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tender river
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programming all day programming all day programming all day

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so tired so tired so tired

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i want to

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sleep

glass jetty
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yap that just compiled
but box can be moved, just &mut - no

nocturne olive
glass jetty
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so to be like std::function it has to be heap alloc Box

tender river
glass jetty
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std::function can be moved out of the scope enub

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so only Box one is std function

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anyway it can be just

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for most cases

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i think

sage crag
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use std::{cell::Cell, rc::Rc};

fn main() {
    let mut x = i32::MAX;

    let y = Rc::new(Cell::new(x));
    let yr = y.clone();
    
    let function: Box<dyn Fn(&mut i32) -> i32> =
        Box::new(|x| { y.set(4); *x = 1; *x + 1 });
    
    assert!(function(&mut x) == 2);
    assert!(yr.get() == 4);
}

enub

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all is fine

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all is happy

glass jetty
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yes...?

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since rc can be & then it even can be Fn

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but it actually FnMut i think

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hard

sage crag
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if it doesnt need to be FnMut dont make it FnMut

mighty bane
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AEAAAAAAAAAAAAA CHROMA MASKING IS DIFFICUUUUUULT

tender river
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if it doesnt need to be Fn dont make it Fn

sage crag
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True!

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let function = |x: &mut i32| { y.set(4); *x = 1; *x + 1 };
maiden geyser
tender river
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rust supports downcasting anyway so
creating FnMut but using Fn should be fine

sage crag
mighty bane
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Fn - the button on laptops?

glass jetty
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anyway, rust guys,
i not see anything else that type system related directly,
like i would describe rule about declaring something with foreign trait for local type by local trait,
or how iterators trait defined,
but it not directly about type system
this diagram is just entire rust type system?

mighty bane
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YAYYYYYYY

leaden crest
stark needle
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today i found out u can actually ctrl+v in linux shell but u need to hold shift

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bruh

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i always thought this didnt work

nocturne olive
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neuroHUH You didn't know?

trim valve
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and idk if you know about it but you can usually right click or middle click to paste

stark needle
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middle click

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what

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im honestly just gonna fully switch to linux atp

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and only keep windows for compatibility apps

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most of my work is in wsl anyways

true hemlock
stark needle
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i just run shit on wsl

true hemlock
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most of my personal use machines are windows

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ain't no way bruh

fast pagoda
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Wsl is a gateway drug so you prepare yourself

nocturne olive
stark needle
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i alr used it on rented stuff and my raspberry pi and dgx and stuff

fast pagoda
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Yep

stark needle
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and i had a partition from years ago

fast pagoda
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Mhm

true hemlock
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why rpi for ml NAHH

fast pagoda
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I think he was just saying he's used his rpi

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So raspbian

true hemlock
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also SUS must be tensorflow user

trim valve
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#baking reading comprehension

stark needle
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i mean i do know tensorflow i just dont use it

true hemlock
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based

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tensorflow suck

trim valve
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i am also a victim of zero reading comprehension

fast pagoda
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Jax only

trim valve
stark needle
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and if u use tpus

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but yeah honestly just use jax

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i think TF is mostly for colab people

fast pagoda
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I used it like 3 years ago, in colab

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Yep

true hemlock
fast pagoda
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Colab will default to using tf (or used to) for training logging

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And in general

stark needle
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also rn deepseek v4 runs on 20t/s on gb10

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it's still unoptimized

true hemlock
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how big is the model

stark needle
true hemlock
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active params?

fast pagoda
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I assume you mean flash if it's pro that's crazy

stark needle
stark needle
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bro i aint got 8 spark setup

true hemlock
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wdym slow

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that's pretty good already tbh

fast pagoda
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It was only optimized for ascend and shit I think

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They did a funny where nobody got access to it to do anything preparation in the west

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Cn labs have been doing that

stark needle
true hemlock
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bandwidth constrained still

stark needle
true hemlock
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iirc dgx spark are like

true hemlock
stark needle
true hemlock
fast pagoda
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That's crazy it's not slower if it's that low

true hemlock
# stark needle 122b

iirc there's a formula for bw requirement that also includes both active and full params

stark needle
true hemlock
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forgot what it is

stark needle
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qwen 3.5 35b-a3b goes from 50t/s --> 90-120t/s with dflash

fast pagoda
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With 620gb/s

fast pagoda
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Radeon r9700 ai pro

stark needle
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the best part is

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dgx spark only uses like 40 watt

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during inference

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lmao

true hemlock
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susge

stark needle
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so i can actually afford to keep it running

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only training uses up full wattage

fast pagoda
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Damn dgx gpu is actually fairly weaker than I thought for some reason

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The memory blinded me ig

stark needle
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also no one has run sparse 2:4 models yet on spark

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which is what im gonna try

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sparse 2:4 fp4

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use actual 1000 tflops

fast pagoda
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I get , 1534 tflop on r9700 lol

true hemlock
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actually makes sense tbh

fast pagoda
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Sparse fp4

true hemlock
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for the power draw, but people are getting 80w ish

stark needle
true hemlock
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40w is sus

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i don't have any gpu that do fp4

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wait actually i have my 5060

fast pagoda
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The 5060?

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Uea

true hemlock
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i kept forgetting i have a 5060

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was good deal at $250 so why not also its sff

stark needle
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idle wattage lmao

true hemlock
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oh, gpu

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yeah makes sense

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if whole system, no

nocturne olive
true hemlock
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more than half of 3090 power are the gddr6x

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just a fun fact

stark needle
true hemlock
stark needle
true hemlock
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and measure the AC or if it has a dc connector, do that

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that's the best way

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or

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just get those AC power measurement

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that you plug on the wall

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that one uses shunt pretty sure

fast pagoda
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Kilawatt

true hemlock
nocturne olive
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neuroThink My 3090 has a slightly higher PL

true hemlock
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if you wanna do software wattage reading

nocturne olive
true hemlock
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oc model?

nocturne olive
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OhISee MSI GamingX Trio

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neuroThink Doesn't say OC

true hemlock
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weird, the model default tdp is 350W

nocturne olive
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neuroThink I definitely have not reconfigured the PL

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-# Because the configuration daemon makes my PC stutter

fast pagoda
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That's fairly common for manufacturers to mess with

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I thought

nocturne olive
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dinkdonk @high brook

patent shard
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I think they tried fv7beta2 and said it was a little noisy for them
it is on the fuller side.. not super full but can have some noise at times

nocturne olive
sick owl
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You know, I wouldn't use it for watching tv or movies

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But RTX vidoe enhancement is great at compensating for the shitty bitrate on 1080p YouTube streams

nocturne olive
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neuroThink Do they even support Linux with that RTX video stuff?

nocturne olive
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NeuroShrug Guess no RTX video stuff for me then

fast pagoda
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The

leaden crest
opaque wharf
patent shard
kind fable
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i tried "agentic engeenering" for the first time
just vibing a project without looking at all at what the AI is doing
it seemed to go quite well with lots of hiccups, but eh

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and then i peaked behind the curtain and what the flip, how did the AI delete /dev/null, i don't even want to know

umbral wigeon
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Or Ai

kind fable
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with Gemini 3.1 Pro

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this shit seems to be entirely free

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or their free credits are big

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also it's entirely remote and not connected to anything so i'm not worried about security and stuff

umbral wigeon
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I think I gonna use gemini as autocomplete instead of agentic coding, because it can make mistake without good archit

kind fable
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honestly i don't think the agents idea is the right one, but it's interesting

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i think AI is just good at being a better autocomple than just an LSP

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LSP is fast, but dumb, AI is slow, but knows more

split steppe
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the AI deleting /dev/null

olive sable
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Goodmorning evilNya

stark needle
warped narwhal
glass jetty
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ahahahah

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i literally

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deleted dev null

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tried to screen it

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and it spectacle cant start

fickle rain
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Was it a good idea?

glass jetty
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you know, just everything that try to use /dev/null will fail

glass jetty
maiden geyser
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it's night btw

opaque wharf
fast pagoda
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marble hornets lost episode

olive sable
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i odnt care

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morning is when i wake up

fast pagoda
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no it's when i wake up

glass jetty
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am i going schizo or youtube removed clips feature?

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why i cant find it anywhere in ui

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is it because i deleted dev/null? neurOMEGALUL

rough bloom
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morning is the start of the day

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meaning 12 am

safe path
fast pagoda
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damn, that was too powerful

safe path
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(solved an erdos problem btw)

fast pagoda
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vanor staring right at me too

rough bloom
fast pagoda
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the very first one

opaque sigil
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didn't they train a gemini model specifically for this a couple months ago

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am i tripping

nocturne olive
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NeuroNoway LLMs can actually have a use?

fast pagoda
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that one is probably still looping trying to load mathjax or something in the terminal

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since it's gemini

opaque sigil
opaque wharf
fast pagoda
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DEepmind does produce useful things

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my brother is a meteorologist for NOAA and they use weathernext 2

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as one of their tools

opaque wharf
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Man, I sure hate LLM being called AI in marketing everywhere enub

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It drowns out the actual useful AI

safe path
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oh yeah, deepmind produces pretty cool stuff. i think of all the companies around, google is the only one making sustainable ai

fast pagoda
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they just have bothered to make non-llm shit as well

glass flower
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google is also so far the only company that i assume will actually still make AI stuff 10 years from now

opaque wharf
safe path
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the rest are VC backed and money sinks

fast pagoda
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they were doing it before transformer and will be doing it after, if this all implodes

umbral wigeon
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Nvidia ceo can speak thaineuro7

fast pagoda
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theyll live

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unlike many

umbral wigeon
glass flower
fast pagoda
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they have some nvidia stuff for cloud basically but they are not beholden to it for ai

opaque wharf
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And also cloud offering

fast pagoda
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mainly colab and gcloud

glass flower
opaque sigil
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gpg in 2026 om

safe path
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(gnupg getting post quantum crypto)

opaque wharf
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Ohhh, Kyber is decided to be secure?

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Because I need to update my crypto stack ICANT

fast pagoda
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me w/ rsa keys

umbral wigeon
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Nvidia ceo came thailand and give ppl free gpu like it's toys

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(Few)

rough bloom
fast pagoda
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that guy has so much money and power right now i would be unsurprised if he came around handing out full nvl72 rackservers to passers by

opaque wharf
# fast pagoda me w/ rsa keys

Again, google just published their finding about new more efficient quantum computer that would require far less qubit to crack rsa

opaque wharf
fast pagoda
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thing is like a SCIF

glass flower
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like for real LUL

fast pagoda
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oceans 14 will be heisting gemini 3.1

glass flower
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thats their tactic

rough bloom
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they advertise an air-gapped deployment as being possible

opaque sigil
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if you can afford this you will have backup power anyway

rough bloom
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so ye, keeping the model in VRAM only would make sense

opaque wharf
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The thing is, people that has air gapped and need gemini would actually buy it

fast pagoda
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me carefully weighing the server to deduce the number of micron bga packages of hbm in there

glass flower
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yeah its meant for governments and hospitals etc. so.. its suppose to be secure

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if it were loading to a disk or something someone might inject something into the model or something.. but i guess you could do the same for a loaded model tink

opaque wharf
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I mean, nothing is stopping anyone from reading from the gpu memory either if they REALLY want those weight

opaque sigil
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confidential computing FOCUS

fast pagoda
opaque wharf
fast pagoda
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unironically im sure it is

rough bloom
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I'm not sure if they encrypt anything or how exactly it's deployed, but ye, it's going to be secure
you won't have any access to those GPUs at all

glass flower
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its gonna be "secure"
i'm sure some people that will have it will literally just have a unlocked frontdoor straight to the server room LULE

fast pagoda
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colos are already in locked cages in regular dc

opaque sigil
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at the very least the connection between the cpu and gpu is encrypted (iirc memory pages too optionally) + if it notices you trying to anything weird it just insta shuts down

opaque wharf
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Yeah, data center security is no joke

fast pagoda
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if nothing else they have access control just to know who to bill the shit out of if something gets fucked with

rough bloom
opaque wharf
fast pagoda
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"yeah todd here farted on the gemini server so we've gone bankrupt. thanks todd"

opaque sigil
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classic todd

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i'm sure these numbers are correct glueless

glass jetty
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for some reasons

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so many things breaks when you delete dev/null

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i prob should restart system

fast pagoda
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mknod or udevadm

proven merlin
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Ok, i installed artix dinit tty only.. im kinda wilded out that that uses 300mb of ram just doing nothing..

Now im heavly considering alpine + xlibre repos + zfs.. buut muslc.. ig i do have zo go the Route of lxc.. i wonder how Nvidia-open deals with it

sage crag
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dentge

proven merlin
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Nvidia open does not deal with alpine.

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Welp there goes that.

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Opensuse zfs? Openmandriva? Why must linux suck nowadays..

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Well nvm apparantly they dont Support that either

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Ubuntu Out of all things support it, but no thanks

olive sable
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konii not toast

glass jetty
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that is why im no longer toast

olive sable
glass jetty
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she was first who started it and she will be one who kill it

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i mean, already neuroLurk

olive sable
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welp, i guess the real toast will be free now

opaque sigil
rough bloom
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Intel datacenter GPUs GOODONE

vague sonnet
rough bloom
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also what do they mean "AI-focused", they already have Gaudi

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NeurOhISee it is Gaudi

opaque sigil
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gaudi is closer to TPUs right

stark needle
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chat no way i managed to create a robotics llm dataset generator it's running now

fast pagoda
rough bloom
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looks like it

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no graphics stuff to be seen here

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except the media engine for some reason

olive sable
maiden geyser
olive sable
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nah

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live action role play happens irl

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this is not irl

trim valve
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glueless terrible idea is forming in my head

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how bad of an idea is it to use a usb card reader as quick auth

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its prooobably fine

split steppe
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isn't that quite common in some industries?

trim valve
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probably, but i feel like those industries do it properly rather than hacking together random oss

umbral wigeon
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This is why you don't vibe code a PR

glass jetty
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when some vibe coders come in and break working projects

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ai should be banned
allowing ai in the kernel is a joke

opaque sigil
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you say that like you can ban it

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the only thing you can do is tell people to disclose it, they'll use it either way

vague vortex
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It's a permanent fixture now
For better or worse

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Issue is some people are trying to use a power drill as an angle grinder and are shocked when shit breaks

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QA has become mandatory and the vast majority of ai vibecoders don't know what quality looks like
They just assume the tool can do it flawlessly - and worst of all, in a large number of cases I bet it does... so when it goes wrong, it super goes wrong, making the tool look unreliable when it's operator incompetence

At least, such is my hot take

nocturne olive
opaque sigil
glass flower
# vague vortex QA has become _mandatory_ and the vast majority of ai vibecoders don't know what...

i can tell you from my week of trying out vibecoding... it 100% can't create quality code LULE atleast not the majority of the time and without guidelines.
i've started to write novels to describe the refactor and issues i want it to fix just so it doesn't try to get creative and ruin my codebase.
and the fully vibecoded project i tried in c++, works... but well. it looks vibecoded to heck LUL and i'm too lazy to go through 10000+ lines of code to fix it

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so far the best usecase i've got are refactors and spelling/grammar issues. maybe the odd feature that is described in detail. but generally the smaller the scope of the usecase the better it actually works

nocturne olive
vague vortex
glass flower
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neuroNOWAYING i know right

vague vortex
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I can't imagine why that is glueless

glass flower
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yet people hail it as it can replace senior devs... i have yet to see it actually do a better job

nocturne olive
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neuroNOTED AGI is a lie

glass flower
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it can create things that work... but is it maintainable and can grow? no

glass flower
nocturne olive
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neuroThink neuroTrue ?

glass flower
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also... neuroHypers screeps update. my automatic building logic works. and my first extension is finished

vague vortex
nocturne olive
vague vortex
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What's neurosynth? Aeris go open source?

nocturne olive
vague vortex
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Ah assumed was a piece of software

nocturne olive
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NeuroSynth is a vocal synthesizer

vague vortex
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Is it possible to attain this power?

nocturne olive
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neuroThink The power of vocal synthesis or the power of Neuro vocal synthesis?

vague vortex
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Let's start with just the vocal
I've had a design in mind for a whole month and wanna fiddle with it

vague vortex
nocturne olive
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neuroThink Or if you just want a custom vocal synthesizer, there's UTAU

nocturne olive
vague vortex
nocturne olive
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neuroThink SynthV does Spanish, but it does seem like it would be a phonetically much more complex language so I don't recommend starting with that

vague vortex
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Oh no like
It'll speak english
I just want the accent

Kinda in the way you can sorta hear neuro go british in her otherwise monotone-ish voice

nocturne olive
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OhISee Accent, then you need to either do phonetic trickery or have your base voice have a Spanish accent

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neuroThink Still recommend starting off with Japanese if doing fully from scratch though

vague vortex
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Lotta cooking to do, then

glass flower
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but also you should definitely start playing YES you still have 32 days in the novice area left. after that it appears somewhere else and you might not be able to join us

nocturne olive
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neuroConfused I have no idea what any of that means but neuroNOTED I guess

vague vortex
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Just nod and say yes

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Trust

glass flower
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novice area just means noone outside can attack you. basically. after that time is done. any player can come into your room and kill you YES

nocturne olive
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neuroThink So I should start messing around with that soon ish then

vague vortex
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In the game, right? neuroD

glass flower
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there are always new novice areas... so if you can't you can't shrug

glass flower
vague vortex
glass flower
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Minamhm true

glad path
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i tried using utau once

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it didnt work

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i dont know if it was utau or the voicebank

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but it couldnt make any noise aexcept "Aa" and "ii"

nocturne olive
vague vortex
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I tried using Microsoft Sam is that close enough

glad path
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openutau

nocturne olive
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neuroHUH Weird
What voice bank was it?

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And what language?

glad path
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a teto one

nocturne olive
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neuroThink Teto JA integration for OpenUTAU?

glad path
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idk

nocturne olive
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That's the one you should use for OU Japanese Teto synthesis

glad path
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its this

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i dont know

nocturne olive
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neuroThink Looks a whole lot like the one I mentioned

glad path
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i dont think this is utf8

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i dont remember where i got the voicebank

nocturne olive
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neuroNope Probably SHIFT_JS

glad path
stark needle
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boy i need 64 cores and 144gb vram on desktop linux

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😭

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who knew robotics needed that much vram

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and cpu compute

reef ingot
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Day 9 of making my own game engine

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Hardware issue with vga not working

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Byeeeeeeee :3

olive sable
split steppe
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don't modern robotics use ML models?

minor sail
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you gotta train them and stuff

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usin ai models

olive sable
olive sable
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looking

opaque sigil
stark needle
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basically i'm procedurally generating environments and mining for expert paths from random spawn to finding a specific object

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the llm generates controls

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each example is ~50 turns

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and the environments are huge

minor sail
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wild that it needs that much vram :o

stark needle
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each instance uses ~1.5gb vram

stark needle
minor sail
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D:

stark needle
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so i need to make my pc go overdrive

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rn i only have 48gb vram

minor sail
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time for budget increase

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take out a loan for an h200

stark needle
minor sail
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O:

stark needle
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but i cant use it cause arm64

minor sail
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that's disappointing

stark needle
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the bad part is then training the actual models

opaque sigil
stark needle
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source code not available

opaque sigil
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rip

minor sail
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dang

rough bloom
stark needle
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iirc docker has support for emulation

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on linux

minor sail
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would that be decently fast though?

stark needle
opaque sigil
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assuming the cpu isn't involved too much

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should be fine in theory since the gpu has its own isa anyway

rough bloom
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NeurOhISee it's a whole Docker container
probably not horrible then

stark needle
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right now

minor sail
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oof

opaque sigil
stark needle
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cpu generates monte carlo best path

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given specific constraints

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since if i just use a* or similar it will give weird paths

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wait what

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the source code IS AVAILABLE????

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this might actually be it

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wtf

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wait can u cross compile for arm64 in unity

fickle rain
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Today I learned: Python executable isn't compiled with PIE

stark needle
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what is this paywall slop

fickle rain
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(admittedly that might just be my build :D)

opaque sigil
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sounds like a distro problem

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yea

fickle rain
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Nvm checked on Ubuntu system Python now

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There was a pwn chal I was too dumb to figure out until the submission time ran out already :D

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It turned out it was, uh, real easy

opaque sigil
olive sable
fickle rain
# fickle rain It turned out it was, uh, real easy

Simplified pseudocode (in Python cuz I am lazy)

def vulnerable_func(s):
  split = s.split(" ")
  n = []
  if len(split) > 1:
    for i in split[1:]:
      a = int(i, 0)
      n.append(a)
    return Py_BuildValue(split[0], split[1:]) # pass numbers to be interpreted as Python objects
  return Py_BuildValue(split) # Picks up regs/stack crap/whatever else depending on length
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Slopping has dulled me

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At least I learned something

stark needle
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frick it

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i'm just gonna tell codex to rewrite the entire engine in arm64 native game engine

fickle rain
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Based and true

olive sable
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this pathfinding is a joke

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what the hell

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bro is taking the scenic route

glass flower
olive sable
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his final job is to get recycled, so i guess i dont mind the scenic route

leaden crest
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sam I think you lost a triangle in the toast arc somewhere

olive sable
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nah we stopped with letterswap

glass flower
olive sable
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its just this

const spawn = creep.pos.findClosestByPath(FIND_MY_STRUCTURES, {filter: s => s.structureType === STRUCTURE_SPAWN});
if(spawn.recycleCreep(creep) == ERR_NOT_IN_RANGE)
{
    creep.moveTo(spawn, {visualizePathStyle: {stroke: '#ffffff'}});
}
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no caching

glass flower
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buh wtf

sage crag
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neuroD no caching when compute is limited

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sam dent

glass flower
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i don't think you really hit the cpu limit until you reach like rcl 5 or something and have 3 rooms LULE

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or have a very very complicated automated build script

sage crag
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if it were me

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i would definitely run out of cpu

#

on outrageous crimes

glass flower
#

i only ever ran out of cpu because of the wasm interop of c# LUL

olive sable
glass flower
#

or initial loading of the wasm file

sage crag
#

unrelated but here is my OS, it makes the screen blue and it is 536 bytes large enub

glass flower
olive sable
#

honestly

#

not a bad idea

warped narwhal
olive sable
#

i want to make a 2 lane system of one-way roads, so they never try to go into each other and block themselves

sage crag
warped narwhal
glass flower
warped narwhal
olive sable
#

ill see what i can do

sage crag
olive sable
#

i would need to place roads in a way where nothing parks in the middle of a road

warped narwhal
olive sable
#

not me

sage crag
#

definitely not me

warped narwhal
olive sable
#

no

#

your brain is round

#

like the . in a ;

sage crag
#

those two things arent contradictory

warped narwhal
#

sacrilege!

olive sable
#

semicolon

#

is just

#

, and .

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accept your body for what it is

warped narwhal
#

Madge it's so much more than that

sage crag
#

so

#

life protip

#

hoodies are not effective as a means of defense

warped narwhal
#

against?

olive sable
sage crag
#

dont try using a hoodie against a vampire

#

it doesnt work as well as you might think

olive sable
#

hoodies are defene against cold. not vampires

#

also agaisnt rain if the wind is not too bad

amber fractal
#

hoodies are a gamble for the vampire UNFOCUS

olive sable
#

remember how i bought clothes a weekago

#

apparently one of the hoodies they have me is a size too big

amber fractal
#

programming (real)

olive sable
warped narwhal
sage crag
glass jetty
olive sable
glass jetty
#

btw, was debugging why my tun wont open just to realize i made pacman -Suy and i have to restart os, not just DE neurOMEGALUL

sage crag
amber fractal
minor sail
#

The past month I reinvented lodash's omit function :/

glass jetty
minor sail
#

when the project was already using lodash

olive sable
sage crag
#

not if i have anything to say about it

#

random program generator

#

go

#

fuzzing x86_64 1 instruction at a time

amber fractal
olive sable
#

with games you only get stuff that hasnt been made before if the concept of the game is very obscure, or if the budget is through the roof

#

nobody wants another minecraft clone, but in the category of voxel games there have been interesting variations

amber fractal
#

Spend all of your think thinking until you deflate into evilDentge and then vibecode the game Minamhm

sage crag
#

let me create a game that has never existed before

#

nevermind

#

i give up

olive sable
#

that was fast

sage crag
#

difficult

glass jetty
#

make game about rewriting in rust

sage crag
#

it exists its called

#

life

olive sable
#

i know that game, its called real life

#

🥈

amber fractal
#

The thing I'd want to try eventually is actually realize the universal item concept that the blockchain enjoys were hyping about.

#

But instead of items, your throwing yourself from server to server

olive sable
#

your 🥈 emote reaction was 🥈 because i already posted 🥈 before you reacted

glass flower
sage crag
#

your internet may be bad because i reacted a good 2 seconds prior

warped narwhal
glass jetty
sage crag
#

fals

glass jetty
#

tru

glass jetty
amber fractal
amber fractal
glass jetty
#

anyway, gn chat

sage crag
#

its 9pm

#

the day is just beginning

amber fractal
glass flower
glass jetty
#

its almost 27th april

sage crag
#

mr beast should spend $1m on bringing screeps into real life

amber fractal
olive sable
#

the problem with konii appearing is that we dont know what she looks like

#

she could be anyone

#

anywhere

sage crag
#

i look like this

#

pleas be aware

olive sable
#

no

#

you look like

amber fractal
olive sable
sage crag
amber fractal
olive sable
#

took a while to find

stark needle
umbral wigeon
#

Take vedal coding in python as an example, he did have autocomplete turn on while coding manaully and finish llm in not even an hour

#

And also got it working + he knows what he's doing

#

Unlike telling ai to do it, after it finished
You're gonna read/review something you don't expected ai to write or you don't know why ai write code like this, and what the purpose

#

(Unless you're some god reader, you can use ai to vibe code it's fine)

olive sable
#

within limits

umbral wigeon
#

And then random ai bro in the comment: "Ai replacing all developers, SWE is cooked(emoji)"

proven merlin
#

Ok i need os suggestions.. anything but windows is ok. I need zfs and xlibre, i need support for my rtx 2060, id like JWM or MATE but others are fine aslong as it aint gnome, and id like to sit on desktop around 100-300mb ram used, lower = better.. oh and no snap/flatpak..

#

I normally run ArchLinux, but i wanna experiment with something else.. any suggestions?

#

I was thinking freebsd but idk

#

Maybe Haiku

umbral wigeon
#

Just use anything you like ig

proven merlin
#

Debian also comes into question

proven merlin
umbral wigeon
#

I like mx linux cus I want performance and stable + old looking desktop, logo looks cool

#

It's based on pain point

glass flower
proven merlin
umbral wigeon
#

Window 10/11 is so bad that my pc just died

proven merlin
#

I unfortunately have to daily Win 10 because of Win95 Development

#

Luckly Win 10 Enterprise IoT exists

umbral wigeon
#

Coding in smasung phone using Acode apline linux is pain lmao

proven merlin
#

Touch kb coding, yikes

#

I have a Nokia Communicator E90 which i use ssh on..

#

Physical keyboard symbian goodness

umbral wigeon
#

Virutal keyboard cover 20% of my screen

proven merlin
#

Only 20%? For me its like 33%.. do you have it set super small?

amber fractal
#

20% seems about right for me

#

It is smaller than stock for sure

proven merlin
#

I couldn't deal with that ngl

umbral wigeon
#

I'm an unpaid homless open source maintainer lmao

#

0$ per month

#

20$ per week from other job

proven merlin
#

Yikes

amber fractal
proven merlin
#

OOF YEA NO

olive sable
proven merlin
umbral wigeon
olive sable
#

what does "being a good boy in your country" entail exactly?

amber fractal
proven merlin
amber fractal
umbral wigeon
umbral wigeon
olive sable
#

oh, so its just a normal job, you said it in a way that made it sound like a government thing

proven merlin
amber fractal
#

Ahh, yeah that is a skill 100%

umbral wigeon
#

A lot of ppl are very kind, you can make money for free if you have connections with ppl on streetsnewliv

amber fractal
#

These days it is second nature though I prefer not to

proven merlin
olive sable
olive sable
#

goodnight konii

sage crag
#

oh no im not sleeping

olive sable
umbral wigeon
#

It's 4 AM for me

proven merlin
#

23:26 for me

#

I have to be up by 4:30 am, so thats fun

olive sable
#

everytime soneone says their time everyone else immediately says their own time too neuroUM

#

herd mentality

sage crag
#

its 55:29 here

proven merlin
#

Swarm for a reason

amber fractal
#

Even smaller now

proven merlin
#

Arrow?

#

Ohh at the bottom

olive sable
#

the enter key?

#

oh

#

what

amber fractal
#

-1st row of keys

olive sable
#

there are arrow keys, jsut didnt see them

proven merlin
#

As for posting kb vs text ratios, i present, 1:3

olive sable
#

on my smasnug, the L/R arrow keys are baked into the spacebar by dragging the spacebar

umbral wigeon
#

How do I sleep, feels high-enegry

amber fractal
#

Gboard moment

proven merlin
olive sable
#

gboard

#

is kinda ugly

proven merlin
#

I don't mind it, wouldn't know how to make it prettier

#

My material you is.. questionable

umbral wigeon
amber fractal
#

I forget how large something close to stock is

opaque sigil
#

another day, another instance of clangd that acts up and uses all system resources Gladge

olive sable
umbral wigeon
#

Let's sleep

#

exit 0

proven merlin
amber fractal
#

That's closer to half evilDentge

olive sable
#

it is pretty much half ye

proven merlin
olive sable
#

hi

amber fractal
#

hi

#

Bye

olive sable
amber fractal
#

Return to sane size for me

olive sable
#

@sage crag how has ableos been going? havent heard of it for ages

umbral wigeon
#

I'm sleepy that my tear dropping

sage crag
umbral wigeon
#

exit 0

proven merlin
opaque sigil
#

john able cancelled neuro7

proven merlin
#

I love it

amber fractal
#

Sam is getting executed neuro7

proven merlin
sage crag
umbral wigeon
#

exit()

olive sable
amber fractal
#

exit(255)

olive sable
#

keep the opensauce money

proven merlin
proven merlin
olive sable
amber fractal
olive sable
sage crag
amber fractal
#

Surely I'll be fine now that I slightly changed the keyboard size

proven merlin
#

You did worse-

#

You moved it down slightly

#

Your entire hand positioning is now off

#

Just barely.

olive sable
#

i still need to finish setting up my new phone. i think its mostly there but you always notice some stuff only after weeks of usage

proven merlin
#

I should backup all my data on my phone and flash graphene os

#

And then not copy any of my old data back-

amber fractal
#

Makes sense to me

proven merlin
#

The current install is very much a "just gotta last until i flash graphene".. for the last 3-4 years...

#

Its running with 3gb free xD

proven merlin
#

I have to at some point really really sort my data..

amber fractal
#

More HDD space than I have

olive sable
#

jsut use my 16tb hdd when the taislcale is up

amber fractal
#

I don't have much to back up ReallyInnocent

proven merlin
#

Or something

amber fractal
proven merlin
#

True, despair works

proven merlin
#

My main laptop has 3TB (1.5Tb formatted)

amber fractal
#

Largest of any system I have is 2TB NVME

proven merlin
#

Then i have like 35 other laptops and desktop with varying disks

#

And uh idk a few servers with 2-16tb each

amber fractal
#

Minamhm of course

proven merlin
#

.. although the 16tb server is running on dead disks

#

Im essentially feeding zfs to the chances

#

Its my apt, steam, pacman, and so on mirror/cache :D

proven merlin
amber fractal
#

I'd have 2, 2, 1.5 then whatever other storages I can find

proven merlin
#

Id like to save all the hw and disks from work that were throwing away but like i cant

#

At some point ill own a 200 disk jbod

#

And ill need a 2000 disk jbod

proven merlin
amber fractal
#

My issue as always, these are all laptops evilDentge

#

Which is not reasonable

proven merlin
#

I just couldn't say no to a 120€ 8tb hdd, and well, the shitton of hardware we are getting at my job that we gotta dispose off

proven merlin
#

The chair is stacking 8 laptop atm...

amber fractal
proven merlin
#

Make a ceph out of all the laptops lol

#

Slowest network raid wr

proven merlin
amber fractal
#

I have no desktop no server easy enub

split steppe
#

brotherrrrrr, that's $1500

proven merlin
#

I essentially have a laptop and desktop for every version of Windows ;-;

proven merlin
split steppe
#

the pro even

proven merlin
#

Probably with the 2tb ssd lol

amber fractal
#

Surely this isn't the drive I'm thinking of

proven merlin
#

But to be fair its an Enterprise one.. so you have one of two chances:

#

Dead on arrival, or dead in 4 weeks.

split steppe
#

lol

#

there is one that costs 10x less thank god

amber fractal
split steppe
#

i almost went into shock when i saw that on my first search

proven merlin
#

You dont wanna know how many hdds we've received that were either DOA or started throwing errors 2 days in..

split steppe
#

still a shit price for 1tb

#

~$140

proven merlin
#

Yeaaaa

#

They were like 40€ a year or two ago

proven merlin
amber fractal
#

Gigabyte AI TOP 100E 1 TB Minamhm

proven merlin
#

So very useful name

amber fractal
#

some people might actually get some use out of it

#

but I wouldn't be paying for that cost

proven merlin
#

Wait thats an actual product line that could make sense?

#

It isn't just marketing?

amber fractal
#

Nope, this boy has a trick

#

it is called "just a bit" of write endurence

#

Endurance: 109500 TBW

proven merlin
#

So.. a decent enterprise ssd, not muuuch more?

amber fractal
#

It's use case is mainly for storing model checkpoints if I had to guess

#

as good luck managing to wear it out in any other usage

#

It has so much write that you could use it as swap without reservation

split steppe
#

if only intel wasn't incompetent we would have optane still

amber fractal
#

I do wish

proven merlin
amber fractal
proven merlin
#

It burns through one within two months essentially

proven merlin
amber fractal
#

Makes sense

proven merlin
#

The Samsung enterprise with power outage protection

#

Or whatever

#

500gb is like 300€ or something

amber fractal
#

Fair cost considering what you get

proven merlin
#

Ehh

#

For a bit of firmware and some capacitors and slightly better emmc chips?

amber fractal
#

Nah for the TBW, if you tried to do consumer which is 1/30th most of the time then there would be a lot more downtime

proven merlin
#

Well sure, the tbw yes, but most of the price comes from the POP when we bought em.. whichs stupid

#

And then we use em as root disk + ZFS SLOG lmao

#

In a mirror ofc.

#

Held down by ducttape and the cooler..

#

22110 nvme in a 2280 port :D

amber fractal
proven merlin
#

Its lucky the cooler was able to get one screw in-

#

The other side i had to disassemble the screw-hold-in-placer

#

To avoid short circuits

#

Well.. what do you wanna do, had to get the mirror working and we only had one 22110 port..

#

Enterprise professional grade IT :)

split steppe
#

better not know how the sausage is made

amber fractal
#

Honestly it just gives me respect for the effort people do to get stuff working

#

the entire internet is filled with botches, it's just a matter of accepting it

proven merlin
#

My workplace pc's ssd is help in place with packing tape because there wasn't a standoff screw to be found.. -1 pcie x1 slot lol

proven merlin
#

I try my very best to offer and implement the best solution.. cuz i don't wanna hate myself for making subpar ones

#

Lol

amber fractal
#

I tend to pick what makes sense at the moment, I'll botch to get something working or I'll spend time to get a solution working

proven merlin
#

Fair, and i mean makes sense

#

Quick and dirty hack, until you can get it fixed propperly

#

Welp.. was a nice chat, enjoyed it- i still don't know what Linux i should try, but oh well. Imma sleep.

stark needle
#

i need compute😭

#

im so compute poor

warped narwhal
#

what do you need compute for?

opaque wharf
#

Hi, I'm compute

stark needle
warped narwhal
#

does it run on cpu? or do you need gpu?

opaque wharf
#

How complex is your robot to the point that it struggles to generate forward kinematic

stark needle
warped narwhal
#

> compute starved
> has 2 3090s

opaque wharf
#

Isaac sim?

stark needle
stark needle
#

i'd have access to 256gb extra vram

warped narwhal
#

why don't you spin up an aws instance for a couple hours for extra compute?

trim valve
#

which bit isn't compatible

stark needle
trim valve
stark needle
#

cant compile unity to arm64 without fuckass license

warped narwhal
#

yikes

#

off all the tools you could've chosen

#

you chose unity?

stark needle
#

i didnt make it myself

minor sail
#

buying a license might be cheaper than buying hw to provide that compute

trim valve
stark needle
#

it's estimating between 14-30 hours till completion

warped narwhal
minor sail
#

oh...

warped narwhal
#

so a "call to ask for a quote" type of price

stark needle
#

basically i generate these chat converstaions

#

with image+depth image -> tool call

#

each trajectory is ~50 turns long

warped narwhal
#

unity for arm has a 30 day trial

#

you could maybe use it just to run this computation and then ditch it afterwards

stark needle
warped narwhal
#

yes

stray dragon
#

can't you just make new accounts to get that 30 day trial over and over

stark needle
#

wtf where

trim valve
#

is this for that vrchat thing i tried to help with ages ago before promptly forgetting

stark needle
#

i just need 1 compile

warped narwhal
stray dragon
#

agh

trim valve
#

😭

warped narwhal
trim valve
#

sorry for disappearing with that

warped narwhal
#

and it has a trial

stark needle
#

according to some papers i need mroe like 100k episodes

#

im prob gonna generate this over a week

trim valve
#

did you end up using that fuckass shader?

stark needle
#

yeah

#

lmfao

trim valve
olive sable
stark needle
#

but yea im just gonna compile the thing and then ditch the subscription lmfao

olive sable
#

shaders?

#

where?

trim valve
#

oh god it was ages ago

#

lemme see if i can find it

olive sable
stark needle
olive sable
stark needle
#

holy shit this is gonna generate so many tokens

trim valve
fast pagoda
stark needle
#

each example is ~16448 tokens

olive sable
#

i was still doing python back then

stark needle
#

i have 328 million tokens to train 1 epoch

#

damn this is gonna take forever

#

1 dgx spark is ~8k tokens/second

#

so in total 16k t/s

rigid snow
#

it believes me but the first thing it does is check if i lied

stark needle
#

wait at 16k t/s it's just 6 hours

split steppe
trim valve
#

neuroBread why must half the label tagging companies either be super expensive or "request a quote" pricing

opaque wharf
opaque sigil
amber fractal
#

Holy benchmark

olive sable
opaque wharf
olive sable
#

ye

opaque wharf
glass flower
#

i mean we do require more complex/ unique benchmarks to actually measure the intelligence of models. every current benchmark that is used is either already benchmaxxed by the models or the tests itself are broken and don't actually work correctly

opaque wharf
opaque wharf
#

We make the LLM useless by benchmaxxing them to holy c enub

kind nimbus
silent cloak
#

LLMs never gonna pass the notepad++ test

sweet pebble
#

how does one remove a node from a binary search tree? 🙏

opaque sigil
#

tree.remove(node)

split steppe
#

you ask it nicely to leave

sweet pebble
silent cloak
#

use an axe

amber fractal
olive sable
#

the tree holds the nodes, when you suply the remove function with the node you want to remove, it removes the node

amber fractal
olive sable
silent cloak
#

have to call the lumberjack function

sweet pebble
opaque wharf
silent cloak
olive sable