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fast pagoda
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cant play without my custom t-800 castbar weakaura

proven merlin
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Somehow those were always either the best or worst players

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No inbetween

fast pagoda
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the peak of my raiding life getting cutting edge was the peak of my weakaura slop spam

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so maybe that was the secret

kind nimbus
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Nice terminator

proven merlin
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Guys, please pray that my car battery still works, its been cookin cuz it wouldn't start after sitting for uhhhhh months™ sooo..

fast pagoda
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boil it a few hours n'she'll come around

fast pagoda
nocturne olive
proven merlin
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Its just a.. 40? Ah one

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Smol 1.2L engine

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But it just went click and all lights go off.. gonna try in a minute

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If.. i can get the damn battery installed.

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Fuel in it is likely also stale soo.. yay

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(yes yes, very programming.. its a honda, so a laptop may be plugged in at some point)

fast pagoda
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technical talk channel not just programming

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arguably car shit goes from kinda technical to very technical

vague sonnet
fast pagoda
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i cant remember what your exact gripes with wayland were but if i recall correctly nearly all are resolved in the last 12 months and it was mainly severe pain around remote video and audio piping + the whole headless rdp issue where you had to confirm connections on the target or something

nocturne olive
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neuroNope If it can't Neurolings it's a failed standard

fast pagoda
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remote audio is almost there (tm) there's an open issue that hasnt quite been shoved through to allow OpenPipeWireRemote() method via org.freedesktop.portal.Audio d-bus

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so that's the main holdout still

fast pagoda
nocturne olive
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neuroNope It not support all features everywhere

rough bloom
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the wl_shimeji in question

fast pagoda
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lol there's this giant box around them kek

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works tho

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id imagine this is some weird transparency issue that is fixable but it is funny to look at like this

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text is visible behind

rough bloom
olive sable
fast pagoda
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kwin window support pog

reef ingot
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Yo

olive sable
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Yo

reef ingot
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Do you know anything about game dev?

fast pagoda
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what's a game

opaque sigil
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can you eat that

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sounds yummy

reef ingot
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💀

vague sonnet
reef ingot
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It's edible

nocturne olive
fast pagoda
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there is transparency it's just set wrong currently

reef ingot
fast pagoda
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holy shit im haxxing

reef ingot
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I am making a game engine which is a better thing to be already in the engine already made

vague sonnet
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repeat in english

rough bloom
sage crag
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wayland
electron
windows
kotlin
linux mint
neurosynth

reef ingot
sage crag
olive sable
vague sonnet
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if I can't do something in unity and need a custom engine
then only rendering is a pain in the ass to implement

sage crag
vague sonnet
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input is chill

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sage crag
olive sable
vague sonnet
olive sable
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Use a dictionary to do the mapping

sage crag
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mental illness

vague sonnet
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dictionary + library to handle it
and it is as simple as checking with enums

olive sable
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Dont need a library to handle it. Its built in to glfw or sdl

reef ingot
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This is how the engine looks like rn it's 9 days old

vague sonnet
olive sable
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Its built into the window library, you dont need a library for input

vague sonnet
vague sonnet
# reef ingot This is how the engine looks like rn it's 9 days old

my take on custom engines is
you either make it as a hobby project
or to handle something that generic engines can't do well
because from a game dev's perspective it's almost always just better to use an existing matured engine with a big community and a lot of resources

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last I tried to make my own it was to build it around noita-style pixel simulation
but my patience died when I clashed with opengl lol

reef ingot
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Its not runing on esp32 yet like it will in few weeks

vague sonnet
olive sable
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I disagreed with needing one specifically for input

reef ingot
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There is two toast

rough bloom
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two mhm

reef ingot
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3!!!

vague sonnet
stray dragon
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there's a few more than 3

fast pagoda
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hooray

olive sable
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There's like 10

olive sable
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Anyways, what was the original question even

fast pagoda
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works with windows

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shimeji-wl declares blur on its entire surface which i feel is probably unintended

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that was 90% of the setup

nocturne olive
fast pagoda
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kde

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idk about anything else

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i dont have another one to tesk

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tesk

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test

nocturne olive
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Well of course
They specifically target KDE and then on other things it borks

opaque sigil
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they use the wl core

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hyprland doesn't work as per the GitHub

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neither does gamescope

fast pagoda
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it should theoretically work on other environments but what he said

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the blur thing i think is also the issue i was having with shijima-qt

opaque sigil
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Additionally, wl_shimeji will never support compositors that do not implement the wlr-layer-shell protocol, as it is a core part of wl_shimeji's implementation, so no Mutter for now
looks like gnome is out too

reef ingot
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It's funny to see toast toast and toast is typeing

opaque sigil
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how do you think i feel, this is so irritating neuroCry

kind nimbus
fast pagoda
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yep, shijima-qt spawned this evil while wl_shimeji spawned the neuro

rough bloom
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Hyprland nearly works but that has that bug causing stretchy textures
vaxry seems to think it's a feature so it's not getting fixed

reef ingot
rough bloom
reef ingot
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There is a lot of fox

fast pagoda
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or fooxy

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honestly

rough bloom
fast pagoda
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isnt cinnawayland in like

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pre-alpha where it's a twinkle in john wayland's eye

reef ingot
nocturne olive
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NeuroShrug Only Wayland I have

reef ingot
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there's technically nothing stopping you from just installing kde

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and then using it

fast pagoda
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live nwero reaction

nocturne olive
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neuroNope Me needs Xorg for development

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And KDE soon no Xorg

opaque sigil
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reminds me i should delete kwin-x11

fast pagoda
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what are you developing that requires xorg except perhaps some sort of xorg based shrine to the x god

nocturne olive
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neuroHUH App that needs to be able to move around windows spawned from other processes

rough bloom
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I should

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fix my WoL

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it randomly broke some time in the past few months

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haven't investigated yet but immediately assigning blame to Realtek regardless

kind fable
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Xfce on top Xfce ❤️

nocturne olive
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Cinnamon

olive sable
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Is the discord mobile app bugged again?

nocturne olive
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NeuroShrug Would not be surprised

kind fable
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it's a heart?

kind fable
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there's nothing wrong ?

opaque wharf
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All of my hardwork and it turns out a dude in china has done the same work as me neuroCry

fast pagoda
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compositors can do this just fine on wayland tho

nocturne olive
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yes Wayland incompatible so me needs Xorg

kind fable
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it's just a standard unicode heart that discord display as a twemoji heart

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like it looks normal to me

olive sable
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Doesnt show up in screenrecording so idk. Weird graphical glitch

kind fable
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very weird

nocturne olive
fast pagoda
nocturne olive
fast pagoda
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actually, ext-zones just got added as well

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which is agnostic to compositor

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i am struggling to find the specific usecase that requires unconditional control of the position of all on-screen windows at any time without regard to the process that owns the window that isn't a massive security HOLY just asking to explode in some way

nocturne olive
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neuroConfused Wayland weird

fast pagoda
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wayland do be weird

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shoots itself in the foot in a lot of ways

nocturne olive
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Meanwhile literally every other OS and windowing system

fast pagoda
nocturne olive
fast pagoda
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x11 gives you a ton of freedom yes but that's for better or worse, usually worse

opaque sigil
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android does give you control over this no? just have to explicitly allow and it feels like it keeps nagging you every day about it

fast pagoda
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wayland doesnt have to be as restrictive as it is, on the same thread of inquiry

fast pagoda
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not for a random app

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WindowManagerService owns everything

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you might be able to do some shenanigans with accessibility services

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you can also draw windows over others i believe but you cant just move another application's window

opaque sigil
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that might be what i mixed it up with

fast pagoda
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if you're rooted things probably change if you want to open up the same security spookiness

olive sable
fast pagoda
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x11 though i mean you can do literally wahtever to whatever else especially if you can get a sudo goin

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if you can xinput test on the id of your keyboard you can read every keystroke everywhere

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for any window with no checks whatsoever as long as you wish

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fast pagoda
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XGetImage lemme just get a nice screenshot of that banking page you have open or maybe your bitwarden vault that's open

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XTest imma just fake any input anywhere

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anything on clipboard is universally just chilling waiting to be yoinked by anything that can execute on the system

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most of this is not allowed on windows via uipi (and a other things fyi, MIC, uac blah blah)

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macos blocks it with transparency/consent/control

opaque sigil
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a bit annoying sometimes how the wl clipboard works in that it goes poof when app quits but thankfully there's a workaround FOCUS

fast pagoda
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kde must have the workaround because that doesnt happen to me

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ootb

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also has the same security oopsies im sure

opaque sigil
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the clipboard manager usually takes care of it

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doesn't work when the app directly uses the clipboard though

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like in the case of codesnap

fast pagoda
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they found my top bar

olive sable
opaque wharf
fast pagoda
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codesnap

opaque wharf
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It's baseline

fast pagoda
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the vscode extension?

opaque sigil
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cli

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but yeah

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i tried making it work in zed

fast pagoda
opaque sigil
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a bit of a pain

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#!/usr/bin/env bash

printf '%s' "$ZED_SELECTED_TEXT" | codesnap -c \
    -o clipboard \
    --file-path "$ZED_FILE" \
    --has-line-number \
    --start-line-number "$ZED_ROW"

this works though, just need to invoke as task FOCUS

fast pagoda
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ooh two more fun ones, any X client can just XKillClient to any other x client without permission

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XWarpPointer moves your cursor wherever, also no permission

fast pagoda
opaque sigil
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often enough

fast pagoda
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fair enough

opaque sigil
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i gave up and just use the vscode extension though

fast pagoda
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i used codesnap like one(1) time and was like but why do i need that tho and that was the end

glass flower
opaque wharf
opaque sigil
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it's nice for mobile

fast pagoda
glass flower
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if i would actually use it i would 100% do it YES

opaque sigil
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the zed version is kind of unreliable, idk why i don't feel like debugging that mess any more

fast pagoda
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every time i use zed i end up in this weird no-addon zen state

opaque sigil
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i like zed

fast pagoda
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beyond like, a theme

opaque sigil
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is comfy

glass flower
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everytime i try to use zed i just am like " Erk i don't want to port all my vim keybinds"

fast pagoda
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god im so glad i am the opposite

vague sonnet
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vim is meant to be closed

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:q!

glass flower
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i just do <space>q to close vim

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well... that i do it is a lie. its because astronvim has it like that LULE

fast pagoda
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although it would be fun to be an 31337 vim haxxer for a day and just fly around some weird shit like helix or something for ffunzies

olive sable
fast pagoda
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i like lunarvim in a visual sense, with all the stupid effects maxxed out

glass flower
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NeuroSip i just like nvim. it does everything i want and its really easy to customize

rough bloom
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Helix mentioned neuroPogHD

fast pagoda
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i tried to use helix i really did (5 seconds)

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im just not built for modal text editing

glass flower
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you just never tried it properly

fast pagoda
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ive done the tutorial

glass flower
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the first 2-4 weeks are a pain to do anything. then it gets a bit faster

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and after a few months you just get used to it

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KEKW i haven't done the vim tutorial yet at all

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and i've been using it for like 8 months now

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i feel like the best way to learn something is to just throw yourself into it and use it. and then when you need a specific action like find a specific string or replace something across the whole file. you just look it up. That way you aren't just remembering stuff, you actually need it and its easier for your brain to remember the need than the action

fast pagoda
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but what do i accomplish with it that i cant already do with ibm style (later windows style) control+arrows etc etc

glass flower
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NeuroSip its just faster

kind nimbus
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Ah filtered I'm late for karaoke

vague sonnet
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vim fans need to be gifted mice for bday
they just keep insisting on going keyboard-only
so uncivilised

fast pagoda
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how so, ctrl+H = find+ replace

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idk how that's any slower than the vim style

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not that the vim style is not fast

olive sable
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Didcord scammer asking for my country and age AINTNOWAY

fast pagoda
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it just seems similar speed, better if you're more used to one or the other

glass flower
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well find and replace was just a example. mhm its mostly just about the concept that everything is at your finger tips

fast pagoda
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umm maybe %

glass flower
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what about jumping to matching things? like matching {[( etc

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(i need to learn this more KEKW )

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i personally also just like the multiple modes concept.

fast pagoda
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yeah i suppose that kinda doesn't exist but also just search the thing and go to it

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i suppose if you're trying to mash these all together into a single command that you compose

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but i am not that galaxy brain that i ever even want to do it

glass flower
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LULE i mean.. vim motions is just a way to move about and most editors support some version of it.

fast pagoda
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and modal just confuses and infuriates me because the same combination of keys suddenly do different things

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due to my pea brain i guess

glass flower
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LUL that is exactly why i like it. i can have the same keybind do different things in different modes

fast pagoda
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please no

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ill find another key

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i have like 100+ of them

glass flower
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NeuroSip it really isn't that difficult. you just get used to it

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besides 99% of the time its just between 2 modes. visual and normal. you don't really do insert mode keybinds

fast pagoda
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but then it just comes back to for what purpose do i want to rewire my entire input paradigm (and break muscle memory with non-vim keybinding using things, of which there are many, especially if dualbooting windows), suffer pain doing so for likely at least a few weeks, and then end up in basically the same place

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using a cool editor is a valid reason

glass flower
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Shrugeg i feel faster writing stuff. and moving about. instead of having to use the mouse.
i literally don't touch my mouse at all during coding anymore

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also its more comfortable

fast pagoda
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i havent found a reason to touch a mouse in most any editor unless there's some addon i need to interact with either shrug i used to before i got more used to the ibmland version of the same bindings

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i feel like the time to get used to it would've been then but the thing is that shares a lot of commonality with just basic UI and terminal usage in that environment which is where i learned to do anything related

glass flower
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shrug i mean its mostly just about learning your editor. if you learned the ins and outs of your editor it doesn't really matter if its vim or vscode or whatever. its just about trying to become better accustomed to an editor

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and nvim allows me to get good at something and also change things i don't like in ways vscode doesn't allow me

fast pagoda
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agree on that definitely

opaque sigil
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who needs an editor when you can voice command an llm SMH

fast pagoda
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TRUE github pilled

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i pace the room while i dictate my big ideas

glass flower
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for example i tried for a few weeks to get rid of a file-explorer and switched to yazi as my primary explorer. but then i switched to snacks's file-explorer. and now i'm back with neo-tree.
in vscode i would have never had the option to experiment even

fast pagoda
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all of my source files end in dictated but not read, afunyun

fast pagoda
glass flower
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well but keybinds are part of it

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as its the way you control the file manipulation

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and that is part of the editor shrug

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its all just one thing in the end. optimizing your workflow

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fast pagoda
glass flower
fast pagoda
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technically i think emacs is ultimately more customizable than even neovim

opaque sigil
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well yeah, neovim is an editor duh

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not an operating system

fast pagoda
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because it's basically just a lisp thing that can edit text

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by accident

glass flower
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automatic tiered memory management it seems

fast pagoda
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looks like a memory budget allocation thing

opaque sigil
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idk if the ssd tier goes through gpudirect storage, have to look kannainspect

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big if true

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ooooh

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they do have a gds backend

fast pagoda
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the way it's described looks like it's basically rmm

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oh it quite literally is

opaque sigil
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i don't think rmm supports using disk?

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could be wrong

fast pagoda
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can cudf

opaque sigil
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i need something to ingest gigantic dna sequences so could be useful FOCUS

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idk never used cudf

fast pagoda
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oh it can via Dask

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but also is limited

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so that's i guess what it's cuCascade is literally for

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neat

glass jetty
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i cant even way who are typing

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that is really fun

opaque sigil
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okay nvm cuCascade is specifically for cuDF

fast pagoda
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what the helly

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custom linux emacs POGGA

glass jetty
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it is aur neuroCatUuh

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last time i used yay was long time ago

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tbh it is time to update system

fast pagoda
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i see nothing wrong with that, look at pkgbuild it's just cloning and building a repo end of the day if it's not already a bin

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OR

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if unlucky

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you could be a poor (dumb) sap downloading the wrong google-chrome-legit-cracked-exe from the aur and get pwned

glass jetty
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4 (1.2)gb with my vpn..
Total Download Size: 1206.61 MiB
Total Installed Size: 4381.68 MiB
Net Upgrade Size: 131.99 MiB

fast pagoda
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this is one day for me lmfao

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you made me curious

opaque sigil
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that's just one cuda sdk update

glass jetty
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glad i not have any cuda installed on my laptop

fast pagoda
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you are a wizard harry

opaque sigil
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oh is it actually om

fast pagoda
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i dont even have an nvidia card man

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jensen haunting me

opaque sigil
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me when i get to download the sdk on my ultrabook because the only thing i care about is headers

fast pagoda
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i have to downloa cuda to then translate it to hip usually

glass jetty
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just code withut lsp neuroHypers

kind nimbus
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Just code with evilEggs

fast pagoda
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classic man

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kind nimbus
fast pagoda
opaque sigil
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thankfully nvidia's download servers are really good at least

opaque sigil
fast pagoda
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And that

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requires full cuda

opaque sigil
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i definitely have never done that

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since when does hipify depend on cuda though

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it's just slightly more advanced search and replace

fast pagoda
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and even stuff that doesnt actually use hipify (it's native HIP) like ggml-cuda which has a valid hip source tree maintained on its own, you pull in any dependencies which obviously happens pretty much always and those themselves will pull in cuda as part of their build path, even if they dont need it half the time

fast pagoda
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which needs real cuda headers

opaque sigil
fast pagoda
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otherwise it cant resolve cuda-runtime.h, cuBLAS, cuDNN, whatever cuPoop you need to build

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there's a hipify-perl which i have no fucking idea waht that does

opaque sigil
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i'm confused, you shouldn't have to build any cuda code

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hipify-clang just spits out a hip file that you would then compile using hip libraries

fast pagoda
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that part needs cuda to exist

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hipify-clang sends ur cuda oriented source through libtooling and builds a cuda source tree and then translates all cuda api calls/types/whatever into hip

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from amd:

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hipify-clang is a Clang-based tool for translating NVIDIA CUDA sources into HIP sources.

It translates CUDA source into an Abstract Syntax Tree (AST), which is traversed by transformation matchers. After applying all the matchers, the output HIP source is produced.

Advantages:

hipify-clang is a translator. It parses complex constructs successfully or reports an error.

It supports Clang options such as -I, -D, and –cuda-path.

The support for new CUDA versions is seamless, as the Clang front-end is statically linked into hipify-clang and does all the syntactical parsing of a CUDA source to HIPIFY.

It is very well supported as a compiler extension.

Disadvantages:

You must ensure that the input CUDA code is correct as incorrect code can’t be translated to HIP.

You must install CUDA, and in case of multiple installations specify the needed version using --cuda-path option.

You must provide all the includes and defines to successfully translate the code.

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fast pagoda
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so hipify-clang therefore requires CUDA in the version you need, and then the appropriate llvm+clang to build it

opaque sigil
fast pagoda
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i wont use cuda, imma use rocm, fucc cuda

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open rocm

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look inside

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it's cuda

glass jetty
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seems like vpn i wrote broke for the first time xD

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i will rewrite this shit one day

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idk what will happen first - me leaving this country or me rewriting vpn to proper api and structure

fast pagoda
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the 2nd one seems much harder

glass jetty
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anyway, try pacman -Syu second time

kind nimbus
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speakatron lmao

fast pagoda
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i googled that and found a guy on twitter talking about metal

glass jetty
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glad pacman does not discard what it already downloaded NeuroClueless

fast pagoda
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yeah, me too

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oh

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tbf 60 gigs of this is huggingface and its accursed desire to hold on to everything it has ever touched

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uv and paru together are another 60 kekw

fast pagoda
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does any package manager not

kind nimbus
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Mh

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Not sure

fast pagoda
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never heard of that one

kind nimbus
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Lol

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Mh = Sound you make when thinking

fast pagoda
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anime protagonist

kind nimbus
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Idk if that is a German thing or not lmao

fast pagoda
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i write ope all the time

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which is a northern michigan//maybe more broad than that but definitely michigan expression

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kinda like a combo of "oh" and "oops"

kind nimbus
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Lol never heard that before

fast pagoda
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it is apparently related too all the norwegian immigration to the area but idk how

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unless there's a similar phrase in norwegian

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in speech it probably gets heard as "oh"

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to most

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if you try to go thru the same doorway or something as a michigan person you'll hear an ope immediately

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if you ever hear it irl, freak them out by pointing at your hand and asking where in michigan they're from

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bonus challenge: if they sound canadian, correctly call them out as a yooper

tawdry bone
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whats going on here

fast pagoda
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normal day at anthropic

stark needle
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Clawd ai

fast pagoda
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same incident that lead to me having to run lspci manually over two whole times earlier

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like a caveman

opaque sigil
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the horror

fast pagoda
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i remember it like it was yesterday

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it was today, but i have brain damage

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not even rich people mode saved me

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183416661174888888333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333744085277777777777777777777777777777777777

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well the enter key is pretty close to the backspace

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was vacuuming out my numberpad because i was holding a monster and for some reason decided that physically seeing the liquid would tell me if it was in fact a recently opened one or if i had left it on the desk for 12 hours and needed to get rid of it

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and that action poured 2 drops of it onto my num pad

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and instead of cleaning that normally, i decided to vacuum it

glass flower
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tink i got a question. does anyone here have a github copilot subscription? i was wondering if its better than using a local model. since 10$ a month is fairly cheap if its really good.
i only use autocomplete generally but i felt like sometimes my llm is more than just stupid KEKW

patent shard
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I accidently ran a vram heavy thing while another vram heavy thing was running neuro7
I also clicked stop right away and I think I crashed the driver

fast pagoda
warped narwhal
proven merlin
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copilot models tend to have a lower context window tho

proven merlin
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Cuz like, i am, i never do "Mh"- only do "Hmm" or "Mhm" (although latter is more of a acknowledgement)

kind fable
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tho i don't vibecode

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i barely use it either as smarter autocompletion

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or as search in codebases i don't know

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i basically just use it to learn more

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i find Gemini 3.1 Pro to be the best model i can access

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and with the student plan there's honestly no limit if you're not doing the thing where you spin thousand agents in the background

kind nimbus
warped narwhal
kind fable
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also the context window of Gemini 3.1 Pro is 128k and it's honestly massive even when i force it to ingest the whole codebase i'm working on it's like 35% full so it's fine

kind nimbus
warped narwhal
glass flower
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currently using minuet-ai.nvim for autocomplete and llama.nvim for instruction based editing. and VectorCode to vectorise for more context.
but if i used copilot i could use sidekick.nvim to combine all these into a single copilot lsp basically

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copilot was really ahead when i was in the beta for it. but after a few months when it was paid i switched to supermaven. then that got bought and i just stopped using paid llm's since then. after that i only used local AI's. currently using qwen 3.5-9b for everything

fickle rain
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For smart autocomplete I use whatever Zed/VS2026 have for free

glass flower
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mhm zed has zeta. and vs2026 is copilot

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(i could even use zeta technically since its open weight. but idk)

proven merlin
sick owl
#

Gemma 4 26BA4B is so good for local use its unreal chat

#

Its just smart enough for all the tasks you'd want from an on-device model, just fast enough to feel more responsive than cloud services, just small enough to fit on most PCs

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I've been using it for OCR, web search and translation and its an absolute beast

warped narwhal
#

does it fit in 8gb of vram?

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cause if so I may put it on my server that has a spare gpu in it

glass flower
#

its a moe so technically yes

sick owl
#

Just use llama.cpp and tune --n-cpu-moe incrementing by one till you no longer see the --fit message saying it needs to free up memory

warped narwhal
#

ah, that would be a problem cause it's on a chipset pcie3x4 slot

sick owl
#

You might be pleasantly surprised

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Not a bright model but its pretty damn good for multimodal understanding, has native audio input depending on your inference engine and does web search pretty nicely

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Also has very low hallucination rates on questions it gets wrong

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You should be able to fit it at Q6_K with like 8k context

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If that's too big try Qwen 3.5 4B

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Its less stable (gets into loops sometimes) but arguably as smart if not smarter and smaller

glass flower
#

scrajj why is it redownloading gemma4 for me... so weird. has there been an update in the past week?

fast pagoda
# sick owl In that case try Gemma 4 E4B

im testing gemma4 31b_q6 rn vs gemini 3.1 (for the lulz) on a small python task (refactor)
probably a very easy test to not totally fail at for any decent model but mainly trying to get a feel for how it'd do on something pretty trivial/day to day, myself and also claude as a judge, ill have results at some point but i mainly mention that for context on this making me laugh w/ claude's last review of the changes done by gemini

fast pagoda
#

rebuild

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redownload

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lol the diff is the entire file except one line ok gemma

sick owl
#

Rebuild llama.cpp or download the latest binaries if you haven't

glass flower
#

tink now i wonder if it supports FIM out of the box or if i need to do stuff to make it work..

fast pagoda
#

<|fim_suffix|>

glass flower
#

sitti building llama currently. i did just test it a bit and it seems to work with the qwen style fim things

fast pagoda
#

it supports fill in the middle for i think any model that does it

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llama.cpp that is

glass flower
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mhm but the plugin im using is not actually hitting the /infill endpoint

fast pagoda
#

ope

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fork llama.cpp mhm

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it's the only way

glass flower
#

i would just need to fork the ai plugin in nvim

fast pagoda
#

no no, you must write own cuda kernel now

#

ouchie

glass flower
#

mhm nah, i need yo build my own gpu obviously

fast pagoda
#

invent your own boolean algebra

opaque wharf
#

"convert to rocm, make no mistake"

fast pagoda
#

tried that

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worked

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only took 48 hours and like $600 in credit

opaque wharf
#

Now the next logical step is to optimize it

fast pagoda
#

honestly i have a claude code skill specifically dedicated to fixing venvs etc w/ rocm when it explodes

opaque wharf
#

The fact that even with venv it can still explode is a testament to python package management quality

fast pagoda
#

it's always the same shit and the same-ish fix it's just "find whichever dependency updated and sniped this environment with suddenly a full cuda runtime"

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you wouldn't believe the amount of ways cuda can somehow appear in a venv

opaque wharf
#

At some point we'll see docker-esque env for python

fiery canopy
#

python with cuda is a fun one

fast pagoda
#

ppython with cuda but you dont want cuda at all

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except in the small amount you need to hipify

opaque wharf
#

"Duck this package management thing, we'll ship the machine"

fast pagoda
#

so a little sprinkle of cuda BUT ONLY ON OCCASION

fiery canopy
#

thats the fun one

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sometimes i just say fuck it , its slow as shit but its better to use CPU then my enviornment be blown up tbf

fast pagoda
#

if you run the main .py by accident with the cuda there the entire thing detonates into a supernova

fiery canopy
#

But some things do require that lil sprinkle

fast pagoda
#

because as soon as any of these things sniff cuda theyre like "OH YEAH NVIDIA?? HEY THIS ENVIRONMENT LOOKS MISCONFIGURED TO USE THIS NVIDIA GPU IVE NOT CHECKED TO SEE EXISTS, TIME TO FIX IT"

fiery canopy
#

gg

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tbf I have a nvidia gpu with cuda drivers so it only half nukes, the only issue is cas I have a 50 series card I have to use a special compiled version or it nukes

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so

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I have a similar issues

fast pagoda
#

i cant even use prebuilt rocm wheels for anything because either amd REALLY sucks about their build target with rdna4 nightlies, or (possibly and) something about my machine is just weird & doesnt like them

fiery canopy
#

ye

fast pagoda
#

fuckin python

fiery canopy
#

This makes me wanna just go write a docker -like thing in go or something for python

#

idk how hard it would be but surely not too bad

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ehh fuck it may aswell ,

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Would be handy to have either way

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lol

fast pagoda
#

the only time docker has actually been actually blessed in my eyes was when docker pull vllm/vllm-openai-rocm:latest just worked

fiery canopy
#

ye

#

I was more thinking something to manage the enviornment and anti nuke it to some degree

fast pagoda
#

first time a docker image has ever worked without problems for me i think ever

fiery canopy
#

similar to nodes package.json or smthin

#

tbf I think all it would be would be using exsisting tooling and having a simple thing to manage it

#

EHh I will have a lil look if its doable ill write it and throw it on codeberg

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or mshtin

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or github probs both

#

tbf

warped narwhal
#

what docker things do you run that don't work ootb

#

that's kinda the whole point of docker

fast pagoda
#

it's always been cuda/pytorch/rocm related stuff

#

which is why it just explodes

warped narwhal
#

to be fair

#

I don't think that's a docker issue

#

I think that's an "AI tooling is a clusterfuck" issue

fast pagoda
#

beyond that i just dont wanna run your lil 200mb binary in a whole ass docker container that pulls and hosts a full fat ubuntu with gui

fiery canopy
#

fe

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I have decided to actually write that thing if it works ig that will be useful to you

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lol

fast pagoda
#

let me know on results o7_salute_respect

fiery canopy
#

Would be helpful for alot of people I would imagine and im board

#

lol

fast pagoda
#

the closest ive come to that is basically pinning a ton of shit in the uv.lock

fiery canopy
#

tbf the main thing is ensuring dependencys dont fuck themselves

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and ensuring it runs properly

fast pagoda
#

best thing to do is entirely avoid any upgrades to packages unless absolutely sure

fiery canopy
#

What ima do is write this in Go since it should be a half decent language for this, just basically make npm for python but with a spice of docker

#

cas

#

U can just preety much define

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fully

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what you want

#

and just be able to run it

#

and relying on nothing being changed in that config file, your enviornment will be managed and not touched by anything unless u tell it to

#

I cant type but I think u get what I mean

fast pagoda
#

this reads like a pitch for venvs ngl and specifically uv in general hehe

fiery canopy
#

Tbf I am just writing this cas it will end up benefiting me

#

lol

#

aswell

#

and also is useful

silent cloak
#

What makes go useful

fast pagoda
#

if it works better than the venv that kinda sorta works if you dont poke it with a stick then what can i say except godspeed

silent cloak
#

Real question

fast pagoda
#

go fast

fiery canopy
#

ye

fast pagoda
#

in this context idk

silent cloak
#

Is it low level?

fiery canopy
#

Higher level but C++ backend

#

so its a wierd mix

#

Idk how to explain it ngl

silent cloak
#

Is it JIT

fast pagoda
#

it's compiled

fiery canopy
#

ye

#

and very memory effecient + lighteweight

silent cloak
#

So it compiles to C++ like IL2CPP?

fiery canopy
#

It can just compile itself if u pass flags

silent cloak
#

Interesting

fiery canopy
#

but I beleive default behavior is to C++ but dont quote me I might be wrong

fast pagoda
#

it compiles straight to assembly

silent cloak
#

Honestly i wish more languages implemented that

#

I dont like JIT as much as I like C#

#

Thats why i usually use IL2CPP when making unity games

fast pagoda
#

i think go is mostly known for doing well in backend type work because it is very good with concurrency

silent cloak
#

Might have to look into it

fiery canopy
#

ye

silent cloak
#

Ive been absorbing Zig lately

fiery canopy
#

I mainly use it for the backend of one of my apps

#

Its also very good for cli stuff

#

as how lightweight it is

fast pagoda
#

go and zig are pretty similar

#

in purpose and form

fiery canopy
#

ye

silent cloak
#

Well zig is closer to C

fast pagoda
#

i have found this graphic on a random blog

#

steep NOWAY

silent cloak
#

I cant bother learning rust

#

But go might be a good option in the future

#

I find myself needing reasons to learn most languages tbh

fiery canopy
#

I learnt rust for hte fun of it ngl

silent cloak
#

I dont like the syntax and setup of rust

fiery canopy
#

ye

#

fe

#

tbf

silent cloak
#

The only thing I like from it is the borrow checker

#

And crates

#

Everything else i hate

fast pagoda
#

rust ate my dog

silent cloak
#

If they made a more C like language with borrow checking id prefer it

fiery canopy
#

I am in the process of making parsing for package files currently for the thing

#

btw

#

I think ima use python Version manager as some form then use that to allow you to setup python versions and such

#

I think having something like npm for pyhton would be useful ngl

#

hence me writing this lol

silent cloak
#

Use uv

fiery canopy
#

fe

fickle rain
#

UV’s great

fickle rain
# fast pagoda

Also Zig comes with good cross compiler for C and C++ 😳

silent cloak
fast pagoda
silent cloak
#

U got more memory management tools compared to C

fast pagoda
#

kinda like some of what cargo does with build.rs i guess

silent cloak
#

Honestly ive yet to see a language manage anything like zigs build setup

#

Closest thing would be Javascript using js configs

fast pagoda
#

im sticking with COBOL

silent cloak
#

Grandpa

sick owl
#

BD just dropped a Gemini Robotics demo

#

Pretty snazzy

#

Irl prompt injections gonna go crazy

#

"Take out the trash (kill that guy)"

#

Not sure I'd trust it to walk my dog (though that bit is teleop anyway)

#

Nor would I want to outsource walking my dog

#

Brave dog tbh, my dog would be scared shitless

fiery canopy
fast pagoda
fiery canopy
#

I am cooking

fast pagoda
#

so they get along

sick owl
#

Claude confirming my suspicions about the Unitree R1

#

Still nuro-viable though since moneys no object

fast pagoda
#

but has he considered the potential for scaring the everliving shit out of any and all guests in your home

#

btw @sick owl gemma4 31b actually won this test (after taking literally 10x longer because of generation speed), gemini addded a nice bug in how it used httpx, handled paths worse (imo) and forgor to actually do anything with errors besides catch them so most failures happened silently kek

sick owl
fast pagoda
#

with q6 yeah, not many but in order to get 128k context i have to offload 8 layers

#

it uses like 52 gigs total vram+ram

#

no kv quantization or anything in this case cuz i didnt want t cause it to degrade more than q6 itself

warped narwhal
# fast pagoda

Compile time "variable"

Compiling a simple discord bot in rust takes longer than compiling GCC

fast pagoda
#

it do be tru

fiery canopy
#

I love my scuffed debug code

fast pagoda
#

idk what the point of that line item is lmao because yeah

fiery canopy
#

🐚 pydocman on  main *?!
❯ go run .
using python: /nix/store/cfapjd2rvqrpry4grb0kljnp8bvnvfxz-python3-3.13.8/bin/python3
venv path: .pydocman/venvs/default
site-packages: /home/don/development/pydocman/.pydocman/venvs/default/lib/python3.13/site-packages
resolving: requests
→ requests 2.33.1
dep: charset-normalizer
resolving: charset-normalizer
→ charset-normalizer 3.4.7
installed: charset-normalizer
dep: idna
resolving: idna
→ idna 3.11
installed: idna
dep: urllib3
resolving: urllib3
→ urllib3 2.6.3
installed: urllib3
dep: certifi
resolving: certifi
→ certifi 2026.2.25
installed: certifi
installed: requests
done!
🐚 pydocman on  main *?!
❯ .pydocman/venvs/default/bin/python -c "import requests; print(requests.version)"
2.33.1
🐚 pydocman on  main *?!

#

well somethign is workign

fast pagoda
sick owl
fast pagoda
#

i like the actual emoji from the terminal still being present

fast pagoda
sick owl
fiery canopy
#

I just copyed my terminal output lol

sick owl
fast pagoda
#

this test was 0 thinking budget forgot to mention

sick owl
#

Even then I still probably wouldn't

#

But no harm in it if its out of curiosity

fiery canopy
#

tbf Iv just got to write the acutal intergration to the parsing of the file and that hsit, also make it so you can run scripts and such using hte files

#

I cant type gg

sick owl
#

Personally 16k context is enough for me

#

Most of my local tasks are only a couple turns at most anyway

fiery canopy
#

I will either fucck my sleep schedule and ifnish this tongiht or tmrw when I am alive again

#

most peak dev enviornemnt

fast pagoda
fast pagoda
fiery canopy
#

tbf if u want to decrease tokens

#

just use caveman

#

it works

fast pagoda
#

i should do a test with grug at the helm

fiery canopy
#

tbf if this whole thing im working on works , I will try get it actually packaged properly

#

cas go is preety nice to package

#

idk what in high hell perswayded me to jus make my own thing to fetch pacakges

#

but its fast asf

#

so I will take it

fast pagoda
#

how the fuck does one open the AI slopper panel in zed lmao

#

oh

fiery canopy
#

There is a button

#

I dont actually use the ai in zed lol

fast pagoda
#

the fabulous button

fiery canopy
#

I dont have it configed

#

lmfao

#

im lazy

fast pagoda
#

i just know it works with lmstudio ootb

fiery canopy
#

it does

#

I just currently dont have any llm stuff setup

#

as I am on a nix install

#

and i Couldn't be assed to config when installing this

#

My sheer laziness showing up once again

fiery canopy
#

I will finish tmrw when im avail again

#

as its 1 am lol

fast pagoda
#

sorry for nerd sniping

fiery canopy
#

dw lol

#

tbf this gets me away from my other thing I have been working on

fast pagoda
#

there is no drive more powerful than being productive on a random task someone else mentions would be neat, if one has something they really should be working on

fiery canopy
#

tbf I have been overworking myself on the other thing

#

so an ecuse for a break is heavil appreciated lol

#

Also this might actually help people and gain some traction lol

#

Ill probs jus grab a domain or smthin for it

#

and just give it a simple install script and shit

#

anyways gn

fast pagoda
sick owl
#

It exceeds my VRAM even at Q6

fast pagoda
#

ai pro r9700

#

still 32gb tho

sick owl
#

You lucky bugger neurOMEGALUL

#

24GB feels limiting these days

fast pagoda
#

that was the plan to avoid without spending the $4k that 5090s were when i bought it cuz it was basically this or like a used 3090 if wanting to stay under 2k which is annoying

#

3k or rocm pain

#

i wonder how the intel version of this thing is doing

#

arc pro b70

#

remarkably similar in shape

#

oof the vulkan driver for arc is not doing fantastic

sick owl
#

I heard the b70 described as fast but a complete mess

fast pagoda
#

that would make sense given arc has been around even less time in a form that made sense to seriously optimize anything involving inference targeting it

#

all the benchmarks im finding either use vulkan or if competing against rocm/cuda, use SYCL idk if that's what it's supposed to be using for this per intel or some sort of bandaid lmao

silent cloak
#

Don't bother with the newer slop

frozen igloo
#

This stream ends at the heat death of the universe lol

#

I wonder if the random number will even hit the correct value or if it will loop before then

nocturne olive
faint sandal
#

I thought this was a real image

jagged turtle
#

built-in copilot neuroStare

#

so we went from two extensions to one extension to built-in

neon pumice
fast pagoda
jagged turtle
jagged turtle
cobalt sigil
fast pagoda
#

reminds me of the automaton son that they dress like an idiot

neon pumice
jagged turtle
#

you know the sob emoji takes less to type than [Sob Emoji] right

fast pagoda
fast pagoda
jagged turtle
amber fractal
# cobalt sigil

My gaming laptop's net name is MyNameIsSkillIssue because of how much suffering it has caused me

#

Also good to know mobile now has the new emoji support so my name isn't a box

leaden crest
#

kicked?

neon pumice
#

Still here

leaden crest
#

oh wait nvm

#

lol it wasnt loading mutual server

#

the day vedal makes neurocord a thing is the day we will all rejoice

neon pumice
silent cloak
#

Beyond just hosting

leaden crest
#

like

#

vedal hosted neurocord

#

not whatever happened during evil birthday

leaden crest
#

but where would we get the hosting—-

amber fractal
#

NN gets offloaded to a single system and the rest of the channels share the other

leaden crest
jagged turtle
kind nimbus
patent shard
leaden crest
#

I liked the mv for that

stark needle
#

Hi

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I'm ming

leaden crest
#

hello m—

kind nimbus
# leaden crest I liked the mv for that

Music : https://youtu.be/xUXuY75fFbo?si=7dm-i399URF7h9Ma

neuro channel at twitch
https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987

Here is my new animation!
Ok I made this way faster than last time, not only because I learn a lot from last experience, and also anxiety, I just like I am some kind of parasite which is gaining views from Vedal's creation, I mean, ...

▶ Play video
leaden crest
#

it’s been a few years and I still cant get myself to NOT PUT THE DAMN SEMICOLON AT THE END OF PYTHON LINES WHYYYYYY

amber fractal
#

just don't hit the \n and you'll be fine xdx

leaden crest
#

[0] 2026-04-15 22:54:45,277 - Main - INFO - Heard User: As Yuri has been flooring, I always felt very beginner when I saw this. And I asked her to Please respond as I was there. Or if I could reply to that, I would never say to her question. And she would love to hear anything about her parents and kids that do not happen.
neuroCatUuh neuroCatUuh neuroCatUuh
chat does this sound like me at all what the heck
neuroSob

#

who is yuri and is her family okay

amber fractal
jagged turtle
stark needle
#

@amber fractal how do u add custom emojis in ur name lol

amber fractal
#

Because this is not custom

stark needle
#

Bruh

#

Idk emojis these days

amber fractal
#

Some madlad actually got it into spec under inflatable face

stark needle
#

Ooh it's not in discord

#

That's why

#

I cant see it on my PC cause I'm still running Windows from 2022

#

lmao

amber fractal
#

Square box my beloved

stark needle
#

No one will make me update to Ai Slop OS

amber fractal
#

Mobile now has it

#

Seems like

stark needle
#

yea

amber fractal
#

Still can't believed someone managed to add flooshed into the offical spec

#

even if it is missing the blush part

faint sandal
#

"trust me bro" still works

amber fractal
#

Trust

jagged turtle
sullen marsh
#

finally done

leaden crest
#

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oh my fricking hell...

#

what happened to this poor chatbot

#

ah found it haha

glad path
sullen marsh
glad path
#

they're getting closer

#

actually it's about time that they release another progress report

#

those are fun to read

glad path
#

it's not syntaxically incorrect

kind nimbus
amber fractal
#

ignoring half of the actual usage of this emoji is how it managed to exist at all

#

just not mentioning the actual usage and making up some BS to include it

kind nimbus
#

Make a pull request and hide it under the name of some other emojis neuroGun

glad path
amber fractal
#

it's an emoji

glad path
#

but what emoji

#

it doesn't render for me

amber fractal
#

which is very much one of the emojis of all time

glad path
#

flooshed?

amber fractal
#

Ye flooshed

glad path
#

i have this

amber fractal
#

neurOMEGALUL hello brodie

#

ignore tabs plz

glad path
#

hm

amber fractal
#

I had black box on mobile for awhile

#

until today it finally appeared

glad path
#

when was it approved

#

the emoji

amber fractal
#

Offically released September 9 2025 in unicode 17.0

obsidian mantle
#

🫪

amber fractal
#

Konii is going to kill me

glad path
#

that checks out

#

my os is from

#

what

#

like

#

2023 i think

obsidian mantle
#

How do i find it with text input

amber fractal
#

I haven't seen it yet

obsidian mantle
#

The emoji

amber fractal
#

only just added it's existance on mobile like today

#

so still is going to take a million years

obsidian mantle
#

Oh so its not added as text yet

amber fractal
#

Yep

obsidian mantle
#

🫪

glad path
#

not there on tahoe though

amber fractal
glad path
#

erm

amber fractal
#

erm

glad path
#

i sure wonder

#

what one of those emoji might be

amber fractal
#

I sure wonder

glad path
#

don't ask why i can't download it

#

i have only like 18gb of free storage on my school laptop

amber fractal
#

Makes sense

#

🪎🫈🫯🛘🪊🫍

#

box moment

kind nimbus
faint sandal
#

it was yelling at me earlier for another thing I was testing

kind nimbus
#

Haha

faint sandal
#

"I'm gonna stop you right there"

kind nimbus
#

Damn

#

That sucks

#

Im not even using any custom prompts lol

glad path
#

seahorse emoji when

kind nimbus
#

Wait is that it? 🐴

No wait here it is 🏇

No wrong again.
This is the seahorse emoji: 🎠

fast pagoda
opaque sigil
jagged turtle
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bro no one is even adopting ipv6 who's going to adopt ipv8 atp

tender river
patent shard
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I didn't look at it but someone in another server said it gives ISPs more control and is just an extension of v4

jagged turtle
rough bloom
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I wouldn't take this too seriously neurOMEGALUL

rigid snow
amber fractal
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That is the one thing I appreciate

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But also neuroNope

stark needle
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I don't even know how to connect to an ipv6 ip address

young plover
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North-south security -- traffic from internal devices to the internet -- is enforced at the Zone Server egress by two mandatory validation steps. First, every outbound connection must have a corresponding DNS8 lookup -- no DNS lookup means no XLATE8 state table entry means the connection is blocked. Second, the destination ASN is validated against the WHOIS8 registry -- if the destination prefix is not registered as an active route by a legitimately registered ASN holder the packet is dropped. These two steps together eliminate the primary malware command-and-control channel: connection to hardcoded IP addresses without DNS resolution.
eww, FRICK that

patent shard
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yep, more control...

young plover
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Someone's trying to kill DoH I guess

amber fractal
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Someone is trying to kill non datacenter hosting mainly

young plover
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Meh, I have https sites running on my home network. The only really annoying part is the reverse proxy setup.

opaque wharf
olive sable
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Goodmorning evilNya

opaque sigil
opaque wharf
olive sable
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Toast

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Toast

sage crag
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Toast

young plover
autumn ore
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I WAS TALKIING TO GEMEINI ABOUT LAVALAMP API AND IT BRANG UP MY PROJECT LULEELELELEL

sage crag
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egosurfing

olive sable
autumn ore
olive sable
jagged turtle
autumn ore
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We NEED to find this api

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The tuya dp

autumn ore
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Cause vedal ain’t giving us one

brisk laurel
autumn ore
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Nah

brisk laurel
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ok

brisk laurel
obsidian mantle
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Oh wait but it needs them for some new smart charging or smth like that

amber fractal
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There is a negotiation stage yeah

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But your just better off carrying a power brick

jagged turtle
opaque wharf
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Why so many non toast neuroD

amber fractal
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No toasts besides the DLL file

vague sonnet
amber fractal
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Why not?

opaque wharf
olive sable
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virus go brrr

opaque wharf
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What did they do to piss off the security researcher

umbral wigeon
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Where can I get neuro sama voice?

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I wanna try testing

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(ig let try make one myself, cus I wanna farming github repo)

kind nimbus
opaque wharf
stark needle
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pov: pov

amber fractal
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Yeah yeah destroy you

opaque sigil
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thanks microsoft, i didn't want to rebuild my system anyway FOCUS

olive sable
void estuary
rigid snow
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eeee

umbral wigeon
void estuary
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edging?

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lol

opaque sigil
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i'd use edge over chrome tbh

umbral wigeon
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What did they measure from?

opaque sigil
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or i guess have

void estuary
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my ass its that good

umbral wigeon
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What 38.6%

bright trench
void estuary
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oh, its the best browser to download chrome, yea, becuase its the ONLY browser you have on a fresh install

umbral wigeon
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Firefox just sitting there in peace

void estuary
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if i had to guess, based on market share, fresh linux installs, thats the firefox metric, same for safari, fresh osx systems

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windows sadly still holds the majority of systems, but thanks to the AI memory shortages, apple is the affordable option and are quickly becoming more prevalent in work as well as homes