programming

[azure lynx]

small CPUs would have more room for cache. that seems like a good use of tech.

except cache isn't everything

otherwise they'd just keep shrinking processor and increasing cache

there are trade offs

[olive sable]

iirc RISC-V is pretty decent for low silicon usage.

[azure lynx]

it's also free

which is it's big selling point

as in no IP

[glass jetty]

btw, last 2 days had to debug obvious (now) memory broken system
ONLY pc that have issues
and it have:

1. unverified commit (core dump seems quite incomplete, 2 core dumps with different loaded .so on region with sigsegv)
   2, sigsegv without log or valid cout (systemd unit)
2. invalid instruction - invalid opcode on cuda device
   4, aborted core dump without core dump (idk what the actual fk?)
3. free() - use after free (before enabling dumps, but that like impossible in our code space, i can count all new/delete and path for all raw pointers in first/second generation)

and it is only machine that causes it, any version of software i pushed behave predicatively on all other machines

[olive sable]

if the core is simpler, than it takes more instructions for it to reach the same end-goal.
which would be fine since a simpler core can probably run pretty fast. but you need to get the instructions from the memory now 10x as much

[azure lynx]

if only RISC vs CISC was solved

microcode.

[olive sable]

hmmm

so make the cores too simple and fetching isntructions from memory becomes the new bottleneck

make them too complex and you lose a lot of space for cache and get more latency

[azure lynx]

you want to balance your design so it's always just about to hit a bottleneck for all components.

[olive sable]

true

[glass jetty]

developers have so low control over cache it is ridiculous

you may want store some instructions in cache always
you may never swap some counters without having to reserve registers and rewrite assembly
etc etc etc

[olive sable]

im pretty sure RISC-V is the current favorite in terms of cpu architecture for efficiency

[opaque sigil]

yeah cause on its own it's fucking useless

so you end up adding all these extensions and it ends in a compatibility nightmare

[azure lynx]

i think RISC-V is fine. memory bandwidth is cheap enough to make it work.

it's perfectly usable for certain tasks

[opaque sigil]

is nice when you own the entire stack though

[olive sable]

on the other hand, you only add what you need

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

[azure lynx]

if you're making a toy or a little electronic device with a simple function, they're fine. any processor is going to be fine as long as it's not stressing the limits of the design.

[glass jetty]

some tasks are still want only frequency without all of this cores stuff

[opaque sigil]

some high level control for the cpu caches would be nice i guess like you get with a gpu but it's also not nearly as necessary so i can understand why they don't

[olive sable]

PS1 had RISC-V

i made a whole paper on it

was it RISC-V? maybe it was just RISC

[glass jetty]

what is reliable max now for specialized cpus? 15GHz? idk where i heard about it

[opaque sigil]

i don't think risc-v was even a thing back then

[olive sable]

its been a while since i did that paper

[opaque sigil]

ah right the ps1 has a MIPS processor

[olive sable]

oh ye

MIPS is a subset of RISC iirc

[opaque sigil]

MIPS is nice, i like

very comfy to program

risc is a concept

not a specific instruction set

[glass jetty]

i guess it is only overclocking for regular consumer cpu

[opaque sigil]

reduced instruction set just means that you have simpler instructions that you need to combine to do complex operations

[olive sable]

exponential increase in heat generated form higher clock speeds iirc

thats why it has stagnated at 5GHz

[azure lynx]

4-5GHz is the max you'll get without specialized cooling

[olive sable]

you can get away with up to 6GHz in certain cases im pretty sure

[azure lynx]

maybe for bursts

but not continuous

[olive sable]

i think for single core loads it was 6ghz

[glass jetty]

kind of, some task want enormous clock speed, not overall performance, science tasks basically, idk where i heard about 15GHz but that should be at least around 10GHz i guess

[opaque sigil]

[glass jetty]

it isnt cpu
, it is possible to clock the circuits at frequencies of the order of 100 GHz (one pulse every 10 picoseconds).

[olive sable]

then what is it?

[glass jetty]

it is something something
i heard about single core cpu that reached 15GHz
or something about it idk

[opaque sigil]

a circuit duh

[glass jetty]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_single_flux_quantum

[olive sable]

RSFQ is very different from the CMOS transistor technology used in conventional computers

this isnt the same thing as normal cpus

[glass jetty]

nvm, forgot idk really
some one overclocked consumer cpu to 9k+, maybe possible 10k for specialized, idk what about 15k

[olive sable]

RSFQ requires temperatures below 20–25 K
so then the cooling problem would be even worse

[glass jetty]

basically super conductors tech

[opaque sigil]

you don't have liquid helium lying around?

[olive sable]

i dont think the thing your thinking of is RSFQ

no cpu uses that

[glass jetty]

i mean now it is only thing i found, and it isnt cpu

[olive sable]

fair

[olive sable]

aight

fuck it

back to armbian

[azure lynx]

you know what would be cool? having an LLM play an interactive text adventure. they'r e literally made for interacting textually.

like Zork or Adventure or Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy.

[olive sable]

like a visual novel?

[azure lynx]

but the old ones which were just text.

where you type what you want to do

[olive sable]

[dull egret]

There is an HHGG text adventure game??

[azure lynx]

> pick up the mail and put it in your pocket
You pick up the mail, briefly looking at it (just bills), before putting it in your pocket.
>

http://www.infocom-if.org/games/hhgttg/hhgttg.html

http://www.infocom-if.org/games/games.html lots of them

[olive sable]

i had 40GB in my wastebasket

[dull egret]

Gonna try to grab a copy

[azure lynx]

https://eblong.com/infocom/#hitchhiker

that should have links to interpreter and data files

it would be trivial to get Neuro to play them

and because some were written to be very detailed (but still fit on a single floppy disk), they might even be a more immersive experience than games like don't starve.

less abstract of an interface (some have surprisingly good input parsers that allow very natural long inputs)

[real sierra]

@leaden crest send that here

it's literally screeps I can't believe it

[azure lynx]

battle bots, but virtual?

[leaden crest]

it’s less of battle bots

more like swarm control?

idk how to describe it

they dont have much info but mit’s battlecode is smth to read abt to get an idea of it

[azure lynx]

already too distracted ;]

[leaden crest]

oh shoot zenith you’re the combat robot guy I forgot

[real sierra]

I will simply write an API for the game that makes the interface look like screeps

and then reuse my screeps code

to answer your question though @leaden crest https://store.steampowered.com/app/464350/Screeps_World/

Steam

Screeps: World

Screeps: World is an open source MMO RTS sandbox game. With all the attributes of a full-fledged strategy game, you control your colony by writing script that operates 24/7 in the single persistent open world filled by other players on par with you.

Your colony can harvest resources, build units, conquer territory, trade with other colonies.…

Price

$19.99

Recommendations

1887

I got the whole channel playing this a while ago

[azure lynx]

combat robots are just radio control cars that worked out. the weapons are basically power tools with remote switches.
controlling the whole robot (or multiple) is more robotics than most of the combat stuff is.

[leaden crest]

this looks fun as hell wtf

why have I never heard of this

[real sierra]

screeps claims another victim

I still need to post my code here for code review

[leaden crest]

you can do that?

[azure lynx]

sorta like "the farmer was replaced" but with combat

[leaden crest]

is it actually code review or is it just “programming channel roasts your poor coding practices”

[real sierra]

^

[azure lynx]

sometimes we find typos. and roast them.

[real sierra]

they usually just roast it because it's JavaScript though

[leaden crest]

ah both

checks out

[olive sable]

we need to make a neurocord team

[leaden crest]

we cant all use brainfuck yall 😭 😭 😭

[azure lynx]

someone should write a compiler backend that generates BF

[olive sable]

shiro?

[leaden crest]

sam I seeeee you

bro this small hackathon bouta be so confused why neurocord is invading

[real sierra]

[leaden crest]

whoopsies

[real sierra]

don't look at me

[olive sable]

i know shiro is busy being unpaid slave, but he could maybe make some time for this

[leaden crest]

I am unfortunately a high schooler so im pretty sure I cant be on yalls team

I do look forward to sam cooking me though

[olive sable]

do tyhe rules say you need to be not a highschooler?

[leaden crest]

wait…

idk

[olive sable]

im pretty sure its a free-for-all

[leaden crest]

the website specifies high school teams and other teams

wait

[azure lynx]

has anyone ever written a bot for a resource management/construction/strategy game before?

[leaden crest]

“Prizes for all finalists — UK open, international, high school, and novice brackets.”

so they’re different brackets?

unless open implies free for all

[olive sable]

i think they're different brackets?

[azure lynx]

international is going to beat UK open (statistically), beats high school, beats novice.
so probably?

[leaden crest]

aw oh well

[olive sable]

im a college student so i wouldn't be allowed in the highschool bracket anyways

[azure lynx]

putting people with complex multi-phase algorithms in their bots versus people struggling to make their bots move in a straight light wouldn't be fair or fun.

[leaden crest]

true

mit battlecode (which inspired this) separates high school and college divisions

[olive sable]

thats probably why there are brackets ye

[leaden crest]

I would assume they do the same here

[olive sable]

my mian question is jsut what exactly you need to do

[leaden crest]

they’re announcing the game on march 16

[olive sable]

[leaden crest]

they havent had any comps so far but you can see mit battlecode’s past games

it differs per year

thus you probably wont be able to use screeps as much as you would like

[olive sable]

do you need to sign up before march 16?

[leaden crest]

uhhhhh

ngl idk

not an organizer

[azure lynx]

i imagine it'll involve writing something like python or lua code to control your bots. other than that...

[leaden crest]

just stimming

[olive sable]

its python ye

[leaden crest]

language is python only

[olive sable]

no real robots, jsut digital

[azure lynx]

if you've played factorio, there is scripting you can do in that (at least late game? i've only watched it online). so that'd might be an advantage?

[leaden crest]

oh

it’s both high school and uni yeah

[azure lynx]

oh. it's only 1v1 it looks like.

[leaden crest]

up to 4

[olive sable]

Teams of 1-4 allowed

the bots themselves will be 1v1 i guess

[azure lynx]

i mean 1 team v 1 team at a time. not like "randomly seeded locations with everyone in one world"

[leaden crest]

what they’ve done at mit battlecode in the past is they’ve had a leader class and a slave class with oop

so the leader itself is heavy computation

and it can spawn slave classes

no idea if it’s the same concept here

[olive sable]

[azure lynx]

"worker" is a preferrable term.

[olive sable]

[leaden crest]

spoken like a plantation owner

how is that not filtered

[unkempt citrus]

No plantation owners are proud of it

[leaden crest]

thats fair

spoken like a factory owner

[azure lynx]

as in, MISO is no longer used for SPI coz of the loaded language.

[unkempt citrus]

side tangent, moving away from master/slave is fine, I agree with it with some extent

but controlelr/peripheral is stupi

its too long

[olive sable]

so uh, what did you mean?

No plantation owners are proud of it
No, plantation owners are proud of it

[unkempt citrus]

main secondary is mich better

and you can still say MISO MOSI which are so fun to say

and you don't have to change as much documentation

[azure lynx]

i like miso. don't change that.

[unkempt citrus]

exactly

Thats why it should be main secondary

vs CIPO PICO

or whatever it is

[azure lynx]

i always thought "device" and "controller" coz that's what i was using.

[olive sable]

master and servant

[unkempt citrus]

Theres a bunch of variations which is what makes it hard to switch over

which is also why main secondary is better

because you don't even need to change abbreviations

[olive sable]

secondary is jsut a long word

[unkempt citrus]

And Controller isn't

[olive sable]

it is

[leaden crest]

not unless you use 2ndary

[unkempt citrus]

or even just second

[olive sable]

2ndairy

[unkempt citrus]

Or we can just do masochist sadist

[azure lynx]

Martha and Steve

[leaden crest]

what is the convo about

I think I got lost in the sauce a while ago

[unkempt citrus]

master-slave contorlelr system alternative names

[leaden crest]

oh that part I knew

[olive sable]

everything expect that.
even slave is better than that

[leaden crest]

is martha and steve actually common usage 😭 😭 😭

[azure lynx]

no, but should be ;]

[leaden crest]

is it bc martha is dominating

[azure lynx]

can change it with a sharpie

[leaden crest]

how is that not censored

[olive sable]

martha and steve is kinda funny

[unkempt citrus]

Dominating is a pretty normal word

[olive sable]

is it tho?

[unkempt citrus]

like it shows up in TF2 pretty regularly (I'm really bad)

[azure lynx]

in math it is used. dominator trees.

[olive sable]

i might just be cooked

[unkempt citrus]

Also if we;re talking about medieval nations and their dominions

or pvp fighting games dominating is pretty common there

[olive sable]

is that where the word dominions comes from?

[unkempt citrus]

same root yeah

or about who is "dominating" the coversation

[azure lynx]

someone could also be playing dominos very well.

;]

[olive sable]

i learned english via the internet

so i pretty much only know the bad things about words

[azure lynx]

it's like learning a foreign language from a friend. you only learn the bad words ;]

[olive sable]

ye

the first things you learn in english is the names of the minecraft blocks, and the swearwords

[azure lynx]

often i bet in the same video

[olive sable]

yes

im not even joking, thats how it went for most people i know

minecraft youtube

[leaden crest]

for me it was pokemon

every so often I see a greek root word and I think “oh it has a pokemon root”

why have we become gen chat

[opaque sigil]

always have been

[olive sable]

#baking

#off-topic

[dull egret]

https://youtube.com/shorts/rzHYgudf_qQ?

[azure lynx]

ooooo!!! i just had cool additional idea for a "Neuro plays [some interactive fiction]" stream... the text for each location is sent to a text-to-image model and displayed for the viewers, but Evil or Neuro just get the game stream directly.

[silent island]

Dawggg why are psn prices so much more expensive than steam's???

[olive sable]

steam has beter local pricing or something i think

[silent cloak]

Because its psn

And steam is steam

[opaque sigil]

psn is how they make their money

[unkempt citrus]

PSN's cut looks to be the same as steams though

[olive sable]

i think its local pricing

idk

[silent cloak]

Piss Shit Network

[patent shard]

it's an automatic 10% increase for PSN or xbox
and then probably regional price difference? idk

[silent island]

dang...

[patent shard]

if the console was free and as powerful as my PC, I'd have no issue
but you're telling me to spend $500+ for something vastly less powerful than my pc?
if the games ran without compromises, sure, but a LOT are limited to 1440p if you want 120 fps or with significantly reduced graphics
I'd be okay with like 2160p 80-90 fps.. nope, 60 or 120..

[silent cloak]

Real

[azure lynx]

perhaps it is to do with hardware? divide by 2 for clock speeds is easier than other divisors. that's why 60 and 120 and not 80 or 90 maybe?

[patent shard]

I mean, partially
you need VRR to really have a great experience with variable refresh rate
although, I personally think v-sync feels.. fine... I'd still much rather have a variable 80-90 fps with v-sync than a steady 60

you could probably do 80 fps with 2160p versus 120 for 1440p
but... 90 is probably too much for that difference
and I guess they figure just have a steady 60 at that point...

I mean, 2160p is 2.25x the pixels of 1440p
but that doesn't mean 2.25x the processing power to drive
but how much will vary...

[olive sable]

i ogt my hand on the .dts file for the orange pi 5 ultra. and ye its missing some shit

[maiden geyser]

you need vrr to enjoy vrr

[maiden geyser]

it also randomly fixed the 80w idle problem wtf

what happened to hayleigh?

[olive sable]

killed by the mods

ban evasion supposedly

[young plover]

182 Wegawatts

[idle dune]

Actually your in the wacky watts range

[rancid ore]

can I stick an artsy ui thing in here

or is that off topic

[idle dune]

Go ahead no on is talkign reall

I'm looking at AMD Epyc MBs for a LLM server idea

[fast pagoda]

gpu set to wumbo

[fast pagoda]

go to install fedora server on nas box thing that is at my other desk

other desk is full of random bullshit cards and screws and whatnot and has no space for a keyboard because clutter

4 monitors to choose from

set one up

get wireless kb/m

sit down

the monitor is one that does the stupid ass yellow screen thing with fedora

bruh

it's so far away

im so helpless

[mighty thorn]

“the stupid ass yellow screen thing with fedora”

Are you implying

That this monitor in particular

Is allergic to specifically fedora

[fast pagoda]

yes

works perfectly normally with any other monitor over there (high quality photo this)

it's something w/ fedora and it defaulting to the wrong colour space for that monitor

once this setup runs if i go in and chance the colourspace it will work fine

idk if it happens with any other distros but ive only had it happen w/ fedora 42 and 43 on this monitor only

oh nobara 43 did it too actually which i mean

that's also fedora

probably this guy's fault even tho i pay him to sit on the desk to keep watch and risk electrostatically ruining everything over there

[true hemlock]

sorta expensive though, normal hardware should work fine

[fast pagoda]

there were some cheapy ones in the oldge gens

not as cheapy as intel gets tho it didnt seem

mostly cuz newer

[true hemlock]

xeon cheaper yeah

but also oldge

[idle dune]

It's extrmely expesnive but it could run 6x V100s at full 16x speed

[true hemlock]

but also don't really matter

[fast pagoda]

sxm backplanes are out there too so that's pretty chep

[true hemlock]

if the goal is inference it shouldn't really matter

also sxm daughterboards

don't listen to afunyun they're expensive

[idle dune]

Well tbh this entire setup is insnaely expesnive but it was mostly a what if I did get it what would i even do

[true hemlock]

how much budget?

[idle dune]

Theroy building basically

[idle dune]

Oh my acutaly bduge tis cheap s fuck I am probably going to just by a base model M4 Mac Mini

[fast pagoda]

i have champagne taste on a psyche ward canteen budget

[true hemlock]

ehhhh

[idle dune]

Same

[true hemlock]

nah don't

could probably build a simple ryzen 5 3600 build with double the ram amount tbh

[idle dune]

Exaclty, thats why I was looking at how silly it would bne to have 6x v100s and 192gb of vram.

[true hemlock]

or if you have existing machine just spend on a gpu that gives you better inference speed

[idle dune]

I was just going to buy some dudes used gaming PC and shove a P40 inside. Test and see if I even like home LLM deployment and the work required before i drop serious money on a rig for it.

Also power

Power expesnive

[fast pagoda]

the never ending hunger for pcie lanes

[idle dune]

It like there never enough

[fast pagoda]

speaking of lanes, my 2cpu board came in but it's all the way downstairs

[idle dune]

What kidna board is it

[fast pagoda]

just lga 3647 (2nd gen xeon scalable)

[idle dune]

[fast pagoda]

kinda wish i had gotten 4189 but more spency platform overall (some deals tho)

might still grab some stuff for that too

want pmem 200 optane

c621 only supports 100

[idle dune]

I wanna get a xeon scalble pc myself

But I was gonna buy a older oem workstation and just upgrade it

[fast pagoda]

2nd gen i went with cuz cheap & still has vnni

[fast pagoda]

the board i got is a workstation board

this beast is out there (not the one I got) but it's 500-700 bux usually and i got a cheaper unit

[idle dune]

Sick

[fast pagoda]

this is what i have downstairs rn

[idle dune]

What I was gonna do was just get this

Thinkstation P920

grab some upgrades

[fast pagoda]

oh hey that was one of the boards i looked at

[idle dune]

Yeah

It has a propierty psu bullshit I think

But apparrently the machine coolers better than some other workstation systems

[fast pagoda]

yes that was the main reason against the p920 board

this seller offered me one for like $150 or something dumb

[idle dune]

God damn

If it wasing for the psu that would ahve been a steal

[idle dune]

Biggest issue is for me is broke + canadian

[fast pagoda]

canadia

incurable

[idle dune]

[fast pagoda]

in canada

[idle dune]

Doubled price for me

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-pain-nub-sLkIthus9lEwoe7PRx

[fast pagoda]

visually lol

i guess idk how your purchasing power is

overall

per dollhair

[idle dune]

Pretty ass rn

[fast pagoda]

F

last tiem i was in ontario i did my best to stimulate the economy

injected a ton of poutine money into th e local restaurants

[idle dune]

Damn right

Something I was legit considering was just getting a HP Z840. Older X99 dual xeon system.

But I can get one with 128gb ddr 4 ecc for 899.99

Which is basically the price fo rht eram alone

[fast pagoda]

i miss being so close to canadia because i miss canadian yooper accents and all those beauties

[fast pagoda]

there is also x58's older brother

with 4x cpu config

[idle dune]

[fast pagoda]

westmere

that's what it was

lga 1567

[true hemlock]

pain fr

[idle dune]

Another contender was gonna be the good ol Mac Pro 5'1 andupgrade the enver loving shit out of it

[fast pagoda]

i feel like mac pro cases look nice but would be so proprietary and hard to build in

steve jobs just cackling in hell

[idle dune]

The biggest issue is honestly the PSU's they are super propeorrity and there no company making rpealcements just refurbishments.

[fast pagoda]

that thinkstation's psu while proprietary was 1400w

not too shabby

[idle dune]

A what now

[idle dune]

Yeah the P920 is super over built

Its also server rackable

[fast pagoda]

don't worry about that

[idle dune]

I looked them up they have no use for anyhting I do

[fast pagoda]

tfw impossible to dm you anything

[idle dune]

I got it set up taht I need ot add oyu as friend cause i keep getting scam dm's

[olive sable]

I recognize that image

[thick karma]

ion know what I'm doing rn lol

[silent cloak]

im milking my CPU fan for another day before it dies

i forced the thing onto max speed so the BIOS can detect a signal

it is running now but it sounds like a jackhammer

[royal hearth]

Was buying an i5 13500 a mistake? People often laugh at me for not buying a 13600K. But is the price difference between upgrading the motherboard to a Z-series board and the price of a 13600K really worth it?

[silent cloak]

depends on the use generally

i wouldnt buy an i5 personally though for most cases these days

(or many newer generation intel CPUs)

i am stuck on an i7 from 2021 currently but thats mostly because im between jobs atm and cant yet afford to replace my whole setup

[weak horizon]

How to run the second command after running the first command? After running, cannot open Google Chrome.

[azure lynx]

just open the URL in chrome.

that's all the 2nd command does

[ivory plinth]

iirc the second one only runs after the first stops
idk i forgor

[silent island]

usage scawwyy :3

[weak horizon]

Just open it and then automatically open the browser's web page

[hard delta]

did you install not one but two aaa games

[silent island]

well...
idk if wuwa counts as AAA cuz of its 120 gigs but... sure

[azure lynx]

twitch and youtube are probably my biggest use.

[obsidian mantle]

uuhhhhh

first of all i didnt notice it did ++it instead of it++ but it didnt help after i changed it

oh wait i didnt update loop's head

yeah still crashes

how do i do it

[true hemlock]

360W peltier module arrives tomorrow im boutta be making the most power hungry drink cooling station

[amber fractal]

You cool the drink and you warm up the food

[true hemlock]

would be hella cool if i mount it on my bike

[amber fractal]

I actually have a lunch box that uses them for work, warms a meal after a while (20ish min) but that is only one module I'm pretty sure.

I believe 12V 3A

[true hemlock]

the one arriving tomorrow is uh

12V 30A

i might use that threadripper tower cooler i have lying around

[amber fractal]

Eventually you gotta try cooking food

[true hemlock]

nah that's the job of my 14900HX

[amber fractal]

Where does one obtain this thing for future jank projects

[true hemlock]

the peltier?

[amber fractal]

ye

[true hemlock]

its TEC 12730

supposedly rated 253W

360W comes from rough estimate of 12V * 30A

[sick owl]

Nice optimisation merged into llama.cpp

https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/19504

Time to build if you're on an old release I'd say

[quick condor]

Got this laying around

[willow hinge]

Omg it's... it's... a thing!

[olive sable]

Peltier cooling?

Idfk

[glass jetty]

recaptcha is shit lately

it just wrong always, and long as fck

[minor sail]

recaptcha needs to come up with ai-proof captchas

cause them llms will just solve those things for you no problem

spammers must love AI

[warped narwhal]

Using an iterator after erasing a value is undefined behaviour

[glass jetty]

currently i fail 3/4 or even worse
idk, it just wrong, i mean it just wrong, even when you have to click this fading imges

[opaque sigil]

I like recaptcha cause you can just automate it and solve it via a free transcription api with a single click

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/buster-captcha-solver/ for context

[glass jetty]

where?

[glass jetty]

it is about implementation of ++a and a++ operators, for iterators ++a is always better, for primitives a++ is fine

google auth browser tab just crashed

[rare bramble]

removing items from a collection while having a iterator on it is a pretty sure way to get a use after free. Its a nice beginner exercise, but not adviceable in production. This is how google got arbitrary code execution cve couple weeks ago

use something like std::erase_if if you can

[chrome rampart]

refuse programming, embrace shitgramming

slopgramming

[nocturne olive]

I have discovered a model type where higher batch size makes it significantly worse at eval

[glass jetty]

removing is safer than adding

[true hemlock]

a lot of architecture can be like that where they overgeneralize with extreme high batch

still surprising that transformers are the most tolerant in that case

[nocturne olive]

Well in this case extreme is the difference from 8 to 16

[true hemlock]

damn

[nocturne olive]

And 64 basically doesn't even work

[true hemlock]

what kind of model is that

[nocturne olive]

A labeler model

[true hemlock]

you sure its not implementation issue instead

[nocturne olive]

How would I know that

[true hemlock]

right, you won't be the type to be the one who wrote the backend

[nocturne olive]

Yeah it's a thing Wispers found where I went in and fixed it using way too much memory

[obsidian mantle]

the thing is, i actually need to do something else besides just erasing it.
i figured it out and it seems to work
iterator should have been updated like this:

it = p_inventory->erase(it);

[olive sable]

with recaptcha

since ai are trained on them iirc

wouldn't ai naturally be better at captchas than we humans are?

[rigid snow]

that doesn't make any sense

sorry

[opaque sigil]

there's no reason to train on captchas, but they do make for convenient labelled training data for other models

[olive sable]

i thought that was their secondary purpose

are they not used to train ai?

[opaque sigil]

you're first given a test to make sure you're human, and everything you provide after that is used as training data

not used for a model to solve captchas

[olive sable]

so the test itself is not training data?
i though they made image recognition shit with captcha

[opaque sigil]

not the entire test no, they'd end up with way too much garbage

[olive sable]

Invented by Luis von Ahn (co-founder of Duolingo), poorly scanned words were shown to humans as a CAPTCHA and by identifying them, we taught the AIs. 
We no longer need to train AIs this way – they’re more than able to cope. 

so they used to train on captcha, but dont anymore

[opaque sigil]

tbf most captchas these days work differently anyway by testing everything you do before the actual captcha

makes sense that they wouldn't need to use it for training data anymore, shit's annoying and guess not worth it

[azure lynx]

"[_] Help us train AIs to break captchas by clicking the checkbox "

only reason they don't still do it is because they have all the data

[sick owl]

wuh

[nocturne olive]

Fake 1B

[chrome rampart]

1 buh

[unkempt citrus]

Can you hack me and make me happy?

[tender river]

hacker with knowledge about hacking who can hack

should've paid attention on english lessons if they wanted to convincingly scam people

[unkempt citrus]

It's kinda a known tactic to start quite unconvincing so the people who do bite are less likely to pull out later

Because that way they waste less precious time chasing bad targets

[silent cloak]

what the hack

[maiden geyser]

no biohacking mentioned, thoughever

[minor sail]

crispr happiness

[silent cloak]

eat the bugs and live in the pod duh

[young oyster]

Own nothing, have no privacy.

[silent cloak]

the current state of things be like:

[young oyster]

In case you missed the reference:

https://medium.com/world-economic-forum/welcome-to-2030-i-own-nothing-have-no-privacy-and-life-has-never-been-better-ee2eed62f710

That became the origin of the "you will own nothing and you will be happy" meme.

[silent cloak]

ive seen plenty since, given the world is going full 1984

[young oyster]

Idk, I feel the world is going more "brave new world" than 1984

[sick owl]

A very funny thing I've come to notice about my PC of late

My AIO cools my GPU more than it does my CPU

My CPU can run at 80% load and the coolant only hits 36 degrees, but if my GPU is playing something with path tracing while the CPUs at 40-50% we're up to 45 degrees and the fans are blasting

[silent cloak]

i feel like that wont last long tho

[young oyster]

I ain't too worried, its ultimately out of my hands and its in God's hands now. Im tired of worrying about the future.

[silent cloak]

im still gonna try to do my part against the way things are going

[young oyster]

Im nearly 40...been getting worked up over the way things are for decades now...it ain't done shit but make me angry and cloud my judgement. Best thing it did was bring me to God...cus yeah...like I said...its in His hands now. Things are past the point of anyone stopping anything. Save yourself, save your loved ones, save you soul.

Thats where im at anyways.

[fickle rain]

Something something thermal flux

GPU die has a lot more surface area so it benefits more

[azure lynx]

take your Soma and be happy, citizen. at least you're not an Epsilon.

[true hemlock]

is it a full loop where it cools both the CPU and GPU?

[sick owl]

No the 4090 just heats up my case that much at 400W

[young oyster]

I can relate to John the savage...my dad was addicted to soma and it took his life (well HE took his life, the soma were a proximal cause)

[sick owl]

If you imagine that all three of my fans are blow the AIO and coolant tubes

[true hemlock]

im assuming airflow related that affected the radiator temperature

[sick owl]

And then the radiator is extracting from the top and comprises the bulk of extraction power

[sick owl]

Yeah its just all the hot air from the GPU being extracted as well and heating the coolant tubes and radiator on the way out

[true hemlock]

side mounted aio superiority

[sick owl]

Its not a big deal since this AIO is rated for up to 55 degree coolant in continuous operation (not that I'd ever let it get that hot)

Right now 45 is my max thermal target since that seems to be the highest it gets under intense workloads

[true hemlock]

55 degree isn't much, but it also probably sensible limit

[sick owl]

85% on case and AIO fans at that point, ramping up to 100 at 50

Both share the same fan size, pinned to the same coolant temp sensor

[true hemlock]

you know what

[sick owl]

6 intake case fans, one extraction case fan and three radiator extraction fans

[true hemlock]

i might share similar fan curves

because i particularly don't really care about noise

not that it matters there's certain someone else in my room that's been ramping up her workstation rig fans like crazy my room actually hits 90+ dB

[azure lynx]

i tuned mine so my fans don't instantly go to 100%, and they hold off until i'm actually using my 3090 enough to make it significantly warmer

[true hemlock]

[sick owl]

I do care about noise but I care about hardware longevity more so I don't really want to chance a more relaxed curve

[azure lynx]

coz otherwise it just turns on all the time

[true hemlock]

noctua fans are shit it maxed at 1800rpm so we changed it to the industrial delta fan that can hit 6000 rpm

worth it

[sick owl]

GPUs running with a temp target of 88 degrees max

That way the fans ramp up for the CPU long before the GPU ever throttles (max GPU temp in path traced cyberpunk today was 74 degrees)

[true hemlock]

i wonder how well that threadripper cooler could cool a 360W peltier module

its smaller than my other massive heatsink

damn

140mm vs 120mm

[minor sail]

cat

[true hemlock]

and the small one can already cool 480W fine

ignore the cat its just random stray somehow making its way to my room and demanded some belly rub

[fast pagoda]

i can tell you raised him

[true hemlock]

[fast pagoda]

anyone heard of the brand "darkFlash" when it comes to PSU lmao

seems sus

[true hemlock]

link

[fast pagoda]

but scamazon has a 1200w one for $107 before tax for me rn

[true hemlock]

might wanna investigate

[fast pagoda]

one sec ill get a link

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0F87MQ7VY

i mean it's only gold efficiency

[nocturne olive]

I hope you have hearing protection, or you'll actually significantly degrade your hearing quite quickly

[true hemlock]

dawg

tell that to elvyn

to ramp down her fans

[fast pagoda]

quack does not have ears it's ok

[nocturne olive]

I do not suggest being in a 90dB room without hearing protection

[fast pagoda]

my car used to be north of 100 db pretty frequently and i can hear great, did you know there's a very high pitched noise omnipresent all throguhout the world but most cant hear it? i hear it constantly!

[true hemlock]

seems to claim for dc-dc
claimed protections: OCP, OVP, OPP, OTP, SCP, UVP, NLP
APFC is claimed

oh, darkflash is listed

[fast pagoda]

im an idiot when it comes to psu, i know how they work in principle and such but ive just not been exposed to or cared enough about it to research it enough to know when im looking at legit claims or just scams, i get around that by just buying platinum/titanium rated ones for a billion dollars because they pretty universally kinda have to be decentish just to be that efficient in the first place

[true hemlock]

cool, LLC conversion

[true hemlock]

this one is to be trusted

[fast pagoda]

pog

[unkempt citrus]

Fun fact, for some people their tinnitus is audible to other people

[fast pagoda]

it seems like 107 is a p decent price for that

[true hemlock]

for darkflash, get only the PMT models

[fast pagoda]

gotcha

i like how every manu seems to be like that

lines of dogshit and then lines of good shit

[unkempt citrus]

For PSU, its just power electronics right, inverter to get DC + transformers/converters to get the desired voltage and current

THe important thing is the quality of the components

which is real hard to tell

So you kinda have to go by brand rep

[fast pagoda]

it's really just about the quality of the caps and if they build it robust enough to handle what they say it does without wearing too much because the science is simple enough

caps

and everything else

[unkempt citrus]

Capacitors, mosfets etc yeah

[fast pagoda]

it's kinda like audio amps

at a base level

it's simple

but you can make em skookum or not

[unkempt citrus]

Tolerances and QC

[true hemlock]

there's UPT 1250W that is slightly inferior but i'd get PMT1250 over it.

avoid GS bronze unless for super cheap office/low end build

AVOID WA models, e waste with cut corners that uses GR for regulating voltage which is extremely unsafe

for darkflash brand

[fast pagoda]

yeah i dont th ink youll ever catch me buying anything below 80plus gold

easy filter

to at least remove the doggest of the shit

ok quack compare it to my main psu rn: https://www.amazon.com/FSP-Workstation-Computers-HPT2-1350M-GEN5/dp/B0CWJTBL9V/

[true hemlock]

there's a tier list out there that perfectly documented every single PSU details.
avoid the one that uses DF + GR. avoid those with insanely high ripples at >50mV, avoid those with >5% transient response. avoid those units with lack of OVP, OCP, OPP, SCP on all the rails

[fast pagoda]

i almost went 80plus titanium but ended up with this platinum boi

becuase titanium is like

2x again on the price

[true hemlock]

yours is miles ahead better

[fast pagoda]

compare that to the one i ALMOST wasted money on overkill getting https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FXND7N9B/

[unkempt citrus]

Who the fuck would buy a half bridge

[true hemlock]

hehehe my evga T2 1600W titanium for $180

new

[fast pagoda]

RIP evga

[unkempt citrus]

Are there even half bridge PSUs for sale?

[fast pagoda]

diablotek

never gets old

[true hemlock]

evga make banger PSU
but for evga, AVOID "N1", "W series" and "B series" (except for B5)

[fast pagoda]

is corsair still decent on the higher end ( have heard that their low lines like CX and such have gone downhill and there's a different oem or something now) for like HX/AX or even RM

i have an RM850x in the box pc rn

[true hemlock]

CX are shit

[fast pagoda]

that one is pretty self evidet just looking at em

lolol

[true hemlock]

unless if your build is like really low end with old parts

[fast pagoda]

i mean

not even modular at all

is wild

[true hemlock]

for CX avoid ALL the green label PSU

[fast pagoda]

not that it technically should affect the power itself

but that's just cost cutting when they couldnt cut the components more

[true hemlock]

though HX and RM series are all good lol

[fast pagoda]

yeah hx was my first PSU

way back in the day

or whatever the equivalent was

the one below AX at the time

[true hemlock]

there's 2 version of CX lol

there's CX-m that are modular

[fast pagoda]

SF seem interesting

they're smol

but they have good efficiency (gold or plat)

[true hemlock]

also AX are great

SF are also great

[fast pagoda]

phew

[true hemlock]

avoid CV

[fast pagoda]

kinda glad corsair hasnt gotten even more enshittified really

[true hemlock]

its just the low end CM models that's all

avoid them and you're good

[fast pagoda]

i dont think the lowest end of theirs were ever really revered even back in the day

the ones with green labels were always dog

[true hemlock]

there's also TX

just decent

not that good

[fast pagoda]

are those yellow?

[true hemlock]

also avoid VS

[fast pagoda]

i just like how the oems for these all sell their own psu and normiez think they're dogshit because "it's a chinese brand"

no it's a chinese oem, of all the psu you think are awesome

or taiwanese

FSP is taiwan i think

great wall i think is who makes a lot of corsair model

or they used to

mm thjey make the CX and TX ttho but also SF so theyre all over the place it seems

CWT is another

delta

although most of my stuff on this is like 10-15 year old knowledge from overclock.net

so it's a little rusty

[true hemlock]

actually might make a list for corsair

Corsair PSU:
AVOID:

• CV
• some CX & CX-M models: (ALL green label, CX 2023 black label,
• VS

Only for low end/old build:

• most CX & CX-M models that is NOT in the AVOID list
• Vengeance

Mid range builds:

• TX & TX-M
• RM & RM-e
• CX-F RGB

best of the best:

• AX & AX-i
• HX & HX-i
• RM-x & RM-i
• SF & SF-L (for SFF)

somehow CX-F is the only good CX model

[fast pagoda]

doesnt F mean it's the cadillac CX

like all modular and with lightingslop

[true hemlock]

actually CX 2016 gray label is also good

for budget

and quality

[fast pagoda]

i just love how modular individually braided psu cables really make it so you cant even notice the wiring it's so clean

i cant even see them

simple UI frontend for a cli application

svelte used

206 dependencies and 14 vulns

k

[true hemlock]

amd stock cooler

[fast pagoda]

it's a 5500

it cannot generate heat

it's a placeholder

[true hemlock]

fair

[fast pagoda]

it has none cache

ruena our

turns out*

[true hemlock]

imc is top tier though

[fast pagoda]

for the like $65 i paid for the 5500

i think it was worth

as a "new" cpu and stopgap

certainly aint paying $200+ for a 5600x

although ive found them around 120-150 pretty easily they probably go cheaper

but this being still like half that

[rancid ore]

would a 3060 with 12 gb of ram be okay for training ai?

[true hemlock]

yes but for how much?

the cost

[nocturne olive]

It's one of the more cheap entry level options
Will usually get you by for basic tasks but advanced tasks will require much more memory
NeuroSynth absolutely requires 24GB to be trained for quality
You should consult how much value you can get out of it based on your used market pricing
If you're willing to spend, 3090 is always a pretty safe bet (if you get it for a reasonable price)
It all depends on your budget and local pricing

[true hemlock]

no

bruh

everyone has a set budget

[nocturne olive]

Yeah I said it depends on budget and pricing

[true hemlock]

unlike you who spend the money your parent gave you

and it depends on scale either

[unkempt citrus]

It also depends on your goals as well

[true hemlock]

idk what kind of model will they train

[nocturne olive]

True, very true

I need the 3090 for NeuroSynth scaling but not every model needs gigantic mem

[true hemlock]

though 3090 is like 3x faster than 3060

[rancid ore]

I already have a 3060, and it's going to be a while before I can get anything else

[unkempt citrus]

If you already have a 3060 I don't think its worth upgrading for just the RAM

You can get a feel with training smaller models first

if you enjoy it and think you'll stick to it

then upgrade to something a decent bit better

Or if you mean you already have a 12GB 3060 in which case yeah you'll be fine

[rancid ore]

I'd like to run some pathfinding, physics, and decision making.

[unkempt citrus]

Oh yeah that will be more than sufficient

[rancid ore]

don't really know what I'd need for that

Sweet!

[nocturne olive]

Ah I see

It'll do for small scale things

And less complex models on smaller datasets

[unkempt citrus]

Phsyics is the only one that might be a bottle neck but it depends on the complexity

Fluid sims for example are probably a crapshoot

[nocturne olive]

Don't expect high complexity models being good quality off of a 3060 though

[unkempt citrus]

but simpler stuff will be fine

BUt you don't really do fluid sims on consumer grade tech naywya

[rancid ore]

yeah, fluid is a no. I want to simulate a robot cat, and need to have it run physics so it can jump on things

what sort of ai would be good for that?

[nocturne olive]

Hem

[unkempt citrus]

Thats a very hard problem

[rancid ore]

oh dear

[nocturne olive]

I don't know if modern openly available architectures really fit the task

[unkempt citrus]

But yeah there are a few I can think of

[rancid ore]

oh dear

[unkempt citrus]

genetic AI is the main one

but you'll need to be very good with defining what success is

Otherwise everything else will probably need way way too much data

[nocturne olive]

It's time for what we call "ML roulette" (I made that up): pick a random architecture and try to train it for the task, if it fails pick another one and try again, if it keeps failing start just throwing stuff at a wall and see what sticks

[unkempt citrus]

It will be a very slow process though

[rancid ore]

maybe move to as many points as it can reach?

[unkempt citrus]

Otherwise you could do more manual curation and use a bunch of smaller systems that controlled by a single larger sstem

[rancid ore]

I can't think of a way to monkey's paw that

[unkempt citrus]

The bigger difficulty I think is creating the environment for it to play in

[rancid ore]

CAT TREE

[unkempt citrus]

Unless you have an idea of something already exisitng, thats probably the biggest bottle neck

I mean program

not actual environment

[rancid ore]

oh.

[unkempt citrus]

Like what are the levers the AI can pull to move the cat

How are the environments being created

what is its target goal

how is it being scored

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GONsxU4pzwY

Because it sounds like you want this with a cat

But you need to create the environment its being used in first

[rancid ore]

I do not, in fact, want that

[unkempt citrus]

Well not exactly that, but giving an AI a bunch of buttons to push to move an avatar in a virtual environment

[rancid ore]

basically the movement would start as a point a to b thing
then there's some physics to get basic tradjectory
then it runs through a thing that goes "how do I make that happen with this body"
how do I make that?
no clue
but the robot would also be able to control its limbs if it doesn't need to do something precise

[unkempt citrus]

Yeah thats the sort of thing you would throw a genetic algorithm first

thats actually the easy part

The harder part is creating that program for the AI to use

[rancid ore]

I'd also like to train the robot off of cat mocap data, which does not exist

[unkempt citrus]

Code bullet has a few videos on this sort of thing where he throws genetic algorithms at various games

[still parcel]

Code bullet my beloved

Main reason to go to PHP conference is the elephant plush

[fast pagoda]

swag

[fickle rain]

Speaking of swag, Disobey still hasn’t sent me mine

I mean at least I got a free ticket, but I was promised swag too

[still parcel]

I've got 3 now from over the years. I'm after that rust 🦀

[fast pagoda]

tfw you find a phishing scam site which is one thing

and then you discover it's running laravel pre rce cve from like 5 years ago

and exposing debug

[fickle rain]

Hmmmm

[still parcel]

[fast pagoda]

.env file gives a 403 instead of 404 aka it's on server

alongside the rce sitting next to that

most secure "webstore"

can_execute_commands: true

[still parcel]

Could be worse imagine working with a framework like zend 2 that eol was in 2016

[fast pagoda]

it's fine they dont build em like they used to

it was made of STEEL not PLASTIC!!!

[still parcel]

I love monoliths

[jagged turtle]

wtf did I just read lmao

[azure lynx]

' That actually sounds really cool! '
'I'm definitely intrigued. '
'Interactive fiction is a really specific thing, and I don't think I've ever really done anything like that before, but the idea of seeing a game as it was originally intended is really appealing. '
'It's like, a little time capsule, you know? '
^- part of my agent's response to me asking it if it wanted to play interactive fiction games.
Now i have a motivation to get their memory working: memorizing the room layout in Zork and HHGTTG or solving whodunnits and other puzzles.

[fast pagoda]

i love lazygit man

i always forget how much crap there is to do in git till i use it

[azure lynx]

i just did git init in my project dir and let the vscode gui take care of things.

[young plover]

so many menu option when you only need git rebase -i :dentge:

[fast pagoda]

im out here git filtering like a complete maniac

barely aware of what's happening

[jagged turtle]

[fast pagoda]

rewriting history back to 1938

and then i get mad "WHAT DO YOU MEAN DETATCHED HEAD?"

[azure lynx]

there were beheadings in 1938?!

[fast pagoda]

i have chosen a bad time period to reference

[azure lynx]

today i acquired the motivation to implement RAG.
tomorrow i just have to not get distracted by hair.

[fast pagoda]

im so pissed at rag rn because i was using mongodb for mucho

and

some sort of horrible mongodb crashloop on linux 6.19

has been haunting me

i can revert to a 7.x branch of mongo but then i get update nagged and i dont wanna exclude it because then ill be on 7 forever

[azure lynx]

i'm currently thinking "if my database is too big for sqlite-vec, that's a good problem to have and I won't mind changing to something else"

[fast pagoda]

well i dont recommend mongo at this moment

unless you like crashloops

and then containerizing it and then it's still craashing because for once it's not your fault it's looping but now you're cooked

finally

the widget i've been waiting for

iss piss tank meter

[azure lynx]

when it gets full don't they just flush it into space?

[fast pagoda]

no they dump it on the xenomorph like a team that just won the superbowl pouring gatorade on the coach

[unkempt citrus]

I thought they would recycle it

Reduce waste

[fast pagoda]

that is the purest form of recycling

xenobrating

tfw this is still going

wtf git

i have a folder with 86 gb of random linux isos, that's useful to have on my root drive, good idea moron

[kind nimbus]

I just put all my ISOs onto a 128gb flash drive with ventoy installed ready to boot

[fast pagoda]

i did too but i plugged my ventoy in and it was totally empty

and then i found 2 separate copies of the isos on 2 different drives, root and my other nvme

vllm isnt messing around with building it

[silent island]

Yoo cant believe my old 2018 Air still turns on lmaooo
Is ts still supported?

[fast pagoda]

probably works fine they might not update the os anymore at some point tho, idk when that usually is for apple

put linux on it :^)

[kind nimbus]

It supports macos 13 Ventura

[fast pagoda]

what is the current mac os

[kind nimbus]

26 Tahoe

[fast pagoda]

kekw

they were still all intel at that point, 2018, right?

[kind nimbus]

After Ventura came Sonoma then Sequoia and then Tahoe

Yea 2020 was m1

[fast pagoda]

oh so it's ez slap linux on it and you wont have the suffering of trying to get m* chips working with new kernels

idk what the support is for old airs but id imagine it's probably meh

in a "unremarkable" way

but idk

[kind nimbus]

Should work
Some hardware might not work
You would need to check that

[fast pagoda]

what did airs even have at that time, they didnt have that touchscreen bar thing yet, i dont know about fingerprint readers or anything but they were pretty barebones i thought

one of the laptops of all time

[silent island]

Pain...

[fast pagoda]

looks like they used a micro sd card for the system drive

[kind nimbus]

https://support.apple.com/en-us/111933

[silent island]

yup

[fast pagoda]

like one might use for a commodore amiga hd replacement

[kind nimbus]

It's actually pcie SSD. So should be nvme i guess.

[fast pagoda]

yeah im just shitposting rn

decent connectivity for what it is tbh

tb3

3.1 gen 2

2x of the tb

still using lpddr3 in 2018 seems late to be using that

guess it was a consequence of the CPU ofc

[silent island]

yooooo is dis fr?

[fast pagoda]

damn i see theyre still scamming people with refurb macs who dont know any better

bruh

[kind nimbus]

Looks like a bad deal

[fast pagoda]

it's a horrible deal

meanwhile half the reviewers think it's a good deal because it looks apple-y in coffee shops

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-farnsworth-futurama-i-dont-wanna-live-on-this-planet-rage-quit-gif-4970134

[silent island]

all intel macs are terrible tbh

[midnight sigil]

https://youtu.be/6B3uijFzaHw

[fast pagoda]

they are all ancient at this point

[midnight sigil]

looks like they really got nothing to do with Portal 2 huh

[fast pagoda]

looks liek neo noire slow burn vvvvvv

[silent island]

$1000 bucks for a laptop that struggles with imovie lmaooo

[fast pagoda]

apple value

[maiden geyser]

not even 5 years since discontinuation💔

[fast pagoda]

they dont have to be good if the buyer just wants it to look expensive at starbucks and will forgive it being unable to perform daily tasks properly in order to have the aesthetic

[silent island]

and for sum reason, students love them...

[kind nimbus]

I love my Tuxedo

[fast pagoda]

to be fair on that one, they have pretty good battery life if you're the type who is unable to plug their laptop in

[silent island]

and this butterfly keyboard feels...

[fast pagoda]

but it's not liek you can't get that from something like a tuxedo like magic said

as long as you dont get a gaeming laptop with a 5090 burning 900 watts in it

[kind nimbus]

Yeah my tuxedo is also made out of aluminum

[silent island]

30W brick suck like ass

[kind nimbus]

5070ti 330w
275hx 24 cores up to 5.4 GHz and 96 gb ram 😅

[fast pagoda]

i would like a framework laptop

i think

if i needed to buy one for my main pc

[fast pagoda]

welp that might use a lil power

[kind nimbus]

Yup it needs that 330w power brick

The 5080/5090 variant has a 420w power brick

[fast pagoda]

you know what's sad is that my old lenovo with a 1660ti and a 10750H uses a 330w brick

i think the one i have is a little higher rated than the one that came with it which was like 270 or something though

but man is that thing inefficient

[kind nimbus]

Dafuq

[silent island]

why?

[fast pagoda]

it just burns power like crazy for the mediocre spec

[kind nimbus]

Must be super inefficient

[fast pagoda]

it puts out a lotta heat i know that much

and goodness knows, if there's one thing i care about, it's power efficiency

as in how quickly can i burn the most power

[sage crag]

cat

[fast pagoda]

idiot for scale

[sage crag]

idiot for sale

i will buy

[fast pagoda]

NO

[sage crag]

plea

i will buy

[fast pagoda]

no i know you will make him wear bunny clothe

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/crash-out-bunny-rabbit-im-gif-10075768982376662002

give idiot to me

give

[fast pagoda]

and make him use nixos

he hates immutable distros you dont wan him

[sage crag]

bad kitty

hate nixos

[fast pagoda]

now you see why he idiot

[sage crag]

yrr

need

need me to educate about nixos

[fast pagoda]

hold the idiot close and whisper the wrrrrrrrrrrs of truth

[sage crag]

wrr

[fast pagoda]

i asked him to fix my broken ubuntu server install (forgor to wipe the previous boot partition and it really was not too thrilled with that) earlier

and he just stacked miscellaneous clutter on the desk to make me look bad

and stared at iti

[kind nimbus]

Everyone should use NixOS

[fast pagoda]

it's my rm -rf opt/bin/* and i need it now
dont need no stinkin atomic config to stop me from ruining my own life

opt/bin would be useless to nuke

i am gonna delet /nix/store now though, watch out

i thik i'd be very annoyed if someone deleted my entire clutter folder in opt though

that's my random bullshit man

i needed that

?

if i choose the correct x86 build, it will work perfectly, but if i choose the wrong one, what happens

do i die

[kind nimbus]

Nix Store is read only

[silent island]

tf u mean new device?? its an old Air dawggg

[fast pagoda]

yea that's why u should be scar

[sage crag]

nothing is read-only if you try your best

[fast pagoda]

imma go around wiping only certain things from /nix/store but never all of it

[sage crag]

statistically unlikely to break anything unless you dont update often, or you garbage collect often

[fast pagoda]

the goal is less to break and more to make the dear user question their own reality

[kind nimbus]

I have zfs auto snapshots of my nix store and everything is tracked on GitHub anyway

[fast pagoda]

you're damn right it's tracked

[kind nimbus]

sudo nixos-rebuild switch --flake .

[fast pagoda]

right into copooplet

[sage crag]

pancakes, honey, raspberries, and cream but instead of pancakes its tortillas

[fast pagoda]

still crepe-like enough to be good

[sage crag]

[fast pagoda]

p sure they have like

sweet tortilla based desserts

[sage crag]

[fast pagoda]

round south down here

[sage crag]

[fast pagoda]

today's busy moms consider them equivalent

i love recipe comments lmao

"we didn't have <80% of the recipe> on hand so instead of going to the store we substituted cottage cheese for the cool whip & dirt for the cinnamon, it wasnt very good"

[jagged turtle]

wow who would have thought

[silent island]

Btw

Is my wishlist justified for a switch 2 yet?

[pure gyro]

Valid

[silent island]

Lets just hope the console doesnt have any more price increases while im saving up 😭

[fast pagoda]

[pure gyro]

Welp, I hope so too, but the RAM shortage will probably hit it at some point as well.

[fast pagoda]

the ram shortage is gonna hit everything that is an electronic device larger than like some garbage children's toy using a zilog z80

abd storage shortage as well dont forget that

[silent island]

Ye, 8gb laptops are 600 bucks now in my country

[fast pagoda]

unreal

imma pass on my ddr5 in my will

and also not , i went to see and my ram has finally gone DOWN instead of up more in value since last time

the not pog part is that i see 32gb of 6000 mt/s ram for $520 and subconsciously go "what a deal!"

when it's certainly not a goddamm deal

oh....

it didnt really go down

i was thinking it was $520/64gb

lmao that means the $600 i paid for 128gb, that ram is now $2080 and felt scammed paying that 600 since the 2nd set had gone up $100 since the first pair of modules i got,

and then i paid like $400 for 96gb of 5600 mhz sodimms for my mini

looks like the same capacity is now at least $900

w0w