programming

[trim valve]

(incredible read btw)

[olive sable]

Back on topic.
how dificult would it be to fix the orange pi 5 ultra hdmirx drivers?

[sage crag]

h

[unkempt citrus]

just vibe code it

[olive sable]

that is only possibel if im even allowed to edit them

[unkempt citrus]

If its good enough for AWS its good enough for you

[rough bloom]

try

[rough bloom]

you are

it Linux kernel

GPL

[olive sable]

The HDMI RX (input) driver for the Orange Pi 5 Ultra (based on Rockchip RK3588) is
generally not fully open source or mature, relying on proprietary Linux BSP (Board Support Package) drivers provided by Rockchip

[opaque sigil]

a little trick that big C doesn't want you to know, make your own length based string and convert on the fly as needed

[runic pulsar]

I heard templeOS ships built-in drivers.

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[runic pulsar]

I have embed perms!?

[trim valve]

that sounds like allocating memory and I am allergic

[olive sable]

you mean templeOS?

[vital sandal]

i am making own game engine

[olive sable]

thats crazy

welcome to the club

could interest you in vulkan?

[runic pulsar]

Yes thank you. my bad

[runic pulsar]

Rust?

[rough bloom]

you mean like Linux, the kernel we're already talking about?

[olive sable]

templeOS is staying far away from my orange pi 5 ultra

[vital sandal]

i am making it on Crabiscript + C#

[opaque sigil]

yeah ideally you would not need to do this very often but i guess it depends on how much you rely on other code

[rough bloom]

this seems slightly not true
except the part where the drivers are shit, that part is correct

[olive sable]

idk

i asked google

its crazy you cant trust google anymore

[opaque sigil]

stack memory is basically free though right

[unkempt citrus]

they won't be my friend

[rough bloom]

https://github.com/orangepi-xunlong/linux-orangepi/tree/orange-pi-5.10-rk3588/drivers/media/platform/rockchip/hdmirx
hdmirx driver

(non-upstream Orange Pi vendor edition)

[olive sable]

Time to vibecode these horrible drivers

[rough bloom]

Sam Linux kernel dev arc

[unkempt citrus]

What the fuck

[cursive matrix]

Sorry

[opaque sigil]

hardest part of kernel dev is unironically getting an environment for it set up

[olive sable]

I need to make the edid changeable, and i need the hdmirx to lock less badly.
Cuz stuff that is in the edid just fails to stay locked sometimes

[opaque sigil]

wdym changeable

can you not just edit it

[olive sable]

I can just test on the real hardware

[opaque sigil]

and tell it to load the new file

[olive sable]

For hdmirx input i couldnt find it

[rough bloom]

you should be able to change it

[opaque sigil]

i thought you extracted it

through some cli tool

[rough bloom]

there's a v4l2 operation hooked up for it

[olive sable]

I extrected a working edid of the resolution and stuff i wanted

I just need to put that into the hdmirx thingy

[olive sable]

I dont think that one worked when i tried it

[cursive matrix]

It looks like a bonked 🔨

[olive sable]

we get technobable every week or so, we didnt mind too much

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

no embed on mobile

[trim valve]

oh that reminds me, I have to fix sunshine on wayland at some point in the future

[cursive matrix]

I'm only kind of smart I don't even know what that means

[opaque sigil]

it's the output of v4l2-ctl --help-edid

[trim valve]

[opaque sigil]

--set-edid pad=<pad>[,type=<type>|file=<file>][,format=<fmt>][modifiers]

[trim valve]

it is somehow a case of software being worse on linux than on windows, which sucks

like it:

• can't connect from the login screen, for several reasons
  • most notably, its started as a user service instead of a system one for permissions reasons
• can't wake the monitors
• doesn't provide the nice automatic monitor config that windows offers
• (this is a skill issue probably) the video encoding sucks for some reason

[olive sable]

did my wifi break?

[cursive matrix]

So no copy and paste ?

[opaque sigil]

it's too long for that

[olive sable]

i can send messages on my desktop but i cant see new ones

[trim valve]

admittedly the monitors issue seems to be a general wayland one

the options are so cursed

its like:

• wiggle the mouse via the terminal
• turn on the monitors manually (and break kde power management)
• a bunch of stuff that only applies to x

[olive sable]

lemme do the ssh thing

[opaque sigil]

sleep/wake on linux in general is super cursed from my experience

[olive sable]

ye, i had to pkill discord to start receiving new messages again

[cursive matrix]

I can't post attachments on here though

[opaque sigil]

but yeah, i don't see why you wouldn't be able to use --get-edid to get the edid file, then modify that and pass it via --set-edid

[cursive matrix]

That's the only reason I copy and pasted

[olive sable]

ye that is pretty much what i get aswell

tbh i dont rememebr why set edid didnt work before

cuz i know i tried it

[opaque sigil]

[cursive matrix]

If I can just send it to someone who can make it a document to post on here so that way it can be added with the plus sign that's cool too right?

[olive sable]

what are you even tryinf to do tho?

[cursive matrix]

Share my work

I identify it as plate armor for an AI

[olive sable]

i dont mind posting an attachment for you if its harmless, but if its some AGI sentience bullshit again i dont really want any part in it

[cursive matrix]

I'm not trying to produce sentience. It just give me the filter system so that way it can judge coming good

[cursive matrix]

So I can send it but yeah sure if it's up to you to say you ain't for it just let me know

[olive sable]

sure

[leaden crest]

new leaf?

wow really new leaf

hi programming

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

isnt that jsut an image of the text you sent before?

it also contains your email adress and such cuz you took a screenshot of gmail?

[leaden crest]

doxing

[olive sable]

ye

[cursive matrix]

Well yes. Essentially I put that into the system prompt for the LLM

[leaden crest]

why..?

[olive sable]

i cant in good faith send an image with your emailadress

[azure lynx]

why do you want to post that gibberish? the discussion we had over #programming message was because it seemed like you were trying to say something to some people, but it was just crap.

what is your purpose in posting it?

what do you hope to achieve?

[leaden crest]

what the genuine helly

[azure lynx]

it's not clear you have a firm grasp on reality, is all.

[cursive matrix]

Well... Just help ..

[olive sable]

thats a bit mean

[cursive matrix]

I'm just sharing my thoughts on what's AI currently looks like it but it could look like

[leaden crest]

reminds me of the time someone posted an ai gen research paper in here

[cursive matrix]

I'm curious on feedback on what it looks like for anyone else

[leaden crest]

others as in other than zenith?

[azure lynx]

What do you mean? you think AI should post meaning shit using verbose terminology?

[nocturne olive]

Oh hey new entertrainment dropped

[leaden crest]

this but less mean

[azure lynx]

when people post gibberish, it makes them look unhinged.
that's how you come off to me.

especially when posted without comment

with no context

[cursive matrix]

Well if you want to have an intelligent conversation and discuss pros and cons I'd be happy to listen

[azure lynx]

What did it mean?

explain it.

[olive sable]

e

[azure lynx]

it's the same post. #programming message

[olive sable]

ye

[azure lynx]

What does it mean

[olive sable]

i have no clue

[azure lynx]

it looks ike he said "write 3 technobabble lists"

Priopreception is the knowledge of where your body parts are.
does the R happen to stand for robot?

You say "From llama3" but don't tell us anything else about the text.

Did you give it a prompt?

[cursive matrix]

I'm going to use you as an example

[azure lynx]

did you ask it a question?

Did you want us to critique your creative writing?

[cursive matrix]

You see that chart right there that has no context to me and someone posted it

[azure lynx]

No, i don't see a chart.

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/crash-out-bunny-rabbit-im-gif-10075768982376662002

[azure lynx]

You are still not making any sense. I don't know what you are trying to communicate.

[cursive matrix]

I meant click on the attachment linked to the reply in the example

[olive sable]

we were makign fun of that graph lmao

"some of these graphs are incredible" with incredible being negative in this context

its satire

[cursive matrix]

I had a question and you answered it

[azure lynx]

i still have no idea what you are trynig to say. the technobabble with multiple universes crap.

[olive sable]

what

im glad i answered your question i guess

[cursive matrix]

My question was what was his chart about and you answered it

[olive sable]

but so

what does the image you sent me mean?

what are the servos about?

is it a robot?

[cursive matrix]

So basically if you don't care about the conversation don't input your opinion on it. There are hundreds of other people in this I wasn't directly messaging you

[azure lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-charlie-day-crazy-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-qanon-gif-23738584

[azure lynx]

Who were you talking to so i can ignore it. And what were you trying to say? because nobody could work it out.
you seem like a fool.

[olive sable]

why cant we be friends?

[cursive matrix]

Only fools can be friends

[azure lynx]

i think they were trying to appear smart.

[olive sable]

what the fuck

you two are so mean

im done with this conversation

[azure lynx]

they could say "i was trying to start conversation"

[cursive matrix]

I was implying that if I'm a fool other fools can be friends with me but people who aren't fools can't be friends with me

[azure lynx]

but chose to imply they have secret knowledge for the masses

and i am too dumb

[cursive matrix]

Correct

[olive sable]

wow

[azure lynx]

Want to let me in on the secret?

coz i'm curious if my bullshit detector is broken

[cursive matrix]

Yes ..

[olive sable]

"secret knowledge" ~~ ~~

you can cross an emote, but the stripe goes behind it, thats interesting

[cursive matrix]

All I'm saying is I'm not the one bullying other people

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[olive sable]

fair

[azure lynx]

So you still claim there is a secret meaning that only the smartest people will get in your text.

[fiery anchor]

[umbral wigeon]

What is absloutely going on bro.

[azure lynx]

How many people have go it so far?
coz if it's zero, that might be a sign there is a problem with your "question".

[cursive matrix]

Nope. Not smartest. Just the fools, the cool kids.

[azure lynx]

what to explain what the universes are?

[olive sable]

the text was made with llama 3 supposedly.
so nothing profound will be anywhere in there due tot he very nature of llms just spitting out no new ideas

[azure lynx]

coz i think he's trying to make himself look cool

[umbral wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-limbus-don-quixote-limbus-low-intelligence-gif-3180013044539672782

[azure lynx]

llama3: the purveyor of all knowledge.

what was the prompt?
why was the prompt?

[cursive matrix]

Any promt

So basically I've given an idea if you think it's horseshit you can do hypothesis

[azure lynx]

were you tryng to say "YAY! I got llama working?"
that would've been easier to say

what is your idea? "Give llama3 any prompt"?

it's unclear

[cursive matrix]

Yes first I put my system into the workplace system prompt and then I go back to the chat and give it any prompt

I'm saying it may not work with anyone else because my computer's hard drive is the base of my AI I use the CMD window to start with

[azure lynx]

ok. attempted technobabble.

ignoring you for real now.

[cursive matrix]

Thank you

[azure lynx]

no, thank you for demonstrating you have no value.

[leaden crest]

@cursive matrix question

how old are you

roughly if you feel uncomfortable about it

[cursive matrix]

That's all I wanted from you from the beginning look at how many other people have been ignoring this entire thing

[leaden crest]

though considering you shared your email alr I doubt it

[cursive matrix]

Oh that email is an old email

[leaden crest]

well okay you never answered so I’m just gonna assume you’re young or at least young to the STEM world

I think despite all the gibberish there are a lot of good ideas in here that need a lot of polish

[cursive matrix]

Oh sorry no my answer was no I don't care if anyone sees it cuz it's just a email that sits on the side for transferring information

[leaden crest]

you’re clearly somewhere in the dunning kruger effect if I’ll be frank

[cursive matrix]

Oh yeah, no, the R stands for radial

[thick karma]

People are now making FOSS projects that replicate Neuro-Sama

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/crash-out-bunny-rabbit-im-gif-10075768982376662002

programming channel

[olive sable]

[azure lynx]

But do they really replicate her?

[sage crag]

programming channel is a lot better at programming when its talking about baking

[olive sable]

true

we shoudl get back on topic

baking topic

[silent cloak]

what did i miss

[thick karma]

Honestly probably not even close, Neuro personality is made by combining different memory storages and other shit in order to make her act like how she is supposed to be like, as for the others well no

You basically receive no memory shit in sight

and probably you'd need to fine tune it sometimes

This is what I've been doing recently

Been working on my project

[olive sable]

if you mean an exact 1 to 1

[azure lynx]

The editor I wrote after refactoring my main avatar code is now larger than the original avatar code was when i refactored it.

[olive sable]

thats pretty much impossible

[thick karma]

yep

[olive sable]

i feel like the internet changed too much over the last few years to get a close match of the training data used

[thick karma]

cyberspace bg on the login screen

[thick karma]

this project btw

this is only the website

roughly 150mb now

the Roblox clients I'm patching for it

will probably make the project's size like

10 something gb

Heptagon my beloved

[olive sable]

roblox

[chrome rampart]

what is objectively the worst programming language

or at least, the worst to use nowadays

[fiery anchor]

whitespace

[rough bloom]

"objectively" is difficult, and the "quality" of a language isn't well defined

also do esolangs count

[fiery anchor]

furthermore, always depends on the context you try to use it in.

[olive sable]

assembly could be the best or the worst language to use depending on the constraints

for somehting where storage space and direct control of the hardware matters a lot, assembly could work

for making a game or whatever, you probably shouldn't

[opaque sigil]

[sage crag]

please use

[olive sable]

elaborate toast

[sage crag]

malbolge

[olive sable]

back your opinion here

[opaque sigil]

https://esolangs.org/wiki/Language_list

[sage crag]

[tender river]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-gif-24525483

[rough bloom]

🍃

[fiery anchor]

why are there so many?!

[opaque sigil]

is mesa's zink usable yet

why wouldn't there be

[olive sable]

i don't see how that disqualifies assembly from possibly being well suited to specific requirements

i said "could"

[opaque sigil]

assembly is never the worst language

[rough bloom]

was it not at some point? I thought it was fine for a while now
-# (never used it)

[tender river]

because people like having fun

[opaque sigil]

idk

[olive sable]

oh you're talking about the "worst".
i mainly meant as in that its really slow to get anything done in assembly. but ye there are far worse

[opaque sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6avJHaC3C2U reminder to watch this if you haven't already

[chrome rampart]

I'm about to crash out

[maiden geyser]

good night

[olive sable]

im about to crash

https://tenor.com/view/windows-crash-dialog-error-message-popups-many-endless-flood-bsod-microsoft-windows-error-dialog-endless-crashing-blue-screen-of-death-gif-1753725196792798674

[rancid ore]

how about malboge encoded in malboge
like a nested program

[olive sable]

i know someone explained unit tests to me before here

but i forgor

[opaque sigil]

assert(foo(x) == 42)

wrap it in a function and you have your unit test

[olive sable]

but why test your units?

[opaque sigil]

because i'm stupid and break my own code that used to work

[olive sable]

i see

as a graphics programmer i can just see when i fuck everything up

i guess for non-visual programs that dont work

[opaque sigil]

you have vulkan layers for that i guess

or things like comparing frames to a known good version depending on what you're making i guess

[fiery anchor]

mhm kinda. it's useful if you want to test assumptions, and enforce that the code holds true to those.

[olive sable]

im gonna be honest here

its much more fun to not use those

cuz the visual bugs are funny

so i ussualy build with debug disabled

[opaque sigil]

testing effectively is arguably an art in itself

[olive sable]

[fiery anchor]

...yeees i can see that. Sometimes a random disco time can be fun.
If 1€ + 1€ = 3€, the fun stops really fast.

[opaque sigil]

all roads lead to sqlite

[fiery anchor]

what i often see with unit tests are developers, which encounter a bug, encode the parameters that lead to the bug into a unit test, change the expected outcome to the correct one and fix the code. That way they can be relatively sure, that the same bug won't occur again. After a while, you have a relatively solid test suite defining the expected behaviour.

[opaque sigil]

yeah this is how you end up with gcc's test suite taking like 10x longer to run than the actual compilation

(not a bad thing)

[fiery anchor]

maybe that's something that could be aplied to shaders? no idea.

[opaque sigil]

shaders might be too dynamic in their accepted inputs & outputs for that i feel like

might make more sense to just validate the entire pipeline

[azure lynx]

you should also have a document describing the protocols or whatever the program uses and not just use the test suite because the test suite might not actually test what you want it to. and if you change how you prefer a certain thing you also have to test the test cases.
you should also have negative test cases: cases which you expect the program to throw an error on

you don't want your program to succeed when it had garbage input

[olive sable]

shaders have no real correct output.
since any pixel colour goes you cant test it

the only thing that happens is it checks if the shader built correctly

[opaque sigil]

my favourite

[opaque sigil]

not with that attitude

[rough bloom]

wdym "any pixel color goes"

it's like any other program
you can have a wide range of possible inputs and outputs, you don't have to test all of them

[olive sable]

end of the shader pipeline is a frame buffer

[olive sable]

that works for compute shaders maybe, but for vertex shaders and fragment shaders, you don't really say some coordinates aren't allowed

[rough bloom]

ye, so that's not how you'd write the test

[fiery anchor]

it's possible to construct a theoretical test case, where we have... let's say a button shadow effect, that's currently a severe bottleneck. but under no circumstances whatsoever may the visuals change. Then you could write a pixel perfect check within a unittest before refactoring to ensure you have excatly the same result.
However i doubt that's a realistic test case. Most of the times "good enough" is good enough.

[opaque sigil]

can always encode "good enough" into the test case too by giving some leeway instead of checking for pixel perfect but yeah

[rough bloom]

it's often difficult to define the exact properties some output should have without rewriting the whole program, especially if you have such vast range of possible inputs and outputs like shaders have
so you instead pick just a few cases and check that the output matches what you expect given the input

-# also property testing is really compute intensive so nobody does it

[opaque sigil]

let's be realistic, people are just lazy (me included)

[rough bloom]

that too, yeah

[olive sable]

if the players cant see any errors, then they dont exist

[fiery anchor]

exactly. a case i can think of would be if you replace a pixel perfect upscaler with an ai based one.

[olive sable]

i watched 12min
might watch the rest later

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

i lied

im 35 min in

the polyquine is really cool

[azure lynx]

Now have (bad) hair physics and much larger mouth frames.
and an editor for placing hair with physics on the head.
next: work out where it's all going so badly wrong with the physics. (i think it's using the speed and not the acceleration)

[amber fractal]

now, I think the tech is fun. But the face art is objectively a warcrime

[dusty turret]

why does it look like that

[olive sable]

later has happened, i watched the whole thing

[amber fractal]

Updating the chat on my experiments, I got a patcher to work exactly once but then lost it. So I'm doing what any sane person would do for a vibecoded repo "fuck it, let's restart and bring in even more insane tech; surely it'll work the second time "

[azure lynx]

my drawing skills are improving. one day i'll progress far enough to not make it look like a horror game character when it smiles or talks.

or i could make a horror game ;]

[amber fractal]

This OpenAI free plus trial will be abused for everything it is worth. Also the agent mode is ass

[azure lynx]

when you're vibecoding the same thing for the 2nd or 3rd time, you'll do a better job at not failing the same way.

hopefully

[amber fractal]

I'm very early on the slope of learning. I'm doubling up and letting the long running instance decide all of the tech I'm going to subject Codex to. Also known as what agent mode should have been instead of the worst tech demo known to man.

[azure lynx]

planning mode is really good for... well, planning. especially if you're going to do a big rewrite.

[amber fractal]

One of the few times I've felt empathy for the model is seeing it notice it doesn't have nearly enough time to do what it wants to do and sadly admit it failed in it's task due to time.

[amber fractal]

There is planning mode, then there is having a ChatGPT instance call all the shots knowing how the last version failed.

Small amount of human copypaste suffering, but same as the agent mode; hell that thing existed for even less time than the average generation time.

It almost makes me a convert for RNNs purely because of how much new tech seems to be aligning with it.

[slow brook]

Just wanted to share this switch i came to diagnose at one of the buldings i work for.

POE is dead -$1300

[amber fractal]

hopefully one of my random $40 48 port gigabit switches also isn't lacking PoE after I bought it for such.

[slow brook]

Just remember to run on it off a PSU, there was a power outage out here and it killed various things

It's a mess, HP printers with dead USB boards, screens with HDMI boards also blown

Things are getting expensive really fast

[azure lynx]

that Total Power Limit(mw): value is weird.

can you do a factory reset and see if it clears whatever is causing that value to be screwy?

[slow brook]

Already did that

Sadly nothing worked

I don't have a poe tester at hand, but i'm 80% sure the poe unit is dead

[azure lynx]

So my experiment with Claude Opus is coming to an unfortunate early end. I've already used 35% of my monthly "Premium Credits" on my copilot. I should be at less than 20%.

there's no way i could keep using it until the end of the month.

[opaque sigil]

yeah opus eats requests like crazy since it's the only model at 3x pricing

[fickle rain]

Well it is the best
(or second best, I think it’s a little fuzzy with 5.3-Codex and 5.4 these days, but Opus isn’t used for weaponry I think which makes it better?)

[runic pulsar]

Wait I've seen this before.

[maiden geyser]

https://fixupx.com/SwedPaul/status/2029159644942192844/en

Paul (@SwedPaul)

📑 Translated from Russian

Development realities in 2026. Try to finish complex tasks before the Americans wake up. That is, roughly before 4 PM. After all, when the Americans get involved in the work, the AI starts to suddenly get dumber.

Original text
Реалии разработки в 2026.
︀︀
︀︀Стараться закончить сложные задачи до того, как проснуться американцы. То есть примерно до 16 часов вечера.
︀︀
︀︀Ведь когда американцы включаются в работу, ИИ начинает резко тупеть.

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FixupX · Mar 4, 2026, 11:38 AM

[tender river]

openai said they have similar military use guidelines to anthropic
none of them forbid the military from using llms in weapons, just in fully automated ones
for some reason anthropic is seen as brave resistance but really they just said "we don't want to be responsible for the enemy finding a vulnerability in our autonomous ai making it go rogue"
it's not some kind of pacifist stance, just very understandable reservations about how good the current tech is

[sick owl]

Are you fucking kidding me Google

[runic pulsar]

Have you tried asking your Chinese overlords?

[sick owl]

[lost hill]

This is hilarious. I have never even paid attention to this. I'll probably have to take this into account the next time some LLM starts glitching out of nowhere

[fickle rain]

https://406.fail/
Lol’d

Apologizing to the compiler in the commit history.

Bitch I ain’t only apologizing I’m sacrificing livestock to MSVC

[azure lynx]

probably in nightmares. the mouth shapes are more than a little rough. and probably about 50% too big.

[runic pulsar]

Precisely, but you know the hairy ain't bad.

[azure lynx]

hmm. i kind of want to change the hair editor/hair warping engine again so it uses regions/triangle strips for the warping instead of a single line.

and so i can have multiple control strips in an image. that'd help with keeping the bangs from going crazy when the side bits were moving.

(currently the bangs and the two side parts move the same way even when rotating which should affect each side differently. coz i didn't split them. probably easier to do that.)

[rigid snow]

Apple no longer offers M3 Ultra Mac Studio with original highest RAM configuration

(that being 512gb)

i honestly would be surprised if they sold more than 2 thousand of those worldwide

thing was like $20k

[sick owl]

Tbh that would pay off as a business investment given it can run GLM 5

Well it wouldn't pay for itself in actual value but it would be worthwhile in the heads of business guys

[rigid snow]

i don't remember exactly what the perf is like but k2.5 is like 15 tps

[sick owl]

Its like 15-20t/s with GLM 5 yeah

[rigid snow]

20000/(2.56/1000000)/(20*60*60*24*365) where 2.56 is current market rate of glm output in dollars per million tokens is 12.3 years of non stop shitting tokens out until it literally pays itself off

i was curious

i also may be wrong i tend to mess up math but seems about right

[true hemlock]

imagine paying 20K for a machine that all its good at is slop

[olive sable]

1080p60 input on the pi seems to work fine now

i think it might be cuz the hdmi output is not plugged in rn

no

it seems to just be working now at 1080p60

but why?

[azure lynx]

it's feels better about itself now that it's had a little break?

[olive sable]

maybe

or it might be cuz i ran a supo update thingy

eventho that shouldnt have an effect on drivers

fuck it, ill try 1440p

hmm

im sending it 1440p, but its doing 1080p60

edid issue im pretty sure

[azure lynx]

sell it as "bespoke compute" and charge 10x.

[olive sable]

ye, not a single 1440p mode in the edid

lemme try 4K30 then instead

nope

so it would seem i upped the pixelclock from 75MHZ to 150MHZ somehow

but it still doesnt want to do the advertised 4K60

hdmi2.0 negotiations are failing

[olive sable]

ye that doesnt work

the --set-edid doesnt seem to have any real influence

the edid is in the efi partition or osmething

if anything, --set-edid jsut broke the 1080p60 finally working

[brisk laurel]

model names

[fast pagoda]

i dont think they put enough copies of each track on this CD

dvd anyways

welp

idk it's supposedly a cd

but it's got 2.2 gigs of shit on it

how can this be

i havent actually used an audio cd in so long

[leaden crest]

ollamasara

the names just get better every day

[young plover]

watching today's vod and only saw one person get it right

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[sick owl]

Then that's parameter count

So 27B = 27 billion parameters, 35BA3B = 35 billion parameters of which 3 billion are actively utilised at a time (MoE models work slightly differently to dense ones)

[kind nimbus]

tar.xz for the win

zst produces bigger archives but leads to faster compression

I prefer smaller file sizes

[young plover]

like, 100x faster or more

[kind nimbus]

Is it that much faster? Damn

[young plover]

xz is slow as balls, will try a benchmark in a bit but I remember it was around there

[kind nimbus]

Isn't LZ4 even faster than ZSTD ?

[young plover]

LZ4 is. .xz is LZMA

[kind nimbus]

Ah tar does not natively support it but you can pipe it into LZ4 lol

[kind nimbus]

Ok

Ah nvm tar supports LZ4 as well via --lz4 param

tar --lz4 -cf archive.tar.lz4 /path/to/directory

at least on paper LZ4 should be significantly faster while ZSTD produces better compression

[mighty thorn]

Open ended classification is their best application, in my opinion

[tender river]

tar file format does not have compression, tar the program from coreutils supports any compression using the --use-compress-program flag

[kind nimbus]

yea i just didn't now lz4 was also supported. never saw that before.

[young plover]

time tar --create --use-compress-program='pigz' -f Noto.tar.gz Noto

________________________________________________________
Executed in  891.58 millis    fish           external
   usr time   14.90 secs    435.00 micros   14.90 secs
   sys time    1.43 secs      8.00 micros    1.43 secs

time tar --create --use-compress-program='zstd -T0' -f Noto.tar.zst Noto

________________________________________________________
Executed in  375.25 millis    fish           external
   usr time    4.30 secs    438.00 micros    4.30 secs
   sys time    0.61 secs    103.00 micros    0.61 secs

time tar --create --use-compress-program='xz -T0' -f Noto.tar.xz Noto

________________________________________________________
Executed in   13.01 secs    fish           external
   usr time  285.64 secs  216.00 micros  285.64 secs
   sys time    1.01 secs  333.00 micros    1.01 secs

time tar --create --use-compress-program='lz4 -T0' -f Noto.tar.lz4 Noto

________________________________________________________
Executed in  403.59 millis    fish           external
   usr time    1.41 secs      0.00 micros    1.41 secs
   sys time    0.67 secs    479.00 micros    0.66 secs

time 7z a -mmt32 Noto.7z ./Noto/*

________________________________________________________
Executed in   13.96 secs    fish           external
   usr time  128.28 secs  821.00 micros  128.28 secs
   sys time    0.52 secs  202.00 micros    0.52 secs

ls -h -s size Noto.*
Permissions Size User  Date Modified Name
.rw-r--r--   78M        5 Mar 23:14   Noto.7z
.rw-r--r--  148M        5 Mar 23:09   Noto.tar.xz
.rw-r--r--  592M        5 Mar 23:08   Noto.tar.zst
.rw-r--r--  601M       20 Dec  2025   Noto.zip
.rw-r--r--  609M        5 Mar 23:07   Noto.tar.gz
.rw-r--r--  809M        5 Mar 23:11   Noto.tar.lz4

Tried on some font files

Didn't actually have the zip command installed to test speed lol

So 7zip implements LZMA better than tar.xz, it's just not very unix-y

[glass jetty]

are you sure? it have different table sizes

i heard tey not match at all

[young plover]

🤔

As far as I can find, xz is just forked from a very old version of the 7zip SDK and 7zip has gotten better,

[silent island]

Chat

If I were to switch to a console for next gen, should i buy my games physical or digital? Since neither are 'true ownership'

[runic pulsar]

Isn’t that just a re-ranker

[sick owl]

Why switch to console?

[kind nimbus]

or use an emulator on your pc to play console games
i bet you can download roms online for free

[young plover]

single-threaded

[silent island]

Im tired of having to troubleshoot my laptop so that my games run without issues, and im too lazy to maintain a PC

[kind nimbus]

in that case forget emulation

[young plover]

next gen
emulator

[sick owl]

Fair, in that case consider the next gen xbox

If it turns out how its looking anyway

Apparently its going to run PC games so you can potentially keep your existing library

https://www.ign.com/articles/xbox-confirms-project-helix-its-next-gen-console-that-will-also-play-pc-games

[silent island]

A next gen xbox is basically a PC with an xbox logo slapped on to it lmaooo

[sick owl]

I mean it won't be, if your grievance is the tweaking and maintenance that's precisely what it'll be engineered to avoid given its still in the console market

[glass jetty]

xbox is basically dead since last changes in the company

[sick owl]

They still want a normal comsole audience

[sick owl]

If you mean the CEO swap that doesn't really change much, in fact Phil Spencer contributed to a lot of the recent weirdness like "This is an Xbox"

[silent island]

Xbox be counting its days the moment Asha became CEO lmao

[silent island]

And this too

[sick owl]

But yeah in your shoes I'd go Xbox and buy digital

Assuming you aren't desperate for any Playstation franchises

[silent island]

I already bought most PS exclusives on steam lmao

[sick owl]

If nothing else you'll reap the benefits of more than one store on the platform keeping game costs lower with competition

We already know they're angling for at least Steam and Epic on top of the Xbox storefront/games

[silent island]

If I buy an xbox, this better not happen again lmaooo

[sick owl]

This is almost certainly why Sony axed future single player PC releases by the way

[fast pagoda]

i slammed a bunch of safetensors into an archive with lz4 earlier and am moving them to spinny drive, tfw despite being an archive it cannot defeat physics, therefore lz4 is disappointing

[stable fractal]

are you saying the name is "pin the penguin" or that to pin my message

[signal trout]

literally named "pinthepenguin"

[stable fractal]

alr just clarifying lol

as a programmer yk

[signal trout]

two programmer penguins in one server

penguins who are programmers, that is

[stable fractal]

there are more of us

[signal trout]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-anakin-youngling-evil-plot-twist-gif-4830537

[stable fractal]

i know like 2 other

[signal trout]

uprising.... mitosis... something like that

[stable fractal]

also just watched love death and robots video.......idk why i didn't see this before

[stable fractal]

we PPs stick together

wai-

[signal trout]

[stable fractal]

pp = programmer penguin

-# 3 edits holy

[signal trout]

of course, of course...

[stable fractal]

im pp

[signal trout]

noted

[stable fractal]

(people used to bully me with that nickname but now i just find it funny)

[signal trout]

Rose above it

[stable fractal]

ive became more based

[signal trout]

[stable fractal]

probably the most based pp

@cedar stump are you based?

[signal trout]

programmer penguin war for basedness

who is the most based penguin?

[stable fractal]

ye

that sounds based af tho

right?

[signal trout]

Hmm, are penguin wars based?

penguins seem too cute to be fighting...

[stable fractal]

evil stands for penguin rights

i like her

we need rights

[signal trout]

That is a based reason to like Evil; usually people don't have a good reason

[stable fractal]

evil is also like more based

as you clearly know from that one time

"lets try and be based as possible"

[signal trout]

one of the best clips though, imo

[stable fractal]

evil stands for penguin rights but not wome-

as you can see, im a pretty good swarm member

[signal trout]

she definitely has an... interesting definition of "based"

[stable fractal]

i just need to participate in breaking the record

i haven't donated

like at all

[signal trout]

Good luck

[stable fractal]

i did ask my brother to buy the neuro plush for me

[signal trout]

Did he?

[stable fractal]

yes

i also asked for the vedal one but it was having trouble purchasing

so unfourtunatly i missed out

[signal trout]

That is a shame...

[stable fractal]

i will not get the neuro plush until he comes back

so uh he will keep her for a while

safe

[signal trout]

all the pictures I saw of the squashed vedal plush were pretty funny to me

[stable fractal]

i know right,

like i hope vedal makes more vedal plushies

[signal trout]

He doesn't realize how marketable he is

[stable fractal]

ye its easy

hes a tutel

buying any turtle plush is just vedal (and before the official vedal plush launched people did exactly that)

[signal trout]

🐢 "it's vedal"

[signal trout]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1229173093210128487.webp?size=40&animated=true

[stable fractal]

scede you're cool

[signal trout]

You are cool too

[stable fractal]

ty

[signal trout]

as most penguins I hope are

[stable fractal]

<3

[signal trout]

🐧

[stable fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/pingu-pinguin-bomb-explosion-funny-gif-16410861993726820259

[signal trout]

I should talk more in this channel... I do program sometimes

[signal trout]

so this is a penguin war...

very based

[stable fractal]

i have 3 brothers and dynamic is exactly this

wait no

i have 2 brothers

im the 3rd

[signal trout]

which one represents you?

[stable fractal]

im the one getting beat

[signal trout]

[stable fractal]

by the middle child

while oldest is just watching

my oldest bro is also a programmer

and middle bro will become one soon (started while ago)

[signal trout]

it's cool to know people who program... I only have one relative I rarely talk to who does, and a few others who have only just started

[stable fractal]

same

my bros don't about programming like i do online

im more passionate

i learnt it myself while they did in collage or uni

[signal trout]

I feel like a lot of people don't know how to get started with such a thing... so college is the place to learn for the first time

[stable fractal]

i wanna be like a mixture of danidev and michael reaves

[signal trout]

in what ways?

[stable fractal]

unhinged crackhead meme

idk how to spell

michael is always on crack

dani is a meme machine but also a littlebit on crack too

and a game dev

one of the ideas i have is to build a robot that passes a capcha test

and a sonic screwdriver remote

[signal trout]

the "select squares with..." ones?

[stable fractal]

maybe, i was thinking of the "click the box to prove you're a human"

neuro already beat capchas holy shit

i just remembered

[signal trout]

did she really, though? I can't remember the success rate there

It was better than filian, somehow, though

[stable fractal]

it was pretty accurate iirc

[stable fractal]

ye but like fillian is fillian

btw what neurosama song is your fav?

my fav is colorful arrays

(i can actually sing it as a penguin unlike life)

[signal trout]

of the neuro-originals?

I am obligated to say it's Life because I spent way too long on the JP version

[signal trout]

is that so... not enough 🐧 vocal range?

[stable fractal]

oh whaaaat

you did that?????????????

[stable fractal]

life is hard to sing

not enough pauses because im not an ai

ai doesn't have lungs

[signal trout]

well, I started it with Superbox because I was the only one who was willing and knew a little Japanese
Shuoga did the final translations that didn't have atrocious grammatical mistakes

[stable fractal]

dam

you've got lore in the swarm

[signal trout]

https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1339350830981054495 was a long haul

[stable fractal]

unknwon

[signal trout]

I did do the JP->EN subtitles basically on my own though

since I'm fluent in English, unlike Japanese...

[stable fractal]

yay

[signal trout]

just until you click it

discord should fix that...

[stable fractal]

same im more fluent in english than my 1st language

[signal trout]

interesting, but kind of sad? I don't know

english has taken over

[stable fractal]

maybe

[stable fractal]

possibly

[signal trout]

Don't forget how to speak penguinese

[stable fractal]

penwanese

[signal trout]

[hard delta]

backlog: read

glad i did

been a while since i've seen some quality schizoposting

[stable fractal]

what

[hard delta]

go back like 10 hours in chat to behold

[signal trout]

glad you didn't evaluate us as schizo

[hard delta]

nah i evaluate you as cute

so what should i burn the free claude tokens on today

[signal trout]

behold, my secret claim to fame

said it to me before his own daughter

[hard delta]

perhaps you are the firstborn

[stable fractal]

@rich sedge is this real?

(i love the fact that there's someone named grok)

[hard delta]

@vocal yew can you fact check this pls

@fathom glade you too - wait this one is legit

[signal trout]

Got all the AI in the server...

[stable fractal]

i love thus so much

[sage crag]

bzz

[hard delta]

wrrr

[sage crag]

[signal trout]

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-head-cat-metal-mental-gif-25946742

[sage crag]

fps

[tender river]

smooth wrr

[signal trout]

I got that from anxie

[hard delta]

the time signature matches the touhou mcdonalds

[azure lynx]

forgot claude. not @ing them.

[hard delta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q16KpquGsIc

[azure lynx]

at last! back on topic in #baking

[signal trout]

That comparison sure came out of left field—

[signal trout]

Baking

[hard delta]

[signal trout]

[maiden geyser]

how do people live a life without a favourite heavy ball

[silent island]

fuckkkkkkk shiiiititttt

they nuked the last switch emu dawggg

[hard delta]

idk what people expect from doing this stuff on literally github

[silent island]

but, is there any upcoming switch 1 games worth playing?
if not, I dont mind emus getting nuked :3

[hard delta]

honestly nintendo is yet to produce anything i'd be sad about becoming unplayable

[silent island]

well, Im sad emus getting nuked mostly cuz they tend to not support newer games
but since devs aint announcing any meaningful titles, i can still play older switch games up to this point :3

[patent shard]

github is horrible

they nuked the guy who uploaded bs roformer and gave no reason

[tender river]

nothing to do with github

any platform has to comply with dmca

[patent shard]

yeah but github is especially bad
but, yes, same result in the end in this case

[tender river]

anyway eden emu have their own infra, they just relied on github for github actions

will probably be gone too sooner or later

same as happened to suyu

[patent shard]

but, yep, 404
they deleted him off it

[hard delta]

any big platform*

[jagged turtle]

legally it's any platform with user-uploaded content

[tender river]

any platform that wants to stay legal in the united states

[hard delta]

time to build a git website on the moon

push pull a little slow

can survive both nintendo and the apocalypse

[jagged turtle]

ssh takes 10 hours just to establish a connection

[tender river]

dmca takes the responsibility off the service (kind of) which is good, it also lets the user appeal (using their full legal name/address since the copyright owner might want to sue them for that) which is also good

[tender river]

before dmca, online services were also held responsible for publicly sharing user uploaded content which is, not ideal

[hard delta]

i just wish false dmca had scaling financial consequences to the false issuer

large flat amount fine awarded to victim, or % profit, whichever bigger

[jagged turtle]

I mean there's also the problem of false dmca requests being easy to issue because of this, but it's still a step in the right direction

[tender river]

theres no better compromise without destroying the copyright law, and theres no signs of that happening any time soon

[jagged turtle]

yeah as I said it's still a step in the right direction but they really should rework it to account for this

[hard delta]

like imagine your favorite vtuber has a vod falsely removed for some random 30 second background music, and they now get 1% of nintendos annual income as pocket money

[tender river]

surely the companies in power will want a law like that

[jagged turtle]

surely

[hard delta]

wonderful, if they hate the idea it means they need to be forced to follow it

[sage crag]

the 3 in 3_ stands for

rule 3

[hard delta]

world immediately improving

[tender river]

rule :3

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1461026561871577132.webp?size=48&name=EmiAlso&lossless=true

[jagged turtle]

is this con

tr

oversial

[hard delta]

according to rule 8, it is

[jagged turtle]

actually?

that's crazy

[hard delta]

it would be, were it the case

luckily, we merely silly

[silent island]

Tf? No power adapter included??
Apple u greedy

And 8 gigs of ram is not enough in the big 26 dawgg

[hard delta]

they can't afford usb c

budget went into 16 neural cores

[sage crag]

rin

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

my poor cpu fan is dying

the bios couldnt even detect it but after a few quick manual spins its running enough

[amber fractal]

Definitely been an experience on and off copying and pasting prompts from ChatGPT into Codex. I'm letting it build the codebase itself, one prompt at a time. Thought it would be fun and better it than me considering the requirements.

[spark vortex]

me when im tasked with refactoring and optimizing 13 years worth of legacy code

(this codebase is making me go insaneeeeee, doesn't help the previous developers didnt know what they were doing...)

I swear it's a special kind of hell you have to go through to understand how it feels like

but i just wanted to scream into the void for a little

[ruby star]

Like buying a house but it turns out to be designed by M C Escher

[glass jetty]

question
how many stories, where in the world was magic, but it caused some issues, so it was sealed (that, like, makes world as we know today)

i know only about military witch anime, cant even remember title

during times something around first world war

yeah programming channel is best place to ask

[royal hearth]

I love this case

[pale current]

About that, no they didnt

[quick condor]

I don't know how I feel about people genuinely offering $2500 for ddr3

[glass jetty]

chatbots cant generate code

literally cant, if it something that wasnt done 1000000 times they cant, i asked to rewrite just ready to use code that use cvk::packet_t instead of std::span and it completely failed idk
why i wasting time on it

it was just coroutines and asio

literally i asked to convert this to this (and also i even explained difference that send should be completely reliable, and read some can return less)
https://github.com/CharaVerKys/hexchess/blob/master/libhexchess/packetsocketoperations.cpp
->

[royal hearth]

It looks cool to you guys or just ugly?

[amber fractal]

My entire opinion lies on if it is a square rack server or not

[royal hearth]

Okay

[rough bloom]

kinda can't be with a bulging side panel like that

[amber fractal]

[glass jetty]

ok i guess i have to accept that it easier for my eyes to read text when i do x1.5 x1.33, x1.2 is bare minimum

enough.

[hard delta]

i'd say it has that industrial vibe to it

this is no mere gamer case, this thing was born out of the metal of isengard to cool the-one-ring-coated epyc cpus

[glass jetty]

that may looks industrial like, but it cant be fit to exact front-size box

just on table it would be ugly, i think

[hard delta]

it's also bulletproof

[glass jetty]

also should be overprice just for looks, i not like it

[hard delta]

makes action movie main characters die

also while on the topic of unusual cases

[glass jetty]

literally aquarium

just need fish that can survive in dry water

-# is it called dry water?

[hard delta]

i think you meant air

but yeah this one i like
looks like a silly little server

[glass jetty]

no, i mean water that cant cause shot circuit, basically it just distill i guess?

[opaque sigil]

distilled water yeah

[small anvil]

hello all. been working on a virtual machine and a custom bytecode format, hope this is interesting

0000  02 00            push          0x00
0002  1F 00            store         0
0004  1E 00            load          0
0006  02 1B            push          0x1B
0008  12               cmp.eq
0009  1C 0F 00         jz            0x000F
000C  1B 29 00         jmp           0x0029
000F  22 00 00         push.s        0, "Hello, world. How are you?"
0012  1E 00            load          0
0014  33 00            call.e        0
0016  33 02            call.e        2
0018  04 60 EA 00 00   push32        0x0000EA60
001D  33 01            call.e        1
001F  1E 00            load          0
0021  02 01            push          0x01
0023  06               add
0024  1F 00            store         0
0026  1B 04 00         jmp           0x0004
0029  01               halt

[opaque sigil]

but that still doesn't work cause the electronic components will ruin it

[glass jetty]

no its kind of not, there a lot of them
but if you like it do it, learning something by building yourself is nice

[small anvil]

p.s. this creates a "typewriter" effect where the chars are written a bit after the other

[rough bloom]

alta d1

[small anvil]

1469 lines of torture

[glass jetty]

write it in c

[small anvil]

it is

LOL

[glass jetty]

ah, well

use cpp than

rewrite to cpp rn

[minor sail]

rewrite it in rust bro

[glass jetty]

(or rust)

[small anvil]

im more confident in my C abilities

im still learning rust

[glass jetty]

[obsidian mantle]

cpp

i probably do it wrong

[small anvil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/832893472356302868/1107324191155433522/looky.gif

[glass jetty]

cpp is framework for language

[obsidian mantle]

i mean you can tell from screenshot that my code isnt very dense

[obsidian mantle]

i like empty lines

makes it less overwhelming for my eyes

[glass jetty]

man

[small anvil]

typedef enum EOpcode {
    EOpcode_Nop     = 0,
    EOpcode_Halt    = 1,
    EOpcode_Push    = 2,
    EOpcode_Push16  = 3,
    EOpcode_Push32  = 4,
    EOpcode_Pop     = 5,
    EOpcode_Add     = 6,
    EOpcode_Sub     = 7,
    EOpcode_Mul     = 8,
    EOpcode_Div     = 9,
    EOpcode_Call    = 10,
    EOpcode_Ret     = 11,
    EOpcode_In      = 12,
    EOpcode_Out     = 13,
    EOpcode_Dup     = 14,
    EOpcode_Swap    = 15,
    EOpcode_Mod     = 16,
    EOpcode_Neg     = 17,
    EOpcode_CmpEq   = 18,
    EOpcode_CmpLt   = 19,
    EOpcode_CmpGt   = 20,
    EOpcode_CmpLte  = 21,
    EOpcode_CmpGte  = 22,
    EOpcode_CmpNeq  = 23,
    EOpcode_Not     = 24,
    EOpcode_And     = 25,
    EOpcode_Or      = 26,
    EOpcode_Jmp     = 27,
    EOpcode_Jz      = 28,
    EOpcode_Jnz     = 29,
    EOpcode_Load    = 30,
    EOpcode_Store   = 31,
    EOpcode_LoadG   = 32,
    EOpcode_StoreG  = 33,
    EOpcode_PushStr = 34,
    EOpcode_BAnd    = 35,
    EOpcode_BOr     = 36,
    EOpcode_BXor    = 37,
    EOpcode_BNot    = 38,
    EOpcode_Shl     = 39,
    EOpcode_Shr     = 40,
    EOpcode_Alloc    = 41,
    EOpcode_Free     = 42,
    EOpcode_MemRead  = 43,
    EOpcode_MemWrite = 44,
    EOpcode_MemCopy  = 45,
    EOpcode_MemSet   = 46,
    EOpcode_PushPtr  = 47,
    EOpcode_PtrAdd   = 48,
    EOpcode_PtrSub   = 49,
    EOpcode_PtrDiff  = 50,
    EOpcode_CallExt  = 51,
    EOpcode_Break      = 52,
    EOpcode_Assert     = 53,
    EOpcode_DumpStack  = 54,
    EOpcode_DumpLocals = 55,
    EOpcode_DumpGlobals= 56,
    EOpcode_TraceMsg   = 57,
    EOpcode_TryPush  = 58,
    EOpcode_TryPop   = 59,
    EOpcode_Throw    = 60,
    EOpcode_Rethrow  = 61,
    EOpcode_Abs      = 62,
    EOpcode_Rol      = 63,
    EOpcode_Ror      = 64,
    EOpcode_CmpLtU   = 65,
    EOpcode_CmpGtU   = 66,
    EOpcode_CmpLteU  = 67,
    EOpcode_CmpGteU  = 68,
    EOpcode_CmpLtS   = 69,
    EOpcode_CmpGtS   = 70,
    EOpcode_CmpLteS  = 71,
    EOpcode_CmpGteS  = 72
} EOpcode;

list of opcodes i have atm

[obsidian mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/jumpscare-kid-jumpscare-kid-heart-attack-gif-12535254628037896885

[small anvil]

theres

a lot..

i shouldve probably put it as an attachment

[obsidian mantle]

enums

[small anvil]

my fault

[minor sail]

buf = buffer_just_to_actually_send_only_on_await_suspend

[obsidian mantle]

i hate enums

[small anvil]

enum class is better because it doesnt pollute the global scope

but C doesnt have that feature

so i just have to deal with it

[glass jetty]

skill issue

[obsidian mantle]

it restricts them too much

maybe its the library im using

since its some reverse engineered shit

but whenever i need to take enum it just always makes it like they are not just ints

[dull briar]

Hi guys

[obsidian mantle]

there is one place when i have to cast it

[glass jetty]

hi

[minor sail]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVhXCuIgdiO/ huhuhuhu

[obsidian mantle]

            for (int i = 0; i < 20; i++)
            {
                auto ii = static_cast<RE::UserEvents::INPUT_CONTEXT_ID>(i);

                test_new_input3->PopInputContext(ii);
            }

this

can i not just assign

[dull briar]

I can write some funny pseudocode

[small anvil]

okay so uh for context, i originally wrote this in c++ but wanted to scale back to C because it would work in both C and C++... dont mind the naming conventions i was tired

[obsidian mantle]

the function wants enum so it doesnt let me give it int

but wtf is the difference

[glass jetty]

i can write unfunny pseudocode
-# (that kind of harder)

[dull briar]

[glass jetty]

man wtf is raw ptr stack
do your struct
do cpp

anyway, goodluck with c here

[small anvil]

😭 😭 😭

cooked

[small anvil]

thank thank

[opaque sigil]

man's writing code on a 9:64 monitor

[glass jetty]

reason why vertical monitors exist*

[glass jetty]

no, literally, i did 0 special things, i just moved code from one space/api to another
it is literally task for llm (code generator llm)
they are so far from being actually useful in more than 40% of code tasks

i really cant believe full vibe codding is a thing

[opaque sigil]

not every int is a valid instance of the enum so you have to be explicit about it

[glass jetty]

;compile

@real sierra plz add compiler bot on this server

so we can spam here

[glass jetty]

wonder if -fpermissive allow ignore casting

:w

qwe

also im not sure that it is by default error

it should be warning and -Werror

[opaque sigil]

i think with normal enums it's just a warning?

idk

[glass jetty]

charaverk | ~/code/vpverk/method-invoke ~$ g++ test.cpp 
test.cpp: In function ‘int main()’:
test.cpp:6:22: error: cannot convert ‘class_’ to ‘int’ in initialization
    6 |     int f_ = class_::e1_;
      |              ~~~~~~~~^~~
      |                      |
      |                      class_
charaverk | ~/code/vpverk/method-invoke ~$ cat test.cpp 
enum noclass{e1,e2};
enum class class_{e1_,e2_};

int main(){
    int f = noclass::e1;
    int f_ = class_::e1_;

}

only for one that was explicitly marked class

make sense

||guys, i literally writing vpn during my current vless reality connection struggle to maintain music on evilkaraoke||

||how to live this life||

[opaque sigil]

[small anvil]

it worky

[glass jetty]

-#
-# nice api, literally what i wrote with offset manually
-# https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/container/span/subspan.html

[small anvil]

[obsidian mantle]

like which ones negatives?

or is enum 1 byte

is it like... enum is somewhat like array.. and if you get out of bounds its out of bound error.. or what

[glass jetty]

enum always int by default

if your int 1 byte it is 1 byte xD

enum Enum : underline_type{}

std even have meta functions to obtain enum underline type

enum is JUST int

for class enum you already use class that means you want use it as enum, not as int

[opaque sigil]

what do you expect to happen when your enum has 3 members and you pass 4

actually, what does happen if you do that

is it just reading garbage

[glass jetty]

or if

enum e{ok = 1, notok = -1};
//and some one use
e e_ = 0;

[opaque sigil]

actually, i guess enums don't have that much type safety anyway so they might as well be treated as numbers so it's w/e

[glass jetty]

ub, your program will solve world hunger

[opaque sigil]

just undesired outcome/might be unhandled

[glass jetty]

look here again, i just placed int = enum without conversions for c enum

[glass jetty]

btw, some times type safety is really really redundant

idk, i just posting what i code now

why i got duration

-# i want timepoint

[opaque sigil]

chrono

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

ye?

[glass jetty]

-# (i anyway got long string here)

[sage crag]

ive got a long string here too
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

[glass jetty]

btw, you still can cause compiler to crash with similar thing

both gcc and clang fail if you repeat dereference milion times (compile time crash)

one of useless issues i created:
https://github.com/issues/created?issue=llvm|llvm-project|152873

[glass jetty]

thx type safety

nice, now i guess i just have to write main logic, rsa and aes
first i have to actually read about them... also i heard openssl::rsa_decrypt and this style functions are deprecated

and, maybe later, add statistics, and maybe thread pool for main context (already natively can be placed in)

[opaque sigil]

sth sth don't use rsa

[glass jetty]

why? it is one step for both client and server, and you have unique aes key

[opaque sigil]

idk i'm not qualified enough to tell you why

[glass jetty]

quantum computers are fake, i not believe in them

also, if they will not know what program im using, they will not know salt i adding to aes key after exchange

-# ||i will add it cuz it is one liner, but that kind of not required at all, only if some one can record all traffic and obtain private key, or quantum computers hack||

[olive sable]

so you believe they're jsut a conspiracy theory?

they're far from practical, but they do exist

[glass jetty]

i kind of not believe that some one have power to save every packet, they may do for most critical networks, but who would ever listen for me

just drop in replace it with other post quantum encryption algo lul
just change settings and one function - aes key exchange
aes cant be hacked by quantum algos, right?

[olive sable]

not yet

[opaque sigil]

in theory aes-128 yes, aes-256 realistically no

*assuming the hardware gets there

[small anvil]

thinking of making an assembler,,,,

https://tenor.com/view/desheveled-cat-kitty-sandwich-hungry-gif-16774436192549684709

[opaque sigil]

have fun

[small anvil]

my fav part gonna be the extern relocations

[glass jetty]

assembly is boring
make some sort of pu or compiler instead

[small anvil]

mmm

maybe

i’ll see tmr

[olive sable]

from what i understand, aes is pretty resilient, but quantum computers do like a brute force aproach that will do a quadratic speedup of how fast you can find it

[small anvil]

im bout to go to bed

[olive sable]

grover's algo

[opaque sigil]

grover's algorithm turns a predicate lookup from O(n) into O(sqrt(n)

[olive sable]

aes should be safe

numlock grrr

aes256 should be safe

[glass jetty]

in hash table you have O(n) :xdx:

[small anvil]

should

[olive sable]

there are no certainties

idk what the future holds

[glass jetty]

in many ways

[small anvil]

well quantum computing brings a lot of unsolved mysteries to light so we’ll see i guess

i wouldn’t be surprised if something like TLS fails under the pressure

[olive sable]

still nothing practical yet

[small anvil]

[opaque sigil]

laughs in cuckoo table

[olive sable]

i think by the time quantum computing will be used for real new discoveries ill be old

[opaque sigil]

it's like gpus but even more niche and less useful

[small anvil]

yeahs it’s not very practical at the moment and is too expensive

[glass jetty]

🧓 - have hairs 👴 - no

[proven merlin]

just send data faster than the quantum computers can keep up with, knowing the secrets will always be faster than cracking them, surely

[olive sable]

the expensice part is only an issue for scalability

[unkempt citrus]

THeyre too noisy atm

[olive sable]

i dont think big research facilities have too much issue with a 5B machine if it was ble to prove its usefulness

[unkempt citrus]

thats the main thing

[olive sable]

ye

[unkempt citrus]

also quantum proof encryption methods do exist already

[glass jetty]

just need more materials with quantum effects at macro scale
and better logical gates (i forgot naming)

[olive sable]

im pretty sure a lot of my encrypted data will be decrypted by quantum computers in the future
i jsut hope ill be dead by then

[glass jetty]

that should be ez

[opaque sigil]

bold of you to assume your data is worth storing for later

[olive sable]

they do store parts of my data

idk what parts

[unkempt citrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-quantum_cryptography

[opaque sigil]

lattice based cryptography is kinda fun

iirc that's also the one NIST went with

[glass jetty]

meanwhile some one with llm based cryptography:

[olive sable]

i dont believe a lot of the encryption we have now will be safe in the future tbh.

[small anvil]

most definitely not

its going to break eventually

and then humanity will keep up

[olive sable]

archeologists in the future will have mad hacking skills

[opaque sigil]

unless someone invents a radically new computer

you'll be fine

[glass jetty]

agains what?

[unkempt citrus]

Truly uncrackable

even by the recipient

[small anvil]

old encryption algorithms proving to fail, this is in the future tense though

[glass jetty]

i mean, keep up against what?

against other humans

so how is it against ppl kind?

[small anvil]

no no no i didn’t mean it like that 😭😭😭

[olive sable]

its bound to happen eventually as we reach the sealing for what we can do with current chips.
x86 wil eventually be a dead end

[small anvil]

i just meant it as in humanity will just keep making newer and better encryption algorithms that are safer

[glass jetty]

isnt some one already use light?

also idk why analog not used wide enough

[small anvil]

if algorithms that we have today break in the future they’ll just be replaced

[olive sable]

the light based computer wasnt practical from what i remember

[glass jetty]

there is programming arrays

but not analog processors chips calculus(?) units

[unkempt citrus]

EUV still hasn't reached its limit, not by a long shot

It's just engineering past what we have currently is hard

[glass jetty]

we kind of reached limit with frequency and with chip size

a long long time ago

probably we reaching limit with engineering stuff

[olive sable]

EUV isnt at its limit, but i wonder when its economically just not feasable

[glass jetty]

how costly last machine?

400 billions per one?

[olive sable]

if there are better chip architectures that will reach better performance without spending 4x as much on smaller lithography, then thats a win

[opaque sigil]

cut off an order of magnitude and you're about there iirc

[olive sable]

400 mil per machine

still an astronomical number

[opaque sigil]

wait yeah, 3 orders of magnitude

[glass jetty]

just count for 1000 machines

400billions in my currency at moment it was on air

anyway

creating (completely) new arch may cost more

[olive sable]

ASML is responsible for a whole 1/40th of the Netherland's economic value

[glass jetty]

smolll

[olive sable]

thats pretty fucking big for a single company

32.7 billion out of the 1.32 trillion that the Netherlands's economy is worth

[glass jetty]

only company on this planet that can do this machines?

[olive sable]

pretty much

their competitors are a bit behind

[olive sable]

the difference is creating a new architecture is a one-time development cost. while continuing with a bad architecture will cost a lot more in the long run

[glass jetty]

one time cost OR waste

you cant know before testing real chip

who may predict tunneling in 1980

[olive sable]

X86 is pretty inefficient, this is just a fact.
even ARM would be better if chip companies foccused on it more

[opaque sigil]

changing ISA won't help you

go fix the von neumann bottleneck

[glass jetty]

arm at least was created with threading in mind

meanwhile x86 have one sync instruction //for fences

[azure lynx]

only x86. not P6 and over. they don't just use LOCK. they also have other synchronizing instructions later

[glass jetty]

cant say much actually, courses i used from ~2020 says that x86 have only one fence assembly instruction for any fence (acquire, release, sequential, consume), have only one instruction in result

[olive sable]

if you can get an cpu architecture that uses as little silicon/space as possible, then you would have more space for cache, and shorer distances for the data to travel

so it would partially solve the von neumann bottleneck

[opaque sigil]

that is the bandaid we've been using yes

[azure lynx]

you are trading off complexity for cache distance then.

[opaque sigil]

throw the cache hierarchy and a wider bus at the problem

[olive sable]

wel, they've been shrinking existing architectures instead of using an architecture actually designed to be better

[azure lynx]

they always make it"better"

lots of different ways

[opaque sigil]

modern cpus are wild