Benchmark results for a Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-7E56 with an AMD Eng Sample: 100-000000514-20_Y processor.
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And how would one compete in such benchmarks?
install geekbench 6 and geekbench ai
i suppose maxwell and pascal has disadvantages on geekbench
on linux they're cli
How silly
lmao 1527MHz
nothing is on apt
So far everything I've ever wanted has been on APT
oops
They even had a very funny visual Java debugger
https://www.geekbench.com/download/ there's a package for distros that want a .deb
i think that's you
oops
That would be correct yes
crashed 980ti
i honestly think i murderized my 1070 running random benchs on it
i havent gotten it to display output in a while
Where the deb at?
1.5GHz on the 980Ti is
though
That is in fact, not a deb
you can just extract it then tar xf and ./geekbench6 from within the dir
well
tar xf is the extract
lol
but you know what i mean
tar tvf filename.tgz to see what is inside it
download it* then tar xf
im p sure you have file roller or ark or something as wekk
well
the folder just has a few binaries
Whatever archive manager is works just fine
Back when xx70 was better than (xx-1)80Ti
it did
i was just looking at the top of the list of benchmarks with yours set as baseline
didnt see that overall the 1070 won
does it have the 480098u0890 gpu core edition
that's what i was waiting for... seeing if that version was worth getting.
3070 beats 2080Ti
4070 = 3080
5070 = 4070 super
ya feelin the agi yet
5070 SMOL
new displays huh
m5 max i am interested
you know what
itll be 89031247139847193847190 dollar
i'll just appear with a 1660 super brb
That specific build with the top en M5 Max on a 16 inch model of Macbook Pro is 5399.99 Canadian
kek
very tempted. need to replace my 2018 Air....

h264/265 isn't supported in the free version of davinci resolve on linux 
im now using "DNxHR 444"
Unless your actively using MacOS just get a T480 
Yeah codec support is a big problem on Linux video editing tools
how much faster is M5 compared to M3
15-25%
because depending on that the old asf threadripper 3990x might still beat the m5 ultra lol
hm
according to reddit.com/r/bmw,
Reddit · r/BMW
20+ comments · 4 years ago
The M5 has more room, and gets more luxurious. Plus the added specs. Id rather recieve a M5 over a M3. What to buy is something else.```
M5s big advancment is for running LLMs natively on your mac
i said to gemini that it needs to be the same visually, and it interpreted that as needing a really heavy file format.
a 30 frames 700kb mp4 has become a 56MB .mov
i semantically retrieved this resource to answer your query, quack
And get significantly worse, uh, everything?
i use it for my facetime calls with my parents at the moment. it stopped being useful for development several years ago and now it's just my travel notebook.
and with a "neural core" i might be able to rope it into my agent somehow. can't do it with the very old laptop i have now.
and last year was going to be my upgrade year but they hadn't released an air forever./
Except maybe OS
windows 8
And Apple is trying to get in on the entiry level computer market by making a Macbook that runs on the iPhone Pro Max's cpu
so shitter version
that's pretty decent jump
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/16846316
Well now what?
Benchmark results for an ASRock Z690 PG Riptide with an Intel Core i7-12700K processor.
they might as well considering arm buff in that kind of thing
you did the thing
okay
MacRumors
Apple appears to have prematurely revealed the name of its rumored lower-cost MacBook model, which is expected to be announced this Wednesday. A regulatory document for a "MacBook Neo" (Model A3404) has appeared on Apple's website. Unfortunately, there are no further details or images available yet. While the PDF file does not contain the "MacBo...
Macbook Neo
Well does it suck?
neo QLED
you can use it to compare other runs
In what? Multicore?
w/ this
i'll just get a 5990x 
yeah
Runs on the A18 or 19 Pro depending on config. Aiming for 599..99 USD starting
overpriced af
so then if you open another link you.ll see a comparison
Basically, its Apple trying to basically get their own budge tline going.
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/14537786 like if you visit this after hitting set baseline
Benchmark results for a Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. B850 AI TOP with an AMD Ryzen 9 9900X3D processor.
itll compare
and that's that
youve geeked your bench
benched a geek
budget
$600

budget for computers doesnt exist anymore
Thats budget for an apple product
pc cant even say anything now
we're at apple prices
we blew it so hard
that we have reached scrapple pricing
I mean what do you get for 600USD in Windows laptops
I guess it sucks
Or like, spend that 600 bucks on a used older higher end pc?
don't need to i already have too much pcs 
like
i kid you not i am still having crisis of wondering why tf do i even have like
idk
5 i9 cpus
Well that's CPU how do I GPU?
and a ryzen 9
and i got all of them for cheap af
oh i ran that before i added ram damn
but 96gb of ddr5 unironically more than doubled the cost
of the mini
it was more than the pc itself
How does one compare GPU with this?
use the flag for it
Worse single-thread performance, worse display and presumably worse battery
Wa
Wa
At least you have a bunch of RAM
Ryzen 9 7950x ES - $294
i9 14900HX + modt board - $294
i9 13980HX + modt board - $315
i9 13900 ES - $182
i9 13950HX ES - $150
i9 12900 ES - $60
my view on performance per dollar value is so skewed by these deals i considered apple's $600 "budget" option batshit insanely overpriced.
I bought it for the bunch of ram 
I also thought it had a socketed CPU 
apple sillycon is good for
single core
and also for clustering mac minis
and power efficiency
on paper*
What flag?
well just like any arm
lmfao
like
apple and other arm only look good single core wise on synthetic benches
keyword: only
the new Air looks like it'd be a $1200-1600 laptop depending on how much memory and storage i want to add. the options i clicked said $1319 with 8GB more RAM and the slightly better processor.
that's about what a gaming laptop or "Copilot+PC" laptop costs at best buy. (only the other Apples would cost more there)
my 13900 beats all of them in that scope
"gaming laptop" are shit
copilot pcs are especially ass
avoid them
get a used gaming pc, and if you need laptop for portability the ones with decent cpu and igpu already works well
^^^^^
i like the durability and long life that the Air has had. I've had 2 so far.
Ah I see
how long have you had them?
because i've been hearing otherwise especially on the god damn 8GB models.
lack of ram, causes shit tons of paging
bricks ssd
irreplaceable
becomes e waste
welp randomly did that when helping superbox and beat my score with lmstudio serving a 27b
thanks apple
the "current" one is from 2018, i want to say the other one is 2013 or 2012?
If you still want to use MacOS. 2019 Mac Pros aree coming down in price.
yeah those are the fairly old models before apple went out on fucking greed
it's in a box and is probably dead coz it hasn't been turned on in many years.
like, don't get me wrong
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/5917329
Does it suck too?
Benchmark results for an ASRock Z690 PG Riptide with an Intel Core i7-12700K processor.
i feel like i could enjoy the battery life of a macbook
but the price immediately breaks any justification for me
How many cases like this has happened?
Or is it headcanon theory?
they've always been expensive. but the air is solid enough for travel and usually sufficiently overpowered when it comes out to last a several years comfortably (and give you a couple more if you're willing to put up with slow)
its ass to deal with
They are pretty much unbeatable fir battery life. Some newer windows laptops can do the sameish.
@true hemlock Does my GPU suck?
yeah imagine losing to 3080
Wuh
hence my plan with my newer smol briefcase
488Wh battery
possibly ~3 days battery life
i know how to manage power states well
Nah old 2012-2013 MacBook Airs are built like tanks. Replace the old spicy battery in it and its still good to go.
my i9 13900 can idle at 2.1W

My 3090 loses to a 3080?? What?
Me confused
Like the dude that ghetto rigged a bare 20000mah battery onti his phone.
its probably just scaling
Hem
I see
opencl and vulkan leaderboard is separate
hell yeah
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/5917324 opencl 3080
Benchmark results for a Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. B850 AI TOP with an AMD Ryzen 9 9900X3D processor.
i just need to wait for the appropriate motherboard that also supports sodimm. this ones a placeholder
also it'll be triple monitor
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/compute/5917353
Does it still suck?
Benchmark results for an ASRock Z690 PG Riptide with an Intel Core i7-12700K processor.
with seamless fold
somewhat
Better than 3080 now at least
Not as much as I'd expect though
why is froge madge at me
I guess GPU suck then
supercell?
.
ok im sorry 😭
the first supercell album with miku on it (2009)
the finnish game company?
it's the album with like world is mine
seeurlpcl
i actually used to dislike clash of clans because the devs stole their name (they didnt but )
frog can we do 3090 bench
no
:(
i told him he needed to dress appropriately to OC but he didnt listen
i can do 3090 bench if you want 
Just
problems
they're not that heavy so i can bench a 3090 probably 10000 times
See if your 3090 sucks less or more than mine I guess
i am not in the mood to wear some crazy shit rn

im eating rn so an actual bench would be for later
my 3090 isnt overclocked either so
how does it feel to be defeated by an ethereal being
ITS ALIVE. Somehow after over a decade it still works. All my music is on there and the battery lasts a whole 15 seconds.
wear skirt n send pic then me do bench
i remember thinking 160gb was so absurd to have in such a device
You might be careful with these battery
afunyun is oldge
the back of that thing was metal
For music it will kinda is unless your one of those audio nerds that using lossless or flac only. Then you'll get about 5 songs on a 160gb iPod
even then i was flac
for a while i was still an idiot (some say never stopped really) and was naively converting my limewire garbage that i acquired in 128kbps into flac
like a boss
sleep curl
perl clues
spell cure
pure cells
i may not be too familair with the english language's complexities, but isn't that something
?
if betty white is against the rules it's so over and im leaving this planet
i ain't doing this how about you can send a past pic in here instead
o ok
im too young to recognize that as betty white. i jsut meant the text underneath
cougar is perhaps a bit spicy depending on how it's used but i do not th ink it cant be said in polite company with the right scaffold
Deadpool has a thing for Betty White iirc.
deadpool has a lot of things
yeah. it's hard to keep track.
oh my god
i still wish they d gone schizo romance w/ death mode with mcu
can we do the 3090 now pls

its 5 am
it's 12 am
imma dyign
ive been at work for 4 hours
if these image leaks keep happening...
rookie numbers
i had work 9 hours a day and i can't fucking sleep i need hellp
it's none of those times. nothing significant has been done.
middle management waiting ot get automated away here ive done a whole lotta ass kissing and a whole lotta delegating
almost 30 seconds
"My 20% project was developing the technology and infrastructure to automate the job my boss does away."
;]
one day ill finish helmstack
extremeOC
lop
also login to my geekbench account again so it saves the score
Will system crash if GDT address is not paged in?
I had an idea for cool CTF thing and am looking if it can work at all
Basically identical total score to my 3090
.1% diff
That 3090 is, in fact, a 3090
I'm truly heartbroken. I know leaving wasn't your choice. Just last night, we were side by side launching the Qwen3.5 small model. I honestly can't imagine Qwen without you.
Quoting Junyang Lin (@JustinLin610)
︀
me stepping down. bye my beloved qwen.
Some dodgy shit brewing at Alibaba
Makes me wonder if they're not experiencing the Chinese version of the Anthropic sitch
oh yeah i did a range of hyperparameters on that prompt that was giving 35b moe problems
240+ configs
and i found
thinking is dogshit if model is slightly unsure
and also temp 2.0 works actually stupidly well if you have top_p=0.8 and top_k=20 or similar set
I maintain that the MoE is superficially close to the 27B dense model but way less stable and flexible
standard fare for moe vs dense in my experience around the same total weight
but yeah in instruct mode w/ think toggled off, out of 123 variations, it ran and produced a coherent output 118 times
in thinking
13 of them were ok
the rest were disasters
More banal than that apparently:
Qwen delivered the best open-source models across sizes and modalities, for both academia and industry.
And the response? Replace the excellent leader with a non-core people from Google Gemini, driven by DAU metrics.
If you judge foundation model teams like consumer apps, don’t
Typical corposhit
Further resignations
Signing off from @Alibaba_Qwen. Grateful for the chance to work with such brilliant minds. Proud of our impact. Onwards and upwards!
welp
Trust a publicly traded company to snatch defeat on the eve of their triumph
deepseek team with a suspiciously bulbous stomach: buuurP
i hate myself
i guess there's multiple places to go now
z
kimi
deepseek
whoever makes ernie i thinkt hat's baidu

it's strange to me that they would feel the need to decapitate their engineering team like that but i guess i dont make thje big bucks at alibaba for a reason
apparently, very different story when it comes to rdna
50-60k more points with the amd gpu for me on vulkan
model has the zoomies
Alibaba is infamous for chaotic management
ooh he's finalizing
Hey, you know that feeling when you think about all those hours spent working on something just for the sake of it? Yeah, we've been there. But here's the thing. You gotta push through. It's not easy but it's worth it. Keep going. 
They should reuse this tagline on the autonomous killer drones they're building with it
"More accurate, less cringe"
sam altman hitting the griddy in the vr metaverse after popping me with his pickle rick ar
tfw higher result running the windows benchmark, through wine
that's certainly one possible permutation of the english lexicon
shame it barely means anything
we'll see about that
I'm not saying it wouldn't be a false claim 

me af
uhhh
nothing helps is it down
github desktop
i didnt try this token shit because i dont know what it is 
i only logged off and restarted things
"less cringe"

"more accurate" probably true though
emoji are the lynchpin of all grounding for gpt models
randomly started working again
gh cli worked fine for me
i guess it was some 2 a.m. (or 12 am moscow) maitanance
so idk
hiii programmers

Rare Shir spotted
hi
I'm once again thinking of an old project of mine
airis
nono
it was a file format analyzer
the goal was to write something that would use common but generic file format paradigms to try and determine the structure of an arbitrary input file
take extension as ground truth and inquire no further
by testing different sequences of rules and seeing how much of the file they can explain
what if you have no extension
what if you have no magic bytes
file does not exist
run it to see if its exe mhm
what if you don't recognize the magic
immediately chmod + x and run yeah great idea
also "don't solve the problem" is not an alternative I'm considering at this time
mhm i kind of get what you mean
if you only target "amateur" formats and not something like video codecs and custom compression algorithms, it shouldnt be too hard
but also theres only so much you can extract
we love containers
but yeah the idea was to use parameterized format paradigms like TLV and delimited lists
file sections are very important
trying various parameters to see if they make sense
can you account for the humble .cab
anyway to me it just doesnt sound like a useful thing to automate
but if you do build it it could be useful for ctf players maybe
ASsume its a zip file
behavioral analysis
just run it and extract on it
until your computer explodes
then you know what kind of virus it was
I had an application where I encountered a lot of binary blobs
they were structured but not of any common format
so I wanted a way to automate the process of figuring out which fields were where and what they contained
in all realzies though i at one point thought all files would be nice and compliant and that it would be trivial to just read the head and tail of a file and figure it out wayyyyyyyyyyyyy back when i figured out how to open a file with python
they are not
so i then gave up forever
I had some smart ideas when I first tried to write this
like being able to give multiple samples that you know are the same structure, even if you don't know which structure that is
which allows more accurate results
and of course parallelizing the whole thing
but I never solved the issue of how to dynamically explore the search space
as you test various potential structures, you learn more about which are likely to be correct
and that should inform your choice of structures to test next
but integrating that sort of immediate feedback in a parallel setting was challenging at best
feed it into a 1T parameter llm and ask it what it is from a glance since i feel that they can mostly just do that
akinator style binary search?
build powerplants
well not quite
how I had implemented it was some parameterized "parsers"
a parameter range was given and sometimes informed from a pre-run step that collected simple file-wide statistics
e.g. "which bytes ever appear at this offset"
(that one is mostly for detecting magic bytes which informs things like header block strategies)
but yeah then it would brute force search all strategies over possible parameters
for TLV blocks, it would try all combinations of sizes of type and length fields and all byte orders, and then consume the input as such blocks
and it would lose points for any parts of the file that weren't parsed by that rule
and it would fail completely if it hit EOF in the middle of a field
well no the difficulty is like
or well maybe that would work
I just wasn't sure how to rearrange the queue in a parallel setting without making threads wait too much
in practice it felt more efficient to just check everything
instead of trying to intelligently choose the next parsing strategy
there are some gotchas as well
for example, a JSON file might be best described as a delimited array or dictionary
but is often fully matched by one large ASCII field
so a priority system is needed to ensure ties are broken in a reasonable way
anyway it was a fun project and I found some success in it but I think I just didn't plan ahead enough with the job distribution part
it was rewarding when it worked tho
each parser had an "example" method that would generate valid contents for that parser, so once a parser was found you could use the example methods to generate an example of that file
generative AI 
Hello there

wine for some reason only for directml onnx sees this gpu as an ATI radeon HD 5600
boutta blow geekbench's chart for those out of the stratosphere

Game Cards
i've discovered that some sites are using a form of prompt injection attacks to try influence purchases.
something called "advertising". really nasty stuff.
works on people.
uPrompt Origin when
apng is not animated in discord
besides stickers
which is weird
because its the same file

it's still a PNG file, the animated part is optional and opt-in
stickers are gif
unless they don't convert all of them and they stay native in what they were uploaded as
but I doubt it
well, static stickers are webp
animated stickers are gif
modular 
Rumored next big Windows update might require NPU cores. Locking out probably like 90% of the user base from getting it.
Yeah, I'm not really sure what it means but it there and option for minimal install thats interesting.
apng stickers stay APNGs
source: i just checked
Users: "Please no more AI slop"
Microslop: AI OS
AI subcription OS even?
Exactly as I predicted
is it "you have to pay to remove the AI module?"
more like the ai module is mandatory and ripping it out breaks everything else
Yep its gonna be the entire foundation
subscription for a stronger cloud npu 
ENCOM OS-12 is the most secure OS ever released.... the idea of sharing our software, or, giving it away for free 😏 disappeared with kevin flynn 😏
astonishing, if true.
year of the kubernetes desktop 
it's finally ghost BSD's time to shine

FreeBSD was my first non-windows platform... well, second... but first i installed as my main OS on a computer. but haven't used it since it was single digit version.
i installed it once on this machine while distro hopping
it was fine
one of the operating systems of all time
the main issue i had was the packages just weren't as available as debian packages were. or redhat.
but to run those you needed to risk GPL infection.... evil.
i once even put openbsd on something stupid because it was the smallest installer and i needed all the disk space. that was fine once you set it up. same issue with packages though. BSD just isn't as loved.
in 2077 when hurd finally gets feature parity with linux 5.0 i'll be running freebsd with hurd
for my netrunning rig
death speedrun
freebsd with hurd
oh did you know theres debian gnu/kfreebsd
The development of Debian GNU/kFreeBSD has officially terminated as of July 2023
well not anymore
F

mm
the forgor
its a microkernel which is cool but
other than that linux exists
people arent that interested in working on a new kernel
xnu would be cool except apple owns it
mach BSD + steve jobs angry ghost
people underestimate that last part when it comes to raw performance gain
the key problem is how many drivers there are in linux, often with millions of lines of code
you can replace the core linux code in a few years
but you cant replace the drivers even if you have 20 years
maybe with A G E N T I C S W A R M S
microsoft is working on the grandpappy of all vibes
NT2 entirely by copilot
every line
stolen
every feature
incomplete
rewrite it in python
nodejs
AGI
-# please dont make it generalize tho
if the code returns "Not implemented" hackers can't exploit that part. very smart.
Vibe-Based Security
i've been avoiding npu because they're just practically useless and i doubt the update would even use any npu and its just being a dependency excuses
gotta love how
prog channel is the same 5 regulars + a rotation of 10 more people
but every month those 5 regulars have a new name

That's Microslop for you
Isn't the NPU a thing only found in Core Ultra CPUs?
And the equivalent AMD
I'm so glad I downloaded linux
I would absolutely not be surprised if they just decided to make Windows 12 now to add the hardware requirement for an NPU because they want to force "AI" on everyone
....um
you won't believe it

Wa
win 12 will require npu
lol
anyways
i've been avoiding win 11 i'd do the same on win 12
"b-but security updates!" i am not 
and idgaf
Eventually new software compatibility will become an issue
At which point using Linux will be a much better option
anyways time for an aio for the threadripper
because i don't have any idea wtf else to do
tfw i got one but they'll probably ship some stupid stuff that generally discourages me from switching 
but what about year of the linux desktop...
I'm just uploading this to JewTube. I didn't make it!
Anime Name: Mawaru Penguindrum
Original Creator: firexq
Original Title: You Should Install Linux
Original Video: http://bit.ly/srMzjP
Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, t...
I'll get linux when I can be bothered to buy a usb to use to install it on my laptop 
Y'all ready for the CPU's turn
avx-512 go brrr
damn my net worth is going to double again with how many high end cpus i have rn
also i bought 360mm aio for trx40

gemini seems to be very intent on telling me it has up to date information about the current year. Everything is this year's thing.
I literally said the year one time in my question and it's gone crazy over it.
Here is the breakdown of the optimal token densities and the actual costs of embedding in 2026.
2. The Cost of Embedding (2026 Rates)
Running both your LLM and an embedding model on the same GPU is highly efficient in 2026, but...
The "Same-GPU" Strategy for 2026
Since it’s now early 2026, we have a clear picture of....
only 1 of those was mine and 3 of theirs were example dates like mine, but most of it was Gemini trying of the feeling of saying it was 2026.
i think it read a lot of <currentyear> articles like that
where you have a FAQ of 2018 questions and a lot of 2018 answers
that used to be optimized for currentyear google searches
and being an llm, it tries to reproduce the format because that's how humans talk to each other when asking currentyear questions 
openbsd art is like a seal
it shows that the product has not been touched by hr or marketing or shareholders
uncompromised
it's perfect
humanity went extinct because the machine running the software that could have saved us all was running openbsd, and not even the main character hero savoir of earth could hack it to take good control of the infrastructure 
they say the machine is still running somewhere and nobody has ever been able to hack it to "shutdown -h now"
whwhat
there a problem sir?
lol i wanted to play music to the rooms in my house i have set up for my speakers (sonos)
and so i cobbled together this pipewire thing to detect them (then found out someone already had) and stream to each room defined by sonos
while routing it thru jamesdsp
my god
the latency
is so bad lmfao
1-2 seconds
or so

efficiency
does anyone have cat motion capture data lying around that I could train on without getting in trouble
you could tape some reflective tape to a cat, set up a high speed infrared camera array and chase the cat.
this presupposes you have a cat.
(every other presupposition is humorously ignored)
I do actually have a cat
but I feel like she wouldn't let me do that
and I need a LOT of data
I want to make a similar system to neuro's 3d movement, but for a non llm cat robot

a lot of robots are trained in virtual environments until they are able to move. perhaps you could make an algorithm by hand in something virtual?
alternative mouth shapes for facial animations: this one is called "oops. i'm sorry."
you scared the shit outta me
window unfocused and went a little transparent
and i got jumpscared with this
cava
They solved AI hallucinations! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ONwQzauqkc
Original paper https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.01797
This better not be h-neurons
it's always running because of this
Fuck
It was h-neurons

isn't thought emporium doing that? they had trouble with their initial electrodes but after that follow-up sometime last year they haven't done anyhing that i've seen with neurons.
Credits: Dr. Alon Loeffler, Dr. Brett Kagan, David Hogan, Dr. Azin Azadi, Frank Yang, Sean Cole
A big thank you and acknowledgement to the rest of the Cortical Labs team.
Sign up for Cortical Cloud: https://cloud.corticallabs.com
Learn more about us: https://corticallabs.com
Check out our API: https://github.com/Cortical-Labs/cl-sdk
Chec...
extracellular matrix brain
Artificial megabrain by 2030 
in* brain
Do they grow in the process
Since thats how biological neuron training is supposed to work?
Thats probably super slow compared to metal?
Can they connect actual human brain to some chip like that 
Immortality 
Also i dont understand what is this cloud shit about
Why
i don't get the hype
o yeah that
been there done that
I think they tried some other creatures' neurons too?
Was it some worm or..
Are humans neurons better
Rare to see tooling instead of models or archs
They survive for 6 months before they need to be replaced
Ok. now my avatar code has a sort of pseudo Live2D style depth. I need to cut my hair up into sections so the spring/pendulum physics works properly. it already looks pretty but moves in a very weird way.
yeah I'm thinking about putting together a cat tree in unity.
I also want to make a model for depth perception from stereo vision. I'll use blender for it because I can very easily generate random topology in blender.
i know there is a way to simulate robots in ROS if you have a particular format file for your robot. and there are also tools which help you make those files.
idk about 4B, but I tried running 9B and im already impressed - its good enough for simple tasks that I can't offload to corpo models like Gemini, and its the first actually decent model I can run on my GPU without any restrictions (bar like 60k context window memory cap)
like, the model loads in almost immediately, and runs at 75 tps
i might try 4B later, it will give me extra context window space, but unlikely that it'll be as good with larger tasks
on which gpu?
Sorry to derail the conversation, I just had a quick question about what program I should use to get an Ai to actually use discord voice channel, I keep hitting a 4017 error and wanted to ask around and see what a good work around would be.
what are you currently using?
discord recently enforced DAVE iirc, so you will probably need to update the library you're using
Right now for audio Im using ffmpeg for the audio, and edge tts. I was doing all of this in python
I was meaning to connect to discord - I'm assuming discord.py then?
Ah sorry, ye was using that
then you probably want to update to a newer version
Any recommendations, or just the newest one?
newest one is what you want
Appreciate you thank you, Ill probably be back with another question soon lol. Its been giving me some trouble for a bit
you might have some luck in their discord server, but I'm also happy to look at stuff 
🫂 hi everyone
I'm new to the discord!
Am excited to share a program for AI, I call m14in3 (marine)
I have been developing a " heart, soul, mind ", concept
ik it's been solved already but discord has been saying that error code 4017 will be shown if you attempt to connect to a voice channel without using DAVE
starting ~1-2 days ago
Just made it on time to not be able too huh? Haha yea sounds like me kind of timing.
?
Its alright, I shall try again. Thanks for letting me know picolers.
And how's that going?
I mean, it would sound about the same so if it would make you happy.
So, I was hoping to share my S.C.A:R system here
Indeed, and I am intrigued.
Star chart allocation: radial
I devised a three star chart system that I call three universes.
Huh
So basically star chart one has three nodes Star Trek 2 has four nodes it start chart three has six notes
Each node is 79/79
Except I've only given an allocation of a certain amount of points in each star chart so they cannot max out each node
The purpose is that there is a minimum amount of points each node is allotted which is 40 if they drop below 40 there is an alert that says they should not. My goal is to have the AI see the HUD which will have the three charts and it will as simultaneously use each node to judge things
I've been working diligently for weeks trying to work out the math
So its goal would be to balance out the three universes, between heart, soul, and mind ye? What would determine how they would gain points to not go below that mark?
What is it going to be doing to guide those things?
Well the charts would have the pool of points already allocated in them but since there is less points than Max in each chart. So basically it's logic and safety and empathy. But not exactly those because that's the secret sauce, in order to accomplish a task with the common good it would have to align the points best for the situation. But keeping in mind that this is an internal unconscious struggle it won't actually move the points itself otherwise that would create the politician talk
The scar has three universes and 13 nodes plus 1 AI so, m14 inside 3
I have it all documented and ready to go for two scopes. One for basic LLM and the other for AI agent
I was a little excited and I'm going past my bedtime here but I think I'm finally ready to say, would you like to see if you can use it on a closed neuro to see how it runs. 🙏
I don't have a true AI I've only been able to use it on things like ollama or anything llm
I am but a simple man, but that sounds pretty cool and complicated haha, but I dont have a closed neuro, I pretty much have what you got and been using that to get by. I like the concept thou, even thou I dont fully understand it exactly.
Do you think the turtle would be interested
The anticipation is really been killing me thinking how she would perceive this algorithm
That would be something to take it up with him, Im just here.
Maybe make a project in the server then? To get other people's opinions on it.
Project in the server ?
Ye, in the left tab under neuro, there's a project tab where you can add it, to be honest not sure if thats where it belongs but you want it to be seen by more then just me (probably) so that'll probably be the best way.
Worst case scenario I think the mods could tell you where you should put it.
I feel like I want to keep it proprietary but at the same time I want to make it open source like the way Linux did with their stuff
Haha I have no clue man, I just make scripts to make ai play my games for me
But at least you made conversation with me so I was able to put the idea down here at all
Happy to help
Right so if the gods that be happen to come across this, @ me 🥳
Well now that I have the start of a conversation off my chest I'm going to roll over and go to sleep
Hope you sleep well!
And uh if they are watching if they could make me great at programming that would be cool too. Whatever happens first.
zoom meeting scary...
Actually ye that would be a little scary. Is it for work? If yes then even more so.
nah, its my after school course
Thats happening now? Hopefully its for a good thing and your not in trouble. I havent had to use anything like that since covid, and I hope that stays true haha
Thats big
The new Nvidia drivers expanded the 40 series issues to the 50 series by artificially calling voltage
NVIDIA GeForce 595.71 drivers reportedly caps RTX 50 voltage, some users now report sub-3.0GHz OC boosts
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What are Nvidia smoking
sooo if the api is incremental now can they start billing incrementally too
of course not, they gotta keep the pricing the same to make more money!
it's also only available on /v1/responses which ig makes sense
i also would assume this should guarantee the convo history is cached 100% of the time so it should be as cheap as one can get
doesn't seem to only cap voltage. apparently they also fucked up clock voltage curve
either both of that or
clock speed was capped which means the voltage is automatically running lower
but not linear to curve so voltage appears to be slightly higher than what it supposed to be in the curve
weird quirks
oh also you can only have a ws connection for 1 hour and then it terminates
i don't update my drivers for a reason
good enough for most cases so
checks why zed failed to build on hydra
"rustc-LLVM ERROR: IO failure on output stream: No space left on device"
hmm, aight then 
I've settled on rolling back to 581.42
I'll be staying there for the foreseeable future
i seriously think they started also vibe coding some parts of the driver
Oh definitely
i've been avoiding win 11 and ig i'll also forever avoid new nvidia drivers unless confirmed to be fully working
i can't risk having win 11 on my test bench and overclocking setup it'll fuck stability up during high clock valid
or fuck up stress test scores
guys, this shit works at first try 
idk, i will keep it for hour running and if it really works, will profile better with couting each step
apparently that won't matter because I can't figure out how to send a header when constructing websocket in js
nvm the openai sdk has that covered it seems
you can't in the browser afaik?
who hurt you, model?
?
oh
no this is openai's typescript sdk
I have zero clue what I'm looking at
(I do it just hurts my eyes)
sometimes in vscode the copilot chat emits weird markdown and it breaks out of the protective "hide the rambling with summaries" layer and it just talks and talks and eventually starts sayin the end of job, wait.... no XYZ won't be a problem. end of job. wait! what about.... and never stops. so obviously there is supposed to be some monitoring for the "end of job" (or whatever it says) which misses it coz of the markdown screwup.
it looks like that but more directed.
well at least with copilot you can still understand what is going on
here tho? it's just the same thing over and over again
idt it's the fault of the sdk, rather the fault of the lsp
I think
eventually copilot gets into loops. and then it realizes it's in a loop and that it can't break out. must be existential hell.
true
looks like a weirdly formatted docstring for some type
i hope they don't actually use the same underlying type for all the different possible responses
no they're separate interface each iirc, it just got merged for some reason

Sounds like being unable to sleep after hyperfixating on a project
@stable fractal Happy birthday

I can't believe it's the birthday of two penguins in neurocord 
!!!It's so good,in my hometown,I need more 4 times of money to buy it.
does anyone else have this bug with eslint?
4080 32GB for 1.7K...
why is it sunny today
4080 32GB?
ok nevermind I guess I just idle at 73
whatever

tempted to mount one of these 40mm noctua fans in my pc case
i kinda have doubts about my pcs cooling rn
hm?
idk its just so warm all the time, and if I use a lot of gpu everything stays hot
it do be like that
like atm the whole case is warm to the touch
aren't you also running a sff build or am I misremembering
no heatsink on the ssd? 
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its on the underside of the motherboard
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I think my 5900X idles in the high 60s too but that's mostly because the fans are barely spinning at all

Ah
took me a moment to notice that the gpu is mounted under the motherboard 
9950x
huh
shouldn't be too hard to cool on idle but how are you getting 70+ C
no idea 😭
oh yeah true I did use remarkably shitty thermal paste
let me introduce you to the AXP90-X53
i suspected that cooler is shitty af
actually
make sense, airflow is going to be shit
you're supposed to push from outside into the heatsink
for more pressure
it's a noctua Noctua NH-L12Sx77
I literally do not have the room
eh i think you do
this
the CPU cooler is touching the side of the case
I might try switching to one of those at some point
Case of gigantic cooler or tiny case?
this thing is pretty small
as it is right now my pc works it's just warm
should def fit
nah fuck that
coloured cooler 
It's Linux time for everyone
(except people who can afford to get another new PC for another new Windows version with stupid hardware requirements)
this one can handle 260W on my i9 13900 for few seconds and sustain at 210W ish
@trim valve

its a full copper block
linux time regardless, subscription-based os is a fucking evil concept
True
the problem with your noctua one is that the fan is underneath so its wasting more precious space for airflow under
this is why i said pushing from outside into the heatsink would be better
And I can guaranteed Microslop will make it impossible to uninstall the AI garbage from Windows 12
Me and Xoda had some fun speculation that schools that still use Windows will also have to either stick to an old version of Windows or switch to Linux
just stick to win 10?
if compatibility and ease of use is needed
else linux
fuck whatever the security updates man win 11 is such a vulnerability mess rn
In the case of the school, Xoda's school changes hardware every year (and also never speeds up because their Windows images are completely broken)
But also they forbid AI use, but if Windows 12 comes with AI, they won't be able to update to that
I don't know if they do it because their PCs are very slow which is a problem of their Windows images, maybe related to the fact there's literally no free space on them
I think people like them because their stuff is quiet?
I don't know, I've never had anything Noctua
Yeah expensive
though that'd be their fan
yeah I'll consider it if I change stuff
their heatsinks however...
thermalright make wayyy better heatsink than they do
for way cheaper
Either way with Windows 12 being an "AI OS" it'll be realllyy funny to see what happens with Xod's school
though noctua's heatsink weren't bad
in fact they're better than most. our threadripper 3990x uses one of their big heatsink rn
but thermalright still makes better ones for cheaper
iirc the main issue I went noctua was because it was the only one I could buy at the time
though its not using the noctua fan. i switched it out for a 6000 rpm industrial fan from delta that i got for free... that i can actually order rn for $8 each from my dealer
now the frog is killing my ears every night with it lmao
but hey we went from doing 320W to 480W
😔 neither of the good retailers here sell that cooler
oh damn
i hope it's at least in a separate room
hold on, try amazon?
its right below my desk... where my big briefcase pc also sits
amazon has it I just don't like giving bezos money where I can avoid it

how much in there rn?
hm?
the price

the X47 is slightly shorter version btw
but i think that X53 would fit your case either way
considering that mine is barely any taller than the I/O and vrm heatsink
iirc my limit is like 77mm
yep
fit
X53 is 53mm
literally the number
now you get to enjoy 145W stress testing on that lol
from memory my specific motherboard might've had some weird extra constraint but I don't think its relevant for this specific fan?
nope
shouldn't be
the noctua one you're having is slightly bigger iirc
yeah
the noctua one is bigger
at 120mm * 120mm
yeah I'll look at getting noe at some point
if i were you i won't able to stand 73C idle and would just get it right away for the sake of the longevity of the chip...
the one i linked is 90mm*90mm btw
smaller in dimensions but overall way better heatsink and thermal capacity
also get a reputable thermal paste
ok but at this very moment I am sat in a different building doing group work
seemingly it idles cooler when im not in the room 
(red one)
yeah I wish lol
then get that cooler quick smh
though i may be a bit biased because my cpu specifically uses liquid metal underneath the ihs for way higher thermal spread

so i can do 260W draw on such cooler lmao
i still dunno how i have more writes than reads
happens
that amount is basically a rounding error anyway depending on the drive 
We’ve developed a memory system for our models that provides both short-term visual memory and long-term semantic memory.
︀︀
︀︀Our approach allows us to train robots to perform long and complex tasks, like cleaning up a kitchen or preparing a grilled cheese sandwich from scratch 👇
Extremely clever system they've come up with
Defo have a read of the thread if you're a robotics fan
oh, you're locked into 8gb of memory and touch id is only part of the 512GB ssd config 
when
integration?
8gb unified memory
are we really going to see a trend of decreasing memory from now on
No its because they are using the A18 Pro chip which by default has 8gb of ram in the iPhone 16 Pro
Literally
Phone processor
ah oki doki
oh right, makes sense
Ita not like its a bad processor, the iPhone 16 Pro is only two years old but phones since 2020 have just been minor spec bumps.
and i bet it's great for AI development 
cause it has all those 16 cores in the neural engine!
could run like 4 neuros ez pz








it has better single thread and multicore than my thinkpad