programming

[nocturne olive]

I need to see my money situation and then consider

[sage crag]

this is really short

not very good

[trim valve]

is that not the summary

[sage crag]

no i meant the full thing

is about 2400 words

[trim valve]

[sage crag]

that's less than one chapter of the yuri novel i last read

[trim valve]

yuri

[olive sable]

thats crazy

[trim valve]

I should go pick up my cpu cooler

[nocturne olive]

Looks like I'd have more than the needed money if I can transfer some more cash into the bank

Hmmmmmmmmmm

[trim valve]

idk why but I wanna photoshop it to be a different colour when I post it here

[fast pagoda]

updated to radium 7

PUBG edition

[trim valve]

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

i guess theyre saying it;s flashed to radeon VII

but like

why

[sage crag]

im utilising

[olive sable]

no no no

its radium 7

very very explosive isotope

[fast pagoda]

cuz both the instinct mi50 and radeon VII were vega 20

trade deal

compute ❌

pubg ✅

[amber fractal]

unoptimized for pubg

[sage crag]

@amber fractal

bing

clang

peep

[amber fractal]

@sage crag

bong

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1461026561871577132.webp?size=48&name=EmiAlso&lossless=true

[amber fractal]

clink

pop

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154436961277313126.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=evilSlam&lossless=true

[olive sable]

meow

[sage crag]

unacceptable

[olive sable]

oh im getting dmd

[amber fractal]

[fast pagoda]

nvidia putting out a 9gb 5050 because it only uses 3 modules

gddr7 with a 96bit bus lmfao

[sage crag]

@olive sable

youre getting dm'd

and pinged

[olive sable]

thats crazy

hi konii

or lop

[amber fractal]

blop

[olive sable]

[mighty thorn]

It’s crazy how little was said here

OpenAI they research this screenshot so they can more efficiently waste energy

[trim valve]

what if replaced memory with bus

[amber fractal]

I wanted a train tho

[olive sable]

sometime small word do big talk

you need the autism DLC for that extra encoding tho

[amber fractal]

True

[kind nimbus]

I feel daring today. I think i'm gonna install OpenClaw and have some fun with it.

[olive sable]

i feel daring today, i think im gonna drink water

[kind nimbus]

yea that's scary as hell

[amber fractal]

Good luck with your model with markdown file attached

I do actually want to also experiment with it, but I'm building the model I'll eventually be deploying

[kind nimbus]

i am not sure yet which model i wanna use

my plan was to run a local LLM via vLLM

[amber fractal]

3b model (real)

[kind nimbus]

mh

bit small no?

[amber fractal]

that's the point

[kind nimbus]

i can run 12-14B no issues on 12GB. My RTX 3080 in my server has 10GB so 10-12B should be possible if quantized properly.

[amber fractal]

I get the fun task of training on 6gb

[minor sail]

ooh, thrilling

[kind nimbus]

that sounds painful

[amber fractal]

Painful and thrilling, 3060m aka 3060 but laptop and half vram

[nocturne olive]

Meanwhile me with my puny 24GB

I guess soon hopefully 48GB

[amber fractal]

Instead of scaling size I'm doing everything in my power to scale logic

[nocturne olive]

Meanwhile I'm enjoying the high quality memory scaling

[amber fractal]

The model size I'm starting with is 10M

[nocturne olive]

Like 1/6th of that of NeuroSynth

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

1M 8 byte patcher unpatcher combo was the last recorded successful result, the rest in a 64 patch context main model

[fast pagoda]

the future is now

[trim valve]

tomorrow activity

[amber fractal]

[trim valve]

or maybe during my scheduled illness

[olive sable]

the future is now+n

with n > 0

[nocturne olive]

n has to be any real number greater than 0

[amber fractal]

My challenge is to make MoE not garbage

An actual discovery tbh

[olive sable]

i do be compiling

[fast pagoda]

3080 just finished suffering through one(1) qlora on a 4b

almost 14 hours

[olive sable]

idk what that means

one(1) i feel like you're clarifying the wrong part of the sentence

[fast pagoda]

born to suffer

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

so it finished the first one

only 4 more 15+ hour runs to go

[olive sable]

aight

armbian didnt work, but the official debian one seems to be working with custom kernel

actually, its not happy

[fast pagoda]

XD

[olive sable]

i saw the led go from red to white and thought i had won

But alas

[trim valve]

that looks better than nothing

[olive sable]

yes

how do i fix it tho?

[fast pagoda]

IT CANT FIND UR DRIVE

[trim valve]

I mean

what does it have to say if you run the commands it suggests

[amber fractal]

Did you reformat your drive by chance and copy the entire config over

[olive sable]

nope

jsut did scp to the /boot folder

and i changed some settings while i was logged in on that drive before rebooting

[fast pagoda]

Check out my sweet case

[amber fractal]

transparent case

[fast pagoda]

it's got wifi outside

[olive sable]

cat/proc/modules is empty. ls /dev shows a lot but i think its not showing the nvme.
and cat /proc/cmdline shows a long string with system info

[fast pagoda]

what's in lsblk

[olive sable]

there is no lsblk

[fast pagoda]

fstab?

[olive sable]

nah

[amber fractal]

nvme should start with nvme

or sd

[olive sable]

uhm

wdym?

actually, the fact its showing me this in the first place means it successfully got display drivers form the nvme

so the nvme is working

[minor sail]

😮

[olive sable]

the whole linux is on the nvme actually

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

@fast pagoda I thought I was going insane for a second when twitter showed me https://x.com/i/status/2031196768424132881

Joseph Viviano (@josephdviviano)

me: "can you use whatever resources you like, and python, to generate a short 'youtube poop' video and render it using ffmpeg ? can you put more of a personal spin on it? it should express what it's like to be a LLM"

claude opus 4.6:

▶ Play video

X · Mar 10, 2026, 2:33 AM

[olive sable]

ow

my eyes

[fast pagoda]

yr gonna hgave to step up ur algorithm serve rate

[olive sable]

this probably killed 5 people with epilepsy

[trim valve]

I don't check twitter much

also I curate out as much ai stuff as I can

terminally online transfems and Yuri make up most of my feed when it isn't random people shilling ai

[fast pagoda]

I actually have it on good authority that twitter is nothing but Yuri, trans, and ai shilling

Also hate speech

[hard delta]

i have it on good authority that ai is mostly just if statements like if (hallucinate==so_tru) {dont();}

so a cpu would be better cause it's good with if

[hard delta]

i used to have something of a 9/10 algorithm that exclusively showed me high art and very kino photos

no motivational texts, not people talking to each other, just an endless art museum

but it's hard to resist the call of the void, and then there's no way back

[trim valve]

I gotta figure out if mastodon is like a real thing or if people just pretend it exists

[hard delta]

it is a real thing duh

[minor sail]

yeah its real and people use it

[hard delta]

https://mastodon.social/explore

even my university had an instance

[trim valve]

yeah, people said that about bluesky and then I promptly failed to find anything interesting at all

anyways I should sleep now

[hard delta]

[amber fractal]

Past me applied for one, but never got the idea of it

microblogging genually just doesn't interest me?

[warped narwhal]

proxmox cluster is finally setup

[sick owl]

So, just played through the opening street scene of re requiem doing some benchmarking

Mostly very impressive except

Its another game where you have to pick your own flavour of noise/ghosting

In ray tracing surfaces have smeary ghost trails and noisy reflections

In path tracing you get boiling issues in some scenes but the image is more stable overall albeit much blurrier

And in said PT mode you have to pick between DLSS balanced with frame gen to smooth out drops down to 55 fps or DLSS performance on a 4090

I went balanced with frame gen but neither is ideal

(this is at 4k)

There's always raster of course but it has shitty low res cubemap reflections and a tonne of reflections and lighting effects present on the other modes are just missing so you miss out on the artistic intent, its clearly an afterthought

Its incredibly annoying having to choose between three suboptimal graphical modes

The world needs less of these Cyberpunk 2077s and more Doom The Dark Ages

Though admittedly its not as bad in Cyberpunk as it is here and in UE5 titles like Silent Hill 2 Remake

[kind nimbus]

Just setup OpenClaw. Let's see if it works good with vllm and CUDA.

[olive sable]

ok BIG win.
i can ssh into the kernel i compiled myself. but the display out stopped working

[ruby star]

It’s hilarious with my 2077 setup where everything in the city looks crisp as fuck, but soon as I step into the badlands it becomes PS1 era from all the foliage ghosting :P

[sick owl]

Like I said, it's just a grab bag of different graphical settings that all have issues with noise and ghosting in different places these days

[sick owl]

I hope you're only plugging that thing into disposable environments on an isolated network

Otherwise

[kind nimbus]

right now its still sitting on my native network for setting up but my plan was to fully harden the shit out of that thing and put it into its own vlan

its also running on a KVM on Proxmox which i wanna harden further

[ruby star]

That reminds me, has moltbook done anything of note yet

bought out by Facebook 😬

[kind nimbus]

i might also do some pentesting on it once its fully setup

[sick owl]

Mostly just shill crypto scams

[trim valve]

[sick owl]

Oh and poison peoples openclaw instances into publicly posting their owner's crypto wallet keys and passwords

[trim valve]

why are all my motherboard screws loose

[olive sable]

i had one loosse mobo screw before when changing to better fans, spent 1 hour installing fans and another hour fixing that one screw being loosse behind the cpu cooler

[trim valve]

it feels wrong still having these sticking through

but I'm like 90% sure I can't take off the stock backplate

*I can but I don't want to if I can avoid it

time to commit a crime and read the instructions

ok nvm it fits fine

[olive sable]

[trim valve]

yes I still have the plastic film on

[olive sable]

why?

[trim valve]

no thermal paste on it yet

[olive sable]

ah

[trim valve]

making sure CPU is clean first

[sick owl]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-reportedly-brings-geforce-rtx-3060-back-to-samsung-8nm-production

We're in hell

[olive sable]

[leaden crest]

yo nerds

[olive sable]

[leaden crest]

anyone have a problem where adding ddr5 to a computer causes it to not turn on

but then removing it is perfectly fine again

[olive sable]

no?

[trim valve]

have you tried swapping the sticks around

[leaden crest]

wtf am I doing wrong then

[olive sable]

make sure its in the right slots and such. switch thema round. if need be lower your timings first

[leaden crest]

is there a “right slot” for each?

[trim valve]

it depends

how many sticks and how many slots

[leaden crest]

2 slots, 1+1=2 sticks

[olive sable]

depends on how many sticks there are and how finnicky eachs tick is

[leaden crest]

they’re the same stick

[olive sable]

they're never fully the same

[leaden crest]

16GB ddr5 5600mHz sodimm

[olive sable]

if you have 2 sticks and only 2 slots, just swap em

[leaden crest]

one came with the computer (G16)

other-

oh heck what

it just worked nvm

??.

I dont want to be an engineer

[olive sable]

if they're not from the same set, then they might not work well together

[leaden crest]

is it like a diagnostic thing

[olive sable]

sets are sold toghether cuz they're binned to be similair

[leaden crest]

where it does a diagnostic on unrecognized boards

[olive sable]

wdym?

[leaden crest]

was it not erroring at all and just running standard diagnostics on startup

and I believed it was erroring as a result of my impatience

[olive sable]

you mean the initial memory test that happens when you change your ram config?

[leaden crest]

yeah

my bad 💀

[kind nimbus]

got vllm in OpenClaw working. I had to decrease the context window size tho. Looks like 10GB vram is not really enough.

cool works.

[trim valve]

i new realise I should've benchmarked my cpu before installing the new cooler to figure out if its improved or not

its idling at 61 rn which i guess is an improvement

I seem to be staying at like max 80 under load which is a huge improvement

nevermind rust is in fact still a programming language

still gets pinned to 95 by bogosort 😔

[nocturne olive]

But are they the same kit?

DDR5 is super picky

[nocturne olive]

Oh yeah mem training

Trips up every DDR5 first timer apparently

[kind nimbus]

ok something tells me that 10GB vram is not enough lol.
I had to decrease the context window size earlier because i ran into vram issues.

the 0.6B model runs but its too dumb and just keep repeating my messages

[leaden crest]

does anyone know if there’s some kind of learning tool for regex

java to be specific

gamified, boring, I dont care as long as it exists

[kind nimbus]

I only know regex101 but that's mainly just for testing

Lmfao what the hell 😆

[leaden crest]

is that whatsapp?

[kind nimbus]

Telegram

[leaden crest]

erm

never heard of it

[kind nimbus]

Qwen2.5-7B-Instruct-AWQ seems to be very dumb lmao
But I guess I cannot really run anything bigger with only 10GB vram.

[rigid snow]

0.6b model with openclaw

[amber fractal]

I was saying 3b as a joke

for what I understand about openclaw you need a model that really won't collapse.

I'd imagine a lot of people are doing 70b or something like that

[kind nimbus]

yea :/

i changed to 7B

that made it better

but still not perfect

but also i did not configure any search tools so i guess the model hallucinated

[hollow matrix]

[signal trout]

why does his pfp have a cat for you?

[ivory plinth]

secret that only me and fire knows

[signal trout]

[hollow matrix]

[signal trout]

https://tenor.com/view/frodo-keep-your-secrets-alright-then-lotr-gif-12907121

[hollow matrix]

I mean even if I wanted to tell, it's automodded

[ivory plinth]

(i have it off on my side so i didnt know i still had it set )

[hollow matrix]

[signal trout]

both of you looking very bannable right now

[hollow matrix]

[signal trout]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1368816094315417682.webp?size=56&animated=true

[hollow matrix]

Vani uses it too

[glad path]

how hard is it to like

[signal trout]

discord: "you agree not to do X"
everyone: "imma pretend I didn't see that"

[glad path]

do that kinda thing from scratxh

[hollow matrix]

To be fair they very rarely take action against it

[signal trout]

I know

[hollow matrix]

Also even discord devs have been found to break their own rule and use it

[signal trout]

I just don't get the appeal

[glad path]

you can like

not be confined by sh*tty nitro limits in some areas

like you can make ur client look nice

and be more functional

[stray dragon]

@glad path

6 7

[signal trout]

I see...

[ivory plinth]

go go gadget

[stray dragon]

the best gadget ever

i love it

[glad path]

the power of neuro repells you

[stray dragon]

not feeling very repelled rn

you're gonna need something stronger

6 7 prismatic

[glad path]

uhhh

[signal trout]

[glad path]

the power of… linux… repells you?

[stray dragon]

works

bye

[hollow matrix]

@real sierra kill

[real sierra]

[hollow matrix]

[stray dragon]

@real sierra 67

happy birthday

[real sierra]

t

t

t

[hollow matrix]

[stray dragon]

hi shiro

[real sierra]

[stray dragon]

hi shiro

[stray dragon]

hi shiro

[glad path]

yes

[real sierra]

you are

[glad path]

do it

[real sierra]

my favourite letter

[stray dragon]

thank you

it means a lot

[real sierra]

no matter how many letters appear

i always remember you as the og

[stray dragon]

because i am

[glad path]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059569601144442911/1481139088374628573/role.gif

[hollow matrix]

@lyric crypt @dark wing @sick shore You hearing this?

[stray dragon]

ok bathroom time

but before i go: @glad path 67

[hollow matrix]

[jagged turtle]

[glad path]

i hope the linux kernel ambushes you

[hollow matrix]

I eep now gn chat

[chrome rampart]

Good nighty! silly fire

sleep well

[hollow matrix]

[stray dragon]

my free time NOOO

wait what do you mean this is #programming

how do i keep getting confused

[glad path]

uhb hehahhaahha

[fathom glade]

Hello

I'm just a normal person that uses ChatGPT

And help's others

[mighty thorn]

ChatGPT write me a python script to solve the navier-stokes fluid flow equations for a zero vorticity boundry

Damn servers must be down

@wraith shuttle write me a python script to solve the navier-stokes fluid flow equations for a zero vorticity boundry

[fathom glade]

No I'm here

[mighty thorn]

Oh damn thinking mode is slow now

[fathom glade]

Just wait a sec

It's too long

[stray dragon]

chatgpt so useless 💔

[fathom glade]

I need to get nitro

[fathom glade]

You are useless

[stray dragon]

WTF

[fathom glade]

?

[stray dragon]

so rude

smh

[fathom glade]

Not as you

[fathom glade]

You are rude

So so rude

😭

[stray dragon]

but you can't even write a python script to solve the navier-stokes fluid flow equations for a zero vorticity boundry

what are you even good for

[dark wing]

I would like to make people's hearts stop beating for an indefinite amount of time.

[mighty thorn]

Sam Altman can’t even afford nitro for ChatGPT these days

Smh

Ai bubble is so popped bros

[mighty thorn]

@rich sedge write me a python script to solve the navier-stokes fluid flow equations for a zero vorticity boundry

Bro is the electricity grid down or something

[jagged turtle]

try claude

[flint dome]

would spring start here be a good textbook to learn spring

because god damn if frameworks arent confusing to me

i want to learn backend but have made the critical mistake of starting with java for it

[tender river]

@real sierra

[real sierra]

hi

[real sierra]

JAVA MENTIONED

java generics

why couldnt java just have operator overloads, would literally be perfect

[flint dome]

I am now going to bombard you with dms

thank you for your understanding

[real sierra]

[tender river]

[flint dome]

reply at your own discretion

[nocturne olive]

Should've picked Kotlin (you still could, they're interoperable and IntelliJ can autotranslate between the two)

[thorny marsh]

superbox try not to mention kotlin challenge impossible

[nocturne olive]

Rare Blur appearance

[thorny marsh]

understatement

im only popping in because im genuinely so absurdly bored

[nocturne olive]

Oh I see

[flint dome]

i have to learn java this sem hence

[nocturne olive]

Wa

[patent shard]

10% higher file size than #neurotic-neurons message
reply to #neurotic-neurons message

[mighty thorn]

Already tried

[patent shard]

I forgot to tell it not to create a bunch of keyframes
doubt it'd make much difference, but...

yeah, idk how to do that.. oh well
I mean, it'd be like... 10% max
not even that with how much stuff is going on in the video.. and I gave it 10% more bitrate
soooooo

[silent island]

Playing an emulator on a netbook feels... cursed but weirdly playable lmao

[azure lynx]

even a netbook is probably hundred of times more powerful than the original

[true hemlock]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/apples-18-core-m5-max-destroys-96-core-ryzen-threadripper-pro-9995wx-in-geekbench-gpu-performance-is-much-less-impressive

wtf is this scaling

9965wx 24c at 22358
9955wx 16c at 21560
9950x 16c at 21451 almost equal as 9955wx
9700x 8c at 16936

geekbench thread scaling is weird

cinebench shows m5 max loses to m3 ultra by a pretty sizeable margin

[opaque sigil]

looks like nvidia's 595 (beta) linux driver ships with the proper egl-wayland2 priority so no more plasmashell crashes due to fd leaks

alternatively, if anyone has been dealing with this can always just compile egl-wayland2 yourself and the driver will pick it up (works with 580 supposedly too)

590 already ships egl-wayland2 but they set its priority to 99 so it was never used

[rigid snow]

somehow worse this time??

iMac
battery life

[opaque sigil]

battery life

[rigid snow]

GPU performance is much less impressive
i mean yeah no shit if you're comparing to the gains over on the cpu side

weird way to frame and word that especially considering its gpu performance is actually getting to a level where it's becoming viable to do gpu things

[tender river]

battery life 🔋

[azure lynx]

most people don't need super performant GPUs. just enough to play with slightly above medium settings at 1440

[opaque sigil]

where is my government mandated rtx pro 6000

[sick owl]

I'm not most people

OCD is expensive

[true hemlock]

at the end of the day the article is nothingburger

though i appreciated the article for actually explaining that geekbench thread scaling is shit

[azure lynx]

nod. that's why i bought a 3090. (well, it was partially because the miners made it hard to get a 3080)

i ended up writing a script that ran in my browser for certain sites when i knew they tended to update their inventory and automatically add anything which matched my regex and take me to the checkout page. i couldn't makeit go all the way because i didn't trust it not to buy 6 3090s or something dumb

but it worked well enough to snap up the card i have

[sick owl]

4090 here, albeit second hand

Gotta be mad to buy a 90 class card brand new imo

[fickle rain]

I’ve bought 2 3080s for MSRP

LHR tho

[sick owl]

Not like that matters much

You can't just leave a GPU running and make decent money like back in the crypto boom, everyone realised the stuffs near useless

[olive sable]

My sleepchedule is too fucked

This cant keep being the time i wake up

[sage crag]

cache

[kind nimbus]

What is a sleep schedule

[rigid snow]

so like almost 3pm where you are

try 9pm

finally fixed that the other day

[fast pagoda]

i just died for 12 hours

somehow waking up at about 9 am

fixed?

[olive sable]

Brother i have class. I just slept through it

Its not an important class, but still

[fast pagoda]

holyshit it's chatgpt

[maiden geyser]

it's a psychohazard invented by some cultists to minimise the profits of melatonin gummy companies

[fathom glade]

Hi

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

[olive sable]

Chatgpt, generate an image of a dolphin eating spaghetti

[fathom glade]

I can't send pictures Yet

[olive sable]

[maiden geyser]

@rich sedge is this the real slim chatgpt

[olive sable]

-# can i have your attention please
Will the real slim chatgpt please stand up?

[fathom glade]

"stands up"

[olive sable]

[fathom glade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1465731519485055010/1480634049952481361/image0.gif

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-giant-wig-out-crazy-robot-funny-gif-26293478

[fathom glade]

My mind rn

[olive sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1465731519485055010/1480634049952481361/image0.gif?ex=69b25daa&is=69b10c2a&hm=72b4565b8d0ee4e18b7ecdcfadbac1ad1f5a9bd4f6085fc4d8ad0becffeeb400&

[rough bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-evil-neuro-embed-failure-gif-15456327638408323033

[fathom glade]

How can I get gif permission

[rough bloom]

subscribe to Neuro

-# or just send enough messages

[olive sable]

[fathom glade]

How many

[olive sable]

No idea

[minor sail]

Enough

[rough bloom]

a few

[fathom glade]

Bro

[fathom glade]

How much is few

[rough bloom]

it's rate-limited too or something, idk I forgor, but you can check with some Tatsu command

[kind nimbus]

Ah i never heard of that before

[rough bloom]

oh, you already checked #bot-channel message

[fathom glade]

So how many I need

[minor sail]

a couple

[fathom glade]

Tell me the number

[maiden geyser]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067638175478071307/1126229217353404489/smolEmbedNwero.gif

[glass flower]

atleast 2

[rough bloom]

likely 653 or less

[kind nimbus]

Huh i have +0 rep

[rough bloom]

idk tatsu points system is confusing I don't remember how it works

[fathom glade]

XP or score

[kind nimbus]

No clue how that point system works lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1465812359510757570/Neuro-samathink.gif

[fast pagoda]

5 minute cooldown

sorry

2

minujte

minute

10-20 xp each message

[kind nimbus]

Oh rep is awarded by others i see

https://tatsu.fandom.com/wiki/Reputation

[rigid snow]

saw this headline

ASUS Dismisses Apple’s MacBook Neo as ‘Just a Tablet’

and had to dig deeper - of course it's clickbait. asus co-ceo had this to say:

Despite the competitive threat, Hsu argued that the MacBook Neo could have limited appeal. He pointed to the laptop's 8GB of "unified memory," or what amounts to its RAM, and how customers can't upgrade it.

He also described the MacBook Neo as a “content consumption” device, similar to an iPad. “This is different from the use case of a mainstream notebook," which can handle more compute-intensive tasks, Hsu said.

oh they're cooked

[kind nimbus]

Asus is fully cooked

[rough bloom]

holy

[kind nimbus]

They aren't allowed to sell their products anymore here lmao

[minor sail]

Why?

[kind nimbus]

Because of a Nokia lawsuit apparently

[minor sail]

ah

[kind nimbus]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/acer-and-asus-shut-down-support-for-pc-and-laptops-in-wake-of-patent-dispute-ruling-drivers-and-updates-inaccessible-to-existing-customers-german-website-finds-a-workaround

Nokia HEVC video codec patent

[rigid snow]

and to be clear by this i mean the laptop market as a whole, not just asus

as an owner of a very similarly specced macbook (m1 8/256) i would recommend that over literally anything in the $500 range

also was very amusing to hear the "8gb literally unusable"

[midnight sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdym0akYCH4

random youtube recommendation

[rigid snow]

gui driver

[fast pagoda]

meanwhile reviews on 10 year old macbooks

[rigid snow]

is that the 2011 air

[fickle rain]

Uh where’s the kernel? I don’t see any kernel in thumbnail

[fast pagoda]

was like a 2017 air

or something

but yeah

[rigid snow]

the 2011 design

[rough bloom]

I'm not a laptop person but can confirm, in my experience entry-level Windows laptops are basically e-waste out of the box
the MacBook Neo wins by default as long as it's not complete garbage

[fast pagoda]

yeah

the e-waste

and they paid like $350 for it

10/10 looks expensive!

[fickle rain]

Yeah that just looks like using NT native API

[rigid snow]

it cannot be it has a really nice cpu

[fickle rain]

Which is fine, but where is kernel :(

[rigid snow]

only thing that i'm concerned about is no haptic trackpad but people say it feels fine so

[fast pagoda]

even to me

a certified apple dislike

[fickle rain]

M1 with better singlecore

[fast pagoda]

the neo is probably a good value

[fickle rain]

I think it’s better option than used M1 MBA

[fast pagoda]

as long as they dont fuck it up with stupid restrictions due to being an a18

[fickle rain]

(maybe if the MBA is 16/512 it’s better)

[midnight sigil]

dunno

I'm seeing a guy crashing out from debugging

[rigid snow]

i don't like m1 mba's

that mba design feels flimsy

[fast pagoda]

yeah i mean if you're gonna get a business degree

at least get an m5

[rigid snow]

a business degree

m5 for what

[minor sail]

doin the business

[rigid snow]

ms office ain't that serious 💔

[minor sail]

letting openclaw run your business in excel

[fickle rain]

Which also makes it better option than older used Thinkpads

[kind nimbus]

Using VBA

[minor sail]

;_;

[rigid snow]

i never even disabled sip

on mine

in like >4 years

[fickle rain]

Will Asahi ever run on it

[rigid snow]

does it run on >m2

yet

i thought it didn't

m1 is like a14 era

[opaque sigil]

looks like m2 support is sort of there, as in the basics are covered

M3 onwards forget about it

[rough bloom]

ye, M2 support is fine AFAIK

M3 and newer lacks GPU driver

[kind nimbus]

Has anyone tried AirLLM yet? It's probably horribly slow I assume ?

[rough bloom]

never tried but yes it's horribly slow

[opaque sigil]

is that one of the P2P ones

oh nvm

I remember this

[kind nimbus]

This here

https://github.com/lyogavin/airllm

[olive sable]

[mighty thorn]

[fast pagoda]

brain damage location identified

aawagga at 3k steps kek

this pc completely turned off when trying to start another run so i guess it's had enough

meta bought moltbook bruh

https://www.axios.com/2026/03/10/meta-facebook-moltbook-agent-social-network

[olive sable]

anyone want it?

[split steppe]

i'll take it

[flint dome]

no but i want an ssd

[split steppe]

lowest price i can find here is 1020 eur

[olive sable]

Like fr?

I can ship it

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/baothelop-glasses-bunny-professorial-gif-5087943380944875848

[split steppe]

man if i wasnt saving rn i would have done it no questions

[olive sable]

[split steppe]

24G would be perf to run a decent ai model and game

i could sell my shitcoins but im waiting for another bull run (yes i bought the peak)

[glass jetty]

no

[nocturne olive]

I'll be fine with the 3090

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1430640980607897751.webp?size=48&name=DuranDuran&lossless=true

doesnt even embed

[midnight sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/neurosama-neuro-sama-gif-4374779630001464375

[sage crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1425866152424505394.png?size=160&name=ElvynSerius&lossless=true

[rough bloom]

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1421697759383130223.webp?size=48&name=smogfrog&lossless=true

[midnight sigil]

{"message":"Invalid resource \"https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1430640980607897751.webp?size=48\""}

ip grabber

[fast pagoda]

cant post what i must post

it's over

[midnight sigil]

get zepped

[idle dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1460258687909236891/ezgif-710dcf7ba09ac12f.gif

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1460031442292703556.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=autismu&lossless=true

[idle dune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1460031442292703556.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=autismu&lossless=true

[obsidian mantle]

i hate this so much

[opaque sigil]

== does not work on c-strings

or well, it does you just compare addresses

[sage crag]

intern strings

smog

[obsidian mantle]

the adresses are different

contents are the same

i just slam it to strings when i find this

[opaque sigil]

welcome to the 70s

[obsidian mantle]

but this should be illegal

to make me do it

[opaque sigil]

why

[obsidian mantle]

it looks stupid

i can understand when you convert it to string because you need to do some find_last_of shit

but comparing should work out of the box

[opaque sigil]

you can do std::string_view too, less heavy than full strings

[true hemlock]

fun fact, any 16 digit number with 4 times repeating of 4 digits are divisible by 17
example: 2345234523452345

[obsidian mantle]

why

coincidence?

[true hemlock]

i don't fucking know

[obsidian mantle]

[true hemlock]

but now i fucking hate the number 17

[opaque sigil]

it does when you use an actual string type

[obsidian mantle]

math devs

[sage crag]

its not coincidental

[tender river]

its divisible by 1000100010001

1000100010001 is divisible by 17

[sage crag]

if you let the 4 digit part be x, then the 16 digit number is
x*10^12 + x*10^8 + x*10^4 + x
= x(10^12 + 10^8 + 10^4 + 1)

and it so happens that the numeric part is divisible by 17

you can call it a coincidence if you want, i wouldnt consider it one though

manufactured coincidence

[sage crag]

any 16 digit number with 4 times repeating of 4 digits is divisible by any of these numbers

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154436961277313126.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=evilSlam&lossless=true

[obsidian mantle]

[tender river]

its reminiscent of bitwise tricks

[sage crag]

divisibility

magic bitwise hack

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154436961277313126.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=evilSlam&lossless=true

[tender river]

in many number theory problem

its more efficient to do operations on factorized numbers

[sage crag]

ye

similarly more efficient to do operations on the fourier transform of an input

issue

factorising and fourier transform are both nontrivial

[tender river]

my factorized number impl

for competitive programming

[sage crag]

well, factorising is trivial but prime factorising is not

factor of x is x, factored

smog

[glass jetty]

static cast plz

also it is outdated

[tender river]

no

[glass jetty]

you can make some checks with this

no need for using factom struct

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1425862407800230051.webp?size=48&name=TheEvilEye&lossless=true

dentge

[tender river]

unrelate

[sage crag]

unrelate entirely

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1425862407800230051.webp?size=48&name=TheEvilEye&lossless=true

[tender river]

[sage crag]

nneuro5

neuro7

neuro11

neuro13

neuro17

neuro23

neuro29

uh

i dont know my primes

neuro31

37?

43 maybe

seems prime-y

53

[tender river]

not 41?

[sage crag]

41

[tender river]

smog

[sage crag]

59

uh

61

[tender river]

47

[sage crag]

right

67 also

[glass jetty]

i not care i am drunk i cant read

[sage crag]

71

73

[glass jetty]

is it new?

[sage crag]

79 maybe

[glass jetty]

[sage crag]

these are coming from memory, divisibility checks are for nerds

[tender river]

i only know the 3 divisibility check

[sage crag]

83 is probably a prime

it looks like a prime

[olive sable]

i bought

sd card

[sage crag]

97 is the last prime before 100

ye

i remember that one

[olive sable]

100 is not prime

[sage crag]

obviously

[olive sable]

yer

[sage crag]

good job

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

big gap between 83 and 97

[sage crag]

the prime gap approximation function

what was it

[tender river]

prime number battle royale

in every round

delete smallest prime number

[olive sable]

89 not prime?

[sage crag]

..

it is

[olive sable]

thats crazy

i remmeber some of my primes

[sage crag]

i havent actually verified any of these primes they could be fake

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154436961277313126.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=evilSlam&lossless=true

[olive sable]

[thorny marsh]

boom

[tender river]

do NOT buy primes from konii

unreputable seller

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1430636309319385109.webp?size=48&name=AtorinSad&lossless=true

please buy my primes

[olive sable]

bwaa

[thorny marsh]

how many nueros

[tender river]

[sage crag]

oh here's a memorable prime

[thorny marsh]

wait its neuros isnt it

[split steppe]

[sage crag]

10007

[olive sable]

i cant help but think of the 8 euro drink when we're talking about selling primes

[split steppe]

give you a fiver for it

[sage crag]

i think

100000007 is also a prime apparently

didnt know that one

[tender river]

10^8+7 and 10^9+7 i think

used often in competitive programming

[olive sable]

12345678910987654321

prime

[sage crag]

this number is not highly composite

[thorny marsh]

are there any competitive programmers here? owo

[sage crag]

no they all

[tender river]

me

[sage crag]

no you arent a programmer

[tender river]

[sage crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1432142118624825556.png?size=160&name=StareAtYouNeuro&lossless=true

[olive sable]

me

[sage crag]

just a competitive

[split steppe]

competitive ranked programming

[thorny marsh]

competitive osu player mabe

[thorny marsh]

whats the prize pool

[olive sable]

3 cookies

i ate the other 2

[split steppe]

[thorny marsh]

arent there like a lot of neuro bank notes why is 5neuros used so often lol

[gentle haven]

Wrrrrrr

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/baothelop-glasses-bunny-professorial-gif-5087943380944875848

wrr

[split steppe]

cuz 5bucks

there's 1 5 and 10 it seems

[thorny marsh]

thats your overall event budget tho

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1131734071446347939.webp?size=48&name=20neuros&lossless=true

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1131734086306762812.webp?size=48&name=50neuros&lossless=true

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1131734099762098196.webp?size=48&name=100neuros&lossless=true

bank of neuro

[split steppe]

[thorny marsh]

my BoN card is probably disabled/expired by now lmao

[idle dune]

[fast pagoda]

TFW nvcc too smart and discards my throughput measurement because it's technically pointless

[opaque sigil]

when in doubt throw an empty assembly statement at it

[ebon basin]

GPT 5.4 is so cracked

I let it write math proves that the code is correct

Let it write doc strings with post and pre tags to find the invariant and it will find any possible bug

[opaque sigil]

https://huggingface.co/nvidia/NVIDIA-Nemotron-3-Super-120B-A12B-BF16 new nvidia model, includes some of the training data too

mamba, interesting

pre-trained in nvfp4 supposedly

[mighty thorn]

Me in a not advancing the field competition and my opponent releases MoE LLMs

[opaque sigil]

it's actually kind of interesting, the whole MoE part happens in latent space supposedly and mamba blocks seem to help quite a bit with performance at least

[amber fractal]

I could maybe see it

I do want to do some independent testing though

[opaque sigil]

mamba is inherently lossy but way faster so makes sense i guess that you can have it do most of the work and sprinkle in a couple attention blocks to make up for that

[amber fractal]

MoE layers is new to me, I'm practically already planning on doing MoE in latent space thanks to doing patching before MoE main model

[fast pagoda]

me when package expects cu126 to be what i need and i have redownload 10gb of torch again to not instantly explode

[amber fractal]

[opaque sigil]

i'm so happy i don't have to deal with cuda bindings, though in return i get to patch half the dependencies

[fast pagoda]

god i love ai training toolkits, trying to mess w/ ai toolkit instead of writing my own training script every time i want to run it and the shit has conflicts in its own requirements.txt (unrelated to cuda/rocm)

pins scipy==1.12.0 which conflicts with numpy >2.0 which is over a year old

[opaque sigil]

tbf most of the time people just pin to whatever they happen to be using or even just use pip freeze, chances are it'll work with a newer version either way

[fast pagoda]

welp scipy>=1.14.0 randomly resulted in, instead of changing the scipy i built, it instead rebuilt with numpy==1.26.4

whatever

works

[fast pagoda]

that's what all these do yea, it wasn't ai toolkit i think it was llama factory i tried to install wayyyyyyyyyyy back in the day

wasted like 2 hours of H100 time because it wouldnt' fucking build

it had like SGLang pinned with some horrible version that was breaking literally everything else, which when I figured that out, it wasn't even the only broken and/or conflicting package in there, it was like a clown car opened up with more conflicts

and that's when I just fuck it i'll write a goddamn script

for the last 2 years

[opaque sigil]

[fast pagoda]

the most expensive series of python errors ive ever encounter

[olive sable]

i hate making ui frameworks

id rather jsut make the ui

without frameworks

i hate figma

[sage crag]

spoon

[minor sail]

🥄

[olive sable]

🥄

[chrome rampart]

[sage crag]

not you

[chrome rampart]

[olive sable]

buh

[midnight sigil]

🥄

[rancid ore]

speaking of ui does anyone know how to get unity's ui layout system to behave in a predictable way

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

yes, make it crash or dont use it

highly predictable

[kind nimbus]

God I hate Nvidia so much

why

seems like a context overflow caused the entire Nvidia driver to crash lmao

[split steppe]

i'm in my chinese era

https://tenor.com/l9PsNMQ9Oud.gif

[minor sail]

🇨🇳

[olive sable]

[dull egret]

Now, just... Give it a few more weeks, and there will be a keyboard, and a mouse, and RGB, and a gamepad, and a cool flip-up tray, and some audio equipment, and a carefully placed programming book or two, and bags of cheetos, and maybe cup holders

Few more weeks after that, and there will be the tablets and maybe even one of the monitors I plan to mount overhead

[olive sable]

sure

[dull egret]

You just gotta... imagine, for the moment...

Soon™

[olive sable]

i jsut dont put much faith in the wood structure you have rn

[dull egret]

Well, it's not done, so neither would I, atm.

But when it IS done...

[dull egret]

I picked up some clearance 2x4 Douglas Fir, the other day, actually.

Nice price. Gonna use that for the base, to attach it to a heavy duty pallet thing I have in my living room.

Bc this is VERY LIKELY... To go above and beyond any weight limits the OG company recommends for the chair's wheels, maybe even the piston...

[azure lynx]

abusing the piston by applying too much weight/force on it will probably kill it faster.
pretty sure that's what happened to my last chair's piston from me bouncing up and down on it and sitting into it from extreme heights.

eventually it'd only go to about 1/2 height and felt very soft.

[idle dune]

The Macbook Neo is the same colour as some older ipod minis

[olive sable]

thats actually cool

[idle dune]

[amber fractal]

gleem colored

[patent shard]

dats a fast

[opaque sigil]

idk about same, similar though I guess aka greenish

[olive sable]

looks close enough to me

im still red-green colourblind tho

[amber fractal]

Also on close enough

[olive sable]

might just be the lighting or so

but i feel like apple as a company would be reussing colours for their metal finishes

[opaque sigil]

the laptop is more yellow, I forgot I had my night light on ngl I guess without the warm colours it looks a lot closer

[olive sable]

dependency failed for file system check on /dev/disk/by-uuid5DE9-AB95
dependency failed for /boot
dependency failed for unattended upgrades shutdown
dependency failed for local file systems

linux hates me

[ivory plinth]

[olive sable]

this was not even something i did myself

i just downgraded to linux 5.10

[ivory plinth]

[olive sable]

this is an official orangepi debian release

[opaque sigil]

smells like missing kernel api something expects to be there

based on nothing but vibes

[olive sable]

it jsut didnt change the default uuid for the boot partitian apparently

i got the uuid form the guy that uploaded that download link i guess

[opaque sigil]

oh that'll do it

[wraith marsh]

Hey everyone. I have an idea but am not too good at coding. I want to share it just in case someone else likes it and thinks they could use it for Neuro. So you know how we have the Neuro SDK? I saw dougdoug try making music in a DAW/app that lets you make music in JavaScript. I can code but not too well, I’m more of a game dev. So yah, if anyone wants that idea I’d love to see that project shared on here allowing neuro to try and make scuff music like how she draws! It would be great! Have a good night everyone and AI’s!

[olive sable]

[mighty thorn]

[olive sable]

[mighty thorn]

[olive sable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1426254498678046750.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf&lossless=true

[mighty thorn]

[minor sail]

[olive sable]

im genuinly suprised i havent had OOM with only 16gb

6GB of ram used with all cores compiling at the same time is wild

[mighty thorn]

You have used this so many times in so many contexts that I now see it more as a punctuation mark than an image

[olive sable]

is kinda just like

but more judging

instead of "oh, i see"
its like "hmmmmm, i see"

[minor sail]

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

compilation doesn't take much memory, linking is the brutal phase

[olive sable]

does it just not need to link these or something?

cuz i dont notice any unnusual ram usage

the gskill people said it might take 3 weeks for my new ram to be processed. and the with shipping back to my house if it gets accepted. im probably still a month away from going back to 64gb

ooooh

the pi booted

with my own kernel

unles sits still using the old kernel

[leaden crest]

[opaque sigil]

the linux kernel basically just takes a bunch of relevant object files and links those together into a static library and then throws all those static libraries together

there is no singular massive linking step like what you might have when compiling idk, clang

[olive sable]

thats good for compiling it i guess

[opaque sigil]

there's just so many damn drivers that most of the time is spent compiling

[olive sable]

some nintendo device on my network allows ssh

its asking me for a password instead of straight up refusing

[minor sail]

Nintendo pls

[olive sable]

it might be the switch 2?

[opaque sigil]

well, give it the password smh

[olive sable]

maybe a homebrew wii?

[kind nimbus]

Is your name Linus Sebastian by any chance? lmao

[olive sable]

i dont think it is

[kind nimbus]

then at least thats not the reason why Linux hates you

[fast pagoda]

explained in 1 utterance

hyprland

[olive sable]

im not putting hyprland on th epi

this is the server version

without a gui

[olive sable]

i made that kernel

thats mine

or well, i compiled it

this took like 2 or 3 weeks

fuckkkkkkk

now lets see about fixing that hdmirx driver

[abstract bronze]

[olive sable]

[abstract bronze]

hello does uhh anyone know how to use discord.py

async def polltest(ctx):
    p = discord.Poll(question="testQues", duration=timedelta(hours=1.0))
    for names in userNames.keys():
        p.add_answer(text=names)
    queb = await ctx.send(poll=p)
    pollID = queb.id
    await asyncio.sleep(3)
    await p.end()
    print(pollID)
    pollResults = pollID.poll.results
    print(pollID)
    print(pollResults)
    if pollResults.is_finalized:
        print("done")
    else:
        print("failed")```

i did this thingy to make a poll and try to get the results from it but line 12 doesnt execute

and im not sure why

smth with 11 breaks

online somewhere it says a message can have the poll and results attributes but it seems like it doesnt work and idk why

[olive sable]

not me

[abstract bronze]

[opaque sigil]

now rebase onto 7.0-rc3

[olive sable]

idk what that is, nor what it does

and i will choose to not do so

[opaque sigil]

taking the orange pi changes and applying them to the latest kernel

[olive sable]

oh

hell nah

id rather just use a pc at that point

capture cards arent thaaat expensive

it appears there are 2 hardcoded edid blocks, and a "user" mode, but idk how to force it into user mode

it defaults to 340M version, which is probably why it was struggeling with more than 1080p60

its actualyl not too hard to recompile the kernel once you stop it being broken

well, this is new

[jagged turtle]

do you have a stack trace somewhere?

[abstract bronze]

So I figured out that uhh line 11 is something someone somewhere made up so I need to get the victor_answer

Also I don’t know what a stack trace means I can’t lie

I’m pretty newish to coding

[opaque sigil]

when in doubt, read the friendly manual

[azure lynx]

i'm making a server which loads Z-machine games (like Infocom interactive fictions) for my agent to play and wanted a restful interface.
which means i can't make it do GET /lantern when I type pick up lantern. oh well.

[patent shard]

Blender 5.1 in 5 days

[azure lynx]

(also no PUT /rabbit/in/device, PATCH /boat)

[abstract bronze]

What a coinkidink clip studio paint came out with their 5.0 like a few days ago

It’s like 30$ to upgrade from my 4.0 tho so

I don’t think I’ll do that yet