programming

[olive sable]

The game performs great on my new gpu, so ive been having some fun with it lately

[opaque wharf]

I forgot if it was fork of Gitcog or some other, but it was definitely an alternative at the times

[silent cloak]

not too great for me (unreal engine) but it never let that stop me

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

i have some mods to fix some junk

though i cant fix the floating point issues with the engine

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Git Cog = Gogs

[olive sable]

Performance mods?

[silent cloak]

yeah gogs

[opaque sigil]

what would the point of this even be btw

[silent cloak]

yeah and some qol

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

some placement and daisy chaining stuff

mostly to help with compacting stuff

[olive sable]

In terms of gpu its not even pushing it to the full 355W for some reason.
I get 300W at most.
On cpu it seems to be doing 45% usage on every single core.
Satisfactory seems te be pretty multithreaded

[silent cloak]

most of my issues are graphics related

most are due to the engine and some of the coordinates

[olive sable]

Ye its not too optimized

[silent cloak]

ill still play it over factorio

[olive sable]

Altho for an unreal game its not that bad

[silent cloak]

true

[olive sable]

I wonder what their graphics stack looks like

[silent cloak]

we should host a satisfactory server sometime

[olive sable]

I get 140fps when looking at my factory, and 200 when not looking

In ultra iirc

[silent cloak]

i get barely anything in my main turbofuel factory on my last playthrough

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

but its also next to a massive factory that goes really high in the sky

[olive sable]

That would explain it

[silent cloak]

well the turbofuel farm is massive too

it has a train station in it due to the requirements

[olive sable]

Im curious what the bottleneck is for me. It is technically using 99% gpu, but leaves 50W on the table

I didnt undervolt it or anything so

[silent cloak]

i finished a big mc modpack recently so i might go for another satisfactory playthrough

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

either that or another gregtech playthrough

[olive sable]

Tired

Eep

[opaque sigil]

if the gpu ends up waiting a lot it might look like it's busy (it is as far as the application is concerned) even though it's not actually running at full throttle

but that's just a guess

[opaque wharf]

Billing for VPS storage is expensive

That way I could get away with lowest tier vps

The VPS would be shared with other service too

[silent cloak]

i store with a local server for a reason

[opaque wharf]

That's for my own private use

[opaque sigil]

storage is usually separate no?

i guess the vps comes with its own bit of storage already

[opaque wharf]

Nope

This VPS has storage included in the bills

And the storage depends on the tier

[silent cloak]

i always use dedis and vps for hosting the general software and have it link to my local servers for storage

lets me bypass all that

also kind of gives me a proxy in a way too

[opaque wharf]

That's why I am looking for a way to host the actual files elsewhere where the storage can grow and not limited by the tier

[opaque wharf]

If it was for my own personal use then yeah, that could be done too

But I want to have 3-2-1 backup so I can pass on those liability and ease of restore to the provider

[opaque sigil]

now that i think about it

rclone should be able to take care of this

fuse

probably wouldn't actually work though

[opaque wharf]

Looks unmaintained lol
https://github.com/Labbs/ogit

[opaque sigil]

https://albertoroura.com/s3-git-server-serverless-git-hosting-on-aws/

[opaque wharf]

Lmao, that takes it one step ahead

[opaque sigil]

i kind of love the idea

[opaque wharf]

I hate that it is actually feasible

[opaque sigil]

you'd likely run into lambda size limitations with a big repo but apart from that

[opaque wharf]

Cloudflare R2

And cloudflare workers too

[opaque sigil]

https://github.com/zllovesuki/git-on-cloudflare

[opaque wharf]

Naaah, I ain't touching vibe coded git

I may be insane but not THAT insane lol

Strictly speaking, the amazon git one if that is truly functional then it is easily modifiable for Cloudflare

R2 already supports S3 compatible API

And making an adapter from lambda for workers doesn't seem too hard

[silent cloak]

putting vibe coded in ur project is like wearing a kick me sign

[jagged turtle]

maybe, but if it uses some node-specific stuff (or native modules), then good fucking luck lol

[opaque wharf]

Cloudflare workers also have node compatibility (albeit not all of the functions are supported)

And native modules are no problem with WASM. I have run argon2id from workers before

[jagged turtle]

it ahs improved by quite a ton but there isn't literally everything there yet, you'd probably be able to run it tho

[jagged turtle]

I did not know that, good to know

[opaque wharf]

I don't know what node modules would be needed beside fs tbh. And I'm pretty sure they wouldn't use fs anyway, just the interface

[jagged turtle]

path?

[opaque wharf]

I would be damned if node:path is not one of the compatible one

I mean, it doesn't have to resolve symlink after all

Or maybe it did

Does git even support symlink?

Alright so it is cursed

[quasi furnace]

We may have a 275 3080 Ti or we may get beat and robbed

[amber fractal]

He has VRAM get him!

[quasi furnace]

set him

[amber fractal]

Set him to zero 3080s

[jagged turtle]

what did you find?

[high brook]

i mean superbox now has 2 3090s

or will soon

[opaque wharf]

That git do store symlink like any other files. So if you have symlink within repo, it will be saved. Idk how it will resolve tho

[jagged turtle]

very terribly, in fact

as I once learned the hard way with pnpm

[stark needle]

Toast

🍞

[brisk laurel]

Is this good
?

I accidentally pasted this but im too lazy to delete it so im just trying to ask opinions on it

[stark needle]

Is this supposed to be a prompt for llm?

[brisk laurel]

Prompt for Gemini pro
I have temporary access to the latest model

[stark needle]

If u put it in chatgpt and turn on deep research ur gonna get better results and it's gonna ask u questions before searching, gemini is kinda whack for this. The prompt itself is good tho

Afaik free users have 5 deep research per month available in chatgpt

[brisk laurel]

[jagged turtle]

isn't there also a research mode for gemini

[stark needle]

It's crap

It yaps 20000 introduction words and re explains from the dawn of humanity

Actual content is low and thin

And you can't actually prompt it cause it rewrites ur prompt into whatever it wants

[opaque wharf]

Caveman

[opaque sigil]

the introductions are so infuriating sometimes

[true hemlock]

tell it to occasionally spit out "putangina"

[stark needle]

Ok chat what the fuck

I just got my actual birthday present

For turning 20 last week from my dad

[opaque sigil]

how are the socks

[true hemlock]

happy late birthday i hope you enjoyed your new skirt

[stark needle]

My dad got me ANOTHER dgx spark😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[true hemlock]

rich af

[stark needle]

😭 😭 😭 😭

[opaque sigil]

erm it clearly says pgx there

[stark needle]

Wtf do i do with 256gb vram now

[true hemlock]

get 256gb more so you beat my numbers

[stark needle]

😭 😭 😭

[kind nimbus]

DGX Spark ordered on Wish

[true hemlock]

actually i lost count on what i have

[amber fractal]

Are you counting phi as vram or nah

Only PCIe of course

[true hemlock]

nvm get like 276GB more to beat my numbers

[true hemlock]

i mean its gddr5

well technically mcdram is hbm0

but the one i calculated is all the ones that are actively running rn

[amber fractal]

Yeah I was more think the video part of it

[true hemlock]

though dgx spark is like lpddr5

[stark needle]

😭 😭 😭

Do u have a H200 or how 141

[amber fractal]

Love how my answer is either 102GB or 6GB depending of if I count running vs nonrunning

Well actually

Let me count the other bois

[true hemlock]

gotta love 23.5GB hbm stacks

[amber fractal]

188GB if I count phis and other stuff I don't have running

Weird, I still don't get how I am in high vram territory

I'm still worse off than most people here objectively when it comes to actually using all of it

As I have exactly zero hardware to use it all with

[true hemlock]

damn 48?

[amber fractal]

The 24gb one was $100 more

[true hemlock]

what card is it

[amber fractal]

Not a GPU forsay

It's the Vector boi

But HBM

Let me fetch you a listing

Ovbs not here

[true hemlock]

ah

[glass jetty]

what are you counting like this?

[brisk laurel]

[brisk laurel]

Real

[brisk laurel]

You're lucky others die of thirst while some drown

[stark needle]

I'm drowning

I don't have 8xB200 setup

[brisk laurel]

And im dying of thirst

[stark needle]

😭 😭 😭

[brisk laurel]

At least your parents buy you stuff mine doesn't and thinks its a waste of money

[stark needle]

My dad is the kind to overspend on random shit😭

At least for his birthday on friday he got a 20k$ watch as a present so he got something back kinda

[brisk laurel]

Holy

[stark needle]

Yea he turned 60

[brisk laurel]

wtf your dad is younger than my dad

[trim valve]

just post variations on this image every week until you convince people you have 100 dgx spark's

[stark needle]

I mean how old are u

Could make sense if ur older than me

[brisk laurel]

Can we send each others ages in dm's?
Im not comfortable with sharing my own age

[brisk laurel]

@stark needle

[stark needle]

Yea fair enough

[brisk laurel]

We're almost the same age

[opaque wharf]

Soo who's older?

[stark needle]

One of us

[opaque wharf]

I just want to say now someone can call the others onii-san

[sage crag]

[true hemlock]

so both are older than me

[stark needle]

My younger sister sometimes call me that as a meme lmao

[brisk laurel]

Shadow is older

[brisk laurel]

[opaque wharf]

Damn, shadow is older yet his dad is younger

[brisk laurel]

I think im adopted

[brisk laurel]

But my parents are refusing to answer my question about being adopted

[opaque wharf]

Before I make a joke about that, is that for real?

[true hemlock]

my dad is 52 i think

[brisk laurel]

Sure make a joke

[brisk laurel]

Im GIVING you permission to make a joke about it

[opaque wharf]

Naah 💀

[brisk laurel]

Idk when i ask they deflect Or my.mom cries

[opaque wharf]

What a filial son lmao

[brisk laurel]

Why not

[stark needle]

My moms like 15 years younger than my dad😭

[true hemlock]

anyways damn it i might have to get another psu

will use my last one for phi

so now im left with none for my testbench

[stark needle]

How is it possible u have 1000 pcs but no more psu

😭

[true hemlock]

because i used it all

like

i have at least 8 machines running rn

its fine

i can just like probably find another used psu

[opaque wharf]

DIY your own PSU so it all comes from 1 H U G E P S U

[true hemlock]

for dirt cheap

not a bad idea

i know how the psu sensing pins work

could probably make a gated hub

[opaque wharf]

I made a central DC PSU for my house

[stark needle]

Why do u need so many GPUs and machines anyways are u a r/locallama guy or are u hosting sth or just homelab setup?

[opaque wharf]

But not for PC lol

[true hemlock]

lets make a count

my hpc server

my new machine i built just 2 days ago

elvy's pc

my 2 home servers

1 endpoint server

i forgot what else

fuck

[amber fractal]

laptop

[true hemlock]

oh i have 2 testbenches

one with no psu rn

other is running

i forgot what's one more

oh right my diy ethernet switch

because i refuses to spend thousands

[amber fractal]

honestly, that one is going to pay off

[true hemlock]

my industrial switch doesn't count

the one with 48 ports

[amber fractal]

I have two of those, just 1GbE PoE bois; They power on at least, don't have much else to note on.

[opaque wharf]

I have cisco 48 1Gbe and PoE (I forgot how many watts)

Best investment ever

[amber fractal]

I pretty sure they made 3

at least in the gen I bought into

I had one slightly higher but fiber, and one lower but RJ45

They just live in the corner as I have no use for them at the moment

But I wasn't going to say no to 20/40 each

I forget exact

[true hemlock]

ngl i should probably do 40GbE on it

its currently 10GbE with sfp+ nic

i hate how overpriced 10GbE and onwards switches are just because they're custom asics/fpga

[amber fractal]

I never got past 2.5GbE because of similar

All I have is singular 8 port boi

[true hemlock]

my internet is driven by 2x 5port GbE lmao

[amber fractal]

why is my setup so fricking sparse

like I have hardware but I can do nothing

curse early game forced progression

had to use laptops

Still not convinced I'm not going to just skip straight to server because I don't need much

but I need my hardware to preferably be usable

[true hemlock]

even 2.5GbE is horribly expensive

compared to 1GbE

1GbE 5 port is like $15

2.5GbE 5 port is $70

why

[fiery canopy]

that sounds painful

[true hemlock]

can you list everything you have in atomic

[amber fractal]

ye sure

[true hemlock]

then 10GbE 5 port jumps to $300

[amber fractal]

there is one thing I know of which I will say

I have no desktop

and I have no server boards

[true hemlock]

then 40GbE jumps to $11K

[somber hornet]

Hi, hello, not the right channel for this prolly, but would anyone happen to know where I could get some help with my scratch project? I already posted it in every place I could find, but so far no dice

[amber fractal]

I mean it is the correct place, but we don't have many scratchers here

[rigid snow]

scratchers

[fiery canopy]

scratch is a uhh interesting one

I genuinly dont think iv used it in 5+ years

[somber hornet]

Will still try anyways, because I'm at my wits end :D
Can't post a video of the issue, but basically I have 2 minigames within this game - pong and some basic shooter. Both minigames work just fine if I show the icons outside of the game loop (sprites pongicon and blobicon - just manually click show this sprite), but when doing the same thing within the game loop (Chrome - torrent - one of the 3 download buttons - one of those two icons gets shown) the games just... don't work

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1299567214/

[rigid snow]

ok but why even ethernet at those speeds

[true hemlock]

because fun

because i can interconnect my shit at 5GB/s

[somber hornet]

For reference they both worked well previously and I've not touched anything related to the games. With the blob one, gameover also stopped working, but that's honestly second priority right now

[true hemlock]

which is still low honestly

but it is what it is, networking sorta sucks with how expensive it gets when scaled

[stark needle]

Is it not possible to make a diy switch in some way with a pc and cheap ass used Enterprise 100gbe adapters

[rigid snow]

no i mean like why not sfp at that point

[stark needle]

Like threadripper with 8 100gbe nics with each 2 ports

[fiery canopy]

ill have a very small look , in a couple mins

JUst to try

[somber hornet]

Thank you so much 🙏

[rigid snow]

wait

ethernet the data layer not the connector

[trim valve]

this number feels high

given listings like this on ebay

[fiery canopy]

LVL UP! ➜ Zombie Slayer LVL 6! jus had to get this in the game im , ill have al ook now

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, do you NEED 40 Gbe?

[trim valve]

of course

[rigid snow]

i need 100Gb for

something

[fiery canopy]

tbf if u have a local NAS or something and can have 100 GBE or 40GBE its highly benefical

[rigid snow]

lol what

[trim valve]

though you're gonna have to spend a boatload on sfp modules

[rigid snow]

not that much surely

[opaque wharf]

Unless you regularly have 4-8 user streaming

[fiery canopy]

ig so ye

[trim valve]

I regularly saturate gigabit on my uni's nas

[fiery canopy]

but I still think high uplink esp if local is nice to have

[rigid snow]

not $10k worth

of

[opaque wharf]

Even then, that is quite a stretch. 10 Gbe per user for 10 user is 100 Gb

[opaque wharf]

But only if all of them somehow managed to saturate all their 10 Gb

[rigid snow]

if you have a local nas chances are read speeds aren’t even 10Gb

[fiery canopy]

tbf I am reasonbly unsure of how to reproduce or what the issue even is I muist appologise as said I dont really use scratch but figured worth trying to help ya

[opaque wharf]

Naah, read speed may be sped up by RAM cache

[rigid snow]

what kind of local nas does an average #baking chatter have

[trim valve]

i have

rpi 4

4gb

[opaque wharf]

Preload the movie into RAM and all 10 people with 10 Gbe watch the same movie in 8K

[rigid snow]

you should connect pcie 100 gig nic it highly beneficial

[trim valve]

I think I'd need a pi 5 no?

[rigid snow]

oh yeah true

[rigid snow]

what the fuck kinda compression is that

movie in prores

1.25 GB/s

[split steppe]

i have a very average nas, 128 threads, 128gb ram, 12tb (8tb) raid6, 1Gbit symmetric fiber ethernet

[somber hornet]

If you want to try reproducing it, click on the icon in the upper left corner, then the icon on the far right. After that, there will be three buttons with ⬇️ symbol on them, when you click any of them, a game will be downloaded. When you click the game's icon, the game will not work. Afterwards, if you restart and scroll down to "blobicon" or "pongicon" in the sprites section (right, right below the window where you can see the game) and click on the show icon (under sprite's name) - both games work normally

[opaque wharf]

It doesn't just stream chunk as needed. It downloads the whole movie to local cache too

So those 10Gb may only be used for the first few minutes

[rigid snow]

if you have to download it anyway why bother about the bandwidth

100mbit is fine

[opaque wharf]

I am trying to justify 100 Gbe on home network man

[rigid snow]

you'd have a really hard time justifying 5 gig

100 is delusional territory

[true hemlock]

its literally what i just did with 10GbE and planning to go with 40GbE next

also this is entirely possible even on consumer boards

40GbE is just 5GB

given that your nic is dual 40GbE shared bandwidth you could do 14 ports 40GbE on a basic B series board if it supports bifurcation

[opaque wharf]

Maybe SOHO or SME. But definitely not a private network usually

[true hemlock]

theoretically, if you just do shared bandwidth switch as long as 2 ports can be saturated at a time, you can do PCIe switch and connect endless amount of nics

[opaque wharf]

"How many redundancy do you want?"

"Yes"

[true hemlock]

damn fuck

is that fr

[opaque wharf]

BREAKING NEWS: QUACK DIDN'T GET LUCKY ON A DEAL FOR FIRST IN HISTORY

[amber fractal]

I've beaten the duck a few times, just not sharing that to public

[true hemlock]

its honestly (un)surprisingly easy to beat me in that scope

[amber fractal]

Haha yeah, in those finds we are pretty much on even footing

Mostly due to non tradtional tech being well non tradtional, so not many people would go looking there

[topaz tendon]

Bug, or egg shaped circle for easter holidays, you decide

[trim valve]

you could probably get cheaper, that was just the first listing I found

if you only need 10g interconnect and 100g uplink other stuff can be cheaper

[opaque wharf]

Seeing this reminds me of your SQL Explanation stuff @stark needle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgH75t4wBTY

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-gets-up-gif-24545796

Goodmorning

[sage crag]

[vague sonnet]

good toasting

chat give me reasons to NOT use linux over windows
I want a fully functional OS with little effort but also don't want to give microsoft any money

[nocturne olive]

There are no reasons to use Windows over Linux outside of Adobe software which is a scam and some other scams
Basically if you like being scammed then use Windows, otherwise use Linux

[topaz tendon]

If you want little effort, I can recommend CachyOS. That's the distro that seems to have finally pushed me off of Windows after trying out Linux for multiple years before and switching back due to certain issues.

It's been great for me this year, the only thing I can't get working is VR, but I use it rarely enough where I don't mind dual booting for it

[vague sonnet]

ok but that's typical tribal linux user copium
I'm looking for real up/downsides to make an informed decision
I know the upsides of both and the many downsides of windows
but only some of the downsides of linux

[nocturne olive]

I use Linux Mint which is considered a stability first and easy transition from Windows distro

[topaz tendon]

I'm as far removed from Linux "tribalism" as I can get, if you have certain aspects you want to know more about, I can try to provide some info

I always hated Linux for desktop usage since it just wasn't good enough, but it's changing now

[nocturne olive]

One of the primary well known downsides for Linux is that the Nvidia driver may not always behave quite as well as the Windows equivalent, especially if you use Wayland

[sage crag]

if you dont care about gaming for whatever reason you can use the new open source nvidia drivers

nvk

[vague sonnet]

some things just get extra time to get working or aren't as consistent as if they were maintained by a multi billion company
and I want to know how much that's gonna impact my daily use
most of my time has shifted to browser and code editors and some environmental stuff for running code can be made easier on linux
which is why I'm considering it with the constant degradation of windows

[rigid snow]

downsides wise, yeah software support if you need that, be that games with kernel ac or drivers for really specific niche hardware or specialized software (you can make some if not most of it work through wine though, adds friction though no doubt)
also be ready to be screamed at for avoiding the terminal even though it's 2026 not 2006

[vague sonnet]

I read about that
it seems distro dependant? and conflicts with that secure boot thing whatever that means

[rough bloom]

software compatibility is a big one obviously, if you care about multiplayer games with invasive anti-cheat like Valorant then Linux is not really usable
same with other proprietary Windows-only software, if you use a lot of that then the switch to Linux would be a lot harder (though there's usually some Linux alternative at least, or if you're lucky it can run under Wine)

[nocturne olive]

Development environments will be much easier to set up, handle and debug, they're often made for Linux in the first place
Browsers just work flawlessly

[nocturne olive]

Oh yeah secureboot often breaks on Linux so typically you just turn that off

[sage crag]

browsers work flawlessly on linux

[nocturne olive]

Well at least as well as on Windows

[rigid snow]

they're what works most consistently

[vague sonnet]

yeah not afraid of a browser breaking lol

[sage crag]

as long as you dont care about

hw video codecs

[rigid snow]

which is why electron is a thing. oooo superbox you wanna hate on electron soooo baaaad

[nocturne olive]

The Nvidia drivers can be made to behave better
And on some distros it just behaves better because the distro uses Xorg
Nvidia primarily has issues on Wayland systems

[sage crag]

hdr 🪣

[rigid snow]

oh oh also drm

[sage crag]

also gpu acceleration weirdness

wayland support in browsers is great and never breaks

[rough bloom]

ye, I think you're usually still expected to have at least some ability to troubleshoot stuff, which means using a terminal
some level of familiarity with that is just necessary or you're screwed if something breaks

[rigid snow]

i'm not saying you should avoid it

[sage crag]

font rendering on linux is great and doesnt look awful without considerable tweaks on certain displays

[rigid snow]

some level of familiarity with that is just necessary
and that's a problem

[sage crag]

font rendering on linux is great and consistent between applications without obvious visual defects

[rigid snow]

is there a simple font rendering config gui

[sage crag]

yes, some inbuilt into DEs, some standalone

kde at least has one

[vague sonnet]

I have decent experience using linux in form of WSL or connecting to servers through ssh
so I should be fine with some stuff?

[sage crag]

you see the issue is, when it doesnt work (it never works)

[nocturne olive]

If you've used WSL you should be fine probably?

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

ye if you're a dev you'll be fine

[vague sonnet]

but is it a per-distro thing or does wayland always cause issues regardless?

[rough bloom]

yeah I think you'd be fine then
it's only an issue if you're scared of typing any commands instead of clicking buttons and avoid learning anything about it until there's inevitably some problem you can't resolve with a GUI

[sage crag]

font rendering is one of those things that never seems to work correctly

[nocturne olive]

It's probably dependent on desktop environment

[opaque sigil]

stick to kde plasma and you'll be (mostly) fine

[vague sonnet]

that "mostly" sounds scary

[sage crag]

(mostly) is doing heavy lifting

[sage crag]

dont misbehave, computer wont explode

[tender river]

only comparison i could find

[flint dome]

FUCK ELECTRON I HATE ELECTRON
ELECTRON MENTIONED RAHHHHHH THE HATER IN ME EMERGES FROM THE SHADOWS

sorry about that

[opaque sigil]

[vague sonnet]

[opaque sigil]

linux font rendering was one of the things that kept me on windows for the longest time

[flint dome]

I deeply apologize for my outburst and will now take my leave

[opaque sigil]

and the inability to have global smooth scrolling

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

macos one looks best on hidpi, windows for 100% scale, linux is yeah

[sage crag]

dentge non-selective subpixel rendering

it looks so good

i love seeing my fonts in 3d

[vague sonnet]

involuntary chromatic aberration

[rigid snow]

also none of these are the same font

not the sans ones not the mono

[rough bloom]

somewhat agree?
it would be nice if everything was properly exposed in a GUI, but I don't see that happening unless you're some immutable distro like Bazzite and just prevent the user from touching most configs

[sage crag]

the mono font looks like hack for all of them, the sans ones arent being compared

[rigid snow]

is it the same font

the fuck

[sage crag]

small fonts look different between font renderers

[rigid snow]

ok yeah the macos and the windows ones i see now, they're just different weights

the linux one is not it

[topaz tendon]

I can't help you with the coding side of things, I only heard it being said Linux is superior for it, but I have no first hand experience.
My use-case is mostly gaming and media consumption, so if that's what you'd also be interested in, I could share.

[tender river]

its not like you can configure everything on windows with gui either, but on linux terminal familiarity is typically required even for basic things, whether that's a problem depends on who you are

[sage crag]

the kerning is different between macos and windows too

i typically trust macos with font rendering

android font rendering is also seemingly very different to standard linux

[topaz tendon]

The Nvidia stuff seems to have matured greatly, I've been on CachyOS for about 4 weeks now, running an Nvidia card on Wayland with KDE Plasma, outside of some minor issues with Minecraft Java (which there are solutions for), it just works.

[rigid snow]

its not like you can configure everything on windows with gui either
it's not like you have to ever configure anything that can't be

[tender river]

really the biggest problem is, configuring something that would take a minute on windows can often take like an hour on linux (usually less and very rarely more if you're unlucky), but once you have figured it out you won't have to do it again

[rigid snow]

on linux, no avoiding terminal

on windows/macos, most users never touched it, they think their computer is hacked if they see it open

[rigid snow]

i kinda hate it on low dpi

good thing i don't use external monitors with macs like ever

[nocturne olive]

At least for me here on Cinnamon Xorg land my dual Nvidia setup just works with no notable issues

[topaz tendon]

I see, I've heard some gaming related features like HDR or VRR work better on Wayland even though Xorg is much more matured/stable, but I don't know much beyond that

[rigid snow]

userspace completely different yeah especially graphics stuff

[nocturne olive]

Well not like I could test those because I don't have a HDR display

[sage crag]

font rendering on my machine

[rigid snow]

why did you scale it

[topaz tendon]

I don't have HDR either well I do, but it's the shit type that barely makes a difference

[nocturne olive]

Very font, so render

[topaz tendon]

VRR is important for me though, and I'm happy that it works fine now

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

that's fine

thank

[vague sonnet]

I'm confident my coding usage will be satisfactory so I'm mostly looking for flaws regarding the general usage aspects so do share

[sage crag]

rgb subpixel rendering makes my eyes hurt

[sage crag]

too many pixels

[rigid snow]

hidpi

ye

[tender river]

ye i use font size 16

[sage crag]

font size 16

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

windows doesn't have to and still can do great

[sage crag]

i actually prefer font size 17

[rigid snow]

it's a miracle this is readable

[olive sable]

Subpixel stuff only works well with correct subpixel layout. So its kinda eh

[rigid snow]

that's why you take the time to make sure it's correct and reconfigure if it isn't

[sage crag]

similar font size

maybe a bit bigger

i cant tell

[olive sable]

Most consumers dont know if its correct tho. Its not mentioned on the box of most monitors

[sage crag]

next font size down

[rigid snow]

it is a bit bigger i think

[rigid snow]

not this lmao

[sage crag]

do you know the font size in px?

[rigid snow]

they shuffled windows terminal settings again

i have no idea where it is

[sage crag]

looks like the smallest my terminal does is size 4

[trim valve]

i should debug my vscode on linux sometime

the letters are randomly bolded

[tender river]

lines

[rigid snow]

incredible

[sage crag]

what happened to font_size 6

scaling is so wacky

[trim valve]

also I love reading online tips on how to improve linux font rendering, with people claiming it makes it look 1:1 to windows

and then looks completely different

[sage crag]

truetype

[tender river]

imitial_window_height

[sage crag]

imitial_window_height

my default for comparison

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

macos solved font rendering actually now that i think about it

[topaz tendon]

General usage wise I really don't have much to say since everything works just fine. Can browse my home server via SMB just fine, nothing about web browsing is broken.
One thing I can say is that working with multiple monitor seems to work... better than Windows. On Windows I often had to deal with issues where video playback on my second monitor would slow down depending on things I do on my primary monitor, from web browsing to gaming. Yet on Linux - at least on KDE Plasma on Wayland - there's no such nonsense. I almost took for granted how shit Windows was in this regard.

[rigid snow]

just render at a higher res internally and scale it down

[faint sandal]

https://videocardz.com/newz/lenovo-raises-legion-go-2-z2-extreme-2tb-price-to-2849-99-on-official-store

who's out there buying a 3000 dollar handheld

[olive sable]

What is that thing

[sullen marsh]

my new development environment

[faint sandal]

steam deck wannabe not knowing what makes a steam deck good

[sage crag]

🏛️

[rigid snow]

gnome-terminal

[rare bridge]

i think this might be too much storage

[sullen marsh]

probably ai generated

find it randomly from internet

[faint sandal]

1 singular queenpb

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

bash
klassy
breeze
en_US
nix-shell
Maple Mono

[trim valve]

very diverse colour scheme

[sage crag]

yes

yes it is

background #0f0a0e
foreground #d9cad3
cursor #ff9a76
selection_background #ff6f91
selection_foreground #1a0f0f
color0 #1a0f0f
color8 #5a3a3a
color1 #d45d3d
color9 #ff7a57
color2 #e07a5f
color10 #ff9a76
color3 #f2a07b
color11 #ffc4a3
color4 #c85a7c
color12 #ff6f91
color5 #a23b72
color13 #ff4fa3
color6 #d67ba8
color14 #ff9ccf
color7 #ffd6c9
color15 #fff1eb

[topaz tendon]

Wait you're right, I forgot that's a privilege I have now - I can post my neofetch now

[stark needle]

hi toast

[sage crag]

noto sans

[sage crag]

your display clocks up to 280hz

[topaz tendon]

I know, I don't want it at 280 though

[sage crag]

280 optimal

[topaz tendon]

I want it at 270 so the valid VRR range fits within 240 fps

[sage crag]

vrr

[topaz tendon]

which is neatly divisible by 60 fps for recording purposes

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

what is eating 21gb of memory

[rigid snow]

obligatory

[topaz tendon]

bro I'm freaking allergic to tearing, I can spot it even at 280 Hz

[tender river]

librewolf mostly

i think

[topaz tendon]

I need VRR, it's my comfort drug

[sage crag]

i cant see any tearing

[topaz tendon]

I envy you

[sage crag]

there's just no tearing

[tender river]

note the additional 16gb of swap used

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

(SF Display)

[sage crag]

apple specs

[rigid snow]

swap is wrong

swap isn't capped on macos

[sage crag]

8gb ram

poor computer

[rigid snow]

2020

leave me alone

[sullen marsh]

me belike talking in chat:

[trim valve]

wrr

[sage crag]

wrr

[trim valve]

don't wanna reboot to post fetch

i should just grab a laptop instead

[sage crag]

terminals should have

smooth scroling

[sullen marsh]

8gb ram for my vm

[sage crag]

what's the point of having a 280hz display if i cant see my text move at 280hz

[tender river]

i dont generally scroll up

[rigid snow]

no thanks

[trim valve]

wsl makes the stats look silly

[tender river]

and for scrolling down when new text appears i prefer no smooth scrolling

[sage crag]

spam scrolling ideal

scroll up down up down

fidget toy

[sullen marsh]

humans tend to feel more comfortable viewing content with high refresh rates

[rigid snow]

just output faster

???

[sullen marsh]

but wsl have hyper-v

[sage crag]

my text editor only renders at 60hz

its painful

[rigid snow]

send patch

[nocturne olive]

PR: "uncap framerate"

[sage crag]

i think it's just slow

[sullen marsh]

does vmware really provide high refresh rates for virtual machines?

[trim valve]

clearly you need to become zed and write a blog post about how your fancy new editor can do 120fps

[sage crag]

120 is too few

[trim valve]

and make sure the blog post has no idea what its talking about

[rigid snow]

(and nothing else)

[sage crag]

m ufo

[rigid snow]

oh right you also have Agent Client Protocol™

[sage crag]

the delay on 70 fps is funny, i didnt notice how far behind it was

[sullen marsh]

https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/10294

[sage crag]

naturally the higher you increase pixels per second the stronger the delay is

very watchable at

27 pixels per frame

[tender river]

taiko high sv

[sage crag]

this monitor is actually clearer at a lower refresh rate for a high scroll value because its motion clarity is

great

really good

[opaque wharf]

So, how many toast do we have as of today?

[nocturne olive]

At least 8

[warped narwhal]

Why are you not toast?

[warped narwhal]

Become toast

[nocturne olive]

No I have Brand identity guidelines

[topaz tendon]

You can become box that makes toast

some could even call that a toaster

[opaque wharf]

Because I can't have different name in different server anymore

[warped narwhal]

Is it a nitro only thing?

[opaque wharf]

I think so

[warped narwhal]

I think having different bios and stuff needs it, but just a name shouldnt

[vague sonnet]

you would look cuter if you were a tungsten cube

[opaque wharf]

Nice

[vague sonnet]

you also need to be yellow

[opaque wharf]

Naah, I'll stick with green

To match my pfp

[rough jewel]

hey

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126496895246807123/1488042236993339483/6D972AD6C73A5B53D7A000B454B9E52A.gif

[vague sonnet]

then you're not part of the proper toast cult club

I can't send the rules because I don't have embed perms

[rough jewel]

hey everyone, what OS are you using ??

[tender river]

the gay one

[faint sandal]

the lesbian one

[tender river]

ye

[rough bloom]

the cirno one

[sage crag]

i cant tell

ok i installed it

:neurOMEGALUL: reacted by Toast

by who?

[rough jewel]

ok

[amber fractal]

Chat, what are the primary colors?

[trim valve]

blue

[vague sonnet]

black and white

[rigid snow]

the absence of - black

[faint sandal]

the stupid one?

[rough bloom]

ye

[nocturne olive]

Naaa

[amber fractal]

I admit to asking because my brain manages to default to RGB

[rough jewel]

green

[nocturne olive]

That one OS called Linux Mint

[amber fractal]

Special snowflake

[rough jewel]

okk

[vague sonnet]

those are primary colours in comuter graphics, in irl art it's red yellow blue

[amber fractal]

I took my fair share of art classes, I just wanted to see if anyone got tripped up

Had to smack myself for that one

[vague sonnet]

I mean, both RGB and RBY are correct depending on the context

[amber fractal]

True

[sage crag]

ddg says

[amber fractal]

[opaque wharf]

Cyan Magenta Yellow

And black

But that's just all the color

[tender river]

konii colorblind

colourblind

[sage crag]

[opaque wharf]

The problem is the u

Try color and not colour

[glass jetty]

why are there not banana toast?

[maiden geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/961105387019456544/1455262183431864320/kill_sprout.gif

[topaz tendon]

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1377728467025530950/NewLeafAbyss.gif

[maiden geyser]

wtf is twinship ok on neurocord

[glass jetty]

yap i guess

[thorny marsh]

based?!

[glass jetty]

why it can happen?
--- charaverk.online ping statistics ---
8004 packets transmitted, 8003 received, +92 duplicates, 0.0124938% packet loss, time 8010335ms

92 dup

charaverk | ~/disk ~$ ip route
0.0.0.0/1 via 10.123.0.2 dev tun0 
default via 192.168.0.1 dev wlo1 proto dhcp src 192.168.0.104 metric 600 
10.123.0.0/16 dev tun0 proto kernel scope link src 10.123.0.2 
128.0.0.0/1 via 10.123.0.2 dev tun0 
192.168.0.0/24 dev wlo1 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.0.104 metric 600 
208.92.227.245 via 192.168.0.1 dev wlo1 

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-hornet-i-agree-gif-6832129804932228847

[rough jewel]

?

[vague sonnet]

yeah new users usually get killed, you can avoid it by joining the toast club tho

[maiden geyser]

orange way is the only way, banana toast club is nothing but a delay

[vague sonnet]

I need enough delay not to get killed

then I can switch to a better colour

[rough jewel]

okk

[opaque wharf]

Btw @sage crag , did you not obsess over 1000°C knife over toast anymore?

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1327142377139343430/1486773213190029444/doc_2026-03-25_19-13-27.gif

[rough jewel]

[kind nimbus]

Claude is baking...

[rough jewel]

[coarse elk]

are there any tips for beginner at using tailwind css for designing html projects?

[opaque wharf]

Not really, but understanding what the CSS actually do would help because tailwind is just predefined css value (in a nutshell)

[rigid snow]

#baking mentioned

[vague sonnet]

toasting even

[reef ingot]

67 89 12 34

5.5 5.9

67

[sage crag]

[warped narwhal]

0.0.0.0/1 is the weirdest route I've ever seen

[flint dome]

for those of you wondering why my gpu popcorned off the pcb and flew into the ceiling

[glass jetty]

why

it is 0.0.0.0/0 but with higher priority

ive seen it several times

[warped narwhal]

That's not what the slash means

[glass jetty]

first time in use but it works

[warped narwhal]

You're thinking of the route metric

[glass jetty]

wdym lul, it is what it means

[flint dome]

what am I missing here why is everyone toast now

[warped narwhal]

The slash is the prefix length

[glass jetty]

no one know

[flint dome]

@opaque wharf I think you'll like this one

[glass jetty]

it is submask length, there no such thing as prefix

[warped narwhal]

Different name for the same thing

/16 the is prefix for a subnet mask of 255.255.0.0

[tender river]

yes but only if you have both 0.0.0.0/1 and 128.0.0.0/1

[warped narwhal]

You're using specificity when you should be using route metrics

[glass jetty]

128.0.0.0/1 via 10.123.0.2 dev tun0
0.0.0.0/1 via 10.123.0.2 dev tun0

• reroute everything here

10.123.0.0/16 dev tun0 proto kernel scope link src 10.123.0.2

• idk why i not specify 10.123.0.1 here but it works, it getting route back
  -# (also that kind of happens automatically, i only do tun setup and assign address)

208.92.227.245 via 192.168.0.1 dev wlo1

• vpn server exception

what else
i mean that dup is really weird and that should go straight through main gateway

[glass jetty]

[sage crag]

#baking is the best channel

[warped narwhal]

Instead of 0.0.0.0/1 and 128.0.0.0/1, why don't you just use the default keyword?

[sage crag]

wrrr

[opaque wharf]

Lmao

Actual toast

Toasted gpu that is

[glass jetty]

because i not want to reverse default route too after each exit

[flint dome]

true culinary arts right there

[warped narwhal]

What do you mean by reverse the default route?

[opaque wharf]

I wonder what the mods are thinking about this one

[flint dome]

damn thing popcorned and flew into the ceiling too

first time I ever witnessed that in my life

[flint dome]

this is daily occurrence in genchat

[sage crag]

@real sierra

[warped frost]

I'm ruining the joke

[glass jetty]

because i heard that it is shit

[tidal shell]

Ain't no way

[glass jetty]

ai offered it but i replaced

[tidal shell]

Toad get back in gn

[flint dome]

why they didn't ban you from this server too is beyond me

[warped frost]

Toad toast toast toast

[opaque wharf]

I think it was because it is shorted at an internal pcb layer and the current blows it up

[warped narwhal]

From who lmao? It's literally there to do exactly what your trying to do

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324872678791975004/1486451477739470998/BA0787E2D73F28B11C5D8BF6AC8FF7B6.gif

not enough toast

[warped frost]

Fine...

[warped frost]

Soon...

[glass jetty]

from some one who work with networking as main job
idk i just use subnetwork why not
i not have to do anything with default replacement, i just use common ip priorety

[flint dome]

I did end up putting it under my microscope, looked pretty cool there though, since sillicon fries later than the metal

[flint dome]

fym soon haiyaahhhhh this is not a contest

[rough bloom]

[warped frost]

It will be

[opaque wharf]

Yeah. But I am still not sure how the current would result in explosion tho. FR4 are inert when burned so there shouldn't be any gas buildup

[glass jetty]

i just noticed that dups
there also issue with local dns server, maybe?
i have to restart time to time cuz it lose dns and dns only, ongoing connections work and pinging new ip too, but not any name resolve

[warped frost]

Helltaker pfp

[glass jetty]

did some one already meow on you?

[warped frost]

Too many people atp

[glass jetty]

ok, well,

[warped frost]

How haven't I met you yet

[flint dome]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-pleasespeedineedthis-bluelock-alexianess-ness-gif-3626231276399638908

[warped narwhal]

This entire thing can be written as

ip route add default via 10.123.0.1 metric 100
ip route add default via 192.168.0.1 metric 99
ip route add 123.0.0.0/16 via 10.123.0.1
ip route add 208.92.227.245/32 via 192.168.0.1 dev wlo1

[glass jetty]

what when i want to exit vpn?

[warped narwhal]

Remove the default via tun0

[flint dome]

not everyone is as unemployed as you toad

[glass jetty]

i not doing 10.123.0.0/16 route, it done by system itself

[opaque wharf]

Remove the french language pack protection flag!

[warped narwhal]

That will mean that you gave the tun0 the address 10.123.0.2/16

[warped frost]

Says you

Speaking of unemployment @shut sand

John unemployment right here

[flint dome]

dude im more sleepy than unemployed because of my meds

[glass jetty]

no that will not, it is route not address, you has to have address first
and there literally no reason to add route btw (i guess)

system already know that address <vpn_client> is one of interfaces

it not routing anywhere

[flint dome]

more like john dumbass who turned into a mr beast shill trying to download bg3

[warped narwhal]

When you give an interface an IP in Linux, Linux will create a route for all IPS the interface can reach

[glass jetty]

like what a deal? you just want it to be default instead of 2 networks with /1 submask?

[warped narwhal]

so if Linux is creating the route 10.123.0.0/16, then the tun0 interface has the IP 10.123.0.2/16

[warped frost]

I forgot that my double click is pregnant man and not omegalol

[warped narwhal]

I'm just saying you should use the methods designed to do what you want to do, instead of using a makeshift solution by taking advantage of how routing priorities work in linux

[warped narwhal]

This is why you should become toast

[glass jetty]

-# not relate to toast thing btw

[warped frost]

Never

[glass jetty]

[sage crag]

[tender river]

[glass jetty]

btw, i want to eat banana in ice-cream and fresh orange juice now

do any one tried it?

that takes some time to squeeze orange tho

[flint dome]

I am now banana

[shut sand]

times have changed buddy, i was never as unemployed as some people

namely jhon and just

[flint dome]

wassup mr beast

[shut sand]

fuc u

[warped frost]

just....

[opaque wharf]

Ehh, y know what. Fine. It'll be funny

[glass jetty]

shame on this guy btw

[flint dome]

that curse will follow you for as long as I know your dumb arse

[warped frost]

shame on him smh

[opaque wharf]

Yo

[shut sand]

vro hes been doing like, streaming lobcorp for 12 hours daily

it hasn't been 10 days and he has more han 100 hours in ajd finished it

MyHonestReaction

[flint dome]

damn did they lobotomise him this time fr

[warped frost]

i aint even beating him in my covid arc

[flint dome]

hi kompute hows it poppin

[shut sand]

exactly

[opaque wharf]

I swear if it wasn't for the profile pic I wouldn't know who is who lol

[warped frost]

but i think my most continuos playtime was 41

[flint dome]

maybe he should have stayed in the nuthouse more.... (this is a joke)

[flint dome]

yeah its getting very confusing now lul

[shut sand]

in the whar

[warped frost]

i might go to one soon

[shut sand]

tf is a nuthouse

[warped frost]

house for nuts

like you

[flint dome]

terrible slang for mental institution

[shut sand]

notDrake

[shut sand]

ISee

trud

[sage crag]

wrrr

[warped frost]

i need to find a new one

[flint dome]

hi wrrr

[shut sand]

grrr

[warped frost]

im banned from all of them

[sage crag]

hi toast

hi mr beast

[flint dome]

hi toast

[warped frost]

[flint dome]

@shut sand yeah no pack it up lol

[warped frost]

drain you play dredge right?

where do i find the exotic fishes

i have found the oarfish

[shut sand]

wtf its joever

even #programming folk are calling me mrbeadt

[warped frost]

mr bead

[shut sand]

theres no coming back from this

its JOEVER

[sage crag]

you sent it to me

[shut sand]

Mr bread

[sage crag]

[shut sand]

SUS

[warped frost]

drein a fatass so they named him mr feast

[shut sand]

MyHonestReaction

mods theyre off topic

[flint dome]

and

[shut sand]

pls euthanize them

[flint dome]

who cares

[shut sand]

ThankYou

[flint dome]

this is related

you got scammed

it is a lesson on not getting scammed

[sage crag]

[shut sand]

why tf is there 2 toasts

[shut sand]

where my pfp

[sage crag]

2

[sage crag]

compact mode

[shut sand]

ITrembleInFear

[flint dome]

there is a fucking cult of those now its not just 2

[shut sand]

theres more

[flint dome]

join the cult

[opaque wharf]

You bet

[shut sand]

Bedging

[sage crag]

at least this many

[rough bloom]

[warped frost]

i love cults

[opaque wharf]

Toast is not on the list

[flint dome]

hey thats my role im the sleeper your gig is the unemployed guy

[shut sand]

thats like more than 1 I think

[opaque wharf]

@olive sable

[warped frost]

i dont have a toast form

[shut sand]

le toast

[warped frost]

unless le_toast or something

fu

[shut sand]

bitch

MyHonestReaction

cant even read

[warped frost]

why do we always say the same thing

[olive sable]

[warped frost]

i type slow

fuck you

[flint dome]

doomed yaoi

[warped frost]

also drain answer

[warped frost]

drown

[glass jetty]

at least 10 toast

[warped frost]

answer my question

[opaque wharf]

You're not on this list @olive sable

[maiden geyser]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/671211728968744980/1028258145157513216/togif-1.gif

[glass jetty]

cuz that least was fake

[olive sable]

Im watching frieren rn, il respond later

[warped frost]

who even are you

[sage crag]

wrr

[glass jetty]

not banana nor toast

[maiden geyser]

literal who nophono

[sage crag]

[warped frost]

dude are you like only from programming

[flint dome]

am I wrong though

[warped frost]

yes

you are wrong

[flint dome]

:falsege:

[shut sand]

idr dredg

that was like

covid?

[glass jetty]

there a lot of not toasts btw

[shut sand]

so long ago

TheEndIsNear

[glass jetty]

yeah 6 years ago

or 7

[shut sand]

due

[warped narwhal]

We should change this fact

[shut sand]

ReallyGunShoot

[warped frost]

67

[glass jetty]

THE

[shut sand]

we should change the fact that im in programming

why did I even cone here

[glass jetty]

[shut sand]

oh yea some rando @ed me

[warped frost]

we should change the fact that you're in discord

dinkdonk

[warped frost]

ikr

the rando seems cool

[shut sand]

trud im going back to reading the hit light novel re zero bye the hit author tappei I forgor his name

[glass jetty]

what is this sentence

[warped frost]

ew

[shut sand]

neuroLeave

[warped frost]

i might not be new

erm

wtf

[shut sand]

new leafs these days DAMN

[maiden geyser]

the 80k msg sprout situation is INSANE

[glass jetty]

are you ai?

[maiden geyser]

still newer than me

[warped frost]

beep boop meow

[warped frost]

don

[fiery canopy]

my discord is using 13 gigabytes of ram da hell

[warped frost]

be toasr

toast

it do be like that

[fiery canopy]

It usually takes like 2 days

[glass jetty]

anyway, no one getting even close to this

[fiery canopy]

I restarted my discord 30 minutes ago

😭

[glass jetty]

linux client be like

they did it horribly wrong

use web

[fiery canopy]

I am just gonna go back to vesktop

I tried the base for reactive to function

[warped frost]

...

[fiery canopy]

Now on vesktop and my pc will no longer having my ram forcefully removed

[sage crag]

oo check me

[tender river]

quite a bit ahead of me now

[kind nimbus]

I'm currently happy with Equibop. But Vesktop is also good.

Just don't use the official discord client lol.

[glad path]

what is verb coding

[fiery canopy]

I had it open soley for discord reactive lol, and also iv not actually hear of quibop

equibop

I will probably check it out

[glass jetty]

vibe-mathing

[opaque wharf]

It feels like many open source tools are stepping up as better and better alternative

I like this trend

[glass jetty]

there was not open source tools?

gn

[stark needle]

pov shiro responding to happy birthdays

[proven merlin]

Im aware, that was the joke-

[kind nimbus]

Nothing to do with ai tho

It's just misinformation on purpose

[real sierra]

everyone seems to be toast suddenly

[stark needle]

wtf

the dgx spark cpu is overpowered as fuck

in geekbench it gets the same score as a i9-13900k

i thought it was a shitty arm cpu like a raspberry pi

in other benchmarks it's roughly like a i7-14700k

[olive sable]

[glad path]

why are there so many toasts

[trim valve]

I'd be mad as hell if my £3500 ai cube had a raspberry pi grade cpu

[nocturne olive]

Definitely that alone won't make it worth its price tho

[sage crag]

shr not toast

[real sierra]

shir bread not exist

no bread no toast

[sage crag]

happy bread day

[tender river]

you can make it

with oven

[stark needle]

tbf even as a cpu box it's good

it has 10gbe, 13900k cpu perf and 128gb ram

[nocturne olive]

It's also ARM isn't it?