programming

[fast pagoda]

i feel the screepsing in the air

[proven merlin]

Although i was asking for how to avoid it lmao

[amber fractal]

You don't

[leaden crest]

heh I’ll never avoid it

better feeling than coffee alcohol and drugs combned

[fast pagoda]

movie lol

[leaden crest]

not that I know what any of those feel like

[leaden crest]

amaze amaze amaze

[proven merlin]

My weak meatbag needs it though.. itll only get 1:30h today..

[real sierra]

its gonna take so long to get to RCL3

[olive sable]

jesse Shiro
we need to cook screeps

[real sierra]

Sam

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/screeps-henroikol-gif-7156526079677914975

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

did you know my tile only has one exit?

[olive sable]

[proven merlin]

Oo i watched that with my gf, beautiful movie, but got us teary, so... Also bad movie lol

[real sierra]

did you know it's to my south?

[olive sable]

no

oh

fuck

[real sierra]

[leaden crest]

why

[olive sable]

shiro is gonna invade me

[fast pagoda]

[real sierra]

you're lucky because i think where i left off, my code doesn't properly execute attack orders

[leaden crest]

the birthday gambit

[real sierra]

it does the scouting and target selection but not the uh

execution bit

[olive sable]

please dont invade

[real sierra]

some issues with the platoon navigation

[leaden crest]

shiro.execute(sam)

[real sierra]

dw thats a few RCL down the line anyway

[proven merlin]

All bark no bite type of code

[olive sable]

i forgot how to build

oh

i figured out how to build

[proven merlin]

And they say humor couldnt be generated

[real sierra]

doExpansion: cache.wrap(function() {
        const roomCount = Object.values(Game.rooms).length;
        return Object.values(Game.rooms).filter((room) => room.controller.my).length < Game.gcl.level &&
            Memory.stats.energyPerTick * 10000 + Memory.stats.energyStored > roomCount * 200000;
    }),

this seems to be my expansion condition

[proven merlin]

Funniest thing ive seen all day

[leaden crest]

mustve been jynxzi or smth

[real sierra]

so i guess if i have the capacity to claim more rooms and uhhhh

my average room energy is in a decent spot

or uhh projected to be in a good spot in 10000 ticks?

[olive sable]

doesnt the game have a way to not attack your own faction or something?

[real sierra]

no you code that yourself

[proven merlin]

I now have found a reason Not to get the game.. Javascript

[real sierra]

ppl usually do it with public segments

or something

[olive sable]

would you please code that

[real sierra]

no

[olive sable]

[leaden crest]

dayum

[real sierra]

its ok i dont think the attacking code works

besides we're a long way away from that

[amber fractal]

WASM

[real sierra]

the novice area lasts a month and a half

[olive sable]

i was wondering why my screeps werent doing shit, i have a syntax error

[leaden crest]

whats that

[real sierra]

so if it takes that long then ill have more neighbours

[real sierra]

spawn zone that you can't enter or leave for a limited time

[proven merlin]

I have not seen wasm syntax. If its like normal asm syntax, hell yea

[real sierra]

keeps you from getting rolled by huge players

[amber fractal]

Compile to web assembly

[leaden crest]

oh wow imagine that how rude of them

[proven merlin]

Yes but like what does it look like if you code in wasm

[amber fractal]

Most people either just write C++ or crab and compile down

[leaden crest]

I swear we’ve had this convo before

idk

[real sierra]

gonna go out on a limb and say wasm probably looks like what you might expect an assembly language to look like

[proven merlin]

Ew.. WAT looks ugly

[proven merlin]

Ig.. seems silly

[tender river]

it uses a lispy syntax

[proven merlin]

It does not

Absolutely does not

I am deeply disgusted

Well, that does it

[proven merlin]

I do not want to deal with tech anymore for today

[tender river]

this is equivalent btw

[proven merlin]

Unless... I go implement true webassembly from scratch- nooo

[tender river]

it supports both lisp-like and forth-like syntax

[proven merlin]

Nah seems fine.. my stubbornness to not accept anything beyond html3.2 and basic css and no scripts kinda save me

[real sierra]

omg

chale eef

[proven merlin]

I might be distracted to sleep thanks to the uglyness of wasm.. well, gn yall

If im back here in 10 minutes, it wasn't enough lol

[real sierra]

@olive sable have you relearned how your code works

[olive sable]

yes

mostly

[real sierra]

lucky

mine is largely a mystery to me

in part because i forgot javascript again

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

i can recall what things are meant to do by the function names usually

but the contents are a mystery

[olive sable]

already edited half opf the main script, this code is pretty ass but its fine

my builder code is kinda fucked up

[real sierra]

could be worse

[olive sable]

idk how it got that bad in my builder

[real sierra]

compare

[olive sable]

nah

what the fuck

you got some stuff to detect a newgame

mine is basic

ill choose to ignore whatver you're doing for my own sanity

what

huh

my gatherers have had a "WORK" this whoel time

[real sierra]

i would kinda hope they do

not gathering much without that

[olive sable]

why?

they just need to pickup from the miners

[real sierra]

oh

your gatherers do something different than i thought they did

carry on

my whole colony is in poverty while we build roads

not enough energy to go around

[fast pagoda]

fkk i am busy trying to qualify as critical infrastructure in the state of colorado

[olive sable]

my gatherers have this:

had to add spaces to make it 2000 characters and change into a .txt, ignore the horizontal scroll

[real sierra]

yeah interesting

they're similar to my logistics class

[olive sable]

holy

ye im not even gonna try to comprehend that

[leaden crest]

what the freak

[real sierra]

its not so bad

first it checks if any creeps have requested transport and if so, self-assigns the task and drags them to the destination

if there is no transport job, it checks all storages and tries to find one storage to transfer to and one storage to transfer from

if there is both a transfer source, transfer destination and empty inventory space, the creep will withdraw from the source

otherwise, if there is a transfer destination and we have some energy, the creep will deposit

otherwise the creep will idle

[mighty thorn]

No I won’t

[real sierra]

[olive sable]

oh

hmm

my gatherers are still allowed to harvest

what the fuck

[mighty thorn]

Just realized I have no clue what you guys are talking about

So

[nocturne olive]

What's going on here?

[olive sable]

screeps

[mighty thorn]

neurosynth

[nocturne olive]

[real sierra]

im screepsing

[nocturne olive]

NeuroSynth mentioned

[nocturne olive]

[mighty thorn]

NeuroSynth mentioned

[minor crag]

I HAVE GPU ACCELERATED GIBBERISH!!!

It is still broken but now it uses vulkan

[real sierra]

ok bed time

@olive sable i confirmed the attacking feature is disabled rn

prob because it's broken

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

so you need not worry about being mauled

they'll just do their own thing on my plot

[olive sable]

goodnight shiro

[real sierra]

probably build some walls at RCL3

gn

[olive sable]

im gonna clean up my code before changing anything

i have 20 bugs

mostly cuz i coded this on my phone while i was in montenegro

[amber fractal]

I did offer the steamlink, didn't work tho

[olive sable]

ye

[mighty thorn]

Biologists be like

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

prob a good idea

I'm not cleaning up mine

idk wtf the inputs are or what the functions do

just going to let them do their thing

I can't work on the part I need to work on for another couple days anyway

[olive sable]

cleaned up my gatherer

[blissful geyser]

Fun Fact: Backspace removes Letters to the left of the cursor.
while the Delete button removes letters to the right of the cursor.

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

Very useful when my backspace key breaks

[leaden crest]

oh if your backspace key breaks hehehe use \b

only works in strings though

[amber fractal]

What about the enter key breaking

[leaden crest]

\n?

[amber fractal]

Because that is also breaking

[leaden crest]

buy a new keyboard

[amber fractal]

At least it is framework laptop

But AAAAAAAA

[leaden crest]

a key is broken too I see

[amber fractal]

Nah on mobile

All of my failures is no input

The actual broken letter key is d

So many broken keys

[minor crag]

Turns out to make it less insane I just have to add an [INST] tag to the start and [/INST] to the end since my crappy runtime doesn't add those

Sadly it is using my igpu for some reason (probably just fedora atomic being fedora atomic) and i cant load my actual 14B model so llama 2 7B it shall be for now

[dire trout]

how hard is C again

[minor crag]

Yes

[dire trout]

shit

[olive sable]

pretty hard

[minor crag]

I'm rewriting this api in rust so I dong have to use CPP ever again

[dire trout]

maybe it was for the best that the module was cut from 90 to 60 hours

[olive sable]

[glad path]

what is so bad about c++

[minor crag]

Uhhh I don't know how to use it

It has taken me 2 days to get anything to work

[glad path]

skill issue smh

[minor crag]

Well CPP is hard :(

I like rust

[dire trout]

if C++ is hard how is C

[minor crag]

I think C is just CPP but with less features

[dire trout]

cooked

[opaque sigil]

c as a self-contained language is quite simple for better or worse

there are countless quirks to get used to when actually using it though

[olive sable]

id say its simple but hard

mainly due to memory management

[opaque sigil]

when in doubt throw an arena at it

[dire trout]

wtf does this mean

[glad path]

idk

looks suspicious

[olive sable]

im no expert on c, but i dont think thats how a for loop is supposed to work

oh its just a delay

i see

so it puts pin 7 to high until it counts to 500 000

i guess its just a blinking led code or something

[flint dome]

raw arduino code im guessing

something for atmega

prob 328p (uno)?

[flint dome]

no its setting all 8 pins on port d as high on atmega328p

same microcontroller as in the uno

[olive sable]

[flint dome]

this is probably bare metal arduino code

[olive sable]

is it not a bitmask?

[dire trout]

ok wait I should say what I understand here
yes obviously this is a blinking led light thing

wtf do lines 17 and 19 do
wtf does the ddrd and the portd vars do
and it's blinking every second, why is the measurement of time 500k

[flint dome]

this use case is not a bitmask

[dire trout]

no

[flint dome]

however 0xff can be used as a bitmask

[olive sable]

[flint dome]

what microcontroller then

[dire trout]

it's not arduino

[flint dome]

line 17 to 19 however are a bitmask

now that i look properly

[dire trout]

it's a ATMEGA168PB with an additional board installed

[olive sable]

thats what made me think it activated only pin 7

[dire trout]

honestly this is all new to me idk what half of these things are lol

the lesson notes say nothing

[flint dome]

no it lights up all pins from 0 to 7

[dire trout]

it only activates pin 7

[flint dome]

i may be stupid then

[dire trout]

or I fucked something up somehow

[flint dome]

no i could be stupid too

[olive sable]

im pretty sur eit should onl ybe pin 7

[dire trout]

wtf is a bitmask

[olive sable]

but idk

[flint dome]

i forget shit very often

[leaden crest]

arduino hat?

[dire trout]

you can tell I know nothing

[olive sable]

imagine you have 8 pins on your arduino thingy.
you can note down if they are powered or not via a 8 digit binary notation, like this 01001001

[leaden crest]

im not kidding it’s called a hat if the lower board is the arduino proper

[dire trout]

yes

now that you say it

it's literally a hat

oh I get what you mean now but yeah it looks like a literal hat

funny

[leaden crest]

focus on him not me 👆

[flint dome]

counts to 500k to waste time, as its processor runs at megahertz, and otherwise without it would blink very fast at millions of times per second, which would just look like a constant on to you at that frequency

ddrd is an internal register that defines the direction of data flow on pin 0 to 7 or port d, in this case out

as 0xff basically means 1 here for set all 8 pins to 1

[dire trout]

ok I kinda get it

[leaden crest]

speaking of which does delay() not exist here

[dire trout]

oh ++ means add 1

[flint dome]

PORTD |= (1 << 7); in this the cpu is told to take the number 1 in 8 bit integer format and shift 7 time to the right thus making it 10000000 in binary 8 bit (for the 1<<7 part

the |= compares port d with this shifted number, and the numbers that are 1 have their respective pin set as 1 as well, in this case the 8th number or msb, which means pin 7 will be high, as we count from 0 to 7

[olive sable]

my internet keeps going out

[dire trout]

I don't have a reliable notes source I'm trying to understand it sidhwjhd

[flint dome]

for the other one PORTD &= ~(1<<7)
we essentially do the same shift operation once again, but notice the tilde. that means a negation, and if you remember your boolean logic, that means a 0 is turned into a 1 and 1 into 0. so now our 10000000 turn into 01111111

now it runs an and logical compare against this number and our ports. in our case, in port d, 7th pin is 1, and 8th bit is 0. if you remember 1&0, this gives us a result of 0. the rest of the pins were low before as well, so their comparisions will look something like 0&1, which gives us a 0. This will also now set these outputs to the pins as well, setting the 7th pin to low

clarification on the last one: the '|' in c is used for logical 'or' operations, and '&' is used for logical 'and' operations

[leaden crest]

personally I would just use
PORTD = 0b11111111
and
PORTD = 0b01111111
functionally the same without the boolean algebra prereq

maybe it’s poor coding practices for your course idk but it’ll get you through the night

[flint dome]

i'll send some revision notes as well as some other stuff for this as well, share me the syllabus in dm so that i can drop you relevant notes

[flint dome]

very much actually genuinely confusing stuff for a newcomer frankly, dogshit teaching materials

[leaden crest]

are you saying me or the course oofio’s taking

[dire trout]

I'm ngl my head kinda ow

[flint dome]

not you schewpid why would i say that to you now

im saying about his course

[leaden crest]

sorry just wanted to confirm

[flint dome]

ofcourse poor guy would be confused with this stuff man

[dire trout]

it's not that I don't understand I just kinda didn't practice boolean during the holidays for like 2 months

[flint dome]

didja not do you prerequisites

[dire trout]

I did I'm saying it's been a while

[flint dome]

you should do them again i suppose

ughhhhhhhhhhhh why do i have a digital design test today

[dire trout]

I'll go through it as it goes ig

[flint dome]

now i have to cram all of this in an hour

why i gotta bother with remembering this shit anyways

ill remember it eventually with enough verilog practice anyways

wait wtf is this shit about function with mux

great now i cant even cheat on the test

this is suboptimal

llms are too stupid to solve this stuff

[serene thorn]

https://youtu.be/aIxdEEWGjdQ

[true hemlock]

oh shit its the oofio guy

[dire trout]

huh?

[olive sable]

football?

so

does football count as technical talk?

[true hemlock]

[stark needle]

good everyone

[olive sable]

hello

[stark needle]

Hru

[olive sable]

wrrrr

welp, i redid all the screeps code i had

i fixed like 40 bugs

that code was ass

ill still refactor some of my current code just to make it more readable, but later

[opaque wharf]

After a long ride on my motorcycle, I can finally rest

[rigid snow]

screeps

[vague sonnet]

(he hit a roadsign)

[amber fractal]

It was shibo

[stark needle]

Chat i might have gotten the most insane phone plan through my employer

All europe + north america + japan unlimited 5g high speed data and phone calls

For 11$

[opaque wharf]

Food

[tight tinsel]

learning Python in school instead of online and I have never heard the term cast before

[opaque wharf]

Cast in python?

Casting is just the term used to convert one type to another regardless of language

[safe path]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/vercel-confirms-breach-as-hackers-claim-to-be-selling-stolen-data/

any vercel users

[opaque wharf]

Luckily nope

I hate them and their unnecessarily expensive service

[hoary lion]

huh

the occasional members are quite more occasional than I have thought

[amber fractal]

Another Vercel L

[amber fractal]

Yeah it happens

[hoary lion]

i haven't been in this channel for around six months

but dayum

[amber fractal]

No comment

[fast pagoda]

I never understood why use

[vague sonnet]

python types are fake no? so it shoooouldn't be a thing?

[rough bloom]

[rough bloom]

Hyperblaze (low cortisol edition)

[fast pagoda]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-fsr-5-scarlet-cortex/

[hoary lion]

the illusion of python having stronger type system per each version

[vague sonnet]

idk I don't use python, too much of a hater

lack of strong types is criminal 100%

[jagged turtle]

lol

[jagged turtle]

what do you mean by "strong types"

[stark needle]

Ok chat this job might be goated

I'm considered basically the de facto ML god

My boss keeps sending me shit and I'm the one who can architect the entire cloud

[jagged turtle]

what

what do you mean ML god

[stark needle]

I'm the most competent one in machine learning by a mile at basically the entire company

[jagged turtle]

employee lock-in time

[warped narwhal]

This is good until you have two network cards and suddenly your scripts don't work because the kernel names switched places this boot

[rough bloom]

new interface names are good

numbering by initialization order sucks

[vague sonnet]

enforcing a variable to be of specific type
in python you can have an int that becomes a string that becomes a tuple

[warped narwhal]

The format is device type, connection type, slot number function number iirc

So my 10gbe is enp42s0f1 because it is an ethernet en through PCIe p with a pci node 42, slot 0 because this is not an expander, and function 0 because there are two NICs

[jagged turtle]

enforcement happens pre-compile time, take that what you will

given also that there are libraries like pydantic which basically add runtime type validation to variables and whatnot I doubt it'll be done any time soon

[vague sonnet]

my solution for that is not using python

I hate everything about it

from environment to syntax

[jagged turtle]

fair, sometimes I hate python as well

[true hemlock]

why isn't 10GbE a standard yet for all mobo

all it needed

is a single PCIe 4.0 lane

[rough bloom]

kinda expensive and nobody needs it

[trim valve]

10GbE on copper twisted pair is annoying and short range, they'd have a bunch of people complaining it doesn't work

[true hemlock]

fair

[trim valve]

oh wait 10gbit twisted pair goes further than I thought

[true hemlock]

it does

like im pretty sure 60 meters still work

don't think its expensive though

[rough bloom]

more expensive than 2.5Gb

[true hemlock]

we sorta also just need a standardized asic for that

idk why we haven't been there yet

[rough bloom]

I really think the issue is more lack of demand than anything else

99% of people are just gonna use it to access the internet

and barely anyone is gonna have an internet connection faster than 1 Gb/s, let alone 2.5 Gb/s

[true hemlock]

fair

[trim valve]

hell I'm still struggling to find anything that does 2.5gbit from a reputable brand that isn't a full fledged enterprise switch

[true hemlock]

though i still think it sorta don't make sense to not include it in most mid range boards already

the asic shouldn't be too expensive under bulk order

and all it needs is a single pcie 4.0 lane

which in most mid range boards are literally unused or not exposed

[umbral wigeon]

I code in google drive

https://tenor.com/view/pengu-pudgy-penguin-pudgypenguins-google-gif-8249422198546071041

[vague sonnet]

weird IDE choice

[rare bridge]

@real sierra screeps gang

my current code is ass

[sage crag]

[glass jetty]

i just keep making my preprocessor for rust

and i made error in cpp code

[fast pagoda]

the ai top gigabyte boards have dual 10Gbe just to be connected together for training

"""""""""

[glass jetty]

that would not happen in rust

[rare bridge]

oh everyone here is toast

fair enough

[sage crag]

why arent you

[rough bloom]

Toastburst

[sage crag]

[glass jetty]

i forgot to write *output_size = 0, to override whatever user input

[fast pagoda]

BurstToast

[true hemlock]

toast yourself now

[rare bridge]

BurntToast

[fast pagoda]

like burnttoast but

burst

yea

[sage crag]

afonion

[true hemlock]

and banana

banana toast

[fast pagoda]

konion

[sage crag]

[fast pagoda]

[sage crag]

[true hemlock]

koni

konio

konoy

[fast pagoda]

nee hoy minoy

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-gif-14864617

[sage crag]

quck

[sage crag]

quuck

[fast pagoda]

quck'd

[sage crag]

quuk

[fast pagoda]

quick

[sage crag]

🦆

[vague sonnet]

the code would be wrong and you wouldn't even get an error, miserable

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-funny-memes-funny-jokes-spongebob-spongebob-meme-gif-4395022609439478640

[glass jetty]

apparently sig 11 still happens

how to properly log from c(c++) function called from rust code with c call convention from lsp that called from nvim client

i guess will try just cerr now

[olive sable]

[glass jetty]

ah im fucking idiot

guys

i did fix by output_size = 0

for fuic ptr

i literally forgot to * ptr

[vague sonnet]

I think you should skip all steps involving rust and stick to C

[glass jetty]

wdym?

[vague sonnet]

yeah

[glass jetty]

apparently something works differently, and rust's lsp still read original file

seems like there other entry point somewhere
just search for std::fs::read wasnt right approach
i gonna ask on rust server again idk
i will not give up at this point

btw rust-analyzer so slow compare to clangd

for one file project it takes like >1s to load

seems like i have to keep nvim window open, if i not want to wait several seconds to get lsp support

with clangd i can just reopen and it instantly catch up from .cache

idk, where else it can load original file, idk...

[jagged turtle]

???

oh wait I forgot to change name colour

[rough bloom]

Banana

[jagged turtle]

yeah

the banana toast campaign finally got me

[vague sonnet]

W

[stark needle]

[mighty thorn]

Biology memes

[sage crag]

why 10 mug

[real sierra]

it's time

but I haven't gotten an email yet which means I'm not at RCL3 yet

RCL3 is where most of the big functionality of my code starts up

because before then the necessary buildings are locked I think

[rare bridge]

i'm prob gonna figure out at least basic creep assignment before i deploy it to the world

[amber fractal]

Can't screeps
Already started something else that needs my time

Unfortunately for everyone it still isn't NN

[opaque wharf]

Last time you have anything to do with screeps, shiro stopped playing before the server is ready

[opaque sigil]

surely this time it'll be different

[jagged turtle]

why are you disgusing yourself

[amber fractal]

I'm not disguising myself any more than the 10 users named Toast

[jagged turtle]

strength (and confusion) in numbers

[amber fractal]

Plus Finti is actually just a different part of my name

[sage crag]

[amber fractal]

Not IRL ovbs

[sage crag]

hi toast

[rigid snow]

3d name

[amber fractal]

[rigid snow]

good choice

[mighty thorn]

Igglyfinti

[amber fractal]

[rough bloom]

very good choice

[jagged turtle]

github likes to weirdly size itself huh

[tight tinsel]

my boss forgor to pay me for march

and never noticed it for a week since i never buy things

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

screeps calls your name

[amber fractal]

Don't know where the Toast that wanted to hear my review is. But now is about time to do a review on the FUTO keyboard.
The keyboard isn't the best autocorrect experience, mostly more for just typing out faster sometimes. However with things like NNv5 I have seen that appear in the recommendations in situations where NNv5 is nowhere near mentioned, so it has some soft learning capabilities. But it can also proudly not correct typos.
Pasting without enabling clipboard history is objectively balls, only because I literally just realized that it isn't one of the hot action bottons by default and didn't notice the settings for it.

[opaque sigil]

[amber fractal]

I have been running arrow keys on the bottom, and that I do not recommend on anyone

Holy mistype

So many times

I do not speak on the voice feature because I am not a voice typer

And finally

Scratch that

No more dedicated emoji key on space

Again completely blindsided by the existence of the menu

Hold space for keyboard swap is always appreciated

Because the setting to change keyboard is so damn hard to find

My short term review is mixed but clearly still need some time to poke around

[opaque sigil]

i think one of the biggest things it struggled with last time i tried was switching the autocorrect language based on what i type

[amber fractal]

Sidenote I picked yellow, why

[opaque sigil]

gboard is really nice for this, i can type a single german word and it'll instantly know

that's... certainly a theme choice

[amber fractal]

Can't really help you there, don't know any other languages to test that behaviour on

[olive sable]

i added cod eto make my miners have more than 1 work

im so goated at screeps

[amber fractal]

cod teto

[opaque sigil]

cod, eto... bleh

[olive sable]

cod eto

[vague sonnet]

cod 🐟

coder is short for cod eater

[olive sable]

[vague sonnet]

[olive sable]

i now have a miner wih 2 wok instead of 1

[warped narwhal]

Is it making ramen?

[olive sable]

😭 imm noot used to typing on my laptop

the keyboard is ass

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/pingu-noot-noot-penguin-head-bang-gif-17021033

[kind nimbus]

Well yeah there should be a thing like uuids for network Interfaces similar to what we have for disks / partitions

[sick owl]

Gonna give Qwen 3.6 a fair shake today, no use being suspicious of it playing the benchmark game without actually testing it for myself ↓

[rough bloom]

the systemd predictable naming scheme is as close as you're gonna get to that I think

also do you actually want a network interface named 067c13a2-2e17-483d-95bc-9d2cb77d8a85

because to me that seems worse than the current situation

[amber fractal]

I do recall the UUID existing yeah, I've not seen anyone use them tho

They say to use it because devices are brought online by boot order

[rough bloom]

where

UUIDs are not a thing for network interfaces AFAIK

[opaque sigil]

they max out at 15 characters

[amber fractal]

The exact source is lost to time, there is some systemd exact interface thing. Don't recall what it uses, might be MAC address or completely off base

[opaque sigil]

windows uses GUIDs though i guess

twas probably the mac address if anything

[rough bloom]

the systemd network interface thing is the predictable naming

unless I am somehow very blind there is no database for an association of UUIDs to NICs, and no way to generally persist that in some device EEPROM or something
-# not even to mention virtual interfaces

NetworkManager gives the interfaces UUIDs apparently

[amber fractal]

Memory is hasy at best on the matter

NM generates it's own per connection tho

[rough bloom]

probably was just MAC address or something then

[amber fractal]

Safe to assume so

Which looping back to deterministic interfaces is ugly as all hell to use as a network device name but if it works it works

[opaque wharf]

CUID2

Not as long as UUID but serves its purpose well

Or nanoid

[amber fractal]

Only reason I have any knowledge is thunderbolt networking. Which all of the connections are virtal and I wanted to actually apply routing logic to it

[rough bloom]

did you succeed

[amber fractal]

Somehow both staticed the IP and did some traffic forwarding

[rough bloom]

[amber fractal]

Well the static is the easy part

[rough bloom]

I mean you don't really need more for a small network

[amber fractal]

Just both halves need to negotiate in the correct range instead of 169.X?.X.X

Wrong range

[rough bloom]

they shouldn't have to, if it's a link between two routers it can have whatever IPs you want

if one of them is a host then

yeah

[opaque wharf]

Is fixing the mac address and assigning ip still the best method to prevent unknown devices in the network?

[rough bloom]

not really but also kinda yes

the best way is dot1x

but that's complicated and not reasonable to enforce everywhere

so static MAC address it is

[amber fractal]

Thunderbolt will autoassign in the link local IP range randomly. If you want to have a static IP you have to take further measures

[rough bloom]

yeah, and if it's two routers a link-local IP is fine

[amber fractal]

Like changes per connection random

So part of what I had to do is constantly fetch what the IP was for this boot

So I can ssh

[rough bloom]

even a random IP is technically fine, you don't strictly have to know it to forward traffic
but it's inconvenient

[amber fractal]

You say that but both are random both sides, so no static DNS or even target to grab network traffic from

That is why I had to do that in the first place

Is easier than managing whatever it is doing

[opaque wharf]

Welp, reading dot1x and already noped out

[amber fractal]

Plus moving to the 10.X.X.X range

I can't beat the driver, but I can have something static alongside it

Oh yeah virtual interfaces

Have fun figuring out what tb1 and tb2 are, those are by order of cable insertion/negition order and not actually bound to a particular port

[rough bloom]

it should still be fine
you just define the interface as the next hop for your routes instead of an IP address

[opaque wharf]

/dev/serial/by-port

[rough bloom]

ye, complicated

[amber fractal]

Makes sense but at that point I decided to just not

[rough bloom]

better to just assign proper IPs, easier

[amber fractal]

Static is nice if I want to actually use the connections in scripts or even access the machines

[rough bloom]

you can still do that too even if the thunderbolt interfaces have random IPs

[amber fractal]

However SystemD does have issues with doing logic on thunderbolt interfaces

[opaque sigil]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-7.1-New-NTFS-Driver

[rough bloom]

simply define loopback interface with the IP you want
then tell everything to route traffic for that IP there

[amber fractal]

The service completely hangs no matter what I try. So I usually get the first boot but then any rebuild I have to wait for the service to fail to rebuild

This is for yoinking tb 1-4 defining an interface so that I can use as an actual router

It just doesn't like it

Wonder why

Almost as if the systemd network was designed to fail if devices aren't present

Surely the thunderbolt virtual network interfaces are always present

[kind nimbus]

No i just want eth0, eth1, wlan0, wlan1

[sage crag]

internet too complicated

[amber fractal]

Rebuild the internet time

[sage crag]

from now one every device gets a unique 32 bit integer when it's made and if we run out if numbers then too bad

[amber fractal]

Gotta make sure to avoid subnets because that's too complicated

[kind nimbus]

nixos-rebuild switch --flake .#internet

[amber fractal]

Just hold a table of hops for each and every device

If it doesn't reach too bad

[sage crag]

every device will be connected via radio, if a connection is local its because youre in a lead room

[vague sonnet]

man invented serial numbers

[sage crag]

this has the bonus of broadcasting your packets to alpha centauri with a 5 year ping

[rough bloom]

just set up whatever name you want with systemd .link files then

[sage crag]

again to be clear if you dont want your web traffic being broadcasted to alpha centauri then use a vpn (lead shielding)

[vague sonnet]

have you reached the sponsorship quota yet?

[sage crag]

alternatively set up your system so that the radio waves are bounced off the atmosphere and cant leave

[sage crag]

no

[vague sonnet]

rip

[sage crag]

alternatively alternatively live underground with the lizard people

id like to see your radio waves go through 100km of rock

[vague sonnet]

so you're saying if I google "naked turtle (without shell)" it will come back in 5 years to haunt me?

[amber fractal]

Are we allowed to make wired radio or nah

[sage crag]

only if there is something 2.5 lightyears away that can gib you with a gamma ray burst

[kind nimbus]

Also an option i guess

[sage crag]

air is wire

[amber fractal]

Surely it is within the span of not my problem

[sage crag]

air is wire

[amber fractal]

[sage crag]

just use lazers and mirrors

[vague sonnet]

optic fiber

[sage crag]

dont use fibre optics though

ye

cheating

[amber fractal]

No fiber

Must be raw lazer

[rough bloom]

https://giphy.com/gifs/interesting-electricity-Gty2oDYQ1fih2

[vague sonnet]

wired connection is a thing too already

[amber fractal]

Not allowed, too complex for konii brain

[vague sonnet]

just a matter of connecting it directly instead of using an ISP

[sage crag]

if lazer changes direction more than once within a period of 20cm the lazer wire is considered illegal and will put you in jail

[tender river]

mac address 2

[sage crag]

no no

[tender river]

konii address

[sage crag]

mac address too complicated

has letters and colon

my brilliant idea is

the first device is 1

and the second device is 2

and

when you run out of 32 bit numbers, stop making devices

[tender river]

no

hydraulic press

[vague sonnet]

this whole conv is just reinventing basic tech and purposefully making it bad 😔

[sage crag]

alternatively 5 light years away but they have a teleporter

[amber fractal]

It is clearly an innovative idea

[sage crag]

you dare besmirch my high minded intellectualism

do you know who i am

[vague sonnet]

a Toast

[sage crag]

i will tear you to pieces

[vague sonnet]

nu uh

you have no chance if you can't even match my crunch

[tender river]

[mighty thorn]

@olive sable be like (cause triangle)

[kind nimbus]

Why is everyone Toast

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067638175478071307/1338967835501924431/neurowashingmachine.gif

[sage crag]

why are you magicbytes

[kind nimbus]

Because that's my hacker tag lol

[tender river]

why are you not yelow

[sage crag]

[opaque wharf]

https://reticulum.network/

[kind nimbus]

To match my profile picture colors

[tender river]

i think

yelow would match much better

[rough bloom]

make profile picture yelow too

[tender river]

banana campaign 2026

[rough bloom]

[opaque wharf]

Oh my god, you can' just ask people why are they toast

[tender river]

ask people why they are toast

or

ask toast why they are toast

or

[vague sonnet]

[amber fractal]

ask non toast why not toast

[kind nimbus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1362492821067530492/1485728720294776992/bdc7a44100631d1e.gif

https://tenor.com/view/love-the-way-you-lie-meme-burnt-toast-love-the-way-you-lie-toast-eminem-gif-125812852990581549

[real sierra]

things are coming along in screeps

it seems like the road network is nearly complete

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1327142377139343430/1486773213190029444/doc_2026-03-25_19-13-27.gif

[real sierra]

after which upgrade progress should accelerate a lot

[sage crag]

fumoquest version of screeps

when

[real sierra]

hiiii bwaani

[real sierra]

never probably

[sage crag]

fumoquest rewrite the world project cancelled

[trim valve]

I think I have some weird quirk with my nix rpi

[real sierra]

its good to be back

[trim valve]

the ethernet blinks both lights

[sage crag]

my rpi lights dont turn on

except when they turn on all at once

[sage crag]

its communicating

say hi

i speak ethernet

[trim valve]

[tender river]

do you have an led

[sage crag]

i have eyes

[tender river]

or a full on port

o

[robust wind]

happily chattering away

[tender river]

can eyes speak

[sage crag]

each eye has two states

on and off

[tender river]

language requiress

advanced control of

eye

[sage crag]

ye

[tender river]

impressive

[sage crag]

can also use those finger led things

but

cheap

[tender river]

eye more expensive

that is

true

[sage crag]

ye

[obsidian mantle]

eye

[sage crag]

eye

[opaque wharf]

They are having seizure

[real sierra]

koniiiiiiiii

what the hblang

[trim valve]

how long until complete screeps takeover

[tender river]

simd soon

i think

[real sierra]

[real sierra]

its coming

[tender river]

actually

already

simd already

ye

[real sierra]

still no screeps hblang

sad

[trim valve]

I wonder how terrible running a small image classifier as a wasm userscript would be

*that scans all loading images, and hides anything with certain classifications

[real sierra]

probably not that bad

[warped narwhal]

Why not just use networkd link files

Predictable and custom

[trim valve]

I think my main challenge is getting the model to run on wasm

also, beeg model

[opaque wharf]

You would be surprised at how performant edge inference has been

[kind nimbus]

Also an option but right now I'm happy with the default behavior of the initialization order since my laptop only has one Ethernet and one wifi interface

[sage crag]

erm ackshually

hblang supports wasm now

[real sierra]

so if someone makes bindings for the screeps api

[sage crag]

yes

its possible

[real sierra]

does hblang look efficient in wasm

or

[sage crag]

hm

https://git.ablecorp.eu/mlokis/hblang/src/branch/main/tests/wasm-freestanding/directives 22 (@simd).txt
https://git.ablecorp.eu/mlokis/hblang/src/branch/main/tests/x86_64-linux/directives 22 (@simd).txt
simd comparison in x86 and wasm

to be honest uh

probably not super super amazing

[real sierra]

[nocturne olive]

It's not that different from the size of NeuroSynth's raw weights

[real sierra]

its ok i believe

[sage crag]

wrrr

i will reprise it maybe

[real sierra]

cant be worse than js

[sage crag]

does screeps have its own allocation api and stuff

[rare bridge]

[sage crag]

im not familiar with the api

wrr

[sick owl]

Okay, be real with me chat

Would I be a karen for complaining to my ISP that I'm "only" getting these speeds on my 900mbps package

[warped narwhal]

Is this over WiFi or ethernet

And are there any other devices using bandwidth at the same time?

[real sierra]

screeps memory is interesting

uhhhh

https://docs.screeps.com/global-objects.html#Memory-object

more info in API reference

[mighty thorn]

What are the Germans up to

[sage crag]

if i made a set of hblang bindings would anyone use them

[sick owl]

WiFi tbf

[sage crag]

since like

hblang doesnt have much of a standard library

[sick owl]

But I was getting those 900mbps speeds over WiFi for months last year

[opaque wharf]

Isn't that your responsibility?

[sage crag]

yes but

i forgotted

[opaque wharf]

[olive sable]

Why do i have 13 pings

[sage crag]

not me

dont ask

[olive sable]

Wtf is happening?

[olive sable]

🔺

[opaque wharf]

@olive sable

[olive sable]

Also, hi konii

And hi other toasts

[mighty thorn]

I hate people

[sage crag]

@tender river screeps hblang

possibl maybe

does @import work on wasm

[stray dragon]

that's evil

[tender river]

i can make bindings

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1327142377139343430/1486773213190029444/doc_2026-03-25_19-13-27.gif

[tender river]

but to be honest i only have like 40% interest in the game itself

[sage crag]

no need to make bindings

if make bindings

me make them

[olive sable]

Im being catfished in dms by someone under the impression im a girl

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/fubuki-confused-hololive-gif-18015941

[mighty thorn]

No

Ur the catfish, you just don’t know it

[olive sable]

[mighty thorn]

He thinks ur a girl but ur a guy

Without context, you are the catfish here

[opaque wharf]

Freshly opened blanket from the laundry my beloved

[olive sable]

Im accidentaly catfishing

[mighty thorn]

It’s a pivotal event in every man’s life

[olive sable]

Well, they seem to already be banned from neurocord

[amber fractal]

:classic:

[real sierra]

[real sierra]

oh that's good

[mighty thorn]

Holy Jesus moly

[olive sable]

Time to block i guess

[kind nimbus]

[real sierra]

sam

did you place your walls on your own

[opaque wharf]

You can always do a funny and send manly voice. Even if its from the internet

[olive sable]

Ye

[real sierra]

ahh ok

I was gonna ask what your algo was

[olive sable]

Nah im not comfortabel doing that

[fast pagoda]

least broad claude research is he eeven triyn

[fickle rain]

https://tenor.com/view/blub-blub-blub-meow-cat-fish-gif-10131274653267510240

[olive sable]

Anyways i have to cycle home now

Bye

[real sierra]

baibai

[fast pagoda]

bro stopped on the side of the road like cdawg on a cyclathon

[olive sable]

Nah im still at school

Funny intermission

[fast pagoda]

yeah im on a funny sleep intermission

[amber fractal]

Block shiro in

[olive sable]

But this must be insufferable for actual woman, like holy fuck who starts a convo by asking if i have an account on nsfw websites???

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-pointing-gif-14917655

ui spposed to slep

[real sierra]

he already did

he chose the only sector I have an exit to

[amber fractal]

[fast pagoda]

shiro you told him where ur exit was

[fickle rain]

Create a new OF account, put some AI profile picture, make sub starting from 1000€?

[fast pagoda]

god if i had less moral

[amber fractal]

Why just the pfp

[fickle rain]

Tru

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

@real sierra

hi

@real sierra

[fast pagoda]

hi toast

[sage crag]

hi

[mighty thorn]

Yeah a truly fair society would harass men just as much

[real sierra]

this is maybe getting a bit adult

[real sierra]

hiiii

[amber fractal]

And this is where this ends

[real sierra]

hiii hii

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126496895246807123/1488042236993339483/6D972AD6C73A5B53D7A000B454B9E52A.gif

happy normal day

[fast pagoda]

koni

[opaque wharf]

Man, evil so cute

[real sierra]

hello hello hi hello

[fast pagoda]

koni

[mighty thorn]

Wait what were we talking about

Where am I

[sage crag]

hi hello hi hello

[mighty thorn]

What did you do to me

[fast pagoda]

hi

[sage crag]

onion

[mighty thorn]

Help

[opaque wharf]

Make enub rotate how?

[real sierra]

omg

uncomputable fn

hello

[sage crag]

enubsp

[opaque wharf]

Shiroo

[mighty thorn]

I have an idea

[real sierra]

screeps is back

[mighty thorn]

What if

Vedal just

[real sierra]

will you join the screepsening

[fast pagoda]

revert to osu only no model

[sage crag]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HFuCQfEW4AA32Nq.webp

[mighty thorn]

For a stream

[fast pagoda]

ant eatr strream

[opaque wharf]

Sadly I am too busy this week

[mighty thorn]

Just reverts everything to mid v1 versions

[amber fractal]

Premtive no

[sage crag]

https://ordr.issou.best/watch/SkNKNS

[mighty thorn]

And does not acknowledge it in any way

[real sierra]

[mighty thorn]

Mfs after I eat my water with the shell still on

[sage crag]

shiro made in china name

bai

Bai~

[tender river]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-evil-neuro-embed-failure-gif-15456327638408323033

[real sierra]

speen

[sage crag]

embed disabled on purpos

[opaque wharf]

Doing my taxes and running a business so maybe start next week

[sage crag]

porpoise

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

bai_nya

[real sierra]

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059569601144442911/1387116465613705266/1LEAFUSERMEOW.gif

[real sierra]

I'm so screeps

[sage crag]

me NOT new OR leaf

[real sierra]

I need to fix the attack function so I can explode sam

[mighty thorn]

Secret 3rd rule: konii

[sage crag]

[opaque wharf]

Tosto

Vs 1000°C knife

[amber fractal]

o7 triangle

[opaque wharf]

Where?

[fast pagoda]

konii is an scp

[amber fractal]

[opaque sigil]

https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.6

[real sierra]

the screeptory must grow

and my only expansion direction for the next 40 days is Sam's sector

it is what it is

[fast pagoda]

i hereby curse you to responding only through responses generated locally by this model forever more

[mighty thorn]

Aka curse of silence

[fast pagoda]

he might get a "a" out

on occasion

[mighty thorn]

Not sure most even have the disk space for it

[warped narwhal]

Would I even be able to run this with 64gb of system ram?

[mighty thorn]

Idk what average storage is nowadays

[mighty thorn]

Try 1,280gb

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

Shiro dont kill me

[mighty thorn]

Maybe 768gb if lobotomized enough

[warped narwhal]

I have 10tb in HDDs that I'll use as swap, good enough

[fast pagoda]

scale tailing will activate the most goblinmode inference cluster ever seen by mankind to run it

[opaque sigil]

the model is 595GB apparently huh

[mighty thorn]

1 token per 10 minutes

[real sierra]

speechless

[fast pagoda]

he's on to you

[amber fractal]

[real sierra]

[amber fractal]

We love discord CSS edits

[sage crag]

css edits? i made this in pixlr

[fast pagoda]

illegal

[real sierra]

you will be an excellent test scenario

[fast pagoda]

i love pixlr lmao based pixlr slopper

[real sierra]

I love pixlr

literally use it for all my photo editing needs

[fast pagoda]

i dont use it on windows due to pdn being there

[real sierra]

"3 daily downloads only!" me with snipping tool:

[fast pagoda]

but on linux im launching pixlr 101/10 times before i touch gimp's shitty ass

[mighty thorn]

Pulmonary Disease Nullification

[fickle rain]

Erm

[real sierra]

I've been giggling at "pixlr slopper" since you said it, I can't even drink my coffee

[fast pagoda]

people bought this in 2021

[real sierra]

I don't know what it is it's so funny

[fast pagoda]

ooh im pixlnl

[sage crag]

shiro when will you break through foundation establishment and form your golden core

[opaque wharf]

Oh noo