programming

[glass jetty]

their NN design isnt ready

they dont even know what they will use xD

[azure lynx]

do you mean "this" or "quantizations of this"? coz that's a little too big for what (most) people have at home.

[glass jetty]

are you into ai?

[sick owl]

Quantization naturally, FP16 isn't exactly the norm for on-device inference

[rigid snow]

27b is up there for sure but not thaaaat big

[azure lynx]

little bit. i run some models.

[sick owl]

This fits on a 4090, 3090, 5090 or 7900XTX at Q6

[glass jetty]

out of everything i tried - best performance i got is cloude 4.6 thinking
it actually solves problems, not only give direction to search for
is it actually best we have now?

it have reasonable thinking
it write something and then say that it is wrong, and accept it

[sick owl]

Its the best coding/STEM model we have, and Gemini 3.1 Pro is the best generalist

[azure lynx]

i'm curious to see the next gemma

[glass jetty]

can it answer bread question?

[sick owl]

[azure lynx]

it just implemented an SVG avatar for my agent which lipsyncs to the audio file with visemes.
that was a broad question.

[glass jetty]

ah it wasnt bread
2024 blog post (russian)

[azure lynx]

bread question is: how did neuro think when she was bread?
other than that, i don't know bread question.

[fickle rain]

The issue is that Opus costs a bunch

I find GPT 5.3 pricing more agreeable

[azure lynx]

Opus is probably really good, but it costs more per query than Gemini 3.1

[glass jetty]

idk, i have it for free

i not use ide solutions or anything so idk about rate limiting, but (lm)arena,ai offer them for free

[rigid snow]

i mean no one takes these models seriously

[glass jetty]

they was promoted as russian, but actually just translation wrappers

[fickle rain]

Also has higher rate limits

[glass jetty]

all lm still bad at code generation

[rigid snow]

small yandexgpt models are just fine for what they are (8b-ish?), everything else is just bad
why would they be translation wrappers when learning a language is like the easiest thing for an llm

[glass jetty]

have you read actual note (post)?

[rigid snow]

the blog post?

[glass jetty]

ye

[azure lynx]

not true. like i said: Gemini wrote me an animated avatar for my agent which is actually not terrible. twice. Once using ASCII art, and a second time using SVGs.
and the code was readable.

[rigid snow]

i have yeah хлопок (cotton) / хлопок (clap). i think it just indicates exactly what the post says, a lack of intelligence, not that it doesn't know the difference

[azure lynx]

and because of the requests, i'm pretty sure nobody has done what I asked before. so it wasn't just copied.

[rigid snow]

like, if you told it to translate it in context, it 100% would just fine

[glass jetty]

i also got working script for lua, that says nothing, they are still horrible
while sanity checking current code, cloude for some reasons created example that looks like this

[rigid snow]

learning a language is like the easiest thing for an llm
you can finetune a language into an llm pretty easily

[azure lynx]

it really depends on how you ask it.

[rigid snow]

especially considering how much of the internet is in russian

it's the latter

i know

that;s the point

[sick owl]

The Yandex models are jokes honestly, go for Qwen if you want the best Russian performance

[rigid snow]

aren't they proprietary anyway

[sick owl]

Or Mistral if you want less guardrails

[azure lynx]

Does it do the classic "The vodka was good but the meat was rotten?" (The spirit was willing but the flesh was weak)

[glass jetty]

i havent asked
it just generated
and it cant work in any way
starting on that there literally no way to obtain coro_handler, ending with actual function being unused

nice, ds bugged

[rigid snow]

i'd say go for anything for "russian performance" whatever that means, the only llms that would fuck up languages that aren't english are gpt-3.5-turbo era

[azure lynx]

if you didn't ask for anything and it generated garbage, i'm not surprised it doesn't do what you want.

[glass jetty]

lul

[rigid snow]

that's why "prompt engineer" is a real job

friend saw an "ai vibecoder" position yesterday

[azure lynx]

i could do that. i'd have to leave some of my brain at home, but... ;]

[rigid snow]

tbf the pay listed is below minimum wage

but yeah

[glass jetty]

guys, for real, how can i find job online now? linked in seems like crap, havent tried to write directly to any HR tho...
-# i got card, i had personal vacation, now i want to look forward in my life

[rigid snow]

linkedin is for you to network

not to look for a job neccessarily

[azure lynx]

networking is the way i found jobs. people i knew told me about jobs where they worked or put my name forward

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mihono-bourbon-uma-musume-gif-27600320

[opaque wharf]

This

[rigid snow]

nepotism

[opaque sigil]

i wonder how much of that is due to the fact that c++ coroutines are one of the more obscure features that few people even use so naturally there would be far less training data on it

[azure lynx]

i definitely got one job because the boss knew me from a previous job.

[sage crag]

the coro in coro_t stands for corazon and not coroutine

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154436961277313126.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=evilSlam&lossless=true

[rigid snow]

that reminds me i actually have to answer someone pretty important that might get me a cool job like right now but i'm here instead

[azure lynx]

i prefer copoutine. mmm

[glass jetty]

yeah like... i thought that coroutine handle destroy itself always if you use trait, that it create owning shared_ptr-like variant
but turns out that it just call destroy if suspend_never
(tho i only had to do this instead of clearing stack)

[opaque sigil]

the coroutine api is also an absolute clusterfuck

so there's that i guess

[glass jetty]

how

discord

 while(not stack_.empty()){ // fix memory leak with correct destruction
                stack_.top().destroy();
                stack_.pop();
            }

[rigid snow]

what isn't a clusterfuck about cpp

[opaque wharf]

Magic

[opaque sigil]

there are levels to the madness

[glass jetty]

nah, api is nice to use

[azure lynx]

the only reason i used it: std::hash

[glass jetty]

it just poorly documented

[opaque wharf]

The syndrome is kicking in

[glass jetty]

man, i just created software stack and i have coroutines that perform sync+preemptive task without state machine on same thread as realtime performance task
so i have natural priority + preemption just by using co_await co_yield

[opaque sigil]

that's the big barrier for agents, and i guess humans

[sick owl]

Bear in mind as well that they advertise these models as well suited down to q4 quantization

Qwen (@Alibaba_Qwen)

The Qwen3.5 series maintains near-lossless accuracy under 4-bit weight and KV cache quantization.

In terms of long-context efficiency:

Qwen3.5-27B supports 800K+ context length
Qwen3.5-35B-A3B exceeds 1M context on consumer-grade GPUs with 32GB VRAM
Qwen3.5-122B-A10B supports

X · Feb 25, 2026, 3:38 AM

[glass jetty]

just read compiler code, and you'll figure out what it to

[sick owl]

Holy AI slop replies

"We’re entering the era where model design is constrained more by IO than FLOPs"

Bro, that's the era we've been in since llama dropped

[azure lynx]

Qwen is on my list of models for when i get a 2nd GPU/new machine.

[opaque wharf]

But we as a human can at least do test and infer from result

[opaque sigil]

so can they with a decent harness tbf

in theory at least

[glass jetty]

bet that ai cannot write anything similar just by description what you want, tho...
https://godbolt.org/z/8MKWMPETc

[azure lynx]

gemini ran some tests yesterday when planning code changes to determine undocumented behavior of an API

[glass flower]

yep thats ai. not just the em-dash but also the classic "it isn't just - its that"

[glass jetty]

i know that there some key flags
but i usually just read something, and notice that it is ai, only if it feels off

i also cant quickly differ ai from human art

[glass flower]

its fairly easy to tell nowadays if something is written by AI because all of them are just not how humans talk

[glass jetty]

i cant

[glass flower]

art is harder but text in my opinion hasn't really evolved atleast in the spammy way its used like in replies or comments

[azure lynx]

(neurodivergent not AI)

[sage crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1425866152424505394.png?size=160&name=ElvynSerius&lossless=true

[glass jetty]

tho here i noticed it on curious part, that feels really off human

(read img before solid's text to it)

[sick owl]

But not yet, since apparently there's a bug with it in llama.cpp

[midnight sigil]

also changing refresh rate will too, I guess

[glass jetty]

looks quite dead

[azure lynx]

at least nobody can read it over your shoulder so it's safe to use at a cafe.....
unfortunately you can't read it either but that's the price you pay for privacy.

[midnight sigil]

[sick owl]

Buzz online is that the 35B MoE is better despite benching worse, but I'll reserve judgement on account of the whole bug thing

I will say I've gone off unsloth quants recently, I couldn't tell you why but Bartowski's releases just seem more stable

Might compare for this release once they fix the 27B model

Ubergarm releases are best but naturally take a while ^

[mighty thorn]

Ubergarm?

[sick owl]

The guy who puts out all the ik_llama.cpp quants

[queen ginkgo]

Hello!

yeah I know i'm weird for replying to the pings I get lol

[sick owl]

Nvidia have actually ruined benchmarks

Wtf is this

[true hemlock]

resolutions being put together

[young plover]

DLAA and no FG or gtfo 🫸

[finite ledge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1281227354437320769/1281227354932379751/evilneuro_shake.gif

[azure lynx]

the gif does nothave DLAA. 3/5

[rigid snow]

remember when everyone was shitting on dlss like even harder than what the current sentiment around fg is

yeah it got better for sure but so will fg

just you wait

[true hemlock]

am i supposed to dlss + fg my compute workload

[azure lynx]

interpolation works great... for certain tasks.

[rigid snow]

yeah you should ai generate your ballistic missile trajectory

using an image gen model (important, will not work otherwise)

[azure lynx]

"Alexa, calculate trajectory for enemy position!" "I drew a fluffy puppy."

[rigid snow]

i'm memeing but can't current models generate the graphs they need with the llm part and feed that as input to the image gen step

like don't they already do that

[azure lynx]

i've seen AI graphs before but they were laughable

[rigid snow]

i would test but they do be expensive i'm not spending 20 cents per image

or whatever nano banana pro is

[true hemlock]

imagine using diffusion to generate graph line

[opaque sigil]

gemini 3.1 pro can probably do a decent job given how hard they pushed it towards generating svgs

[azure lynx]

you could get it to do a deep research project and produce a graph showing SOMETHING vs SOMETHING_ELSE just using a free account.
(you need to specify the SOMETHING and SOMETHING_ELSE though)

oh god. gemini's got "create music" now too. ;[

[fiery anchor]

please don't replace me, thank you.

[azure lynx]

https://gemini.google.com/share/7d44ddbdd146
I'm so sorry.

i wrote it some punk lyrics and it did about what I thought it would do, except it ruined the ending.
yeah, it sucks. that's 30 seconds i won't get back.

[rigid snow]

it's such a stupid prog it chose lmao

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mihono-bourbon-uma-musume-gif-27600320

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-uma-im-no-ears-im-all-ears-horse-gif-4308252428337868305

[azure lynx]

the clouds are a bit, but yeah.

"turn on her ears' sky camouflage"

[opaque wharf]

Btw, what did you guys use LLM for?

Entertainment?

Actually, lemme make a poll

[opaque sigil]

annoying but straightforward things i don't feel like doing myself

[azure lynx]

what do i use LLMs to help code? or what am i coding that uses an LLM?
ok.

i guess i did just use it for entertainment but that was also a "what does this feature do and how does it work compared to other similar features elsewhere" test with the music.

it would be nice if there was a music generator which produced something i could load in a DAW, with all the track split out.
then i could redo all the bad parts.

[willow hinge]

Therapy of course like a normal person

[opaque wharf]

I use LLM for entertainment like stardew valley mod

[willow hinge]

For legal reasons this is a joke. AI is not a good therapist. They are programmed to be suck ups

[opaque wharf]

Also, I wish there is a mod that provides arbitrary text input to chat with NPC in stardew valley to further extend the LLM entertainment value lol

[azure lynx]

so you can progress more than 5 hearts?

[opaque wharf]

Nah, like make the NPC can be spoken to more than once/twice

[tender river]

i use it for coding but i never use llm code because its so bad, does that count

[azure lynx]

when i was off work for a month i watched a streamer play stardew valley with a mod so she could marry anyone.

[opaque wharf]

Hmm, I don't think that counts. I use it for boilerplates for example. So it does get used

Because I am too lazy to write a proper tooling

[sage crag]

awa

[opaque wharf]

Like defining a bunch of sql tables and their relationship for example. If I provide it a good enough prompt, some LLM is actually helpful and I only need to change like maybe 5% of the column name

[tender river]

llm writing annoy me so much

also human writing when sound like llm

[azure lynx]

i've been giving LLMs more and more to write, and with Gemini 3.1 Pro (Preview) as the LLM, copilot has been knocking them out of the park for anything i specified well.
the latest patch i asked for had 4 distinct parts (i had intended only to do one) but it has a checklist functionality that it used to keep track of what it was doing and what the plan was. and it asked useful questions.
and the code worked first (or at worst in the last few days second) try.
i've made maybe 10 changes in 1000 lines.

[tender river]

this writing -> sound like llm

[opaque wharf]

Some people are so socially inept that they copy and paste chat between LLM and their conversation partner. Like, I know a guy who does that irl to speak with his client

[fast pagoda]

https://gigaio.com/products/fabrex-system-overview/

>Latency from system memory of one server to system memory of any other is less than 200ns

resources, such as accelerators including GPUs, DPUs,
TPUs, FPGAs and SoCs or storage devices, such as NVMe,
PCIe native storage, and other I/O resources connected to
compute nodes. In addition to device-to-node, FabreX is
unique in enabling node-to-node and device-to-device
communication all across the same high performance PCIe
memory fabric. FabreX can span multiple servers and
multiple racks to scale up single-server systems and scale
out multi-server systems, all unified via the FabreX
software.```

can someone loan me like a million dollars (give or take a couple milly)

[tender river]

sure

i can loan you -$1m

[fast pagoda]

that's the wrong direction of million :(

[opaque wharf]

Rookie mistake using int instead of uint

[sage crag]

i can loan you $1im

[azure lynx]

you did say give OR take

[fast pagoda]

mfw too permissive as always

[sage crag]

ALSO -$1im

[azure lynx]

a conjugate pair of millions

[opaque wharf]

How much is $1j?

[fast pagoda]

1 iMillion

[azure lynx]

roughly the same

[fast pagoda]

1 jillion

[opaque wharf]

i is confusing, we use j in this house

[sage crag]

engineers

[olive sable]

hi

[fast pagoda]

lil wayne is an engineer

[sage crag]

i for iota, for imaginary

not j for jota and jmaginary

[azure lynx]

"i AM confusing."

[opaque wharf]

Jut je jusually juse jenglish jon jother jlace

[fast pagoda]

imaginary dollars are what openAI runs on

so they must be useful somehow

[olive sable]

jujutsu kaisen is good, i agree

[fast pagoda]

j0seph j0estar

[hard kettle]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUMdQ9oiTOk/?igsh=MWl2enYyejZpbnZlOQ==

james.uzumaki_

When you finally unlock jutsu

Likes

511784

Instagram

[opaque wharf]

Believe it or not, I have not watched it

[olive sable]

thats crazy

[hard kettle]

Cool project lmao

[sage crag]

bbbbbasis vector

[hard kettle]

I don't remember who in vc did the hand recogniting thingy

[olive sable]

have you ever seen a guy with 20 fingers, and were like, lemme eat one?
thats like 50% of the plot

[opaque wharf]

[fast pagoda]

this had some sort of telemetry on it that is telling me some account named cecilia shared it with me, idk if that's or what but just advising

[sage crag]

$1ɛm

[opaque wharf]

Is that base64url encoded?

[opaque wharf]

$1€m

[sage crag]

nrr

[opaque wharf]

Path of least resistance

[sage crag]

ɛ ≠ 0, ɛ² = 0

dual

[opaque wharf]

Also, $1m is 1 milli dollar

[azure lynx]

you can take the stuff after the ? off from the instagram link and it's gets rid of the tracking part. (all they know is you saw the content, not how you got there)

[tender river]

latin epsilon

[sage crag]

Ɛ

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/marikiplier-e-meme-lord-farquaad-gif-22138504

[tender river]

neuro epsilon

[fast pagoda]

i was more concerned that it tells you who shared it with you so if you didnt want to show someone your own account when posting an ig link you'd have to remove it

[azure lynx]

$ echo MWl2enYyejZpbnZlOQ== | base64 -d | xxd
00000000: 3169 767a 7632 7a36 696e 7665 39         1ivzv2z6inve9

looks like it?

[fast pagoda]

so idk if they just told me what their ig is basically by visiting the link lol

[sage crag]

my favourite thing when i encountered dual numbers for the first time was defining e^ɛ as 1 + ɛ via intuition, and then proving that it was true from only this statement

[opaque wharf]

TIL about base64 utils

[azure lynx]

used to be a hacker. ;]

[fast pagoda]

yeah Instagram Share Hash is what it's called and it does leak your instagram to the person you share the link with

sheesh

[sage crag]

actually it relies on another informal axiom, that you can reliably swap lim(x->0)f(x) with f(ɛ) to get a result in the same form (in terms of epsilon)

[fast pagoda]

that's the igsh obv

[opaque wharf]

What's the difference between informal axiom and a formal one? The suit?

[sage crag]

well, not for e^ɛ itself, but for arbitrary e^(aɛ + b) where a, b, are real, its required

[true hemlock]

LOOK AT WHAT THE FUCK I JUST STRUCK (price in AUD)

AIN'T NO FUCKING WAY

[sage crag]

formal axiom would be defined in a way where i didnt think about it for 20 seconds

[azure lynx]

like you can move epsilon some way and it doesn't change it much, but it does change it usefully

[sage crag]

for e^ɛ you can use the maclaurin series for exp and pull out the correct value

without any limits required

[fast pagoda]

god i miss when i would've considered this a bad deal

[sage crag]

you can prove it over an arbitrary input with the limit form for exp

[true hemlock]

same

[fast pagoda]

havent looked at the chart of despair in a while. 64g ddr5

[sage crag]

and then you can use it to prove the derivative of e^x is e^x in a much simpler way than the method from first principles

[tender river]

i havent used dual numbers but i saw a gjs talk where he mentioned modifying a lisp interpreter to automatically differentiate all expressions using dual numbers

[azure lynx]

good news! It's going up less fast!

[fast pagoda]

it's holding steady at <total nightmare> price!

[azure lynx]

that's coz the entry fields for price must only accept 999.99 and then you have to hack it

[fast pagoda]

[sage crag]

(e^(x + ɛ) - e^x)/ɛ is the derivative of e^x via the first principle of calculus and the substitution of ɛ into the limit

[azure lynx]

is that central limit theorem?

[opaque wharf]

No

[azure lynx]

like looking at anything which expands out with epsilon, i just 0 that and put what's left into like mathematica or wolfram alpha

it usually means there is an error when i see it, not an exploration for calculus reasons

[opaque wharf]

Central limit theorem is about probability density function that converge to normal distribution

[sage crag]

= (e^x)(e^ɛ - 1)/ɛ
e^ɛ = 1 + ɛ
= (e^x)(ɛ + 1 - 1)/ɛ
= e^x

[azure lynx]

cool. i probably learned it on youtube.

as in: didn't learn it

[sage crag]

if you look at the standard proof for the derivative of e^x, its a lot longer

well, in truth, you can do this same proof with limits too

ɛ doesnt really enable anything except breaking division and multiplication on zero

but its a fun concept

and also useful for computer differentiation

take a look at forward mode differentiation on wikipedia

[tender river]

AD is a fun application of metaprogramming

[sage crag]

wrr

[azure lynx]

epsilon in the real world is because of rounding errors mostly. ignore it when calculating, don't when comparing.

double a,b;
...
if(a==b) { abort("this never happens. well, hardly ever really."); }
}```
stuff

[sage crag]

i wrote a wrapper for python functions that does AD using dual numbers, and supports imaginary numbers

and hooked it up to some graphs on matplotlib

theyre pretty interesting

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

actually i wrote some desmos implementations of dual number functions too, but they were a bit crumbly because i had to use a sentinel value for ɛ

i derived a lot of results for functions of aɛ + b

including log_x(aɛ+b), log_(aɛ+b)(x), (aɛ+b)^x, x^(aɛ+b), and more

[tender river]

sentinel as in
desmos doesnt support symbolic computation so you had to pack two numbers into one?

[sage crag]

mhm

i replaced i with ɛ for convenient graphing

though, you can do operations directly on tuples of up to 3 numbers

[sage crag]

naturally this means you can find the derivative of functions like ln(x) trivially

also of trig, inverse trig, and hyperbolic trig

i spent a long time trying to define the integral in terms of ɛ but never thought of a way, i couldnt be bothered googling it

ɛ plays nicely with complex numbers too

you just treat it like a real value

funnily, division by (a+bɛ) probably caused me the most trouble

since division by ɛ is only valid when the numerator is a multiple of ɛ (including zero)

oh ɛ can also be used to justify small angle approximations of trig functions

i.e. sin(x) where x is small, is equivalent to sin(kɛ), where k is real

then using any valid numeric form of sin, you can make a small angle approximation

[tender river]

wouldnt you just use this property

[sage crag]

yes, i did

but

i had to derive all of these properties myself

there are more ways to do it

but that one works

[sage crag]

the problem is the different methods have different domains

[true hemlock]

fucking Epsilons

[sage crag]

[azure lynx]

from brave new world?

[sage crag]

the simplest one is the exponential form

[azure lynx]

The definition of an Epsilon in Brave New World is a member of the lowest caste who performs the most menial of tasks and lacks intellectual capacity.

[sage crag]

sin(kɛ) = (e^kiɛ - e^-kiɛ)/2i
= (1+ kiɛ - (1 - kiɛ))/2i
= 2kiɛ/2i = kɛ

pretty much

[fast pagoda]

holy math, someone tuned her to opencourseware lectures

[sage crag]

nrr just trivial substitution

[true hemlock]

honestly im content of watching this going on

[azure lynx]

that looks like if algebra learned greek, so probably.

[fast pagoda]

did this all arise from imaginary dollars

i was eating an empanada

[sage crag]

sin(x) = (e^ix - e^-ix)/2i

e^(a + bɛ)
= (e^a)(e^bɛ)
= (e^a)(1 + bɛ)

from these two

[azure lynx]

conjugate pair of imaginary millions.

[sage crag]

all you need

[fast pagoda]

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/comfy-karen-rolling-on-the-floor-happy-gif-14251269

[tender river]

fancy
i havent done enough math to be used to using imaginary numbers for trig

[sage crag]

good opportunity to derive from trig form of e^xi

via

j

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1456314197993459712/SPOILER_NeuroNewYearCute5.gif

[tender river]

[sage crag]

can also be used to prove derivative of sin

[true hemlock]

Epsilon is always a wild one
its a variable representing number so small you could consider it as 0 but its more like something really really close to 0
just like a number that is technically infinity but isn't and just really "close to" infinity

honestly Epsilon and Infinity is similar in that way i guess in a sense that 1/x for x being a number really "close to" infinity is Epsilon

[olive sable]

oh god, j has made it appearance once again in #programming
evacuate all braincells

[sage crag]

can be used for arbitrary derivative proofs of functions that can be defined in elementary algebraic functions

including ones that are written in limit, sum, or product notation

[azure lynx]

e^itheta = perfect.

[sage crag]

þ

[azure lynx]

i learned cos and sin when i was 9 because it meant i could draw circles on the computer.

[true hemlock]

i am dentge in calc ig

[sage crag]

d/dx sin(x) = (sin(x) - sin(x + ɛ))/ɛ

((e^xi - e^-xi)/2i - (e^(x + ɛ)i - e^-(x + ɛ)i)/2i)/ɛ
= i dont want to keep typing this on my phone

but if you simplify and extract like terms its very easy

just a bit of crunching

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1315875062565572658.webp?size=48

[sage crag]

= ((e^xi - e^-xi)/2i - (e^(x + ɛ)i - e^-(x + ɛ)i)/2i)/ɛ
= ((e^xi - e^-xi)/2i - ((e^xi)(1 + ɛ) - (e^-xi)(1 + ɛ)/2i)/ɛ
= ((e^xi - e^-xi)/2i - ((e^ix)(1 + ɛ) - (e^-ix)(1 + ɛ)/2i)/ɛ
= ((e^xi - e^-xi)(1 - (1 + ɛ))/2i)/ɛ
= -(e^xi - e^-xi)/2i

uuu

that's not quite right

phone maths

impossible to read

anyway derivative of sin is NOT -sin

it -cos

so me dentge

[tender river]

is it not +cos

[sage crag]

uuh

yes

https://tenor.com/view/mihono-bourbon-uma-musume-gif-27600320

how did i find the derivative of cos using the derivative of sin

idot

this type of thing wants a pen and paper

with paper it takes no time and is much easier

im a bit out of practice though

[opaque wharf]

Brute force it like ye olden days mathematician did

Make a table of log

[tender river]

no copy paste on paper

[opaque wharf]

Carbon copy

[sage crag]

copy paste called

light table

and trace

[opaque wharf]

Easier to slip a carbon paper and trace since light table would need electricity/light source

[azure lynx]

copy and paste = take a photo and cut out the content and paste it

with glue

[opaque wharf]

That's cut and paste

[azure lynx]

no... there is a copy first

[opaque wharf]

And it's photoshop not word document

That's raster, not vector

[azure lynx]

photoshop has paths which are vectors... i think (i have never used paths.)

i'm thinking Lady Away of Wrr probably likes math channels like "Another Roof" and "Mathologer" that do proofs of stuff.
Another Roof has made videos on "What IS a nuber As Explained by a Mathematician", "How to Count", "Defining Every Number Ever", "How To Add" .
then he did some combinatorics and recently did a 2h42m video on the new NIST encryption standards tournament process. (including describing how these post quantum crypto work).
quite good.

and he just did one about using the determinant to count spanning trees.

(do not judge them based on how bad my skills are ;] )

[quick condor]

That moment when you realize that you have gone beyond normal hoby level fine tuning and are precomputing teacher soft logits then slamming 3 Gpus with a 3x ddp qlora training run

[fiery anchor]

What's really mind blowing is that even having a computer, let alone one with a gpu, is hobbyist stuff. The broad general public does not have that in thier lives at home.

[jaunty wolf]

Does anyone have data on the neuro lamp on how it works

[tender river]

tuya

if you just want to hook it up to something like home assistant you can use tuya integration

if you want to unofficially sync something to neuros lava lamp you wont really be able to do it unless you own a lava lamp and want to figure out how to extract the auth keys and use tuya sdk to get what you need

[jaunty wolf]

I'm trying to build a virtual clone

[tender river]

mhm you wont be able to reuse any of that

your best bet is creating some system for finding the lava lamp on the live video feed and extracting the color from the video

[opaque sigil]

https://github.com/alyfrillnya/NeuroSync someone made this a while back, could be useful as inspiration

[tender river]

ye can probably be used as is

[unkempt citrus]

Still WIP from memory

cos never did get the API keys or endpoints or anything

[azure lynx]

it it's a hack which reads the screen from the video and gets the max color from a region and uses that as the color

it uses OpenCV to read the remote video URL and then parses the frames

maybe you could set up a fake server to steal the credentials? or have IoT devices suddenly learned how to check certificates properly in the last 2 years?

[tender river]

you'd need an actual lamp for that

also it wont contact the servers directly

[azure lynx]

yeah. someone with the lamp would need to know python. slim chance.

[tender river]

it does it through your phone

[azure lynx]

if it's through your phone then you can route it to anywhere

just lie

or listen on the phone

[tender river]

i dont know what you mean by that

anyway as i mentioned it uses tuya

uses your lamp's hardware key to authorize with tuya servers

[unkempt citrus]

If someone had a spare lamp you could also splice the cables and read the input and upload it to a pubsub server

[tender river]

gets lava lamp color from tuya servers

sends it back to lava lamp

[fast pagoda]

porting something to windows and ran it on wine

something doesnt seem right about that read throughput to me

[hollow matrix]

I found a message from 2023 where vedal is disagreeing with shiro's amazing take

[fast pagoda]

vedal used to be capable of sending messages in discord

[fickle rain]

Magic

[opaque sigil]

this is how you find out your drive is dying

[fast pagoda]

i have the fastest 980 pro in the world apparently

[opaque sigil]

oh there's an extra 0

i can't read

[fast pagoda]

we out here 31 gbps read

GB

gen6 drive preview

[opaque sigil]

can't wait for liquid cooled storage servers

[jaunty wolf]

Damm that's smart

[fast pagoda]

i JUST changed this

truly, compilers are magic

REALLY optimized that nvme section

[opaque sigil]

me when i delete the code to make it faster

[jaunty wolf]

My idea is since it uses ble provision protocol to connect the the app and sends the API key over

I just wish to get the API key that way and act like one lamp

Like official app controllable

[opaque sigil]

getting compilers to NOT delete benchmark code is a struggle in itself sometimes

[unkempt citrus]

You would still need the endpoints no?

[jaunty wolf]

This is why I ask if someone reverse engineered it before

Mostly all on GitHub is the tuya part

No one has the app provision part

[azure lynx]

https://github.com/IceBotYT/ha-neuro-lamp ?

[tender river]

many people have

its not really hard but you wont get anything from that

unless you have a lamp yourself

and have enough knowledge to extract its credentials

and are willing to reimplement the parts that use tuya sdk

[jaunty wolf]

That only covers the tuya

[jaunty wolf]

Guess I'm out of luck?
Neuro merch store doesn't have the lamp listed anymore

[azure lynx]

has anyone dumped the app?

[tender river]

ye

[tender river]

theres nothing other than tuya

[jaunty wolf]

What about the stream link?

I thought by default all lamp has a persistent wss to Vedal's server?

[tender river]

no

tuya servers

not vedal server

[jaunty wolf]

Then how vedal send the color on stream changes

[tender river]

he sends it to tuya servers

[jaunty wolf]

That simplify my job

But I still need to find the API key that vedal put in each lamp to associate it with each user on tuya right?

[sage crag]

bzzzt bzzt

[azure lynx]

you need one.

[sage crag]

zap

[tender river]

no, each lamp has a separate key

[sage crag]

each lamp have single physical key

for entry

key called

hammer

[azure lynx]

physical keys are not affected by quantum hacks.

[sage crag]

False!

[jaunty wolf]

How hard is it to find someone willing on this server to record the whole ble interaction between the app and lamp and all the tuya commands and response

[azure lynx]

they're too big

[sage crag]

my physical key is 32 electrons in a precise arrangement

[azure lynx]

mine is a lump of copper with some grooves and angles

[sage crag]

[tender river]

you wont find anyone because you need lots of technical skills for that and if someone with that kind of skills wanted to do it theyd have done it already

i wanted to do it but they couldnt ship lava lamps to russia

[tender river]

so

[sage crag]

cat banned from discord

@real sierra if you see this cat you must ban it

[azure lynx]

is that cat years?

[sage crag]

no i

t human years

[tender river]

jerma cat ban

hit

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

wobbly

[azure lynx]

its a cool colored cat. phantom-cat of the opera.

[sage crag]

website stupid

[real sierra]

what website

[sage crag]

the website

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/cosmic-princess-kaguya-yachiyo-cosmic-princess-kaguya-yachiyo-jumping-fast-gif-8114031472651899845

[sage crag]

shr

[real sierra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1468891977646080061/1468891978086355078/efdcbc24214fbc24.gif

[sage crag]

did you know butterflies drink blood

and sweat

and some butterflies have a wingspan greater than 20cm

larger than some birds

[opaque sigil]

web.site on sale for $625k

what a steal

[jaunty wolf]

I like punycode domains

[real sierra]

[opaque sigil]

practically free

[sage crag]

i also have a wingspan larger than some birds

[real sierra]

pet butterfly

[sage crag]

scary

butterfly swarm

mug

[jaunty wolf]

Do you know domains can contain non ABC and symbols

[sage crag]

ye, they can also include

DEF

[jaunty wolf]

大好き.dev is a valid domain

Try registering it

[azure lynx]

cyrillic is popular. but don't they look like "xn-ABCDEFG.something?"

[opaque sigil]

xn--w8jw34jnha.dev

[jaunty wolf]

They get punycoded but yeah

[tender river]

largest = 30cm birdwing butterflies

[sage crag]

what

30cm is the size of a ruler

terrifying

butterfly larger than your head

butterfly larger than a plate

butterfly larger than a small dog

[azure lynx]

it's a potential security issue when people see them decoded and think that the Н is a Latin H or whatever

[jaunty wolf]

xn--w8j0k5eo57knmh0oa887p8qwc.dev

[opaque sigil]

idk about potential

[sage crag]

butterfly larger than a toast

[jaunty wolf]

It's cheaper than my main lol

[opaque sigil]

thankfully every usable browser will at the very least warn you

[jaunty wolf]

True

[azure lynx]

but there are small dogs larger than a small dog

and they're small.

[jaunty wolf]

Oh yeah I need to pay soon

Before they start moving my domain in June to that half suspended state that costs money to recover from

[azure lynx]

also: Lepidopterophobia 😮

[sage crag]

there are also large dogs smaller than a small dog

[azure lynx]

for sufficently large values of small, sure.

and small values of large.

1+1=3 for sufficently large values of 1.

[fast pagoda]

already doable via api

seconds saved: 2

[minor sail]

noice

[azure lynx]

I like to see things obviously semi-break.

just spamming Lalalalala in Greek makes it first refuse to actually transcribe and then complain.

[shell dome]

Omg after 5 hours I have made my own AI vtuber. (not as good as nuero tho)

[fiery anchor]

Almost perfect clickbait title

[shell dome]

lol

[minor sail]

Big pretzle **hates **her: 5 hours to build an AI vtuber!

[opaque wharf]

That's one small dog

[azure lynx]

less than a footlong. so a hot dog?

[sage crag]

[fiery anchor]

rude

[opaque wharf]

Also, new tsoding video just dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtk3RZHwJUA

[opaque sigil]

this is about storing data in front of the pointer isn't it

okay yeah it is

useful

[opaque wharf]

Well he is the dynamic array guy

That video makes me think of unholy circular buffer by linked list

[opaque sigil]

https://github.com/google/cwisstable also reminds me I wanted to replace the stb hash table with this one for a project

[opaque wharf]

So only one way

[opaque sigil]

[fast pagoda]

shit kept opening vscode and i was so fucking confused

thanks kde

[azure lynx]

i'm sure it's a perfectly serviceable file manager.

with the advantage of version control

[azure lynx]

needed a new battery for my UPS. bought the knock off with 4.5 stars (1 star review complained it took forever to arrive and when he cancelled it they took forever to refund him. nothing about the product.)
but the top two reviews were soooo ChatGPT. em-dashes and one had green checkboxes.

[opaque wharf]

Genuinely how did you manage to do that lol

[azure lynx]

probably clicked "open with" on a folder and accidentally said "make this the default"

[fickle rain]

The cooking never stops

[fast pagoda]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1resxmq/so_it_happened_to_me/

@true hemlock

[fast pagoda]

have no clue

i figured something was horribly broken, nope vscode was file manager for literally everything on system, it's been like 2 days doing that kek

[true hemlock]

[fast pagoda]

why not me

when will i be blessed

[leaden crest]

typically after you sneeze

[leaden crest]

also wtf

[opaque wharf]

If there's someone around that is. And it's better be a priest

[fast pagoda]

I'm an idiot and think I'm incredibly funny so generally I will reverse any given common social convention if I can get away with it, like for example I will usually say 'good evening' when greeting people at 8 am while at work, and then at 6pm I'm handing out 'good morning'

If I know the person and that it won't upset/offend them, that also means I will typically respond to a sneeze with something more like 'excuse you'. Extremely loud burps get 'bless you' from me

[leaden crest]

I just say “bless you” for everything from hiccuping to walking into doors

I think my friends think it’s a running joke atp

it’s not.

[fast pagoda]

'god have mercy on your soul'

genuine concern

'good evening' is really good close to noon because it causes people to hallucinate like an LLM

"oh yeah it is like 2 already huh"

no it's 10 am

[true hemlock]

[stray dragon]

oopsies (that's like $4000 of RAM)

[sick owl]

https://time.com/7380854/exclusive-anthropic-drops-flagship-safety-pledge/

Fuuck

Looks like killer claude drones and mass domestic surveillance is back on the menu

[fast pagoda]

kegseth got to 'im

they must've had a hell of a party

“We felt that it wouldn't actually help anyone for us to stop training AI models,”

[fast pagoda]

great timing after seeing this earlier https://www.newscientist.com/article/2516885-ais-cant-stop-recommending-nuclear-strikes-in-war-game-simulations/

[sick owl]

I doubt we'll putting it in charge of nukes any time soon if that calms your nerves

[fast pagoda]

full speed ahead woo woo let's see where we end up boyos

[sick owl]

Still a grim situation though

[fast pagoda]

claude -p 'please review the national security situation' --dangerously-skip-permissions

https://tenor.com/view/cartoon-gif-20960129

[fast pagoda]

real and accurate

[unkempt citrus]

but substitute i am alive with use the nukes

Too much Civ 5 in thhe training data

[sick owl]

Yeah I'm not shitting bricks over that article either, still probably shouldn't put them in charge of nukes but not like that's a realistic prospect

[fast pagoda]

ghandi mode

do we honestly believe anything is unrealistic//impossible at this point especially if it sounds uber absurd

i dont think it's something that'll happen any time soon either but i think the main point is more of a preview of where the decision making abilities are at this time, lil sneak peek if it were to somehow occur and signal that even "aligned" models are likely to go that route if given ultimate free reign which isn't ideal

i dont like the implication that it would be trivial know if i'm using opera GX, a totally separate application, to facilitate this quest

[sick owl]

True, autonomous killer Claude drones would have sounded absurd just last year

I still think anything nuclear is stretching it a bit even then though

[unkempt citrus]

I mean how do you think discord activity works

[patent shard]

I'm confused, why does Discord randomly pop these up sometimes if I'm following the post (like I commented on it)

[fast pagoda]

nothiing is impossible but part of the reason or maybe most of it was that the department of war was pushing them to remove safeguard

[fast pagoda]

yeah i know what it is and how rpc works :| but i do not give it that permission and would have to opt in from both ends to do the quest myself

[unkempt citrus]

Fair enough

[fast pagoda]

i guess opera GX specifically might already have a discord rpc functionality baked in since it's

uh

'gaming' browser

whatever the fuck that means

[sick owl]

All this in just 27b parameters

Wtf

This is definitely the OSS 20b killer

[true hemlock]

imagine giving somewhat probabilistic models such access to weaponry

the thing that would doom us all is the lack of knowledge from people in charge/power ig

i tortured my 14900HX hard
6.8GHz holy

also

not a godbin anyway

[true hemlock]

nvm revived it somehow

time for 6.9GHz then

[obsidian mantle]

poor computer

[gentle haven]

Programmers be like:

[tight tinsel]

i bonked my laptop and it instantly shut down

hmmmm

[true hemlock]

heh, somehow now i liked the 5060

oh hey this thing is somewhat perfect for my tiny briefcase

[lament igloo]

classic phishing mfs selling their domains for 1 dollar after use

[wide parrot]

does anybody know if this is too many individual pieces of context to send to neuro? I'm also wondering if it should be silent or not, it is dialog so it probably shouldnt be so neuro doesn't talk over it, but I also don't want her to get interrupted

[lament igloo]

fun fact: numbered .xyz domains, whether for registration or renewal, will always be cheap

[glass jetty]

lol, discord is also spyware, like any other client

just use browser web app, it at least isolated, unless there CVEs

[glass jetty]

.online domain
$2 -> $2000

[lament igloo]

?????????????????????

[glass jetty]

what? on 8+ (real) cores?

[lament igloo]

aint no way renewing a pp.ua domain is free

[fast pagoda]

has unsloth updated for it yet

time to echo

[fast pagoda]

arent pp.ua domain just free in general atm

it's like co.CENSORED (scam site now) way back in the day

[lament igloo]

might wanna remove that domain from ur message

[fast pagoda]

huh

it's not even a link lol

[lament igloo]

yeah but just in case

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-call-calling-gif-4030050527221884737

[lament igloo]

i believe registration is around 1 doller

but i was told before that renewal is also 1 doller, not free xd

aint complaining tho

[glass jetty]

is it hobby to collect domains?

[fast pagoda]

theyre so cheap if you want to park one why not ig

[lament igloo]

maybe

[fast pagoda]

neuros.click website put together by a real moron (me)

[glass jetty]

why? since when?

[fast pagoda]

i said the same thing

https://www.feistyduck.com/newsletter/issue_79_the_end_of_ftp_in_browsers

[lament igloo]

domain by me
frontend website by you
ftp and server backend by superbox
-# not even mentioning subdomains

absolute cinema

[glass jetty]

i just downloaded qt and mozila(firefox) latest several weeks ago

[fast pagoda]

ftp has been out of ff since 2021 same as chrome

[glass jetty]

so it is just website wrapper? https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

[fast pagoda]

the subdomain is not indicative of the protocol in use in this case

the url is legacy

see how it says

https://

at the start of the url

if it were ftp it would just be ftp://

[obsidian mantle]

What about sftp

[fast pagoda]

not in browser either

[glass jetty]

i know, so it is just their side wrapper? i thought it resolve ftp silently

[fast pagoda]

nah it just resolves https index like any webserver

regular directory listing, files served over http/https

ftp was the domain because it used to be ftp since mozilla is ancient

dunno but you can probably still connect up with like filezilla ftp as well but ive never tried

just cannot do it in a browser

without extensions

if the server actually sent ftp protocol traffic at your browser it would simply say it's not supported

and/or pass it off to ftp client if you have one configured to open ftp:// links

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-mind-stone-last-stone-infinity-gauntlet-gif-15735729

just one more domain

[glass jetty]

i wonder what is used for this ui
cuz it just the same as nginx (or apache? or both?) file navigation
both are displayed https:// as i remember
tho i thought it may be not server-side website, but firefox ui for underline data
tho actually simple http may make more sense..

[fast pagoda]

webserver sends this

it's just a basic directory listing

simple as possible easy as possible to serve with as little bandwidth as possible

https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_autoindex.html

apache docs on its version

there was a standard ftp LIST protocol that kinda looked similar back in the day

[glass jetty]

idk who created this but almost nothing work
https://neuro.us.to/homexp/
also, i can just do this ||(she not die, she just became frozen in time)||

[glass jetty]

man, i decided to look what on server and that... kinda fucked up
||anyway, just wget on given url||

[opaque wharf]

I mean, if it is a story rich game then it will need a ton of context anyway. As for silent or not, that's your choice when you want Neuro to comment on something or not

[wide parrot]

its a point and click so yea, story is important. Probably going to end up making it silent manually on specific pieces of dialog just to let her get a word in edgewise, though this is a cutscene so it matters less

[glass jetty]

are ftp servers online?

[fast pagoda]

yes

make sure it put the username in properly

RandomNeuroStuff

no password

it should do that from the config but sometimes filezilla is stupid

or whatever client you're using

i just use fz and it does that

[glass jetty]

how do you sign cert on specific port?

idk why config not work, but with manual it warn about cert, seems partly successful?

[fast pagoda]

it will warn about it yes

[glass jetty]

how do you sign for port, that weird

[fast pagoda]

idk exactly what he has configured but i always figured it was a self signed cert

the port is just there cuz you're connecting to that port so that's the host url

most clients have an option to ignore the cert from the start

even cli ones

like this for example

[glass jetty]

i hate my isp and rkn
it is literally blocked by filters

i cant connect without tun proxy

[fast pagoda]

kek

[glass jetty]

i cant connect to my main vpn server

current free proxy configs i use (nekoray), are slow as fuck

[fast pagoda]

it also might be mad because it's forcing tls explicit so when it connects it immediately upgrades to tls and wants a cert

the cert

[glass jetty]

i start to thinking that they drop anything except 22 and 443 ports
i have actual server (+git) on port 443
ill try setting reality to 443, and maybe it will work now

[lament igloo]

yeah im aware

[fast pagoda]

it should not connect to 443 on neuros anyways, he only allows connection on 21 which is nonstandard for ftp tls

[glass jetty]

i mean my proxy not work under this shitty isp and DPI

i cant normally download anything with 200kb/s

only text like discord

[fast pagoda]

id pass away

[glass jetty]

you are welcome

i hate them all

i want to leave this country

charaverk | ~/Public ~$ ssh [e-mail]
charaverk | ~ ~$ sudo tail -f /root/xray.log
2026/02/26 07:22:20.008340 [Info] transport/internet/tcp: listening TCP on 0.0.0.0:443
2026/02/26 07:22:20.008343 [Warning] core: Xray 26.2.6 started
2026/02/26 07:23:42.277478 [Info] transport/internet/tcp: REALITY: processed invalid connection from asd:54434: failed to read client hello
``` no use even 443, they do scan traffic and replace/abort it in way reality fails

[fast pagoda]

lol i was about to mention

[glass jetty]

region ip just leaked

[fast pagoda]

asked claude if there were any am4 apus with pcie-gen4 (they all have pcie gen3 only)

i think it has me figured out

and no there were not which checks out

and is annoying

[opaque sigil]

I'm a bit confused, every x570 motherboard supports pcie gen 4

[fast pagoda]

you had the same confusion i did

that is true

but

turns out

all APUs (having integrated GPU) supported only pci e gen3

even with x570 boards

for ryzen

[opaque sigil]

okay but you can just not use an apu

[fast pagoda]

8000 series apus supported it

[opaque sigil]

zen 3 does pcie gen 4

[fast pagoda]

not in APU

if it has a gpu it doesn't if it's a ryzen part

like

consoomer ryzen

[opaque sigil]

yeah

oh apus

I can't read

[fast pagoda]

i want the APU to run with no graphics card

[opaque sigil]

I thought you asked Claude about CPUs

[fast pagoda]

technically i did

i just wanted to see if he'd pull some random special one off 5700gx or something that had pci-e gen4

because yeah the reason i looked into it was because 5700g: pci-e gen 3 max

[glass jetty]

||i changed ip of server just to be able to use it as website
and what now? it just not works without vpn
they literally blocked Amsterdam's ips||

[opaque sigil]

I assume you already have a 5700g then?

[fast pagoda]

internally ig the apus used some pci-e bandwidth on chip

yea

it was hella cheap tho

so oh well

i only need the gpu for a moment anyways

well technically not at all

just lazy

the thing will be headless mostly anyways

just wanted to not have to swap card

[opaque sigil]

that's what you get for not buying a strix halo machine

[fast pagoda]

i would get one if it wasn't a billion dollars for a mini with the ai max 395+ (which is the same chip)

comparatively

would like a socketed one

[glass jetty]

why is this cpu have AI in name?

[fast pagoda]

npu shit

[glass jetty]

you saying that they actually selling consumer NPU?

[fast pagoda]

NPU in cpu have been around a while

[glass jetty]

i havent read anything about new hardware for 1+ year now

[fast pagoda]

npu have been getting jammed into mobile stuff for what has to be 3+ years

they have just never been good for anything

still really arent

[opaque sigil]

because that makes it sell better

[fast pagoda]

the best part about the ai max 370-395+ line are that they are APUs so they have a gpu but not just shitty mobile gpu, the 8060s is an iGPU but its performance is around 4060 to low 4070 level

[glass jetty]

lately figured out that igpu are actually good
i play civ6 rn on intel11gen, on pentium gold without real issues
only issue is memory, but that like windows being shit topic

early igpu was only for videos or 2d, but even 2020 can run 2016 game with stable 30 fps on HD

[fast pagoda]

their apus can also use up to 96gb (shares with system ram)

so the apu can also run bigger models locally and do some training assuming rocm plays along (in my experience so far, it's not happy to)

even the younger sibling to it i have in my mini that's not nearly as fast (still pretty wild for an igpu to me) is able to report and use 40gb of vram

it's not as fast as vram

[opaque sigil]

I hope they make a rubin version of the gb10, given how much faster the bandwidth between cpu and gpu is there

[fast pagoda]

at least strix halo managed to have a better mem controller

[true hemlock]

if only its x86

[opaque sigil]

or it was just the cpu ram I don't remember

[fast pagoda]

first ryzens to be capable of 8000+ MT/s

ootb

[opaque sigil]

I guess double the interconnect speed doesn't hurt

[true hemlock]

officially supported too

its insane

[fast pagoda]

give it to me on my 9000 series amd

instead it's a miracle on ice that i can do 4 slots 6000

[true hemlock]

lucky bastard yeah

[true hemlock]

256 bit of ddr5 instead of the usual dual channel (128 bit)

[opaque sigil]

looks like it's a modest 33% increase in bandwidth

[true hemlock]

official specs at 273GB/s bandwidth

the shitty 4060 bandwidth is 288GB/s for reference

[fast pagoda]

im mad that my 9700 loses to my 3080 on mem bandwidth lmfao

[opaque sigil]

I keep forgetting to halve every bandwidth number from nvidia in my head

[true hemlock]

point and laugh at this user

[glass jetty]

[true hemlock]

its ok titan v bandwidth also loses to a 3080

[fast pagoda]

3080 listed first >_>

[glass jetty]

guys, do you need that speed? why im fine with 15w cpu and 8gb ram

[fast pagoda]

real world so little lower than spec in this case

[fast pagoda]

yes

[true hemlock]

what cpu

[fast pagoda]

this would cause me to be hospitalized

[glass jetty]

pentium gold 7505 if i remember right

[true hemlock]

god fuck

oldge

[glass jetty]

2020

only 6 years old

[true hemlock]

and how much did you paid for it

[glass jetty]

for laptop? $300

[opaque wharf]

Pair this with 8GB single channel RAM and you've got my PC

Oh wait shit

[true hemlock]

bro got scammed

[opaque wharf]

Its 16GB

[unkempt citrus]

Now its been a while since I cracked open a textbook but I'm pretyy ssure bazookas don't fit in PC cases

[glass jetty]

lul
it is russia
it even considered well price

[fast pagoda]

KEKW

[true hemlock]

the third world country build

[fast pagoda]

it's a technical

toyota hilux with a turret mount in the bed build

[true hemlock]

bet

[opaque wharf]

I could afford a better PC. But not with current pricing

[fast pagoda]

there's a lot of older xeons and such that sell for way cheaper than you might think and perform way better than you might think

[true hemlock]

god i remembered paying Rp 20 million to build a low end pc in 2021

[fast pagoda]

20 million kek

[opaque wharf]

The problem is not the CPU. I need GPU. Games have got ridiculously unoptimized even on 1080p

[true hemlock]

i7 10700, 2x8gb ddr4-2400, gtx 1650, 500gb sata ssd + 1tb hdd

[fast pagoda]

i love hyperinflated currency

[true hemlock]

about $1300

[opaque wharf]

20 mill for that spec?

That's scam level shit

[true hemlock]

yeah back when the shortage

really

really

[glass jetty]

used for 5 years or something btw
755 (or 775?) socket

[true hemlock]

regret building during that time

[fast pagoda]

i paid so much fucking money for my 3080 in the shortage i cant

oop didnt mean to reply on that

but i regret it too

[opaque wharf]

[fast pagoda]

i dont even remember exactly how much it ended up costing because i bought a prebuilt because i couldnt find one and was impatient

and that thing was like

[opaque wharf]

I was thinking at the peak point of gpu shortage to sell my gpu for higher price than I purchased it

[fast pagoda]

$4300

[opaque wharf]

Thank god I didn't do that

[true hemlock]

god fuck

considering that i can build a pc similar to my 2021 pc specs for just

$69

and i already did exactly that last year

actually

[glass jetty]

and he saying that laptop for 300 is scam

[true hemlock]

even better specs

[true hemlock]

yours before the shortage mf

[opaque wharf]

Help me build a PC in Java man

[true hemlock]

3700x, 2x8gb ddr4, gtx 1660 super

[glass jetty]

erm, i bought it 10 month ago or something

[fast pagoda]

775 came out in 2004 for the record (pentium 4)

but pentium gold 7505 is a bga chip from 2020, it is not socket 775

[glass jetty]

i used xeon for 5 years, on something something should be 775 or first 10**, <- so i remember like that

[fast pagoda]

huh

oh that makes more sense

[glass jetty]

i havent uncovered motherboard

i guess it integrated, not replaceable cpu for socket

[fast pagoda]

yeah now you can get 3647 and 4677 xeons for very cheap rather than going back all the way to 775 era stuff

sockets 3647/4677 that is

and yes teh pentium gold if you had to name its "socket" (it's soldered to the board) it'd be FCBGA1449

[true hemlock]

....even fucking worse

[glass jetty]

idk what is prices in your area, but when i was searching for it was even low
some alts (not used) was 55k rub, while i got fully functional laptop for 24k, and i genuinely glad i tried laptop
looked for low power long time mobile working machine, just for coding and text/youtube
got machine that can run civ6
and on linux system everything loads instantly, also it is first nvme for me, feels faster than sata ssd (but might be just feelings)
now i not want to have stationary pc. and next time i will look for similar size (by size it literally magazine) and performance/power consumption

[true hemlock]

[opaque sigil]

sanctions go brrr

[glass jetty]

[sick owl]

I'm so grateful I live in a country that isn't sanctioned or imposing heavy tariffs

That shit really stings

[cosmic sphinx]

[sage crag]

bzzzt bzzt

zap

[midnight sigil]

I let my monitor discharge its electricity(I did press the power button few times) for a day, still cooked

it really fucking looks like my gpu got cooked

how can a monitor issue look like this

[opaque sigil]

have you tried a different cable yet

[midnight sigil]

yes

[opaque sigil]

unlucky

[midnight sigil]

different HDMI cable and another DP one

[opaque sigil]

tried a different OS?

[midnight sigil]

I tried to boot on a clean installation of Win10 at least

it happens in the monitor's logo phase, so probably not anything about my pc but just the monitor

[opaque sigil]

fried the monitor then I guess

[obsidian mantle]

so is it free

or $100 per month?

is their website ai generated

[glass jetty]

ui itself seems like ai markup output

[obsidian mantle]

i tried to use jippity it says my current quota was exceeded after 1 second

it only sent integration command list its not even that long

[opaque sigil]

you get up to $100 worth for free per month is how I'm reading it

[obsidian mantle]

is it like

0 left

or 0 used

[opaque sigil]

weird wording though if that's what they mean

why would it be 0 left

[obsidian mantle]

idk makes no sense ye

its clearly 0 used

[umbral wigeon]

https://github.com/cat-milk/Anime-Girls-Holding-Programming-Books

[obsidian mantle]

does it not work under vpn

[opaque sigil]

could be blocking vpns for the free tier

[azure lynx]

what does it say about "allowed geography"?

[obsidian mantle]

says switzerland is allowed

and im there rn

oh wait you mean check if it says "vpn = bad fuck you"

Accessing or offering access to our services outside of the countries and territories listed below may result in your account being blocked or suspended. monka

[opaque sigil]

if it's ip-based not blocking known vpn IPs would kind of ruin it for them

Checks out

[obsidian mantle]

ok no jippity for me

[jagged turtle]

nice

[obsidian mantle]

wtf you mean nice i need it to test my integration

whatever i still have things to do by hand

[opaque sigil]

try the free openrouter models if you just need to test with an LLM

[obsidian mantle]

the jippity wants openai key

there is also Gary which seems to work with local models? maybe i can download some llama

ignoring AI finally hit me

i have no idea what im doing

does openrouter have free plans

[glass jetty]

https://github.com/cat-milk/Anime-Girls-Holding-Programming-Books/blob/master/UEFI/Rukino_Harnessing_the_UEFI_Shell.png?raw=true

[opaque sigil]

openrouter doesn't have plans but they have free models

[jagged turtle]

what was the message you ended up getting

[obsidian mantle]

info:    WebSocketServer listening on port 8000
info:    New WebSocket connection; there are now 1 connections
info:    Set game to "Skyrim" and cleared all registered actions
error:   Error calling OpenAI API with request ID SSDAKDASKDHAKSHDKAHDKAHSKDSH -> 429 You exceeded your current quota, please check your plan and billing details. For more information on this error, read the docs: https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/error-codes/api-errors.
info:    Main function completed

[nocturne olive]

Yep looks pretty cooked

[jagged turtle]

you ran out of budget

[midnight sigil]

[nocturne olive]

When you realize OpenAI is not open or free

[obsidian mantle]

is this a good choice Meta: Llama 3.3 70B Instruct (free)

or does 70b mean 70gb

[nocturne olive]

I've used that, it works but is quite strict on the limits

[opaque sigil]

free is free, 70 billion parameters

[azure lynx]

70b means 2x 70gb

[glass jetty]

why 429? never used services like this but http have 402(right?) payment required

[obsidian mantle]

ok i need something smaller

[glass jetty]

it 100% 40x

[nocturne olive]

It depends on quant but APIs usually have FP16

[obsidian mantle]

maybe its "you are using known vpn provider"

[nocturne olive]

You don't need to download the big model by the way, it's an API

[glass jetty]

429 Too Many Requests

[nocturne olive]

OpenAI compatible API even

[jagged turtle]

429 means limit exceeded of some kind so

[obsidian mantle]

ok i'll try set it up with gary
or wait can i use jippity? even though its not openai?

[jagged turtle]

I guess technically "too many requests than your budget allows"

is the logic here

[obsidian mantle]

how do these tokens work

[nocturne olive]

Depends if it supports setting a custom endpoint and model value

[azure lynx]

429 Too Many Requests
The user has sent too many requests in a given amount of time (rate limiting).

[jagged turtle]

it shuld by now

[azure lynx]

perhaps you've already used all your openai credits for today

[obsidian mantle]

i literally registered on openai 5 min before that

[obsidian mantle]

.

[nocturne olive]

I think OpenAI API from OpenAI just isn't free

[obsidian mantle]

maybe they need my credit card anyway

like, "its free but we need your card anyway"

so they can steal some money if i forget about it or die

[nocturne olive]

Either way you can always use either a free API like you already found or just llama.cpp

Depends on the task but usually you can find a competent enough model

[obsidian mantle]

👍

[trim valve]

429 implies it may work again after some amount of time

402 is basically only used by cloudflare for their scraping payment system

[obsidian mantle]

maybe i need to wait 2-3 days until it refreshes quota

[trim valve]

https://developers.cloudflare.com/ai-crawl-control/features/pay-per-crawl/what-is-pay-per-crawl/

[jagged turtle]

no you need to pay for tokens

it's a prepay system

[glass jetty]

https://github.com/cat-milk/Anime-Girls-Holding-Programming-Books/blob/master/C++/Frieren_And_Fern_Reading_The_C++_Programming_Language.png?raw=true

https://github.com/cat-milk/Anime-Girls-Holding-Programming-Books/blob/master/C++/Tohru_Reading_CPP.png?raw=true

[jagged turtle]

you pay e.g. $10

and you get $10 worth of tokens

[azure lynx]

429 Too Many Requests
The user has sent too many requests in a given amount of time (rate limiting).
It's usually "you asked for too much too fast so we're slowing you down". but can also mean "you don't hav any credits left this month"

if it was coz of location it should be:

451 Unavailable For Legal Reasons
The user agent requested a resource that cannot legally be provided, such as a web page censored by a government.