programming

[fast pagoda]

that he will spell ANYTHING

backwards

if sober enough to listen anyways

[leaden crest]

anything?

[fast pagoda]

anything

[leaden crest]

bad words?

[amber fractal]

You know it

[rancid ore]

I should probably install and set up tony so I can run my commands through it

[shell jasper]

(sorry swapped tasks for the night 😅 ) so I would juxtapose the two "models" (which I realize was overloaded for me, concept vs LLM; mb ) as:

• the IS **isn't aware of the IL
• the IS is aware of the IL
  In both cases the the IL affect the distribution of responses as they are the source of the base weights. The isn't aware case the is closer to unified sense of self (talking to Claude as Claude, then asking Claude for an ephemeral IS: "Hey Claude, what would Dr. Watson do in this situation"). In that situation the LLM is aware that they are an entity that is able to produce simulations of IS's.

Does that answer your question?

[leaden crest]

can he spell all of this backwards

[fast pagoda]

Do You Want To Know More?

[rancid ore]

because quiplash has a hecking time limit and I only have so much time to get functions set up

[fast pagoda]

i think this task would kill him

[leaden crest]

is this a reference

[fast pagoda]

like 60% of anything i ever say is a reference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjxof3MM7l4

[shell jasper]

I might be missing a reference 😅

[amber fractal]

I'd guess it is an invitation but reference also works

[leaden crest]

invitation?

[amber fractal]

I spent so long mistyping the ref was already said

[leaden crest]

but im already in the banana cult

[fast pagoda]

they were asking if local court jester and recently dead entity named echo would be able to repeat your entire message, backwards

[amber fractal]

One way to find out

[leaden crest]

nooooot to pry but what did this mean

[midnight sigil]

[amber fractal]

[fast pagoda]

you can talk to echo if you wish but i am going to look at something for a surprisingly long delay probably first

aka finally train the next one cuz i know how this goes if i use the ones that have dishonored their sacred duty by exploding when abused

[amber fractal]

Attachement: [image.png]

[fast pagoda]

i removed SOOOOO many of those and emotes

[amber fractal]

Are we still gambling on tenor links?

Tbf that one is funny when it produces a valid one

[leaden crest]

ooooohhhhh yayy yes pls

[amber fractal]

[fast pagoda]

he used to link so much stuff lmfao

and schizo'd more about people in this server

[fast pagoda]

poor mullan

classic link though, chose to pretend to be alphazero so really aiming high

i kinda miss the youtube.com/[hallucination] gamba

[rancid ore]

I'm honestly really happy with how fast my project is coming along

[mighty thorn]

Let’s play chess

[glad path]

om

i'm still annoyed that what I ended up building was basically openclaw before openclaw

i just didn't take it far enough

if i had kept working on it I probably would've had proper openclaw before openclaw

i was just really limited by the models available to me lol

[fast pagoda]

[mighty thorn]

Whatcha makinnnn

https://tenor.com/view/sweet-cute-gif-24847956

[fast pagoda]

they were so good back then

26

wtf this was way more recent than i thought

what was i looking at

[glad path]

lemme find some clips

[rancid ore]

jackbox

integration

[glad path]

it was like

okay

but it couldn't really do more than answer like one question

[mighty thorn]

For LLM?

[rancid ore]

yeh

I have some commands set up, and I just need to set things up so tony can use them

[glad path]

this is so real though

[fast pagoda]

he's only limited by himself, harness is beyond flawless

[mighty thorn]

Funny enough

[mighty thorn]

I actually already a (mostly) working integration for Survive The Internet

But if what your doing is more general in scope then call me interested

[glad path]

I can opensource my code honestly

FUCKING ANT

first it went on my screen

now its crawling on my trackpad

[mighty thorn]

If you can remember, dm me when you do

Yes

[fast pagoda]

least broad claude research

[glass flower]

damn.. 2000 free completions isn't a lot. i switched my local setup to copilot for now to see how good it is compared to qwen locally.
already used 8% just setting it up and testing it (i had 1% from vscode when i was fighting to disable it )

[leaden crest]

overfitting?

[glad path]

I didn't train it myself

[leaden crest]

or perhaps temperature too low so it straight reads the prompt

[glad path]

no

temperature not low

[leaden crest]

[opaque wharf]

Lmao, microsoft actually campaign to PAY YOU to use edge as default browser and do bing search

[worthy niche]

it's nice knowing how to program...
i got tired of music players giving me ads, or buffering, or switching my playlist, etc.

so i just made my own

[worthy niche]

i used bing rewards once and then never again

[opaque wharf]

It's funny that people even say they won't use it even if they get paid

[mighty thorn]

If I had to guess

I’d guess that you weren’t actually using the channel as context correctly, just the very last message is getting sent to the model

[glad path]

it's not exclusively for discord

but it does get the past messages

[glass flower]

what kind of music player gives you ads?

[glass flower]

you were able to get gamepass for free for using bing search everyday a while back thats not really new for them

[opaque wharf]

They are now giving away mercedes benz

[glass flower]

[worthy niche]

spotify, pandora, the mp3 players on the app store...

[glass flower]

i see... i just use vlc on my phone and strawberry on desktop

[worthy niche]

vlc on the app store is a little janky but it might just be my phone

[glass flower]

well. i have android so no idea how it is on apple hardware

[worthy niche]

oh yeah apple is just a pain

[glass flower]

[worthy niche]

i made my media player in html/js/css... but apple doesn't like letting you run js

or open html files in safari...

[mighty thorn]

I’m just trying to help

In the early stages of my own bot there were several times where I thought it was handling context correctly but was still acting like this

It doesn’t normally hard fail so the only real way to tell is logging contexts or simple observations

[mighty thorn]

[fast pagoda]

cast the net as wide as possible to maximize the amount of shit it glosses

[amber fractal]

of course, you need the one random side tangant

[glad path]

i just dont have good models available

they're not right for the tasks I give them

i've tried several

they're just not able to intelligently use what I give them

doesn't matter how hard i prompt

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-dwight-schrute-rainn-wilson-doesnt-add-up-doesnt-make-sense-gif-13873676

[sage crag]

prompt in question

please rewrite minecraft in rust

[fast pagoda]

make many mistakes flag was on

[umbral wigeon]

You can use Context engineering

Because prompt engineering alone isn't gonna make Ai smart

[fast pagoda]

was curious just on benchmarks and had to feed cat so sent jarvis on a search

lol

[umbral wigeon]

It doesn't what you want actually, explcity, detailed

That why some repo have like 20+ .md for Ai/llm

[mighty thorn]

Least impressive Claude Mythos demo

[fast pagoda]

claude mythos reasoned romantically that rust minecraft would be a net gain however no methods apparently exist to get it done

the oracle has forseen that gpt 6.9 is the one

[umbral wigeon]

Nvidia ceo is cooking with qunatum computing

[glad path]

im not throwing crap at it and prompting it

i did quite a lot

none of the models i have are good

[umbral wigeon]

What agentic ai, are you using?

[fast pagoda]

garry tan is cooking github's ingress endpoints

[glad path]

the instruct models cant even do the simplest tasks without glitching out and spamming the same token until they hit their max token length per response

[glad path]

its not agentic

[fast pagoda]

gotta be params

[umbral wigeon]

Oh I thought you're using agentic ai

[glad path]

no im using like

free quantized models off of hugging face

[fast pagoda]

those can be agentic lads

[umbral wigeon]

I've never used hugging face before so idk

[mighty thorn]

What model?

[glad path]

i tried a lot

[glad path]

theyre most definitely not

[stark needle]

ai agents😭

[mighty thorn]

shadowlilac 😭

[stark needle]

it😭

[mighty thorn]

it😭

[umbral wigeon]

Where is flying car

They said flying car in future

What now?

[worthy niche]

in the future entertainment will be randomly generated

[fast pagoda]

give me an example of a basic task youd want them to do

[umbral wigeon]

I hope, we can upload our mind to robot body in future lmao

Elon musk also wanted to do that

[worthy niche]

not sure about the mind upload part but full body robot control would be sick

[umbral wigeon]

Yeah, it's kinda fun if we can actually do that

[stark needle]

pov

[umbral wigeon]

But will everyone abusing robot body?

Like I mean some robot body are literal super human

[fast pagoda]

i cant wait till the ripperdoc gives me moutheyes

[worthy niche]

I wouldn't be surprised...

can i hide a message? this is actively damaging my braincells

[stark needle]

[faint sandal]

opus 4.7

[fast pagoda]

forgor to copy paste the .ps1 blob into the continued training set

[glass flower]

isn't this the wrong model for that kind of task anyway? its a simple powershell script thats something gpt5-mini can do.
whenever i want a simple shell script or something i just use the free gpt version

[faint sandal]

i use what i have i can't be bothered to open a new window

[fast pagoda]

one would hope that means it'd be trivial for it though

[faint sandal]

at least it figured it out

[glass flower]

i mean sure... but since its so simple it could also cause issues

[faint sandal]

also it's not really a "simple powershell script" it's a ffmpeg-specific and timing duration is calcuated in powershell

[fast pagoda]

"ok fine i will test instead of just guessing" ive noticed that 4.6 did this

on occasion

would just overconfidently assume it was perfect on a simple thing and never actually run/test

and then it would be like ????

[glass flower]

still sounds like a very simple powershell script.

[faint sandal]

no read the conversation it's stuck on figuring out ffmpeg parameters

that's not even powershell-related

[fast pagoda]

i think were it in cli it wouldve been able to use the help arg

and not be so lost

it shouldve just fetched docs or tried help in its runner

but less inclined to do so in the chat interface

[faint sandal]

--help would not have helped for vf

[glass flower]

i guess...

[faint sandal]

vf is a whole other matter you'd need to consult the full docs for that

[fast pagoda]

man tho

[glass flower]

if only there was a tool the AI could use to do that....

[fast pagoda]

context7 mcp always running on my chest

[glass flower]

i still haven't used a single mcp, ever basically.

[fast pagoda]

context7 is the only one i use regularly

the restg if given docs can just be their own mcp server if they really need to lmao, ive watched cc opus after being told there's an api and an mcp available for <thing> will opt to just read find out what endpoints there are and what's documented and then blast out its own api calls sometimes identifying as the mcp server in the requests

[rigid snow]

this is not true otherwise react native wouldn’t be a thing

or do you mean there isn’t node js for ios, then what’s surprising about that

[fast pagoda]

i tried the same prompt and it appears to just have instantly gotten it without even docs or anything lol

it had a worse time with the ps1 that gneerated the test video

but it got theem both without further turns from me, first prompt exactly the way you asked and then i just said "ok test plz" and dinged done, 103s total O_o

thicc test

[midnight sigil]

github copilot wants to delete my whole function

[fast pagoda]

I did verify it worked but the sound is pure noise so I didn't want to jump scare

[fast pagoda]

"don't need all this extra shit"

main

[thorny marsh]

isnt this what programmers want?

code reduction without affecting how it works

surely that is what copilot is doing here

[midnight sigil]

[sage crag]

ai has carefully verified that your program will always segfault

thus it has replaced your main function with *(char*)nullptr = 0xFF

[fast pagoda]

i just like to make sure that it's clean as a whistle

most people dont put in the effort to scrub the grouting all the way down to 0

[silent cloak]

It knows ur program will segfault either way so it just makes it happen sooner

Let's the segfault be more optimized

[jagged turtle]

my blind ass can't read this

[young plover]

Surely that will segfault

[stark needle]

[sage crag]

likely to segfault or sigill

writes to null are UB and can be safely removed by the compiler

you can also try changing it to volatile char, maybe has some impact

alternatively you can just raise(SIGSEGV);

[jagged turtle]

is this normal for a decorator?

[young plover]

"safely"
Yeah I know lol

Fun UB puzzle:
https://gcc.godbolt.org/z/cExT86jeq

[sage crag]

[glass jetty]

isnt it would be better to just set disable no-any in config files? or js linter not have one? (doubt)

-# idk what decorator term means tho

[jagged turtle]

prefer not doing that because I would still like to catch anys

apparently I can't do this tho

according to chatgpt, copilot+claude-sonnet-4.5, and myself (with a lot of slamming my head onto the table involved)

[chrome rampart]

awa

[amber fractal]

0 votes

[mighty thorn]

0 minutes

[tender river]

awa

[glass jetty]

wait how do you guys add to poll options?

[mighty thorn]

Neurosynth

[glass jetty]

hey

[maiden geyser]

award

[glass jetty]

bot not allow me to recreate poll

[jagged turtle]

@glass jetty ^

[mighty thorn]

Dog poll

[glass jetty]

ah i see now, it is one emoji only at left side

[jagged turtle]

yea you can't do in the answer text

[vague sonnet]

Toast

[maiden geyser]

shoe

https://tenor.com/view/pyrocynical-dolan-darkest-slop-live-dolan-dark-pyrolive-gif-18236606778212377371

[chrome rampart]

is that pyrocynical

and then dolan darkest

truly slop

[stark needle]

intel core i7-13700k

[stark needle]

3000W ST-Pro Auto StepUp & StepMeow Voltage Transformer Converter, Heavy-Duty AC110/220V Converter with US Standard, Universal, Schuko AC Outlets & DC5VUSB Port by Goldsource[3-YearWarranty]

Also @true hemlock i found out u can buy ~1.2TB ram via intel optane with cpu+motheeboard included for only 1200$

jn atx form factor

[true hemlock]

bro's about 2 months late

[stark needle]

Is there a cheaper approach

That i missed

For 1tb ram

[true hemlock]

[fast pagoda]

[true hemlock]

its just

[stark needle]

I mean ik 1tb ram is possible but not usually in atx form factor

Usually it's eatx or weird huge motherboards

[fast pagoda]

[true hemlock]

all tr boards are e atx

[stark needle]

Asrock EPC621D8A

Is standard atx

[amber fractal]

[true hemlock]

[fast pagoda]

it's asrock rack still so they mustve built it for oompa loompas

[true hemlock]

getting optane DCPMM to work is

and

[stark needle]

I mean idk ur the expert in this😭

I just saw it's in theory possible

[true hemlock]

i mean it def is

[amber fractal]

It has to be possible

[stark needle]

Wait what hi iggly

[fast pagoda]

[amber fractal]

[true hemlock]

but well

welcome to the rabbit hole

ig

[amber fractal]

welcome to the rabbit hole indeed

you got awhile to go

[true hemlock]

[amber fractal]

I've spent several months of my life on this

and boi is it worth not being able to spend much on it

[stark needle]

I'm trying to set up a compute cluster locally

I found out both of my dgx sparks are 13900k level cpus

[true hemlock]

[stark needle]

But yeah i need 1 ultra high ram box

Even if slow

For hashmap

For mapreduce pipelines

Cause spilling to hdd is slow as shit

[true hemlock]

wait try benchmark it

[stark needle]

Yea sure what should i run

[true hemlock]

cinebench 2026 prob

[stark needle]

Does it run headless

[fast pagoda]

geek dentge 6

[true hemlock]

geekbench shit at thread scaling tbh

[fast pagoda]

yeah i know that's why i called it dentge lmao

it do be headless tho

[true hemlock]

also try cinebench r23

[stark needle]

Does cinebench even exist on linux

Afaik it was mac/winslop only

Cause of redshift

[true hemlock]

yeah lol

[fast pagoda]

nerdge6

[true hemlock]

anyways where the 13900k performance info come from

[stark needle]

Geekbench

[fast pagoda]

[true hemlock]

lmao

[stark needle]

If u have a better linux benchmark i can run

[true hemlock]

yeah geekbench is more of short bursts and less of compute bench

hm

not sure

[fast pagoda]

sysbench? ive never tried tho

[stark needle]

I can try passmark ig

Or sysbench

[fast pagoda]

7z has a compression benchmark

[true hemlock]

yeah passmark might work

[fast pagoda]

7z b to run that all core

apparently

[fickle rain]

Can one pirate SPEC2017?

[true hemlock]

hell yeah

[stark needle]

im running this rn

[stark needle]

https://openbenchmarking.org/result/2604186-NE-RESULTSGB04

compression is between M4 Pro and Intel Core Ultra 9 285K, while decompression is close to Ryzen 9 9900X3D

[true hemlock]

@stark needle try passmark

i did passmark on mine

[stark needle]

running

also fyi running inside docker container cause libncurses doesnt exist anymore in ubuntu 24

[amber fractal]

[jagged turtle]

what

[amber fractal]

@ubuntu-user can you confirm this claim

[olive sable]

goodmorning

[amber fractal]

morbing

[olive sable]

[true hemlock]

[olive sable]

im going after my h670 mobo today

[true hemlock]

huh

[olive sable]

and with some luck the case too

[stark needle]

ok its not so powerful, around i9-11900k/12700H, single threaded around i9-14900. Memory idk why it's so low since it should be 256GB/s

@true hemlock

maybe if i run with host ipc and stuff in docker

[true hemlock]

its testing single 64 bit channel

oh nvm

its testing all, just the low ones are single threaded fetch

anyways my cpu

[stark needle]

is this one of those god tier threadrippers

[true hemlock]

no its just 9950x3d

engi sample though

[true hemlock]

this bad boi here

[stark needle]

yea fair enough

i mean the dgx spark is still good especially that its 100% silent

u cant hear shit even if ur directly at the fan

[true hemlock]

my aio is pretty silent

[stark needle]

makes me question whether the fan is broken lol

[true hemlock]

does it also test uh

gpu

[stark needle]

no

not on linux

[true hemlock]

rip

[stark needle]

but we know all its a worse 5070

so prob 5060 ti numbers

[true hemlock]

im still running memory test

ah

[stark needle]

its still at least roughly in my pcs speed for cpu

[true hemlock]

my mem read cached and uncached is insane

ig

[true hemlock]

which cpu

[stark needle]

i7-13700

[true hemlock]

ah

[stark needle]

i lowered to 65w tho

cause it was too loud

[true hemlock]

idk if i can find my 13900 es score

[amber fractal]

laptop

[stark needle]

wait @true hemlock it makes me question

does the cpu only have half ram bandwidth

shouldnt it be 256gb/s

on dgx spark

imagine 256gb is allocated onto both cpu and gpu and summed up

[true hemlock]

found

13900 es with 4x16gb ddr4-3600 cl16

[stark needle]

nice

[true hemlock]

damn that's surprisingly far from the 13700 wtf

[stark needle]

yea

has more cores

afaik

[true hemlock]

it shouldn't be much

[amber fractal]

there's the better RAM latency

[true hemlock]

8p+8e on 13700 i think?

8p+16e on 13900

2e = 1p in terms of performance

so its basically 12 vs 16 p cores

[stark needle]

wait yea my cpu is shit

prob power limit

idk i dont care

[true hemlock]

fair yeah

im surprised i hit higher single thread

[stark needle]

as long as it works

[true hemlock]

despite being on engi sample

[stark needle]

i aint buying 128gb ddr5 again

especially at these prices

[true hemlock]

hm

[stark needle]

maybe if i buy 14900k

since it supports ddr4

[true hemlock]

i mean

yeah

my 13900 es uses liquid metal under ihs though

[stark needle]

wait 14900kf is cheap what

[true hemlock]

so i can pull 270W juice outta the sff cooler

[stark needle]

i thought it was like 800$

[true hemlock]

intel cpus are cheap now

actually

how much?

[stark needle]

489 usd converted, or used for 50 bucks less

[true hemlock]

bruh

that is not cheap

[stark needle]

the USD is just weak as shit

[true hemlock]

to aud?

[stark needle]

383chf is 683 aud

[true hemlock]

[stark needle]

300chf is basically nothing here

[true hemlock]

fair

[stark needle]

i think ill just save up for another dgx spark lmao

[true hemlock]

bruh

why

[stark needle]

more distributed compute nodes

that are quiet asf

[true hemlock]

not a good idea though

overhead be shit

unless if these things support like idk

QSFP+

or something

[stark needle]

my mom turns off every pc in our house that runs hot or is loud

politically this is the best bet

[true hemlock]

tune it

[stark needle]

to run stuff secretly overnight

[true hemlock]

tune it better

[stark needle]

i cant tune a 2x3090 to run at full load 100% quiet

[true hemlock]

13900 es at 0.9w

[stark needle]

yea but idle

[true hemlock]

power limit + clock offset

[stark needle]

i mean full load

[stark needle]

they do

200gbe connectx

[jagged turtle]

right, completed

[true hemlock]

lil fun fact 3090 pulls shit tons of power because the gddr6x in total draw somewhat more than the 3090 chip itself

[true hemlock]

damn wth

hm

then you could try like

doing 3 dgx spark

since they have 2 of those ports

triangle em

[fast pagoda]

they are meant to be clustered

[stark needle]

ill just buy a switch atp

[true hemlock]

rip another few thousands

[stark needle]

it cant remotely be that expensive

as long as its not like 10k

[fast pagoda]

hh

[true hemlock]

don't think switch are worth

when you already have 2 of those ports each

unless if you wanna go beyond 3 of the dgx

[stark needle]

obv i'd get 4

[true hemlock]

[stark needle]

i would need to set up 3d torus topology

[true hemlock]

man

if only i don't have bills to pay

what's good with 15K a month when expenses are almost all of that aswell

[stark needle]

twisted torus setup

works with 4 cleanly

gives 40-70% higher increase in bisection bandwidth

@true hemlock i can just expense it through my dads company so he removes it off his taxes lol

[true hemlock]

lucky ass

[stark needle]

bro makes 15k/month what

deepmind researcher

wait 15k aud/month is not much

i was thinking usd

why is global inflation so shit everywhere😂

[true hemlock]

anyways i wanna 200GbE nic

[amber fractal]

number keeps increasing every time you mention it

[true hemlock]

i think pcie x16 4.0 gets almost fully saturated

yep seems like it

[stark needle]

connectx ones are like 1500 no?

[jagged turtle]

nice!

[stark needle]

at least your company has ci/cd

😭

[true hemlock]

~A$300 for mellanox

[opaque wharf]

New achievement unlocked. All checks have failed

[true hemlock]

through my distributor

[jagged turtle]

I have a job?

[stark needle]

also @true hemlock do u know whether those weird soldered laptop cpus are legit on aliexpress

or do they break

[true hemlock]

which

[stark needle]

just in general

i7/19 13/14th gen

[true hemlock]

modt board?

[jagged turtle]

bro this isn't even an error

[true hemlock]

they're mostly legit.

i have some from erying

[jagged turtle]

why did it only error now

[true hemlock]

14900HX and 13980HX

matx

QS chips though

[opaque wharf]

I am partial to build script failing as an error

[stark needle]

fair enough so they wont just explode/break in 1 day?

[true hemlock]

i suggest buying the erying one but others might be also legit

[jagged turtle]

this is pnpm install failing

[opaque wharf]

We need to categorize build script as optional and mandatory

[true hemlock]

but keep in mind

there's plenty of cons

well pros and cons

[jagged turtle]

what do you MEANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[true hemlock]

pros is that for erying ones they have custom vapor chamber ihs
cons they defaulted to thermal paste for die to ihs, though the board usually comes with liquid metal kit (not the liquid metal itself)

another cons is

its usually B660 chipset

not the high end z series

[stark needle]

i mean i just want for cheap nas

[true hemlock]

hm

like sas storage?

[stark needle]

yeah just storage with ssd promotion and 10gbe

[jagged turtle]

why do I bother retrying

[true hemlock]

none of these modt comes with 10GbE usually

[stark needle]

i found some nas boards but they are all N100 garbage

[true hemlock]

lmao

get Q670/H670 boards imo, if you wanted low power pair it with non K cpu

[true hemlock]

they may or may not have 10GbE depends

but there's plenty that also comes with 4x 2.5GbE

[stark needle]

nah i need 10gbe

dgx spark has 10gbe

current nas i have is shit 1gbe and hdd only with no ssd cache

and i aint paying 1000$ for a synology upgrade

lmfao

[true hemlock]

hard to find the one with 10GbE because they're usually SFP+

you can use nic for that though

that takes x4 pcie

wire it with those m.2 to pcie

[stark needle]

10G base t sfp+ module

[true hemlock]

x4 3.0 pcie should able to support 2 or 3 of those 10GbE easily

[stark needle]

transcievers my beloved

[true hemlock]

but yeah i'd very much just recommend Q670/H670 boards, slap a 10GbE nic on it and they usually come with bunch of SFF8643 ports, each could support 4x SATA/SAS devices

[stark needle]

whats cheapest non shit lga 1700 cpu

prob QS of some sort

[true hemlock]

wouldn't recommend es/qs on these boards they can get wacky sometimes

probably 12500T for lowest power

since that's what most vendors recommended for such boards

[jagged turtle]

what the fuck is the point of this even

if you're just going to limit it to npm

[true hemlock]

i'd go with something like 13600 though

non K

they should be B0 stepping chips

[stark needle]

wait one sec bruh

isnt atp just connecting disk via USB 4 faster

on dgx

[true hemlock]

20gbps?

[stark needle]

i have 3 empty connectors

[true hemlock]

most Q670/H670 should have 20Gbps

though idk about 40Gbps it only exists if the specific board has the mux

[stark needle]

whats q/h vs just b660/z690

seems the same thing but scuffed china version

[true hemlock]

Q670/H670 are nas specific chipset

better than B660 and B760

but still a bit worse than z

[stark needle]

so more ports and stuff?

[true hemlock]

more ports yeah

and they usually support sas by spec

[stark needle]

god if i could i'd just move out and start stacking 2u servers

[true hemlock]

also

H670/Q670 uses DMI x8

same as z series

but B series only do DMI x4

(interconnect between cpu and chipset)

[stark needle]

wait are there rdma setups u can do

from disk directly

ignore cpu entirely

[true hemlock]

maybeeee

anyways

[olive sable]

ok, can confirmt he ax201 fixed my issues with bluetooth

the ax200 that came stock with the mobo just sucks apparently

[opaque wharf]

Just like with your RAM, the electronic just knows that it will be used by Sam and decided to just not work

[olive sable]

its jsut a known hardware issue with this mobo

they used to RMA the mobos for this, but i don't have the patience nor am i in the warranty period

so i fixed it myself

im glad the wifi and bluetooth thingy is removable

[opaque wharf]

I wish more things were designed with repairability in mind

[true hemlock]

how do i realistically fit 4070s + 3090 + dual 40GbE nic in my B850 hmmm

[nocturne olive]

[true hemlock]

glad my B850 can do 8+8 bifurcation

[vague sonnet]

what if instead of fitting more hardware you fit more software in less hardware

[true hemlock]

there's extra 2 m.2

and a x4

[opaque wharf]

So use that

[true hemlock]

problem is

most of the affordable nics are x8 3.0

[opaque wharf]

GPU on M.2

[true hemlock]

converting from x4 4.0 to x8 3.0 need custom asic/chipset switch

[amber fractal]

that it does

[true hemlock]

honestly the x4 slot can have the Titan v still

4070s + 3090 on 8+8

then i'll figure out the nic with m.2

surely

[amber fractal]

surely

[nocturne olive]

doing random PCIe nonsense that boards and cases were not at all designed for

[true hemlock]

i might actually have to get the 90° 16pin connector

i know where to fit 3 gpus

• 1 nic

[rough bloom]

should be fine with a 100Gb ConnectX-6

seems to have PCIe 4

[true hemlock]

seems like it

40GbE in theory only need x5 3.0

worth of bw

[olive sable]

40GbE nic only uses a x4 no?

PCIe 3.0 x8

there must be one that has a 4.0 x4

B850 doesnt have a lot of pcie apparently

for a mobo that costs more than my x570 aorus ultra its kinda a let-down

[true hemlock]

nope

[true hemlock]

yeah b series are shit port wise

but anyways

its possible

i have like 2 free m.2

[olive sable]

what specific mobo is it? i do find some with 3 pcie x16 slots

[true hemlock]

will do bifurcation on the x16

[potent birch]

https://fixupx.com/MMatt14/status/2045385094983209316?s=20

Mᜋtt (@MMatt14)

some guy from Reddit puts a GTX 1080 in the oven and it got resurrected from the dead
︀︀
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FixupX · Apr 18, 2026, 6:13 AM

[true hemlock]

MSI B850-P

[opaque wharf]

Good ol reballing

[olive sable]

oh ye

that one even has 4 pcie slots

[true hemlock]

happens when its soldering crack that essentially temporarily "resolder" it but it usually will be dead in few weeks again

[true hemlock]

but 2 of them are x1

[olive sable]

then whats the point of having the fuill x16 connector?

[true hemlock]

hey i could fit a 10GbE on that though lmao

in the x1 4.0

[true hemlock]

just to support weight

ig

[olive sable]

the top one is gen 5 at least

i doubt you can bifurcate into 2x gen 4 x16 very easily tho

in terms of bandwidth, ther eis enough available, but gettign it will be hard

[true hemlock]

you need switch for that

which i ain't doing

i think 8+8 4.0 is enough for both 4070s and 3090

more than enough even

[opaque wharf]

Well, depending on what you use it for no?

If you only use it every once in a while for LLM inference then yeah, not that bad

But if you run render farm 24/7

[olive sable]

first slot is gen 5 x16
third slot is gen 4 x4
2nd and 4th slot are gen 3 x1
right?

[glass flower]

i should try this... my 1080 also died a few years ago

[true hemlock]

pcie saturation is still hard in literally any case. x8 4.0 is basically x16 3.0
which 3090 and 4070 super can never even fully saturate

[olive sable]

and then
gen 5 x4 to m.2_1
gen 4 x4 to m.2_2
and through the chipset gen 4 x2 to m.2_3

so

[true hemlock]

yeah

[true hemlock]

god i didn't even realize the gen 5 m.2

[olive sable]

only using 1 m.2?

[true hemlock]

that reminds me

idk why people are complaining about gen 5 drive running hot and shit

bro

just

slap a m.2 heatsink with active fan on it???

[olive sable]

dont most drives have heatsink versions available? and most mobos have built-in heatsinks?

[true hemlock]

mobo heatsink are thin

[olive sable]

i odnt know how to get the temp from my 990pro, but im pretty sure it has been running fine

[true hemlock]

you want these mf for gen 5 preferably

[olive sable]

[true hemlock]

but these are

dirt fucking cheap

[olive sable]

thats as chonky as my VRM cooler

[true hemlock]

this one is also thicc and has built in centrifugal fan

[olive sable]

i dont think id have space for that without using a gpu riser.
my case also doesnt have a location for io out with a gpu riser

[true hemlock]

might use this on my main build

cuz why not

[olive sable]

you can probably use that gen5 as your main drive and use the other one for gpu or something ye

[true hemlock]

my drive is gen4

[olive sable]

is it not backwards compatible?

[true hemlock]

honestly i might aswell just put a pcie 5.0 capable gpu on that m.2

[true hemlock]

it is, and i already put it there

[olive sable]

or i guess you can use the gen4 slot and tap of the gen5 m.2 for better gpu bandwidth

ye

[true hemlock]

and i still have 2 spare m.2

yippie

ig

[olive sable]

i put all my spare m.2 into my pc, except for the one that will go in the new opi5 when i buy it

and the old windows drive in the external enclosure too

[amber fractal]

very real m.2 gpu

||idk why there is a x4 but that keeps speaking to me||

[olive sable]

the place that has my mobo is closed till monday

[mighty thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/antman-what-the-hell-happened-here-avengers-gif-18240147

[amber fractal]

toast

[mighty thorn]

it

[olive sable]

toast

[vague sonnet]

Toast

[sage crag]

Toast

[mighty thorn]

I’ve clearly been outgunned

[mighty thorn]

I got excited and thought you meant a that runs in m2 nvme slot

[amber fractal]

Valid protection

proceed

[mighty thorn]

(protection needed)

[fickle rain]

I don't think guarding against page table modifications will help with this attack

Fun fact: Windows implements this on compatible CPUs
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windowsosplatform/protecting-linear-address-translations-with-hypervisor-enforced-paging-translati/4399739

[amber fractal]

Microsoft is committed to continually raising our security bar
I think there is a typo in here, it should be lowering not raising; don't know how they made that typo

[mighty thorn]

It took until 2026 but Opus 4.7 was finally able to read a pdf instead of skimming keywords and pretending to read it

[fickle rain]

AGI coming soon™

[true hemlock]

agi only happen

when gpu i make oviparous

[sage crag]

[true hemlock]

scientif

[sage crag]

pleas ignore him

highly drunk

[stark needle]

your 00:00 is my 01:00

[sage crag]

o

[true hemlock]

your i is

ed

[sage crag]

o

[true hemlock]

oh my god balloon bannan

[olive sable]

bloons tower defense

[sage crag]

[worldly plank]

Why is everyone named Toast?

[olive sable]

toast

[sage crag]

Toast

[leaden crest]

toast

[opaque wharf]

toast

[olive sable]

PRINTER AAAAAA

[glad path]

Prisma-tic-tac ^.^

[sage crag]

not for long

[stark needle]

prisma

[glad path]

what

[stark needle]

my honest reaction to that information

[opaque wharf]

See? Printer are stuff of evil

Actually

I wonder what GCODE Neuro would output

[vague sonnet]

yes but I'm gonna gatekeep it

[stark needle]

chat wtf i just switched my keyboard switches

the keybaord is silent asf now lets actually go

they werent even high end ones, just boguht some off aliexpress for like 30 bucks

[opaque wharf]

The wonders of expiring parent

Patent

Switches used to be patented by Cherry, now that the patent expire, it is free market

[stark needle]

bought these

with 20$ clone keycaps off aliexpress as well

its genuinely so good

[warped narwhal]

Key switches are crazy good, for crazy cheap nowadays

[stark needle]

my mom finally wont scream at me anymore cause my keyboard is so fucking loud at night

[warped narwhal]

I have a set of boba u4t, boba u4, and epomaker zebra, and it cost me less than £150

[stark needle]

oh yea chat

i didnt show my watch in here that i bought

[stark needle]

Check out my cool watch with central tourbillon

i love mechanical watches

my old apple watch could never

[olive sable]

Shadow never beating the rich allegations

[maiden geyser]

bro doesn't have a magnetic kb in 2k26

a feeling like i've said this already

[opaque wharf]

I am the opposite. I daily drive Kailh Jade Box

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy5jm8SJfgo

[stark needle]

in theory i do have a magnetic kb

it just hasnt arrived

[fast pagoda]

root drive was a bit more rotund than i expected

smelt like rocm

var/lib/archbuild

1.6TB

rocm build dir is 75% of the drive use :^)

[opaque wharf]

What did you do bro, lmao

[fast pagoda]

lotta buildin

[opaque sigil]

[glass jetty]

such a small project we have after all

[sage crag]

dependency tree

should weight the size of each node by how many lines of code the repository has

[glass jetty]

[opaque wharf]

Naah, should weight by how burdened the maintainer is

[sage crag]

it will look identical

[glass jetty]

propose to gource

actually there 0 files with >1k lines
tho there is 2 pure logic files with almost 800 lines

[glass jetty]

like

including all rewrites

weight by how many lines changed

some parts of src (left branch) could be bigger than entire right side

only ~35000 lines net positive in total, excluding data files
-# ~26000 my impact

[umbral wigeon]

Claude code kinda expensive

Let stick with gemini cli

[real sierra]

konii

prompt

awa

[fast pagoda]

[olive sable]

hi shiro

[umbral wigeon]

Here my prompt

[olive sable]

awa

[umbral wigeon]

Gemini is dumb so I have to write more prompt to make the game

https://github.com/weenachuangkud/Flappybird_react/blob/main/ARCHITECTURE.md

[olive sable]

i know i cant talk cuz i use gemini too, but why would gemini be the issue with the lack of game?

it outputs only as much as you ask it to

[umbral wigeon]

I've fixed some prompt

Gemini doesn't seems to have creativity

Unlike claude code where it suggests like workflow or something I'm missing

[real sierra]

hiiii!

[umbral wigeon]

But gemini just do it as my .md tells him

[olive sable]

do you expect gemini to write the entire game code flawlessly?

[umbral wigeon]

No.

[olive sable]

ye, thats what it does. gemini does, and only does, what you ask

[glass jetty]

lets not use ai for codding

[olive sable]

shirooo

how has being an admin been?

[umbral wigeon]

Ai isn't memorizing everything lmao

It searches google like us

[olive sable]

ye

gemini is made by google

[glass jetty]

such a joke

gah im out

[umbral wigeon]

Also sorry for my profile being little unhinged

[olive sable]

i feel like im talking to 2 people on opposing sides. ai is a nice tool, shouldnt be fully banned. but its just a tool, the programmer still has a job to do

[umbral wigeon]

This is me(100%)

[olive sable]

oh ye, you're the guy that doxxed yourself in that thai shopping mall

[umbral wigeon]

I don't go outside

Also don't shower

[olive sable]

welp, your github doxxed yourself again i guess

[umbral wigeon]

Also not touching grass

[olive sable]

and those are not things to boast about

go take a shower

[umbral wigeon]

It's 2 am

I don't wanna shower

[olive sable]

😭

we need to find a way so people stop doxxing themselves here

[umbral wigeon]

Anonymous github?

[olive sable]

nobody forces you to use your real name

[umbral wigeon]

I'm a no name guy, my name doesn't even exist on google

(Ig)

[olive sable]

dude i found your facebook in 5 seconds

[umbral wigeon]

Yes cus my github is linked

You can view my facebook, I'm a public person

[olive sable]

brother. your school and location is on your facebook

do people not care about their safety anymore?

[umbral wigeon]

People do

But nobody actually cares

[fickle rain]

No fear

[olive sable]

"But nobody actually cares" state your sources bro

a lot of people care

[umbral wigeon]

Oh yeah? And do they gonna pay ticket just to visit bangkok?

[fickle rain]

https://github.com/SamuelTulach
I mean people put their name/pic into GH profile all the time

[olive sable]

you dont need to visit bangkok to abuse your private info

[umbral wigeon]

So what?

[olive sable]

idk how it is in Thailand, but here, if your home adress is spread online, innocent pranks are people sending pizzas to your house and stuff forcing you to pay for them.
but there have been a lot of cases where houses got raided by the police due to bomb threats and stuff

[maiden geyser]

oh nooooo, poor literal who

[umbral wigeon]

This isn't USA

It's very different laws

[olive sable]

i also dont live in the usa

[vague sonnet]

[umbral wigeon]

You need to knows how to speak my country language to do that, because english is sus

[fickle rain]

Yeah AI is bad for catching cod

Can a LLM even fish?

[vague sonnet]

and it could very easily do that if the programmers took minimal efforts

[olive sable]

in this case its not a known person, but im advocating for people to at least try to keep their personal info somewhat secure

[leaden crest]

interesting integration idea

set up neuro on a fishing boat with motorized poles

[fickle rain]

FishMCP

Revolutionalizing fishing with agentic AI

Actually I think MCP is out of vogue these days innit

[leaden crest]

is it really

what do they use instead then

[fickle rain]

Fuck if I know, I think the Hackernews “”people”” like just giving LLM a CLI and having them figure it out

[fast pagoda]

Most agents just give Garry tan a ring and ask him for stuff and he does it

[umbral wigeon]

I can say these info is not always danger.
Some random chinese hacker tryna attack me from nowhere in some big discord server, by letting everyone verify in server to infect thosuands of users including me, hjiacking sessions but I just stopped it and leave the server

[vague sonnet]

well you failed at keeping your personal info safe, I know your real name is ||Banana Toast||

[umbral wigeon]

Discord hacking is kinda getting out of hands

[maiden geyser]

there is no point in that when the info is already chived

[umbral wigeon]

Yk you can easily get hacked even from trusted big server, by just verify

[olive sable]

the point is to reduce the chance of the info being misused

[leaden crest]

well even if the info’s out there if you scrub it now then it’ll at least take effort to find it

[umbral wigeon]

I want to Ai doom posting bro

[maiden geyser]

hello shiro

[olive sable]

hi shiro

[real sierra]

hi

dont mind me

just backreading this slightly concerning conversation

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

i think the 1st thing you should do when doxxed is not get doxxed

but if that bridge is already burnt

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

then the 2nd thing you should do is not tell anyone about the dox, ever

[willow hinge]

3rd thing is to gas light

[real sierra]

even if the info is out there, it's only available to the people who know it's out there

so don't go around telling people you got doxxed

[olive sable]

true

[real sierra]

and if you're a kind individual, don't go around telling people someone else got doxxed

[olive sable]

the convo started cuz one of the chatters here shared their github with their facebook and such linked

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

so its not like they got doxxed by someone else, they're freely sharing it

[real sierra]

i see

[glad path]

dm maybe

at least

[real sierra]

well if it's freely and intentionally shared

[vague sonnet]

hi I got doxxed once
what happens now that I mentioned it?

[real sierra]

now i trawl the internet and find your address so i can send you free merch

[vague sonnet]

POG

I will save you the effort

[olive sable]

the problem is people knowing the info is out there, and if they have a specific agenda against you, they can misuse it

[maiden geyser]

nothing until you piss someone off enough to make them go out of their way to do something

[real sierra]

even if you don't have enemies now, you could someday

[vague sonnet]

[real sierra]

don't shoot your future self in the foot

[olive sable]

for most people, their info being public probably wont matter, but you dont know yet if you're one of the people where it will be

[leaden crest]

especially if your future self will suffer on their birthday

[real sierra]

i have a very hard line on what i publicize here

[vague sonnet]

at a point of no return
all I can do is train an AI to kill anyone that threatens me

[real sierra]

because my position absolutely invites more attention than is safe

[olive sable]

true

[sage crag]

@real sierra

[real sierra]

awa

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

[olive sable]

awa

[vague sonnet]

actually thought that's in geneva conventions but it got rejected

[sage crag]

@real sierra

[real sierra]

[real sierra]

📣 bweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[sage crag]

did you see what i said about the vps

i managed to cancel it

[real sierra]

er

yea

[olive sable]

i asked earlier but you prob didnt see. how has being an admin been?

[real sierra]

fumoquest host

[fiery anchor]

At this point, everything that isn't yellow and named Toast grabs attention

[sage crag]

i can no longer doxx you

[real sierra]

not much has changed

[sage crag]

Toast

[olive sable]

oh ye, whats up with fumoquest?

[real sierra]

need time and motivation

networking bugs made me sad

[maiden geyser]

another orange namefriend vvin

[olive sable]

bwaaa

networking bugs

[sage crag]

shiro why arent you yellow toast

[real sierra]

poorly documented networking library creating poorly understood issues

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

try all reasonable debugging steps

not work

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

creates the big bwaa

and then exams

[leaden crest]

https://tenor.com/view/strawberry-cheesecake-french-toast-french-toast-breakfast-dessert-gif-15691232373006720338

[olive sable]

happy birthday shiro

i cant remember if i said it on your actual birthday

i think i did

[sage crag]

no bananas

bad toast

[real sierra]

because im not yellow flavoured or toast coloured

[sage crag]

[vague sonnet]

you're hungry for attention then I assume?

[sage crag]

banana is a colour and a flavour

[leaden crest]

https://tenor.com/view/أفكار-فطور-موز-breakfast-in-line-with-tima-gif-14073049

[sage crag]

toast is also a colour and a flavour

[vague sonnet]

and a way of life

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

banana is a fruit, and i am a banana, which makes me a fruit

[fiery anchor]

as someone who writes about once a week. nah.

[sage crag]

you were already

[olive sable]

no, before i was considered a vegetable

cuz

[sage crag]

like a tomato

[olive sable]