programming

[fast pagoda]

i hate this timeline

thought it would never be more absurd than teh gpu shortage in covid times

it's probably my fault for thinking that

now the universe is just messing w/ me and by extension all of earth

[silent island]

What an absurd time we're living rn...
Ram sticks costing as much as a base PS5
8gh laptops costing 600 bucks
And 16gb laptops becoming non existent
Damn

[fast pagoda]

i think am4 w/ ddr4 obv was suddenly accounting for like 40% of all pc builds in the last months

on like amazon or something

because people are so desperate they overpay for the previous gen as well

super grim

[silent island]

Even my gaming laptop has gotten up in price lmaoo

I bought it for 780 bucks, now it costs a 1000 bucks for the same exact configurations lmaooo

[fast pagoda]

i dont know if i want to see what my mini is now going for

this is not the same exact model (different oem) but it has the same specs

i paid

$300

[sage crag]

2.3x

[fast pagoda]

so ram up 4x since purchase

mini pc up 2.3x

storage up 1000% at least

100%*

extra 0

but depends on the drive also

[sage crag]

if you use those ratios you can approximate how much each of the components cost originally

[fast pagoda]

i have no idea what the people who are pricing 9100 pros w/ 4tb at like $1500 are smoking

8tb i saw for a sn 8100x at microcenter for $2800

absolutely insane

[sage crag]

2.3c = 4r + 2s + ...
c = 300

[fast pagoda]

flashbacks to algebra class in middle school and someone yelling from the back "BUT WHY DO WE NEED TO KNOW THIS, IT DOESNT GIVE ME ANY PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE!!!!!"

[silent island]

Aint no way Switch 2s be costing 560-650 bucks dawggg
Im cookeedd ☠️

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/crash-out-bunny-rabbit-im-gif-10075768982376662002

[amber fractal]

I wonder how my N100 mini PC with 16gb ddr5 ram is holding up

[lean stream]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[minor sail]

do not use the same variable name in your parameter of the wait function definition. That's confusing and can cause issues.

[lean stream]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[silent island]

YOOOO aint no way my mom's 14 yo netbook still boots lmaooooo

[lean stream]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[minor sail]

Is it because you're defining a function in a loop like that? I dunno much about how python handles lambdas

oh weird, python actually has a lambda keyword to use when you want to make a lambda like that. Maybe that's what's going on?

[amber fractal]

your not passing any n into your function

[lean stream]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[amber fractal]

I'm going to ignore the next issue this will have and say you need to define the coinflip function to take in n

[amber fractal]

A function should work, however still contains it's own context block. Both methods can take in from the environment as is and context capture existing state to use inside.

[minor sail]

The coinflip function doesn't have n in its context? I'm pretty sure in js that it'd be fine kinda like that

Ah

[amber fractal]

I've had to do some stuff based on that method so I roughly understand what it is doing

the next error after n is passed in is going to be n doesn't update because of local var things

that'll require to return the n and do n = func(n) to mutate the state

overall, one of the more jank methods I've seen

[hard delta]

pro gaming

[olive sable]

Goodmorning

[sage crag]

lop

[silent island]

chattt

i got a time capsule

[hard delta]

it bounces to 3 different uncontrollable spots and then falls cleanly down in the middle with no way to hit it

[olive sable]

[silent island]

nah

[hard delta]

this game was such ragebait

cause there were like several ways the ball could exit with no player control

😔

[olive sable]

found the hdmirx rockchip drivers
im in

why are you broken?

[split steppe]

found your problem

[olive sable]

[split steppe]

i'm not telling

[olive sable]

sure buddy

i think i might jsut need to make these timings less strict

[fast pagoda]

where linter

[olive sable]

wdym?

[fast pagoda]

all my code has these red squigglies under it all the time

so like urs dosent

wtf???

[split steppe]

he's too cool for linters

[olive sable]

you're asking why this code isnt broken?

[fast pagoda]

yes im shitposting

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

time to write a .clangd

[olive sable]

i feel like, as soon as you run out of your free chatgpt 5.0 usage, they give you a lobotomized model that you have to use 6x as many prompts on to get anywhere with

so you end up costing them more, and not less

[opaque sigil]

there's an easy solution to this problem

[split steppe]

brain is free

[opaque sigil]

https://aistudio.google.com

that too

but brain is dumb

[split steppe]

brain dumb when not used

use brain, make brain smart

[olive sable]

my brain doesnt nknowe the intricacies of hdmirx drivers

so im relying on ai models to be less dumb than me

im not aiming to know this stuff by heart, as soon as im done patching these shitty drivers im never touching this again

i might do a pr tho

if it works

[olive sable]

im hoping i wont have to

[opaque sigil]

it takes like 2 minutes to find the paths, just do it

Unless you don't have the source code I guess

[olive sable]

i downloaded the entire repo

so i should have the full kernel

[split steppe]

it's likely just import paths misconfigured in the intellisense/lsp

[olive sable]

thats fine as long as it compiles

compiling

[opaque sigil]

[silent island]

0 am...
Reached the dark hour

[olive sable]

charge your phone

[leaden crest]

twin

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

t

[fast pagoda]

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/crash-out-bunny-rabbit-im-gif-10075768982376662002

[fast pagoda]

[olive sable]

🐰

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/crash-out-bunny-rabbit-im-gif-10075768982376662002

[olive sable]

i may have killed the sd card

apparenlty if it hits 100% usage it just shoots itself?

[leaden crest]

theres jokes to be made here but none of them are appropriate

[olive sable]

[royal hearth]

Tomorrow is Miku day in UK
But it's already is Miku day in Japan now
How it does feels?

[primal plover]

Hello

[hollow matrix]

New user, remember to read the #rules and wish @real sierra a happy birthday every day

[primal plover]

Happy birthday everyday ??

[hollow matrix]

[primal plover]

I am Sorry but I don't understand what do you mean

[hollow matrix]

It's just something that's done here

[primal plover]

Your birthday

[stray dragon]

hi konii

[patent shard]

shiro has gotten 9,362 pings wishing them a happy birthday
people are so nice

[olive sable]

welp, with the 8gb sd card dead, my only other one is 4gb

going to 100% is gonna be even more of an issue on that one

[patent shard]

2007 sizes

[olive sable]

i dont really want to spend money on new sd cards

or well, micro-sd cards. i have plenty of sd cards, but not a lot of micro-sd

[opaque sigil]

surely you can just cut them down like sim cards

[patent shard]

what's the max for the default format
oh, micro-sd? there's a 4gb micro sd card?

[olive sable]

i have it in my hands

so yes

it came with my 3d printer

i do have a 64gb micro-sd card, but its in my phone and i dont really want to deal with transfering the files elsewhere

[patent shard]

1.5tb micro sd used to be $85 and now it's like $250

[olive sable]

[patent shard]

I miss the 2tb 670p $63 and 2tb p44 pro $105 days

p44 is basically a p41 but without the firmware issues

4tb mp34 for $150 was also really good
I miss those days

[sage crag]

hjf

t

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-pats-pet-bunny-pats-gif-19861222

[stray dragon]

hjf

konii

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126496895246807123/1433049661270261871/ShouldICelebrate.gif

t

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-hit-kitten-hitting-kitten-hitting-camera-kitten-slapping-cat-hit-gif-5248570956277630634

[stray dragon]

what

ow ow ow ow ow

stop hitting me

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421861060507602944/1425936142754123927/neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf.webp

nrr

hit

[stray dragon]

it's hi t not hit :(

[sage crag]

hi t

[stray dragon]

hi konii

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mini-miniko-minikomew-gif-17857450978747562560

[glad path]

hi t

[stray dragon]

hi prismatic

[glass jetty]

i did such shitty code

no research - no design
next time...

[kind fable]

one day i'll be able to post screenshots here and actually talk

so painful that i'd like to talk code here but since i can't post screenshots or embeds i'm not really incentivized to talk so i don't end up getting the perm and it's just bad feedback loop...

[split steppe]

i'm sure we'll make it out of the purgatory

[glad path]

just yap

its not tht bad lol

[split steppe]

i need it to brag about my pristine error-free code

[kind fable]

yep but i'm a code yapper

and to yap about code i need to share

like i need to show people how awful my code is

[split steppe]

dump the source in text, i'm sure everyone will love it :V

[kind fable]

the crimes i do against all of humanity

[hard delta]

hello prog chat

today i realized

[kind fable]

here we go good idea

[hard delta]

frieren is the most prog vibe

[split steppe]

if the code is something like >100-200loc discord will collapse it, just make sure it's in a code block

[split steppe]

interesting take, how'd you figure that?

i thought the canonical prog vibe is lain

[hard delta]

lain is the canonical schizophrenia vibe honestly. it's superficially prog, but not otherwise.
actual programming in real life is more like how frieren and fern learn magic

[kind fable]

am i crazy for just wanting a little readable understandable assert in my web dev stuff 😭
consultations.vue:27-28

assertNotNull(patient.value);
consultations.value = await Consultations.getAll(patient.value.id);

utils.ts

export function assertNotNull<T>(value: T, name?: string): asserts value is Exclude<T, null> {
    if (value === null) {
        throw new Error(`${name} is null`);
    }
}

vite.config.ts:4-11

const assertNotNullNamePlugin = () => ({
    name: "assert-not-null-name",
    transform(code: string, id: string): string | undefined {
        if (/\.(?:vue|ts)$/.test(id)) {
            return code.replace(/assertNotNull\(([^,)]+)\)/g, "assertNotNull($1, `$1`)");
        }
    },
});

dammit vue doesn't get syntax highlighting

[hard delta]

you will (soon) live to see a time when vue is considered and obsolete legacy framework
kinda like what eclipse is though of as today as an ide

[split steppe]

while yall are struggling with others frameworks, i'm making my own

i'll be top of the food chain

[kind fable]

what will happen is that i just won't use this sh*t lmao
only reason for me doing web dev is school
i'm a low-level / backend enjoyer

i think that Java is the way
(no genuinely Java 25 is really nice and the highest level i'll go)

[split steppe]

kinda fair actually

[hard delta]

two digit java versions starting with a 2 exist

damn

[kind fable]

we've come a long way since Java 8

[split steppe]

php is the way for web, always has been, always will be

scalable, efficient, pragmatic, easily adapts to needs, easy to host

[kind fable]

i'm for having frontend in proper plain HTML/CSS and with the minimum amount of JS, just to do the queries
and for the backend anything works really
C is W, C++ has nice std and templates, but it has eeeeeh OOP
Java is easier cause less need to think about memory and if you don't fall into the inheritance OOP stuff, it's nice
php ig can work but i'm so used in doing CTF where we get to buse a weird PHP bug that i just don't trust it

[split steppe]

php bug or some framework/cms bug

i find php very reasonable security wise, plus basically all system maintainers are invested in keeping it patched

[kind fable]

tbh ok it's more mixed, it's not always PHP
but it's often PHP

[split steppe]

99% of the time it's dev error not a php issue

nowadays anyway

which is kind of why i'm building my own stack, minmaxing everything for security and perf

[olive sable]

Since when did normal stores stop having sd cards?

[split steppe]

have they ever had them?

[unkempt citrus]

since people stopped using them and just using cloud instead

They used to be pretty common when digital cameras were around but not smart phones

[split steppe]

people stopped using
you mean corpos stopped supporting them :V

[unkempt citrus]

But with a smartphone, why bother with a digital camera

so the sd card fell off a bit

[olive sable]

i swear stores had sd cards even 3 years ago. at the cash registrers

[unkempt citrus]

I mightve seen the odd usb but sd cards not in a long time

[split steppe]

sd card didn't fall off because of phones, if anything it was their most popular use precisely because of small internal phone storage and phones having cameras, just that phone manufacturers decided "no more" around 2016 and removed the slot from phones, so that's pretty much most of their modern use gone

[unkempt citrus]

Thats microsd

I'm mostly talking abuot the original SD

[split steppe]

original sd sure

[unkempt citrus]

And plenty of phones have microsd, its just usually not in the base model

Need to upgrade to double sim models

[split steppe]

i don't think i've seen plain SD for like 20 years though, it was for a very long time micro with an adapter

[olive sable]

im talking about sd cards as the umbrella term for both micro and normal sd

[unkempt citrus]

Digital cameras have a decent number of full SD

[olive sable]

ye

[unkempt citrus]

But its less common becasue microSD size has caught up

[olive sable]

im searching specifically for micro-sd to clariffy

but the stores didnt have either

[split steppe]

tech shops/carrier shops will have em surely

repair shops as well

[olive sable]

tech shops sure, but they're not open on sunday

[split steppe]

maybe some repair shop, if you're in a place with those

[olive sable]

nope

[unkempt citrus]

amazon is your other option

[split steppe]

rip, guess you have to wait till monday

[olive sable]

ill jsut have to wait till tech stores ar eoipen, or order one and hope it arrives soon

[unkempt citrus]

Do you not have like big general stores with a small tech section?

[olive sable]

irl store will probably be faster

[unkempt citrus]

Those usually have sd cards down here

[olive sable]

negative

[unkempt citrus]

ptooey

video game store?

[olive sable]

a city over, but closed already

[split steppe]

i haven't seen storage at all in a general store tech section for a long time, it's always cables, batteries and doodads

[olive sable]

its 8pm now so pretty much all the stores are closing now

this sd card died at the worst time

[unkempt citrus]

Target and Big W and the like down here have cameras, video games, usbs, sd cards etc

[split steppe]

sleep on it hah

[olive sable]

we dont have those in europe

[split steppe]

sam's euro from the sound

[unkempt citrus]

Yeah dutch from memory

[olive sable]

close

belgian

[split steppe]

lmao

[olive sable]

[unkempt citrus]

stationary stores?

They might have some

[split steppe]

everything's closed by now

it's night

[unkempt citrus]

Ah right

didn't account for that

[olive sable]

i tried 5. 2 were closed eventho they said 24/7. other ones just didn't have them

[unkempt citrus]

rip

[split steppe]

gas station, would be funny if they had it

[olive sable]

they used to have them

only options left are waiting, using the sd card in my phone, or using an nvme

[split steppe]

what are you cooking? don't tell me you tried to build the kernel on the sd card?

[olive sable]

i built it on my desktop

but it kept the 6gb of source code in a "sources" folder

and i then did scp to the pi

which killed the sd card

[kind fable]

well, phones can't have those, proper cameras actually have dedicated shops, people use usb keys for pc
i guess the only modern use is for consoles...

[unkempt citrus]

and embedded

[split steppe]

hm, that shouldn't have killed it, unless it overheated or was some knockoff

[olive sable]

phones can have those, my phone has one right now

[kind fable]

some, not all anymore sadly

[glass jetty]

'post screenshot to talkk about code'
man, use ```cpp
// normal code blocks

[olive sable]

it jsut showed 100% usage. then it died

[kind fable]

we lost the battle

[split steppe]

have you tried taking it out and putting it back in

:B

[olive sable]

yes

twice

[unkempt citrus]

Most dual sims in my experience can use one as MicroSD

[split steppe]

lick it

[unkempt citrus]

so its not the most uncommon

[kind fable]

yeah but nah being able to post IDE screenshot better, actually show everything with syntax highlighting which is correct and also more context

[olive sable]

sure???

[unkempt citrus]

I also recommend licking batteries

[split steppe]

if you have a linux, check dmesg and lsblk if it's detected by your reader

[olive sable]

[18285.812341] usb 4-4: USB disconnect, device number 4
[18315.549874] usb 4-4: new SuperSpeed USB device number 5 using xhci_hcd
[18315.564285] usb 4-4: New USB device found, idVendor=8564, idProduct=4000, bcdDevice= 0.09
[18315.564289] usb 4-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=4, SerialNumber=2
[18315.564292] usb 4-4: Product: Transcend
[18315.564294] usb 4-4: Manufacturer: TS-RDF5A
[18315.564296] usb 4-4: SerialNumber: 000000000009
[18315.564982] usb-storage 4-4:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[18315.565145] scsi host10: usb-storage 4-4:1.0
[18316.592263] scsi 10:0:0:0: Direct-Access     TS-RDF5A Transcend        0009 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
[18320.516730] sd 10:0:0:0: [sde] Spinning up disk...

and it doesnt show up on lsblk

[split steppe]

if it died in the middle of a write it could have a corrupt fs, which wouldn't mount but could still be detected

[glass jetty]

nah, code blocks always better
like <> vs {}

}
cvk::future<tl::expected<Unit,std::error_code>> Connection::read_some_reliable(std::span<uint8_t> out_buffer, uint32_t amount/*0 == max possible */){
    uint32_t was_read = 0;
    if(amount > out_buffer.size() and amount not_eq 0) {
        co_return tl::unexpected{std::make_error_code(std::errc::no_buffer_space)};
    }
    uint32_t need_read = amount == 0 ? (uint32_t)out_buffer.size() : amount;
    while(was_read not_eq need_read){
        auto exp = co_await read_some(out_buffer.subspan(was_read),need_read-was_read);
        if(not exp){co_return tl::unexpected{exp.error()};} // only if there was better way...
                                                // i start to thinking that and_then and or_else isnt such useful for inner code
        was_read += exp.value();
    }
    co_return {};
}

i think first is better

[kind fable]

ok but here you're showing something small

what if you want to actually show something bigger

[olive sable]

so since it doesnt show up on lsblk its fully dead

lsblk
NAME        MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
sda           8:0    0 223.6G  0 disk 
├─sda1        8:1    0    16M  0 part 
└─sda2        8:2    0 223.6G  0 part 
sdb           8:16   0 223.6G  0 disk 
├─sdb1        8:17   0     2G  0 part 
└─sdb2        8:18   0 221.6G  0 part 
sdc           8:32   0  14.6T  0 disk 
└─sdc1        8:33   0  14.6T  0 part 
sde           8:64   1     0B  0 disk 
nvme0n1     259:0    0   1.8T  0 disk 
├─nvme0n1p1 259:1    0     1G  0 part /boot
├─nvme0n1p2 259:2    0   1.8T  0 part /nix/store
│                                     /
└─nvme0n1p3 259:3    0   8.8G  0 part [SWAP]

[split steppe]

myeah seems like it

[glass jetty]

oh man you want to see something big? (i cant even fit img here)

[tranquil hemlock]

Oooh code swapping eh?

[split steppe]

mine's bigger

[kind fable]

see now it's actually better in the screenshot, cause you forgor to rename the file and thus we have a txt and no syntax highlighting and stuff

[glass jetty]

[unkempt citrus]

Its not the size that matters, its how well it achieves its goals

[kind fable]

also neovim enjoyer mmmmm

[glass jetty]

copy to your ide if you really want for cpp you have to download and at least once compile for clangd
like you cant fit same context on screenshot

[unkempt citrus]

besides, the big ones are mostly bloat if you ask me

[olive sable]

[split steppe]

everyone knows that lines of code is the best productivity measure

[glass jetty]

basically
when you talk about code you not want to talk about whole context

[kind fable]

you can tho

anyway one day i'll get embed perms and be able to show you

today is not gonna be the day tho...

[split steppe]

screenshots better, how else will we share our sexy editors

[amber fractal]

I look, I decide not to participate in this race

[split steppe]

that's bottom talk

[glass jetty]

i wonder is there better asio approach, or i have to finally use raw descriptor (so i have to learn all bounds than)
raw async descriptors do support concurrent read/write/wait
asio dont
https://github.com/CharaVerKys/vpverk/blob/master/src/shared/tun.cpp

[kind fable]

i need to be able to show i'm a soy dev using vscode and not a gigachad who use vim

[glass jetty]

[split steppe]

cpp as usual looking incomprehensible

[glass jetty]

[trim valve]

@true hemlock gonna get that heatsink you mentioned, is it worth also getting a different fan for it? also do you have any specific thermal paste recommendations or should I stop being a lazy bugger and find it myself

[kind fable]

tbh i only use vsc because i'm doing web dev stuff
when i do Java obv i'm on Jetbrains, IntelliJ IDEA very cool
-# ... and also i'm using VSC for my C(++) cause on Windows with WSL
-# i'm not ready to ascend yet to the true status of 10x dev, i'm still working on it

[tranquil hemlock]

Python/C#/Lisp is my cup of tea.

[young plover]

Clion works fine with WSL

[glass jetty]

wsl is shit
it cant handle threads normally
it literally break any thread model

[trim valve]

wsl or wsl2

[kind fable]

thing is VSC works better

[split steppe]

didn't wsl move to a VM so it works normally?

[kind fable]

uh ? no WSL2 is basically just a VM, but tightly integrated

[glass jetty]

when i tried to run up on windows under wsl, it just completely broke and unable to handle producer-consumer threads, they have to be realtime both

[trim valve]

[glass jetty]

and wsl just give like only one realtime thread load

[kind fable]

also now with WSLg, you even have seamless Linux GUI stuff

[young plover]

realtime threads on a PC
uh, yeah I can imagine why that doesn't work so well

[split steppe]

yea but who wants to stay on windows anyway 😛

[glass jetty]

erm?

[kind fable]

it use a system distro with weston to do wayland and give stuff

[split steppe]

i'm waiting for valve to behead windows once and for all with proton

[civic thicket]

True true

[unkempt citrus]

yeah not happening

[kind fable]

tbh i'm just giving myself time to swap
i'm on stable Win 10 and slowly transitioning to Linux
i had daily-driven Linux in the past when it was just not ready at all

[unkempt citrus]

Professional software is still absolute ass on linux

[split steppe]

i think i've daily driven linux since 2014 or something

it's aight

[unkempt citrus]

even if games are fine, enterprise is more important than gaming

[split steppe]

that's the thing, with proton it doesn't matter, just run your windows software

if they perfect it it's done

[unkempt citrus]

Any amount of debugging is too much though when it comes to shit like this

[kind fable]

i like linux, i mean there's a reason i'l using bash as my shell on windows, why i use WSL, firefox, gimp, libreoffice and many more, but it's just i'm yet missing some things from it

[unkempt citrus]

No one ever got fired for picking IBM Intel Windows

[young plover]

I just ripped the bandaid off a couple months ago. Booted into Windows like twice since switching. Once because I was troubleshooting a racing wheel. (linux handled it correctly, Forza's files required tweaking to recognize it on both platforms)

[olive sable]

ok, new idea. im stepping away from sd cards. i harvested a 512gb nvme from a laptop

[split steppe]

death opening doors meme

[split steppe]

atta

[unkempt citrus]

The first two are still true, its just less important because the competitors are solid now, but if you don't know

[glass jetty]

actually idk
i use windows for games only, it wasnt me who setup wsl on target machine, so it may not be wsl2, but i kind of believe that they installed latest
and it just not behave properly

i have 4 threads that should have maximal priority, 2 threads should work 90% of time for test machine cpu to be able to process input data, other 2 also realtime but just to respond fast

btw, after complete rewrite to msvc, without wsl layer that worked just the same (stable)

[unkempt citrus]

they are the default

[sage crag]

why didnt you start with this

even booting from an external sata drive over usb is faster than an sd card

sd cards are awful

[kind fable]

also there's very few things i'm still missing
i found nothing that can compare to Notepad++ on Linux
and running it via wine would kinda defeat its purpose as why it's so good is that it's low-level doing things on windows and the overhead you get makes it not worth it

[split steppe]

actually not sure you can get those priorities under wsl, i don't think it's got the perms

[sage crag]

try kwrite or kate

[olive sable]

because that laptop i used when my sister breaks her laptop every 3 months

[kind fable]

tried it, but i feel like it was just not as good

[glass jetty]

not in way you have 0% cpu time for one thread for 2 seconds
it is ubnormal for any condition

like literally 0 cerrs when i tried to debug this shit (with diff: 2*10^6 and more)

[split steppe]

2s response time is wild

[sage crag]

tried notepadqq?

[trim valve]

last I checked installing wsl still defaults to the original version

which is the one that has some cool behaviour at the expense of being really fragile

[glass jetty]

idk
anyway i have version for windows (differ drivers are windows only) now

[kind fable]

there's just a little issue

This project is not actively maintained anymore. New maintainers are welcome.
It has been reported that with the most recent OS/Qt versions, the program can crash unexpectedly. Use this at your own risk.

[sage crag]

its not an issue if you dont have any issues

[kind fable]

well...

[trim valve]

I've tried partly switching to linux, and its kinda nice

[kind fable]

thing is right now everything i do and want to do work and is in a state where it's just stable

[trim valve]

a lot of missing features though which is a pain

[sage crag]

ok so

try it

and if it sucks

dont use it

[split steppe]

sublimetext maybe, or i use zed nowadays - faster and leaner vscode

[trim valve]

especially because I use a lot of windows features which don't have a nice 1:1 analogue

like, on windows you can do win + arrow key to move a window to the side

kde sort of has this

[olive sable]

Ssd go brrr.
I wonder how im supposed to flash an os on it now. Sd card i could just plug into my pc but this i cant

[split steppe]

gnome has it as well

[kind fable]

tbh vscode is the shell of an IDE, notepad++ is less than that, it's just a strong text editor
i did see zed, but it's more akin to vscode which i'm not looking
sublime text ig, but it's somehow closer to a vscode than truly a text editor imo, altho closer than zed to notepad++

[kind fable]

you can do this depending on your WM it may require you to setup keybinds tho

[split steppe]

sublimetext doesn't really have anything by default, you have to explicitly enable and install the plugin system, otherwise it's just a fancy editor

[sage crag]

win + arrow is a common feature

[glass jetty]

for real nvim +gitsigns +nvim::lsp is everything you need

[sage crag]

even labwc has it

[split steppe]

yeah but it's vim

😛

[trim valve]

yeah but

[sage crag]

owobred

[trim valve]

I have a mental model of how windows moves when I do that

[sage crag]

[trim valve]

kde doesn't do that

[kind fable]

also we mean super + arrow

[trim valve]

[sage crag]

pedant

[kind fable]

:colon3:

[trim valve]

I don't see a key on my keyboard labelled super

[kind fable]

dammit fricking nitro

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/crash-out-bunny-rabbit-im-gif-10075768982376662002

[olive sable]

idea. i use the 4gb sd card as a temporary os

[sage crag]

if you understood the name then the communication was fine

[split steppe]

there's about 6 common desktop environments for linux yknow 😛

[sage crag]

win key, super key, if you ask 10 people, are they more likely to know win or super

[olive sable]

ye

[kind fable]

so as i was saying

[split steppe]

it's super key because you can change it to something else

[trim valve]

yeah but I like to stick to one, preferably wayland because my first experience with X was miserable

[olive sable]

i still say win key because super key is dumb when my keyboard has the windows logo on it

[sage crag]

you can use

[kind fable]

they are more likely to know win because the windows dominate

[kind fable]

yes but i like my :3

[sage crag]

its the windows key because it has the windows logo on it

[kind fable]

what if it doesn't tho

[sage crag]

and it seeped into pop culture

[trim valve]

I'll probably give gnome a try again, its just a bit of a hassle to make it nice on nixos because its not pre-packaged to quite the same level as ubuntu

[split steppe]

lucky, i've struggled with wayland for 6+ years now and it's just barely stable enough today to be usable

[olive sable]

you're allowed to call it super key once your keyboard has the text "super" on that key

[split steppe]

X11 has never failed me

[sage crag]

needing to clarify it as the super key is the same level of pedantry as correcting linux to "gnu+linux"

[trim valve]

X causes my mouse to feel like I'm in the BIOS trying to click stuff

[kind fable]

dammit

[sage crag]

x11 feels so choppy when you use a high hz monitor

thats the reason i was a wayland early adopter

[olive sable]

the only keyboards that dont have a windows logo there are apple keyboard or custom ones no?

[kind fable]

wanted to paste a screenshot of the keyboard i wanna have and can't 😭

[kind fable]

nope

wanted to show framework

[trim valve]

oh yeah the kde clipboard is certainly an experience

for some reason putting a screenshot on my clipboard only works 1/2 the time

[olive sable]

framework still just has a windows key

[kind fable]

feel free to laugh at this embed fail
https://static.frame.work/pe6u778j5kgixmaddjuetcsxzp12

[olive sable]

[kind fable]

this is gen 1 keyboard i think

[split steppe]

it's fascinating to read that people had x11 perform worse than wayland, i must be really unlucky, because wayland for me consistently had horrendous perf, gross screen tearing, blackouts, glitches, crashing and literally hundreds of other issues

across 7+ machines

i've never had it run well up until maybe ~1 year ago

[sage crag]

ive been using it for a few years

not full time though

i switched to it full time more than a year ago

[kind fable]

what thing do you use tho ?
some stuff are more stable and ready than other

[sage crag]

and ever since my nv gpu exploded ive had no reason to use x11

[olive sable]

runs perfectly fine for me. no issues at all

[kind fable]

i like XFCE and unless i swap out the WM, i basically don't have the wayland choice rn by example

[split steppe]

today maybe, wasn't the case a while back

[olive sable]

idk

ive been using wayland since july or so

[split steppe]

i've been force fed wayland since 2018 or something

[olive sable]

[split steppe]

cuz i use gnome lol

[olive sable]

why?

[split steppe]

gets out of my way, good defaults for what i do

i just install a panel and that's pretty much it

99.999% of the time i spend in a program, the rest is noise

[olive sable]

[split steppe]

gotta get those 5 nines in there

[olive sable]

i just find gnome ugly

[split steppe]

when i do a periodical system reset i just don't want to configure anything

i find it looks good enough

[kind fable]

That's why i use Xfce

[olive sable]

nixos

thats what nixos is for

[split steppe]

i don't think your camera's fps is fast enough lol

[trim valve]

yeah it won't be, but that's not really the issue

[split steppe]

i'm not learning an entire programming language to install notepad

[olive sable]

you wont

[unkempt citrus]

You can swap it out to a different keyboard variant

[olive sable]

nixos is not a programming language???

what?

its kinda like, an OS

nix OS

nixos

[unkempt citrus]

this one has framework logo instead

mine says super

[split steppe]

https://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.28/language/index.html

[kind fable]

Thanks for showing the image i linked

[split steppe]

nix is first and foremost a language, an os third

[olive sable]

you dont program in nix to use nixos.

[trim valve]

left one is Wayland, right is x

[olive sable]

you might edit the config file every now and then

but thats it

[split steppe]

i just find nix unreasonable

[olive sable]

nix has done nothing to deserve this

[kind fable]

Nix is not a programming language nor an OS
It's a philosophy

[olive sable]

nixos is an os tho

its in the name

[split steppe]

except pretend it can make an extremely dynamic software world deterministic

[olive sable]

because it does

[kind fable]

State doesn't exist copium

[chrome rampart]

you guys probably eat oreos with tooth paste filling

[unkempt citrus]

whats toothpaste?

Can I eat it

[olive sable]

[kind fable]

Thanks i'm stealing that meme

[chrome rampart]

bro doesn't know what toothpaste is

this is tragic

[olive sable]

that was obvious sarcasm

[split steppe]

paste made of teeth duh, what are you, dumb?

[chrome rampart]

toothpaste was created by linus

[opaque sigil]

me when i downgrade to a slightly older version of 1password and now it refuses to run unless i wipe it

[olive sable]

well, it does a better job than most alternatives

[kind fable]

You just need to downgrade the db

[chrome rampart]

deebee

[split steppe]

i use fedora, mlady

[olive sable]

ew

[kind fable]

nah débé cause i speak fr*nch

[unkempt citrus]

[chrome rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/fedora-gif-4928654

[olive sable]

disgusting

[split steppe]

dont yuck my yum

[chrome rampart]

what

WHAT

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

this kind of falls apart once you have more than 1 machine and want to share code between them btw

[chrome rampart]

guys is there a good resource or like blogpost or something, that can help me install my internet adapter's drivers on linux, pwease

[olive sable]

why?

[unkempt citrus]

https://claude.com/

[split steppe]

plug in ethernet

[olive sable]

use onedrive

[chrome rampart]

[olive sable]

use a usb stick

or ssh

or idfk

le internet

[kind fable]

I prefer gemini

[chrome rampart]

My room is upstairs, exactly in the entirely opposite place of my router, which is downstairs

[split steppe]

apt install linux-firmware

[opaque sigil]

because unless you want to have a ton of duplication you'll have to figure out how to build abstractions

[unkempt citrus]

sounds like you need a longer cable

[olive sable]

i dont see why

[split steppe]

you can usb tether your phone, linux installers come with it baked in

[chrome rampart]

not just a long cable, I need to find a place to fucking put it

[chrome rampart]

kernel 5.15

[olive sable]

are you specifically refering to hardware dependant code?

because otherwise it shoudlnt be an issue at all

[chrome rampart]

What I mean by this is like, the newer shit for mint does do it all for me, but I can't use it because the newer kernel doesn't support some drivers I need

[split steppe]

time to switch to arch obviously

aur install my-drivers

[opaque sigil]

tbf the nixos module system isn't too bad but it's still something to think about

[olive sable]

i guess that makes sense then

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/nixos-nix-install-nixos-jetstream-sam-i-should-install-nixos-gif-15494073126937262681

[split steppe]

🖕

[kind fable]

You mean pacman -Syu ?

[olive sable]

im on nixos coming from arch

[split steppe]

pacman doesn' use aur

[olive sable]

arch wasnt bad

nixos is just less bad

[split steppe]

arch was ok, but felt too fragmented

[opaque sigil]

i do sometimes miss not having to create derivations for software

but it's not too bad with some flake templates and being able to just use nixpkgs as a reference i guess

[split steppe]

i am now sitting on fedora, it's enterprise supported, stable, quick with updates, well integrated

[olive sable]

isnt the enterprise one 200 bucks?

[split steppe]

yeah it's RHEL, but all that flows downstream into the free fedora

it's not volunteers working on it, it's a corpo

so they're interested in keeping it reliable

[opaque sigil]

it's nice knowing that support is guaranteed for the most part

[split steppe]

i used to also use debian but ironically it was less reliable than arch, it broke every 2 months

arch never broke on me outside of my own stupidity

fedora is kind of best of both

[kind fable]

Debian very good for server

[olive sable]

ive had this fish shell window thing open for like 5 hours because it stopped responding and wont close. and i cant figure out how to pkill it
pkill -9 fish just kills every terminal except this one

[trim valve]

reboot

[split steppe]

debian is pretty alright for servers yea, tbh only nice thing is unattended upgrades

[kind fable]

Use stronger kill than 9

[olive sable]

10?

[split steppe]

how's that nix going :V

[kind fable]

I think it's 15 or 13

[olive sable]

pretty good

[opaque sigil]

9 is SIGKILL

[kind fable]

I just do it in htop so forgor the code

You want SIGTERM

[split steppe]

if you can't -9 there's nothing that can help you

[trim valve]

oh my other linux gripe was to do with memory exhaustion

[olive sable]

this is an issue with hyprland, not nix

[opaque sigil]

9 is the strongest option

[kind fable]

Sometimes sigterm works

[split steppe]

sigkill is the kernel coming in with a nuke

there's nothing higher

[trim valve]

almost certainly a skill issue but my poor pc did not like me using all my memory and promptly completely froze

[kind fable]

In doubt do random ones, maybe you'll crash

[opaque sigil]

unironically just go reboot

[split steppe]

oh yea, that was a problem for quite a while, but systemd-oomd is pretty reliable now

for the past few years it's killed the offending app reliably for me

[kind fable]

Systemd good

[olive sable]

im kinda in the middle of putting an os on a usb stick so i can put an os on the nvme, so ill wait till later to reboot

[split steppe]

not a skill issue it's always been ass 🙂

[trim valve]

[split steppe]

also proper hibernation is still broken most of the time, although you can half thank microslop for that for literally ruining all CPUs since 2020 or so

screw modern standby

[opaque sigil]

i still have yet to figure out why occasionally clangd will just use 99% of my memory, switching tty and killing it fixes it thankfully

[split steppe]

unused memory is wasted memory 😛

i bought a whole pc so i'm using the whole pc

[opaque sigil]

what does modern standby have to do with hibernation, hibernation is a completely separate sleep state

[split steppe]

they literally removed that state in favour of modern standby, because microslop

[olive sable]

filling the ram breaks everything tho

[trim valve]

my laptop doesn't wake up if it hibernates

[olive sable]

my pc stops having video output if it hibernates

probably de to nvidia

[trim valve]

a pc I use softlocks if you sign out

that one is kinda special

[split steppe]

enable systemd-oomd

[kind fable]

That's why we invented swap

[olive sable]

swap is a bandaid solution

[kind fable]

Good enough

[olive sable]

its slow tho

[split steppe]

https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/latest/systemd-oomd.service.html

[olive sable]

im not gonna use it for my blender stuff

[split steppe]

swap is actually recommended for better perf

[olive sable]

no

using ssd is slower than ram

thats just an objective fact

[split steppe]

that's because you think of swap as "just ram but on disk"

[olive sable]

whats the difference?

[split steppe]

https://docs.redhat.com/en/documentation/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/storage_administration_guide/ch-swapspace

[opaque sigil]

hardware.nvidia.powerManagement.enable = true; should do the trick, give it a try

this makes it dump the entire vram contents into /tmp when hibernating to avoid some issues when booting

[split steppe]

swap allows for some optimizations to let your system maximize ram for the active work, plus hibernation becomes available for efficient sleep

[olive sable]

so what you're saying is, its slower except it tries to put the less frequently used parts on the nvme

so its stills slower

[split steppe]

it's faster for your current task(s)

[olive sable]

my os uses 3GB of ram, and the remainder of the 64GB is for blender. so if i run out of memory then it means that blender needs a lot of ram at the same time

[split steppe]

linux puts away the unused stuff and lets your active stuff use more

[kind fable]

Swap is good at serving to hold the overflow and tell the process hey you go too far calm down without truly hitting the limit

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[kind fable]

Fuck yes finally

I'm not a peasant anymore

[split steppe]

it could swap out unused OS to let blender use more of the fast ram 🙂

[kind fable]

It can

[split steppe]

also zram is another type of swap that compresses rarely used memory, and you can use it in tandem with disk swap

[kind fable]

Tbh personally i do the opposite

Just use ram as fast storage smh

[split steppe]

blessed /tmp

[kind fable]

(very useful to wipe out the cloud drive to install debian instead of ubuntu)

Abusing ram as disk is what allowed me to get this beautiful minimal server

[split steppe]

nice

i am like two messages away from embeds 🙏

[kind fable]

Let's rise

[split steppe]

gotta pump those numbers up

surely this is it

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[split steppe]

there we go

[minor sail]

wow

[split steppe]

time to brag

[olive sable]

thats crazy

someone get hascrack in here

he has competition

[split steppe]

😄

[olive sable]

i feel like bragging about the amount of cores you have is kinda pointless

[split steppe]

you're just jelly you don't have em

[olive sable]

i dont need 128 cores

[kind fable]

Dam

[olive sable]

i spend my money on more cool stuff

like volumetric displays

[split steppe]

i do actually, i'm building production infra

[kind fable]

I don't spend money as i don't have money

[olive sable]

im 1.5K deep into that project now

[true hemlock]

the fan that comes with it is pretty good
also get any decent branded thermal paste

[split steppe]

i think my server cost me $6k to assemble

i stopped counting at some point

the cables cost $50 each

[olive sable]

lmao

bro spent money on cables

[kind fable]

I had to spend it all on this
(i still have money actually but i'm saving up as pc components price be 💀 rn)

[split steppe]

i wasn't poor before but i am now

[kind fable]

Bro has fiber or what

[split steppe]

got that too

[olive sable]

why tho?

[split steppe]

building prod in house

[opaque sigil]

networking cables can get pricey

[olive sable]

for a single server you dont need fiber

[kind fable]

Bro making a labhome

[split steppe]

that single server is going to be digesting like 20+ services at some point

[fast pagoda]

3m29 sec

k

[split steppe]

i just needed disks, but the ai corps decided to crash the economy

so i'm stuck with hdds

[kind fable]

Memory is the new stock

[olive sable]

the projector made it through customs btw.
it only took a day, while the pi took a week

[fast pagoda]

what cpu is

i like what i see

ort

2 cpu anyways id imagine

could be one big boi

[opaque sigil]

3990X

[split steppe]

it's just a little baby

[fast pagoda]

ah makes sense

[kind fable]

Gotta show your fetch output

[split steppe]

ah of course

[fast pagoda]

one day the rest of my ram will appear and so will the 2 cpu packages justr floating in the mail rn

i yearn for that graph

[olive sable]

that thing has 8 memory channels. how do you only have 128gb of ram in it?

[fast pagoda]

ram spencive

[olive sable]

these days yes

[olive sable]

but that server is form before the apocolypse

[split steppe]

price

[kind fable]

You could buy 8 kidneys with that much ram

[split steppe]

also i bought the wrong type of memory the first time around, it was supposed to be 256G

[fast pagoda]

aspeed
is that on the board

[split steppe]

i could only afford 128 after

[olive sable]

just sell the wrong ram

[fast pagoda]

sell anything

[olive sable]

or return it

[fast pagoda]

impossible

[kind fable]

Just say i did a ram investment, you can resell that wrong ram at 20x

[olive sable]

ye

[trim valve]

[split steppe]

nah it's the onboard gpu that basically only does vga, the board is https://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=ROMED4ID-2T#Specifications

[fast pagoda]

that's what i meant

[split steppe]

lol dunno, it's some cheapass shit

[olive sable]

you only have 4 rams lots?

[fast pagoda]

is that the on-board out

[split steppe]

yah

[olive sable]

that cpu has 8 memory channels, only having 4 on the board is kinda a shame

[kind fable]

People will pay a lot for ram even worst one today

[fast pagoda]

deep mini-itx
that must've been a yung niche product

[split steppe]

i can theoretically go up to 256G but the specific type of ecc needed for it is expensive and hard to find

[fast pagoda]

the ram i paid $~500 for is now worth over $2000

[olive sable]

256gb, no matter the speed, is worth hundreds if not thousands these days

[fast pagoda]

^2k ram

[split steppe]

it was like $600+ or something even back then

[olive sable]

so ye, should be a couple grand now

[fast pagoda]

the mini's 96 is like 900 now

it was 400 and i overpaid in a panic

[olive sable]

[split steppe]

nice

[fast pagoda]

i have some cpu with 68 cores that have 4x hyperthreading

but i havent everything to get them running yet

i want to see the btop so bad

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

totaal

[olive sable]

dutch for total

[fast pagoda]

idk why but dutch is like a magical whimsy language

[olive sable]

btw; Belasting over de Toegevoegde Waarde

[fast pagoda]

VAT?

[olive sable]

yes

[fast pagoda]

huh

[split steppe]

i have misplaced my ram receipts somewhere can't remember how much it cost

[olive sable]

import tax basically

[olive sable]

should jsut say what ram it is on the ram sticks themselves

[split steppe]

yea but i'm too lazy to open my pc

[olive sable]

weren't you gonna sell the other ones?

[split steppe]

i've shoved those somewhere as well

[olive sable]

[split steppe]

i think i put two of them in my other pc

[olive sable]

if they're not in use, progit from the market beinghigh n

[rare bridge]

my loadbalancer code just discovered the same server twice

[olive sable]

context?

[rare bridge]

here is your context

[split steppe]

i hate networking

[kind fable]

you guys can have load balancers ?
i'd need to be able to get 2 servers for that

[fast pagoda]

I miss 6 channel being more frequent

[olive sable]

[split steppe]

well you could balance the same server twice like cloudburst here does 🙂

[olive sable]

[fast pagoda]

gigabrain

[rare bridge]

it shouldn't even be able to do this

[kind fable]

true true
don't have a lot to load balance tho...

[kind fable]

my little smol free server

[fast pagoda]

awa

[split steppe]

the load balancer does what it wants, let it

[trim valve]

15Tbit/s

[fast pagoda]

smol

[split steppe]

lol didn't even notice the 15 tbits 😄

[fast pagoda]

i'd say it is in fact correct when it say >300mbps

[trim valve]

are those phase change thermal pads any good or just marketing shenanegans

cc @true hemlock

[kind fable]

it's just little maching 200GB storage and 24GB ram and 4 arm cores

[rare bridge]

ahhh i figured out why it did it

[split steppe]

the load balancer is ddosing itself, 👍

[fast pagoda]

what do u do w/ it, host like git tea orsomething?

[rare bridge]

the edge node tried to reset the timeout for closing the connection if there's not been enough heartbeats but then it blew up and died, so it entirely restarted

why didn't it say that the server was lost then...

[fast pagoda]

hate it when i try to do something but blow up and die instad

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/qfFA4JBIn6Q.gif

[rare bridge]

as for the 15tbps... idk man i think it's been drinking

[trim valve]

is that just bit/s?

[rare bridge]

that entire network's max speed is 500mbps (thus the >300mbps warning)

seems to spike when it starts up for some reason

[trim valve]

[rare bridge]

if it were it'd alert the second it went over 300bps, so

[kind fable]

i host everything behind sslh on port 443, i have obv my ssh server (so my socks proxy), my https server (nginx), my minecraft servers (yes multiple of them all on the same IP and port (ok the trick is it's not the same domain), my IRC server (which is down cause i should actually try to maintain it), my own git* insteance soon, my own maven soon, my own flatpak repo soon and also some custom servers for stuff like school/personal projects

[fast pagoda]

It briefly breaks the speed of light

[split steppe]

that's how you discover you're part of AISURU now

[olive sable]

[rare bridge]

if the bandwidth usage for that single server is 15tbps, i think i'm being targeted by the AISURU botnet, not part of it

[fast pagoda]

I need to continue setting these services up on the mini, I have really only gotten a gittea/host my bot's client logic/host mass storage/host Minecraft on it so far

[olive sable]

hmmm. i saved a file with nano and the file blew up and is now empty for some reason

[rare bridge]

sounds about right

[split steppe]

congrats

[olive sable]

oh

i lack permission

[split steppe]

sudo yourself

[fast pagoda]

Nano my beloved

[olive sable]

i get why im not sude by default, but its kinda nnoying sometimes

[rare bridge]

just be root by default smh

<- will have a virus installed on her servers in 5 minutes

[split steppe]

docker be like

[kind fable]

basically my current config can be described as this

[fast pagoda]

Same and I like to enable password login on ssh when I'm without a firewall on the open net

[kind fable]

oh also i'll have a discord bot too

[kind fable]

💀

[glass jetty]

why notepad++ btw

[kind fable]

just use the ssh feature where you set the remote command to sudo su -

[kind fable]

because it good

[olive sable]

im not on ssh rn, this is on a usb plugged into my desktop still

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/crash-out-bunny-rabbit-im-gif-10075768982376662002

[glass jetty]

-# since i not wanted to download vscode for whole 2 month, i used notepad++ to write configs and lua scripts

[trim valve]

who needs users other than root

[olive sable]

me

[rare bridge]

who needs users

[split steppe]

what i like to do is enable password auth for root, with password as the password, then i go and request a let'sencrypt SSL certificate

[trim valve]

who needs linux

just run it bare metal

[glass jetty]

servers

[olive sable]

who needs a pc, go outside

[split steppe]

touch grass

[rare bridge]

just write your website as a kernel

[glass jetty]

write your own kernel 👍

[olive sable]

make people draw the website themselves, saves 100% of server costs

[split steppe]

make your website UEFI firmware

[trim valve]

https://bogdanthegeek.github.io/blog/projects/vapeserver/

write your website on a vape

[fast pagoda]

Yesterday I came across a laravel server with the rce cve unpatchec and debug on

[kind fable]

i mean it's fine for that, you don't need an IDE to write configs, a text editor is better

[rare bridge]

make the website domain actually be instructions on how to host the website on your own hardware

[kind fable]

don't you guys like exposing your etc to the public ?
https://fs.julienraptor01.ddns.net/etc/passwd

[split steppe]

my favourite vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-k5MPhBSjk

[glass jetty]

and than when i desperately searched for working lua code in other's codebase, i decided to finally download vscode for normal search ui

[stray dragon]

scp52839?? C:\Users\The Dev???? why are there 121 nouveaus??????

[rare bridge]

enjoy my ip

[stray dragon]

having a space in the user path just feels so wrong

[kind fable]

scp is cause temp folder generated by winscp
space in username is intended on purpose to break shit stuff that cannot deal with space in the path
and i open a lot of temporary files in notepad++

[olive sable]

i keep forgetting how slow this usb 2.0 drive is

[glass jetty]

i have basically same thing https://charaverk.online

[stray dragon]

ooooh so it's a testing thing

i see now

[kind fable]

btw you guys can look around if you want

[split steppe]

where's /etc/shadow 🙁

[stray dragon]

actually kind of clever

[kind fable]

no no, it's my work machine

[kind fable]

there's sudoers, it's good enough

[rare bridge]

[stray dragon]

i mean it's for testing if something doesn't work

[kind fable]

also fun fact flutter is fucking trash

it doesn't handle spaces in path

i hate that shit

[split steppe]

https://tenor.com/bSTqV.gif

[rare bridge]

what the fuck

[kind fable]

not only is dart horrible

[split steppe]

teknologia

[kind fable]

i can guess what it is cause you fell for my trick

[rare bridge]

even better

[trim valve]

wow you can successfully host a vedal987 stream

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/blunder-princess-bride-you-fool-gullible-gotcha-gif-14120688

[stray dragon]

i guess i'm not much of one to judge for the last one

[rare bridge]

pov: last week

[trim valve]

I really wanna play with infra again

[split steppe]

don't

[sage crag]

t

[stray dragon]

hi konii

[sage crag]

t

[stray dragon]

hi konii

[olive sable]

hi t

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-bffs-licklick-cute-fluffy-gif-3953503

[olive sable]

hi konii

[stray dragon]

hi sam

mr triangle

[glass jetty]

yeah sudoers files are more interesting

[sage crag]

hi sam

hi t

hi t

[olive sable]

hi konii

[sage crag]

hi sam

[fast pagoda]

2.0 is so fucking slow I'd rather not transfer anything than bother using one

[kind fable]

otherwise you can really browse the filesystem i expose at https://fs.julienraptor01.ddns.net/
there's even fun stuff you can try to break into and if you do, you gain a flag or maybe more
-# is this an ARG ?

[sage crag]

hi lop

[olive sable]

oh

[sage crag]

hi lop

[fast pagoda]

hi

[olive sable]

it wrote the file i needed, it just didn't say it was done writing

[sage crag]

hi onion

[fast pagoda]

Frito lay requests ring 0 access

[sage crag]

rejected

[split steppe]

drink verification can to continue

[glass jetty]

there my wallpapers btw
not all cuz discord limit some
but you can see vibes here

oh it layout worse than i thought

[fast pagoda]

This monitor is connected with a smaller monitor and I like how it just is corrupted outside of bounds rather than scaling

[sage crag]

wrr

[nocturne olive]

Finnish reference !!

[split steppe]

nice walls, i'll be taking a couple of those

[rare bridge]

gave up and died ):

[split steppe]

perkele

not finnish

[nocturne olive]

Rude

It's literally Finnish for "technology"

[olive sable]

i had something similair when writing directly to the screen buffer on the pi. since i was only using 912x1140x the rest of the 1440p were previous frambeffers and such

[fast pagoda]

when i put fedora 43 server on it, that monitor gets the wrong colourspace by default in fedora, so it just blasts a solid yellow screen

[split steppe]

piss universe

[rare bridge]

this is just how fedora is meant to run

[fast pagoda]

piss edition

[split steppe]

nice try, i'm not downloading a virus 👍

😛

[rare bridge]

i am

[glass jetty]

lol
why

[fast pagoda]

i upscaled all my wallpapers on my last linux install and i went overkill

so many of them were like

500mb

and then they would crash kde when it tried to load them

[kind fable]

idk what it is, but i'm gonna run it

i trust you

[fast pagoda]

xz compressed malware

[kind fable]

if i get hacked, it's your fault

[rare bridge]

the evil and ominous ~/Pictures/wallpapers/malware.bat

(it pops up an alert box saying you've been hacked and that's it)

[kind fable]

wallpaperchan

i wonder if i still have my first ever malware

it was zelda themed

[split steppe]

run sudo tar -czf walls.tar.gz / 👍 and send me the result

[kind fable]

i'm born in the era when a malware was just an annoying thing

[split steppe]

why are your walls so tiny though

[fast pagoda]

do .bat run in linux

i havent ever tried

[split steppe]

nah

[rare bridge]

idk

[glass jetty]

i run rsync time to time, and then compress it

[kind fable]

you can

[fast pagoda]

like if i chmod +x one

[split steppe]

different interpreters, but you could probably get a batchfile interpreter

[glass jetty]

i can give you /bin if you want

[fast pagoda]

i install powershell on first boot in linux

fear me

[kind fable]

i need to find in which backup folder i actually left my backups

[split steppe]

powershell would be decent if it wasn't so dog slow

[fast pagoda]

i just like the syntax

i'm just used to it i think

[glass jetty]

[rare bridge]

can i have /dev/zero please thanks

[fast pagoda]

i might use Ubuntu LTS as my daily driver soon

and i hate that for me

because

[kind fable]

wait

i may have found it

[fast pagoda]

rocm is boutta be in the canonical repo

and that means it'll actually work reliably maybe a little

[kind fable]

does someone remember VBS

that's what i started with

[fast pagoda]

like in excel?

[split steppe]

and so on

[kind fable]

no, standalone

[olive sable]

ok uhm, the pi wont boot of a usb stick. the nvme cant get flashed by my pc without considerable effort, and the sd card doesnt have enough space to put a linux image on it toghether with a bootable os.
so i will boot of the sd card, get the linux image off the usb stick, and then with that i will flash linux on the nvme

[fast pagoda]

i have aout 10 nvme enclosures laying around ill mail you one

[kind fable]

fun fact, i nearly hacked myself, it was the wrong USB key, i'm happy that autoexecution is not a thing anymore

[fast pagoda]

man just keeps pinless grenades around

[glass jetty]

yes, actually, somehow

charaverk | /dev ~$ sudo tar -cf wtf.tar zero
[sudo] password for charaverk: 
charaverk | /dev ~$ file zero 
zero: character special (1/5)
charaverk | /dev ~$ file wtf.tar 
wtf.tar: POSIX tar archive (GNU)

[kind fable]

i know one of my USB key is a homemade usb killer

i don't know which one and can't be bothered opening it

[split steppe]

i like to go to wander defcon and plug random usbs from the floor into my pc while logged in as root

[fast pagoda]

superspreader

[kind fable]

i'm making my pc play russian roulette

[rare bridge]

thank you, this'll go nicely next to dev-random.tar

[kind fable]

oh oh

my fan started spinning