programming

[reef ingot]

Min is way more Messy

[flint dome]

@opaque wharf compute get in here we have a true madman here

[olive sable]

also what the fuck. did you hang that bear?

[flint dome]

the bear tried hunting for cs jobs

[reef ingot]

almost ,want to use 2 vga screens at the same time

I got the os half there ish ,the file manger and ipc and comm between the bords is done

[flint dome]

what type of game are you trying to build?

this looks hella interesting to me

[amber fractal]

Thanks to a certain N64, fixed can go pretty far

[reef ingot]

Is the teddy doing suside?

[amber fractal]

But you can do better

[reef ingot]

It's a computer I am building with a game engine more of a arcade thing?

[umbral wigeon]

Teddy gone

[olive sable]

its not really practical for optimal gpu usage. with dynamic pipeline you're using all the cores all the time if they programmed the shader correctly

[flint dome]

no i meant what's the game gonna be like i understand that much that its something old arcade style

[reef ingot]

Nhaaaa rip teddy

[reef ingot]

Doom and some atari games and some of the games I am working on

[amber fractal]

Looks like the GPU is a esp32 so I'm sure no matter what it'll be fully used

[olive sable]

lemme put the image straight,i cant read shit

[reef ingot]

The e1 and e2gs are the one with the actual graphic stuff and the e1 and p1 is the cpu part nostly

[amber fractal]

[amber fractal]

Increase the contrast, deepfry

[flint dome]

turn head counter clockwise by 90

[reef ingot]

My camera is not that 😞

Bad

[flint dome]

hmmm id say good but why another esp for sound

you could get away with something simpler

[reef ingot]

Coz that also runs dosbox for a x84 emulator

All boards on it has a second use that's why there is 2 vga

[flint dome]

ahhhhh okay

and im guessing the pi pico is the southbridge?

or io controller that is

[stark needle]

Are u making a whole cpu system setup

[reef ingot]

The ardvino nano only job is to use a hid host sheald that uses uart to rest of the chips to give keybord and mouse stuff the pico is more of a second cpu to do background stuff for the os part

[reef ingot]

A computer

[kind nimbus]

My duality shirt shipped today

[amber fractal]

here's something for your

[opaque wharf]

[flint dome]

yeah, thats what I was saying too, the pi pico acts as what one would conventionally call the southbridge

[flint dome]

[amber fractal]

It can be hard to read so I did a bit of cleanup

i just realized

[reef ingot]

Oooooh

Thanks

[glass jetty]

why paper
you have drawio

[glass jetty]

why paper
you have drawio

why paper
you have drawio

[flint dome]

have you read computer arch basics and os design and all that stuff? im guessing yes but i still must ask

[glass jetty]

stop killing trees

[flint dome]

paper more superior

[glass jetty]

tree killer

[reef ingot]

Coz I made it while I was in class

[glass jetty]

laptop?

[reef ingot]

But the south brige on this is the ardvino not the pi

[glass jetty]

laptop superiority

[reef ingot]

Nha phones and laptops are not allowed for some reason

[flint dome]

yes yes i know the thing about how they cut a million trees to make one page of paped

[flint dome]

then what does the pico do

[fickle rain]

Fuck a tree, what have trees ever done for us

[reef ingot]

Yesish

[reef ingot]

The pico is basically a second cpu it does the same thing the cpu does but stuff so that the main cpu can offloded like networking stuff

[kind nimbus]

Burn a book, save a tree

[reef ingot]

Burn tree save book

[flint dome]

burn brain save earth

[reef ingot]

Burn save earth brain

[flint dome]

that... is a southbridge, my guy

search what a southbridge does

[fickle rain]

Burn a heretic, save a book

[reef ingot]

Not exactly a southbridge coz it also is used by the "gpus" for small stuff

[idle dune]

Guys.

[flint dome]

ill throw in the standard recommendation of reading Hennessy and Patterson along with os three easy steps

[reef ingot]

Thank you

[idle dune]

[kind nimbus]

🥚

[flint dome]

hmmm id argue its major task is io controller for cpu so by semantics you could say it is one but oh well

not really one to bother about definition if it deviates

im curious, what else does the gpu use it for?

[reef ingot]

Thack book

[kind nimbus]

Heavy paperweight

[opaque wharf]

I see a thin client

[flint dome]

@carmine python would certainly be happy to see these

[reef ingot]

Io is done by the ardvino the pico is more of a independent thing which other bords give it a j*b to do and send it back

It's used by the gpu and the cpu

[idle dune]

Hear me out. Take them, supe them up. Resell as Windows XP gaming laptops.

[flint dome]

i get that but what exactly though i dont understand

im being extra dumdum today

[reef ingot]

For example the gpu has to have an extra thing like see how many keys are pressed or something like it yes it is small and the gpu can do it but I decided I have a extra pico so let's put it in there

[stray dragon]

lmao

[flint dome]

ahhh okay and the arduino is the main thing to handle io

then i guess its a sort of shared io controller

[reef ingot]

Ya I forgot to add that to the scimatics but the pico also has uart to the ardvino : P

[kind nimbus]

Resell them as the ultimate retro gaming system to retro enthusiasts for a big price tag and make a good profit

That's the Evil financial advice of the day

[reef ingot]

Yep exactly

[flint dome]

i like this a lot ngl i was gonna work on something similar but a bit bigger once i got my semester exams over and got summer break

to be fair, its kind of different though

[idle dune]

Well literally because they can take mobile extreme cpus and the firepro cards these had are essential mobility hd 4870s

[opaque wharf]

https://youtu.be/-_TWFbw8XjU

[reef ingot]

I am doing it as a hobby project

[trim valve]

i have a conundrum

[reef ingot]

[trim valve]

how do I keep windows pcs up to date if I don't turn them on for weeks at a time

last one I looked at hadn't been turned on for 2 and a half months

[reef ingot]

I am gana sleep byeeeeeeeeeeeee

[flint dome]

me too, its never like my university would ever bother with this stuff anyways until i get a working breadboard prototype

[flint dome]

buh bye

[idle dune]

Though the funniest one i realized is the early FM2 Apus have windows XP drivers. So you could get an A10-5800K. 2x2gb ddr3, and a 500gb hdd to make a retro gaming desktop for super cheap.

[reef ingot]

I am in High school so I have enough time

[reef ingot]

Gn

[flint dome]

yup, but atleast i get two free months during summer

[flint dome]

[idle dune]

Like this, 50 bucks.

literally a super computer by XP hardware era standards.

[kind nimbus]

[fickle rain]

Don’t some XOC people run way newer CPUs on XP

Hence why some relatively recent XOC boards had PS/2

[kind nimbus]

Is this about the bitwarden supply chain attack?

It was only the bitwarden cli that was compromised due to a dependecy.

The bitwarden team identified the attack and fixed it within 1.5 hours.

[idle dune]

No clue honestly, but PS/2 is common in enterprise because some.places refuse to throw out their 20 year old keyboards..

[opaque wharf]

Yes

But the issue remains. If anybody here uses bitwarden cli, scrub your token if you see the ioc

[fickle rain]

https://community.hwbot.org/topic/220910-asus-rog-maximus-apex-z790-apex-15/
Thread does mention XP

[rough bloom]

NOT conumdrum

dilemma

[kind nimbus]

Yes please do

Still bitwarden is imo still the most secure password manager you can use today and i would recommend it to anyone.

[idle dune]

interesting

[trim valve]

eitherway

annoying

[true hemlock]

8th - 10th gen intel mem xoc

[brisk laurel]

i made this to those who wants a better search results
also all the search site settings no just UDM 14

[true hemlock]

also actually ddr3 xoc were a thing and was pretty fun

[rough bloom]

ye

[trim valve]

I had an idea but its actually terrible and would require rewiring everything

[rough bloom]

simplest way is probably to just run the cumulative update when it next starts

and reboot

but obv. that causes a huge delay when you actually want to use the computer

not great

[trim valve]

yee, just annoying because I don't want 40m of "the pc is on but will need to reboot"

[olive sable]

I dont understand why yall are pisting different versions of this

[trim valve]

I was considering wake timers but even then its not gonna work

because if the pc has power, then everything else in the rack has power

[true hemlock]

its why i just disable the auto updates forcefully

[olive sable]

Why yall asking me? I just turned the image from someone else

[olive sable]

Not mine

Idk

[true hemlock]

i hate when windows do shit without my consent.

[trim valve]

on one hand, sure

[kind nimbus]

That's just windows doing windows things

[true hemlock]

yeah

[trim valve]

on the other hand, if I don't let it then nobody will update

[true hemlock]

hence i disabled the auto update

[trim valve]

hell even with automatic updates I've seen machines that are >1y out of date

[rough bloom]

ye

people who

never reboot

[trim valve]

[true hemlock]

me

honestly idgaf about updates anyways

[trim valve]

need working WoL

what if I just

move everything to nix

[true hemlock]

yes

[rough bloom]

[true hemlock]

[trim valve]

time to diy a bunch of wine packages

[true hemlock]

also ehh they don't do security updates on win 10 anymore

[rough bloom]

they do

on some versions

[true hemlock]

but paid

oh right

[rough bloom]

yesn't

[true hemlock]

iot ltsc

i haven't bothered moving there yet

[rough bloom]

ye, that's the big one that still has a long time of support left

[true hemlock]

so oh well

[rough bloom]

best version anyway

[true hemlock]

^

ain't touching win 11

i think i haven't even updated most of my drivers holy shit

[kind nimbus]

I could never switch back to windows lmao

Not even if i would get money for it lmao

[trim valve]

great

tbf

[opaque wharf]

Will you use bing for a mercedes tho?

[trim valve]

7y/o thread

[umbral wigeon]

0xfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

[true hemlock]

also something is escaping containment

[kind nimbus]

For a BMW maybe. But not for a Mercedes.

[rough bloom]

oh it's not because of the Win10 vs Win11 stuff for me
it's just the least bloated version of Windows available, and as a bonus you don't have to update often and have support for long time

[stray dragon]

slime mold i think

[true hemlock]

yeah

physarum polycephalum

the yellow one

[true hemlock]

yknow what i should someday bother myself moving to iot ltsc

[flint dome]

can only run one process in foreground at a time

do not

[rough bloom]

idk if I'd bother moving
but would recommend for new installs

[rough bloom]

[true hemlock]

source?

one process in foreground is like

[trim valve]

idk if I'd prefer doing nix updates on boot or windows updates on boot

[true hemlock]

1900s era of system

[flint dome]

my bad I was remembering iot core ltsc

[true hemlock]

[flint dome]

that only ran one process because it was used in kiosks and stuff

[kind nimbus]

nixos-rebuild switch will be faster

[rough bloom]

ye Nix update should be faster at least

but still kinda bad

just fix WoL

[kind nimbus]

I prefer pkg upgrade

[trim valve]

its kinda hard to WoL a machine with no power

[kind nimbus]

Firefox

[rough bloom]

wake the power switch too then

[brisk laurel]

is it good? can i import my extensions there?

[trim valve]

I can but

[kind nimbus]

Bro you get the most customization freedom and most extensions for Firefox

I heavily tweaked my Firefox config via nix

[trim valve]

feels cursed

maybe I need a zigbee plug

[sage crag]

librewolf

[kind nimbus]

about:config has entered the chat

[brisk laurel]

omg I CANT....

[kind nimbus]

I love ZigBee stuff it works so good with home assistant and zigbee2mqtt

[brisk laurel]

gecko

its a lizard species

[kind nimbus]

Yeah Firefox uses the gecko engine

[brisk laurel]

what thar

[sage crag]

it

about config

[brisk laurel]

is that a search engine or...

[stray dragon]

hi lizard

[trim valve]

yee, i'd just have to convince a few people to let me

[brisk laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059569601144442911/1430853659939307560/ezgif-4a62ae8857e6db.gif

[kind nimbus]

It allows you to set and tweak pretty much all Firefox browser settings

You can also pre define these via policies

And NixOS home manager can also configure these policies via policies.json for you

[brisk laurel]

what about "blockers"? @sage crag
does waterfox., libre wolf, firefox support it? or does it have nuases?

[sage crag]

adblock very supported

no worrie

[trim valve]

also id need to figure out how to store stuff

also also convincing people to plug stuff in when they're done will be a pain

[kind nimbus]

AdBlock?

Just use ublock origin

I would also recommend setting up a Network wide dns sinkhole via Blocky or AdGuard Home or PiHole e.g.

[rough bloom]

[sage crag]

ttast

officer

[rough bloom]

senior wrr

[sage crag]

[rough bloom]

[kind nimbus]

Random shower thought: If M$ would bring back Windows 7 without any ai and without invasive stuff and slop with a modern kernel and modern APIs it would sell like hot cake.

[olive sable]

[brisk laurel]

Network wide dns sinkhole
how do i set it up
also ignore the meme

[brisk laurel]

@kind nimbus

[kind nimbus]

do you have a device that runs 24/7 on your network ?

[brisk laurel]

nu
i have my laptop which does run 24/7

[kind nimbus]

idk how reliable that would be but you could setup AdGuard Home or PiHole on there maybe and use that as your network wide dns server

you will need to reconfigure your DHCP server to point it to that IP for DNS and give that device a static IP so it does not suddenly change

[rough bloom]

I have a hot (or mabe rather lukewarm) take

DNS adblock is

very unnecessary

[kind nimbus]

why?

[rough bloom]

you run uBlock Origin on the device anyway

so DNS adblock does basically nothing

[sage crag]

dns not have enough granularity to block website ads too

[rough bloom]

yee

it's just effort to set up

[sage crag]

block website serving ads; oops website gone

[rough bloom]

but is worse than installing an extension

[sage crag]

it also

depending if you used a provider

gives all your dns requests to more people

i still use it because i like looking at the numbers

nevermind apparently i dont

[rough bloom]

[opaque sigil]

[kind nimbus]

mh i just like blocking all the ads away for all devices no matter if the device has an adblock plugin installed or not

[kind nimbus]

and yea i know you cant block some cosmetic stuff with dns

[sage crag]

its mostly osu and microsoft

i bet those are all from outlook

[rough bloom]

ppy

wtf

[sage crag]

ppy ye

pc is sometimes connected

[brisk laurel]

where can i safely download librewolf, waterfox, and firefox? @sage crag @kind nimbus @stray dragon @rough bloom

[olive sable]

the internet

[sage crag]

i dont recommend waterfox

[opaque sigil]

i can send you the nixos module i use for nextdns if you want

[rough bloom]

4 pings

[kind nimbus]

why all three? decide on one browser first maybe?

i would jsut go with firefox tbh

[olive sable]

https://www.firefox.com

[umbral wigeon]

What do you think about this AoS
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/weenachuangkud/FastCast2/refs/heads/main/src/FastCast2/ActiveCast.luau

[kind nimbus]

at least did not ping Vedal

[opaque sigil]

also, I hate c++

[vague sonnet]

5

[opaque sigil]

im currently compiling 208 binaries to work around the single-threaded compilation

[sage crag]

librewolf is a good privacy choice

[stray dragon]

the internet

[tender river]

https://librewolf.net/

[split steppe]

use Zen, it's up to date firefox that looks nicer and doesn't have AI shit

[sage crag]

[split steppe]

https://zen-browser.app/

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

iggly still not birthday role

[kind nimbus]

i would just go with plain firefox tbh

it gets security updates first and generally has no issues with any websites being broken or rendered incorrectly

[stray dragon]

how do you need to ask where to download browsers

[sage crag]

i dont believe you

[brisk laurel]

NAH i had enough of this browser i tired it 5 different times and i dont get it

[opaque sigil]

is this their cli

cause if so, it's shit

[split steppe]

ive ditched firefox because the ceo changed and has decided it's now going to be a full ai forward browser, they no longer care about it

[umbral wigeon]

What browser is most safest, performance, privacy for lowend potato pc, (i5 gen 2 2400, no gpu, 300gb storage, 12 gb ram)

[olive sable]

@real sierra birthday boy iggly needs to get birthdayed so random people can ping them the whole day @amber fractal

[brisk laurel]

my friend

[kind nimbus]

i disabled and blocked all the AI stuff via policies lmao

[rough bloom]

it is NextDNS DNS/53 to DoH Proxy

[sage crag]

librewolf gets updates at the same frequency as firefox releases

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

[umbral wigeon]

Google chrome spying on me

[brisk laurel]

my pc only has intel i3 integrated graphics 6gb ram and 400 g storage and 100gm left

[sage crag]

safe ✅
performant ✅
private ✅
runs on low end pc ✅

[brisk laurel]

im currently using chromium and brave

[kind nimbus]

lynx

[opaque sigil]

{
  config,
  lib,
  pkgs,
  ...
}:

let
  cfg = config.nextdns;
in
{
  options.nextdns = {
    enable = lib.mkEnableOption "NextDNS via systemd-resolved";

    configFile = lib.mkOption {
      type = lib.types.path;
      description = "Path to the systemd-resolved config file for NextDNS.";
    };

    hostName = lib.mkOption {
      type = lib.types.str;
      defaultText = "NixOS--PC";
      description = "The hostname to use for NextDNS (-- for spaces)";
    };
  };

  config = lib.mkIf cfg.enable {
    networking.networkmanager = {
      dns = "systemd-resolved";
      settings."global-dns-domain-*".servers = "127.0.0.53";
    };

    services.resolved = {
      enable = true;
      settings.Resolve = {
        Domains = [ "~." ];
      }
      // lib.optionalAttrs (config.services.avahi.enable) {
        MulticastDNS = false;
      };
    };

    systemd.services.nextdns-config-generator = {
      description = "Generate NextDNS config for systemd-resolved";
      before = [ "systemd-resolved.service" ];
      wantedBy = [ "sysinit.target" ];
      after = [ "local-fs.target" ];

      unitConfig = {
        DefaultDependencies = false;
      };

      serviceConfig = {
        Type = "oneshot";
        RemainAfterExit = true;
      };

      script = ''
        mkdir -p /run/systemd/resolved.conf.d

        ${pkgs.gnused}/bin/sed 's/HOSTNAME/${cfg.hostName}/g' ${cfg.configFile} > /run/systemd/resolved.conf.d/99-nextdns.conf
      '';
    };
  };
}

agenix my beloved

[umbral wigeon]

Also meanwhile microsoft showing graph bar that: microsoft edge is top 1

[brisk laurel]

isnt nixos a operating system?

[stark needle]

Use wget as browser or go home

[sage crag]

its a linux distro

[brisk laurel]

yeah same thing

[amber fractal]

:feelsbirthdayman:

[split steppe]

they're starting to sell your shit bit by bit, https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/1snhveh/firefox_just_asked_me_to_accept_terms_of_use_the/

[brisk laurel]

its still an operating system but uses linux kernal as base

[stark needle]

Happy shiro day

[amber fractal]

[opaque sigil]

[stark needle]

I'm gonna explode

[true hemlock]

[rough bloom]

telnet

[kind nimbus]

yea but i disabled all that shit

[olive sable]

[umbral wigeon]

Can yall flex your os, code editor

Like some reddit posts

[olive sable]

nixos, vscode

they work

[kind nimbus]

same

[brisk laurel]

i aint risking it cause of the roblox website and the 7zip fake website

[split steppe]

doesn't matter, their terms of use and privacy policy are starting to sell you out

[stray dragon]

what

[tender river]

nixos, vanilla helix

[split steppe]

i'm just holding out until Ladybird is ready for prime time

[kind nimbus]

NixOS with ZFS and Impermanence Mode and Home-Manager

[stray dragon]

the paranoia is eating your brain

[sage crag]

nixos, micro

[stray dragon]

it's a browser download site they don't have that

[sage crag]

e

[umbral wigeon]

Why everyone nixos, I'm a little mx baby

[olive sable]

e

[rough bloom]

g

[kind nimbus]

Because NixOS is goated

[olive sable]

nixos works, and always works. unless you do dumb shit but then its user error

[kind nimbus]

and if it does not work youre back in 2 minutes

[rough bloom]

always works (as long as a good NixOS module for whatever you're doing exists)

[real sierra]

your buhday?

[kind nimbus]

or just write your own nixos modules and nix packages

[sage crag]

then it doesnt always work

[amber fractal]

Yes it is

[rough bloom]

ye

[olive sable]

hi shiro

[rough bloom]

having to extend the OS to make your random app work is not exactly

[umbral wigeon]

What is dotfiles, I'm new to linux

[real sierra]

happy birthday!

[opaque sigil]

5090 maxed out finally

[kind nimbus]

well i already wrote some

works on my machine

[rough bloom]

"it just works"

[real sierra]

hiii same

[sage crag]

shr

hi

hi

hi

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1486507149780713503/happiey.gif

[olive sable]

same

[sage crag]

hello

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

sam e

[opaque wharf]

The taxes in my head

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[olive sable]

sam u e l

[sage crag]

rotate rotate

[opaque sigil]

wdym you don't want to spend a week making a vpn module

[sage crag]

https://github.com/chayleaf/nixos-router

[opaque wharf]

How do you rotate tax in your head?

[sage crag]

numbers

1 2 3

[olive sable]

NOOO

konii

noooo

[sage crag]

a b c

[opaque sigil]

it's THE chayleaf

[sage crag]

ye

cheers <-

[patent shard]

maxed out
3.4G/32G

[olive sable]

oh ye, nixos router. forgot that existed

[opaque sigil]

shhh

[brisk laurel]

ok i see

[amber fractal]

Glad I got one this year

[tender river]

chayleaf

[opaque sigil]

my 2 hour benchmark failed because i passed a directory as output not a file

[olive sable]

chayleef? where? i only see cheers, the 1982 sitcom

[real sierra]

bweeeeeeeeeee

[sage crag]

bweeeeeero

[sage crag]

pokemon

https://www.arm.com/products/cloud-datacenter/arm-agi-cpu
@true hemlock

[brisk laurel]

what it i install libre wolf in microsoft store? @sage crag

[amber fractal]

Ty for my parents for this gift

[tender river]

that is fine

[sage crag]

microsoft store explod

[sage crag]

is it yuri

is it

is it

[brisk laurel]

based parents

[amber fractal]

No

[sage crag]

give it back to them

[opaque sigil]

firefox 150 is in unstable now

[real sierra]

I could never be this open with my parents

[brisk laurel]

i have yuri recomendations but like this is simmilar to a great romance anime

[sage crag]

need defensive software design to ask idiot user if they want to change the path after they input an invalid path

[amber fractal]

My father watched DBZ in his teens

[opaque sigil]

i should do that true

[real sierra]

the only thing they know to gift me for Christmas is toblerone based on info they got from me 10 years ago

[sage crag]

i literally could not care less if it doesnt not feature love between two girls

[real sierra]

they burned any opportunities to be close to me

[brisk laurel]

i did they dont understand but at lleast they like that i read book of a different genre they said in my native language

[sage crag]

lucky, i got 1.2kg of

[tender river]

i want to kill whoever came up with that name

[tender river]

sorry i meant

[sage crag]

agi cpu for agi

[brisk laurel]

damn top security

[tender river]

i want to talk to them

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

server guy said im allowed to go after it sooner

so imma do that

[sage crag]

tpyo

[olive sable]

nothing out of the ordinary

[sage crag]

tpyo

[flint dome]

mom bought me csm box set for birthday then saw volume 10 and did not like the violence

I still got to keep it

ALSO HAPPY BIRTHDAY 🎂 🥳 🎉 🎈 🎁 🎊 🎂 🥳 🎉 🎈 🎁 🎊 🎂 🥳 🎉 🎈 🎁 🎊

[amber fractal]

[idle dune]

So what is it a wholesome romance or something?

[amber fractal]

It is wholesome romance yeah

[idle dune]

based parents

[amber fractal]

Not Yuri though for a certain TV

[idle dune]

I rmeeber my dad bought me Another

When i was like 14?

A long time ago

[flint dome]

i grew up with windows 2000 as an infant on an athlon lol and switched to linux because I didnt like windows 8 and 10

[amber fractal]

I was already reading it as I pirated the LN ages ago, but as I brought it up they offered to get me the set

[flint dome]

I did get a lot of heat for installing it on the family pc

[idle dune]

[tropic spindle]

Based

[flint dome]

I mean you cant blame me I find a random ubuntu server cd im bound to use it along with a comically positioned manual for the same

[brisk laurel]

after all these years...

[tropic spindle]

My first experience with Linux was when I was about 13

[glass flower]

where is earthfox and airfox?

[tropic spindle]

And the first thing I remember using it for was to more easily do the Sticky Keys exploit on Windows 7...

[brisk laurel]

@idle dune @sage crag i downloaded it :3

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1486507149780713503/happiey.gif

hi

hi

lizard

[brisk laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059569601144442911/1430853659939307560/ezgif-4a62ae8857e6db.gif

[kind nimbus]

Where is Icecat ?

[idle dune]

all three or just one?

[brisk laurel]

AINTNOWAY THIS IS REAL😭

[kind nimbus]

lol

[brisk laurel]

all three

[kind nimbus]

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lizardextension/

[tropic spindle]

LibreWolf is very particular

Just letting you know

[brisk laurel]

[brisk laurel]

wdym?
ehat are the differences between the 3 broswers?

[spark comet]

hi lysard

[idle dune]

Tbf Firefox is fine enough and Librewolf is just a but of extra protection.

[brisk laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059569601144442911/1448613795416244372/its_lysara__.gif

[tropic spindle]

Haven't used Waterfox much

[brisk laurel]

what about waterfox

[idle dune]

Never used it

[amber fractal]

I used waterfox only on mobile

Just to separate from firefox

[spark comet]

what's a good browser to switch to

I've been on chrome since forever

[brisk laurel]

thats what im asking im currently using chromium

not chrome

[spark comet]

you should switch to lybrowser

haha...

[tropic spindle]

LibreWolf requires you to allow each site to store data individually if you don't want to sign in again every time you reopen it, and it also blocks sites from accessing HTML5 canvas data by default which causes some images to look garbled

[brisk laurel]

very different

[spark comet]

laugh..

[idle dune]

Firefox is what I switched too because of the extensions.

[brisk laurel]

no

[spark comet]

I might try out firefox

switch to it permanently if I do like it

[tropic spindle]

I haven't used a Chromium browser as my main since 2018

[brisk laurel]

chromium is like chrome but stripped of all google stuff

[tropic spindle]

The other way around

Chrome is Chromium with even more Google garbage tacked on

[idle dune]

Use Firefox, turn off rhe AI enchanc3mnts and sidebar, remove the telemetry, set it to strict mode and dns filtering. I use Ublock Origin, Container Facebook, Container Google, and Container YouTube. Besides that I have Provacy Badger, clear urls, and sidebarly though that has lagged behind in updates so I am ditching it soon.

Besides that I use Mullvad VPN 24/7 on dns blocking settings with lock down mode on. Plus my Router is on Quad9.

[rough bloom]

chromium still has some Google stuff

[brisk laurel]

i wish im rich enough to u mullvad to pay

[stray dragon]

what the hell is this one

[rough bloom]

you'd want ungoogled-chromium for that

[idle dune]

Its only 5 bucks

[brisk laurel]

samsung internet browser

[olive sable]

Smasnug

[stray dragon]

ah i see

[brisk laurel]

its like ios equivalet to safari

[olive sable]

Thank god you can delete it

[brisk laurel]

but for samsung

[stray dragon]

yeah figured

i've just never seen it

despite having samsung devices

[olive sable]

Its not terrible, but far from good

[idle dune]

Whenever Motorola starts rola'ing out the Graphene phones I will pick one of those to replace the samesung slop..

[brisk laurel]

it just recently had a desktop version considering its only a mobile exclusive for one time

[brisk laurel]

they must not use it then or deleted it

[idle dune]

At some point I am going to setup a PfSense/OPNSense/OpenWRT router for my apartment.

[idle dune]

Its like Chrome but blander

[carmine python]

and you're goddamn RIGHT

tbh

I might start getting more active here

but not without a hot take :

Windows 8 was underrated

no like, jokes aside I genuinely find it underrated

[idle dune]

It was good it fixed alot fo Windows 7 issues. The issue was the tablet iPad kid UI.

8.1 fixed that but by then consumers where sticking with 7

[tropic spindle]

No it wasn't

[olive sable]

It was ass

[tropic spindle]

8.1 was fine after the 2014 update though

But the reputation was already ruined

[olive sable]

Initial 8 release was genuinly bad

[idle dune]

Yes

[olive sable]

Never used 8.1 so cant say much about that

[idle dune]

[opaque sigil]

I remember liking 8.1, was fun

I don't remember anything about 8 but I think I was using it for a while

[opaque wharf]

Metro UI

Phone focused marketing

Also I think TPM was from that time. Or maybe that was 10

Like, TPM is starting to get introduced but not mandatory yet

[carmine python]

...ruined by people who genuinely used a tablet OS on a traditional desktop 🙏

[carmine python]

tbh I LOVED the iPad Kid UI

app opening animations and fullscreen start menu

[tropic spindle]

Yeah and now every fucking UI does the same thing

[carmine python]

does the same what exactly (no joke I can't tell what's the "thing")

[brisk laurel]

for life???????

one time pay?

ror subcription?

[opaque sigil]

per month lol

[brisk laurel]

nah im good

imm too poor for that

good night

[carmine python]

I mean, at the time
Windows 7 was still thriving

so the consumers had the two options of

"Desktop OS" and "Tablet OS"

and they chose the tablet OS for desktops...

yea this could go wrong on many levels

[split steppe]

7 was last good windows version

[fickle rain]

Chaos Space Marines boxset?

[vague sonnet]

maybe we get source code one day

so community can do security updates

[sage crag]

fhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfhfh

[split steppe]

community already does those without the source

could probably ask chatgpt lul, probably has that in the training data

[vague sonnet]

oh nah I'm not asking that clanker for any info

[fickle rain]

@codex use IDA MCP to reverse part of kernel that needs update and make patch

[kind nimbus]

Huh no stream today ?

[opaque wharf]

We will have new physics problem before GTA VI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uUlnDjQxhg

[rancid ore]

it's at <t:1777399200:t>

[vague sonnet]

what's today's stream?

[olive sable]

Konii said a bunch of physics stuff before that sounded smart. So ill leave this problem up to her

[sage crag]

think for yourself

im not thinking for you

or for myself

[kind nimbus]

Oh ok there was no schedule yet

[sage crag]

<t:1777396736:R>

[opaque wharf]

https://mlntcandy.github.io/bime/

[sage crag]

ye bime

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

mlntcandy mention

rare

[olive sable]

Cant, too dun

[sage crag]

ye dun

[olive sable]

Dumb

Dun is dutch for skinny

Which is also true

[carmine python]

chat

to those who use L A P T O Ps - do y'all have speedstep enabled? and why?

[split steppe]

leave it on, it lets the cpu manage its own scaling better

better for battery life etc

[carmine python]

I turn it off, I hate when the CPU throttles performance because it's on battery

worst part is

[split steppe]

i guess depends what you're after, if you want to squeeze out like 1% more perf when plugged in

[carmine python]

the CPU throttles performance on battery even with speedstep off

[split steppe]

laptop cpus aren't really meant for high end perf, so i leave it as is so it doesn't overheat and drain battery

it will always throttle anyway on long tasks, because there's simply not enough thermal room in a laptop

[carmine python]

fair point

[olive sable]

Server has been secured

This bad boy is gonna run Minecraft so well with a 4090

[trim valve]

how well does it triangle

[olive sable]

Idk. Its dual cpu with 2666mhz of ram so thats worse than my desktop

But 4090

[rough bloom]

only one way to find out

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

Im selling the gpu btw. Bidding for the 4090 starts at 1500 euro

[rough bloom]

so you're keeping the server itself but not the 4090?

[olive sable]

Ye

Server was 1850, selling the 4090 makes the server as good as free

[viral oasis]

i'll buy it for 5$ 😄

[trim valve]

can I bid £5

[olive sable]

Nah

[trim valve]

total price

[viral oasis]

ok 4$ but ur really haggling

[trim valve]

ok Sam how about this

meet in the middle

$750

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

[split steppe]

@nocturne olive another gpu for you

[viral oasis]

nah nah I can do one better, -750$

See you pay me

and I get a gpu

Its a win win for me

[nocturne olive]

[amber fractal]

[opaque sigil]

I bake you a pretzel

[olive sable]

Oooh

Toast is in the lead rn

[split steppe]

sam's giving away his 4090 gather gather!

[viral oasis]

Hear me out, I'll bake u a churro

[nocturne olive]

[olive sable]

Idk what a churro even is

[viral oasis]

I'll bake u one and teach u what it is

[olive sable]

No thanks

[viral oasis]

... 2 scooby snacks?

[olive sable]

[split steppe]

i'll give u three fiddy for allat

[nocturne olive]

And how pricy is this 4090?

[viral oasis]

a pretzel

[trim valve]

Sam do you take payment in estrogen

[olive sable]

Do i look like a dog?

[viral oasis]

... should I answer?

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

[olive sable]

How expensive is estrogen even?

[olive sable]

Afunyun is bidding 1.5k rn. And if afunyun drops out i got a backup frog

[fast pagoda]

aw

A

aosdaos

[nocturne olive]

Too pricy

[trim valve]

[true hemlock]

frog was biddinf 1.501k

[trim valve]

it depends

[true hemlock]

i bid 1.50101k

[amber fractal]

The undercuts is crazy

[trim valve]

like skittles are way more expensive than vials

[fast pagoda]

_>

[olive sable]

You're stealing it from your daughter

[opaque sigil]

I haven't been able to find skittles anywhere it's been making me so sad

[olive sable]

[true hemlock]

skittles >>>> m&m

[viral oasis]

i want skittles

[amber fractal]

I prefer skittles but the reeses pieces are also good

[trim valve]

have y'all ever had giant skittles

[opaque sigil]

[trim valve]

they're like 3x as big

[opaque sigil]

[trim valve]

just about on the limit of what you can swallow without choking

[rough bloom]

[flint dome]

chainsaw man

[opaque sigil]

arch still not on linux 7 huh

[trim valve]

ye the arch users are resistant to torvaldslop and will stay on Linux 6 forever because anything newer is bloat

[flint dome]

bleeding edge they said

[umbral wigeon]

Chinese content ai farm trying to fit in thailand yt😢
https://youtu.be/LA8-8tjYf3U?si=_VZNhjbxu-_vrKD5

Youtube is filled with ai

[rough bloom]

still in testing

[rough bloom]

only uploaded yesterday

[opaque sigil]

i realised the other day i can just grab things from master instead of waiting for them to hit unstable

who needs tests anyway

[rough bloom]

I've done that recently

for llama.cpp

[opaque sigil]

i would do that but need that from flox

[sage crag]

meanwhile

me using 7.0.1 kernel

wrr

[olive sable]

Kernel go brrr

[rough bloom]

me still on 6.19.5

default for nixos-25.11

[opaque sigil]

7.0.2 came out yesterday, already outdated

[rough bloom]

will probably update to 7 in a month when nixos-26.05 happens

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

new stable release, new attempt at sticking to it

[opaque wharf]

NixOS user saying this is crazy

[opaque sigil]

though now that i think about it

it's been quite chill lately

[carmine python]

do y'all fw portable folding computers?

[opaque sigil]

the biggest kde plasma problem was solved

[opaque wharf]

I do wonder how stable a system would be when using the master/develop/main branch for every single software used

[opaque sigil]

i tried but then glibc updated which broke all my code editors since they were from unstable and i refuse to grab those from stable so back i went

[opaque sigil]

this would fall apart immediately, nixpkgs master is doable though

arguably even more than unstable since fixes come in quicker

[opaque wharf]

Looks like I know what OS to use for the secondhand nuc I got

[sage crag]

you should add environment.memoryAllocator.provider = "mimalloc"; to your config

[carmine python]

wait @split steppe enabling speedstep back on was actually THE move

[sage crag]

it totally wont prevent firefox or chromium from opening

[carmine python]

thx bro

[split steppe]

yeah it usually doesn't make sense to turn off

[carmine python]

the word "maximum performance state" sounded good in theory

[olive sable]

I wonder how much shit i can offload to my server

5000 firefox tabs to the server you go

[split steppe]

from what i recall turning speedstep off also prevents boosting, so you could lose out on efficient burst performance

[carmine python]

idk I still got above the base speed of 2.90GHz

but not by much (only 100MHz)

so ig that's true

[opaque sigil]

[split steppe]

yeh the scaling goes kinda wack

[rough bloom]

probably quite little I think

[split steppe]

generally on laptops nowadays there's little reason to change the defaults, unless you have very specific devices and cpu versions

[sage crag]

it alzo support jemalloc and grapheneos hardened allocators

[split steppe]

you rarely gain anything, because manufacturers have already overclocked it out of the factory and tuned it for best behaviour

[opaque sigil]

idk if it's because of the allocator (i assume it is) but morphe runs like a snail on grapheneos compared to pixel os

[carmine python]

my CPU is 4th gen intel btw XD

[opaque wharf]

That's not how it works. Unless you use extension that is

[sage crag]

it should be a toggle somewhere apparently

maybe check if it enabled

[split steppe]

generation doesn't particularly matter, it's been the case for ~15 years now. also most laptop cpus apart from the very high end (>$2000 gaming/workstations) use cpus that are built for efficiency and have basically no controls

[opaque sigil]

yeah i already disabled the exploit mitigation but no luck

[carmine python]

oh

[opaque sigil]

might be something else then

[carmine python]

makes sense ig

[split steppe]

yuh

[rough bloom]

even if you use extensions that's not gonna happen
unless you unload the tab but then you might as well keep it local unless you have a need to share between devices and want to run a local server for privacy

[olive sable]

elaborate.
I have 16gb ram rn on desktop an 128gb on server cuz of the RMA

Blender render farm

[rough bloom]

you cannot just move stuff between devices arbitrarily

computer not work like that

[opaque wharf]

That's exactly the idea. Just unload them all as .json lmao

[amber fractal]

True

[sage crag]

yes i can its called

psychic power

[amber fractal]

[rough bloom]

[sage crag]

basic cs

[split steppe]

watch me

[rough bloom]

as expected of immortal venerable

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/bmVbt.gif

[rough bloom]

[opaque wharf]

I don't think many of your workload are memory intensive anyway sam

[sage crag]

true

[sage crag]

do you mean sam brain or sam pc

[opaque wharf]

Yes

[proven merlin]

Well, not anymore, but afaik those with 1.3GB were still capable? But i may be missremembering..

But theoretically the early cpus with no bios update on the mainboard might.. one may dream-

[opaque sigil]

the commit is almost 7 years old, the epyc you're talking about did not exist back then

[sage crag]

that cpu is old enough to pay rent

get working

or get kicked out

[opaque wharf]

6 y/o?

[sage crag]

7

[opaque wharf]

I mean sure. 7 y/o?

[opaque sigil]

times are tough

[proven merlin]

Ah dang it. Well then one of those super high core epycs surely has enough registers to act as enough memory to idk, talk to the L3 somehow... Lol

[opaque wharf]

I guess even Neuro and Evil pays rent

[olive sable]

But ssh

Remote into server

[rough bloom]

ye

you can run programs remotely

just not move

[opaque sigil]

zen 5 has 384 vector registers apparently hmm

[split steppe]

sshfs/nfs

[olive sable]

Dont need to move

[proven merlin]

[opaque sigil]

that's 4.5 MiB assuming each one of those is 512-bits wide for the 192-core epyc

[split steppe]

modern virtualization also lets you migrate processes with near no interruption between machines

[proven merlin]

Thats enough for win95 and ie3!

[rough bloom]

for this you practically would have to #programming message

[proven merlin]

You could surf my website with that

[rough bloom]

which was the whole context

unless you just run Firefox on the server I guess but good luck

[opaque sigil]

how/where does firefox even store its active tabs

[split steppe]

sessionstore.jsonlz4

you can pretty much copy that one file from your profile and have most of your browser state kept

places.sqlite is also useful

and logins.db/.json

practically speaking, just copy the profile directory

[sage crag]

how about zen6

[opaque sigil]

contrary to what you might think, I am in fact not an amd employee

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

oh is it one of those blower style 4090s

[olive sable]

Ye

Hp board apparently

[nocturne olive]

I want a blower GPU
It'd perfectly fix my temp issues

[thorny coyote]

have u tried liquid cooling?

blowers are very loud usually

[olive sable]

they are ye

[obsidian mantle]

but liquid coolers also have fans to cool liquid

[opaque sigil]

but not on the card itself

[obsidian mantle]

same thing

roars at 100%

[split steppe]

🤔

you can get a liquid cooler setup that's practically dead silent

[rough bloom]

more fans

and bigger

so you don't have the noise from high rpm

[obsidian mantle]

not as bad as server helicopter coolers though

[rough bloom]

there is still some noise of course but that's just kinda how cooling is unless you go with some specialized solution
-# or just carry the heat far enough away I guess

[amber fractal]

New chatter

[obsidian mantle]

oh right is discord dying again

[fast pagoda]

well

[true hemlock]

can confirm

[fast pagoda]

discord is highly reliable

[obsidian mantle]

at max speed? how

[true hemlock]

but at the same time they look cool

[obsidian mantle]

i think i have biggest fans possible and they are still a bit loud on max

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/bIZZX.gif

[obsidian mantle]

however they are controlled by cpu clock speed and not temperature soooo

maybe they are overworking but i doubt

[split steppe]

controlled by cpu clock speed
there's your issue

[true hemlock]

test

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1497044635900444782/1497064522865840188/shiro-toast.gif

server dead

[true hemlock]

how even

[thorny coyote]

api latency dead

[true hemlock]

and why

[olive sable]

we're so back

[opaque sigil]

[amber fractal]

[opaque sigil]

if you're not pushing everything to the absolute limit the fans can run much slower because the water will soak up the small temp spikes

[olive sable]

lets see if the server boots

[leaden crest]

vedal wasnt kidding when he said he needed a new server

[opaque sigil]

https://codeberg.org/ziglang/zig/issues/32099 neat

[proven merlin]

Okay imma ask this before i go insane trying to completely pull off ML from scratch in pure C... What are some decent starting points or reads about idk.. making a sphere pathfind to a goal location? (Or whatever other simple ML task).. cuz while i do think going into this completely blind and making my own solutions for a thing is probably gonna lead to some sort of crazy thing, id like that to not happen in 40 years, or atleast while im still sane-

TL;DR: any good reads for fairly "from scratch" ML, preferably something that doesn't include math that was discovered while on drugs?

Kinda randomly interested in the whole evolutionary/GPRO/RL/whatever stuff, and kinda wanna play with Making my own of everything in the chain, but not have to deal with gui, and a whole physics simulation

[olive sable]

it boots

server booting is fucking terrifying tho

i cant be making this much noise at 11pm

[trim valve]

smh sam not running it with redundant psus

[olive sable]

i do have 2

just not 2 cables

[trim valve]

I can tell

[olive sable]

surely the fans wont be going at 100% even at full usage

i was planning on putting this in my room, but evidently its too fucking loud

[rough bloom]

they shouldn't, yeah

depends on configuration though ofc

[trim valve]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MUgmg4sPKY4

does this work with yours

[olive sable]

ill also have to put it in a better location, the bed is emf according to afunyun

[rough bloom]

the what

[trim valve]

im kinda suprised it isn't screaming at you for having the second psu unplugged

[olive sable]

its chilling

need to put an os on it actually. i hope i dont need to reboot for that 😭

[rough bloom]

I don't see why there would be any emf concerns from a bed

esd probably yes

so just

don't open it

or touch it

[rough bloom]

you do

[olive sable]

thats the one. used wrong term

[trim valve]

wait did it just boot into no os

fair enough ig

[olive sable]

Booted into this

[trim valve]

secure start 🤨

is that like secure boot

[rough bloom]

iLO firmware verification thing apparently

speaking of iLO

[olive sable]

first of all, can i get intot he bios?

[rough bloom]

you should try

[olive sable]

nub?

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

enub

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

ebun

[trim valve]

plug your iLO into your ethernet and you might even win yourself a rest api

[olive sable]

uhm

idk what the ilo is but the main ethernet port on the back of the server is fine right

[rough bloom]

no

iLO port

[olive sable]

oh ye the main port says ilo

[rough bloom]

ye then use

[trim valve]

ye some have shared main/ilo port

[kind nimbus]

i still got a super old 1U server somewhere

that thing is louder than an airplane and only has 2GB DDR2 ram and some super ancient xeon cpu lol

[trim valve]

i got one of those but 3u

[olive sable]

ilo is in

light blinks

light goes

[trim valve]

i should pester my uni to let us dispose of some ewaste

[olive sable]

[rough bloom]

I guess you'll have to check the IP and maybe reset auth in the BIOS anyway
I doubt it's at the default IP (and even if it is, idk what that IP is right now)

default is DHCP?

reasonable

[trim valve]

having a server sounds so cool except for the whole having it part

[kind nimbus]

i would like to get rid of the ancient server lmao

its just collecting dust in my basement for years already

[olive sable]

I knew it would be loud, so i thought maybe 2x as loud as my desktop. I was wrong. This shit is as loud as a vacuum cleaner

[opaque sigil]

i just realised, what kind of server did you buy that comes with 1400W power supplies

[olive sable]

HP dl380

2x Intel Xeon Gold 6138

[kind nimbus]

which gen?

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

And a 4090

[kind nimbus]

ok thats at least Skylake

actually not bad

[opaque sigil]

80 threads is 80 threads, we take those

[rough bloom]

dual socket + two PCIe card slots, where one had a 4090
so 1400W sounds reasonable

[trim valve]

do you guys like my server

[rough bloom]

screw

[kind nimbus]

this is my current production main server lol

[olive sable]

Im probably replacing the single 4090 for dual 7900xtx or something similar

[trim valve]

sam did you consider my offer

[olive sable]

Well

I dont think i want to take estrogen

[true hemlock]

this is really common

[trim valve]

donate it to the local fish

[kind nimbus]

not it does not consume enough power

does not make power bill go brrrrr

[trim valve]

or the frogs

[true hemlock]

especially from lga 3647 and onwards

[trim valve]

what power bill

[true hemlock]

server hardwares usually target double the PSU capacity from predicted constant load draw

[kind nimbus]

oh you're stealing the neighbours electricity

smart

[true hemlock]

for half the draw so you get the best possible efficiency

[olive sable]

Damn. Thats expensive

[trim valve]

who the hell is buying vials monthly

[olive sable]

Idfk

I dont know anything about how estrogen works

Id prefer being paid in money tho

1.5K worth of estrogen shipped from the UK is gonna make the feds ring my doorbell

[trim valve]

that would easily be like 90 vials

[split steppe]

what's your workload?

[trim valve]

wait i might be too tired for math

math wrong

25+ vials

[olive sable]

how much per vial?

[trim valve]

depends on what you get

tl;dr you can get cheaper stuff that you have to inject more often, or more expensive stuff that you inject less often