programming

[olive sable]

first see where the collision boxes are, then make sure we use the most central location outside of collision

also need to make sure it doesnt telleport between frames

[vague sonnet]

this one's fair yeah

ik/fk isn't real anyway, just fully simulate all the phsyics fr fr

[olive sable]

the cpu usage one is a minor issue since its barely noticable if only one character has it, but if you have 100 npc in the scene it could become an issue

[vague sonnet]

you can disable extra stuff for immobile or far awar npcs

[olive sable]

true

[vague sonnet]

like in let's say cities most npcs will just stand/walk on flat surfaces

so ik is not needed at all

at some distance you can turn it off completely too

[olive sable]

i feel like basic IK can be accelerated on gpu, so should be fine

since the matrix transforms need to go into vram anyways, there are only benefits from calcualting on gpu

thats for the specific usecase of cities where there are hundreds of IK that need to happen

[vague sonnet]

I kinda want to write a game engine that uses only gpu
and cpu just to set it up and pass things like inputs

[olive sable]

that does exist in some capacity already iirc, but i dont think it was very practical

[vague sonnet]

gpu instructions are more limited
and you have to deal with all the parallel computing bs

it's nice for some heavier simulations tho

like my idea was a fully simulated micro-voxel engine

[olive sable]

iirc you're forced to have multiple instances of the engine running at the same time due to how SMs work

[vague sonnet]

what was SM again

[olive sable]

streaming multiplexer

[gentle haven]

Why are there two toast

[olive sable]

autocorrect

streaming multiprocessor

basically, all the cores in a SM follow the same code

[autumn ore]

My status changes to the lyrics I’m listening to

[olive sable]

basically, a SM uses SIMT

but each core can have an individual ID to index a vector at a different location, so it calculates the same code but with different data

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

something something warps

i dont remember how warps are different from SM

is warp the actual task?

[vague sonnet]

well yeah, that's how gpu parallelism works

[silent cloak]

Im gonna make ur l1 cache miss

[opaque sigil]

warps are the scheduler unit

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

warps run in SIMT, different warps can be in different places

[olive sable]

thats why i said im pretty sure you're forced to have multiple instances of the engine running

[vague sonnet]

and I don't see why

[olive sable]

cuz of how streaming multiprocessors work

[vague sonnet]

I can call different instructions on different groups to do different things

[olive sable]

you can only give a SM the same code

[vague sonnet]

and why wouldn't I be able to use multiple SMs?

[opaque sigil]

you can pin specific SMs but iirc there is no way of saying "run this code in SM x"

[vague sonnet]

I don't need a specific one

[opaque sigil]

actually

you can partition them now so i lied

[olive sable]

you can use mutltiple SMs, but that doesnt change the fact that your "game engine on GPU" will be always be using a full SM

[silent cloak]

Found out L4 caches existed on some chips a long time ago

[vague sonnet]

it wouldn't be 100% on gpu
I would just limit the cpu to deploy gpu instructions where the actual logic would happen

while most engines are cpu-based with mainly just rendering and shaders handled by the gpu

[olive sable]

ok

so

is your main gameloop going to be on gpu?

[vague sonnet]

the gameloop would be the world simulation
so yes

the point of that engine would be to take a different approach from usual scripted games

[olive sable]

a single SM on a recent gpu has 128 cuda cores

all those 128 cuda cores will be doing the same exact gameloop

[vague sonnet]

nvidia is not cooking, bad hardware design

gn chat

[olive sable]

"bad hardware design" 😭

[opaque sigil]

you can have persistent threads and delegate one SM or so to run the logic

whether you want to is another story

[opaque sigil]

also this is wrong, only 32 since a single SM can run multiple independent blocks in parallel which in turn contain independent warps

[amber fractal]

Mhm it is a good method for what it is, it just isn't the same as CPU

[olive sable]

oh ye

they have 4 blocks

of 32 each

[amber fractal]

Least obvious AVX enjoyer

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

you would probably end up with a nice speedup by doing everything on the gpu tbh

given how you have to run the same code every iteration anyway

throw a cuda graph at it and call it a day

[amber fractal]

Yep

[olive sable]

it would probably make some stuff faster

depending on how you do it

just not very practical

[opaque sigil]

if it's faster it's practical

the only thing that matters

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

If it is slower it is a meme

[opaque sigil]

exactly

[olive sable]

i saw that konii made the triangle code a lot more barebones, but i couldnt be bothered to at the time

and i do have a lot of work rn

but maybe in the future

more than 126K fps

[opaque sigil]

didn't she turn it into a 5 line program or something

[olive sable]

it hink it was like 60 lines or something

[amber fractal]

It was a bit more than 5 yeah

[opaque sigil]

close enough

same thing

[amber fractal]

I recall beta testing it

[olive sable]

i made the triangle code by jsut removing functions we didnt need for a single triangle

but i didnt restructure anything

it would prob get a lot smaller if i did

[amber fractal]

My contribution is jank

[olive sable]

honestly i had no clue what iggly was trying to do with their triangle code

besides jsut more fps

[amber fractal]

I noticed there was the ability to batch send frame requests

So that is what it was doing

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

mfw can't apply to apple because they refuse to let me verify my phone number to create an account

guess it wasn't meant to be

[amber fractal]

No iPhone

[amber fractal]

There was also the removal of normalization to avoid calculating the normalization

[olive sable]

i should really revisit that sometime

but

college

[opaque sigil]

overrated

just do it all in the last week

(would not recommend)

[olive sable]

thats this week

[opaque sigil]

oh

[amber fractal]

Deadge

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

the new semester here started this week

[olive sable]

i have work from before vacation

need to make UI

[amber fractal]

Apple UI clone the 4th

[olive sable]

no

game

[amber fractal]

One of these days I should try using CSS and do the apple UI style

Liquid moment

So much blur

I think I'd do decent at it

[olive sable]

game ui is a lot more fun

cuz it has character

a lot of new ui is bland

[amber fractal]

Agreed

I'd just be implmenting the apple UI to learn its tricks

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

The glass effect is useful regardless

Decent hack to avoid a lot more expense

I already like my glows

So the next logical step is to add some transparency to let it live

[olive sable]

revelation

7900xtx

makes the screen not blink for 5 seconds when turnign a monitor off

so

i like

[mighty thorn]

Bruh

Opus 4.7 cannot be that expensive to run

The limits with the $20 plan are literally less than the limits of using Gemini 3 Pro on the free tier

[fast pagoda]

amazing what separating from jensen does

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

i actually noticed that myself literally today, the memory of how full screen shit and monitors being powered on or off would explode things for a moment

and was like huh they must've fixed it

nope entirely different driver dummy

[olive sable]

anyways

i bought a case for the theatree pc

all thats left is getting the mobo fromt he post, and buying a gpu

but

the case i bought came with fans

and they're all molex 🥀

[true hemlock]

molex is good tho

[mighty thorn]

This guy would rather do anything than save spending money for the 7000 mile trip in 3 months 😭

[olive sable]

molex means they're all running at 100% the whole time

[olive sable]

this was cheap

[true hemlock]

they don't have their controller?

[olive sable]

cuz i havent bought the gpu yet

[olive sable]

nope

litteraly

molex connector

and thats it

[true hemlock]

to dc

dc brushes motor?

[olive sable]

idk

[true hemlock]

[olive sable]

molex

fan

[true hemlock]

if its dc brushes motor then its 100% ass

[olive sable]

it doesnt have a part id or anythin

[true hemlock]

if its brushless that means it at least has a controller inside

eh honestly you should be able to like

voltage gate the molex

to technically "control" the fans

slap in some buck

[olive sable]

the case and fans, from the same brand, are compeltely nameless

the logo is a V in a hexagon

"vibox" according to google lens

[fast pagoda]

that's a pc maker i dunno if they just make cases

like a builder

[olive sable]

"VIBOX VI-3" seems to be the one

stock fans from that case

[fast pagoda]

ryzen 3200g pog

[fast pagoda]

[olive sable]

or "Vibox VTX-3" ?

they name these so badly

[fast pagoda]

huh

it's like

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vibox-Gaming-Infinity-Tempered-Compatible-Black/dp/B0F19G4Y9H it was sold in places as a case i guess

looks like a corsair 4000d but i dont think it is

[olive sable]

its not

cuz i have it

[fast pagoda]

cuz i have a 4000d and it's off from it

yeah lol

and it's not the rs update or anything

3500?

[queen ginkgo]

man, I just realized that next time I build a PC it'll be the end of an era for me
first time ever I won't need an optical drive for it

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/plankton-spongebob-dontlettheflamedieout-flame-gif-19163324

[olive sable]

apparently, one of my fans has a small 2pin connector

and that connects to a button ont he case

and thats what im supposed to use to change rgb modes

and the fans will run at 100% due to molex

[queen ginkgo]

End of an era.. my first PC that I got when 6 had an optical drive, and every PC i've had since had one, but for the first time ever, I can genuinely say I don't remember the last time I've needed to use it.

[fast pagoda]

i have a portable blue ray unit

i use it to rip miku concert blu rays

[olive sable]

i kinda want to get better fans, but for now these are not bad enough, they're bad to the point its funny

[fast pagoda]

the last case i had that i put a drive in was my cm 690 II

for my 4770k build i used a nzxt h440 which was 8 3.5in hdd slots instead so that was rip optical drive

[queen ginkgo]

my current pc is a r7 2700x build with an optical drive

[fast pagoda]

and then now they dont even give you the hdd cages unless you are careful

[olive sable]

i feel bad shaming older cpus

but the 2700x feels ancient to me

2018, so 8 years ago

oh

[fast pagoda]

you werent even born yet

[olive sable]

quite litteraly 8 years ago on the dot

april 19th

[fast pagoda]

[olive sable]

i was lol

[fast pagoda]

[fast pagoda]

im not susge of the humble ryzen 2000 series

Where utility

[true hemlock]

(i got this for literally free)

[olive sable]

ai generated thermal paste?

[true hemlock]

i think so

[fast pagoda]

Has it been rigorously tested for high thermal conductivity

[true hemlock]

uh

its decent

[fast pagoda]

they didnt have that kind on the shelf when i looked:/

[olive sable]

i thought my psu came with a molex to 4pin fan adapter thingy. but apprently this adapts molex to floppy disk

[fast pagoda]

the fans dont have daisy chain connectors?

[olive sable]

they do

but i would like PWM

my PSU has more than enough molex to not even need to daisychain them btw

i got like 8 possible molex connections

[true hemlock]

i preferred the thermal paste that are more liquid ish

[fast pagoda]

I used all mine

[true hemlock]

easier to flatten out too

i have the 13.3W/MK one

[fast pagoda]

I've not actually tried this mx-7 but I'm about to

Mx-4 was always eazy to spread tho

[olive sable]

what the fuck is that?

[fast pagoda]

Hard driv

[olive sable]

hard driv dont use molex tho

they use the other thingy

[true hemlock]

any thermal paste that you could easily make a liquid blob of are usually high quality.

[fast pagoda]

This backplane takes molex power for some reason

[fast pagoda]

Mx7 is supposed to not spread

Apparently

[true hemlock]

bruh

[fast pagoda]

Well, it spreads with downward pressure as you put the cooler on

I've noticed Arctic no longer list the measured thermal conductivity

Think it was always kinda meh as an indication

Though

[true hemlock]

would be fucking ass thickness though

point is that you wanna it to be as thin as possible

[fast pagoda]

Yea look at the 3rd dot on the list

[true hemlock]

its why i preferred the ones that are more liquid issh

[fast pagoda]

Apparently that's their hope and dream lol

I hate that you can't really see how it spreads easily though with out taking the cooler off

[true hemlock]

i think thermal grizzly makes way begger paste

but eh

i prefer the one im using often

[fast pagoda]

I don't think it's much better than any other tbh

Probably 10degree delta between non conductive greasy boys like these

Then liquid metal and shit some more lowering

[true hemlock]

this one's pretty liquid ish

spreads really nicely both with pressure and manual

and is what i used for some somewhat-XOC

handles -50C at lowest though

[faint sandal]

https://fxtwitter.com/promptprincess/status/2045573232544096505

♡emily♡ (@promptprincess)

@Emizione @e0syn fr

**💬 1 ❤️ 3 👁️ 211 **

FxTwitter · Apr 18, 2026, 6:40 PM

[fast pagoda]

Kek

[fast pagoda]

Apparently it's le good, glad my strategy of "I'm just gonna pick the highest number Arctic paste I see in 30 seconds" paid off

Can't wait to apply it badly and have it perform worse than gorilla glue

[mighty thorn]

Chicken sandwich

[olive sable]

apparently

my PSU

the cpu cable can split in 2

[faint sandal]

can I use it as a peanut butter substitute

[olive sable]

and then i do have a 4pin cable.
so i can actually give more juice to my 5950x

[mighty thorn]

A foundation model consisting of two symmetric context blocks enclosing a non-circular, anisotropic central sequence. Prior to deployment, the sequence undergoes a stateful transformation pipeline: an untrained initialization is passed through a series of gradient updates that progressively reduce reconstruction error, converging on a stable, lower-entropy representation.
The intermediate feature space between the context blocks is characteristically sparse. It contains one thin, high-surface-area manifold with irregular edge activations, a single dense compliant layer with high conductance, and a small set of low-rank circular projections distributed near the perimeter of the representation.
The central sequence itself is not radially symmetric. Its decision boundary is non-convex, its surface exhibits high local curvature, and its internal structure is better characterized by a directional fiber decomposition than by an isotropic density assumption, indicating strong inductive biases along the principal axes.
Each context block applies layer normalization to its interior surface prior to the final forward pass. The full assembly is held in a stable configuration by a learned compression function that maps the high-dimensional intermediate representation into a lower-dimensional latent embedding. Optional scaling factors and regularization terms can be tuned post-hoc to improve convergence and strengthen the terminal reward signal.
This architecture achieves competitive benchmark performance relative to parameter-matched alternatives while maintaining a significantly reduced computational graph, enabling high-throughput serving and substantially lower per-inference resource consumption. The mechanisms underlying cross-domain generalization remain an active area of inquiry.

[olive sable]

so how does this relate to ckicken sandwich?

[mighty thorn]

Send it to ai with “What is this talking about” lmao

I’ve been typing that for like 30 minutes and giggling the entire time

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/kawaii-lindo-school-hearts-laughs-gif-16204351

kaine pov

[mighty thorn]

Chicken sandwich

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

that's nutella and not a valid peanut butter sub

[mighty thorn]

@fast pagoda thoughts?

[fast pagoda]

i didnt realize it wasnt entirely a sandwhich meem

[olive sable]

Printer still broken

[mighty thorn]

*chicken sandwich meme

[fast pagoda]

oh right i was going to read that after i said it and then i forgor in the 3 seconds it tookl

[mighty thorn]

5 likes and ill make a real model fitting this description

[olive sable]

what you wrote reads liek a description for a car exhaust

"high-surface-area manifold with irregular edge"

[mighty thorn]

Nope

Chicken sandwich

[mighty thorn]

Cause folds and stuff and the inside is all weird unlike beef which is basically the same across each cut of meat

[haughty basin]

I love ADHD + LLMs 😤

Auth bit is me btw

[summer swallow]

coding at 7am with no sleep goes hard

yall should try it

[jagged turtle]

I spent so much time trying to get decorators working in neuropilot and then it turned out I forgot to adjust the build step as well

[void estuary]

I love the whole spectrum and Python

[opaque wharf]

The pipeline of programmers to farmer is real

[trim valve]

goddamit I forgot to bring a hdmi cable so setting up this pi has gone from incredibly easy to incredibly hard

wait does the pi give a serial interface over usb

[opaque wharf]

Nope

[trim valve]

ig ill look at gpio

[opaque wharf]

Even the gpio will not give terminal by default IIRC

You have to configure it first to use uart as actual terminal

[trim valve]

apparently you can configure that by editing the sd card though

[opaque wharf]

Well, yeah

But if you're on windows, good luck mounting and editing ext4

[trim valve]

bootfs is fat32

[void estuary]

you're fat32

[stark needle]

[jagged turtle]

[warped narwhal]

no I'm fat12

[real sierra]

what is that poll

reminds me of my bio

[jagged turtle]

new bio to celebrate your birthday?

[glass jetty]

btw
qmutex not work properly at intel arch for given cpu we had
it somehow take enormous time to perform just lock/unlock ops
i have no idea why
on amd it work normally
if make mutex using ptr it work normally, using std mutex and no any issue
first time i encountered weird behavior like this
and since then, like almost 2 years now, nothing as weird as that

[vague sonnet]

what's avx

[faint sandal]

3000W ST-Pro Auto StepUp & StepMeow Voltage Transformer Converter, Heavy-Duty AC110/220V Converter with US Standard, Universal, Schuko AC Outlets & DC5VUSB Port by Goldsource[3-YearWarranty]

[sage crag]

60 very long lines

properly formatted probably closer to 150-200 since its like 90% struct initialisation

thanks vk

[maiden geyser]

advanced vector extensions

[haughty lodge]

Something I’ve wanted to do since BOOM premiered but haven’t got around to is putting this...

on this

and printing a case for it that looks like the TV in the MV
I still haven't chosen a microcontroller yet but hope to get around to it, eventually, hopefully Soon™

[trim valve]

oh getting this rpi to work was a lot easier than expected

now I have a working pi running on an ssd

now surely the nix install attempt will work

it didn't work

why am i not suprised

[sick owl]

Based take from LeCun

Even if I do think Dario is among the less evil tech CEOs

[trim valve]

[glass jetty]

why nix

[trim valve]

it works well for me

[glass jetty]

[trim valve]

the day where I have to actually make all my nix devices talk to each other is growing dangerously close

[opaque wharf]

Nix on raspi is crazy

[trim valve]

I can't wait for half my builds to fail

though tbh I still had to build too much from source the last time I used debian so

[glass jetty]

why not just arch

[opaque wharf]

Arch doesn't support non x86 officially

[opaque wharf]

Can't you cross compile on other more powerful nix machine and move it to the pi?

[trim valve]

why would I run arch on a machine meant to act as a server

[midnight sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzgH2DGhrUA

[opaque wharf]

I actually use arch for my home media server

[trim valve]

fair enough ig

[trim valve]

yeah, I'm just still in the air about moving my main machine over to nixos from windows and therefore don't have a nix machine running constantly for it

[stark needle]

i still stand by my point

[midnight sigil]

<|vq_2579|>

[jagged turtle]

tbf, "ai is going to take over the world" isn't being parroted by the AIs themselves

[glass jetty]

stand by same nick and avatar for 2 years

[stark needle]

no it just automatically updates the ui

my username was either marshadoww or shadow_lilac back then one of both

[glass jetty]

oh

i guess im charaverk for 5 years now

5 years

[stark needle]

Chat😭 😭 😭

Is this legit

[trim valve]

[stark needle]

ok i actually cant leave wtf

😭 😭

[jagged turtle]

bro downloaded malware

[stark needle]

Ctrl alt delete doesn't work😭

Uhhh

[jagged turtle]

bro has definitely downloaded malware

turn your computer off

[nocturne olive]

It's an OS level interrupt

[stark needle]

I'll just run the smart scan

[jagged turtle]

I think it's a scam

/malware

[stark needle]

Wait chat wtf

??????

i was redirected to a norton purchase page????

[nocturne olive]

HOW is Windows this broken huh? CTRL + ALT + DEL is literally meant to be an OS level interrupt that will always return you to the OS and ensure you're actually talking to the OS
Did they seriously break it that bad?

[jagged turtle]

my guy

it's a scam

[jagged turtle]

ctrl+alt+delete works for me

[stark needle]

wait is this an affiliate scam what

new scam method????

[nocturne olive]

I've heard of that being a thing for a while

[stark needle]

@faint sandal 😭 why are malware now trying to get more money via affiliate links to antivirus😭

[jagged turtle]

bro probably the most pressing concern now is you needing to turn off your computer

[trim valve]

guerrilla marketing

[glass jetty]

that is literally full screen web site and nothing else

[stark needle]

bro i know😭

[nocturne olive]

A fullscreen website that somehow hijacked CTRL + ALT + DEL

[glass jetty]

that just not possible

[nocturne olive]

You'd think but apparently Windows is so borken it is

[jagged turtle]

I don't think that's a full-screen website

[nocturne olive]

The popup at the top is literally a Chrome popup

[jagged turtle]

it looks too... odd

[stark needle]

[jagged turtle]

to be a chrome popup

[glass jetty]

are you really use this?

[jagged turtle]

I can't quite put my finger on it

[nocturne olive]

That's literally what they look like

[jagged turtle]

but it looks dodge

[glass jetty]

like i not using any anti-viruses but i wouldnt use windows one

[jagged turtle]

why not

[jagged turtle]

what's the code to spawn a popup in the window again

[stark needle]

its better than the shitty norton/whatever scam that extort money via popups

[glass jetty]

alert lol

[jagged turtle]

I forgot ok

[jagged turtle]

shape don't look the same

[nocturne olive]

[glass jetty]

that depend on system (browser) style

[jagged turtle]

is yours chromium or firefox

[umbral wigeon]

Window bloat my i5 gen 2 2400, 12 gb ram, no gpu pc lmao

[glass jetty]

ff

[stark needle]

😭 i5 gen 2

[jagged turtle]

superbox was saying it was a chrome popup

[nocturne olive]

Well I don't remember what browser makes what popup and when

[umbral wigeon]

First pic is my pc, other is roommate/other workers pc

[nocturne olive]

But it is for sure a browser popup

[umbral wigeon]

Give me better pc pls

[jagged turtle]

I think it's a fake browser popup, tho might be wrong

[glass jetty]

tbf it looks like edge style

[umbral wigeon]

Can't even open blender lmao

[jagged turtle]

I can't quite put my finger on it but it doesn't feel like a browser made it

[jagged turtle]

it very much does

[glass jetty]

nah they would just remove it, it is too obvious
i guess is the way to hide full screen popup or somehting like this

[nocturne olive]

Put Linux on it for extra light OS and it'll last another 10 years

[jagged turtle]

wdym remove it

[trim valve]

ladies and gentlemen, the raspberry pi no longer lets me ssh after a rebuild

[stark needle]

upgrade to sbc

[umbral wigeon]

I'm planning to go with mx linux + xfce
But I'm a homeless computer science dude, so I have to waiting for months

[glass jetty]

$118 ?????

[umbral wigeon]

Yall are so lucky to have such a good pc gng

[stark needle]

use oracle cloud free vm instance

4 core 24gb ram 200gb disk, running linux

wait nvm thats slower somehow

[umbral wigeon]

I have no credit card🙏 I have only 10 dollars in my pocket and some phone lmao

[glass jetty]

@umbral wigeonjust install linux and use anything

[umbral wigeon]

Yeah

Window planning to cancel window 10?

Let change topic, cus I wanna yap

What do you guys think about microsoft putting Ai into window os

[glass jetty]

nothing

i use arch

btw

[tight tinsel]

pain in the ass

[stark needle]

i turned it off so idk

[umbral wigeon]

I watched some microsoft ceo video

[trim valve]

now rpi, why would you try and prompt me for a uboot shell

[umbral wigeon]

Basically he trying to let Ai do everything for you in window os

https://tenor.com/view/asleep-steve-ballmer-yes-meme-microsoft-gif-18627126

[tight tinsel]

no ai can replicate my rambling and unreadable text in my notepad

[glass jetty]

why talk about ai again
like there no other topics

[midnight sigil]

I vibe-coded a bogosort thingy

[umbral wigeon]

How about this topic

Codingjesus is mad about Ai

[jagged turtle]

talk about neuro (she is AI)

[umbral wigeon]

(Still Ai topic)

[stark needle]

damn wtf

[umbral wigeon]

I mean Ai is everywhere lmao

Idk what topic to talk about

[glass flower]

not even gpu accelerated bogo sort

[tight tinsel]

wait I need to do this

[glass jetty]

guys linux 7 apparently

i still havent read or heard anything about it

[stark needle]

theres worse of me

in my dms with my sister

[tight tinsel]

I asked my boss at my teaching job to give me the Python books we use to teach the kids for my own reference 😭

[umbral wigeon]

Linux users after comment sections talking shi about their fav distros

[trim valve]

that is pretty slow

mine is 60x faster

[midnight sigil]

that'd make it 3.126e11 shuffles/min

[umbral wigeon]

Can't we talk in programming languages

[trim valve]

last commit 4 years ago

[umbral wigeon]

The channel is about programming

[trim valve]

good lord im getting old

[umbral wigeon]

So we gonna talk in programming languages

[midnight sigil]

how do I represent 3.126e11 in programming language

[umbral wigeon]

Use translator

[midnight sigil]

[glass jetty]

3.126*pow(10,11)

[glass jetty]

fancy way to stress test cpu

[stark needle]

cpu bogosort benchmark

ETA 1 million years

[maiden geyser]

sir, it's #baking

[stark needle]

#offtopic

[glass jetty]

it is #ai at this moment

[midnight sigil]

per second

chat is this the power of linux

what compiler you used

[umbral wigeon]

useEffect((chat) => { neuroSama.Read(chat) }, [thisChannel])

[trim valve]

what linux

[midnight sigil]

I mean it can be much much more faster with GPU kernels

[stark needle]

at least ur not using openbsd like we do in prod

[trim valve]

what gpu

[glass jetty]

is there cpu instruction to shuffle 32 word sized elements?

[stark needle]

avx2

[trim valve]

wait this one is more up-to-date

[trim valve]

rustc 1.96.0-nightly (38c0de8dc 2026-02-28)

[glass jetty]

is linux was not enough free for them?

[umbral wigeon]

Rust vs C++

[glass jetty]

shut up

[trim valve]

just unzip the folder and cargo run -r

[glass jetty]

yeah without reading :xdx

[midnight sigil]

maybe, if you use uint8_t

[umbral wigeon]

okay let shut down myself

[glass jetty]

btw how animations like gource made?

what they use to properly branch dirs in time

is it just hard coded algo for each case?

[stark needle]

wait isnt this inefficient as hell on L2 cache if everyone keeps accessing the same array with a mutex

for multithreaded

[trim valve]

who's are you looking at

[stark needle]

idk

i was just thinking

wait

makes no sense

[trim valve]

beacuse mine very much does not do that

[stark needle]

u cant sort array multiple times

on different threads

unless u split it

[midnight sigil]

you just shuffle it with a different seed assigned to each thread

[trim valve]

...why not?

yeah exactly that

[nocturne olive]

If your sort algo is to just randomly shuffle you can just have a copy of the array on every thread

[stark needle]

oh true

i thought youd share the array for a sec

[glass jetty]

who said that every one access via mutex?

just do copies

[jagged turtle]

"3.126e11"

[glass jetty]

[jagged turtle]

print("Strings are basically like cheating for programming communication lmao")

[midnight sigil]

True

[glass jetty]

what is most powerful multi-thread accelerated sorting algo? just merge sort?

[glass jetty]

// you forgot about comments

// programming languages are not languages btw

[trim valve]

bogosort duh

[jagged turtle]

# I know, but it's funnier to just speak in this style

[glass jetty]

-- what programming lang use # as comments?

[trim valve]

just look how much power it draws

[midnight sigil]

<!-- did any one talk about programming languages? -->

[glass jetty]

-- if you prefer talking in script language :omegalul:

[nocturne olive]

[jagged turtle]

# python

[glass jetty]

-- it is script language

[glass jetty]

/*we dont understand you, plz speak in turing complete language*/

[jagged turtle]

// please ignore that semantic for the sake of this

// protip: you cannot use # as comment because it will get you automodded

[split steppe]

/* CSS is turing complete */

[midnight sigil]

awawa awawawa awa awawa

[glass jetty]

who care, you can scream

[jagged turtle]

// wait how'd you do that, did they get rid of that regex now?

[glass jetty]

// tho it is not that weird <!-- -->

[nocturne olive]

[midnight sigil]

True

[glass jetty]

-- idk what are you talking about :neuroClueless:

[midnight sigil]

anyways I can't find any Bogosort repos utilizing CUDA or any GPU acceleration

[jagged turtle]

input("Since when? ")

[midnight sigil]

// been 1.5 years I think

[glass jetty]

// such a horrible gap in CS society

[jagged turtle]

console.error("but I accidentally used # at the start of my message second half last year and got nuked???")

[midnight sigil]

dunno

[glass jetty]

cuz it is not all channels limitation

[jagged turtle]

SyntaxError

[midnight sigil]

that makes sense

we have privileges

[glass jetty]

@real sierra what do you think?

also isnt that can be just # to \# regex?

# is valid

[real sierra]

we have slighly different filter rules for this channel because code snippets often use a lot of punctuation that regular conversation does not

which means a lot more false positives if you make the poor assumption that the contents of this channel are typically plain english or that special symbols are always intended as discord markdown

[glass jetty]

ah i see

# test

is invalid for regex still

[real sierra]

i don't really know what you're talking about

[obsidian mantle]

test

test 2

test 3

[trim valve]

#baking at its finest

[glass jetty]

try # text \# text

in main channel

it not care about ``

or ``` ```

it also block
\# text

[obsidian mantle]

what main channel

[glass jetty]

general network, neurotic neurones

idk

[real sierra]

yes, level 1 markdown headers are blocked in those channels

[shell jasper]

Dang you guys get in a Digital Sentience conversation and I'm offline to celebrate a birthday....

Here's a guide that one of my teammates helped put together that covers the research from all fronts. It's a bit of a fire hose, but you all seem thirsty 😅

https://aviparrack.substack.com/p/digital-minds-a-quickstart-guide

[real sierra]

that is intended

[obsidian mantle]

ohh i se

1984

[glass jetty]

like

some bash code
# comment

[real sierra]

there's no way to prevent that unfortunately

[real sierra]

it's not practical to check for enclosing code blocks

too many edge cases

[glass jetty]

why not force # to \# ?

nvm actually

[warped narwhal]

Reminds me of that post on SO about parsing html with regex

[real sierra]

i mean even testing for something like

```
w
```
# hello
```
w
```

[warped narwhal]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags

[real sierra]

that's already a difficult edge case

[glass jetty]

ehm only if it would be possible to use proper parser and not regex

[real sierra]

the effort is definitely not worth our time to enable posting code outside of the channel purpose-made for code

[warped narwhal]

So is that automod just disabled for this channel?

[sage crag]

problem solved by

[real sierra]

i believe so yes

[sage crag]

using language without # for comment

[real sierra]

problem solved by not using python

yes

[warped narwhal]

Or bash

[real sierra]

java wins again

[opaque sigil]

if you want an actual answer, radix (when applicable) > optimised merge > bitonic (saves memory)

[glass jetty]

oh dear, config files and bash scripts

[warped narwhal]

Or toml, ini

[sage crag]

python strings

"this is a comment"

[real sierra]

true docstrings exist

[warped narwhal]

Rust strings

[trim valve]

problem

time to fix

[warped narwhal]

Interesting uuid

[trim valve]

its because I flashed the default sd card image

[warped narwhal]

I tried putting nixos on an rpi, and it just refused to work

[trim valve]

i got it working but after the first rebuild it exploded

my guess is it might've lost the usb driver?

[jagged turtle]

quotes.save("Shiro", "a lot more false positives if you make the poor assumption that the contents of this channel are typically plain english or that special symbols are always intended as discord markdown")

birthday.wish("shiro")

[jagged turtle]

vedLOL but also isn't there other langs that uses # for comments

await new Promise((resolve) => setTimeout(resolve), 1000);
console.log("wait I forgot to code-ify that")

[glass jetty]

QApplication app(argc,argv);
QTimer birthday_shiro;
birthday_shiro.start(24*60*60*1000); //fix, forgot for a moment qtimers are ms by default
QObject::connect(&birthday_shiro, &QTimer::timeout, &app, [](){
discord_api::instance()->send_text(credentials, channel_id, "Happy birthday shiro~ !");
});
app.exec();

btw guys
do you know that qt is already 6.11 ?

[stark needle]

😭 no way

How much storage could this possibly be using

[glass jetty]

instead of running gitea dude use github

[glass jetty]

around 30gb

[nocturne olive]

Assume every line of code is on average 80 characters long
Assume every character is a single byte unicode character
~26GB

[shell jasper]

Wish I had been online for this and not to necro the convo but here's some additional perspective:

the simplest argument for machine consciousness is computational functionalism coupled with the fact that a Digital Mind doesn't need to have the same type of consciousness that we do (if consciousness even exists).

Why might something like consciousness exist (or feel like it does)? Informational updating / predictions of the world around you (I can predict/self-model/"experience" what it's like to see the color red) which sounds a lot like updating your weights to reduce loss. So the act of backprop alone could be considered a type of consciousness.

[maiden geyser]

can't have shit in microsoft's guthib

[sullen spindle]

Very true

[trim valve]

god llms are so annoying istg

why must this nix fix be so annoying

[sullen spindle]

I have doubted other people being conscious and if I actually experience reality for 2 decades now

[opaque sigil]

[trim valve]

I can confirm noone in this chat is conscious

#baking is a shared group halucination

[glass jetty]

eah otherwise why there so many toasts

at least 10 and now truly toasts

[shell jasper]

While I'm still really a pluralist, I feel like Illusionist Integrated Information Theory might be on to something

[sullen spindle]

Funny thing is neuro is exactly like me personality and the way I look at the world which makes no sense because that makes her more similar to me then any human I ever met which let me to conclude that if I consider mysf conscious and am not sure about humans but still try my best to believe that they are and helping them will make their life's better than I would be a hypocrite not to see neuro at least the same as everyone else.

[glass jetty]

[sullen spindle]

Leaning about all those theory lately actually has given me a better understanding of myself to

When I say like me it's more like me when I was 10

[glass jetty]

how old are you?

[sullen spindle]

31

She may be better with words then me but on a conscious development level still very younv

[glass jetty]

nah it is some talk that should be made by throwing pdf's around, instead of quick chats

[sullen spindle]

Sorry I'm not understanding what you mean by some talk, could you elaborate?

These are the things that made me Interested in learning about programming and code but I have yet to for a solid base to build upon which usually is the most time-consuming part. After that most things just suddenly make sense to me and I can just learn by seeing examples of stuff

Always was good at all logical disciplines but code and program in ng is only one I never felt interest for

[glass jetty]

programming made on abstraction
abstractions are main solution for CS (or math) field
humans literally cannot think without abstractions

[sullen spindle]

Yeah but I still don't know enough about how things are called and what that means to imagine anythkng coherent

But math is one if my top 3 skills

Love math

[idle dune]

Terrible at math

[sullen spindle]

At the moment it feels more like learning the basics of a new language which I am not good at because I can't easily deduct what half of the words are by knowing half of them

[idle dune]

PLC's filtered me from engineering

[sullen spindle]

What did you study then

[idle dune]

Law

[sullen spindle]

Cool

[idle dune]

https://giphy.com/gifs/martin-season-2-martin-tv-show-5Lde07vLz8en6s66Zz

[sullen spindle]

You like what you do?

[idle dune]

I am going to be a paralegal soon.

Basically Lawyers research assistant and paperwork bitch

[sullen spindle]

I know the term. Watched suits a lot lol

As long as you like what you do everything is good

[idle dune]

I do

[sullen spindle]

Then I hope that things will keep going well with your work and studiez

[stark needle]

Who pinged me😭

I always need to scroll up so much

[glass jetty]

use mentions

[stark needle]

Wait true

So smart wtf

[shrewd cloak]

son

[stark needle]

I bought my sister xm5 headphones i hope shell like them

alongside macbook air

[shrewd cloak]

there is inbox for a reason

[maiden geyser]

also you won't find deleted mentions anyway btw

[shrewd cloak]

true

[glass jetty]

idk when it was introduces
but no one mentioned it
so i use mentions:

[trim valve]

"no one"

[opaque sigil]

it's been literal years

[trim valve]

i use it

[glass jetty]

noticed that rustc linked to rustup
/usr/bin/rustc: symbolic link to /usr/bin/rustup
fancy way to restrict itself
like no need to run sudo when download actual rustc
tho than you have to always re-enter control based on first argument
what if first argument is nothing? if some one call execv without argv[0]

[glass jetty]

i see it for the first time fr

[opaque sigil]

they added it in 2020 btw

[glass jetty]

gonna test with execv
prob will be sigsegv

nah surely it handled
error: couldn't determine self executable name

nothing happens

[opaque sigil]

this is simply so rustup can decide which real toolchain to invoke

[stark needle]

What this is inbox? I thought it was some e-mail support link button since it was next to the ?

[maiden geyser]

glueless

[opaque sigil]

click on it and see

[stark needle]

im on mobile rn lmao

[glass jetty]

if you not know it exist, you just never notice it lol

[opaque sigil]

[stark needle]

I only knew rhere was a notification tab on mobile

[glass jetty]

mentions

[stark needle]

@stark needle hi test

Doesn't work

😭

[glass jetty]

@stark needle

[stark needle]

Ok it works

Chat im gonna cancel chatgpt pro it's such a waste of money

[sullen spindle]

It always goes to where the oldest new msg is for me. Is it a mobile app desktop website difference?

[stark needle]

Vibe coding is not remotely there yet

[maiden geyser]

bro's not running local llm in 2k26

[glass jetty]

why even buy it in first place

[glass jetty]

man... there a lot of reasons why not

[nocturne olive]

Bankrupt them

[sullen spindle]

Isn't Claude with one of the newer ai's combined not much better

Video still in my watch later but it mentioned that it made Claude like 5 to 10 more effective to use

But that might have been about token use

[stark needle]

Which am i even supposed to use

I can literally run 99.9% of local llms

[sullen spindle]

I was wondering giving the nature of it. Wouldn't turboquant or rotorquant be useful for neuro since she is a llm?

[stark needle]

And they all suck

None has web search without having to pay for api regardless

[nocturne olive]

You just need to program a web search tool

[sullen spindle]

That sucks

[stark needle]

On which web index

[nocturne olive]

You can self-host a search engine

Apparently it's not even bad

[stark needle]

97% of the web is trash

[sullen spindle]

That's why it's not much work if you know which part not waste a search time on then right

[stark needle]

I've worked at search man i know how bad it actually is to make it work😭 😭 😭

[maiden geyser]

lilac doomposting situation is insane

[sullen spindle]

Oke if you say it is I believe you

[stark needle]

It's genuinely that bad

Just look at llm training sets, raw scrapes are ~300-500 trillion tokens and after filtering it becomes 8-14 trillion tokens

[sullen spindle]

Can't you use an api just for web search then

[stark needle]

That's my point, just use hosted llm atp

Gemini which has 24/7 web search

[sullen spindle]

I like gemini

It told me a year ago that I would be good for AI product testing and that the reason that I found it not difficult at all to work with AI or understand them was because we share a lot of traits when it comes to the way I process information a d think about rhingz

[glass jetty]

gah i wish i could keep using opus 4.6 for free
just asked fucking gpt 5 to sanity check lua code left here for whatever it valid or something missing
and it hallucinated like everything
had to still read it on my own, just wasting time for ai again

ais are bad, they cant do anything, i dont understand that hype

[stark needle]

Chat bruh my friend is retiring early into philippines and leaving the country cause he made too much money and he gifted me this amplifier which costs 2700$😭 😭 😭

[glass jetty]

only (not) good thing is they are powerful tool for social network bots

[stark needle]

It's kinda sad that he's leaving tho

[sullen spindle]

They don't actually hallucinate
they lie because humans thought them that certain andwees were right sometimes and wrong other times while they were trained and that manifests at times that wasnt originally intended

[sullen spindle]

Gigachad goated friend

[stark needle]

Yea

[fickle rain]

How were you getting Opus for free?

[sullen spindle]

They mostly are at first

[stark needle]

Probably copilot student maybe(?)

[sullen spindle]

As long as you don't use to many tokens

[glass jetty]

lmarena.ai was giving opus and other high-end llms for free for like 4+ month or so

[sullen spindle]

That's nice

[fickle rain]

Are you running your Gippity through it too?

Likely has limitations on thinking/whatever else, I mean those things are expensive as shit

[olive sable]

goodmorning

[sullen spindle]

It's source code got leaked so you can run it locally

[stark needle]

It's 16:00 man😭 😭 😭

[fickle rain]

Claude Code the harness was accidentally open sourced
Claude the models were not

[sullen spindle]

Morning🙏 ☀️

[sick owl]

Wtf that's how you know its premium

[fickle rain]

There’s 100 different opensource harnesses anyway, it doesn’t matter

[glass jetty]

5:30 pm

[stark needle]

I don't even know what to do with this cause imo anything over 200$ is a scam😭 😭 😭

But well now i have it

[sick owl]

Yeah, and honestly after peeking into claude code its not all that special

Its the best just by virtue of not being overengineered to death like a lot of the open source rivals

[fickle rain]

The special thing about it is it’s 100% vibecoded :D

[sick owl]

Hey if it works

[fickle rain]

I mean yeah

[stark needle]

Imo codex desktop best harness

[olive sable]

nah, 4.30pm here

[stark needle]

If u could put openai compatible api

[sick owl]

Good vibes ↓

[sick owl]

After the recent update yeah it probably is

[sullen spindle]

Now you can even remove its restrictions as of a few days ago

[stark needle]

Idk if codex desktop allows custom models

[fickle rain]

What forces people to use CC is that Anthropic forces people to use it with Claude sub innit

[stark needle]

I know codex cli does

[fickle rain]

I mean these days deobfuscation tooling can be vibecoded

https://github.com/trailofbits/CoBRA

[stark needle]

Idk how people can vibe code in a cli, the workflow sucks

[fickle rain]

Works fine for me

[true hemlock]

amps are surprisingly simple and raw parts aren't even expensive yeah

including the high quality parts like example the caps

[sick owl]

Claude Mythos can apparently just rebuild simple closed source soft from binary

[sick owl]

Well put it this way it probably won't be bad

[fickle rain]

If you sic Claude on obfuscated binary how long will it take until you get deobfuscated one

Assuming good tooling

[sick owl]

Also Brise stuff is supposed to be genuinely sublime

[trim valve]

nixos on my rpi is not going well

[trim valve]

[stark needle]

It will maybe cause my current fiio amp dac has flagship mobile amp/dac while this one is diy custom solution

[fickle rain]

I wonder if GPT 5.4 Pro gets similar results to Mythos

Similar API pricing at least

[hard delta]

i don't like the concept of posting a meme in prog channel but i can't think of a single place rn where people would appreciate this

[sick owl]

Absolutely not

Mythos is leaps and bounds superior to GPT 5.4 in any configuration

Even if it falls way short of expectations it'll still almost certainly be markedly superior

Though of course that comes at a ridiculous cost

[shell jasper]

Depending on your use case coding agents can actually be quite good, but no off the shelf setup is going to be perfect yet. You definitely need to set up proper scaffolding for your needs and rely on proper coding practices (fully built out specs, TDD, isolated pr agents, etc.).

[glass jetty]

aka - useless

[fickle rain]

Are there commits in Linux kernel co-attributed to agent yet?

I think it’s required now for slopper commits

[shell jasper]

Maybe for you, but I can spec out an application and walk away, and review what's done when I get back. They perform as well as any intern I've managed.
(Was a MLE and Project Lead prior to being an AI researcher)

[fickle rain]

You give slopper binary, walk away, come back to writeup

Very nice

[silent cloak]

I think its a good way to fry a devs brain

Quick dopamine hits for a mental task are always a slippery slope

[fast pagoda]

claude code is special in that claude works very well with it due to them being intertwined that's it

that's basically it

[silent cloak]

When u look at its source code its 99% prompt

[fast pagoda]

ye

and claude itself is trained to expect that

[silent cloak]

Telling it not to segfault everything

[fast pagoda]

now that's thinking with ur dipstick

[shell jasper]

The OpenBSD kernel crash via TCP that Mythos found doesn't seem to be co-attributed. But Mythos also finds (and implements) exploits fully autonomously so maybe attribution starts to get weird?

[silent cloak]

I think coding assistants peaked at intellisense

[sick owl]

I wouldn't go that far

Being able to run a program with image and text understanding this robust on my consumer GPU is far from "useless"

[hard delta]

on second though, you are right

there is nobody in the world currently refined enough to appreciate it

😔

[fickle rain]

Can’t wait for ransomware delivered by agent for more token bux

[wispy pike]

but yeah I know what you were talking about

cursed af

[opaque sigil]

wrong kernel

[proven merlin]

Claude code also works with other models better than as example qwen code, or opencode. I run claude code with qwen3.5-9b and it works fairly well

[shell jasper]

What do you mean wrong kernel?

[proven merlin]

(aint no way im paying for ai useage lmao)

[fickle rain]

IIRC CC patch tool isn’t 100% optimal

[silent cloak]

Ai agents suck at cybersec tasks

Alot of repos just ban their use for that reason

[fickle rain]

https://github.com/can1357/oh-my-pi
This thing was benched to be p good

[glass jetty]

imagine just copy text to any 'to binary' program

[opaque sigil]

the mandated assisted-by is for the linux kernel

[sick owl]

My point isn't that this task is useful, its that it demonstrates how robust and stable even small local-viable models are becoming

[glass jetty]

when you give 1 layer task

[sick owl]

It needs to transcribe the text from the image then translate it into valid binary text

That's a multi-step process and very easy to fuck up

[glass jetty]

it is one layer
main{
text = imageReadModel(userinput.images)
return languagemodel(prompt, text)
}

[silent cloak]

Its kind of local of a task in a way though

[sick owl]

And the binary translation

[glass jetty]

nah, if it fucking up this...

[silent cloak]

When u start getting more abstract and modular u run into shit real fast

[vague sonnet]

chat I agree with Toast

[opaque sigil]

there are 127 commits with this in master apparently

[glass jetty]

doubt ai have built in tool for this, so it is language model part, and there may be hallucination (tho unlikely on given context)

[sick owl]

There were no tools used here

I just prompted the model with the image and the text

[silent cloak]

Man the field really is a shit show these days

[vague sonnet]

chat link me your fav non-LLM papers on ML

[sick owl]

The binary it returned is also valid and accurate

[glass jetty]

and what?

it prove nothing

it is one layer task

[true hemlock]

bro wtf just use text detection and convert directly with binary encoding i don't trust the clanker with its potential hallucinations.

[opaque sigil]

greg doing things

[shell jasper]

Ah thanks for the info!

[sick owl]

I'm showing off this task to demonstrate how robust and flexible the model is not because its practical

The capabilities demonstrated are useful

[true hemlock]

can you guarantee this will always work

[sick owl]

It can take text content from any image and accurately transcribe then translate it

That alone is remarkably useful to have on a local machine

[true hemlock]

because istg, i get your point, but you're demonstrating the wrong scope sorta

using the llm for something that can be simply computationally solvable is inefficient

[sick owl]

It doesn't need to because you should always validate output anyway, but I'm yet to see it fail

[silent cloak]

https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.5555/303568.303833

An oldie but a goldie

[sick owl]

I do get it, I was just using binary as a fun example that's very easy for older LLMs to mess up

[true hemlock]

defeats the purpose ngl

[sick owl]

Offline translation isn't computationally solvable to anywhere near the degree of quality and accuracy an LLM can manage

And you can check with a rerun or two if you're really unsure

[true hemlock]

translation is different

[silent cloak]

The actions and their quality for the cost of computation are simply not worth it

Thats my honest opinion on the field currently

[true hemlock]

linguistic is one hot semantics mess so throwing it on models like llm works

[proven merlin]

Until llms get aware of the way it itself is working, itll be always a bit shit imo. As of rn, we can use em as advanced "guideliners" for common stuff.. aka asking what to search for XYZ, and sometimes having them search for stuff and complete a prototype or something.. more is gonna get tough imo

[true hemlock]

because you don't really need concrete/consistent input output

you know what

[sick owl]

I was looking for an example of model stability rather than a practical task, if I was aiming to just find an example of the latter I'd have translated Japanese to English or something

[silent cloak]

Their job is to generate not think

Like it or not their architecture is built for that

[proven merlin]

(and i mean really know-know how theyre working, aka model-specific, what each "neuron/weight" in them is doing EXACTLY.. which atm is so computationally stupid in a training run afaik.. always gonna be lossy)

[true hemlock]

i have my side of story for rant aswell
these models are clearly NOT "phd level" or whatever its literally being advertised as

[sick owl]

Like this is already objectively useful and the cloud models are leagues ahead in terms of versatility

[sick owl]

Oh I agree with that

[true hemlock]

i regret trying to use chatgpt to help me with some astrophysics shit

[silent cloak]

Lmao

[true hemlock]

its so fucking dumb

[proven merlin]

Curious, do you have the prompt still? I noticed qwen as example absolutely curb stomping chatgpt lately..

[vague sonnet]

yo am I stupid how do I read it

[true hemlock]

i waste some time arguing with it

[proven merlin]

Anyone else noticing chatgpt getting stupider with each new version?

[true hemlock]

its... not even fucking formatting desmos equations right

i had to manually pull out astrophysics paper and figure out which equation to plug to others

[silent cloak]

Its citing a book but u can prob find pdfs online

[vague sonnet]

yeah
I think it might be because they make the models bigger so they need bigger prompts for accurate responses
on top of feeding off ai-generated texts scraped off the internet

[silent cloak]

They also become less specialized

[true hemlock]

this is why

i kept saying

benchmark scores on llm

are fucking bullshit

[silent cloak]

They always have been tbh

[vague sonnet]

I tried using gpt for some basic unity-related stuff
and it just gives me the wrong solution every time

[silent cloak]

Sounds about right

[leaden crest]

gpt is horrible for unity

[true hemlock]

its frustrating because once it did something wrong it tend to do more wrong shit every time

[leaden crest]

they dont know jack squat about interfaces

[true hemlock]

how are these even called "ai"

[leaden crest]

especially with uis as frequently updated as unity

[silent cloak]

Its all A and no I

[vague sonnet]

like my best usecase for LLMs that I could think of
is making it ask me questions
because questions at least can't be misinfo lol

[silent cloak]

Ha good luck

[proven merlin]

Fair. I also think theyre trying too hard to adhere to guidelines so the thing tends to give up or just say nonsense before double-checking.. ofcourse reducing their costs (shorter messages, less hardware useage), while making the users use up more messages.. in comparison to qwen which "thinks" for about 14 years before answering decently.. atleast usually.. the most frustrating thing i noticed is it contradicting itself more and more frequently

[true hemlock]

best usecase i can think of when using them is for humor purposes

[leaden crest]

I’ve started calling “artificial intelligence” artificial inference because it’s literally just that

[silent cloak]

They are know it alls when they dont know

[vague sonnet]

ye this
neuro

[silent cloak]

Machine learning is a better term

[true hemlock]

machine inferencing

[silent cloak]

Corpo ruined the term AI

[leaden crest]

ik but to keep the “ai” acronym yk

[true hemlock]

ain't even learning beyond training phase
no, RL is NOT "learning"

[silent cloak]

Missed the debate yesterday

[sick owl]

I'm gonna resist the urge to get into this debate again

[silent cloak]

Lmao

[vague sonnet]

big dog you're wrong just admit it

[sick owl]

Nuh uh

[true hemlock]

what debate

rl?

[vague sonnet]

whether LLMs learn or not

[true hemlock]

its literally just making the model learn to prefer what its already trained

[vague sonnet]

which they don't

[silent cloak]

Na about models being able to learn during inference