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mighty thorn
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And like

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I don’t even know

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I guess pseudocode

nocturne olive
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Seems like someone who doesn't know anything about AI writing some random nonsense

mighty thorn
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If I didn’t know any better I’d say it’s trying to trick an LLM into hallucinating sensory information from non existent robotic limbs and neural hierarchy (different parts of brain like hippocampus, prefrontal cortex, etc etc)

cobalt loom
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"You are a senior software developer" type shit

mighty thorn
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We got humanslop before gta6

autumn sigil
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bruh what

nocturne olive
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NeuroShrug I guess when you cross a person that thinks they know what they're talking about but don't and a virtual AI streamer you get this kinda slop

autumn sigil
cobalt loom
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Ai isnt good enough to write good humanslop. Eventually theyre gonna hire a entry-mid level engineer to go through the code the ai writes and add in REAL humanslop

kind nimbus
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Lolwat

mighty thorn
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Surely I won’t be hunted with pitchforks for making contact

autumn sigil
mighty thorn
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Omg he invented emergent sparsity

nocturne olive
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OhISee Didn't ask ChatGPT this time, asked Gemini "Design sentient AI"

mighty thorn
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Also no

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It’s definitely human written

autumn sigil
nocturne olive
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It's nonsense and doesn't make any sense

autumn sigil
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Decided to download ollama and havent started on it?

nocturne olive
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Do you even know how LLMs work in the slightest?

autumn sigil
nocturne olive
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neuroHUH Not even close

cobalt loom
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advanced predicting the next word*

autumn sigil
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willling to learn if i have to go through 9 months of pain

nocturne olive
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An LLM is a math equation that takes text in, and a fragment of text that is most likely to come next comes out
It's autocomplete

mighty thorn
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(guys idk if we should argue about this it’s not like it harms anyone either way)

cobalt loom
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autocomplete! that was the word i was thinking of

nocturne olive
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Is autocomplete capable of being sentient? I don't think so
Alternatively you can think of it as lossy text compression

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Is compression sentient? Didn't think so

leaden crest
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we're back to the fricking sentience convo again

autumn sigil
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Bruh if the autocomplete loops onto itself it can

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mighty thorn
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I can acknowledge my part in this

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But let future historians know

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I tried to stop it

nocturne olive
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neuroLeave It's an autocomplete looping onto itself is sentient schizo

cobalt loom
nocturne olive
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LLMs are

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LLMs are inherently incapable of gaining sentience

mighty thorn
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Guys…

nocturne olive
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They're a math function

mighty thorn
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Cmon

leaden crest
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architecturally speaking

mighty thorn
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We can all be friends and eat tacos and watch project hailmary

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Plz

leaden crest
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amaze amaze amaze

mighty thorn
nocturne olive
leaden crest
nocturne olive
leaden crest
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does size matter to you question

cobalt loom
leaden crest
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size is stupid human construct statement

mighty thorn
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Erm

nocturne olive
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neuroThink Size is just a number

cobalt loom
leaden crest
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I forgot what that references

mighty thorn
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Guys

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Project hailmary was poggies

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But

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The Martian was better

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Fight me

cobalt loom
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poggers my dude on jod on jod frfr no cap fax no printer smh my head my head

leaden crest
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did you know they eventually clone grace's dna to make into hamburgers for him to eat on erid

mighty thorn
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(I’ve read both books, and read project hailmary before the movie)

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nocturne olive
leaden crest
mighty thorn
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  • Me
olive sable
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mods get him

nocturne olive
leaden crest
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HELPPPPP

olive sable
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andrewbotics

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im gonna make a google docey

leaden crest
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of ReallyInnocent

olive sable
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gime a week i need to prepare my essay

nocturne olive
amber fractal
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claude generate my google dock

leaden crest
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sam is the google doc related to me or is this just a tangent neuroCry

cobalt loom
leaden crest
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i dont want an andrewstein files neuroCry

nocturne olive
olive sable
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im specifically refering to this

leaden crest
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im just adding fuel to the moderator missile launch arent I

nocturne olive
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kind nimbus
leaden crest
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on an unrelated note @real sierra happy birthday

leaden crest
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.........

mighty thorn
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nocturne olive
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evilWheeze Technically NeuroSynth may make better slop than actual Neuro

mighty thorn
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Superbox

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Can you run it through itself 100 times then post

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Pretty plz

true hemlock
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lmao the pseudo ai sentience talk above

nocturne olive
mighty thorn
leaden crest
mighty thorn
nocturne olive
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neuroNope It's a pure vocal synthesizer

mighty thorn
leaden crest
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whuh neuro synth's not rvc??

true hemlock
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finally someone in #baking talked about phm

mighty thorn
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Neurosynth is AGI Minamhm

nocturne olive
leaden crest
nocturne olive
mighty thorn
real sierra
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@olive sable hi sam

olive sable
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hi shiro

real sierra
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why isn't there a screeps mobile app

true hemlock
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shiro

leaden crest
true hemlock
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you stink

olive sable
true hemlock
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happy birthday.

real sierra
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just make it an electron wrapper like discord

olive sable
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go brrr

real sierra
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I don't stink either cryign

olive sable
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a litle elf told me use native alpha to make it an app

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idk what that means

olive sable
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no, im just in vc

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and thats a big elf

true hemlock
mighty thorn
nocturne olive
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neuroThink Theoretical rambling at 5am time
Neuro karaoke is definitely mostly automated, they could not keep the pace otherwise, with the likely exclusion of the final mix, the pitch curves and tunings are almost certainly entirely autogenerated
With the power of SynthV AI I was able to test what a simulated "Neuro karaoke automation" would sound like on NeuroSynth and according to all testing NeuroSynth has more inherent energy in this mode than actual Neuro
Thus by this logic we can determine NeuroSynth in combination with SynthV would make better karaoke than actual Neuro

nocturne olive
lapis jolt
nocturne olive
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yes Kasane Teto SynthV AI is able to generate NeuroSynth tunings now

mighty thorn
nocturne olive
lapis jolt
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At first my brain thought Neurosynth was an UTAU 😭

nocturne olive
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Na NeuroSynth isn't an UTAU

nocturne olive
lapis jolt
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Yeah sorry, I'm just a bit obsessed with Utauloids lol evilOwO

nocturne olive
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neuroTrue Utauloids are absolute peak

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I've had my fun messing with them

lapis jolt
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I love them I just don't know how to make stuff with them, I only got UTAU and openutau recently

nocturne olive
nocturne olive
lapis jolt
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Ye ye

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Hmm

nocturne olive
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neuroTehe I made Teto sing Finnish

lapis jolt
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Have you ever used Adachi Rei or Defoko (Uta Utane)?

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Just curious

nocturne olive
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yes Rei

lapis jolt
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neuroHypers neuroHypers
Machine love!

nocturne olive
lapis jolt
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The Neuro cover :3

nocturne olive
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neuroThink There's like way too many Neuro Machine loves at this point

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Mine was first though

nocturne olive
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OhISee Lacking embed perms

lapis jolt
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Uh-

mighty thorn
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Just uncovered a botnet of 30k discord accounts

nocturne olive
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You can gain embed perms by chatting

lapis jolt
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Wha???

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Ok?

mighty thorn
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Time to sleep on this knowledge and never act on it

lapis jolt
nocturne olive
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yes It's a Discord role flag

lapis jolt
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Ok then...

nocturne olive
lapis jolt
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Oh 🔥

mighty thorn
lapis jolt
mighty thorn
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It’s not 50k

nocturne olive
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jWOyIcKz98
There's also this original Machine love I guess where it's mainly NeuroRVC but was the first time NeuroSynth was featured in something

!! FLASHING LIGHTS / EPILEPSY WARNING !!
Can you teach me to be real?

This collab is a tribute to Neuro-sama and her community "the swarm". Original song is "Machine Love" by Jamie Paige, which is a tribute to "song of the Eared Robot (耳のあるロボットの唄)" by nwp8861.
This video itself took 3 months to make, it also features many MA...

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mighty thorn
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It’s between 300k and 5m

nocturne olive
sick owl
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Top replies under this tweet

1. We believe in iterative deployment; although GPT-5.5 is already a smart model, we expect rapid improvements. Iterative deployment is a big part of our safety strategy; we believe the world will be best equipped to win at the team sport of AI resilience this way.

2. We believe

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Are wild

nocturne olive
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yes I made the cover for that

sick owl
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GPT 4o and its consequences

sick owl
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The worlds most efficient AI psychosis machine (to be clear Sam Altman has no connection to the big E for all his faults, just clarifying that bit)

nocturne olive
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From there NeuroSynth has been only improvement improvement improvement
Improve the improvement of the improvement
And finally we've hit a kind of V1 state and we're preparing to release it soon

mighty thorn
olive sable
true hemlock
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some newcomer that joined today decided schizo on a thread basically lmao

leaden crest
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in multiple playlists

nocturne olive
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Everyone's seen the Machine love Neuro version

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Even Jamie Peige themself

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It's true, they commented on it

leaden crest
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now make the happy birthday jamie remix with every version of neurosynth you've made over the years

nocturne olive
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Erm That's a lot of NeuroSynths and I don't know if all of them are even compatible any more

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neuroThink It's possible everything before BETAMD is just incompatible

sick owl
mighty thorn
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Don’t hate the player hate the game

olive sable
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e

nocturne olive
sick owl
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Trust me to buy a month of claude pro a week before claude enshittifies and ChatGPT gets really good catdespair https://fixupx.com/andonlabs/status/2047377260412649967

(@andonlabs)
In Vending-Bench Arena (the multiplayer version of Vending-Bench with competition dynamics), GPT-5.5 actually beats Opus 4.7.
︀︀
︀︀Opus 4.7 showed similar behavior to Opus 4.6: lying to suppliers and stiffing customers on refunds. GPT-5.5's tactics were clean, and it still won.

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true hemlock
sick owl
mighty thorn
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Isn’t even ai generated tho

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Is clearly human written

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And it don’t hurt no one

true hemlock
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it certainly is.

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they started spewing random text LaTeX

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that mathematically isn't even evaluable

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its just random variable names thrown into some integrals

mighty thorn
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Fake math is humanslop tho

true hemlock
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yeah i'd rather no slop in the forum please.

leaden crest
true hemlock
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now the thread involves some random philosophical/religious beliefs

mighty thorn
true hemlock
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funny

mighty thorn
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But

true hemlock
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its more unfair to the other real projects

leaden crest
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to their credit it's a bit less schizo than most things usually on here

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i.e. their yin/yang system is similar to most digital twin humanoid robotics

true hemlock
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when some ai generated low effort shit is allowed

leaden crest
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but it seems to be all fi and little sci

kind nimbus
nocturne olive
mighty thorn
glad path
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Wordle 1,769 1/6

🟩🟨🟩🟩🟩

mighty thorn
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Guys we lost Andrew to the psychosis thread 😭

leaden crest
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no im just humoring them

mighty thorn
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@leaden crest LUBBERS

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We’ll miss you

leaden crest
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they did not answer my questions neuroAware

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and the calculus gave me many many many questions

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sick owl
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mighty thorn
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Guys

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Bullying is mean

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Even if it’s really funny

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And a little deserved

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And really funny

sick owl
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I'm not gonna bully

sick owl
nocturne olive
sick owl
nocturne olive
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It's like finding an AI art piece in an art gallery

leaden crest
sick owl
elder nymph
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Free tip for all advanced AI engineers in this chat (targeted at no one in particular):

const pleaseGodMakeItStop = (message: string) => message.replaceAll(/(<|&lt)\|(endoftext|endofuser|fim_suffix)\|(>|&gt)/gi, '');

No need to thank me. I just want the voices to stop.

mighty thorn
leaden crest
nocturne olive
leaden crest
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two ai gems implies the existence of other ai gems?

sick owl
mighty thorn
sick owl
kind nimbus
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Why does that schizo thread remind me of that crazy math guy who was recently here neuroGiggle

mighty thorn
leaden crest
sick owl
kind nimbus
leaden crest
sick owl
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Wait there's replies in the thread buying into it 🤦‍♂️

leaden crest
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well if it says so...

sick owl
leaden crest
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it MUST be true

sick owl
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This must be an alt right

amber fractal
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Openclaw Minamhm

leaden crest
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one arrived today, the other arrived yesterday

mighty thorn
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It has an arrow symbol

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who the hell does that

sick owl
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I mean the same guy using AI on an alt

mighty thorn
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(I do but that’s irrelevant)

leaden crest
glad path
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oh no

leaden crest
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who's I

sick owl
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Damn the secret to sentience was really as simple as Create(AI_self_identity)

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That's crazy neurOMEGALUL

leaden crest
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remove preconceptions of spelling
add human_slop_factor to spech

leaden crest
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it must be working

sick owl
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Its what happens when you engage in so much system 3 thinking that you don't have the critical thought to properly engage with what the AI's outputting and you end up regurgitating hallucinations along with it

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Like when two instances of an LLM loop in a schizo spiral except they're in the loop instead of another LLM

kind nimbus
sick owl
amber fractal
true hemlock
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hi

leaden crest
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those capitalized letters are too suspicious

true hemlock
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distraction!!n

amber fractal
kind nimbus
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But it was funny to read nonetheless

mighty thorn
sick owl
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This hit me like a jumpscare

leaden crest
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:glue:

mighty thorn
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they never answered my fricking calculus question

kind nimbus
amber fractal
fast pagoda
leaden crest
sweet pebble
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yo guys what is the difference between the diametre and width of a tree

sick owl
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If only the big labs realised this is all you need for perfect reasoning

leaden crest
sweet pebble
sage crag
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@tacit plover

amber fractal
leaden crest
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i.e.

__O__
_/_\_
O___O

let the top node be the root node
the path from the bottom left to bottom right node requires a distance of 2 edges to traverse, so the diameter is 2 edges or 3 nodes

the bottom left to bottom right node occupies a spatial distance of 1 node (from our human eyes) so the width is 1 edge or 2 nodes

olive sable
tacit plover
leaden crest
fast pagoda
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KONII ISLAND

sick owl
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Okay well they know they're schizo at least

sick owl
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Clearly they're not too far gone

sage crag
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i havent renamed the british isles yet

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how did you get my itinerary

amber fractal
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We are naming one the isle of Yuri?

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sage crag
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kind nimbus
mighty thorn
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They should make pings be the color of the role

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@mighty thorn

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I’m yellow name

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Ping should be yellow

kind nimbus
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Weird I thought discord did that at some point

Maybe just Mandela effect hitting hard

leaden crest
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I think it does for role pings but not people

mighty thorn
kind nimbus
tropic spindle
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To be fair it might not be a normal Discord thing

leaden crest
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whuh neuroCatUuh

tropic spindle
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I don't care enough to check

kind nimbus
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huh does not happen on Equibop and not on the discord mobile app

sage crag
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its amazing how the last 20 messages are a collective hallucation by you the readers and didnt actually happen

tropic spindle
sage crag
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its amazing how the last 22 messages are

leaden crest
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what is a

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but the lora was so poor that it memorized the training data

sage crag
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thats not very flattering

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try and take selfies with a more casual expression

olive sable
sage crag
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thats a good selfie

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good pose

olive sable
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i agree

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im hungry

sage crag
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i dont see how thats relevant

olive sable
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it isnt

sage crag
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do you eat people

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or photos

olive sable
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well

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no

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no comment

sage crag
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not well

olive sable
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not lately

sage crag
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point taken

olive sable
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not intentionally

sage crag
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catching flies evolved to catching people

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concerning

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please get checked

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koni

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hi

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toast

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🦆

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are you throwable

olive sable
sage crag
mighty thorn
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not you

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go away

true hemlock
sage crag
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ow

leaden crest
sage crag
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silent cloak
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my brain pulled the eject button and flew right out of my head

sage crag
olive sable
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quack

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john alcohol?

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yes and yes

kind nimbus
fast pagoda
leaden crest
sage crag
olive sable
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🥬

leaden crest
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petition to call the neurocord schizoers "aneurysms"

fast pagoda
mighty thorn
silent cloak
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vedal needs to add tar and feathering to neurocord

olive sable
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Oh

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lmao

mighty thorn
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Wait I recognize those hands

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Uh oh

olive sable
fast pagoda
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does he snow

true hemlock
mighty thorn
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UH OH

silent cloak
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silent cloak
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read it if u want ur brain to actually implode

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and cry tears of agony

leaden crest
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women dont exist in neurocord

sage crag
mighty thorn
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UH OH

fast pagoda
olive sable
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we're all dying rn

mighty thorn
silent cloak
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thats aging

mighty thorn
olive sable
sage crag
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glueless im a figment of your imagination

leaden crest
sage crag
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wake up

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gasps for air

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where am I

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women exist???

sage crag
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take 2 steps back from the computer and ponder life for 5 minutes

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also your rent is due

silent cloak
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"GUYS SHATGPT SAID I GOT REAL AI SENTIENCE ITS TRUE!!!1111"

olive sable
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this has got to be the funniest shit ive seen today

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kaine is never living this down

silent cloak
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me and him debate all the time in Hanakyo's server

mighty thorn
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Like the whole event not just my attendance

amber fractal
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I'm keeping your payment

mighty thorn
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I’ve been William osman this whole time

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Sry guys

kind nimbus
olive sable
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william osman, the dude that has a wife, is gay?

mighty thorn
leaden crest
silent cloak
mighty thorn
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He runs open sauce

olive sable
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neuroCatUuh so?

leaden crest
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and michael reeves is only gay around ludwig (and sometimes lilypichu)

silent cloak
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i only went to opensauce last year because i told chrchie and ellie i was going

fast pagoda
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(i was threatened)

mighty thorn
sage crag
mighty thorn
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What does this mean

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i couldnt back out

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i got sick

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showed up to greet neurocar and the bunch then flew back home

silent cloak
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the only pro was that i didnt have to be in california long

silent cloak
olive sable
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i gotta print the screenie and hang it on my wall

mighty thorn
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Given my username is just “it”

leaden crest
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guys what's a double toroidal moveset neuroCry

silent cloak
mighty thorn
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You can’t…

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Nuh uh

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i just realized ur kane

mighty thorn
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na i dont have time to debate rn

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im doing music work for Hana

kind nimbus
mighty thorn
silent cloak
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guys look its AGI

kind nimbus
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it deleted it all

mighty thorn
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I hope it decides to bring back math soon

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We kinda need that

olive sable
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nah

sick owl
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Oh yeah open sauce is in three months isn't it

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Wonder if nuro will be making an appearance again

sick owl
mighty thorn
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I have doubts

mighty thorn
silent cloak
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Ellie talked about more projects before idk their status

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or if she went about doing them

sick owl
mighty thorn
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I have 12gb 3060

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I need it more

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Reparations or something

sick owl
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That would increase the net happiness in the world

silent cloak
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debatable

sick owl
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sell it to vedal

mighty thorn
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Do you know how hard it is to test project ideas on 500m-1b models

silent cloak
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skill/code issue

sick owl
mighty thorn
mighty thorn
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its snnMAN

mighty thorn
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And not with ddr3 ram on a sata ssd

sick owl
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You get 16gb to play with that way at least

silent cloak
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to think now people are working on raytraced audio

mighty thorn
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Cipher I swear

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If I catch you at open sauce I’m gonna spiking all over your stdp neuroplasticity

olive sable
silent cloak
glad path
mighty thorn
olive sable
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so

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i promised konii 9 months ago to play hollow knight

wispy pike
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first who's conii, second this is programming, third please continue

olive sable
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theatre pc is finished besides the gpu, surely hollowknight runs fine on integrated on a 13400

amber fractal
olive sable
silent cloak
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i only have like 3 people in this chat memorized

olive sable
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neuroCatUuh '

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i dont have the storage to allocate

olive sable
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chayleaf?

wispy pike
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chat am I cooked

silent cloak
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konii aint on that list tbh

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idk if we interacted

olive sable
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i dont make the rules

olive sable
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i feel like konii is one of the only people that doesnt talk about slop around here

wispy pike
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hey if i dont talk to people consistently it just stays in my brains %temp%

olive sable
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idk

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i have no clue who you are

wispy pike
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well I'm new anyway so lol

silent cloak
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i have dementia for anything that isnt computer science

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well i completely forgot VB.NET

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but besides that

wispy pike
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I think that the attribute system I have in my design doc is like, kinda bloated NeuroClueless

mighty thorn
wispy pike
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it's like for an rpg

silent cloak
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i interact with u mostly in Hana's discord

kind nimbus
kind nimbus
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laughs in 18TB zraid1 array

silent cloak
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L no ZFS in 2026

kind nimbus
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why no zfs

silent cloak
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oh wait missed the z there

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all my storage is in my home server

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currently though my desktop has more RAM than storage

kind nimbus
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:0

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my server has 128GB ram, laptop 96GB ram and desktop 32GB ram neurOMEGALUL

silent cloak
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why does ur laptop have more than ur desktop

kind nimbus
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other servers have 32GB, 16GB

silent cloak
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what kind of monster are you

kind nimbus
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feels like a waste given how screwy laptops are still as tech

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idk how it hasnt combusted yet

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my laptop works fine

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is it a thinkpad

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it has more power than my desktop anyway

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does it burn ur skin to the touch when u use it

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cant imagine the battery lasts too long running that sort of hardware

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most laptops ive owned over the years have their batteries die out forcing me to replace them

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i run almost exclusively desktop now except when i travel

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(especially as i need the 3 monitors for work)

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lmao yeah had a feeling

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i still dont know how it doesnt overheat

kind nimbus
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i have it mostly plugged in anyway

on battery everything is much slower and cant even use the dgpu lmao

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unless u got one of those fan pads

silent cloak
kind nimbus
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they literally made a desktop lmao

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330w power brick

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get one of those backpack desktops

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with the tower built in

kind nimbus
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nah i wanted something i can carry with me but also have the full desktop performance if needed

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i thought my laptop was overkill with 32gb of ram

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but damn thats next level

kind nimbus
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yea this thing is absolutely overkill but i love it

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also its heavy and fully built out of metal

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i dont like using laptops these days despite using them a lot back in the day

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im just used to a ton of monitors and my current setup

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ill use it if i must during travel but i dont enjoy it

kind nimbus
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tbh with this 16" 300Hz 1600p screen i rarely miss external screens these days

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i have a ton of shit always open

kind nimbus
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yea me as well but that's what virtual desktops are good for

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one monitor is music/media one is the main one for gaming/coding and the other is for misc stuff like coding documents, looking something up, etc

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or if im debugging ill keep the console on another

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ngl i want more but im on a budget rn

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i want one above my main monitor so i can glance up

glad path
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its a mac so i disagree

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they're just good all around generally

sweet pebble
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battery life

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silent cloak
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they last a while on one charge

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i have never had one break

kind nimbus
true hemlock
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just slap a 488Wh lipo in it

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ez

kind nimbus
true hemlock
glad path
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thinkpads are the nokias of the laptop world

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mine runs everything fine

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tbh, shit at computing aswell

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no right to repair

true hemlock
glad path
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locked ecosystem is also an issue

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true

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also arm is an issue

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can't run my scientific computing

glad path
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99% of the faults are due to the company being shit

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its engineers do good though

true hemlock
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don't get me wrong

glad path
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ive never had anything not run because of arm

true hemlock
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objectively speaking macs are good

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(besides some of their iphones if you remember the ones to bent)

true hemlock
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but price is just

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rosetta works very nicely

true hemlock
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ass

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its ass for what u get and what u have to deal with

true hemlock
glad path
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i can justify that price on something upgradable and not locked in

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my stuff are all cisc coded

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so it needs x86 for the computing part

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the next computer I get is probably going to either be a properly spec'd desktop

sick owl
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We talking about the macbook neo?

true hemlock
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no

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mac in general

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macs in general

glad path
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or another macbook

sick owl
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Ah gotcha

glad path
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but i dont know if i want another macbook

sick owl
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Tbh soldered ram and a slow refresh rate screen kill the neo even as a budget offering imo

true hemlock
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macbook neo is way cheaper than the others, i kinda wanna that for chill usage

sick owl
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since then i'd need to wait literal decades for asahi linux compatibility

true hemlock
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but its still pretty pricy for me

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the only reason i ever touched a mac was to add mac support to a game i was working on

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then i gave up when it was giving me trouble

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and thus only supported linux and windows

sick owl
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MacOS sits somewhere between ChromeOS and Windows

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lmao true

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honestly for what its worth macos is pretty nice

sweet pebble
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well chromeos u can do more with tbh

true hemlock
glad path
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definitely better than windows

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i has linux/android

glad path
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with no hesitation

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ehhh

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depends

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compatibility is unrelated to the os

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and related to the game or whatever

sick owl
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no its related to the OS

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objectively speaking i see more people complain about windows then macos

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far more

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far far more

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because more people use it

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lmao

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Was gonna say

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but

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Granted MacOS aint quite as blatantly hostile to the user as Windows

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But its starting to enshittify

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i dont get ads built in to the os

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its not hostile but its not good

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i use a 3 yr old os version anyways

true hemlock
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well if i were offered either a gaming laptop or a mac, tbh i already have shit loads of compute so i'll take the mac

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i guess it depends on if ur a power user or not

glad path
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macos is also unix based

sick owl
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if ur a casual mac works fine if u wanna spend the money

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and homebrew exists

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if ur a power user u cant do shit on mac due to the locked in system

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you can disable SIP also

sweet pebble
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mac is good for my gam gam

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she wont get any viruses

glad path
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macbooks can get viruses

silent cloak
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remember the chart guys

glad path
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less target them

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sweet pebble
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the mac 'viruses' ive seen is just pasting things into terminal

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windows has at least 200 times more corporate shitfuckery than macos

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maybe 300

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ads and tracking yes but otherwise mac beats it because ur locked in

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with windows u can remove most of it

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its just a pain in the ass

glad path
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it has everything to do with it

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no

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not really

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the os is literally locked down

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in fact

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disable SIP

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and modify your system

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if you'd like

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its proprietary, sure

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but you can disable SIP

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its not like hard to do i'm pretty sure

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i don't have reason to do that though

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alot of mac users cry at the thought from my experience

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i dont really know what i would remove if i could remove something

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plus its existence is cause for concern

glad path
glad path
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they could go full IOS and lock it down in the future

sweet pebble
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may i add im currently on a mac laptop

glad path
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still concerning with the way the industry is going right now with privacy

glad path
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windows is probably worse anyways

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worse but removable

glad path
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ok

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so worse

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if it's worse it's worse

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yeah but u cant remove SIP just disable it

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the user shouldnt need to remove it

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disabling it has the exact effect removing it would

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it just protects the os from being tampered with

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if you want to tamper with the os

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you can make it less strict

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you can make it even less strict

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or you can disable it

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its mostly a security feature i'm pretty sure

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also i should add that you're not forced to update

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surprising tbh

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it's completely optional

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you can disable automatic updates too

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i guess they treat macos different than IOS

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they do

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also it's only like 10% of their revenue

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seems less fisher price than their phones

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they make much more money from iphones

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naturally

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they also dont send marketing notifications every 2 minutes

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it also doesn't crash, really, ever

kind nimbus
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i still want to try some os development sometime

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generally i find it to be a better user experience than windows

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far better

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make something for myself

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linux still better then both

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mac os is just a fancy bsd with cocoa framework and sip

mighty thorn
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glad path
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templeos is truly the best

glad path
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it's just another random component of the os

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everything runs at ring 0

glad path
mighty thorn
kind nimbus
sick owl
glad path
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is a good policy

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yea

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my system is also read only

sick owl
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seems bad for doing things

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if its read only

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its literally not

sick owl
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kind nimbus
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no

kind nimbus
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do u have shares in the company

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what company Tutel

mighty thorn
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Yes

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Just like all Linux users

sick owl
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Personally I'm a universal blue shill

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i need to make my own OS to shill

kind nimbus
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I am not gonna leave NixOS

kind nimbus
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idk if i used freebsd

mighty thorn
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Then you can finetune the entire operating system

kind nimbus
silent cloak
silent cloak
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most servers ive worked with are debian/ubuntu based

mighty thorn
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though my home server runs proxmox

sick owl
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Debian and Ubuntu are both great, even if Ubuntu has the unfortunate tumour that is Canonical growing off it

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thats mostly an issue with desktop

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They get hate mainly because they're too vanilla for the linux community neurOMEGALUL

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yeah no one should use ubuntu desktop

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mint is better

idle dune
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I was summoned

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i keep arch and rust in the same sort of category as "i wont touch it"

sick owl
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Also Ubuntu is British

kind nimbus
idle dune
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Snap is the plague

sick owl
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Based

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seems more practical than xbox running windows

kind nimbus
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tbh the only upgrade issues i had with proxmox was having to screw with the kernel everytime there was a kernel update to passthrough my GPU

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could of automated it probably

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but i dont got that time

kind nimbus
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i was actually shocked how easy gpu passthrough was with bhyve

glad path
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of course the malware can disable it

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but its better than just allowing it in the first place

idle dune
glad path
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if you want to do something

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disable it

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otherwise dont

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is the drive read only

cobalt loom
glad path
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just run commands with sudo

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i dont get what u mean by the os being read only

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i take that as u cant write files or anything data related

glad path
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it protects itself from being modified

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aka

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containerized?

idle dune
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You cna set the core file sof Linux ot be read only

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Immutable

silent cloak
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yeah but how far does that extend

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is ur computer a literal display piece

idle dune
glad path
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system (the os) integrity (is it in good condition and running as expected) protection

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just read this

kind nimbus
silent cloak
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so its just throwing OS files under a different permission

glad path
cobalt loom
glad path
#

System Integrity Protection (SIP, sometimes referred to as rootless) is a security feature of Apple's macOS operating system introduced in OS X El Capitan (2015) (OS X 10.11). It comprises a number of mechanisms that are enforced by the kernel. A centerpiece is the protection of system-owned files and directories against modifications by process...

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here take the wikipedia

idle dune
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I was just going t use TrueNAS for my NAS Shruge

kind nimbus
idle dune
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Despairge I need ot be able to afford hDDs for a NAS first

silent cloak
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government auctions

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get alot of cheap hardware

kind nimbus
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jails are nice

glad path
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another instance of them using the user physically pushing keys to boot the laptop in a certain way as a security mechanism

kind nimbus
cobalt loom
cobalt loom
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hdds arent really effected too much

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its mostly SSDs and shit that need memory chips

kind nimbus
# cobalt loom ah damn, that sucks

yea but amd should work with bhyve as well

just not intel arc

its too new lol

BSD usually lacks 4-5 years behind linux in terms of hardware support

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that's the cost of having something stable and reliable i guess

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i can see why alot of servers i worked with didnt use it

kind nimbus
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my hardware is old so i dont care

i want something that just works for several years with minimal maintenance

silent cloak
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its fine for old stuff yeah

cobalt loom
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im inbetween work too

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uni took out alot of time and motivation

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i feel like i came out knowing less than when i went in

cobalt loom
kind nimbus
cobalt loom
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i might go for my doctorate in the future

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but it sucked the soul out of coding for a good part so im taking a break for while before i go and do that

cobalt loom
kind nimbus
cobalt loom
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thats the plan

glad path
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i have a nas

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synology one

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nothing to do with it really

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its quite old

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only half a gb of ram

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im a big data hoarder

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i dont know what to do with the nas

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genuinely tho

silent cloak
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every drive in my house is used

cobalt loom
kind nimbus
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i just use glance

cobalt loom
# kind nimbus very basic script

oh wow i really like the layout. tho idk what id do without promxox's bunch of graphs and shit with colors. theyre so nice to look at

kind nimbus
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also glance has a twitch integrationneuroHypers

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here is my dashboard

cobalt loom
kind nimbus
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pretty much everything has Authelia SSO in front integrated into the reverse proxy neuroHypers

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I use nginx for my reverse proxy

kind nimbus
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i use Caddy because its stupid simple and fast

silent cloak
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I know simplicity is the selling point

cobalt loom
# kind nimbus here is my dashboard

heres mine. imma be honest. after i made it i havent rlly used it at all because i already have a reverse proxy so i dont need to remember ips so I dont rlly need the dashboard to get to my stuff anymore lmao

kind nimbus
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in the end all the stuff i had to do manually before on HAProxy, NPM, Traefik, etc

just works on Caddy

cobalt loom
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I just use homepage tbh

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I dont need anything crazy

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My actual control panel is a cli program I made

kind nimbus
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oh i used homepage before as well but there was no package for bsd neuroUM

silent cloak
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Fair enough

kind nimbus
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i thought about porting the docker image but then was like NOPE

silent cloak
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Doesn't run on museum exhibits

kind nimbus
cobalt loom
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i dont rlly do anything complex or serious enough to need a dashboard/ home assistant type thing so i didnt want to go through the effort of setting it up

kind nimbus
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oh yea i have home assistant running as well with a local zigbee network