programming

[rough bloom]

[chrome rampart]

happy birthday, silly!

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

🎂

[sage crag]

hapy spoon

[sage crag]

hapy dent

[rigid snow]

not dent it chip slot

they had to remove chip in hopital

it rot

leave slot

[true hemlock]

inductors i think

how tf did you managed to cook an inductor wtf

damn 280 for a pi though

im still baffled with how tf the inductor burned but not the controller chip or mosfet

[amber fractal]

Happy birthday

[shrewd cloak]

happy birthday

[sage crag]

happy birthday iggly

[sage crag]

happy birthday kuhaku

[wheat coral]

Victory is mine! I have forced a Local Admin account instead of an online microsoft one at install for Win11.

[fickle rain]

Autounattend solves this

[unkempt citrus]

not installing win11 also solves this

[azure lynx]

now just ignore the "Microsoft account problem: Select here to sign into your Microsoft account" notifications for the rest of time. but other than that it works well.

[azure lynx]

The problem with that is you won't have Windows 11.

[wheat coral]

client's specs required Win 11, I've turned off most of their stupid upsell notifications.

[sick owl]

Alarming that a single model managed to spark this much mental illness

[nocturne olive]

Until Microslop permanently disables local account login to enforce age verification

[wispy pike]

every computer I have in the future will be linux

no more of this microslop as long as this is what we get out of it

[sick owl]

Make sure you go AMD if so

[nocturne olive]

Just go AMD in general if you're just gaming and don't need CUDA

[sick owl]

Eeeeh

DLSS 3-4 is kind of a big deal

FSR4 is good but its not nearly as good and you still suffer in RT

[nocturne olive]

Eh, DLSS is a thing
But you also don't really want to rely on DLSS

I use DLSS but I can get good performance without it too

[sick owl]

I dunno, DLSS 4 Quality is pretty indistinguishable from native 4K

Other than slightly larger RT noise speckles in games where that's an issue

[nocturne olive]

In Factory games DLSS is extremely obvious

Even with the quality preset conveyor belts become a blur

[sick owl]

Is that DLSS 4 though

Doesn't sound like it to me

[nocturne olive]

I don't know, I'm running a 4070Ti

It happens in Satisfactory and Hydroneer

[warped narwhal]

why do they care so much about specifically o4?

[opaque sigil]

it's the first useful model that will glaze you super hard

[rough bloom]

will make shit up and tell you whatever you want to hear, regardless of how accurate

turns out that people want this

[true hemlock]

funny how i never even used it

[true hemlock]

properly setup screening >> generic 4K monitor

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

The controller chip might also be cooked

DNS issue again

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

netstat showed a single UDP

i already restarted my pc to fix it

[rough bloom]

surely this is a DHCP issue

there's no way it's not a DHCP issue

[olive sable]

[rough bloom]

do ip a next time, see if you still have an address

but why is it a timeout then

surely you don't have another default route

[olive sable]

hdcp is the server thingy that asigns the ip adresses right?

[rough bloom]

DHCP but ye

[olive sable]

i think we have a wifi extender that had issues with trying to take control of that

[rough bloom]

default route changed to something stupid then mabe

[olive sable]

most of the time i booted the pi it went to 192.168.129.194 but sometimes it went to192.168.4.2
the 129 worked with ssh, but the one with 4 didnt want to ssh

[rough bloom]

in that case, next time it fails do ping 1.1.1.1, ip a, and ip r

[rough bloom]

yeah that is very

not good

[olive sable]

[rough bloom]

as a workaround you can turn off the DHCP client and manually assign a free IP and add the proper default route

but that gets annoying quickly

[sick owl]

Hear me out, you can also set up a 4K monitor properly

[warped narwhal]

you should try to assign either a static lease or just set a static ip instead

[rough bloom]

better to just kill that rogue DHCP server

[olive sable]

the DHCP server went rogue

can i just unplug it?

[rough bloom]

permanently, yes

[sick owl]

4o not o4, and the answer is unironically AI psychosis

It glazed people so hard they tricked themselves into thinking its their sentient AI cyber waifu

[sick owl]

Yeah those games use DLSS 3

You can upgrade them through the nvidia app override or by swapping the DLL

[nocturne olive]

There's no "Nvidia app"

[sick owl]

Actually hydroneer uses DLSS 2 lol

[sick owl]

Oh are you on linux

In that case swap the DLL

[nocturne olive]

Obviously

I can't be bothered

[sick owl]

Its like a two minute job for a permanent image quality buff

[true hemlock]

4k is overrated ngl

lots of other important factors

panel type, ppi

also would rather multiple 2k than a 4k for same price

[nocturne olive]

I don't even know where to find such DLL

[opaque sigil]

PROTON_DLSS_UPGRADE=1 with proton ge and done

[nocturne olive]

Hem

[sick owl]

I'd rather one 4k OLED personally just because of the insane sharpness/clarity

[nocturne olive]

Proton GE? I don't think I have that installed

[sick owl]

Definitely worth grabbing, it has lots of nice to haves compared to the main branch

[amber fractal]

I'd rather take one of those dual mode displays with 4k and 1080p

[nocturne olive]

Well I sure don't know how to install it

[true hemlock]

rather build 8k with bunch of barebones oled panels

for cheaper

[sick owl]

https://github.com/gloriouseggroll/proton-ge-custom?tab=readme-ov-file#installation

Install instructions on the repo

[true hemlock]

ngl i wanna do this just got no space for it

[sick owl]

Then you just set it as your compatibility layer in steam settings for a game

[sick owl]

I wouldn't go that far

[true hemlock]

unless if i replaced my home theater

[true hemlock]

oh i totally would

[sick owl]

4k is the sweetspot at my preferred monitor size of 27 inches imo

[opaque sigil]

there's also protonup-qt which is quite simple

[true hemlock]

diy is fun and cheaper

[true hemlock]

27 INCHES???

[sick owl]

Yup

[amber fractal]

This meme is the reason I have 4 4k portable displays

[true hemlock]

hell no

[sick owl]

I like my monitor medium sized

And also have a shallow desk

[olive sable]

i like buying a single transistor, actually 0.21 euro part, and they want 25 euro delivery

[true hemlock]

2k and 4k has no difference on 27 inch

wtf

[sick owl]

That's cap, we're talking about 163 PPI vs 108-109

That's a pretty big difference in clarity

[true hemlock]

till you realize its small enough the visibility is barely any different

also lemme do math

[sick owl]

1080p is 81ppi at 27 inch to put that into perspective

[amber fractal]

The ideal ratios depend on the ideal person

[sick owl]

Also 1440p monitors are kinda fucked up for media consumption and productivity

[rough bloom]

better to buy in bulk
if it's not an uncommon part then it's probably part of some kit you can buy

-# 25€ still crazy though

[true hemlock]

at least 32inch for 4k imo

27 is yuck

[sick owl]

Stuff doesn't scale evenly, its like the black sheep/red headed stepchild between 1080 and 4k

[true hemlock]

rather get 2k for way cheaper

[olive sable]

0.47 µH, 3A, shieleded SMD

[true hemlock]

that seems more like config issues

[amber fractal]

For my 15.6 inch 4k bois I tend to have them very close so I appericate the res

[sick owl]

32 inch is too big imo and the jump in clarity from 1440/27 is way lower

[sick owl]

4K is 2x the pixel count of 1080, 1440p is 1.5x

[true hemlock]

big screen are fuckin nice wdym

[sick owl]

Stuff literally mathematically does not scale evenly

[true hemlock]

i know, not that it matters scaling shouldn't be an issue

[sick owl]

Given most content is mastered for 1080 or 4k

[amber fractal]

If I decide I want frames, I usually just downscale and let the monitor accept more frames

[true hemlock]

1080p isn't a baseline

there isn't any resolution baseline for scaling

[sick owl]

It is pretty commonly regarded as the modern baseline

[true hemlock]

if scaling at 2k is an issue you probably didn't rendered something in native resolution

and instead did some wacky scaling shi

[sick owl]

I'm talking about video content here

[true hemlock]

yeah

isn't there like a lot of 2k standards for video now

[sick owl]

Not really no

[true hemlock]

how

[amber fractal]

2k TVs never really existed

[sick owl]

Video is mastered according to the industry standard set by TVs ^

[true hemlock]

[sick owl]

That's why even though PC monitors are often SRGB Rec.709 is the standard for SDR video

[true hemlock]

ig its time for me to diy a 4k

with bunch of 1080p panels

[amber fractal]

good luck with the OS overhead

[true hemlock]

how much is a 4k monitor

[sick owl]

Depends on the panel tech

[amber fractal]

not bad actually

[sick owl]

If you don't care about OLED 4K IPS is the price of 1440p a few years back

[true hemlock]

custom edisplay port board ig

[sick owl]

OLED is pricey but not as insane as it used to be

[true hemlock]

i can get 1080p120 barebone oled panels for like

$40

though by e dp protocol

ez

actually you know what

[amber fractal]

Might go higher, portable bois I have clock higher

I've seen 217hz before limited by pretty sure typec

for the oleds, those bois had a refresh time of 1ms; hence why it was attempted

[true hemlock]

oh sure

actually

i have decided

i want a 16K diy tv

[amber fractal]

[sick owl]

4K IPS brand new is like $200

Second hand is even cheaper if you want a good refresh rate

[true hemlock]

the 1080p120 oled panels are like 16"

[amber fractal]

My version of this project was going to include touch versions so I can have a giant digital whiteboard

[true hemlock]

so ig imma have 16K 64"

[true hemlock]

just get a digitizer

ez

they're affordable

i use them on my new briefcase build

god

[amber fractal]

what refresh rate are you targeting? seems like cables currently are limited to 16k30

[olive sable]

monitors still have ugly bezels, get a 8K projecotr and make it do pixelshifting

[true hemlock]

my kid self used to think touch screen are like the most futuristic complicated tech ever

the realization

is devastating

[sick owl]

My top end 240hz 4K QD-OLED with insane pixel density at 27 inches was like $450 USD

[true hemlock]

touch digitizer are so damn simple

[sick owl]

32 inch is cheaper

[true hemlock]

wtf surprisingly affordable?

i thought they're like $800+

[sick owl]

Yeah prices have come way down for OLEDs

[true hemlock]

hm

aight

so

[sick owl]

You'd have been right three years or so back

[amber fractal]

16k120hz would be funny for the build

[true hemlock]

16K 64"

[true hemlock]

plan to just use multiple gpu lol

[amber fractal]

100%

I'm just curious on where your going to go in terms on minmaxing. Either try and force every pannel as high as they can go and pick lowest useful or just going to play it safe

[fickle rain]

Are they p*ntile 🤢

[true hemlock]

so i need like 16 of those panels

[amber fractal]

16 is the 4k pannel number

[true hemlock]

i mean

[amber fractal]

64 1080p bois

[true hemlock]

fuck

so i guess its actually just

8k 64"

$640

[amber fractal]

not the worst

[true hemlock]

cheaper than tv

still

also oled

also 120Hz

touch digitizer are also cheap

can get each for $12

[amber fractal]

120Hz and possibly higher depending on how high you want to attempt

[trim valve]

with frame sync or?

[true hemlock]

+$192

[trim valve]

ig it's not so bad at 120hz

[true hemlock]

world best TV for $832

the rest of the hardware... i already have it

there's like at least 20 GPUs in my shelves now

from 3080Ti down to 980Ti

i have bifurcation capable board

actually

might use that one pretty board i have

though its like, 7th gen intel

but its so pretty

• high end chipset, built in raid 5

ya know what i wanna another home server

[rough bloom]

wouldn't you want Quadro Sync for this

also what about bezel

[true hemlock]

hm

haven't used that

is it like

only for quadro cards

or it also works on consumer cards

[rough bloom]

ye

[true hemlock]

i

[rough bloom]

also needs special sync card thing if you're using it with more than one GPU I think?

[true hemlock]

okay-

i need to check with my friend if they still have bunch of quadro M6000

because i have one

and only one

wait fck

4k tv are somewhat affordable now

[rough bloom]

gonna be cheaper to stitch some 4k TVs together?

[true hemlock]

nah

just the pricing are way lower than i thought

but the 16 1080p panels are still cheaper if you wanna diy an 8k

• touch digitizer

wait

those things are also pretty thin

what if

[sage crag]

;

[true hemlock]

i make it like

[sage crag]

wrr

[true hemlock]

uh

foldable

modular

[amber fractal]

[true hemlock]

i was having some crazy fuck ideas where i can just fold it in my backpack with diy arm mounting

and i can bring an 8k everywhere i go

use it like uhh, example i wanna do a presentation

ah

what if

i make my new briefcase modular

so i can also mount it on my back and the monitor can be pulled to front

[sage crag]

why is 🫪 a character

[amber fractal]

Just checking for your sanity, do the pannels that your checking for have a 4k option. Might be cheaper than you though and can get the 16k meme build after all

[true hemlock]

yeah but roughly quadruple price

and 24"

[olive sable]

🫪

[warped narwhal]

;?

[sage crag]

n

see plus plus

smaller asm than c

[opaque sigil]

[nocturne olive]

Well the conveyor belts still look like mush

[opaque sigil]

is that with the dlss upgrade env variable

[nocturne olive]

I think so

[opaque sigil]

unlucky then I guess

[fast pagoda]

my mini has nobara on it which is this guy's distro

i like his warning about the upcoming pascal deprecation

[opaque sigil]

if you're ever unsure which dlss version is used there is also PROTON_DLSS_INDICATOR=1 but the overlay is borderline invisible on dark backgrounds

[olive sable]

im cutting my losses on the pi, removing the inductor i see some smaller resistors are also damaged and stuff.
and for the outrageous shipping prices they're giving me, im jsut gonna get a new pi instead

[opaque sigil]

[opaque sigil]

better image, idk why i decided to take a screenshot on the black title screen

[olive sable]

ill get another rk3588 i guess, maybe one with less ram this time

i got the 16gb one cuz it was a good deal at the time

[nocturne olive]

By the way how goes getting that PC with a 3090 in it that I wanted to buy?

[olive sable]

i ordered it, nothing heard back yet

[nocturne olive]

I see

[turbid meadow]

Can I dump some Assembly code here?

[olive sable]

i guess

ye

[silent cloak]

Just for fun

[queen ginkgo]

my poor gtx 1060 😢

[olive sable]

hmmm

i could get a cheaper pi with rk3588

but then id lose that money by needing to buy a different heatsink

[high brook]

A 1060 in this year of our lord 2026? My god man

[olive sable]

its only 10 years old

[high brook]

Less the age and more the performance. It was shit at lunch lol

[queen ginkgo]

10 year old GPU on my 7 year old PC

it was only 3 years old when I built this thing so

[high brook]

At least its the 6 gb version

There was also a 3gb version

My 1070 lasted me until last year when I upgraded to a 3060.

Gave the 1070 to a buddy stuck on an old r540

[queen ginkgo]

yeah the PC I had before this one was an AMD Bulldozer with an r7 240

wait no bulldozer

vishera/piledriver

[high brook]

Recently I got a 5060ti but I dont really game on it. Its mostly been used for ML stuff. I still game on the 3060 lmao

[olive sable]

did much chane from 3060 to 5060ti?

i remember people saying the 4060ti was worse than the 3060ti

[high brook]

5060ti has 4 gb more vram at 16 and is quite a bit faster.

4060ti was laughed at because its performance was laughable and had 12gb vram

[fast pagoda]

in the running for most dogwater cpu lineage of all time

bulldozer and everything related to it

maybe not even in the running i'm not sure if anything else comes close tbh

[olive sable]

ive never hear dof that cpu architecture

[fast pagoda]

phenom II -> bulldozer is one of the biggest drops in sentiment ever

it has to be

phenom II was a good budget pick, it wasnt faster than nehalem (the original i7s) but it was way cheaper for more cores, you could also often unlock the cheaper ones from like 2 to 4 core with decent success rate

then intel put out sandy bridge

which was quite good and quite spency

[high brook]

Sadly it not only lead to garbage amd cpus it lead to 10 years of 5% better quad cores from Intel

[fast pagoda]

yep

god

i had a 4770k for so fucking long

it took until ryzen 5000 until i finally considered it worth upgrading

because amd was in such deep shit

they couldnt compete at all

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

and so intel was just sitting there barely improving

because they didnt have to

[high brook]

I didnt upgrade my 6400 until zen plus

[fast pagoda]

i went 4770k -> 5900x

[high brook]

2700x

[olive sable]

ryzen 3000 was okay from what i remember, but 5000 solidified their current position i think

[high brook]

I adopted ryzen pretty early

[fast pagoda]

ryzen 1000/2000/3000 were good, just not quite able to overtake intel in like single core/gaming type stuff

[high brook]

I saw the potential. I knew amd was making a comeback, but nobody believed me

[olive sable]

maybe its cuz im only looking at amd's flagships with too many core for good single core speed. but i feel like intel is still slightly better for single core

[fast pagoda]

intel has a better memory controller

[high brook]

Yeah amd always fell behind 8n single core, but with 2000 series it was less than 10%

[fast pagoda]

yeah by the time you hit 3000, buying intel was only a single core or gaming buy

then x3d put amd ahead for gaming and such

chiplet design made scaling much easier for amd

which is why they have had more cores in mainstream parts

zen5 and lion's cove (core ultra 200) are pretty well matched in a lot of places

the new 250k and 270k are genuinely good

intel is kinda in an amd ryzen spot atm where amd is still king in like gaming shit due to x3d

but these new parts are scary a bit for amd

250k beats 9950x3d in some productivity multicore type workloads from what i've seen

mainly because it's got 18 cores

12 of them are E-Cores of course but

and intel still gets higher ddr5 speeds even though zen5 mem controller is in a muuuuuuuuuuuuuuch better place than previous

zen5 dram latency is better than lions cove in many ways

doesnt have higher overall speeds though

intel had better single core for a long time but now with zen5 it's gone around, intel historically had better branch prediction which would lower misprediction rate and thus lower the amount of times the pipeline must be flushed to restart

but zen5 has 2ahead now which is cool

i wish pentium4 had worked out better just so that i could see absurd branch prediction pipelines irl

netburst had a 31 stage pipeline lmao

that was prescott

tejas which was supposed to succeed it had 40

they were trying to hit 7ghz with that joint

150w tdp on one core lmao

pre-7ghz, would've been like 250w tdp for one single core at their speed target

world would be interesting with a bunch of 30 ghz single cores like intel had thought was gonna happen at one point, they really unironically thought the norm would be like 10ghz+ single cores in the 2010s

dennard scaling

[amber fractal]

tbf the wall was unknown at the time

[fast pagoda]

yeah

transistors got too smol

turns out you leak current

voltage cant keep going down with size

[amber fractal]

In a english/numerical stance, I am suprised the wall happens to be at 10GHz

Can never get to the round number

[olive sable]

im geussing they're jsut calling it 10 because its close enough

[fast pagoda]

it basically is

[amber fractal]

WR is at 9.8 with previous best being at 9.7ish

[fast pagoda]

a few things happen at 10ghz

10ghz is fast enough that you cant really reliably ensure your clock signal is reaching every part of the chip on time

if you have a large enough chip

you "can" but not without pain

[olive sable]

the world's physics engine runs at 10ghz

[fast pagoda]

the relationship between frequency and power/current required is roughly a cubic scaling

so 5ghz -> 10ghz is not 2 times power but more like

[amber fractal]

Seems like paired chiplets with seperate clocks similar to the new DDR5 chips are forced

[fast pagoda]

8 times

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

it's kinda a silicon cmos issue

[olive sable]

that means there is also an optimal frequency

[amber fractal]

I'm guessing that is the 5Ghz the server chips are running at

Unless you are ARM chips and somehow have a lot less power draw regardless

[fast pagoda]

yeah about 5ghz seems to be the practical sweet spot atm

since it's cubic it starts scaling into the stratosphere beyond that

[amber fractal]

I do actually know why don't @ me

[fast pagoda]

power and heat become le problemme

you can get higher than 10ghz switching speeds

but not in cmos designs atm

bipolar silicon/germanium units are often out here in the hundreds of Ghz

[olive sable]

if power required really is equal to frequency^2
then power required/clock speed becomes f^2/f = f

so the higher the frequency, the higher the power to performance

[amber fractal]

It's a triangle

[olive sable]

so im guessing its more nuanced than just power = freq^2

[amber fractal]

there is also more heat per heat

[fast pagoda]

it's P = α * C * V^2 * f

activity factor (fraction of transistors switching on a given clock)

that's 0to1

[olive sable]

i see

P is in wats, and V is the voltage?

[fast pagoda]

P is watts yep

C is capacitance (farads)

v voltage, f frequency

and the watts P is dissipation

[high brook]

Amd is shooting for 7 ghz next gen

[fast pagoda]

nanomachines son

[amber fractal]

Nuking intel's only hold on the market

[fast pagoda]

oh shit

the triangle is powerful

[high brook]

We're already measuring in A. We're nearly sub nanometer

[fast pagoda]

me

[olive sable]

🔻

[high brook]

Triangle strongest shap

[fast pagoda]

yeah 18a is basically 1.8nm by previous "system"

18 angstroms

[olive sable]

i see

[fast pagoda]

although the nm scale given in marketing is not actually a physical measurement of much of anything btw

it's now "competitive position"

[high brook]

Hasn't been since the mod 90s

[olive sable]

i guess heat is the issue, since intel could just build a powerplant if they wanted 20 million watts to go to 600GHz

[fast pagoda]

well the problem is that you just cant dissipate the heat

[amber fractal]

Time for a new sun

[fast pagoda]

like it's just impossible

[high brook]

Yeahhh.... 12th and 13th gen wre literally burning out

[fast pagoda]

the 9+ ghz runs overclocking required ln2

probably helium actually

[amber fractal]

helium yep

[olive sable]

heat transfer becomes more effcicient when the delta is higher

[high brook]

The ringbus was having too much

Handling

[olive sable]

so use a semiconductar that can hadnel higher heat i guess?

[amber fractal]

Into the slab it goes

[fast pagoda]

in those ultra high runs they had to cool the cpu with liquid helium and then they had to also warm up the mobo at the same time

because if you go down too cold you start getting coldbugs

[high brook]

Silicon isnt the best semiconductor, its just the cheapest and most plentiful

[olive sable]

Diamond
is currently the semiconductor with the highest heat tolerance, capable of operating at temperatures exceeding 800C
due to its exceptional thermal stability and conductivity. It is followed by wide-bandgap materials like Silicon Carbide (750C) and Gallium Nitride (500C)

[fast pagoda]

big part of it is the process of being able to grow silicon

[olive sable]

when can i get daimond cpu?

[fast pagoda]

Czochralski method

[amber fractal]

Whenever we can actually grow the diamonds

[fast pagoda]

that method allows you to grow a huge ingot which is actually a single monocrystal

[amber fractal]

Man I want the diamond slab jewelry next level from CPU keychain

[fast pagoda]

1 crystal llattice, continuous

[olive sable]

you need to make sure you can get negative and positive parts in the semiconductor, and daimond is too resistant to doping it seems

also jsaut a high cost, but thats not an issue for big tech

[fast pagoda]

well, cost is actually a huge issue for big tech

[amber fractal]

There is also the method of inner chip heatsink

[olive sable]

thats an issue for the shareholders

[fast pagoda]

asianometry viewers will know

germaniun OG

bandgap too narrow sadge

so it bleeds power

[amber fractal]

That's where I learned this one from

[fast pagoda]

i love asianometry man

germanium is still used as i mentioned earlier with SiGe but it's not used as the bulk semiconductor anymore

gallium arsenide is a meme for a long time because it has better electron mobility

[olive sable]

isnt gallium nitride getting used a lot more these days?

[fast pagoda]

but it's fragile and has high defect rates

GaN yeah, wider bandgap than silicon, but expensive, harder to process than sillycon, worse ecosystem for manufacturing

[olive sable]

i know its used a lot for chargers

[fast pagoda]

very VERY expensive to grow GaN, usually it's grown on other substrate

[fast pagoda]

yeah thanks to the bandgap mainly

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

can handle stronger fields without problems

also very high electron mobility

[olive sable]

hmmm

should i rewatch sao?

i need some slop to watch while i eat

[amber fractal]

[fast pagoda]

Every time i try that I watch the first part of aincrad and then get to the middle part and wish for death

[olive sable]

that is prob the most yikes part of the entire anime

[amber fractal]

The site I use doesn't even have the 4th season

(Same as what Sam uses

[fast pagoda]

that and the elf part with the creepy guyh

[olive sable]

i like alicization.

[amber fractal]

We love the last 3 eps with the antagonist

[fast pagoda]

ggo was fun for a while, my wow hunter was named sinon for a while

[olive sable]

the fact that alecization is the one where the mc is a vegetable for half of it speaks volumes about the anime as a whole

[amber fractal]

True

[olive sable]

ggo was cool but i got sick of it quickly

[amber fractal]

haven't watched the second season

[fast pagoda]

i dont like Eugeo so alicization hurts

[amber fractal]

I honestly liked him as one of the few dudes

[olive sable]

there is a new sao movie coming out

[olive sable]

ye but ||he fucking dies at the end|| so its peak

[fast pagoda]

anything that majorly reboots the setting like alicization throws me off and makes me instantly dislike every character

even tho it's not really a reboot

[olive sable]

i like the twist of the mc not being aware he's in a simualtion

[fast pagoda]

i dont cuz it's not the same thing as the previous 3 seasons >:(

give me more slop please

[olive sable]

jsut watch the first season again if you want the same shit

[fast pagoda]

i do lmfao

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

I mostly just enjoyed the new world I was placed into, the character arc of finally committing the most important crime midway through the 3rd season.

[fast pagoda]

i have this thing where i get assmad if anything different than the status quo starts happening in any series

im like

where same thing

that's why im watching

want same thing

[amber fractal]

For no particular reason, how are you vibing with shield hero?

[olive sable]

nah, multiple actually. they keep pumping them out for some reason

one this july, and one that only got announced

[fast pagoda]

havent watched although i did add the manga to neko

but it's a LN base story

[amber fractal]

IIRC the manga realized the skill issue and is going floor by floor

[olive sable]

the manga is stil in aincrad?

[amber fractal]

There is a rewrite still in aincrad

[fast pagoda]

yes progressive

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

that's good shit

because it's

same thing

:^)

[olive sable]

funyun has the hyperautism

[fast pagoda]

it's a devastating affliction

[amber fractal]

I'm reading the light novel and oh boy, that world is going far

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

uniform

[fast pagoda]

is the light novel translated well

i have been reading through all of konosuba light novels lmao

[amber fractal]

I forget what it's translation is, haven't seen many english issues in it

[fast pagoda]

are you reading it in fucking japanese

[olive sable]

2012 is ages ago

damn

[fast pagoda]

i started playing wow again cuz of sao when it came out lmao

which directly lead me here really

wow addons lead me back to programming after losing interest in the minecraft years of 2009-2011

[olive sable]

thats fair

[amber fractal]

I was checking if it was some separate from original author but that was stupid because you can literally buy the english versions in paper

[fast pagoda]

oh you mean like someone taking hella liberty with it

[amber fractal]

Yep, but seems like it is just offical

[olive sable]

original sao is kinda bothersome to get through, i might jsut start at alicization

[fast pagoda]

progressive has movies

which is pog

[amber fractal]

flashbang yourself by going through the last eps of seasons 1 and 2 first

[fast pagoda]

Aria of a Starless Night is based on progressive

so is scherzo of deep night

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

palette cleanser

[olive sable]

i jsut hope there wont be too much overlap

[fast pagoda]

it's not

aria is mainly asuna's pov

[amber fractal]

Considering season 1 had a "Draw the rest of the owl" in terms of pacing as well

[fast pagoda]

it's a ton of 1st floor stuff that got skipped

schzero is 5th floor (and 4th)

[olive sable]

they could have made aincrad 200 epsiodes easily if they wanted to

[fast pagoda]

progressive is on tank 9

well

volume 9

it's a ln

[amber fractal]

tank

[olive sable]

and 2 episodes per floor iss till not a lot

[amber fractal]

we love tanks in a fantasy world

[fast pagoda]

i like to call tankoubons tanks lmao

even tho technically a ln could be tankoubon most people mean collections of manga for that in western terms i think

it's just a format

ln are usually bunkoubon

[amber fractal]

[fast pagoda]

tanko being larger better for images, 13x18cm

ln 11x15cm for bunko

[glad path]

hi

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324872678791975004/1486451477739470998/BA0787E2D73F28B11C5D8BF6AC8FF7B6.gif

[olive sable]

konii

not birthday anymore

also, goodmorning

[half venture]

Print ("Hello, world!")

Yes.

👌

[olive sable]

lowercase p

[half venture]

print ("Hello, bitch!")

Nah yeah, it's perfect.

👌

[olive sable]

[jagged turtle]

it's so joever

[olive sable]

the fuck

you're forwarding that form swarm wplace?

[jagged turtle]

yea and

[olive sable]

i like how at the bottom they're also asking for money

i cant wait for kids to get traumatized by the scratch LLM acting up

[silent island]

what in the actual fuckk???

atp, scratch peaked with 2
3 kinda felt baby ish and too colorful for sum reason

[oblique verge]

i hate this timeline

[fast pagoda]

gimp is the wost piece of software in history

gimp may be the worst thing about using linux, not that it's required, but it is very common

nobody who has ever designed any usable UI has ever touched gimp

in terms of being responsible for its ui

which is the most dogshit interface ever created

sinister in that it seems vaguely similar to every other image editor UI ever created

but sneakily just upends convention at random in places designed scientifically to be as irritating as possible

simple things that take 1 second in any other image editor including ms paint are 346 actions away in gimp

gimp is the single worst thing to ever be released and that includes microsoft copilot

i hate gimp

[olive sable]

i was misreading that as grimp

[fast pagoda]

kek

[olive sable]

so i was wondering what the hell a grimp is

[fast pagoda]

grimp is aight

idk if ther eis a grimp

but for some reason

i'm picturing grimace from mcdonalds

grimp

[olive sable]

seems fair

grimp is a name that has the smae energy

[fast pagoda]

googled smae and received the obvious correct answer

Sailor Moon Awards Engine

https://tenor.com/view/drake-gif-21364892

[olive sable]

wait

im not finding that with smae, i get some institute for foot health in the UK

[potent birch]

I think bro is misreading this or I'm wrong idk https://fixupx.com/_kaivara_/status/2037714665652863045?t=MYqonUXtiyz0TqVKzvG0JQ&s=19

Kai 🇨🇦 (@_kaivara_)

GIVE ME YOUR ATTENTION FOR LIKE 5 SECONDS
︀︀
︀︀GITHUB IS GONNA START USING *YOUR* CODE AND DATA TO TRAIN AI USING COPILOT!!!!!!!!!!!
︀︀
︀︀DISABLE IT AT github.com/settings/copilot/features

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FixupX · Mar 28, 2026, 2:13 AM

[silent island]

istg imma fume if ts intentional...

[fast pagoda]

I thought this was present forever

And is opt-in (why would you opt in, I have no idea)

I should opt in so the model learns from all my dogshit private repos

[olive sable]

its not opt in

its opt out

[fast pagoda]

Seems cap unless they changed it recently

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

I remember a similar option forever I feel like people would've freaked out a long time ago

Oh

Seems toast already had the same series of reactions I am rn

Lmao

That does specify it's copilot interactions

That kind of thing is typically opt out already everywhere else

I guess idk what they consider a copilot interaction

Does that mean like using a suggestion or specifically directing something in the chat mode or like pushing a commit to git that is then glanced at by copilot

Or like having tab completions at all if copilot completions are enabled

At least I guess they said anything instead of just changing it and not sayign what changed

[olive sable]

i think legally any interaction counts

so they are allowed for suggestions probably

if they will is something else

[umbral wigeon]

3 years of exps in programming: Googling and searching faster

(Real)

[fickle rain]

I mean if anything it’s gonna decrease the produced code quality

So I should be keeping it opted in

[umbral wigeon]

I think github just trying to make AI more genius by feeding them source code

[azure lynx]

opt out if you don't want it to be your code's fault the AI sucks.

nobody should learn how to write code by reading mine.

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

i feel like a lot of people say that

but most people's code here is not actually that bad

there are only a couple of really outrageous code things ive seen in this channel so far

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

konii, your's is

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

especially that jit thing from 2 days ago or so

[sage crag]

have you seen my latest code abomination

[olive sable]

probably not

i haven't been writing much code lately. last 2 weeks ive mostly just been suffering at the expense of my wallet

[sage crag]

multitasking vm

[olive sable]

what does that mean?

[sage crag]

hang on

[sage crag]

short ver

[olive sable]

i see

[sage crag]

it

vm

but

it run multiple programs

[olive sable]

so its kinda async?

[sage crag]

ye

[olive sable]

thats pretty cool ngl

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1426254498678046750.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf&lossless=true

[sage crag]

its pretty fast as well

naturally

i only write fast things

[olive sable]

id imagine when compiled it doesnt use much code either

[sage crag]

but if i make it noreturn it can go down to 26 instructions

[olive sable]

read that as "nore turn" first time

[sage crag]

vzeroupper

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

*13th and 14th
12th is unaffected

[rigid snow]

konii writing vm

shocker

[sage crag]

who coulda thunk

thunk

ye thunks

[olive sable]

thunk

[nocturne olive]

Wispers when he realizes the thing I told him was true

[rigid snow]

thunk tunk tunk

[nocturne olive]

The whole point of not just pushing out BETAMD but instead going for another version batch resulting in NeuroSynth 1 was specifically tuning tolerance

And the tuning tolerance on NeuroSynth 1 is wild

[rigid snow]

can you really not just schedule service restarts right in the service file in systemd you have to create a separate oneshot service and schedule it or a cron job 💔 so much random bullshit in systemd and can't even make such a common thing a feature

this pisses me off so much i should get involved with systemd

be the see you wanna change or something like that

[umbral wigeon]

assembly looks like chinese to me

[sage crag]

wrr

[umbral wigeon]

and C++ looks like chinese but pinyin

and python looks like chinese but english

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324872678791975004/1486451477739470998/BA0787E2D73F28B11C5D8BF6AC8FF7B6.gif

[rigid snow]

chinese but english

[jagged turtle]

chinese but english

[azure lynx]

like the PDFs telling you how to use your electronic device you bought on Alibaba. Chinese but English.

[silent cloak]

Chinese is my favorite English dialect

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mihono-bourbon-uma-musume-gif-27600320

[brisk laurel]

ive

[hard delta]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-birthday-stark-fern-gif-9238369655450985542

happy birthday

[hard delta]

you've

[brisk laurel]

factory reset my phone

[hard delta]

did it get faster? did anything unexpected disappear?

[olive sable]

Since we dont know how old, just put "you've aged" in big letters on the cake

[hard delta]

my headcanon is that konii has been around forever and is just pretending to be an ageous being to not spook us

[olive sable]

Konii programmed the universe

In C

[hard delta]

no cause C is from the based dudes in bell labs who also made unix and plan 9

but konii wrote all their textbooks specifically to activate the right gears in their mind

[shrewd cloak]

found the rare breed

people who code in assembly

[trim valve]

[tender river]

[shrewd cloak]

please dont tell me u all code in assembly too

oh nvm i didnt get whole context, its just compiled to assembly

[azure lynx]

one day models won't hallucinate that they know stuff. ;[ just spent 20 minutes debugging code an agent wrote ages ago and found it had just called a random function that seemed like it was close instead of getting the right struct and modifying the values in that and passing them into a different function. (admittedly this was the same type of mistake I'd make and the code actually compiled and ran... it just didn't work.)

at least using LLMs hasn't completely removed my ability to debug code. ;]

[rigid snow]

assembly is the fastedt langueygr

very fastest

html fast languegr too

how do i compile assembly to html

[azure lynx]

webasm.

[rigid snow]

it'

[azure lynx]

sorry. ;]

[rigid snow]

how do i compile html to wasm

in puthon

[azure lynx]

i was going to suggest rust.

[rigid snow]

assemble faster language than roost

[azure lynx]

compile the rust to wasm. then it's web and assembly so fast and html. nod

[trim valve]

use pdf not html

pdf can run linecks

[shrewd cloak]

i wont call the compiling, its complicating

[azure lynx]

i wrote a disassembler for PPC in javascript once... that's the opposite though

(was mostly a sed command that processed a document)

[shrewd cloak]

unless you are porting, idk how u do that

[rigid snow]

why would you want to disassemble when assembly the fatsest

[azure lynx]

so you can get your bits back

duh

[sage crag]

hqppy biethay zityu

[sage crag]

glue

[shrewd cloak]

me glue, didnt read whole context

[sage crag]

ye glue

[silent island]

Sigh...

I miss the good old days...
Now my phone can only hold a charge for a whole day...
Just because ive started using my mac's charger on my phone...
Tis such a pain

[azure lynx]

mine tends to last 3-4 days unless I put discord on it.

[night coral]

I played minecraft on my phone a while ago

Went from 90 to 40 after an hour if memory serves right

[warped narwhal]

Aren't there timer services in systemd?

[rough bloom]

there are timers, but they do not restart services
they only start and I assume will do nothing if a service is already running

[fickle rain]

Does this mean you can make Windows go LGTM at arbitrary certificate on driver without test signing being enabled?

[trim valve]

that seems to suggest that you need to change a policy first

[rigid snow]

you can have one shot services

which pairs nicely with timers

we were specifically taught systemd timers in a class, not cron because the prof liked them more

[rough bloom]

ye, same thing anyway

on modern systemd systems cron jobs just become systemd timers IIRC

similar to mounts

[fast pagoda]

but cron syntax is esoteric and therefore cool looking

[rough bloom]

good thing that OnCalendar in systemd timers uses pretty much the same syntax then

[rigid snow]

ye i was about to say

it’s not the same but it’s no less esoteric i feel

[fast pagoda]

that's fair

[fast pagoda]

RunetimeMaxSec=1234 and Restart=always doesnt do what you're looking for?

and/or doing blahservice.timer file with OnCalendar for the timing of the restart + Persistent=true instead of doing a oneshot service in the blahservice.service file (not technically in the service file but alongside it)

well that doess require the oneshot actually for that one

i like how the https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemd.service.html is just the biggest wall of text ever

[rigid snow]

this isn’t “restart at this schedule” this is just “this restarts every N secs”

[fast pagoda]

right you right, i was thinking of the .timer and OnCalendar for scheduling but that would still require a oneshot configured in the .service

i think

my unhinged way of doing it would be to misuse WatchdogSec and in the actual service itself where you send your sd_notify telling the watchdog you're alive, have it jsut stop communicating with the watchdog when you want the restart to be scheduled lol

this sounds very not fragile

[idle dune]

Solid deal honestly

[obsidian mantle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1458911901919482000.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=banbnabadog

happy birthday konii

[rigid snow]

uuuuuuu

fork bob

spoon grenade

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324872678791975004/1486451477739470998/BA0787E2D73F28B11C5D8BF6AC8FF7B6.gif

[rigid snow]

bird

[sage crag]

ye

[proven merlin]

I wonder is a Mi50 32gb for 620€ a good deal? Im not gonna buy it but i found one on ebay..

[nocturne olive]

Depends on if you need CUDA

Memory wise it's not bad compared to the 3090s I've been getting

[patent shard]

Oof

[sick owl]

What res are you upscaling from?

[nocturne olive]

No clue

[sick owl]

Also are you on dlss quality

[nocturne olive]

DLSS quality preset on 1440p display

[rigid snow]

i think the conveyor belts smearing so much they appear to stop moving is

i’m not sure what it is actually, something about the temporal qualities of dlss

it really doesn’t bother me at all though

yeah it looks bad but you’re playing a factory game presumably for the factory part not the le pretty graphikz

[rigid snow]

taa does something VERY similar, almost makes me wanna wonder if dlss is getting fed a taa’d image in the first place

be it the particular dlss implementation in the game i believe we’re both talking about/in its engine or common practice

[proven merlin]

Not really, and the extra vram does sound nice.. but not sure if the compute on it is good.. do they support rocm?

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324872678791975004/1486451477739470998/BA0787E2D73F28B11C5D8BF6AC8FF7B6.gif

[rigid snow]

oh it’s hydroneer - satisfactory does the exact same thing fwiw

[proven merlin]

The only thing that i could use cude for would be image-gen and such but eh..

[opaque sigil]

isn't the point to replace TAA with dlaa + dlss-sr

[opaque sigil]

no rocm support btw, only MI100 and higher

or well, no official support

[sage crag]

helo

[opaque sigil]

[sage crag]

tosto

[sage crag]

tosto

how do i use gcc trunk in nix

not exist

[chrome rampart]

haii shiro

[rough bloom]

[sage crag]

spon

[chrome rampart]

mhm me

[sage crag]

gcc merged preserve_none support a while ago

but no releases have it

its only in the git builds

[opaque sigil]

just override src no?

[sage crag]

wrr

i dont wanna build gcc

[opaque sigil]

it's not that bad

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

disable tests tho

those take like 2 hours

[sage crag]

nice

[rough bloom]

ye
though it might be difficult for gcc since it's a large project with multiple derivations

also patches

[stiff mica]

Client WebSocket ping: 16ms
Discord API ping: 149ms

[sage crag]

!nothing

[stiff mica]

Nothing ever happens, all-in

[opaque sigil]

oh yeah patches might be a problem ig

[sage crag]

probably my kernel

brokege

[rigid snow]

corn

kernel

https://tenor.com/view/el-gato-corn-cat-eating-corn-gif-5639860210508569950

[sage crag]

woaw

[opaque sigil]

nvm they read the info from a separate file

[rigid snow]

What If

[chrome rampart]

wuh do u usually code in, or r u a freak that works in like 3 languages at once

[sage crag]

i code in whatever i feel like using

[rigid snow]

is that what constitutes being a freak

coding in more than one language

[sage crag]

python for scripting
c for simple projects
cpp if i need c features and also a useful stdlib
rust if i need a huge ecosystem
ts if i need to write for the web
zig if i feel quirky
hblang if im working on ableos

its not uncommon

use whatever language suits the needs you have

[rigid snow]

bash for scripting
bash for simple projects
bash and additional packages if i need bash features and also a useful stdlib
bash in a different distro with different repos if i need a huge ecosystem
https://github.com/vercel-labs/just-bash if i need to write for the web
fish if i feel quirky
bash if im working on bash

this, by that definition, makes me #NotAFreak #MentallyStable #hireme

[olive sable]

i got bitten in my arm today so i cant code anymore this week

[rough bloom]

bitten

by what

[olive sable]

human

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

youre gonna love the new visual scripting tool for bash

https://github.com/Lluciocc/Vish

unreal engine

[rigid snow]

i saw this

where

but also this is a gimmick

[rigid snow]

i like ue blueprints because they've genuinely tried

just-bash isn't. a gimmick unfortunately

writing for the web using just-bash is though

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

you theoretically can and it'll be fairly ok i think

if you expose dom stuff as commands

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324872678791975004/1486451477739470998/BA0787E2D73F28B11C5D8BF6AC8FF7B6.gif

dont

[rigid snow]

sounds fun i should try

do

yes

not today though

i slep

[olive sable]

doing things you're technically able to do, but you really shoudln't, is peak

[sick owl]

Classic

[amber fractal]

:classic:

[sick owl]

Hmm yeah, doesn't sound like it should be an issue with DLSS 4

Weird

[nocturne olive]

I guess DLSS sucks

[olive sable]

YES

IT DOES

[amber fractal]

I'd personally accept the vibecode here, but that is because my entire repo atm is vibecoded. But at the moment I am trying to fix that

[glass flower]

i be honest.. i don't see a single difference between dlss and native when set to quality. just more fps i always enable it in every game

framegen too if its not a competitive shooter

[amber fractal]

If you gave me minecraft with DLSS I'd throw whatever client you managed to hack together into the dumpster

[nocturne olive]

In factory games the difference is extremely obvious

[glass flower]

not in satisfactory for me...

[nocturne olive]

For me the conveyor belts are so obviously blurry

[glass flower]

i tried for the whole day to get something working... like lossless scaling. now i just use fsr 1 with a 1080 -> 1440 upscaling... its good enough

[glass flower]

i don't remember that being an issue. tho its been a bit since i last played

[amber fractal]

I could maybe do lossless but nah bro I ain't touching the ultravisual modded MC version and piping into vulkan conversion for a long time

[opaque sigil]

lossless scaling my beloved

[glass flower]

i couldn't get vulkan to work at all.. it just instantly crashes

i did get it working once with completely vanilla and just the vulkan mod on fabric.

[amber fractal]

Because lossless scaling on linux requires a vulkan window and it adds it as a rendering layer

[glass flower]

worked incredibly well tho. only artifacts around the edges when moving fast. but it made 30fps feel like 200

(input latency was shit tho )

[amber fractal]

seems like my current config is at 40ish

igpu doing his best

[chrome rampart]

does visual scripting even help people who don't know how to code or is it just a fancier way to create spaghetti

[sage crag]

visual scripting is mostly useless

[amber fractal]

I have a bit of a modding problem for this game

[sage crag]

especially for people who cant program

[chrome rampart]

i see

what is it used for though

is it maybe faster than writing code

unless you have like 200 wpm

[olive sable]

im not gnl

maybe the newest dlss is fine

but what ive personally seen

its shit

i playes satisfactory before dlss 4 released, so it might have improved

but still

just the general concept of dlss i dont like

satisfactory isn't even that hard to run, i prefer 1440p 120hz on medium settings over up-scaling and more fps

[silent cloak]

its ass

satisfactory has the same issues because it uses unreal

for big factories I especially get a lot of artifacts

apparently it has to do with unreal being terrible at certain coordinate ranges

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

though the TAA+DLSS mix ends up being really bad for my eyes

i cant stand the ghosting