ohh ctrl+c multiple time does the trick

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But why multiple times

vague sonnet
dull egret
tropic spindle
dull egret
vague sonnet
tropic spindle
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It's almost like there is no incentive to reduce the "shortage" when RAM manufacturers make more money from big corpo than selling RAM widely like they used to

dull egret
tropic spindle
dull egret
mighty thorn
tropic spindle
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It is more beneficial for RAM manufacturers to keep the "shortage" going because it makes them more money

vague sonnet
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which didn't stop them from artificially inflating it in the past?

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and yet it was more affordable

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you are just tinfoil hatting

mighty thorn
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However the actual issue is a mix of 25% geopolitics and 85% that these factories require billions of dollars and several years, sometimes close to a decade, to build and spin up from scratch

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So it’d be a gigantic risk to build more then finish when there is actually lower demand overall

true hemlock
vague sonnet
true hemlock
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we have enough ram

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just that these companies are holding their supplies

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in hope that ai companies would pay for far more for the dram chips

vague sonnet
true hemlock
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supplies and production itself is more than enough.

vague sonnet
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well yeah, it was enough for years

true hemlock
vague sonnet
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until bubble

idle dune
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The prices arent going to go down all that much unless serious political barriers are pushed past. Current US economic and political climate is driving oil price inflation whoch has spilled over effects onto everything.

vague sonnet
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evil oil drinkers

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start a crusade

idle dune
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Smadge and its gonna make snackies more expensive

true hemlock
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there are shit tons of dram wafers sitting in some warehouses rn

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unused

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sam altman may you rot in hell

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you fucking moron

mighty thorn
true hemlock
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no, dram wafers just sitting unused uncut

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because open ai back off outta their 40% dram supply

fast pagoda
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raw uncut sticks of d..ram

olive sable
true hemlock
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now these companies are coping hard still wanting to hold all these wafers

fast pagoda
vague sonnet
idle dune
# true hemlock you fucking moron

No you dont get it hes playing 5d chess. He's driving up the price to accelerate the crash and then hes going to but them up for super cheap after the crash.

tropic spindle
idle dune
tropic spindle
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By pushing all the blame to AI corpos for hogging the supply, they keep heat off themselves so they don't have to take any responsibility

vague sonnet
true hemlock
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yeah

shrewd cloak
true hemlock
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its both the ai industry and the manufacturers fault.

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not just the ai industry.

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greedy bastard

olive sable
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I have no clue where these frogs keep coming from, they just appear in my backyard randomly

true hemlock
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elvy invasion

shrewd cloak
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neuro7 dont think ai hype will fall anytime soon

fast pagoda
shrewd cloak
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by soon i mean like few years

vague sonnet
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and LLMs are so highly inefficient they won't pay for themselves

fast pagoda
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i think more it just means that they think they've captured who/what they will and can begin squeezing

vague sonnet
true hemlock
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these fat fuckers of corpa kept throwing cash and funds at each others

shrewd cloak
fast pagoda
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the vaasstt majority of use and spend are from under 30% of the users most likely

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as is the case with almost everything

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they wont leave

true hemlock
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most common ones are

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SaaS

shrewd cloak
fast pagoda
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that why js is now backend front end, inflight, injected in ur veins with air bubbles, somehow its 3d game engines

true hemlock
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then you have vibe coded sites

fast pagoda
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imagine writing a funny scripting language for netscape navigator in 95

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and then seeing it now

idle dune
#

Also a thing that people are overlooking for the AI bubble. Look right now at what these companies are doing. OpenAI, xAI, Anthropic, and Google are getting themsleves deeply involved in the US military industrial complex. AI companies are becoming critical for decision making and operational secuirty. So when these companies are starting to go bust from the big bubble popping. What will happen? They are going to get MASSIVE bail outs. Im talking 2008 recession level bailouts because they have become so entwined with the military that the US government wont let them fail.

idle dune
frigid trail
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Yeah thats the game plan.

true hemlock
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yay we're giving statistical and probabilistic models control on weaponaries.

olive sable
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ok time to debug the server NeuroBounce
why are you hating dual gpu with one being mobo gpu?

idle dune
olive sable
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its not igpu, jsut like one built intot he mobo

fast pagoda
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we crossed that bridge when claude was involved in simultaneously blasting 1000 targets or whatever the hell they said it did within maven (palantir)

mighty thorn
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Bubble wouldn’t affect Google enough to shut down their ai operations

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They use their own tpus which they buy from themselves

fast pagoda
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suddenly

idle dune
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Oh yeah no Google wont but they will try and get the AI bailout bux

frigid trail
fast pagoda
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uh oh

idle dune
mighty thorn
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Google played the extreme long game with ai boom

olive sable
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Damn you samsung where is my charger?

frigid trail
mighty thorn
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I mean they essentially are the paper

frigid trail
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I mean, they have been playing this game since 2014.

fast pagoda
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yes deepmind is the one actually making anything useful anyways

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they put out a ton of non-llm actually useful research and actionable product

frigid trail
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of course they are limited by corporate now.

fast pagoda
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i said this recently here but my brother is a meteorologist for noaa and weathernext2 is a major part of their forecasting at this point alongside the traditional ensembles

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they have alot of things that nobody cares about because theyre "boring"

frigid trail
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boring is relative.

fast pagoda
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that's the quotes job to convey

frigid trail
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your brother sounds cool.

true hemlock
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deepmind is the only cool one.

fast pagoda
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if you wanna see enthusiasm get to know a meteorologist

true hemlock
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the rest are trash in the scientific community.

fast pagoda
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theyre all gigantic fucking nerds for weather

mighty thorn
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Google is the only American lab putting up a fight against China in open source

fast pagoda
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ibm

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somehow

true hemlock
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"fight against china"

fast pagoda
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in very limited scope

true hemlock
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why is this so cringe sounding

fast pagoda
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because it shouldnt be a fight but here we are

tropic spindle
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Fuck IBM

true hemlock
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D:

frigid trail
olive sable
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ibm has some cools tuff tho

tropic spindle
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And fuck Dead Hat by proxy

mighty thorn
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And only because you quoted it out of context

true hemlock
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no its really generally cringe

mighty thorn
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If you had “putting up a fight against China” it’d be better

true hemlock
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"arms race between us and china"
"china is nanoseconds behind us"
bla bla

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financebros and techbros talk

fast pagoda
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granite is the single most transparent and responsibly maintained llm family

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for some reason

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apache 2.0, entire process is completely open

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including all data

vague sonnet
mighty thorn
true hemlock
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no but its legit cringe

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competing on what

mighty thorn
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Open source ai

true hemlock
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text auto complete models

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as of its an "advanced technology/breakthrough"

mighty thorn
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Next you’ll tell me space race wasn’t a competition and they both just wanted to advance science

frigid trail
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eh, competition is good.

mighty thorn
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Smh

true hemlock
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space race is an actual thing

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and actually cool

frigid trail
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duopoly > monopoly in a narrow sense

true hemlock
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this one is cringe

fast pagoda
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space race had/has tangible benefits

true hemlock
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^

mighty thorn
fast pagoda
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that actually aren't just "CAPITALISM FASTER"

idle dune
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Thinkpads my beloved

frigid trail
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Tho,

frigid trail
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lemme fact check that

true hemlock
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this one gets you what

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"mOrE mAtRiX mUl"

fast pagoda
idle dune
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AI does have massive benefits the issue is that corporatism and active attempts of mass regulatory capture weren't behind putting a man on the moon.

fast pagoda
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@frigid trail dont worry i was dooming about this a month ago

true hemlock
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it was so peak even the soviets went "LETS FUCKING GOOOO"

fast pagoda
olive sable
#

reboot

fast pagoda
olive sable
#

oops,w rong window

idle dune
true hemlock
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we should've funded nasa more

mighty thorn
true hemlock
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instead we get

mighty thorn
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death

true hemlock
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military having 40x more fundings

olive sable
true hemlock
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then ai bs gets 2.5T

olive sable
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jet engine loud

velvet vale
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i hear space chat

mighty thorn
true hemlock
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and we have slop all over instead

fast pagoda
mighty thorn
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You live in Australia

fast pagoda
idle dune
idle dune
true hemlock
# fast pagoda

all this shit for image/video slop and deleted codebases wilted_rose_4k

true hemlock
fast pagoda
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real

idle dune
frigid trail
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genuinely it can't be hard to make an among us plugin for creating a programmatic bot API.

olive sable
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need to go get my passport now, server debugging go later

fast pagoda
frigid trail
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maybe if i sacrifice a ram stick, I can do it.

idle dune
fast pagoda
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i cant imagine being sundar out here directing my fucking search engine company to outspent 13 years of apollo program on blobs of matmul

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that must be a weird feeling

mighty thorn
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It’s the single thing Vedal has open sourced

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So it’s actually instant

frigid trail
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nvm it just phased through the wall, time to make a path finder.

fast pagoda
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agentic af

frigid trail
fast pagoda
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bold step for botkind

true hemlock
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we could've thrown all those trillions to research institutions that work with subatomic particles aswell

fast pagoda
true hemlock
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honestly as someone who's been into the astrophysics rabbithole. antimatter is a big deal.

velvet vale
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theres cool uses; very few of those uses come from the chatbots

idle dune
fast pagoda
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much better frontiers out there

velvet vale
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the chemical work is amazing; we can sequence novel organisms in 24 hours; we can learn how to speak with elephants

true hemlock
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nuclear fission is about 0.07%

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fusion is about 0.1%

idle dune
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Despairge please tell me someone got the reference

fast pagoda
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search algos useful and cool

kind fable
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so i decided to train a bit

true hemlock
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gas are way below

kind fable
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and i got a sub one

true hemlock
idle dune
true hemlock
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but instead we get clanker llms

fast pagoda
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hitchhiker's is unfortunately historical nonfiction

true hemlock
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there are a lot of uses for diffusion models especially on the robotics field

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instead we get...

fast pagoda
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which i mean fair giventhe exposure

true hemlock
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we also have alphafold

true hemlock
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this is why google deepmind is the only cool one.

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out of all the gigantic ones

velvet vale
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theres lots of work done with the opensource models

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you dont tend to hear about that tho

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and Nvidia do some decent work; so do ibm and indie orgs

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splats are kindda ai

fast pagoda
fast pagoda
#

my son

idle dune
# frigid trail most of it is gatekept.

Level1Tech had a good video on it. There was a company that is making an AI system to help scientists make synthetic medications because its such a delicate process that taking it out minutes to early or to late completely screws up everything.

true hemlock
fast pagoda
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bro

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deep thought

velvet vale