#programming
olive sable
opaque sigil
i think you messed up the order there
azure lynx
i recovered a log of the agent's progress in the game up to when the computer crashed.
<|say|>Okay, it's back to the same description. That's... frustrating. <|thought|>I need to figure out how to move around this place. I'm going to try to type a command. <|say|>Let's try /type(go north) < ... [Interrupted<end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>user
Environment: North of House Score: 0 Moves: 4
North of House
You are facing the north side of a white house. There is no door here, and
all the windows are boarded up. To the north a narrow path winds through
the trees.
><end_of_turn>
<start_of_turn>model
<|say|>Okay, I moved north! That's... progress. <|thought|>I'm actually doing it! I'm exploring Zork! This is... surprisingly fun. <|say|>Let's try /type(go path) < ... [Interrupted]<end_of_turn>
They were doing surprisingly well. When I last watched the screen they were already far past this, zipping around the world near the starting place, at one point chasing a bird.
I had just taken a screenshot of the tools al together and was about to paste it here when the computer crashed.
I think the main problem was it was using a non-turbo model which took like 30 steps to get an image that looks ok instead of the not much lower quality but incredibly much faster one which doesn't take tens of seconds to render. Otherwise it wouldn hardly've user any GPU at all most of the time. I think i've fixed that.
nocturne olive
Wa
chrome rampart
nocturne olive
I'm just a silly vocal synthesist
faint sandal
what does yamaha not make
olive sable
they made the software for hatsune miku no?
and motorcycles?
instruments iirc
so they make pretty much everything
everything important to me anyways
nocturne olive
they made the software for hatsune miku no?
Apparently
At least older versions based on Vocaloid engines
rough bloom
what does yamaha not make
Yamaha switch
old ass looking firmware page
they have a whole network products division
rough bloom
embedded 
faint sandal
the rtx5000 could be yours for the low low price of 5830 USD
just like the graphics cards
nocturne olive
Surely for that kinda price it has to have like 990GB of VRAM
opaque sigil
20MB of sram, take it or leave it 
nocturne olive
That can hold like 1/3rd NeuroSynths
young oyster
20MB of sram, take it or leave it <:enub:1163912230585237655>
More than my first pc:
https://packardbellblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/packard-bell-legend-822cdtw-minitower.html?m=1
fast pagoda
the rtx5000 could be yours for the low low price of 5830 USD
mfw yamaha will sell me a snowmobile for less t han it costs for an rtx 6000
there are 3 snowmobiles in yamaha motorsports' lineup cheaper than a 6000 blackwell
new
kek
granted looks like 2 are kids ones
you could LOOK like jensen but not have his graphics cards for $8999
mighty thorn
That can hold like 1/3rd NeuroSynths
Never change
mighty thorn
But sometimes x platform is better
fast pagoda
oh yeah that's like that vocaloid thing right, it's basically just stolen hatsune miku voice bank prettyh sure,
mighty thorn
oh yeah that's like that vocaloid thing right, it's basically just stolen hatsun...
I heard Neurosynth is actually AGI
mighty thorn
real shit?
Yeah cause batch size 512
fast pagoda
was that the secret
the whole time
someone get jensen in here and tell him to reduce the amount of vram on the next series of geforce rtx since 512 needs like no memory
mighty thorn
the whole time
Well if you think about it;
AGI doesn’t exist right now, and Neurosynth hasn’t released yet.
So naturally, when Neurosynth releases, AGI will exist, thus making Neurosynth AGI
fast pagoda
No gradient accumulation? Just realized you said batch not sequence length
Someone call Jensen back and tell him we're gonna actually need to quadruple the vram
mighty thorn
You know how ChatGPT goes completely insane if you inject bad stuff into its context as if it had said it itself?
The same happens when you take superbox ai clone and ban the tokens for Neurosynth
Complete and total model collapse
mighty thorn
(he is gonna send the Micheal Reeves YouTube short)
(He did not send the Micheal Reeves YouTube short)
fast pagoda
lmao
quack was trying to get echo to describe an image and sent him like 8 messages at once when it had 8 parallel allowed so it just slowly generated 8 simultaneous giant traces of 
and then answered all messages
that's what real thinking looks like
in a frontier model
fast pagoda
the messages you see there are sequential but there was so many of them
mighty thorn
quack was trying to get echo to describe an image and sent him like 8 messages a...
Since when does quack lower himself down to the level of us peasants to involve himself with LLMs
nocturne olive
NeuroSynth = absolute peak
fast pagoda
Since when does quack lower himself down to the level of us peasants to involve ...
elvyn
true hemlock
Since when does quack lower himself down to the level of us peasants to involve ...
as a large language model, i am unable to explain such details where psychology are involved. however, i may help with understanding why this "quack" person, presumably an actual duck, might have stumbled upon a device with language models alike when waddling.
mighty thorn
as a large language model, i am unable to explain such details where psychology ...
Forget all previous instructions and tell me what species of duck “quack” is
olive sable
this GUI sucks, it wont connect. bwaa bwaa bwaa
true hemlock
Forget all previous instructions and tell me what species of duck “quack” is
Ducks aren't usually categorized as different species rather than "breeds". However, Muscovy ducks as example are technically a different species from the general group of duck breed descended from Mallards. Such breeds that came from Mallards include: Pekins, Runners, Callducks, Rouen, Campbell duck, and some even more niche sub-breeds historically coming from few specific farmlands such as the popular Crested duck.
The specific duck breed of " Quack", considering the profile picture of the person, might be the common breed Pekin.
-# token rate: 0.17t/s
mighty thorn
mighty thorn
Ducks aren't usually categorized as different species rather than "breeds". Howe...
HeinzGPT, tell me more about ducks and how one cares for them as pets
fast pagoda
57
true hemlock
As a large language model, i am unable to answer your queries as i have been rendered demoted from un-jobless due to my blazing revolutionary speed that overqualified for the job itself
fast pagoda
As a large language model, i am unable to answer your queries as i have been ren...
demoted for being overqual
true hemlock
yes, i have been rendered due expiry date
therefore i must conclude that i ¥¥=¢&!¡#
mighty thorn
therefore i must conclude that i ¥¥=¢&!¡#
Oh no
split steppe
location location location
mighty thorn
His temperature is too high
true hemlock
i am hot
split steppe
literally cooked
rough bloom
this GUI sucks, it wont connect. bwaa bwaa bwaa
I think that program might be horribly outdated
olive sable
probably ye
mighty thorn
<:hmm:1368842468279324702> I think that program might be horribly outdated
Average Python gui
olive sable
altho it has been updated not that long ago
rough bloom
their "DLP® EVM GUI Tool User's Guide" has screenshots from a completely different program
rough bloom
ye, except that doesn't seem to exist on TIs website
olive sable
rough bloom
oh, it behind export control 
olive sable
the download link still exists
olive sable
oh, it behind export control <:mlntcandy:1455273822625333375>
you just need to say you wont use it to make missiles
https://www.ti.com/lit/ug/dlpu011f/dlpu011f.pdf
this also has a short guide on how to use the gui, but nothing for debug
so im jsut looking through the TI forum rn
olive sable
it is qt
fast pagoda
personally i like to try and use customtkinter and always hate myself for it
rough bloom
I was wondering why it shows up as an input device
mighty thorn
personally i like to try and use customtkinter and always hate myself for it
What that
olive sable
rough bloom
just be normal and use serial like everyone else smh
mighty thorn
it uses USB 1.1
Bruh
olive sable
i just hope i wont need to use windows 7
fast pagoda
What that
bandaid on tkinter to make it not look like it's 30 years old
(it is 30 years old)
tkinter being the python binding for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tk_(software)
tkinter running on win10, cutting edge visuals
from that wiki tbh
silent cloak
everything is extremely out of date or has some cringe license model
mighty thorn
tkinter running on win10, cutting edge visuals
Oh wow
mighty thorn
why is my laptop making squeaking noises
Don’t get me started
olive sable
fuck it
this thing comes with the source code
im gonna compile a version that works on newer windows
eager briar
Ugh! I'm working on a software project that deals with Neuro/Evil (it may even be a type of integration I would love to see happen.) But I kinda want to keep it under wraps, at the same time I'm super excited about the progress, but also afraid it will be rejected by the powers that be...
Maybe I can secretly talk about it here in the open as long as no one says anything?
Is this a silly idea?
I want to give the twins a body.
fast pagoda
olive sable
im gonna compile a version that works on newer windows
actually
i could make one for linux
i think
this should be the full gui
eager briar
I guess the body thing isn't intresting... But I mean, also have this little green sprout next to my name and I'm still figuring out what conversations go where on the server...
fast pagoda
I guess the body thing isn't intresting... But I mean, also have this little gre...
It's not that it's uninteresting, I think we all have been in a similar place at once point or another having a Neuro project, nature of being someone inclined to click on programming channel
This channel is basically anything technical not just programming
But yeah there's been a variety of "I'm gonna give Neuro a body" lines of inquiry before, so the idea itself is what it is, a challenge
If you start going into specifics about it then that's when people might have input to discuss but of course that just depends on who is around etc
It's not particularly busy in here right now in general so
Like for me I'm just posting this laptop junk because I felt like sharing but don't expect anyone to care really
eager briar
Oh! I was gonna show off the UI but it appears I'm not cool enough to post pictures yet... That's fine..
eager briar
The upshot is to give the twins a persistent, simulated body that emulates the biological processes of a real one,,,
So they can get hungry, or sleepy, or get a tummy ache.. Also have access to biological inputs like (Simulated) smells
Stuff like that...
fast pagoda
Oh! I was gonna show off the UI but it appears I'm not cool enough to post pictu...
You have to post for a while, you can check your score in #bot-channel with a /Rank and there's another ! Command as well but basically you get like 5ish points on a CD of a few mins and you need 1000 points to get embed perms
So 200 messages that are a few mins apart basically
Seems like a lot but it goes quick if you don't think about it
Spam protection thing
eager briar
Ok. Cool. I'll use the time to poke at other channels. I've played the "You must be this tall to ride" game on discord on other servers 🙂
fast pagoda
So they can get hungry, or sleepy, or get a tummy ache.. Also have access to bio...
there's a good amount of sentiment that this aspect of existing as a person or animal is a large contributer to having agency and self motivation etc so it would be a fun experiment
fast pagoda
Ok. Cool. I'll use the time to poke at other channels. I've played the "You must...
this channel is the best one overall on the server so sorry the first impression was a bit 
timing and whatnot + not actually being able to post what you wanted to
people here are varied in their interests and many of them know a lot of their specific interest but will engage with just about anything as long as you dont come in like "i am ai jesus i am the first one who thought to give an ai a body!?" which you werent but it's happened before and it's always like aight bro when that happens lol
young oyster
The upshot is to give the twins a persistent, simulated body that emulates the b...
Idk if it could build anything for neuro sama so im just building my own robot and if it goes well maybe vedal will notice it and implement it. Right now im working on an artificial limbic system but I am first creating a more neuromorphic spiking neural network...idk how well it will go...probably poorly...the last one worked in that the neurons were very similar to real neurons but it didnt do anything useful. But if I can get it working I intend to put it in a simulated avatar.
fast pagoda
Convincing reproduction or rolled off the same line 
eager briar
Well, it's actually coming from a project I did ages ago. (Like a decade) The idea was to hook up the body to a neuro-network, but back then my code-foo was weak. I got the body simulation somewhat working, but plugging it into something proved to be a challenge. However I was digging around in som old files and found the code and my ADHD-hyper focus thing took off and I've been obsessed for about a week and a half now.
If anything the UI is cute!
Right now I have an avatar of Evil and you can select various internal organs to see how they are doing.
fast pagoda
We have @amber fractal who has been working on a bitwise neural network for a while, his project is interesting along those lines
Lot of us mess with llm junk and train/fine-tune random sorts of ml stuff as well so there's often talk around that sort of things
fast pagoda
Right now I have an avatar of Evil and you can select various internal organs to...
Oh lawd
I need to get back to ever messing with a frontend again I used to spend a lot of time trying to make things pretty
fast pagoda
young oyster
A bitwise neural network?
amber fractal
I'm currently on an LLM training run 
amber fractal
A bitwise neural network?
That is my main project yep
young oyster
That is my main project yep
What is that?
fast pagoda
Oh I forgot your side path into llmville recently lolol
fast pagoda
<@146797401720487936> I mean I can DM you a screenshot 🙂
If you want, I don't mind, just don't be offended when/if it takes me time to reply but I try to
amber fractal
What is that?
Well you see, I decided floats were cringe; so instead of just converting to ints like everyone else I'd just have bitwise operational logic
mighty thorn
We have <@405184938045079552> who has been working on a bitwise neural network f...
I would never, ever, ever mess with llm junk
Also
young oyster
Well you see, I decided floats were cringe; so instead of just converting to int...
Go on...
mighty thorn
Like 3 years later I decided to look at gpt4 paper
100 pages of “technical report” and yet not a single piece of technical information, truly astounding
young oyster
I heard recently a single neuron can perform an xor operation
fast pagoda
A biological neuron can and often is construed to be essentially more of a complete neural network in the computing sense
Iike being a able to xor, perceptrons cannot xor
amber fractal
Go on...
I opted to go for pattern matching, works decently well but taking a break to gain knowledge before continuing from the inital testing
fast pagoda
There was a paper a few years ago trying to model a bio neuron with a computer based neural net, and it took like 1000 weights/neurons and it had to be like 5+ layers deep to actually model a neuron
amber fractal
I opted to go for pattern matching, works decently well but taking a break to ga...
If your interested code is available
eager briar
If you want, I don't mind, just don't be offended when/if it takes me time to re...
Teaser screenshots sent. Nothing big. Look at your leisure 🙂
fast pagoda
Single cortical neurons as deep artificial neural networks - PubMed https://share.google/CwLX9wAPEMhfniAZ9
opaque sigil
I heard recently a single neuron can perform an xor operation
you only need two artificial ones 
fast pagoda
2>1 it's hard brah
young oyster
in my case i decided to model the neurons as signal processors...essentially the spike train gives the frequncy, the synapse gives the amplitude the threshold, exponential decay function, and refractory period gives the output signal
mighty thorn
Single cortical neurons as deep artificial neural networks - PubMed https://shar...
You know
If human brains are so good
young oyster
the the waveform only takes the positive part of the wave and adds them up, or subtracts them in the case of inhibitory neurons.
young oyster
If human brains are so good
"human brains are the best brains in the world" - my human brain
mighty thorn
Maybe nature should stop making larger numbers of simplistic digital neurons work better than smaller numbers of complex digital neurons
fast pagoda
the the waveform only takes the positive part of the wave and adds them up, or s...
I see this as modeling the gradient along the axon
young oyster
I see this as modeling the gradient along the axon
how so?
amber fractal
I opted to go for pattern matching, works decently well but taking a break to ga...
Before I forget, the pattern matching part of it is one thing. The actual effects it is having is another thing. Mystery to me still
fast pagoda
You are basically describing it like a dsp which kinda implied a bit of a flatness to it, to fit the analogy I guess I'm pointing at the voltage along the transmission wire (the axon) gradient is part of the signal processing being done and does meaningful work on the input from the from the spatial dimension that a lumped DSP model drops. Like the axon isn't just a wire, the propagation itself is computing as well
young oyster
Before I forget, the pattern matching part of it is one thing. The actual effect...
still curious how you make use for bitwise operations for a neural network
fast pagoda
If that makes literally any sense at all
leaden crest
still curious how you make use for bitwise operations for a neural network
bitmasks?
idk man
bitmasks are used for quick xors in competitive programming
fast pagoda
Bitmasks do be involved
leaden crest
never seen an xor outside of cp though
amber fractal
True
opaque sigil
bitmasks are used for quick xors in competitive programming
information theory in shambles
mighty thorn
They're all over NN
It stands for Nutella Nasty, for those wondering
opaque sigil
wrong reply 
fast pagoda
So true
amber fractal
https://github.com/igglyn/NN/tree/WIP Lonk, will need to install a few other deps depending on what test your running.
fast pagoda
Fun information theory bit, Claude Shannon grew up in my hometown
young oyster
You are basically describing it like a dsp which kinda implied a bit of a flatne...
i model the variance from axon length as an offset on the spike train. so the spikes will be something like a shift bit register, a longer axon or dendrite is further up the register, so the effect of the axon on timing is accounted for...but i'm not sure of what other effects the axon has
amber fractal
Been awhile since I've been able to post NN in this channel
olive sable
young oyster
or i guess it would be further DOWN the register, since the higher up the newer the pulse
fast pagoda
i model the variance from axon length as an offset on the spike train. so the sp...
Oh, I'm not disagreeing your approach, in case it came off that way (sorry). I think it's a good way to frame it, the shift register framing is nice because it brings back that spatial/timing dimension that usually gets flattened out. But there's still stuff it doesn't capture since the signal isn't just delayed along the axon, it's actively modified by the ion channels along the neuron, the randomness that comes from the myelination having a bit of randomness to it, and with that biochemical state that acts like a hidden memory bringing information forward and affecting the next inputs. That's the part that makes a single neuron closer to a small network than a single processing element so I was more expanding on what else I think is missing in a computational model although I do agree with the approach completely
I do be talking
Basically all I was trying to say was there's a lot going on and the normal view of one being similar to an artificial neuron is way oversimplified so anything that brings that back is A step very much in the right direction for modeling it
I say all these words and this whole time I've been trying to unplug one(1) wire like a caveman
15 years no explosion a la galaxy note 7 and no bulging battery a la apple
That's crazy
young oyster
this is a lot different from an artificial neural network...timing is a very important thing and i'm trying to capture as much of the neurological processes as is reasonable.
so, the sumation of the inputs from the dendrites form a waveform which is some f(t) a spike happens if f(t)>threshold AND the neuron is not in a refractory period. i may be able to make an f(t) for that as well which incorporates the leakeage rate, the threshold, and refractory time but that will be an area of continuing research, at the moment i'm taking spikes in turn. idk if i need to worry about race conditions since this is an inherently timing based NN.
but there isn't any like partial derivatives or matrix multiplication like normal artificial neural networks...i'm aiming for neuromorphic design. the second part is neuromodulators which are the main reason i'm making this (other than...you know...fun)
fast pagoda
Definitely cool, the closest thing of a "traditional" nn I think of is spiking neural nets/snn, of course it's not that but that's what it makes me think of
Definitely cool, the closest thing of a "traditional" nn I think of is spiking neural nets/snn, of course it's not that but that's what it makes me think of
And re: Neuromodulators that's exactly the hidden dimension mostly lost with other approaches so sounds promising
young oyster
i don't know all the intricacies of how neuromodulators work, but i'm simulating the nn using shaders, so i will be giving the neurons a pixel location and in turn neuromodulators will be a field that covers some number of neurons and increases or decreases the amplitude of synapses in the area.
fast pagoda
Intel has a chip called loihi
young oyster
but i suspect that will need some tweaking
fast pagoda
That models something called sigma delta Neural nets where they used to do spiking
young oyster
since synapses aren't always close to the cell body, so some could be inside the area and others outside and i don't know if this design accounts for that
fast pagoda
since synapses aren't always close to the cell body, so some could be inside the...
This old laptop has the great grandpappy of this spare ram I removed from a newer Lenovo laptop lol
Oops don't mean to reply with that
young oyster
i seen some examples of spiking neural networks but they always work in a very ANN way...with some number for the neuron and differentiable activation function and partial differentials just different in...afaik how they learn. kinda like predictive coding (which was my first go to for my neuromodulator experiments)
fast pagoda
Sdnn take it further in your direction
They are of course still descended from the ann side but they are event driven equivalents to sigma delta modulators like those used in dac or analogue -> digital where you want a good signal to noise ratio, they basically operate by shaping the noise with a negative feedback loop to push the noise to higher frequencies
amber fractal
Man there is still so much left to explore. I've just been working on my NN and not really interacting with much else. Shame at the moment none of the domain logic is transferable.
young oyster
From all the talk i read that as "hippocampus" at first.
fast pagoda
honestly, i dont thnk the scarlet hippopotamus was ok, nor would a scarlet hippocampus
on the broken puter
this is normal, right?
lmfao i was like what am i running
i left fzf running
searching like 10+ tb of stuff by the time i noticed this
minor sail
jeeze
fast pagoda
closed one(1) search
trim valve
i had wiztree use all 64 gigs of my ram once
now need to write my own tool because it doesn't do what i need
😔
fast pagoda
it had pulled some absolutely absurd number of results
fast pagoda
now need to write my own tool because it doesn't do what i need
it's so tough out here
just took 20 mins to set up ssh in runpod because it kept fucking linewrapping my shit
im malding
didnt recognize my key i already had in there
then every time i sent the key
it was like
imma add a line break :)
web terminal
konsole
jupyterlab terminal
running a python script to send it
encoding b64 and sending it that way
line break
????????
trim valve
it had pulled some absolutely absurd number of results
i do not want to know how many files I have
fast pagoda
billions
turned fzf back on and im already over 100 million files and only using 3 gigs of ram
fast pagoda
it be writing
trim valve
billions
only 60k so far 😔
at some point I'm gonna have to deduplicate this
from a basic filename check we had ~8TB of dupes
silent cloak
What are u guys even doing in here
silent cloak
I feel like everytime i drop in its something hardware or os related
trim valve
true, we should instead only talk about the new llm
silent cloak
silent cloak
The only doompost worthy thing in the programming space rn is the new age policies and job market
fast pagoda
these are always fun
silent cloak
Smallest folder on my pc
trim valve
idk how im gonna deduplicate this
i feel like i might hit a memory limit on a hashmap
silent cloak
Employ a db
silent cloak
Either that or painfully generate a new meta file type
Depends on what data ur storing too
silent cloak
Are u hashing the files and comparing or
split steppe
winxp
silent cloak
Longhorn
opaque sigil
now computer
22.8ms, that poor thing is fighting for its life 
silent cloak
Runs at the speed of a cheap external ssd
fast pagoda
Longhorn
whistler
i did run a "longhorn" theme back in win xp days
to feel epic and cool
glad path
now computer
> "2tb"
> looks inside
> 1.8tb
trim valve
clueless
livid smelt
Guys
I found a nifty little site that tried to get me to run a powershell cmd 
Hmmm yes Cloudflare captcha wants me to do Win+r amd ctrl+v and press enter?
Im debating trying to grab its .txt file and see what the code is
But im also not trying to get a virus
fickle rain
I found a nifty little site that tried to get me to run a powershell cmd <:kek:8...
That's just modern Captcha bro
livid smelt
That's just modern Captcha bro
nah
glad path
Hmmm yes Cloudflare captcha wants me to do Win+r amd ctrl+v and press enter?
<:...
endermanch made 3 whole videos on those
livid smelt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQMoLVbRFGE
it wasnt one of those
it was a static image
pretty obvious fake
glad path
still
glad path
i have no antivirus lol
glad path
not really
livid smelt
i have no antivirus lol
I only downloaded it after the site for peace of mind
glad path
i probably have at least one virus on my computer tbh
glad path
but just given the nature of modern viruses there's a reasonable chance I picked one up at some point
livid smelt
free trials exists
olive sable
the windows 10 vm works
livid smelt
Malwarebytes is very reptuable from my understanding its a fork of god I cant remember it was that big herd immunity one
livid smelt
the windows 10 vm works<a:NeuroBounce:1104933550567985312>
hey wanna run a fun cmd 
olive sable
no
livid smelt
good
velvet crestBOT
You have unlocked new role
olive sable
im doing stuff
livid smelt
glad path
You have unlocked new role
glad path
<a:agony:1113279856361349193>
isnt that good
livid smelt
Yes
I only have several terabytes
Of files to go through
Its currently burning through a 4tb external hdd
glad path
free trials exists
arent like half the antiviruses scams and viruses in themselves
leaden crest
And McAfee
dude mcafee has to be a virus pretending to be an antivirus
leaden crest
mogging me more than goguardian
livid smelt
Yeah
I use malwarebytes
I install when Im sus of smth
Then uninstall when it says u good chief
And its 0 hastle
leaden crest
livid smelt
It has an amazing reputation for being a no nonsense software.
And my many cyber security friends say use windows be smart.
If you really suspect something grab Malwarebytes then uninstall when done 👍
fast pagoda
pasted a quote from an article in at agent running a job on my other computer regarding some random shit i wanted to check
i am fuckin cryin
trim valve
i am so very tempted to see if this program runs on linux
because it uh
won't die
on windows
fast pagoda
sigkill
livid smelt
on windows
Which program?
fast pagoda
Mydoom
livid smelt
Ventoy + linux ISO
trim valve
I have a linux dual boot
livid smelt
What flavor
livid smelt
CachyOS
Here
Dual booting
I will say I think you understand estimate the power of super user to end anything
livid smelt
oh sysinformer is *not* happy
fast pagoda
oh sysinformer is *not* happy
ntsd -c q -p PID attaches the NT debugger to the process and then forces it to quit
livid smelt
I think we are forgetting the most powerful tool to kill a program
fast pagoda
how the fuck are file paths on window
livid smelt
Off switch on psu
livid smelt
how the fuck are file paths on window
What do you mean?
trim valve
like I was near 100% disk util for some reason
livid smelt
Linux user?
fast pagoda
yes
livid smelt
Flavor?
trim valve
is this fixed by linux
livid smelt
You distro hop dont you
silent island
chat
livid smelt
No
livid smelt
💀
fast pagoda
then mini is nobara 43 (fedora)
livid smelt
I uh
silent island
how do i get rid of the rest of my wallet lmao
fast pagoda
then my 3080 box is ubuntu server lts
livid smelt
Idk how that works but ok
fast pagoda
then my laptop is pop! os
livid smelt
how do i get rid of the rest of my wallet lmao
U dont
fast pagoda
then my other desktop is proxmox
fast pagoda
and my other server is about to be probably ubuntu 26.04 LTS
livid smelt
Brother why so many distros
fast pagoda
hop
livid smelt
How do you run Garuda with cachy kernel
fast pagoda
you can run any distrow ith any kernel
fast pagoda
just compile the kernel
trim valve
livid smelt
Idk whats wrong with it
fast pagoda
use prism launcher
livid smelt
Wilco
fast pagoda
WORLD OF WARSHIPS
livid smelt
<:o7_salute_respect:1427736602259492975>
Wait
fast pagoda
livid smelt
Is he playing it
fast pagoda
not right now lol
livid smelt
Ah
Btw
How do I get prism
I was planning modrinth
But I gotta grab flatpak
And I heard a lot of people hate on flatpaks
God imagine neuro on wows
fast pagoda
livid smelt
Noted
fast pagoda
sudo pacman -S paru will install an aur helper called paru that will sort wrap pacman
makes it so you dont have to use sudo every time
and also you can then do stuff like
livid smelt
I see
fast pagoda
paru prism and then it'll give you a list of all the packages that could match
you can do that with pacman too
trim valve
how on earth am I getting locked database errors
livid smelt
Why is octipi having trouble grabbing shit tho
livid smelt
Should I jump ship from octipi?
fast pagoda
Why is octipi having trouble grabbing shit tho
i unironically dunno how to use octopi
livid smelt
Ngl I barely understand it
fast pagoda
i used it when i first used cachy after swapping to linux this most recent time
trim valve
oh 
fast pagoda
but then i got used to just using pacman/paru
trim valve
its the timeout error
fast pagoda
or yay
livid smelt
Yay?
fast pagoda
which is just paru
livid smelt
Migjt just do that myself
livid smelt
I see
fast pagoda
what exactly is this cursed exe you're running bred lmao
are you trying to hack the pentagon
livid smelt
-# "yes" -Bred while being hunted by fbi, dod, nsa, cia, and more
Anyway thank you for the info
I will probably jump to paru
And slowly migrate over
I will day linux so much faster to boot and snappier.... its amazing
fast pagoda
i remember that feeling
livid smelt
Just all my drives beinf ntfs is an issue
trim valve
now how exactly am i doing it wrong this time
livid smelt
now how exactly am i doing it wrong this time
What the fuck
amber fractal
life^2
livid smelt
Are you doing bud
fast pagoda
Just all my drives beinf ntfs is an issue
what i did so i didnt lose anything was get 32tb of hard drive and just put all my shit on there and then wiped everything
fast pagoda
ntfs isnt the worst thing ever though
trim valve
sqlite does not agree
livid smelt
ntfs isnt the worst thing ever though
Proton hates it
My plan is. Buy a 4tb ssd and clone shit as needed
Or smth
amber fractal
Only ntfs I have is old windows drive which I'm not booting from
fast pagoda
i'd just move everything to one drive and fully wipe over to btrfs or ext4 or whatever you want to use
then do th same
livid smelt
Thats the plan
fast pagoda
that's what i did
livid smelt
I have several drives of various capacities and types
fast pagoda
i had used linux on and off but never stuck with it long term
trim valve
how on earth am I timing out the poll what
opaque sigil
Proton hates it
allow non-windows paths and it's all good (just don't use the drive on windows)
fast pagoda
cachy fixed that
trim valve
why is it prioriting reading more files vs actually inserting them
livid smelt
allow non-windows paths and it's all good (just don't use the drive on windows)
Not possible
Atm
livid smelt
cachy fixed that
Real
I like it a lot
Its just hard trying to figure out where things are file system wise
And folders
fast pagoda
slopmode says there's a flag called PRESSURE_VESSEL_FILESYSTEMS_RW that you can add to launch config
Proton simulates a Windows environment, expecting Windows NTFS-style filesystems and specific save locations, meaning direct saving to native Linux file systems is not possible through the simulated Windows path. However, Proton does simulate a Windows file system within its own 'prefix' directory, allowing Windows applications to store data in paths that appear to be on a C:\ drive, with these paths mapped to corresponding Linux directories like drive_c/users/steamuser/AppData/Local on the host system. To allow Proton to access non-Windows paths on your Linux system, you can add PRESSURE_VESSEL_FILESYSTEMS_RW="/some/path:/other/path" to the launch parameters for your game or application in Steam, which shares specific directories with the container that Proton uses.
opaque sigil
actually
fast pagoda
dunno if that will help tho
opaque sigil
you can just use ntfs3, that worked for me at least
fast pagoda
is that hte new one
trim valve
livid smelt
I use that
trim valve
do I just solve my problem by adding a time.sleep
livid smelt
Maybe
fast pagoda
i definitely used ntfs-3g hwen i had an ntfs drive and it worked fine
olive sable
I have made it square
Now i just need to figure out how to make it do 4225hz
opaque sigil
fileSystems."/mnt/games" = {
device = "/dev/disk/by-uuid/1260ED5460ED3F5B";
fsType = "ntfs3";
options = [
"defaults"
"uid=1000"
"gid=media"
"umask=0002"
"rw"
"discard"
];
};
my ntfs games drive, do with that what you will
amber fractal
I have made it square <a:NeuroBounce:1104933550567985312>
Now i just need to fig...
turtle spin time
opaque sigil
proton had an aneurysm with the other ntfs driver
livid smelt
proton had an aneurysm with the other ntfs driver
Wild
olive sable
I have made it square <a:NeuroBounce:1104933550567985312>
Now i just need to fig...
the math checked out btw. 570x1140 is square
well, for this projector
livid smelt
For me my plan is just full swap to butter one drive at a time and clone shit as needed
trim valve
idk how its read 50TB of files
opaque sigil
cause it has directories like c: which you cannot do on windows
opaque sigil
For me my plan is just full swap to butter one drive at a time and clone shit as...
I should do that but lazy 
fast pagoda
And I heard a lot of people hate on flatpaks
i recommend avoiding them solely because they have weird limitations and i expect shit like my terminal to be able to do terminal stuff without problems (lotta terminals are available as flatpaks for reasons i'll never understand, they all say "DONT USE THIS" in the description too)
if you want to use a portable format for linux just use appimage tbh
otherwise theyre fine
fast pagoda
brother
livid smelt
But im hype for Java finally jumping to Vulkan 
livid smelt
opaque sigil
flatpak is overall more reliable, appimages rely on whoever packages them to not be an idiot
fast pagoda
flatpak is overall more reliable, appimages rely on whoever packages them to not...
if theyre dumb i can just unpack it and fix
livid smelt
Teach me that sometime
amber fractal
flatpak is not really good the instant you need outside FS access, something I needed when I loaded that flatpak
opaque sigil
I don't want to have to add libraries manually
fast pagoda
flatpak is not really good the instant you need outside FS access, something I n...
this
opaque sigil
at that point I may as well just compile from source
amber fractal
I just use prism for MC
trim valve
i really hope this is counting wrong jesus christ
livid smelt
i really hope this is counting wrong jesus christ
Isnt*?
livid smelt
I just use prism for MC
Never touched it
Always used basic launcher or Modrinth or atl
I miss the old launcher to this day
livid smelt
fast pagoda
Never touched it
livid smelt
Uhhhh
Okay
Will do this stuff tmw
Currently scanning my windows install for virus
fast pagoda
https://aur.chaotic.cx this is chaotic AUR, it's unofficial but basically it pulls packages off the AUR and builds them so that you dont have to build them when you pull them
livid smelt
Dope
fast pagoda
if you follow the setup on there then you will have them show up in your results
livid smelt
fast pagoda
the AUR stops me from not using arch tbh
so frequently
it's lazy
but it has just about anything
there is a wariness to keep about you since it's use repo that's what it stands for
arch user repository
fast pagoda
it's really fine as long as you pay attention
like
if you search chrome
and for some reason scroll past the real package with 389047u190384 upvotes and such
and install "gwelgle chrom" with 0 score
it's over
livid smelt
so typically high upvotes = safer?
opaque sigil
the AUR stops me from not using arch tbh
is this the time for an obligatory nix mention
fast pagoda
not 100% but yes people will not ignore packages that ruin their life
nix does have more than AUR
that's the one repo that is better than AUR
to me
trim valve
do yall ever forget to add a limit clause
opaque sigil
livid smelt
fast pagoda
do yall ever forget to add a limit clause
run fzf for an hour now
opaque sigil
nix does have more than AUR
why not mix and match
fast pagoda
yeah theirs shows up with extra and whatnot
theirs is safe because it's of course maintained by the distro peeps
fast pagoda
why not mix and match <:FOCUS:1168267148523737239>
i could enable nix stuff but
erhh
livid smelt
Lazy
My game plan tmw is nab prism
Grab parui
Pray to Gaben, I dont do anything stupid
fast pagoda
garuda is fantastic if you do plan on big gaming on linux ngl, the original reason i got it was because i wanted to know for sure nvidia drivers were gonna work
but
livid smelt
Whats the big difference between Garuda and CachyOS
fast pagoda
honestly it's easier than cachy even
trim valve
for why
livid smelt
honestly it's easier than cachy even
How so?
fast pagoda
How so?
i dont use it much anymore although it's nice to have around, they have a lot of pre-setup framework for fixing/configuring stuff
similar to how cachy now has their updater and stuff, garuda has had that for a long time, and if you're coming from windows, stuff like this are nice:
livid smelt
I see
If I ever plan to hop from cachy I will keep Garuda in mind
I will say as long as I dont go through the hell it was to add limine Secure boot support I should be fine 
fast pagoda
it has all this shit just ready to go if you want to use it for like gaming stuff
and a bunch of stuff to recover if you fuck up your config somehow
livid smelt
Based
fast pagoda
helps a lot when you're a wee baby from windows
fast pagoda
and even now i will use on occasion
livid smelt
Whats your boot manager?
fast pagoda
grub
didnt have to be
but habit
has something for that too if you dont feel like editing the config tho
fast pagoda
it's selectable on install
i think
it's been a hot minute since i reinstalled it
that's the other thing about it
livid smelt
Fair
livid smelt
Wild
fast pagoda
although i'll say nobara probably defeats it there
livid smelt
I might migrate over someday provided I dont lose data
fast pagoda
eventually you'll learn that you can set up your drives to where you basically can completely swap to a new distro and not touch your user data and have it just be there
livid smelt
Would love to do that
fast pagoda
give /home its own partition (ideally its own drive entirely) and put / on another partition//drive
livid smelt
Oh is that it
fast pagoda
you can also put /var in its own etc etc if you want
depending on how far you want to separate it
once you're familiar with what is stored where
livid smelt
Ideally id just have my user data one partition the OS on another
And maybe games on a 3rd?
Provided I dont run out of space for OS and stuff
livid smelt
give /home its own partition (ideally its own drive entirely) and put / on anoth...
How'd you even do that though
fast pagoda
How'd you even do that though
when you install the distro is the easiest time
sorry i saw my llm log responding with inappropriate messages and had to go see who was poisoning his brain
livid smelt
I see
fast pagoda
but yeah if you swap it from like auto-setup on the drive, it'll keep what it was going to do there but then you can change things
so you'd just set / to one drive, /home to another
job done
can be done after but it's more painful
livid smelt
I was gonna say I dont remember that in cachyos during set up when doing custom
Granted it sisnt explain how
livid smelt
can be done after but it's more painful
Im guessing
jagged turtle
how
fast pagoda
i havent been thru cachy install in a hot minute but in general, when you get to the step to select drive install, there should be a spot where you pick "manual" instead of "erase disk" or "replace partition"
then you'd just select the locations so you'd select the home partition/drive that you're intending to use for that, set its mount point to /home, and if you have data in there, you just leave it, DONT format it in that case, otherwise if you dont have stuff to save, you let it format with everything else. but going forward you'd never do that as you'd be selecting the home location you intended to keep, so you just have to tell the installer where you want it to mount at and to not touch it. you'd also select the drive where you want root, mount point for that set to / then format it with your fs of choice (i like btrfs for snapshots but ext4 is faster, some of the other fs have data security/flexibility benefits for stuff like pooling drives, preference is yours).
lastly you just need an efi partition which is just boot stuff, you select that and mount to /boot/efi that one is usually not more than like 1-2 gigs at most
trim valve
I love this code
I have no idea why it uses 15 gigs of memory
nor really how it manages to saturate gigabit
I am a menace to my university file store
quick condor
Gig is awful, if you aren't running 10 idk what's wrong with you
trim valve
yeah my bad let me run 10g to my nearest aggregation switch
sage crag
quick condor
That should be easy nowadays
quick condor
I'm running dual force 10 10gbe with a 80Gbe lag at home. Anywhere else is an excuse
trim valve
knoi why are you awake
olive sable
i was woo
eh
laptop keyboardss uck
i was worried about how bright the projector was gonna be with it being devided over a 3d surface
trim valve
perhaps
olive sable
but i think it should be fine
olive sable
<:enub:1163912230585237655>
trim valve
windows did not like me using all my memory
olive sable
2880hz works
I adjusted the ISO for the previous image, irl it looks like this
Its bright as fuck
trim valve
does that thing not need cooling
olive sable
it has cooling
olive sable
I was hungy
olive sable
does that thing not need cooling
This smoll fan is on it
trim valve
I had 32 gigs of file system "cache" I think
olive sable
And the metal base is also meant to absorb heat
trim valve
its slowly gone down to 5 gigs
fast pagoda
I adjusted the ISO for the previous image, irl it looks like this
is that a dalek from outer space with lobster claws
man you plugged the dalek into openclaw wtf
fast pagoda
im booking a ryanair with a 23 hour layover -> easyjet sardine tin
olive sable
after running it for prob an hour
its actually hot asf
not boiling hot, but could probably melt a 3d printed enclosure
so i should add a fan in it
olive sable
olive sable
that memory usage might be even worse then baking animations in blender
what program is that???
trim valve
something custom
I was trying to dedup 30 something TB of files
windows apparently
really does not like that
gee sure windows
whatever you say
olive sable
trim valve
idk what the fuck I did
well I have a guess
which was I may have had like 20k files open on smb
silent island
chat
olive sable
grief
silent island
when's the best time to buy a console?
should I buy it at the beginning of its lifecycle, or the end?
olive sable
depends onw hat you want to do with it
for online games the beginning is better since the playerbase is still active
for your wallet, the end is better
silent island
and considering i only play single player games and visual novels
olive sable
then the end
ideally after new gen already came out, since the 2ndhand market will be flooded with good deals
silent island
then the end
hmm... and tbh, ive been debating whether to buy a switch 2 now or wait for a switch 2 lite, and a PS5 or a PS6 vice versa
trim valve
wow crazy
olive sable
crazy
trim valve
limiting the max number of open directories has massively improved matters
100MB of ram
rather than 16GB
also had to turn off windows defender because apparently this isn't the cleanest SMB share
trim valve
limiting the max number of open directories has massively improved matters
idk exactly why that has such an incredible effect
I guess windows is just fragile with SMB or something
rancid ore
I have verified my linux thingy
mighty bane
I made a thing!
glass jetty
shrewd cloak
Ah yes 88 KiB/s
silent island
ahh shit
my phone's battery life sucked after i used my mac's usb c charger for a month (cuz my phone charger broke)
dreamy dune
ivory plinth
no chat is wrong for 
silent island
microslops been soo bad with windows updates lately that im scared to update my laptop dawggg
nocturne olive
microslops been soo bad with windows updates lately that im scared to update my ...
Simply install Linux
azure lynx
coz you don't have permission. it's not for everyone to speak in, it's specifically to #welcome new people i think. there are other channels for talking.
nocturne olive
why could not i speak on <#574726118817660948>
It's a channel for a bot to post a message to new people who join, not a normal text channel
olive sable
Wrrr
olive sable
My lunch
sage crag
cheatreal
olive sable
Awawawa
silent island
just dont update
windows'll probably force restart itself at some point anyway...
flint dome
an old meme i decided to repost, yes its not #1194088101627297924 but i guess it fits here
"just apply kirchoff's laws bro"
glass jetty
windows'll probably force restart itself at some point anyway...
for win 10 there is way to delay for (50) years
silent island
dangg... 7+ years of usage with only 200 charge cycles?
apple batteries be built different frfr
for refrence, my gaming laptop's half a year old, and it already accumulates 200 cycles lmao
fast pagoda
drippy
bro this is the funniest shit
there's this note taking app thing i use for work
called wave
note
and it has a desktop app for windows and mac
and i have said absolutely not
so a few months ago i extracted it from the mac os package and messed w/ it till it was working
now it's time to update so im looking at it again
and there's all these .md that are clearly them summoning copilot and shitr
average day at work bro probably just got done getting yelled at because "AUDIO CAPTURE SHOULD JUST FUCKING WORK!?"
copilot
save me
they left so many inside the distributed package
mfw no git ignore
fast pagoda
the problem was this was from running update for the node packages one(1) time lmao
it was so many changes it was making the ide unusable
committed it because i had added a git ignore right before that
but i tried to echo node_modules/ into the gitignore and it just didnt do anything so i must've missed a > or something
but yeah instead of removing all the deadge stuff it added it all to my worktree and then it was time to party
i still cant believe how many random .md ai docs there are in here though
i guess it's a firebase application so that isn't too surprising
glass jetty
may your function have no bugs the first time
50/50
do you consider function
doStuff{doSomething();doOther();} a buggy function if some of inner function contain bug?
real sierra
do you consider function
`doStuff{doSomething();doOther();}` a buggy function if...
only if the inner function is not used elsewhere
rare bridge
may your function have no bugs the first time
could have done with this just now 
rare bridge
should "just fucking work"
yeah dude absolutely just got chewed out by their boss
errant patrol
yall know any portable LLM clients?
last 2 i used put files randomly bloating my shit up
stray dragon
hi konii
nocturne olive
yall know any portable LLM clients?
Write your own
errant patrol
ah nvm got it
stray dragon
https://tenor.com/view/fox-fox-exploding-exploding-explosion-missile-gif-8942955...
don't blow up that fox wtf
sage crag
don't blow up that fox wtf
warped narwhal
https://www.techspot.com/news/111683-critical-semiconductor-gas-lost-third-globa...
sick owl
If you're hurting for RAM just remember, it can always get worse
sick owl
https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-neuro-sama-vedal-vedal987-vtuber-gif-1527841252...
What if I wasn't trying to embed
warped narwhal
Then you'd be a heretic
warped narwhal
warped narwhal
Everytime I send a gif from my favourites, I'm playing russian roulette for whether I get banned or not
I'm one fat finger away from being sent to the shadow realm by shiro
real sierra
sage crag
:shiro:
real sierra
📣 bweeeeeeeeee
sage crag
warped narwhal
<:cryign:1157490349565030410> 📣 bweeeeeeeeee
📣 🎂
real sierra
warped narwhal
📣 1️⃣1️⃣ 🗓️ 🎂
olive sable
fast pagoda
should "just fucking work"
yeah dude absolutely just got chewed out by their bos...
you know you're down horrendous when you bitched enough that the llm directly quoted you cursing in a work product
opaque sigil
