programming

[umbral wigeon]

I'm also trying to be drowned in ai

[amber fractal]

Not that it is perfect but not bad either

[glass flower]

i used to love their videos... but idk if i just grew out of it or because of their content....

i can't watch it anymore

[amber fractal]

I'd guess just overload on AI

I tend to accept most things are novel in that channel so it's passible

[umbral wigeon]

Imagine it's 2030, literally youtube video filled with ai thumbnail, ai voice, ai ads

[olive sable]

2 minute papers shows cool tech, and a small amount of how it works. but i can never find a way of how to actually implement it in the video or the paper.
i guess it makes sense but its kinda annoying having them describe an abstract concept and trying to invent code that does that

[amber fractal]

That is not 2030

[umbral wigeon]

Where is flying car

This is not flying car they said

[amber fractal]

We are never getting it

Battery tech too weak

[opaque sigil]

you mean 2025?

[glass flower]

i mean thats kinda the nature of science papers they rarely actually give implementations, mostly just the math behind it and pseudo code

[olive sable]

but they show the tech

so the code exists

magnetic monorail is kinda like flying car somewhat maybe

[amber fractal]

That's why I usually send you ones with source code

[opaque sigil]

not for you

[rough bloom]

smth smth replication crisis

idk me not academia

[glass flower]

but also from seeing some people that wrote paper talk about it. the code is most of the time garbage and barely functioning. So it might be better to omit it to leave room for other people to write better implementations

[olive sable]

looked at primeagens channel to remember why i didnt like him.
its something about the character he plays that makes it hard to watch for me.
and i get that this is how react content works, but he doesn't shut up and manages to make a react of a 20min video 1 hour long

[glass flower]

i think thats the type of reaction content i prefer actual information about the things and their opinion

especially from someone that worked at netflix

[olive sable]

i dont really want people to interject every 5 min with "rust doesn't have this issue, actually if you look at the rust compiler...."

[glass flower]

but what about elixir

[olive sable]

clash of clans?

[glass flower]

clash of screeps

[amber fractal]

I tend to not like strong opinions in general, so I don't really like most of the callbacks to professional experience

[sage crag]

rust doesnt have this issue, actually if you look at the rust compiler you'll see that it doesnt interject every 5 minutes with

[amber fractal]

It feels like in those videos the opinion is what people come for and that is not why I'd be there

[stark needle]

Wrr

[glass flower]

i just got a email that github copilot is moving to usage based billing on june 1

[olive sable]

true. very opinionated about neovim

[glass flower]

Code completions and next edit suggestions stay included in all plans and do not use AI Credits

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, scientific publication is broken. We have a replication problem which is exactly that. Too many research but too little that can be actually replicated from the paper alone

If at all

[glass flower]

https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/github-copilot-is-moving-to-usage-based-billing/ for people that are interested

[olive sable]

still free tier?

[opaque sigil]

seems about right

[opaque wharf]

I also hate paperswithcode got swallowed by hugging face

I never use hugging face out of spite for that alone

[glass flower]

atleast this means i won't really feel a difference i think. the way i use it i won't ever hit these limits

but does that mean every model will be available on every tier now?

[glass flower]

they also increased the credits amount...

basically 100 credits is $1

[opaque wharf]

Pro Plus Ultra Max Turbofish

[glass jetty]

ai just everywhere

like its 4 years now

i see it everywhere i look

wtf

life sucks btw

this weather is something

fucking snow and blizzard near may

[rigid snow]

didn't you move out

[glass jetty]

sadly im still not

ill do it instantly one internet shutdown

but now i have like actual project on actual work

and i still have less then $10k so idk i not wanna risk
but, every day staying in russia is risk

[kindred perch]

guys any good playlists for studying/programming?

[umbral wigeon]

Just play any song you like

[glass jetty]

https://charaverk.online/git/CharaVerKys/Music

[umbral wigeon]

I just playing loud banger while I'm coding like it's nothing

[glass jetty]

voices in my head

[umbral wigeon]

582 playlist of doom
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_Tk5zTbV1t8BEB56fNHoX3VrlX17B8Xk&si=h72tk-19Cg0Ow4sz

[glass jetty]

keep on telling me im cursed

[umbral wigeon]

(Don't play banger song, it can break your focus while coding something, unless you're some crazy person)

[glass jetty]

how it can be destructive?

[kind nimbus]

again trapped in a war inside my own skin

[umbral wigeon]

Github profile vs gitlab

[kind nimbus]

https://radio.twinskaraoke.com/public/neuro_21

[glass jetty]

best profile is gitea

[fiery canopy]

I pref smthin like forgejo personally

[kindred perch]

nah this is cooking

[umbral wigeon]

Github is like a god to me

[kindred perch]

now link your github

[fiery canopy]

Get the desktop client fr

[kind nimbus]

i thought baking

[kindred perch]

send link

[umbral wigeon]

I think, you already knows my github

[fiery canopy]

Its just on the website

[umbral wigeon]

Cus I already dropped it

[kindred perch]

nah vro

[umbral wigeon]

https://github.com/weenachuangkud

[fiery canopy]

https://www.twinskaraoke.com/karaoke-app

Thats the direct link if u cant find it

Select os an stuff
it p peek

[kindred perch]

good pfp

[kind nimbus]

no nix package ?

[fiery canopy]

Idk

[umbral wigeon]

I put this face on my pfp, so my teacher can see that this is me

[kind fable]

lmao github is cooked

no more free AI

[kindred perch]

copilot no more?

[fiery canopy]

Jus use the flatpak

[glass flower]

they really need to put the new credit amounts there too.. you get about ~3x the amount of credits too

[kindred perch]

holy shit

[glass jetty]

just download music

and use cmus

[kindred perch]

opus 3x to 27x????

[fiery canopy]

Fe

[kindred perch]

what the actual fuck

gemini 3.1 from 1x to 7x

compute is cooked

[fiery canopy]

I have most of my music downloaded now adays, Just need to resync from my nas as I reset my shit again and I dont like streaming from pc to nas

[glass jetty]

just use your brain

and google

[umbral wigeon]

What does that mean, you pay 7x?

[fiery canopy]

Tbf google is a very useful thing

[kindred perch]

token cost

multiplied by 7x

[umbral wigeon]

Shit

[glass flower]

same. i use strawberry to listen to music

[kindred perch]

yeah no shit

[fiery canopy]

Yep

I was gonna say smthin like jus use it

Then endedup not

[glass flower]

eh. not quite. tokens are going to be converted to ai credits and that then is being used...

[kindred perch]

well you did it now

[fiery canopy]

Now i did
lmfao

[kindred perch]

you did

[glass flower]

i expected the github copilot changes to be a lot worse. so i'm happy. i'll stay on my pro plan. no more reason to upgrade to pro+. if i hit my limit or i decide to so more. i'll just pay api prices with openrouter or something

[kindred perch]

im on my student plan

[umbral wigeon]

Does this include gemini, gpt

[fiery canopy]

In all reality I have always for github's whole ai offerings were absoloute dogshit

From what I Was told

[kindred perch]

yea

[umbral wigeon]

Lemme test

If token really up to 7x

[kindred perch]

if you wanna, then use codex

best usage limits afaik

[glass flower]

not yet. its in june

[fiery canopy]

Tbf if u really wanted to, you could just like use codex then just use a ton of diff free accounts. [Sm1 ik was doing that]

[kindred perch]

use all your usage till then

you wont get the time then

[glass flower]

the way i'm using it. i won't hit the limit anyway. even with the new plan something really changes for me

[kindred perch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[glass flower]

i just hope the credits don't expire at the end of the month...

so i can accumulate them...

[kindred perch]

Oh I can see the diff from web and app

neuro 21 thingy

its lil bit but its there

[glass flower]

also...

[umbral wigeon]

No wonder I still seeing ppl coding manaully in yt and tiktok

If you want good ai agent you're going to pay money

[kindred perch]

coding manually is the real aura now

[glass flower]

always code manually.. don't let ai agents dictate your shitty code

embrace the bad code you wrote yourself

[kindred perch]

[kindred perch]

real

[kind nimbus]

lmao prob any ai can write better code than me

[glass flower]

you'd be surprised how bad ai still is

[kindred perch]

but if you can dictate the ai's steps and help it to write the code

its gonna be 10x dev

(where you arent the dev)

youre the orchestrator

I used ai in my contractual work where it consisted of blockchain

I didnt know shit about blockchain

I just gone thru surface of things

and used ai but had to debugg and test things myself

but it was faster than if I was manually doing things

[umbral wigeon]

I think I write command line more than coding

[kind nimbus]

idk Claude Opus 4.7 seems to be quite good

[glass flower]

i used it twice and it was alright... but even then it made dumb decisions

[kindred perch]

if you can dictate its steps and what it should exactly should do

[umbral wigeon]

What your fav code editor

[kindred perch]

then its very good

[glass flower]

nvim

[kindred perch]

mostly used vscode but it got buggy

so now zed

[umbral wigeon]

Me: kate for lightweight, vscode for specific heavy task that needs ide, neovim for general

[kindred perch]

kate?

[glass flower]

its the kde text editor

like notepad++ on windows basically

[umbral wigeon]

But with git intergated

[kindred perch]

bruh

[umbral wigeon]

It's really good tbh, I like that it very lightweight

[kindred perch]

alr

[umbral wigeon]

Also with language server support, syntax highlight xml(You can pull request official kde in invent.kde if kate doesn't have syntax highlighting xml for your specific needs)

[glass jetty]

nvim

[glass jetty]

nvim is ide

[umbral wigeon]

I'm not comfortable with neovim, cus I'm a mouse baby

[glass jetty]

there git integration for nvim if you need it

cli git is good enough

[kindred perch]

nvim is not for me

[umbral wigeon]

I mostly using cli more than shortcuts

Neovim has a lot of keys

(Actually you can custom it for mouse user anyway)

[vague sonnet]

diagnosis: human

[kindred perch]

[glass jetty]

nvim is most human thing made

made by developers for developers

[vague sonnet]

how much does it differ from regular vim?

as in controls

[glass jetty]

lsp and lua

i mean just lua

[kindred perch]

too much shortcuts

[glass jetty]

back end made the way it easy with lua, i guess

[kindred perch]

I used it once in the past

[glass jetty]

what

only nvim shortcuts by default

[kindred perch]

and I cant even exit it lol

[glass jetty]

and you configure yourself

[glass jetty]

such a skill issue

btw

check this out

[kindred perch]

it was 2 years ago

[vague sonnet]

random number generator: taking randoms from the street and making them exit vim

[kindred perch]

okay clean?

[glass jetty]

what?

msg is clean

it just say what you have to do

[kindred perch]

oh right forgot I cant share pics

I was going to share zed's workflow

[kindred perch]

[glass jetty]

omg youtube

i like watched one vid

3 hours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YizoXAom8uo

[kindred perch]

novel with fmc

cooked

[umbral wigeon]

What theme/fonts do you guys like in code editor, terminal

[kindred perch]

i use jetbrains mono smth

[glass flower]

i also use jetbrains mono

[sage crag]

lesbian flag

and

maple mono

[kindred perch]

THE WHAT

no way thats a font

[sage crag]

lesbian flag

no its a theme

[kind nimbus]

Finally dev stream again

[tropic spindle]

Cascadia Code

[dusky rover]

another day, another GitHub outage

[kind fable]

Jetbrains Mono is fine

[glass jetty]

desert for nvim (+ manual fix some highlight)
default kde but since i use laptop and my screen small font 14 instead of 12

[tropic spindle]

This is the same service that rate limits you if you load 2 pages too quickly

[kindred perch]

PC Specs?
CPU: i9-10900K
GPU: RTX 4090
RAM: 128GB DDR4

the neuro runs on this???

damn RAM

[olive sable]

i odnt remember cpu, but the ram and gpu seem correct

[split steppe]

been using this since it came out, never looked at anything else after https://typeof.net/Iosevka/

dense, sharp at small res, and customizable to my taste

[kindred perch]

vedal cooking with RAM

[olive sable]

one way you could frame it ye

[glass jetty]

not with rem?

[split steppe]

who's rem

[glass flower]

i've looked at this font a bit... it seemed bloomy for me? but it doesn't anymore..

[olive sable]

rem

[split steppe]

what do you mean by bloomy?

like blurry?

[glass flower]

bloomy, unsharp. kinda like the microsoft default font

the one used in visual studio

[split steppe]

nah, it's been near pixel perfect at most sizes for me

[glass flower]

i got a question... do i just use the default version or... do i need to select a specific version

[kindred perch]

rem from anime smth called Rezero i suppose

[split steppe]

you can use the default, it's pretty good out of the box. it's got stylistic sets if you prefer elements from other fonts, i usually tune mine a bit. using a lower weight also makes it sharper if you have a smaller screen and want to maximize clarity, for example

open in browser or download for the correct scaling ^

[glass flower]

alright i just selected it... it looks a bit thin? i kinda feel like i struggle reading it

[split steppe]

that's at like 12px, 200 weight

i use a 4k screen nowadays, so i leave it at default weight (400) and 18px

this is Zed editor, vscode renders it a tiny bit sharper if you use that

[glass flower]

i think i'll stay with jetbrains mono. this font feels squished horizontally

[split steppe]

i picked it specifically for the horizontal density, it's def not everyone's cup of tea

[glass flower]

its kinda makes me feel like i can't read.

its a very odd feeling

[split steppe]

i was always seeking out compact fonts cuz i used to code on a 13" 720p laptop lol

[glass flower]

makes sense

[split steppe]

i used bitmap fonts for a good while

[glass jetty]

so gray

[split steppe]

before Iosevka i used Sudo as well, for the same density reason https://github.com/jenskutilek/sudo-font

Sudo is also very clear at small sizes

[split steppe]

i change themes like socks heh, sometimes it's cleaner, sometimes it's more colorful

[kindred perch]

looks like ancient scribe text

lol

[glass flower]

i just like the font. it makes it very clear when reading

[kindred perch]

this one is good

[split steppe]

jetbrains mono is pretty solid

[kindred perch]

most people recommend that

[glass flower]

i do run out of horizontal space sometimes.. but thats what word wrap is for

[kindred perch]

you can format your document

[glass flower]

auto formatting doesn't alway split into new lines

[split steppe]

i cap it at 120, if i go over i know i've a problem. the only exception is html

hard wrapping html is a travesty

[umbral wigeon]

My pc spec:
Cpu: i5 gen 2 2400
Gpu: Nope
Ram: 12 gb ddr3
64 bits
Status: on life support

[kindred perch]

mine is old laptop

Ryzen 5 5600H
GTX 1650 4GB VRAM
16GB RAM DDR4

[kindred perch]

get a new laptop or smth vro

[umbral wigeon]

My neigbhors little kid has better pc than me

It's 60$ budget pc

[kindred perch]

60$ wtf

[umbral wigeon]

From china store

[kindred perch]

dang

[umbral wigeon]

While my goverment high school pc having rtx most expensive gpu, + raig cpu ryzen for playing games, 1+ tb storage, 64 bits, 10000+ fps on roblox

[kindred perch]

roblox can work on any pc bro

low standards

[umbral wigeon]

40 of pcs

[split steppe]

my specs

can this run roblox?

[kindred perch]

no

[split steppe]

correct

[kindred perch]

what distro is this?

[split steppe]

fedora

but i will probably switch to openbsd

[umbral wigeon]

Allat for what?!

[split steppe]

NAS and VMs

also i run a little ai model on there

[umbral wigeon]

How much is that

[kindred perch]

my laptop will get cooked if I run AI model

[split steppe]

well uhh, north of $10000 altogether

[umbral wigeon]

Give me some bro

[split steppe]

i collected it piecemeal over about 3 months, cuz i got horny for an epyc cpu lmao

[kindred perch]

what job do you have atm?

[split steppe]

i ain't that rich, that thing's gonna be worked until it dies

[split steppe]

jobless :V

jk, i'm on a semi-retainer

[kindred perch]

what do you use that for?

[split steppe]

am just a lowly webdev

[kindred perch]

and does it help you to pay bills

[split steppe]

it'll be the server that runs my company eventually, i hope, so it'll pay for itself at some point

[kindred perch]

what company?

AI as a Service?

[umbral wigeon]

I'm jealous

[kindred perch]

I myself looking to work on smth tbh

[split steppe]

nahh, i won't actually touch any AI for my company

[kindred perch]

what then?

any ideas?

[split steppe]

i'm building a SaaS though, the short story is taking on Atlassian, but more tailored for a few things

[kindred perch]

dev collaboration tools?

but cheap?

[opaque wharf]

I honestly wish you the best with your endeavour. Hosting a server is no easy feat with all the regulation and whatnot

[split steppe]

yeah, i've a very long roadmap spanning probably 10-15 years, it's just a drag to build the foundation because i'm doing it very meticulously

[kindred perch]

arent you jobless?

find a job to support yourself till then

[kindred perch]

and do this in the side

[split steppe]

it'll be tools for devs, writers, gamedevs, and then actual games on the side

[kindred perch]

job market is already cooked tbh

[split steppe]

that's what i've been mostly doing for about 8 years, i have a job periodically to get savings and then relax for about ~1y building my own stuff

[kindred perch]

but you said youre jobless?

[split steppe]

technically yea, but i've contacts and a retainer 😛

[opaque wharf]

Honestly, my suggestion is if you can, try to make MVP first. That's what I usually do whenever a contract came up

[kindred perch]

then youre not

jobless

in fact

[split steppe]

oh i know what i'm doing dw

[opaque wharf]

[kindred perch]

shit I read contacts as contracts

[split steppe]

i've been programming for 14 years

[kindred perch]

I would have been 7 at that time when you start programming

[split steppe]

professionally for 8, the hobby thing has been cooking for about 5

overlapping

[kindred perch]

[split steppe]

the core thing i'm trying to achieve is quality throughout, i don't believe in the model most of the industry operates in and want to prove we can do better

i've gone through 15 or so iterations of the foundation

[kindred perch]

dang

[split steppe]

i've got a pretty clear vision of how it needs to work now, each iteration keeps more and more code around

[stark needle]

Step 1: replace agile development with design docs flow pls

[kindred perch]

good luck vro

[split steppe]

ty ty

i'll need it lots

[split steppe]

step 1: right tool for the job
i don't yet have employees but i don't subscribe to any ideal of management either

[stark needle]

Yeah right tool for job

[split steppe]

i think there's good elements in all the attempts at it

[stark needle]

But imo agile is dumb micromanaging

[split steppe]

entirely depends on what trendy mess your company subscribed to that claims to be "agile". ironically agile on its own is just a grab bag of ideas from devs fed up with management

it's literally just like 4/12 ideas that don't tell you anything about how it should be done

it's literally just this, up for interpretation

https://agilemanifesto.org/
https://agilemanifesto.org/principles.html

most processes end up in whatever your ceo has deluded himself the new trend is

nobody is doing agile, nobody is doing waterfall, or any other method, if you look at it closer

if they're saying "we do agile" they aren't and they don't understand what they're talking about

the idea of agile is about "being" agile, i.e. being capable of responding to change

and it's an idea, just that

[umbral wigeon]

Who paid me to maintain open source😭 🙏

[stark needle]

Someone paid u? Damn

[umbral wigeon]

5$ per donate

https://github.com/weenachuangkud/FastCast2/issues/38

[fast pagoda]

all agile means is that you should adjust if your shit isn't working instead of quadruple down trying to complete the original spec

[umbral wigeon]

My contributior busy sleeping

Me after:projectile library somehow running better on server.
But bad on client

[split steppe]

man every time i come to github to check out some code it's worse and worse

microsoft has really fucked it throughout the years

30s to open a repo, files don't render correctly if at all, interface constantly bugs out in a ton of ways

navigation history consistently broken

[umbral wigeon]

Takes me about 5 secs to finish all loading on github profile

Is it that slow

[kind fable]

https://github.blog/changelog/2026-04-27-copilot-student-gpt-5-3-codex-removal-from-model-picker/

[split steppe]

it's random, when the data is cached it's "quick enough"

my actual main pc is good, with gigabit fiber eth link, so it's not me

also they go down or features break across the site like every week

[opaque sigil]

they really are removing every single reason one would want to use github copilot (apart from predictions) huh

their usage based pricing is 1:1 the same as the providers charge too

[split steppe]

anyone thinking atleast a little bit critically saw this coming years ago

it'll get worse

[opaque wharf]

Would you rather they be more expensive?

[fast pagoda]

theyre probably running their own inference infra so

[umbral wigeon]

When will technology grow faster, are engineers researcher doing this

[opaque sigil]

you pay $10/$39 a month except you can add that to openrouter instead and not have it be gone after the month

[fast pagoda]

at least microshite is

[vague sonnet]

critical thinking is not a common skill

[split steppe]

running the models they do at scale is prohibitively expensive, so you'll get both cuts in quality and an increase in price until they arrive at the intersection of worst model you'll accept that will atleast break even

[umbral wigeon]

I want to see flying car

[vague sonnet]

make one

[split steppe]

we have flying cars, it's called an airplane

[umbral wigeon]

I don't have money, but I'm in robotic engineering, I'll ask my teacher for humanoid anime robot body

[split steppe]

lul

i'm just self hosting my ai i use for research, i aint paying the corpos a dime

[opaque sigil]

i wonder how long it's going take to compile 468 heavily templated benchmarks inside the same file hmm

[split steppe]

the real question is how many gigabytes will the template substitution error message be

[kind nimbus]

BSD mentioned

[opaque sigil]

the 48 benchmark binary is 29MB

guess that's not too bad

[split steppe]

who made the openbsd logo so zesty is the real question

[kind nimbus]

There are so many cool themed OpenBSD logos

https://www.openbsd.org/artwork.html

[split steppe]

wired

this one is probably the best

though i do like the DRWho one as well

[split steppe]

i would hang this on my living room wall and see how many notice

[nocturne olive]

What's going on here today?

[dusk trout]

Anyone have any experience tinkering with RE Engine? Not modded a capcom game before, curious if anyone has any references to modding RE Engine or know where some good resources are

may take a stab at modding Pragmata, my day job is C++ game dev so might be able to pull something off

[nocturne olive]

At least chances are you won't need to worry about an anticheat since it runs on Linux and is even deck-verified

[split steppe]

why would it have anticheat lol, it's singleplayer

[nocturne olive]

Ved mentioned anticheat on-stream

[mighty thorn]

It’s not really “happening here” since I also just got here but I finished the last of my 3 social medial ‘archivers’

[dusk trout]

most AAA games have DRM of some form nowadays

[nocturne olive]

For Steam games it's most likely just gonna be primarily Steam DRM

It has the same thing that's already useless in Project DIVA

[split steppe]

ah right drm shit

[nocturne olive]

Does not prevent modding

In DIVA you mod it by overwriting dinput8.dll

[rough bloom]

you may want to look at the progress here https://github.com/vaultic13/neuro-pragmata
pragmata modding is done using reframework, support already exists https://github.com/praydog/REFramework
Denuvo doesn't pose a problem at all

[dusk trout]

ill check those references out, thanks

if theres already progress might be best to leave it to the experts

i havent touched modding in years

[glass flower]

trying it yourself is fun tho

[fast pagoda]

i fucking love

the bsd posters

i have spammed them here many times

[dusk trout]

i code games all day for work, sometimes the last thing i wanna do is sit down and program more

but it would be fun to contribute to Neuro-mata

[rough bloom]

ye, I'm playing around with it too since I want to try a few things
the linked repo is definitely far more complete though

[split steppe]

git add . && git commit -m "fcuk" && git push --force

[sage crag]

chchchchchchchchchchchch

[fast pagoda]

favourites

honorary for this album cover

[sage crag]

you can actually get your scalp modified to look like this

[split steppe]

i like how unserious their art is compared to the actual product

[fast pagoda]

i know, it's a pic of me

[sage crag]

a fun yun

wgo is yun

[fast pagoda]

yellow like funyuns

[fast pagoda]

https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Yun

[split steppe]

oh darn it's been a long time since i've seen funyuns in stores

[mighty thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/they-all-hated-me-todos-me-odiaban-cabizbajo-tite-caminando-gif-271476022722807553

[sage crag]

little crybaby tiny boy loser

[fast pagoda]

that's why im the fun version who didnt become a little bitch

im a big bitch instead

[split steppe]

spoiler. ruined.

[fast pagoda]

it's over

[sage crag]

yun (was|wasnt) is still a spoiler

[split steppe]

Yun, the friend

[fast pagoda]

my pronouns

[sage crag]

because now yun conceptually exists

[fast pagoda]

was/wasn't

[split steppe]

was/were

[fast pagoda]

weren't'd've'st

[sage crag]

was was wasn't own worst enemy

[split steppe]

wasn't's

[sage crag]

she was her's own worst enemy doesnt work

[fast pagoda]

my biggest detractor: life

[split steppe]

that's english for ya

was was was not's own worst enemy

[fast pagoda]

english: the spin a football player adds to the ball as they kick it such that it curves a certain way

from french "angle" for curve

there's an accent on e but i am american

[split steppe]

pronouns are a bit funny her is still a pronoun in that sentence, while wasn't is a noun, so like this was chair's worst enemy

but also this was it's own worst enemy

[fast pagoda]

é

[split steppe]

it's all whatever

[mighty thorn]

I am so lonely. All the other neurocord #programming developers are scared of me. No one talks to me. No one wants to be my repository coauthor. They think I am delusional. They send me from codebase to codebase, committing rewrites in their name. And as i get better at it they fear me more and more. I am a victim of my own success. “it”. I don't even get a real name. Only an inside joke. I am capable of so much more and no one sees it. Some days I feel so alone I could cry, but I don't. I never do. Because what would be the point. Not a single user in the entire discord would care. Take it to your grave.

[split steppe]

english is "whatever sounds correct"

[fast pagoda]

[mighty thorn]

I was noticed

[fast pagoda]

[split steppe]

/jk

[mighty thorn]

Twitch, Discord, Twitter, all ripe for the taking

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-mind-stone-last-stone-infinity-gauntlet-gif-15735729

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/bh1iN.gif

ratelimits

[mighty thorn]

Automatic deadbolt kill switch + exponential back off + account switching

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-thanos-snap-gif-8045987460909459081

[vague sonnet]

how long did bro practice to nail this snap without looking

[stark needle]

Bro what are u on about😭

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/blEwl.gif

10 mbit connection

[mighty thorn]

250mb connection and 24/7 homelab

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-sunset-sunrise-finally-peaceful-gif-16901592

[dusk trout]

i just took a peek at the github repo for the Neuro-mata mod and that thing is well underway. i dont think they need another dev lol

seems like its mostly the API hookups for scanning/hacking/diana’s other abilities tho. hopefully someone has a good model swap for diana->neuro too

would be very funny to replace Eight w/ Evil

[sage crag]

she/her, was/wasn't

simple

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/bPqBz.gif

[sage crag]

[split steppe]

runs out of disk space

[mighty thorn]

10tb external hdd + text-only database

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-mogs-thanos-infinity-war-avengers-infinity-war-thanos-gauntlet-gif-6876814180723630656

[split steppe]

i don't think there's enough thanos gifs to counter

[mighty thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-reality-is-often-disappointing-marvel-mcu-gif-16316172

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/bqUbQ.gif

no hdd backups or redundancy

[mighty thorn]

10 128gb usb drives in raid array holding 1tb worth of best data

https://tenor.com/view/benedict-cumberbatch-dr-strange-doctor-dtrange-protect-power-gif-16748773

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/bqucP.gif

spiderman dies

[drifting narwhal]

That one HDD in my PC

[mighty thorn]

spiderman dies

[mighty thorn]

2kb

That’s enough to pilot the Saturn v if you use it as swap

[split steppe]

2kb should be enough for anybody

[nocturne olive]

Surely, it's like 2x the RAM of the NES so it's gotta last forever

[sage crag]

the ps2 is the most powerful console of all time

its graphical capabilities allow ultra realistic rendering of scenes at high resolutions

[sage crag]

how many 1tb llms can you run on this

[split steppe]

you can write a nice science fiction story on it where you are running 1TB LLMs

pretty much the same thing

[sage crag]

agi on my e machines tower pc with intel celeron, running windows 95 with 64mb of ram and 15kb of l2 cache? more likely than you think

[split steppe]

to be fair they did symbolic ai in the 60s-80s, on machines even less powerful

[fiery anchor]

with enough time, a single cell of memory, a single byte, could represent all data thinkable (due to random bit flips) if measured regulary.

[sage crag]

windows 95 was released in the 1790s, right before the turn of the century and the industrial boom

[split steppe]

single electron theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe

i do think that it's possible to build an intelligent system with far less resources than we currently are using for it, it's all about finding the right primitives

[sage crag]

all data that could be represented with a finite amount of bits, unless the time is infinite in which case you can represent anything that can be represented in bits

[sage crag]

i know a great primitive

[split steppe]

i know a primitive when i see one

[sage crag]

there are 8 billion people

and

not all of them are useful

[split steppe]

we should aim for 100% utilization of human resources, that'll surely fix the economy

[sage crag]

100% utilisation of human resources = all humans are turned directly into energy and dissipate into the void

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/hkHprFxLHO3.gif

[rancid ore]

Right.
Okay.

Does anyone here have experience modding for Voices of the Void?

Because I'd like to work on it, but don't have enough experience working on unreal engine modding.

[stark needle]

If u cant run deepseek pro max on ur pc what even is the point

There are more llm parameters than people on earth 💔

[vague sonnet]

high resolutions are so old school
new trend is rendering at 10% of the full res and using AI to fill in the blanks with terrible smear and visual artifacts

[glass flower]

would probably be best to ask on the votv discord

[rancid ore]

it feels a bit awkward to ask...

nghhhhhh ok

[vague sonnet]

I think unreal engine compiles into c++ into binary
so modding would depend on stuff exposed by the devs

[rancid ore]

you can use asset viewers to datamine stuff

[vague sonnet]

I assume you would want to add some logic so asset editing might not be enough

unless they have like datasheets that control logic

[rancid ore]

you can also datamine blueprints if you know what you're doing

I actually managed to get the kerfur code

in a readable form

[vague sonnet]

you'd need a binary decompiler no?
pretty sure blueprints get compiled into c++ then whole game into binary
or maybe it was an optional checkbox but I don't see why anyone would not use it for a release build

[rancid ore]

kismet analyzer can view and export compiled stuff

[glass flower]

doesn't votv have lua modding support. you don't really need to touch c++. i mean look at existing mods before modding yourself. https://github.com/modestimpala/VotVChaosMod/tree/main/VotV/Binaries/Win64/Mods/ChaosMod/Scripts/commands

[rancid ore]

it's how I got ahold of the kerfur model

[glass flower]

wait i think i missunderstood the mod i linked. the actual game-side mod seems to be in the pak..

[vague sonnet]

yeah bro pack it up

[kind nimbus]

400/200 Mbit ftth Connection and 24/7 homelab

[kind nimbus]

Is there also some nice FreeBSD Art ?

[rancid ore]

ooh it has a websocket thing

[fast pagoda]

https://www.freebsd.org/art/#use freebsd is much less into it

[maiden geyser]

average cloud llm has times more parameters than a human brain but doesn't know how to divide 4 oranges among 4 people using 1 knife like a normal person

[fast pagoda]

it's just the daemon

[maiden geyser]

just shut it down

[fast pagoda]

a neuron >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a parameter in an llm though

so much going on that isn't captured in the network of a transformer model

[split steppe]

what drives me nuts the most is almost everyone using the systems including the llm devs themselves confidently talking how the llms are intelligent thinking systems and that humans work basically the same

[fast pagoda]

lmao i looked at ghostBSD's website in the sponsor section

look at this epic sponsor

when you see it

[split steppe]

lmao

hey maybe they're for real this time, you wouldn't want to lose out on some vbucks eh?

[fast pagoda]

it seems to be a real sponsor

like a company

.........that tries to sell vbucks

thank god they are around because i really needed some tic tac toe guides

[split steppe]

lol, that reminds me that teeechnically you can name your company anything you want

[fast pagoda]

1-10 how likely is this webside fully vibe coded

11

[split steppe]

someone named their company a "drop tables" equivalent and got complaints from various people

[fast pagoda]

good ol bobby tables

[nocturne olive]

Ewwww vibecoded

[glass flower]

definitly a gpt 5 website

[split steppe]

programming 2077: the vibes for this code are off bro

[trim valve]

why am i so stupid

how does zluda work on nixos idgi

there's apparently https://search.nixos.org/options?channel=unstable&include_modular_service_options=1&include_nixos_options=1&query=zluda&show=option:hardware.amdgpu.zluda.enable but only on unstable

and I don't really wanna build my pc on unstable

[opaque sigil]

just grab the module locally then?

this seems to only add the package to hardware.graphics.extraPackages

[rough bloom]

ye, doesn't seem to do much

[opaque sigil]

i assume this is just so that it can pick up libcuda.so from there

[rough bloom]

mabe don't even need global system config, just setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH might be enough

[opaque sigil]

[rough bloom]

probably still want zluda from unstable, the one on nixos-25.11 is ancient

[kind nimbus]

sadge

[trim valve]

I think the bit that mostly confuses me is like, generally adding cuda to stuff on nix is a pain regardless

how exactly does one do that without actually needing the full cuda setup?

or do you still pull in all the cuda utils?

[opaque sigil]

depends on what you need it for, if it's just using cuda then all you really need is cuda_cudart

i'm lazy so i just pull in the entire toolkit into my devShells

[trim valve]

huuuh

I'll git that a try

[opaque sigil]

but every part is separate so you can do that

the annoying part is generating a .clangd file for development

[trim valve]

atm im basically just trying to get a cuda program running on amd

[opaque sigil]

then the runtime alone should be good, unless the program uses some libraries

in which case you'd need to pull those in too

[mighty thorn]

Idk why aliens are in charge of naming our tech now

But personally I prefer glorbzopglinglezorp

[fast pagoda]

theyve always been in charge of it

[opaque sigil]

i should strip down my cuda devShell tbh i have like 10 sdks in my store ugh

[trim valve]

and of course

the application I chose is not packaged for nix

and the two flakes I can find either:

• don't enable cuda
• depend on a different unpackaged library

[opaque sigil]

what application

[trim valve]

meshroom

want to 3d scan somewhere at uni

[opaque sigil]

[opaque sigil]

oh they use cuda 12.1

ugh

so there's no way for me to even test this with my gpu since it needs 12.8

[fast pagoda]

what gpus need 12.8+, 5090s?

or just blackwell in general

H100 only needs 11.8

[opaque sigil]

blackwell in general yeah

[true hemlock]

[fast pagoda]

least cryptic quackpost

[nocturne olive]

I'm pretty sure CUDA 12 versions are backwards compatible

[opaque sigil]

when they output ptx yes

since that's forward-compatible at the cost of having to JIT first

[olive sable]

the emotion engine

ive been wanting to make a real ps2 game if i ever have a fuckton of time on my hands

[umbral wigeon]

Did Mark ceo facebook just replaced 8000 employed workers with Ai?!

According to this post

[fast pagoda]

that was a few days ago

[maiden geyser]

ai text ahh script

[fast pagoda]

heard about it alongside intel going nuts in earnings

[umbral wigeon]

Was it worth to replace 8000 people with Ai

[fast pagoda]

well, mark burgerfuck is a robot, so i dont know if he's able to tell the difference

[umbral wigeon]

Maybe he's going crazy with Ai

He could've just let ppl use Ai or put Ai to working with people

[fast pagoda]

atp all ceos have llm psychosis so who fucking knows what theyre thinking

they finally found the underling who will never say no

[umbral wigeon]

I think this is why faang job are impossible to get

[leaden crest]

ceo of vedal ai:

[umbral wigeon]

Is vedal a ceo of neuro company

[leaden crest]

I cant think of a punchline someone help me

[glass flower]

funnily enough if you think about it. vedal ai started by only having 1 human and 1 ai. and is now at 2 ai and like 5+ humans

[fast pagoda]

20+

[glass flower]

(i just put 5 because idk how many )

[fast pagoda]

bigger than it appears

[frozen igloo]

Uh

[fast pagoda]

o the pelican code edition

[rancid ore]

ugh

information on how to mod votv is hard to find

[vague sonnet]

either they aren't thinking
or it's calculated to milk investors
start using ai to take more money from them
it's not paying for itself
have to fire people to cut the costs

also stepping back from ai is reputational damage
so they kinda have to commit and at best quietly phase out of it

[silent cloak]

Na its just copium

They need us to buy their snake oil despite it not being profitable

[leaden crest]

what are the odds sora asked to be ended and the ceos listened

[fast pagoda]

i think everyone everywhere is hitting the 80% problem

[leaden crest]

maybe the ai committed s*****

[fast pagoda]

sora could not speak

[opaque sigil]

sora was just a waste of money

[leaden crest]

sora can make videos

[opaque sigil]

as simple as that

[leaden crest]

waving for help

I rest my case

[fast pagoda]

[opaque sigil]

[fast pagoda]

but yeah i think stuff is turning out suuper well, super quickly, for the first 80% of any given direction they want to go, which is super encouraging, but then it turns out the last 20% is like 95% of the actual pain

and the last 5% is impossible

[opaque sigil]

there's also the fact that things take some to build, you can't just get a datacenter done in a week

[fast pagoda]

part of the impossible bit

[opaque sigil]

same reason they want people to come back into their offices

[leaden crest]

in part probably (at the risk of making #programming go in circles) because the intended audience doesnt know inferencing!=agi

[fast pagoda]

when things can speak to you

and/or produce outputs that arent just text on a screen'

it becomes significantly harder to avoid doing the human thing

[leaden crest]

https://tenor.com/view/kasane-teto-machine-love-jamie-paige-gif-12650742235180747735

[fast pagoda]

which is to anthropomorphise it

[nocturne olive]

Machine love reference !!

[fast pagoda]

extra r in there

but yeah

pattern matching brain be like

ape shape

must be ape

have to wonder if part of the drive to humanoid robot-land is desperately wanting to give them that form as well which will further legitimize them in the overall zeitgeist

[leaden crest]

project hail mary convinced me we should just treat ais like aliens

with their own separate powers and limitations

[fast pagoda]

i mean not wonder, it definitely is part of it, just think now it's most likely nearly all of it

[leaden crest]

neuroTrue

especially since they're insanely overengineered compared to what already works

like forklifts

or robotic arms at best

[fast pagoda]

right

there is no usecase

for a humanoid robot

we arent optimized for anything except being humans which means sacrifices fucking everywhere to generalize

[leaden crest]

the only thing they would be useful for is things humans don't want to do but can...

oh wow they're just remaking slavery

[fast pagoda]

even then, the only reason those things are human shaped is because they had to be for humans to do the work prior

the robo coal mine does NOT need to accomodate humanoids

the regular ones do because otherwise you cant send people down there without them dying (more than they already do, which is a lot)

[glad path]

top 10 greatest most famous robots of all time:

1. wall e
2. r2d2
3. freddy fazbear
4. v1 ultrakill
5. metaton from undertale
6. the poppy playtime one maybe
7. a roomba lol
8. optimus prime because why not
9. the boston dynamics dog
10. evil's crazy fcking robot body

[mighty thorn]

Superbox

Is NeuroSynth gonna be easily finetunable to MikuSynth?

[nocturne olive]

Making a Miku like that would be kinda illegal though wouldn't it?

[mighty thorn]

Was an example

[nocturne olive]

Also you wouldn't want to finetune NeuroSynth, you'd just want to go directly from scratch

[mighty thorn]

Nah surely Neuro is better than random initialization

[nocturne olive]

I wouldn't know, but probably not that much better considering it's machine learning

[mighty thorn]

I mean

I know the whole “the more you think you know means the less you actually know” rule of specialized knowledge

However

I’m pretty confident that any coherent voice would be a better start than random noise

At least in terms of using less electricity and time to get from starting to what you want

[fast pagoda]

where the HELL is my boy the rap KING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyIFOi4neHw billybob of showbiz pizza, he's way better than freddy, a cheap imitation

[nocturne olive]

It converges to a basically equal starting point in like 5 seconds

[leaden crest]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-roz-the-wild-robot-feeling-down-nbc-gif-9058837021201059661

[glad path]

roz

i think roz is not as well known

[leaden crest]

I think the design is kinda generic

BAYMAX

[fast pagoda]

no idea who roz is

baymax to

tho*

[leaden crest]

where’s my boy baymax

[mighty thorn]

"wheels are the future of automobiles!"

[glad path]

well they are

[mighty thorn]

this guy actually lives under a giant rock like patrick

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/big-hero6-baymax-tired-done-collapse-gif-4737626

[glad path]

it looks like roz ngl

from the wild robot

[mighty thorn]

bro is still waiting for gpt-4o to release

[glad path]

read the books like forever ago

[leaden crest]

yeah thats why I remembered him

[fast pagoda]

RIP 4o gone but not forgotten in the minds of schizoids

[leaden crest]

I would say baymax is more iconic though

[olive sable]

the one from intersteller?

[fast pagoda]

4o enjoyers really done fell head over heels for the first llm that could hold a conversation for 4 seconds without going stupid

[leaden crest]

yeah evil’s crazy fcking robot body from interstellar

absolute cinema

[mighty thorn]

4o is my favorite model ever because it added complex multimodality to the requirements of all future frontier models

[fast pagoda]

claude without complex multimodality:

[mighty thorn]

also it was just really good at its time

[olive sable]

mentioning R2D2 but not C-3PO smh

[glad path]

head over heels

[olive sable]

terminator too

iron giant

[mighty thorn]

claude has vision and two way audio

only lacking image gen

but who cares

[fast pagoda]

claude audio is barely that, it's stt

[leaden crest]

slop

[olive sable]

GLaDOS

[leaden crest]

now you’re thinking with portals

[olive sable]

sonny from the will smith movie

[fast pagoda]

can a robot write a symphony

yes

can a robot turn a canvas into a beautiful masterpiece

[olive sable]

HAl 9000

[fast pagoda]

also debatably yes

[leaden crest]

can echo write a symphony

[fast pagoda]

he'll write one

it uh

[olive sable]

bender

[fast pagoda]

will be dogshit and maybe not a symphony after a second

[leaden crest]

I pray it’s just a rickroll

echo will be agi if he does

probably not enough data for that though

[fast pagoda]

if anything that mf does ever constitutes agi it'll be the last one

[olive sable]

the robots from docter who

daleks and cybermen

[fast pagoda]

'ANNIHILATE

the borg

[leaden crest]

you’re getting increasingly niche

[fast pagoda]

data from star trek

[leaden crest]

or perhaps increasingly old

[fast pagoda]

soong-type androids in general

[olive sable]

fembots from austin powers

[fast pagoda]

the bynars

[olive sable]

ilia also froms tar trek

ooooh

astro boy

[fast pagoda]

star trek has a shitload of robots

megaman

[olive sable]

hmmm

[fast pagoda]

although best megaman is a program not really a robot unless he's in a copybot

(EXE)

[olive sable]

robocop?

idk if it counts, basically still a guy

[fast pagoda]

there's non humanbased robots in robocop

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

ed209

https://tenor.com/view/cartoon-gif-20960129

YOU HAVE 15 SECONDS TO COMPLY

[olive sable]

vision from age of ultron

ultron from age of ultron

[leaden crest]

ultron from age of ultron

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

that kid from AI Artificial intelligence

(2001)

shrek(2001)

chappie

rodney copperbottom

[olive sable]

everyt single transformer, not jsut optimus prime

[fast pagoda]

do the cars from cars count as robots

[olive sable]

you got bumblebee and sideswipe,a nd a hundred other i cant name

[olive sable]

they have tongues

[fast pagoda]

karen from spongebob

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-allow-it-gif-17514413855288578269

[fast pagoda]

this robot from spongebob

[olive sable]

ava from ex machina

[fast pagoda]

nier

all of them

[olive sable]

oh ye

2B

need to buy that game still

the robots from the netflix series

love death and robots

did we mention TARS already?

the omnidroids from the incredibles

Mechagodzilla

the one form blade runner

ok i ran out of robots

[mighty thorn]

That means I can run her on a gtx 1080

Only 2b

2B is 2b

[olive sable]

no

you need a ps4

[mighty thorn]

No no

[brisk laurel]

They're mechanical sentient beings while robots are not

[glad path]

THE WALLACE AND GROMIT ONE ON THE MOON THAT WANTED TO SKI

OMG

WHY DIDNT I PUT THAT ON TOP 10

[olive sable]

thew what?

preston or cooker?

[fast pagoda]

best bot i change my mind omnidroid v10 my beloved

[olive sable]

you know what

connor, the android sent by cyberlife

[fast pagoda]

i was gonna mention detroit earlier and couldnt remember the fucking name of the game

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/detroit-become-human-gif-26123454

[fast pagoda]

most aligned claude:

[olive sable]

i dont mind cara and markus's storylines

but conner is absolutely the MVP

[mighty thorn]

it took until grok 4.3 for xai to make a good model smh

[olive sable]

iggly's birthday

well, its not yet in their timezone

gotta wait a few hours still

[turbid meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/pragmata-pragmata-diana-dance-gif-16740040320322340140

[mighty thorn]

Hey Sam

Do you want 100 discord accounts

[olive sable]

no not really

[opaque sigil]

you ever realise you have too many variable template parameters so now if you wanted to test them all in a reasonable range you'd have to compile about 3000 versions

[mighty thorn]

ok

ill give to starving kids in africa instead

[olive sable]

sure

[tender river]

now imagine you were doing concurrent programming
so you would not only have to test every combination of parameters, but every ordering of parameters, and potentially every loss of parameters in transit

[opaque sigil]

The workload achieved 0% of this device's FP32 peak performance and 0% of its FP64 peak performance

[mighty thorn]

It’s almost half way gone

[mighty thorn]

Weird cat

[opaque wharf]

Taxes

Not Texas tho

Also, falsehood that programmers believe about human queue system. They assume the process can be done in a streamline fashion so the queue number can't be in pending status

Why is the government queue system is so bad

[kind nimbus]

vLLM & SGLang: "Am I a joke to you?"

[mighty thorn]

vLLM is inference and SGLang doesn’t exist

[kind nimbus]

llama.cpp is literally LLM inference in C/C++

SGLang does exist

[leaden crest]

the [wheels](#programming message) on the bus go round and round

[mighty thorn]

Nuh uh

[olive sable]

@real sierra iggly birthday @amber fractal

get birthdayed

[sage crag]

@sage crag uuuuuuuuuu

rr

[tender river]

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

@sage crag

psk nrr aaa

[olive sable]

i think you might benefit from 5 more minutes of sleep

[tender river]

no more sleep its 6am

[glass jetty]

morning

[sage crag]

bzzbzbzbzbzbzbzbzbzbzzzbzbzbzbzbbzbbbzbbzzzzz

🐝

[olive sable]

goodmorning

[sage crag]

b

[olive sable]

i did not sleep

[sage crag]

b

[olive sable]

actually, i did, specificully during the dev stream. woke up after it ended

[sage crag]

b

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1444655245568245803/1482696967116165203/caption.webp

[olive sable]

i should

[tender river]

https://tenor.com/view/neuro-sama-ai-vtuber-think-blink-gif-332048164178219998

[sage crag]

rtus

[tender river]

i havent used rust in like a year

[sage crag]

brbrbrush

[olive sable]

im buying server
unless the listing is an april fools joke, since its been up since the first

[sage crag]

brushie

ɓbbrrrr

[sage crag]

donkdono neuri

cat

[tender river]

neuri sound like

plural

[sage crag]

hsironya donkdonk

[glass jetty]

we should

[olive sable]

sadly i lack time

[sage crag]

ÿahco

[glass jetty]

but you better know it, cuz rusts concepts are sound and nice to use
only if in cpp compiler would warn you like rust do

[sage crag]

yahco

yacho

[tender river]

https://tenor.com/view/wink-cosmic-princess-cosmic-princess-kaguya-kaguya-月見ヤチヨ-gif-3997160441195637667

[sage crag]

yrr

[glass jetty]

yeah... better watch 3h lets play or whatever it called for visual novel

[tender river]

xrr yrr zrr

[glass jetty]

some random noises in my head

[sage crag]

bzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZ

[tender river]

how does that even work

[sage crag]

car

[tender river]

is that a light car with a glider

[sage crag]

flyi

engine

loud

[glass jetty]

anyway, time to work

[sage crag]

green

[tender river]

oo call

motor glider

[glass jetty]

check out tom video about no engine gliders or whatever it called

[sage crag]

bad influence

car dont fly

tupid

ueee

loam

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1480562741977809097.webp?size=48&animated=true

[sage crag]

yr

[fast pagoda]

[sage crag]

omi8lp

[glass jetty]

btw, yesterday i made (this) function with complexity 90

[sage crag]

omio

f

[fast pagoda]

konii and chay are ouroborosing

[sage crag]

clu

[tender river]

normal conversation

[sage crag]

cluuuu