programming

[fickle rain]

I mean try it

Apparently Google doesn't like their subs for Gemini being used in not their harnesses?

Seems like it's only OpenAI that doesn't give a shit

And says "ok you can use Plus/Pro anywhere, we don't really care"

[azure lynx]

i think part of the reason they might not like it is because they will tend to do worse and make them look bad . the testing showed that in other models: changing harness made grok 10x better [on some metric] because it didn't have to struggle with the tools as much. [apparently]
most of the changes you make will probably make the model perform worse. google probably don't want it to publicly perform worse (at the harder task of working perfectly with everything vs working "perfectly" with a select few partners.)

[opaque sigil]

unfortunately antigravity as harness is kinda shit

maybe go fix that first

[simple sky]

Is this normal for web dev? This seems like too much CSS 😭

[amber fractal]

seems about right

gotta undo every step you did before

[fast pagoda]

so i kept seeing NGFF B+M key//NVME drives listed on like aliexpress, temu etc as some genericized "980 pro" or "990 pro" or even the fanciful "1080 pro"

for way cheaper than expected

like 30-40 bucks

i finally bought one just to see what the fuck would actually arrive

answer is what appears to be a real drive controller (maybe) on a B+M key 2280 m.2 pcb

with no bga slots populated

flashed to report "2tb" but returning all 0x00 across the entire array

the pcb itself appears to be some sort of manufacturer demo board

at least that's what it claims to be based on the silkscreened text on the back

[azure lynx]

"it's got no chips because it's cloud storage, right? right? that's what they told me in the alley...."

[azure lynx]

it looks like it's got one "something" on a set of pads

[fast pagoda]

check out this labeling lol

yeah one pad is populated iwth something

i think it's either an empty package or a dead one

[azure lynx]

RM1135_A that ;/

[fast pagoda]

the demo part is what's interesting to me

like they got ahold of a batch of manufacturer demo boards

i think this is or is made to look like it's a board designed for like evals

[azure lynx]

"this is what it would look like if you had that much storage"

[fast pagoda]

so the manufacturer gets it and is able to solder their own memory modules to it to test them out with the controller realtek is demoing

and somehow these folks got their hands on either a batch of them or copied them

[azure lynx]

definitely not supposed to be enduser stuff

[fast pagoda]

and the scam is justr

charge 40 bucks

people dont know they didnt just esd it

[azure lynx]

maybe you could sell it for more as an interesting object ;]

[fast pagoda]

or break it somehow

or DOA

and then dont bother to return it

+$40

cost: $1 for scrap board

[azure lynx]

find the history of the board and write a google doc, print to PDF, now it's an artifact.

[true hemlock]

scam lol

[fast pagoda]

i knew it was a scam but i just wanted to see exactly what they were "selling"

[true hemlock]

i especially hated those ones with like "16TB SSD" that is listed at $4

[azure lynx]

"i feel bad ripping them off for hundreds at a time. that's why i price it so low only real idits will buy. and even poor people can afford $4." ;]

[true hemlock]

often times it has 4+ stars reviews because people that bought it are fucking idiot

[olive sable]

nah

those are bots

[true hemlock]

no lol its people who saw that the drive reported to be 16TB without knowing shit about firmware

[olive sable]

a real person wouldnt give it a good rating the moment their windows install fails

[true hemlock]

your average idiot wouldn't even know how to install windows and would just use the drive for data

they see it reports 16TB they give 5 star ratings

[opaque sigil]

plug it in
see windows say 16TB
"this is sick"

[fast pagoda]

it DOES "report" 2tb with some generic firmware

but yeah every sectore is filled with 0x00

becaused it's not real

it gets the results in like

.0002s with all bytes 0x00

no latency

it just pukes up 0x00

[true hemlock]

my father paid $4 thinking he could get 128GB usb drive easily. even bought 2 of them

when i noticed it corrupts data i checked and its a 1Gbit nand (128MB) lol

arguing with my father was fucking ass. this idiot kept repeating i should plug it in the pc and see it for myself while im trying to explain that the firmware is literally modified

[nocturne olive]

Sily
At least my 15€ 256GB is real

[true hemlock]

i paid $15 aud ($9 at the time) for a 256GB MLC nvme

that shit is outliving my 4tb

[nocturne olive]

Crazy

[fast pagoda]

"normal" price for a slow 128gb drive rn here is like 12 dollar

4 would be epic

slow being usb 2.0 so agonizing

for a 3.1 more like 15-18 bux

can get a set of 5 usb 3.0 so about 100 MB/s for like $9 each in 128gb

kinda boring that the scam was just send a blank demo "drive" and hope theyre too slovenly and lazy to return it

smartctl 7.5 2025-04-30 r5714 [x86_64-linux-6.18.9-zen1-2-zen] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-25, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     SSD 2TB
Serial Number:    C868680B01311315229
LU WWN Device Id: 0 000000 000000000
Firmware Version: VE0R6304
User Capacity:    2,000,398,934,016 bytes [2.00 TB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate:    Solid State Device
Form Factor:      2.5 inches
TRIM Command:     Available, deterministic
Device is:        Not in smartctl database 7.5/5706
ATA Version is:   ACS-3, ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 6
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Sun Feb 22 20:21:54 2026 CST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
AAM feature is:   Unavailable
APM feature is:   Unavailable
Rd look-ahead is: Disabled
Write cache is:   Enabled
DSN feature is:   Unavailable
ATA Security is:  Disabled, NOT FROZEN [SEC1]

LU WWN Device Id: 0 000000 000000000

classic WWN

88     5645 3052 3633 3034 5f70 5f74 4833 5637     VE 0R 63 04 _p _t H3 V7
90     5635 2e33 0002 0080 0000 300c 00a0 0202     V5 .3```

REALTEK_RL6643VE0R6304_p_tH3V7V5.3

controller is real

poor thing

181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total  0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       23```

166 might be erase attempts so it's tried to write to that blank package on the 4th bga slot 23 times, failed each time, tried to erase 19 times and also failed completely

rip

[azure lynx]

i guess if they were going to try put malware on the drive they'd've at least put chips on it so you didn't question it.

they're just flogging off something they had foisted on them

me: $ git commit -m "Added logging of stdout and stderr when process starts. Added .gitignore for log/ directory."

me: why does it still say .gitignore is modified?
me: type type oops. oh. type type type

me: $ git commit -m "Actually staged .gitignore for commit"

that's how i'm making so many commits.

[azure lynx]

^ this is also how i stay safe from my agent geting dementia.

[azure lynx]

my dependency showing thing.
I added a comment:

# TODO: explore recursively implementing dependency health at a later time. that might make some cool light patterns.
The lights represent the capability that is being depended on by the service. Currently how many green lights you get doesn't affect the health returned. I'm interested if there are any config script which can go into feedback oscillations.

[olive sable]

big text

[azure lynx]

wasn't meant to be markdown. ;/

i thought the spaces would neutralize it but i guess leading spaces don't do that to markdown.

[fast pagoda]

i found this sketchy .ru with firmware dumps from this realtek controller and was looking thru the logs on there to see what nand this thing was expecting from the geometry it's configured to look for (and failing)

and the logs are fucking hilarious separately from anything else

my boi in these logs tried to flash this poor controller 74 times

before he got the right config

so many tries

also it turns out this thing is set up to expect what appears to be micron b27b nand

it's also configured to expect 512gb capacity max

when the drive is supposedly supposed to be 2tb

96L tlc nand from 2018-2021 same nand found on stuff like the sabrent rocket 4 plus or adata xpg sx8200

[glad orbit]

option on neuro

[rancid cedar]

For some reason, I just thought about the connection between these things.
Weight distribution and projection of Riemann spheres, Polytopes, Toric Variety, and large language models in complex space.

[olive sable]

i have no clue what half of those are lmao

[azure lynx]

isn't a Polytope when you have a tree split with more than 2 members when showing relatedness of species? mebe polytomy. so nope.

i know what spheres are and i like a good variety, i do. (is the mentioned kind of the donut-shaped variety?) so i have no idea.

[opaque wharf]

Polytope is just the generalization of polyhedra. Polyhedra is the usual 3d shapes with flat face

That means polytope is n-dimensional object with flat faces

Think of cubes (a polyhedra), the tesseract is the 4-d analog (a polytope)

[azure lynx]

thing that would hold an n-dimensional thing inside it. or keep one out. to protect your home from a 5-dimensional thief you'd need a 5-d polytope around it?

[olive sable]

so in othewr words, an n-gon?

[azure lynx]

no. n-gon is n-sided.

[olive sable]

its a flat shape

so it has to be an n-gon

[azure lynx]

probably the 2-d analog you mean?

flat in n-dimensions though, not with n sides.

[olive sable]

n-gons arent limited to 2D

[azure lynx]

they're just a 2d surface though.

[opaque wharf]

No, n-gon is polygon with n-side

[olive sable]

a flat plane is a 2D surface

[opaque wharf]

This is the face not side

[azure lynx]

if any point in your n-gon isn't co-planer it's not an n-gon, it's (the opposite of degenerate? or just degenerate?)

[opaque wharf]

For example, the triangle is 3-gon. Its polyhedra is the humble https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deltahedron

[azure lynx]

i bet convex hulls have something to do with them

[olive sable]

an n-gon that isnt flat is still an n-gon

[azure lynx]

it's multiple planes though.

it's undefined in many places

[olive sable]

undefined sure, still an ngon tho

[azure lynx]

no, it's a broken polygon.

try pass non-planar n-gons to your graphics card

[opaque wharf]

n-gon must have all of their vertices lie on the same plane

[idle dune]

Thank god for Arch users and finding solutiions to the most obscure issues

[opaque wharf]

So it has to be flat

[olive sable]

n-gon literally just means n sides
they dont need to have coplanair vertices

[opaque wharf]

Wait

I forgot my geometry

[olive sable]

ye

[azure lynx]

it's not a defined surface though because it depends on how you treat it

[opaque wharf]

Wikipedia said it is a plane figure

[azure lynx]

we have "line" for 1-d, "n-gon" for 2-d, "n-hedra" for 3-d, and polytope is the generalization?

[opaque wharf]

Since the definition of n-gon is n-sided polygon, and polygon must be a plane figure, n-gon must be a flat object

Otherwise the interior is undefined

[azure lynx]

as i said, try passing non-planar n-gons to Vulkan

[barren pecan]

hiii sorry to interrupt who has knowledge on web design and has a experience in freecodecamp i need help on one lap problem

[olive sable]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalized_polygon

[olive sable]

you can

you can send quads

it will triangleize it

because you cant show a 4D object on a screen like that

[opaque wharf]

Well, but then it would mean polytope are not generalized n-gon

[olive sable]

idk what to tell you

you gonna say this isnt an n-gon?

[opaque wharf]

Generalized polygon, not the usual polygon

[olive sable]

its an n-gon

[opaque wharf]

n-gon is polygon with n-sides

So it is a generalized n-gon, but not n-gon

[olive sable]

thats dumb

[opaque wharf]

That's math

Your's is specifically skew n-gon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skew_polygon

[olive sable]

i reject that

ive decided that eventho you're right, i will continue to use the word n-gon in the way that i have decided is correct

becasue fuck you

[rancid cedar]

My thought just now was
Can we distribute the model's weights in complex space, on the Toric Variety composed of Riemann spheres and Polytopes?

[olive sable]

maybe

idk

try it

[opaque wharf]

Can we not? storing it on an SSD and then loaded to VRAM is good enough

[amber fractal]

maybe (I got no idea about any of these topics)

[rancid cedar]

Could this be an efficient model quantization strategy?

Because essentially, this is a higher-dimensional version of the GPU's core function—image rendering.

[azure lynx]

i was right. toric variety is about donuts.

algebra donuts

[rancid cedar]

At the same time, the principles of training, inference, and emergence can also be fully deduced at the geometric level.

[chilly lion]

I hate programming why did I decide to be a CS: Game Design Major augh

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-crying-frieren-crying-gif-199542684162590099

[opaque wharf]

The duality of people (Sam and Teto)

[azure lynx]

CS: Game Design Major?
is that the new counterstrike? haven't seen the trailer.....

[chilly lion]

Computer Science

[azure lynx]

sometimes i'm only stupid so i can say stupid things.

i have a counterstrike degree myself.

[chilly lion]

lol I mean I love it and hate it at the same time

I wish I was better for sure

[azure lynx]

"maybe programming will be automatic by the time i get into the real world...."
programming is automatic
"maybe fixing the bugs the AIs leave in their code will be automatic soon."

[chilly lion]

😭😭😭

[fast pagoda]

imagine wiring this up for 16tb

seems so low since theyre just small

[idle dune]

Technically

It is stil cheaper than most 16tb drives

[rare bramble]

$250 in hdd, $2000 in extra mounting gear, sata ports, wiring and extra power needed

[fast pagoda]

and then after all that you get a medium size hard drive worth of storage

[idle dune]

The real advantage of this is much drives is that you can now organize by every single file type ever

[fast pagoda]

320 gb ought to be enough for anybody

[rough bloom]

single 16 TB hard drive with 50 partitions

[azure lynx]

This is the first attempt by Gemini 3.1 at making an animated line drawing style face. It had one division by zero check missing which happened to come up in the first file.
other than that it worked fine. now i just need to rescale the eyes and move them to the correct location.
ditto the eyebrows.
and add a nose.
so it was intended to capture the vibe of the ascii art image i had. it'd be cool if i made it so as it went through the image it drew it slightly whiter, so the last stuff was brightest and the old stuff was already fading away... even though it doesn't have phosphors, i could fake that.

[amber fractal]

what are the write and reads on him?

[azure lynx]

looks like an old school cyberpunk AI avatar

[idle dune]

THe untilamte raid array

[gaunt bay]

I just realised Vedal MUST USE MINEFLAYER FOR NEURO TO PLAY MINECRAFT.
THERES NO OTHER WAY BC IM TESTING MY OWN AI AND IT LOOKS EXACTLY LIKE NEURO WHEN SHE'S PLAYING MINECRAFT

[jagged turtle]

Is the person above me schizo?

[azure lynx]

probably not. based on their profile, they do appear to be playing minecraft.

[gaunt bay]

bro

picolers zurgx i can ss if u want

Its just im using a small ass model bc i got 8gb of VRAM 😭 I CANT RUN A GOOD AI MODEL 😭

i need a 4090 that has 32gb of vram

then i can make something good

[azure lynx]

i'll do wonderous things with another 24.

[gaunt bay]

Lol

I've been coding on this pc with a 4060 ti

and holy shit

its so baddd

MY LAPTOP

IS BETTER

THAN MY PC LOL

it runs ai models better than my pc can 😭

[trim valve]

I mean, from the few streams I saw it would make sense

[gaunt bay]

ye

cuz mineflayer

is like

its hard to explain

but it moves

[trim valve]

especially at the beginning a lot of it seemed to be a glorified spectator mode

[gaunt bay]

Lol SO TRUE

[rough bloom]

maybe not Mineflayer specifically but similar architecture seems likely

[azure lynx]

people on reddit been saying that's probably it. but they also say both it was something he made totally himself and something he hacked to make work with the twins.
the whole spectrum

[gaunt bay]

I feel like it would be mineflayer tho

like

the movement n stuff

is so similar?

[azure lynx]

is it emergent garden who does the AI minecraft build experiment videos?

i think that's what he uses

[gaunt bay]

Like SEarch up "Voyager LLM" And watch some videos. Voyager llm USES MINEFLAYER AND THE MOVEMENT AND STUFF IS SO SIMILAR TO THE THING VEDAL USES

UNLESS vedal does use Mine Flayer

[trim valve]

I mean mineflayer at it's very core is just a JavaScript library that can connect to an MC server

[gaunt bay]

True

[trim valve]

with a few features around pathfinding, etc.

[azure lynx]

he may have cut the top off of Mineflayer and glued on some wires to neuro-sdk

[trim valve]

idk why you're thinking he had to mess about with mineflayer at all

the whole point is it's a library

[gaunt bay]

"uture tool upgrades (wooden_pickaxe/axe) and enable efficient food sourcing (e.g., fishing hooks). The nearby coal ore also supports potential energy/light later.
[SERVER] [20:51:55] [Server thread/INFO]: [Not Secure] <JARVIS> Objective: Mine 4 spruce logs (or
any available log type) within 64m range
[SERVER] [20:51:56] [Server thread/INFO]: [Not Secure] <JARVIS> === JARVIS Commands ===
[SERVER] [20:51:56] [Server thread/INFO]: [Not Secure] <JARVIS> !help — show this list
[BOT] c:\Users\Jack\Desktop\Jarvis\jarvis_mc.js:724
[BOT] if (!response.ok) throw new Error(HTTP ${response.status});
[BOT] ^
[BOT]
[BOT] Error: HTTP 400
[BOT] at callLM (c:\Users\Jack\Desktop\Jarvis\jarvis_mc.js:724:29)
[BOT] at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:105:5)
[BOT] at async Timeout.thinkAndAct [as _onTimeout] (c:\Users\Jack\Desktop\Jarvis\jarvis_mc.js:888:21)
[BOT]
[BOT] Node.js v24.4.1
[SERVER] [20:51:59] [Server thread/INFO]: JARVIS lost connection: Disconnected
[SERVER] [20:51:59] [Server thread/INFO]: JARVIS left the game"

Bruhh i lOVE debugging. Its totally THE BEST part of programming

[maiden geyser]

bro is named jack😭

[gaunt bay]

Its the start of my name lol

not my actual first name

bro i wish i was named Ryan

Ryan is so much cooler

"[BOT] [JARVIS-RETRY] Exploring further for logs while prioritizing stone tool progression and addressing hunger by hunting nearby animals
[SERVER] [20:56:20] [Server thread/INFO]: [Not Secure] <JARVIS> Sir, I’ll scout for trees beyond range first—then hunt for food before mining stone.
[BOT] -> move_forward {"seconds":3}
[BOT] [JARVIS] Exploring further for logs to mine, as no trees were found within initial range—directly addressing player’s stone-tool priority and ensuring log acquisition before crafting progression
[BOT] -> move_forward {"seconds":2}
[SERVER] [20:56:20] [Server thread/INFO]: [Not Secure] <JARVIS> Sir, exploring for trees—will return with logs soon.
[BOT] [BOT] Kicked: [object Object]
[SERVER] [20:56:20] [Server thread/INFO]: JARVIS lost connection: Disconnected
[BOT] [BOT] Disconnected -- reconnecting in 5s
[SERVER] [20:56:20] [Server thread/INFO]: JARVIS left the game
[SERVER] [20:56:21] [Server thread/WARN]: handleDisconnection() called twice
[BOT] [✓] Mined stone
[BOT] [EXEC 3/3] 1 ok, 0 failed
[BOT] -> look {"yaw":-90,"pitch":0}
[BOT] -> look {"yaw":-90,"pitch":-15}
[BOT] [EXEC 1/3] 1 ok, 0 failed
[BOT] [EXEC 2/3] 1 ok, 0 failed
[BOT] [VERIFY] ✗ No logs were mined or crafted into planks to proceed with stone tool progression; player explicitly requested stone tools but no prior log acquisition was attempted.
[BOT] c:\Users\Jack\Desktop\Jarvis\jarvis_mc.js:254
[BOT] for (const [name, pl] of Object.entries(bot.players)) {
[BOT] ^
[BOT]
"

I feel like its a error with the !help cuz everytime i run !help ingame it crashes.. FAHHHH

[amber fractal]

that's a lot of logs

[gaunt bay]

yurp

and i love debugging a thousand line+ file

😄

im not crazy your crazy

[amber fractal]

Yeah I am, and I'm only at 200ish lines

[azure lynx]

[BOT] [BOT] Kicked: [object Object]
^- that log message could probably be tweaked.

maybe there is a function which returns or member which holds the name of things and not just the toString() method result?

[gaunt bay]

true

but now

IT WONT JOIN THE SERVER

holy shit

only if i had 32 gb of vram

😭

🙏

[amber fractal]

5090 with you

[gaunt bay]

bruvh as a 5090

i got a 4060 ti

😭

[amber fractal]

better than me

[azure lynx]

one day we'll all be able to buy 5090s and we'll all be happy.

[gaunt bay]

real

[amber fractal]

not with nvidia slashing 6000 for more cloud cards

[gaunt bay]

wild

I'm to fking lazy to debug 1k lines

im using ai

fk ts

[maiden geyser]

foreign key typescript

[gaunt bay]

Question is "LM_STUDIO_MODEL = "deepseek/deepseek-r1-0528-qwen3-8b"" The deepseek model is it good for 8gb of vram?

[amber fractal]

Sometimes I wonder if Vedal checks in here, would he be checking up on anyone's long term projects?

[gaunt bay]

imagine

[amber fractal]

this just reminded me how scammed you were with the 4060 ti

Not that I'm much better, 3060 6gb

[gaunt bay]

i upgraded my pc to the 4060 ti like in 2022.

And i havent changed it

😭

[azure lynx]

it was enough for some games in RTX though, right?

[gaunt bay]

yeah

it can run pirated escape from tarkov mid graphics on like 60fps

[azure lynx]

it'll be pretty mid, but it's not nothing. except that doesn't help with models

[gaunt bay]

true

[azure lynx]

you could maybe try a quantized model?

[gaunt bay]

yeah

[azure lynx]

basically they squeeze the numbers smaller so they take less room (but they're somewhat less accurate). how much it affects you depends a lot on how well the quantization was done

[gaunt bay]

i am using quantisized models

yeah ik

lol

i managed to make a lil VERY DUMB Neural network chatbot at school

AND THEY BLOCK

99% OF PYTHON IMPORTS

LOL

but it works

[azure lynx]

what model are you using?

[gaunt bay]

at school i iddnt use any model

it was PURE python

and maybe like counters

very dumb ai

[azure lynx]

so what model would you run if you had 32GB?
what about 16?
then repeat that until you get to 6.

you can set the max size when you search on huggingface so that helps a lot

how big of a model do you think you need? perhaps you do have enough vram

[gaunt bay]

true

Mb for the delayed response

i was debugging

uhh

if i had 32gb?

a 16gb Vision, Tool, Reasoning trace, STT model. Or just Vision, Tool, Reasoning trace

or a 20b parameter vision,tool,reasoning trace model

[azure lynx]

with 6GB you could do https://huggingface.co/google/gemma-3-4b-it-qat-q4_0-gguf easily
it has vision. and an LLM. no explicit training for tool or reasoning. instruct training only.
it's a B- match.

and qwen is apparently popular

there is a Gemma 3n which has STT and vision and LLM.

[gaunt bay]

ooh

hmm i might try those

[azure lynx]

they're not as good as larger models, but a model that fits in memory is better than one that doesn't

[kind nimbus]

https://github.com/CyberSecurityUP/NeuroSploit

Lol what a name for an AI powered pentesting framework

[gaunt bay]

My question is WHY DO THEY USE AI FOR PENTESTING?

THATS THE EASIEST WAY TO LIKE

IF IT FALLS INto the wrong hands lol

[fast pagoda]

because it's p decent at it and bad actors will do it anyways

[fast pagoda]

echo uses about 18gb at q8 as a 27b

not a very big context window set right now tho (discord chat use lule) and i think i have a couple layers not in vram cuz idc if he's doing 30 t/s or 10 or w/e

bf16 i could manage to somehow use like 145 gb of memory offloading all 62 layers to vram and 132k context window

but that's full context being most of the mem tho

31.67 gigs with a normal context for somethign like chat (4k) little more for 8k on a 27b q8

idk why im saying this cuz i thought you were asking for some stupid reason lmfao

[sage crag]

topipoprrr

[azure lynx]

one day someone might search it ;]

[nocturne olive]

Well you unfortunately got the wrong 4060Ti
The 4060Ti is supposed to have 16GB memory

[azure lynx]

coz there aren't enough trained people to do it.
and once the tools exist you might want to know if you're vulnerable to them.

this is already on github.

i think it's great that Neuro is going to be doing something else with her career....

[kind nimbus]

Idk imo humans can still do it much better especially since they can see the full picture

[azure lynx]

i think there is no reason AI couldn't do it better than a person except that AIs have a problem with either staying on task or task switching. or both.

[sage crag]

does anyone have the windows ai meme with all of the broken updates

[azure lynx]

AIs could check code a lot faster than a person if they were shown the right patterns, i would have thought. but it seems because they were trained on humans they currently can't do any better than that.

you can't teach an AI to think better than you can imagine.

[azure lynx]

security checking is largely reading the same code over and over again looking at it in different ways. (That is, once you've identified somewhere of interest. that's largely reading the code once.)

[olive sable]

What?

[sick owl]

Tin foil hat time chat

[jagged turtle]

Sam and Teto are opposites

[sick owl]

I think big tech corpos are engaging in malicious compliance with the online safety bill to punish the UK government for the first major piece of legislation to stand up to them

[azure lynx]

conspiracy theory: Sam and Teto are different people...

[olive sable]

Nah its sick. I made a game about cats pissing to steal territory today

[sick owl]

Valve verify your age with a £1 charge to your payment method that's then refunded and that's deemed compliant with the law

I think this face/ID estimation stuff is both a grab for data and an insidious PR move

[olive sable]

Its called uri-nation. And its a masterpiece

[azure lynx]

not to be confused with yuri-nation, a social networking app for...

[jagged turtle]

if this is true I would really welcome it so long as no one is harmed

[jagged turtle]

oh. oh god.

oh no.

I can already see what you are going to talk about...

[sick owl]

That's cutting off your nose to spite your face

People are absolutely harmed

Just look at the Persona scandal

[jagged turtle]

that's the thing

you can't really do it

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mihono-bourbon-uma-musume-gif-27600320

i am ears

[olive sable]

For yuri?

Thats peak tho

Sign me up

[hallow dagger]

[sage crag]

for dating obviously

[sick owl]

Point is valve proves you can do it harmlessly

These companies are choosing not to

[nocturne olive]

TET mentioned !! ??

[olive sable]

Oh

Bwaa

Thats not fun or cool

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/my-jolly-reaction-jolly-my-honest-reaction-gif-5490890317762380451

why not

[jagged turtle]

I was more talking about the face ID part, where they are trying to get government actors' IDs to have a taste of their own medicine

[sick owl]

I think you misread my post then

[olive sable]

Cuz then id have to go outside

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1456314197993459712/SPOILER_NeuroNewYearCute5.gif

[amber fractal]

[jagged turtle]

ah

wouldn't be surprised

[sage crag]

<-

[olive sable]

Also i highly doubt id be allowed on a dating app for yuri

Im kinda not a woman

[azure lynx]

it's snowing/has snowed recently in a non-trivial portion of the world. statistically it's possible you would be cruel to send someone outside in weather like this.

[amber fractal]

so I should be going outside

Still not woman

[olive sable]

I go outside enough when going to school

[jagged turtle]

what the fuck is the point of this

[azure lynx]

is that voice chat channels?

[jagged turtle]

GDM VC yea

and that's everyone in the call

[amber fractal]

vibing together, at least from my understanding. I unforantly have exprince in groups that do this

[azure lynx]

maybe they're all playing a game without a vc in the game

like minecraft?

[jagged turtle]

they're all deafened so they can't talk to each other anyways

[azure lynx]

dinner time?

[jagged turtle]

it's almost 10pm here I sure hope not

[azure lynx]

it's not that time everywhere

[amber fractal]

This feels like sleep on call type of call to me

[jagged turtle]

I know them IRL because they live in my city

well, roughly

[azure lynx]

should go in chat and ask. break the vibe

[amber fractal]

true

[jagged turtle]

they're all yapping now so they broke the vibe themselves

plus when they were doing that I was grinding minecraft

[azure lynx]

maybe they all said something like "ok, bathroom break... meet back in 5 mins" or whatever

[jagged turtle]

no they were like that for an hour

long ass bathroom break if so

[azure lynx]

maybe they don't know how to leave vc

[jagged turtle]

would be funny if true

[azure lynx]

i think the funniest integration anyone could make with the neuro SDK would be fortnite.
[mostly funny because of the technical reasons why it's a bad idea]

it wouldn't be impossible. just really stupid.

and if she could actually play it wouldn't really be her playing because of all the layers in the middle.

[nocturne olive]

The anticheat in question

[azure lynx]

it would also be funny on the "bot accusation" front.

it's not cheating. it's using accessibility exemptions so Neuro can interoperate in spite of the disability of not having a body,

ooo... hook up a robot to a gamepad

[nocturne olive]

I think using automation would count as cheating
At least according to the anticheat which is literally malware

[azure lynx]

maybe they'll be friends and want to play together

it'd probably have to be a "we've got fortnite at home" bot then.

[cosmic sphinx]

ai models embedded into hardware actually looks interesting

https://taalas.com/the-path-to-ubiquitous-ai/

17K tokens per second is crazy work

[maiden geyser]

holy bolt graphics zeus

[rough bloom]

Llama-3.1 8B only

cool PoC

[cosmic sphinx]

the problem of it is that it requires a unique chip for every unique model

but its worth it for the speed/efficiency boost given

especially for robotics purposes

i'd be surprised if no big pro-AI corpo buys out this technology by this summer

[rough bloom]

for now I think models are still evolving too rapidly
and I'm also not sure how well this scales, models can have 1T+ parameters, they've only demonstrated 8B so far

mabe worth it at like OpenAI or Google scale though

especially if they have to keep it available for a long time

[cosmic sphinx]

first mid-scale CoT model coming spring
'frontier' model by winter

weird timeline considering they claim it takes about 60 days to build a unique chip

[real sierra]

programming is such a weird job

[fickle rain]

IDK bro more malware devs should sell me Caselabs STH10s then

[real sierra]

I feel like it's unusually accessible given the skills and aptitudes it demands

[fickle rain]

And give banger book recs too

[opaque wharf]

Even with such ease of material to access, look at the state of the software world. SaaS, Live Service, and AI shoved everywhere

[maiden geyser]

Kojima must have predicted this somewhere

[real sierra]

hiii uncomputable

[opaque wharf]

Hi shiro!

[sage crag]

27 million grains of salt

[rigid snow]

yummy

what do you mean it's 5 pm i just woke up

[opaque wharf]

How big is each grain?

[rigid snow]

~300 micrometers in diameter

[hallow dagger]

hi

[sage crag]

about 1 grain

[real sierra]

average FPS community

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421861060507602944/1425936142754123927/neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf.webp

shmo

[real sierra]

bwaani

always good to see you

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/comfy-karen-rolling-on-the-floor-happy-gif-14251269

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

yeye

it ayaya

gif name karen

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

<- brand emoji

pleas use

[real sierra]

I actually do avoid using off brand emoji to some extent here

specifically I don't usually use any other vtubers' emojis here

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

only generic emotes and neuro emotes

[sage crag]

moderator freedom

inhibited

[real sierra]

nah it's nothing like that

I just want to respect neuro's home

[sage crag]

vedal.ai work conditions

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

no union

shmo you need to aid the rising of the proletariat

[real sierra]

tried unionizing once

2024 subberthon

but admins said we get fired if union

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

<- admin

pbglorp

[sturdy crow]

[hallow dagger]

[olive sable]

cerby

[olive sable]

I tried watching that anime but it waspretty generic

Yoko, shinobu ni, aya yo
Ayaya?
Ayaya

[rigid snow]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[opaque wharf]

AAAAAAAAAAAA

[hallow dagger]

-# a

[real sierra]

yaya

[warped narwhal]

A
Yaya

[opaque wharf]

#programming when all the devs have given up and started to schizoing

[warped narwhal]

Since when has programming not been at least 63%

[opaque wharf]

I wouldn't count the occasional horrible idea schizo. Unhinged and deranged like SIGBOVIK sure, but not schizo

[dark wing]

[opaque wharf]

Eeyyy, we have a and t

So we have at&t

[lime stag]

be me

[lime stag]

have coursework about making beauty's products catalog product
proceed to make database for it
made a scrapper
tried scrapper
failed
tried scrapper on reddit
work
site filled with reddit post that have nothing to do with beauty products

[warped narwhal]

If you scraped Reddit, your lucky you didn't get a shit ton of slurs sprinkled throughout

[opaque wharf]

I made a scrapper and then just regex the data to categorize it. It works 70% of the time for electronic components

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mihono-bourbon-uma-musume-gif-27600320

[obsidian mantle]

if i create new github repository and choose c++ as gitignore template

will it ignore c++ files

what i i want it to ignore everything excep c++?

[opaque sigil]

it ignores files you'd commonly want to ignore in c++ projects

[obsidian mantle]

are these templates shit and you usually edit them by hand anyway

[opaque sigil]

like yknow, build artifacts

[obsidian mantle]

ooh

[opaque sigil]

i never use them tbf

[obsidian mantle]

i will have build and xmake and other shit so i'll need it

i guess its editable later anyway

[opaque sigil]

any self-respecting build system will ignore its build folders automatically

i say that but i still add it manually out of habit

[warped narwhal]

Laughs in in-tree builds

[opaque sigil]

[fickle rain]

Xmake has automatic gitignore (that doesn’t include things like IDE stuff tho, so you have to add VS/compile commands/whatever else there separately

[sick owl]

Watching all the people finally realising why installing that vibe coded behemoth is a bad idea is very funny

[olive sable]

Actually lemme remove the links first

2nd attempt

Any of these a good deal?

[opaque wharf]

Are you selling or buying from those list?

[olive sable]

buying

potentially

[opaque wharf]

To make a 2nd PC or upgrade your current one? Because I think your CPU is not that old right?

[olive sable]

5950x
its not bad for now ye

[opaque wharf]

No, I don't think any of the components listed is a good deal

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

If you need something like elgato, it's better to purchase a touchscreen portable monitor

Oh wait, elgato is not the stream deck

[olive sable]

i think for an elgato style thing id jsut get a pi

[opaque wharf]

Yeah

[olive sable]

its this thing

i dont really want that one, it was more about the first 2

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, I searched it too and realizes its not the stream deck thingy lol. If you're not doing professional audio then it's just wasted potential

Why wold you need a new PC case

What is you current case anyway?

[olive sable]

2nd pc

[olive sable]

some corsair 3000D or so

[opaque wharf]

Ahh, then that changes things. If you wanted to built a 2nd PC, I think the case could be worth it if you could negotiate for a lower price, say 35-40

You could also consult our almighty deal hunter @true hemlock

[olive sable]

i dont have a big need for a 2nd pc

but i wanted a pc in the theatre room

cuz we wanted to play pc game son the big screen, and my laptop is weak

[opaque wharf]

The gabe cube can't release soon enough

[olive sable]

gabecube would get 4060-ish performance supposedly

for 1K i can get a pc with a 3090

well, maybe not anymore with ram prices

1.3K for pc with 3090, 32gb ram, 11900k

thats kinda shit ngl

the workd is healing even worse

[fickle rain]

I mean at least 11900K isn’t Skylake

[olive sable]

id rather have a 14900k than an 11900k

just need up-to-date bios

[opaque sigil]

director of safety and alignment at meta btw

[maiden geyser]

no avx512 though

[opaque sigil]

may as well not be an advertised feature

[olive sable]

im pretty sure the 14900k will beat the 11900k via pure power even without avx512

[opaque wharf]

Sam, pick a random hex color

[olive sable]

uh

how long are those again?

[opaque wharf]

6 char

[olive sable]

624891

[sage crag]

ABCDEF

[opaque wharf]

[sage crag]

[opaque wharf]

Hmmm

This is ABCDEF

[olive sable]

cool i guess

[opaque wharf]

I don't know which one I like better tbh

Too many options to choose from and not being a designer

[fiery anchor]

does that level of playfulness match the Brand?

[opaque wharf]

Yes

I'm making open-source software so there's not really any restriction

[sick owl]

So since it happens anyway we should join those Chinese labs in publishing open science and releasing model weights right

[opaque wharf]

Yet they won't admit that they used stolen data for their own training

"At a certain scale, sifting throught it becomes impossible" Yes, the labs also thinks that at a certain scale it is easier to distill. Cry about it lol

[maiden geyser]

surely something will happen

[fickle rain]

Nothing ever happens

[kind nimbus]

Thank God protonmail has no API lol

[kind nimbus]

I kinda wish my 275HX had AVX512

[signal trout]

bird

[strong pumice]

do you have it

chat

[true hemlock]

buy my 14900HX modt

trust

[midnight sigil]

niko

https://tenor.com/view/niko-g2-g2esports-csgo-counterstrike-gif-18981477

[quick condor]

There's a reason I poked at it for a couple hours before dumping it. Hard coded system prompts, lazy tool instructions and an over reliance on the model to figure out poorly structured instructions

[dawn vale]

Doing a Kotlin course and this solution just feels cursed

[opaque sigil]

now make it nand only

[sick owl]

No shot

Its crazy how fast Meta went from darling of the AI world to a complete joke

[rigid snow]

turns out it was not fixed

it's just that breeze has different colors which this issue does not occur with

though no, this is way more apparent than what i have

but it's still there

it also depends on what colors primarily are on the screen??!?>

what the fuck is this bug

i remember seeing it exclusively on wayland in 2021

the stripes the stripes

THE COMPRESSION KILLS IT

WHAT THE FUCK

HOW DO I SHOW

[true hemlock]

made the trade

even bundled it with adapter damn

i bundled a 1tb hdd and some other freebies for bro though

[olive sable]

im running on a 5950x so i also dont have it lol

[true hemlock]

rocket lake AVX512 implementation is shit

even 12900k with avx 256 and e cores disabled beats it

[olive sable]

[true hemlock]

if you want proper AVX512 am5 best

hascrack don't you start with the shitty cascade lake

i don't consider the AVX512 implementation on them a proper one either.

[opaque wharf]

Waiting until AVX1024 gets released

[quick condor]

I mean I've been surprisingly happy with how well cascade lake (10900x) handles avx512. It's definitely better than not having it when I have to run Hessian matricies on cpu due to otherwise ooming

[true hemlock]

i find it absurd that intel's AVX512 implementation is so shit

[quick condor]

True

[true hemlock]

ramping up even the AVX512 on a 10900X only gets it the same exact performance to a 10900K without AVX512

[quick condor]

I had substantially worse performance with it disabled

[true hemlock]

means its worse than 10900K

at the very least it has more pcie lanes

[quick condor]

10900k would still be worse performance for me

Not enough pcie lanes

[true hemlock]

but that's about it i'd still call it workstation cosplaying chip

[quick condor]

Oh 100% it's not a xeon w

[true hemlock]

both X and XE intel has been feeling more of still in the consumer range just for people that are willing to spend more for workstation-like features

honestly i really wished that PCIe switches were more common and affordable.

[quick condor]

Fun fact:the p2p fast path is incredibly unstable on the 10900x. If you hit it too hard with rapid high bandwidth transfers without bumping the core voltage slightly up it will hard fault

[true hemlock]

having to bump up core voltage for more stability on I/O related lanes is wild.

[quick condor]

It was an afterthought for cascade lake to even support it. And yah it's wild... Was a PITA to diagnose

Like why would I think that it's the I/O lane on the cpu that isn't even really doing anything causing it

[true hemlock]

and i thought old amd was worse

idk what changed ever since they started ryzen lineups

3900x launched few months before 10900x yet fairly easily outperformed it

[amber fractal]

Feels like intel was full of attempts for future things that didn't pan out rather than a stable base.

[true hemlock]

i really like to call the x and xe lineups "pseudo-workstation" for a reason

Christ

3900x still beats 10900XE (18c 36t)

going up from 10 to 18 cores doesn't save it 😭

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

when it is even decking all of consumer 11th gen intel, you know something is happening

Not even the 11th gen i9 beats it

[true hemlock]

my 10700 gets beaten by 3600x

[amber fractal]

as usual, not in this race

everyone's rigs is better than my own as long as it isn't a laptop

[true hemlock]

3950x exists apparently

somehow i've never heard of it

[amber fractal]

Okay that was wrong

[quick condor]

I only got the 10900x because I had a 7820x and needed more pcie lanes. There really wasn't any other option that would come close to the price/performance of $175 for more pcie and maintaining the 8 dimm capacity

[amber fractal]

I'm only a bit below the 3600x

blame the cinabench enhancers

[quick condor]

As much of a pita as it was to get working, I can't complain too much about hitting 14GiB/s on all reduce across pcie 3.0 x16

[true hemlock]

right, the high end lga 1700 chipset gives you pcie 5.0 and most can do bifurcation

its just unfortunate that pcie switches that takes in 5.0 and outputs 4 times the lane of 3.0 is rare as fuck

but x16 to 4* x4 are pretty common

in theory if done right x16 5.0 can be used as 4* x16 3.0

[quick condor]

Yah the cost is the main factor, that and not having a mess of cables hanging out the back of my PC, multiple PSUs etc

[true hemlock]

cables is just physical management issues tbh

also you don't need multi psu unless if somehow you wanted even more gpu

oh and

high end lga1700 chipset has x8 4.0 acting as DMI

if you wanted continuous bandwidth that's like extra x16 3.0

if you don't necessarily need it to be continuous, via southbridge that's basically 2 more x16 3.0

[quick condor]

I would love more Gpus but tbh I'm able to make do as is

for reference

[fast pagoda]

currently winning (will lose i assume) auctions on 168tb of storage

inb4 somehow win too many and die via drowning in hard drives

[opaque wharf]

Bro, what tf do you need that much storage for

[quick condor]

Ewww hdds

[fast pagoda]

well im trying to win ~20-36 tb ish

[opaque wharf]

Ohh, I thought you were trying to buy the whole 168 tb lol

[patent shard]

I miss the $285 26tb exos drives

[fast pagoda]

i already have about 16tb of nvme i've ran out of slots on mobos but i do have several pci-e adapters

i should replace some 1tb ones

[true hemlock]

have shit loads of small capacities of them btw

[fast pagoda]

my mini and my regular pc are sitting at 46tb between them but they are not supposed to be most of my storage

so i need more to fill up drive cage

[true hemlock]

for the prices i'd rather hdd than sata ssd

[fast pagoda]

one of my hdd is a $240 24tb exos

had to get that one instead for the even $10/tb

[amber fractal]

one grabs ssd for speed, sata is not known for speed

[true hemlock]

sweet spot

[fast pagoda]

the ones im bidding on right now are in the range of $4.50-$5.50/tb

[quick condor]

Just sitting on my desk

[patent shard]

better times

[true hemlock]

im still flabbergasted over sata being a downclocked pcie x1 3.0

its just a single pair of ± send and ± recv on its interface

[fast pagoda]

that b key ngff blank drive ended up being configured for up to 512 or 1tb of nand depending on the particular modules but they were b27b micron shaped

and that controller online is only in like 2.5 inch ssds ive seen

[amber fractal]

but [REDACTED] claimed the drive was pci gen 3x2

[fast pagoda]

i actually bitched at temu for a while sending them that shit about the blank drive and the seller's account is gone now kekw

itll appear again soon enough surely but

they also refunded it instantly instead of waiting for return and gave me $15 credit so i guess it was worth

+$15

got to fart around with a blank ngff

[true hemlock]

😭

[amber fractal]

costs -15$

[true hemlock]

ya tellin me this ain't just x1

[quick condor]

Buying temu drives in the first place is wild

[fast pagoda]

everything ends up being pcie at the end of the day

[fast pagoda]

i knew it would be fake but i wanted to see in what way

[true hemlock]

damn temu being surprisingly helpful

i'd probably start doing that on all the scammy 8-16TB sold for $3

[fast pagoda]

im thinking of going on a crusade tbh

[true hemlock]

even getting 8GB for $3 isn't worth

because that's what usually literally in the 8-16TB ssds sold in temu

[amber fractal]

buyback farming

infinite credit glitch (real)

[quick condor]

Yah sata is basic af

[true hemlock]

for $3 i'd already expect 64GB for an SSD ngl

[fast pagoda]

i have several legitimate nvme (fanxiang and kingspec, discount chinese oems basically but they are official stores and real drives), dramless but decent capacity $80 for 2tb even recently

fanxiang being the most "legitimate" of the 3 imo, even tho kingspec has been around the block a while now, they were around before nvme was a thing, they just love swapping shit around for fun

[fast pagoda]

🥀

[olive sable]

even i dont have shi like this lying around

[true hemlock]

look

i fucking hate sata for being absolute e waste

[fast pagoda]

im waiting on 2 9300-8i raid cards rn

for fun

[true hemlock]

but even i don't disassemble sata cables

[fast pagoda]

they were $10

[olive sable]

sata is okay-ish.
hard drives use it and its faster than usb2.0

[fast pagoda]

sata is a ragged dog but it's also overkill for spinning rust anyways even so

same as sas

although sas goes to 12Gbps

[true hemlock]

only reason i like my sata is because i can plug a hdd in it

and i like em hdd capacities

fuck sata ssd lol

[fast pagoda]

i like sas because of the way that the cable multiplies

[true hemlock]

sas my beloved.

[quick condor]

SAS 12 is great

[fast pagoda]

need to find pci-e slots for these but i think i can use a shim sham flim flam extendomatic adapter off a m.2 slot for mega scuff

[fast pagoda]

but how many dollarydoos was this unit (i'd pay $30-40)

[quick condor]

Free?

[fast pagoda]

that's a good price

[true hemlock]

fairly easy to get 900GB sas drives for free tbh

[fast pagoda]

i dont walk past my local dc's dumpster often enough unfortunately

[true hemlock]

imagine wanting to pay $30 for such stuff

[quick condor]

900Gb SAS PM1633a though?

[true hemlock]

yes

[fast pagoda]

hey there's a reason i dont pay 30 for them

and that reason is

900 mb/s maybe

seems pointless when you can just get rusty

[true hemlock]

though i don't want a low capacity sas ssd

pointless fuck of an e waste

[fast pagoda]

when you can grab spinny spinny for 5 bux a tb for mass storage and you can grab anything else for more throughput for not very much or free yea

i like seeing them listed for like $3500 for no reason though

i wonder who pays

[olive sable]

900gb drive is like 20 bucks

16TB is 230

[fast pagoda]

for spinnerS? that's expensive

[true hemlock]

900gb worth only $10 imo

[olive sable]

if you're getting it brand-new, ye

[true hemlock]

16TB spinners is worth not more than $180

[fast pagoda]

10/tb is fine new

but if im anywhere near 200+ i want 20 tb+

which is still that

but yeah

[true hemlock]

1TB new consumer drives be overpriced rn

lol

[fast pagoda]

you know what's overpriced is

8tb-16tb

spin

comically overpriced imo

even for consumer tier drives

they want like $200 for 8tb at microcenter

it's insane

HUH

[true hemlock]

god fuck. 16TB new is like $380 here

consumer tier btw

[fast pagoda]

i mean at least theyre cmr but that's literally the bare minimum

horrible

[olive sable]

8TB?
when i was lookign though hard drives i was considering the 16TB one for 250 roughly

[fast pagoda]

look now

it's gone up

at least here

it used to be more reasonable-ish

[olive sable]

i got a Seagate Exos X18 now for 230

[true hemlock]

24TB for $473 new... wtf

how are these so overpriced

[fast pagoda]

no idea

[true hemlock]

$20 per tb is way outside the sweet spot and i hate it.

[fast pagoda]

yeah i am seeing that for those but idk what size of x18 you're talking about

[lament igloo]

i thought thats the correct prices

[quick condor]

No

[lament igloo]

dude u always get the best prices wth

[fast pagoda]

$10/tb is fine for spin

that's the sweet spot

[true hemlock]

$10 per tb is sweet spot

$5 per tb is great

[fast pagoda]

5/tb or less for used

[lament igloo]

what is this then

[fast pagoda]

garbage overpriced sponsored results mostly

what the helly is shoppee

[true hemlock]

shopee

[fast pagoda]

singapore online store interesting

[lament igloo]

ok im stepping out of sponsored shit and it gets worse

[fast pagoda]

you can't look at goggle really for this

[lament igloo]

:< what store then

[unkempt citrus]

pc part picker

[fast pagoda]

i mean you can use any store you just have to be patient for sales

if you want new

[opaque wharf]

Unfortunately we don't really use ebay or amazon here at SEA

[fast pagoda]

liek i got $240 for 24 tb at best buy

new

[unkempt citrus]

tho they don't have phillipines

[true hemlock]

ima ngl pcpp is pretty shit at finding such deals

[lament igloo]

true

[fast pagoda]

i think it can randomly find decent obscure sales

but it is not reliable or authoritative

[lament igloo]

lazada in my country

i got scammed by shoppee once

[olive sable]

16tb

[opaque wharf]

Bruh, how? Aren't they providing escrow service?

[lament igloo]

2tb external drive but the inside is just a 16gb chip and a material that increases weight

[fast pagoda]

i searched shopee and i found nothing but pure vitriol so

[true hemlock]

god fuck best buy is US only

[unkempt citrus]

Yeah but its better than google

[true hemlock]

[opaque wharf]

Classic

[unkempt citrus]

and better organised too

[fast pagoda]

this is kinda what i expected the temu drive to be and it wasn't, i was sad

[true hemlock]

that's entirely on ya lmao

[lament igloo]

that was like years ago, i changed 🥀

[opaque wharf]

At least tokopedia allows return. Idk how their policy is now tho since they are bought by tiktok of all things

[fast pagoda]

i mean they wrote their destiny their name starts with tok

[olive sable]

"file system" is a 2tb nvme, besides these i also have a 2tb windows nvme that doesnt show up here

[true hemlock]

tokopedia is mainly indonesian

[olive sable]

linux 200gb ssd is my old cachyos

[true hemlock]

though i know who exactly sells reliable used GPUs in there

[true hemlock]

and i can testify directly since he lives in my home town

[fast pagoda]

the scam unit reported as "SSD 2TB" with a worldwide name of 0000000000000000

[lament igloo]

similarly, my mother also got scammed on shoppee
she bought a "2tb usb drive" but it was only 16gb instead and it was fully metal

luckily, she got her refund aaand NO RETURN

[fast pagoda]

is it you

[opaque wharf]

Well yeah, because we can't really compete in the tech market. Our government doesn't really understand tech business

[true hemlock]

oh i fucking wish honestly

[olive sable]

ok sure but my 2tb nvmes are official samsung and sandisk drives

[fast pagoda]

when male frog to sell gpu instead of buy

[true hemlock]

bro has access to the kind of distribution i don't

[lament igloo]

i get to own the fake drive and honestly, its a good 16gb drive
D: and F: is the fake usb drive

[fast pagoda]

earlier today i saw a 9100 8tb listed for some absolutely comical price, what the fuck happened to those

it was like $1000+

[true hemlock]

ew

[lament igloo]

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

[opaque wharf]

I do have access to the distributor store too. But I don't have the money to buy them still

[olive sable]

😭 the 3090s are back to 700 bucks rn.
the period they were 400 for a week is so over.
we're all doomed

[lament igloo]

😭

[true hemlock]

rip

i got mine for $400 but well

[fast pagoda]

unit of currency: pachinko ball

[true hemlock]

what are you rockin rn

vs what do you want

[opaque wharf]

Asus UM325 I just want a GPU to play around with man

I do have a PC with 1050ti

But rarely used it due to how frequent I moved place

[true hemlock]

im still really wondering with the mentality of indonesians preferring laptops over pcs even if the laptop stays at home all the time.

[opaque wharf]

Nah, I don't stay at home. That's the problem

[fast pagoda]

28tb seagate x24s are $330 rn, not the worst ever but

[true hemlock]

not talking about ya lol

dw

[fast pagoda]

space?

idk how it is there

[true hemlock]

housing are dirt cheap

compared to like

[fast pagoda]

but is wage dirt cheap

[true hemlock]

developed countries

but yeah

wages are also dirt cheap

[opaque wharf]

Well, PC doesn't take up much space either

[true hemlock]

[fast pagoda]

lolol

[true hemlock]

though the wages to housing cost ratio isn't as bad as most places

[opaque wharf]

Yeah

[true hemlock]

$10K could already get you decent housing

[fast pagoda]

$11.78/tb for a new x24 28tb

not the best not the worst

[true hemlock]

$30-40K at least for decent housing in city areas

[lament igloo]

on the topic of usb drives, wanna see some custom ones that i find interesting?

[opaque wharf]

Mostly because land is not being developed like crazy here. And not many people invest in land/house

[true hemlock]

why

[fast pagoda]

insert this into an atm and you get picked up for debtor's prison immediately

[lament igloo]

why not

[fast pagoda]

usb 2.0

should be illegal

for a storage device

for environmental violations

if nothing else

[opaque wharf]

I prefer to make my own if I were ordering custom anyway. Make the KiCAD and send it to JLC

[fast pagoda]

also for offending the public good

[lament igloo]

whuh

whats ur beef with that 😭

[fast pagoda]

manufacturing pure ewaste

[true hemlock]

e waste.

[fast pagoda]

they would max out at 35 mb/s

at best

[true hemlock]

usb 2 are only for low bandwidth peripherals like mouse and keyboard.

anything other than that i would just call usb 2.0 as e waste

[lament igloo]

dang, i find these kinda cool tho :((

[fast pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

i mean i guess i have a usb4 cable on my keychain

i cant talk that much but at least i use it to charge my phone whenevr

[lament igloo]

anyways, here's something cool

[fast pagoda]

why do they make an 8gb

[true hemlock]

also overpriced for 8gb lol

[lament igloo]

what do u expect from a third world online store

[fast pagoda]

temu is basically that

[fast pagoda]

so whatever is on temu is what i expect i guess

[lament igloo]

what the fuck is this

[fast pagoda]

i think most of that stuff is honestly floating around temu

so i am not that surprised

but also it's just landfill material basically after a point

[true hemlock]

god fuck

its also overpriced here

$40 for 256GB usb

[fast pagoda]

3.2 at least?

[true hemlock]

oh i found a 256GB usb 3.2 for $18

[fast pagoda]

yeah but at least that would somewhat explain the price

[true hemlock]

3.1

[fast pagoda]

depending on the drive still decent enough for a flash drive for most things, it'll fill itself fast enough since it's only 256gb

if it's one big file a few mins

[true hemlock]

https://amzn.asia/d/0973Qcio this is sus

$24 for 512GB ig

[fast pagoda]

i liek going on scamazon and searching by highest price

to see the random dogshit floating around at maximum price for no reason

[true hemlock]

lmao

[true hemlock]

this might be potentially a firmware scam

[fast pagoda]

this isn't a bad price for what it is tbh but the listing spelling doesn't give confidence

[true hemlock]

i might wanna try buying and see it for myself lol

[fast pagoda]

microcenter here gave me a 128gb usb stick for free last time i went in there

idk why they do that but they do

[true hemlock]

https://amzn.asia/d/0i8KWsHq
yeah, very sus

2tb for also $24

[unkempt citrus]

The high capacity cheap shit is usally fake

[true hemlock]

2tb isn't high

[fast pagoda]

ya what is high capacity

[true hemlock]

but i'd already suspected this is sorta a scam

because usb drives are generally overpriced anyway

though since its Amazon

[unkempt citrus]

for a USB it kinda is

[fast pagoda]

buy one(1) item at your local microcenter

free

[true hemlock]

i wanna try buying a bunch of it and see if i hit at least one legitimate one and return the rest

[fast pagoda]

usb 3.1 i think this is

nope

3.0

[true hemlock]

man

why are the phone usb ports still slow as fuck

[fast pagoda]

mine is not that bad, it does 1gbps at least because that's the fastest thing ive ran a test with on it

[true hemlock]

damn

i gotta try on my new xiaomi 15T though

fuck it

[unkempt citrus]

Because how many people actually do large data transfers over USB with phones

Its mostly cloud these days

[fast pagoda]

🥀

oh yeah i was getting strange looks earlier today looking at the OG cloud

[true hemlock]

"its mostly cloud"
why do people really like cloudslop nowdays man

[true hemlock]

i hate especially apple ones

overpriced as hell

like

[fast pagoda]

my dad and i were going around to the long lines microwave backhaul towers that are still up

to go like

yep that's a big ol microwave tower

[true hemlock]

i could literally get the same capacity SSD for their plan for one month of their cost

[fast pagoda]

not worth it to tear these down so they just sit there

up till the late 80s these are the carriers for p much any long distance call at some point and a lot of network tv and such

https://telephoneworld.org/long-distance-companies/att-long-distance-network/history-of-att-long-lines/ fun rabbit hole if similar things were used near you because otherwise for me it was "wtf are those horns//giant trapezoid for"

idk if they saw much use out of the US or not because i didnt look but i imagine they saw something

[true hemlock]

also have you seen the ddr5 sodimm i got for trading my ddr4 udimm away

[fast pagoda]

no but i almost randomly got a couple sodimm -> DIMM adapters the other day but forgot to

if you send it to me i will use it to test :^)

[true hemlock]

smh