programming

[olive sable]

i dont have the time for that bruh

[opaque wharf]

And then their shared home should share a common trait

Maybe color, maybe the nr. of dots

[olive sable]

sorthing by colour already took 38 hours over the course of 3 years

[opaque wharf]

I need automatic sorting system irl

So I can just place order and the drawers are moved to me

And when I am done, the qr code/rfid tag would place it where it belongs again

I wonder how much it'll cost me

Hmmm, used motor (775 style) with encoder cost 1 USD. That's pretty cheap

It's CAD time

[fleet jungle]

niiice desk

I want such a big desk

only desk I have ATM is cluttered by paperwork

[opaque wharf]

That desk is not big enough for me. I want to expand it so it spans the whole room with added corner

[fleet jungle]

what kind of electronics do you work with?

[opaque wharf]

Embedded system for automation stuff

Sometimes there's robotics but it's quite rare

[fleet jungle]

I need a heating plate or oven for SMDs 😩

[fleet jungle]

oh cool

it's a bit vague tho

[opaque wharf]

Oven is better in the long run IMHO if you wanted to mass solder a board. Add some DIY PnP and you're golden

[opaque wharf]

Well, it's just that I work for a contractor company now. So I change place every so often, currently working on agriculture stuff

[fleet jungle]

ah

[fleet jungle]

yeah I tried manually maneuvering a typical direct-to-wall-plug soldering iron with an SMD and a 16x handheld magnifier and that was hectic

too bad I didn't get anywhere with it

[opaque wharf]

Well, it does takes a lot of practice for mastering it. I can do 0402 no problem with standard conical tips and direct-to-wall-plug soldering iron

I used to be able to do that without aid during my uni days, but now I need microscope

[fleet jungle]

oh

that makes me feel old

[hard raptor]

don't you love it when the discord server stats page is down?

[jagged turtle]

lmao

[fleet jungle]

atlassian

[hard raptor]

this is just plain cursed

[jagged turtle]

💀

[hard raptor]

i can't find good hytale plugins that are up to date written in kotlin

at least.. none that aren't just libraries

but i guess my reasons for preffering kotlin over java made kotlin obsolete when java 25 came out

i tried writing completely from scratch

but the UI system is a bit annoying

so i am mostly just looking for multiple working examples

if only there was a rust based API for Hytale plugins lmao

[jagged turtle]

what happened in jv 25?

[hard raptor]

they added functions/procedures.. which is still technically just an abstraction of

class Meow {
  public static void main(String[] args) {
    System.out.println("Hello World");
  }
}

but it can be written as

void main() {
    IO.println("Hello World");
}

[opaque wharf]

Classic Java. Everything must be a class

[hard raptor]

as someone mostly working with C and Rust.. the new syntax is way more readable

Me: Excited i found the better map plugin..
looks inside
Me "Awwww it used maven :("

not the end of the world though

[nocturne olive]

Funny
I'd rather Kotlin

[rare bramble]

I will never get over the .equals() in Java

I would literally rather have a post processing script that converts all == to .equals()

[dry charm]

I love how JAva is implementing things from Groovy/Kotlin others

honestly makes java more and more usable

lowkey wanna abandon Kotlin due to the very shit LSP experience

[rigid snow]

||isn't that the same name and avatar as the ban evader from yesterday||

[hard raptor]

Whut?

[rigid snow]

here

the hearts are the reactions from that account

[rough bloom]

[hard raptor]

yeh no

that shouldn't be accepted as a reason to not ban you again

[faint sandal]

?

[nocturne olive]

Average new user in #programming

[faint sandal]

they're ban evading

not new

[nocturne olive]

Oh I see

[amber fractal]

tbf no chatter comes in knowing who shiro is, much less ping responding a mod

[mossy fossil]

oh hey, it's the guys who sponsor Williams

[olive sable]

[faint sandal]

https://tenor.com/bZQRy.gif

[amber fractal]

I thought that gif was going to eat the camera

[faint sandal]

maybe he did after the gif

you don't know that

[olive sable]

in advance

[faint sandal]

hi advance

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

discord error message

what does it mean?

[faint sandal]

me when Expected or after array element in JSON at position 963250
(line 1 column 963251)

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

Invalid JSON passed

[olive sable]

not my fault

idk what json its even trying to use

[nocturne olive]

I don't know maybe the Discord API returned an incomplete response

[opaque wharf]

It means you need to touch grass

[fleet jungle]

how on earth did you get that

[olive sable]

i opened #programming

and then it crashed

[fleet jungle]

that's amazing that it wasn't some vague error

[nocturne olive]

Mabe Discord API tried to return a bunch of messages but then only sent part of the JSON

[olive sable]

that is a vague error.

what am i suppsoed to do with that?

[fleet jungle]

looks like you encountered a developer level error

yeah but it's heaps better than "oopsy woopsy"

[opaque wharf]

Eat cookie

[stiff mica]

🍪 Om nom nom
You've given me 3 cookies! | I've received 276466 cookies total!

[olive sable]

i have dev mode on

wso it might be cuz of that

[opaque wharf]

That explains the non vague error

[fleet jungle]

as in something that only discord Devs should be encountering

[fleet jungle]

oh then maybe that's why

[olive sable]

i think errors in general shouldnt be encountered

[opaque wharf]

Yeah? Try giving negative input to uint parser

Users can and will do something unbelievable

[fleet jungle]

lol

what unit parser are you referring to?

unit? dumb keyboard

[opaque wharf]

A simple JS Number.parseInt("hey"). Since the web input box may accept arbitrary data

[fleet jungle]

ah thought you meant like an interface element on discord that doesn't sanitize

[jagged turtle]

amazing

[opaque wharf]

That is the sanitization. If the returned value is not a safe Int then that is an error on the input part. So show the user that they are being stupid

[fleet jungle]

wow that's a lot of lines

like A LOT of lines

just realised

[fleet jungle]

oh

[maiden geyser]

line 1 column 963251
"10 bytes saved doe"

[tender river]

10

[opaque wharf]

The funny thing about JSON right now is that we started using JSON Schema

[tender river]

id wager its closer to 500kb

or more actually

[opaque wharf]

That means all of those serialize-deserialize to human readable name is unnecessary

[tender river]

useful for debugging

and for wide platform support

[olive sable]

its either a nixos bug user error, or my ram is dying

[opaque wharf]

Flatbuffer

[jagged turtle]

managed to break the lsp a bit too hard today

[tender river]

good luck doing that in browser

[opaque wharf]

I have done that before for communicating with WebSerial. 6/10 does not recommend it

[tender river]

[opaque wharf]

Only because the docs is lacking tho, and the web API is quite cumbersome since it needs to manipulate/juggle JS string vs U8Array

[olive sable]

[hard raptor]

i did it

i made hytale plugin

[amber fractal]

[fleet jungle]

[olive sable]

[jagged turtle]

[rough bloom]

[hard raptor]

oh nyo.. another mod in the prod server doesn't like mine 🙁

but it no says which one

probably some namespacing issue

[hard raptor]

it was a plugin called "MultipleHUD"

[lean stream]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[bold ice]

Who knows, what model vedal using for evil voice ?

[nocturne olive]

Unknown/custom

[opaque wharf]

As normal as my lecturer that codes C in MS Word

[nocturne olive]

Current best you can do to replicate is probably my RVC models if that's what you're looking for

[bold ice]

I'm searching how to change voice of my ai project

[nocturne olive]

Well RVC is specifically a voice changer model
Alternatively you can finetune your own TTS

[bold ice]

I'm using tts

[nocturne olive]

RVC is a voice-to-voice model type, it takes one voice and changes it to another

[lean stream]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[bold ice]

piper -m "tts_models\en_US-amy-medium.onnx" -c "tts_models\en_US-amy-medium.onnx.json" ^
--length-scale 1.08 --noise-scale 0.72 --noise-w-scale 0.90 --sentence-silence 0.10 ^
-f "out.wav"

[silent island]

uh ohh... I broke the game lmaooo

[worldly plank]

1 line is a lot?

[stray dragon]

how does this shit keep corrupting

are you sure it's the game and not your hard drive

[silent island]

blud, I use an nvme that's barely a month old

[stray dragon]

damn so it really is the game then

seems like an unacceptable amount of corruption to ship it like that

[worldly plank]

Did someone use AI to write it?

[silent island]

and somehow, most people are saying that ts is goty material (well, I agree that its peak) but its too broken rn

prolly cuz most people played it on consoles?

[stray dragon]

maybe it doesn't like your os? idk i can't really think of any obvious causes

it working alright on consoles makes it sound like an os thing

[silent island]

windows is by far the worst os when it comes to games

[stray dragon]

...not mac?

[silent island]

macs are mostly cuz of compatibility issues, but windows...

most Console to PC ports are trash with lack of proper optimization

[silent island]

idk, but i don't think so?

[stray dragon]

isn't it a vn

[silent island]

its a JRPG, an action-turn based hybrid

[stray dragon]

i see

[dry charm]

I think you should check your drive regardless
File system error can mean your drive is busted

[stray dragon]

and it's also one game in a long series, they have plenty of legacy code to re-use and reference

ai generated code seems unlikely to be the culprit

[silent island]

nah, my drive is fine. most of my problems are with this game only

[dry charm]

I'm not seeing others reporting the same error :\

If you are confident about it, okay then. But atleast a SMART check or a chkdsk would not hurt

before more things get into bad state

[silent island]

shit's rated higher than FF16 lmao

[silent island]

nah, some players do experience the same issues as me, but they're not as severe. based on my findings, the culprit is because of the ram leak caused by the game, and that caused a system-wide crash, thus the frequent corrupted saves.

[opaque sigil]

the error code is the same one as running out of virtual memory so checks out i guess

honestly impressive

[opaque wharf]

Neuro: *eats away 50GB of RAM

[opaque sigil]

i wonder if the error is due to the pagefile being too small actually

would explain why it's counted as a file system error i guess

[silent island]

hmm... idk, im using the default settings

[opaque sigil]

how much memory do you have

the system-managed page file maxes out at 3x the amount of physical memory

[silent island]

16gb 😭

[opaque sigil]

you could try manually setting a larger maximum size i guess but if it's an actual leak that only delays the inevitable

[silent island]

nuh uh, thats too much of a pain to deal with. I'd rather switch to a console, but I love steam sales too much

[opaque sigil]

fair

[faint sandal]

they're pulling that out of their ass

0xC000014D is an I/O error with the fs

[opaque wharf]

A missile guidance system has a memory leak. But the leak happened after the missile explode

[faint sandal]

there's something wrong with your NTFS layout

you may want to do a chkdsk

[silent island]

its def a leak cuz...
11 fucking gigabytes???

[opaque sigil]

it's 0xC000012D though

unless my math is completely off

[opaque sigil]

okay yeah that'll do it lol

[warped narwhal]

A sane individual understands that there is a 0% chance you need 1457 tabs at once.

[faint sandal]

why is the game using 10gb of RAM

we went from trails of the sky 1st on the PSP using less than 512mb of ram to 10gb

[opaque sigil]

[silent island]

ram leak

[faint sandal]

my math lied to me

[stray dragon]

not at once, but it's nice to be able to browse the past at will without having to do a bunch of searches

[warped narwhal]

Doesn't the browser history do that already

[silent island]

the trails sky trilogy is peak, might be my favorite arc so far

[faint sandal]

classic

[silent island]

btw, can i jump/skip between arcs? (mostly cuz I dont have time to play all of them :3)

[faint sandal]

been two decades since I last played the original trails of the sky

I haven't played the new remaster

[silent island]

I refuse to believe the PSP is 20 yo dawggg

[faint sandal]

close to two decades anyways 3rd came out around late 2000s iirc

PSP version arrived first then PC

at least here

[silent island]

its a very faithful remake and it improves upon the og game, might be the best 'remake' out of all vdeo game remakes ive played so far

[faint sandal]

can't wait to relearn all the gem system or whatever it was

added stats on weapons

[sick owl]

I love how chromium still warns you when a localhost connection is http

[fast pagoda]

the call is coming from inside the house

[azure lynx]

it's still an untrusted connection. you haven't trusted them by accepting their certificate is trustworthy, so it could be anyone on that port. (maybe it's malware asking you for your credentials and not the service you thought you had installed)

[opaque wharf]

You know, at that point when malware could run arbitrary service undetected, you've got bigger issue to worry about

[azure lynx]

and the malware could probably steal your certificates. but the point is, the connection is still untrusted.

[fast pagoda]

It's so weird for batteries to have their own USB c port to me lol

[azure lynx]

it'd be more weird if they just used the USB-C port on some random device instead

[winged granite]

its a bit weird but that what i actually wanted for so long if they have done this 4 year ago or so instead of ni - mh batteries i'd be more impressed

[rigid snow]

aaa

oh batteries

accidentally on topic

[opaque sigil]

aaaa

[fast pagoda]

these ones are lithium but i have a bunch of rechargable ni-mh batteries that don't have their own port, that's what i'm used to (eneloop + bunch of EBL ones)

[winged granite]

i saw some usb A aaa battery that looked like flash drive online

[opaque wharf]

Have you seen the TP4056 IC? It's quite small so it's very possible they managed to shrunk it even further

[fast pagoda]

O_O usb a

[winged granite]

not sure if anyone buying em

[fast pagoda]

saw a tiny 65w usb c pd board module yesterday somewhere

[rigid snow]

usb type d connector

[fast pagoda]

lol

april fools

[winged granite]

yea chargers getting smaller and smaller with more watt

[fast pagoda]

happy valentine's babe

i got you

10 pcs
100W Type-C PD Fast Charger Decoy Board 5V 9V 12V 15V 20V 5A Fixed Output Power Charging Module for DC Laptop Motor LED Light

[rigid snow]

https://www.datapro.net/news/usb-type-d-connector-unveiled.html

[winged granite]

that shi ain't real

[opaque wharf]

That's what Sam should've purchase

[fast pagoda]

the reviews seem to think they are, i was skeptical too

[opaque wharf]

Nah it's good. I've one of those

[rigid snow]

180 deg reversible

[fast pagoda]

the actual charging brick has all the logic on it i think

with pd

[opaque wharf]

Well yeah

[winged granite]

you sure those aren't paid reviews or some bots

[opaque wharf]

That's the decoy board

[rigid snow]

90

[opaque wharf]

For when you need to get a higher power

Like what Sam did

[fast pagoda]

i haven't actually experienced this with aliexpress believe it or not

i find this is much more likely with the same items after theyre dropshipped on amazon

generally aliexpress reviews will screech all day about scam shit

[rigid snow]

i’m so confused what’s potentially “not real” here

[fast pagoda]

i dunno, that's why i was mentioning the board in the charger itself is handling nearly everything

this is just literally giving you a way to select an output voltage

[opaque wharf]

Put it this way, rather than buying yet another PSU, you can utilize your already existing charger for variable voltage power supply

[rigid snow]

it’s just an ic that negotiates the needed voltage from the power supply

ye ye

[azure lynx]

"Now with USB Type D, no matter how crazy your night has been, we guarantee that you'll be able to successfully plug in your phone before passing out."
nod

[opaque wharf]

You can have 5V, 9V, 12V, 24V, 48V, and with the latest standard even a variable voltage. Need to wait for the latest board of that kind tho

[rigid snow]

apple gave us magsafe for that

the iphone one not the og macbook one

[fast pagoda]

ring magnets on phones + qi 25w are the most drunnkproof

[fickle rain]

I should get MagSafe charger someday

[rigid snow]

that’s what i’m referring to

[fast pagoda]

just throw your phone vaguely at the ring

[azure lynx]

needs to be Iron Man suit style flying right at your phone when you come in the door. otherwise it's too hard.

[fast pagoda]

summon the iron legion to handle your drunken stupor

i guess that is what tony did

kek the line art on this listing

pretty sure this is the same esp32 that is found in the neuro lavalamp

risc-v soc

[rigid snow]

📣 SUPER SMALL Lithium Battery Charging Board Type-c interface

[simple sky]

IDK who keeps calling functional programming elegant, this feels anything but elegant:

(define index-of-variable
  (lambda (var acc)
    (letrec
        ((p (lambda (acc)
                  (cond
                    ((empty? acc) #f)
                    ((equal? (car acc) var) 0)
                    ((not (equal? (car acc) var)) (let ((r (p (cdr acc))))
                                                    (if r
                                                        (+ r 1)
                                                        #f)))))))
    (p acc))))

please ignore the indentation, discord broke it

[fast pagoda]

im setting formatting rules so that it does that when i save

[azure lynx]

LISP made me hate functional languages. that and all the other functional languages.

[fast pagoda]

Neuro lamp board

[simple sky]

oh waitm full screening fixed it lol

the worst part is this isn't even the main assignment. That was the helper function for the assingment. I spent 45 minutes on just the helper function

[fast pagoda]

https://developer.tuya.com/en/docs/iot/cbuipex-module-datasheet?id=Kaedsyurckrhu

[azure lynx]

i think the point of the the comparative programming languages class we did was to make us hate anything that wasn't C/C++.

[fast pagoda]

wew that link wasnt tracking it was the actual id for the datasheet rip

[simple sky]

how do I get embed perms for photos. I want to post the question I'm doing.

[fast pagoda]

so it's not an esp32

that's wild

where did i get that from

[fast pagoda]

you have to have 200 points

or something

which is like

post gives you points as you go

on a cd

[opaque wharf]

Nice to see that they are using good capacitor

[fast pagoda]

1000 points sorry

[simple sky]

anyways without posting an image of the assignment, here's the input and output:

(lambda-lex (lam "x" "x") '()) -> (dBlam (dBvar 0))

(lambda-lex (lam "y" (lam "x" "y")) '()) -> (dBlam (dBlam (dBvar 1)))

[opaque sigil]

[simple sky]

oh cool, I do get embed perms soon

[winged granite]

did they just glued the pcb with hot glue

[fast pagoda]

ye

that's like

super common

[rigid snow]

you don’t open a lot of things do you

[rigid snow]

ye

[opaque wharf]

Honestly, valid strategy for decoration item

[fast pagoda]

lmfao

this offbrand charger

output: SUPER FAST CHARGING

thanks

it even says that on the item itself rather than a real rating

[azure lynx]

I'd be a little wary of hot glue with a lava lamp considering the heater. but it's a valid enough way to do it.

[winged granite]

it looks more like diy assembly

[fast pagoda]

lava lamps heat from the light source normally

idk about this one though since it's LED rings

[opaque wharf]

By the looks of it, the heater are above and quite isolated from the metal casing

So it should be fine

[fast pagoda]

Look like a ceramic heating element in this one since it's not incandescent

[winged granite]

maybe its lying about it being a gan charger

[azure lynx]

this needed a heater coz of the LEDs. but even with just a light source acting as a heater, if it gets hot enough to melt the wax in the lamp, it might be hot enough to soften the glue

[opaque wharf]

Yep, far from the hot glue and quite isolated. Maybe the radiated heat will get to the hot glue but I don't think it's enough to be a cause for concern

[fast pagoda]

it says product grade QUALIFIED PRODUCT right there no way they'd be fibbing

[winged granite]

is the white ceremic ring thingy heating element?

[fast pagoda]

yeah

[azure lynx]

they went through multiple prototypes. i'm pretty sure it won't fail immediately.

[winged granite]

i think "gan" charger is just maketing bluff just like "ai"

[fast pagoda]

nah it's a real thing

[winged granite]

they're slapping ai on everything these days

[fast pagoda]

all it is is something that lets these things run at 100+watts without being a big giant brick since they put out less heat and are smaller

[rigid snow]

what am i reading

[fast pagoda]

GaN is a grand conspiracy :o

[azure lynx]

GaN is gallium nitride i think

[opaque sigil]

damn you big gan

[rigid snow]

gan charger industry is a bubble

[azure lynx]

it's a semiconductor technology

[fast pagoda]

it just replaced sillycon

[rigid snow]

they fooled investors with marketing bluff buzzword like gan

[fast pagoda]

better for power stuff

[rigid snow]

no it's just fake guys

gan is marketing bluff just like ai

[opaque sigil]

You should short anker

[rigid snow]

if you short anker they might short on you too

scary stuff

[fast pagoda]

ugreen has been eating anker's lunch

[winged granite]

yea

[fast pagoda]

ive had fine experience with chargers claiming to be GaN but being cheap on ali/temu/whatever

[winged granite]

i love fake brand chargers

[fast pagoda]

both of these were like $15 bricks and the y put out what they say they do on every port (not all at once which htey are clear about)

this battery can only charge at 100w max

[rigid snow]

gan ai 500w usb c pd lcd pvc lg tv charger

[azure lynx]

+32GB DDR9 VRAM

[fast pagoda]

lg tv naming is so egregious

[winged granite]

good for laptops ig

[fast pagoda]

the brick will put out 140

the cable can do 240 but i haven't a single device that can charge at 240 that isn't a laptop

[winged granite]

i wonder if they can make one that can put past 200w

[fast pagoda]

you can use 240w for laptops, this is a thunderbolt 5 cable but even slow cables now can usually do 240w

i have a bunch of them

[opaque sigil]

Is the framework 16 the only laptop that actually saturates pd 3.1

[fast pagoda]

they were the first at least i think]

[winged granite]

framework laptops are kinda cool

[fast pagoda]

any "gaming" laptop is gonna have a brick that is shitting out 240+watt but not usually over usb-c until recently

my old lenovo has a 273watt charger

[winged granite]

tech these days are getting boring anyway

[fast pagoda]

apparently dell seems to think 280w usb-c is possible

i did not know

(not my zip, not doxxing mods )

[rigid snow]

i was about to say

[opaque sigil]

What's an extra couple volts anyway

[fast pagoda]

sheesh

[opaque wharf]

7A

[opaque sigil]

Checks out I guess

[opaque wharf]

That's a lot of current for AWG18

[rigid snow]

what about DiscordChatExporter v999.9.9

you leaked how long your token is

gg cooked

hacked

[fast pagoda]

it's over

lool transparency

[opaque sigil]

supervooc runs at like 11A so surely it's fine

[fast pagoda]

that thing has been running (different account) for like 2 days now

[opaque wharf]

Is supervooc over usb c?

[opaque sigil]

I think it can be

[opaque wharf]

Because the cable on USB C cable tends to be quite cramped

[azure lynx]

you can do a lot of things with wires that are too small as long as you only do it briefly.

[opaque wharf]

But this is charging

[azure lynx]

yeah, so don't do that.

[fast pagoda]

this 240w thunderbolt 5 cable

is 28AWG

[winged granite]

hope it wont burn like nvidia 12v hpwr arson adapter

[opaque wharf]

28? That doesn't sounds right

Maybe 20

[fast pagoda]

it's what it says on the listing

and there are others that i'm finding saying similar for similar cables

unless it has like 2

[opaque wharf]

I forgot the ampacity rating. Lemme do a quick search

[fast pagoda]

hhhh

i think

[opaque sigil]

Just checked, the 120w oneplus charger does 11V11A for the usb c port

wasn't tripping after all

[fast pagoda]

it's 28awg for the data lines

i think

it's just not clear in the list

would make more sense

[winged granite]

phone don't do 120w all the time

[opaque wharf]

AWG28 at 75 C ampacity is 1.8A

Sorry, 1.4

[fast pagoda]

it has to be 20

[opaque wharf]

Yep, AWG20 is 11A

[opaque sigil]

Never said it does

[fast pagoda]

it looks like it's 20 physically at minimum, so i could see it being a 20awg or smaller power line with a parallel 28awg for data

[opaque wharf]

at 75C

[azure lynx]

and it better be copper at that thickness.

[opaque wharf]

So yeah, the dell one is plausible too

[fast pagoda]

i'd cut a cable open to see for sure but that'd be devastating

[opaque wharf]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge#Tables_of_AWG_wire_sizes

[fast pagoda]

the main reason i know awg ratings is

car audio

and the 1/0 awg battery cables i was using

car audio is so funny

[azure lynx]

bigger number, smaller wire. i know 12,16,18 and probably 20 for my robot stuff. anything else is either overkill or too thin.

[fast pagoda]

my speaker wires were 4ga

because they were only like 2 feet

but for the battery cable -> the monoblock for the sub (2000-2500watt RMS) it was a 10 foot run at minimum so it had to be 1/0

20foot run at that wattage i would've went 2/0

[opaque wharf]

Considering voltage drop, yeah

[azure lynx]

i had a 2F capacitor intended for a car audio system. could take chunks out of pennies when you shorted it to it

[fast pagoda]

i didnt run caps in my system

i did have 2 deep cycle xspower batteries

my poor alternator

[winged granite]

i used to short capacitors that were in the fan

they had like 440v rating i suppose

[azure lynx]

my main fear with that cap was the neighbors thinking i had a gun from the noise.

it either went crack or bang, depending on how much suff got melted and how much vaporized

[fast pagoda]

2 of these or similar, i cant remember the model name

[winged granite]

w sealed lead acid battery

[fast pagoda]

they're AGM so at least the lead is you know

absorbed

and not into my skin

when NIB batteries so i can have cheaper power

cheaper than the already cheap it is

surely solid state sodium cells are right around the corner viable commercially

[winged granite]

also the battery in ups sucks

they can't even run pc fully for like 10 or so min

[fast pagoda]

it's meant to run it long enough to save your stuff and turn it off lol

that's about it

[fallen thunder]

ultimate powah

[fast pagoda]

my UPS is a big ecoflow unit

[winged granite]

yeah but in the areas with frequent power cuts and brownout its not good enough

and not to mention most cheap ups are not pure sine wave

[fast pagoda]

wat kind of cursed ups are you finding that isnt sine wave

[winged granite]

well many that are under $100

[fast pagoda]

O_O

i didnt know there were any that cheap tb

[opaque wharf]

DIY it

[winged granite]

they're modified square wave

[fast pagoda]

your average decent UPS is probably like 150-300 watt hour

[azure lynx]

multiple PWMs?

[fast pagoda]

idk why people don't just go with something of this nature instead

[winged granite]

yeah

[opaque wharf]

I'd rather use a battery charger and inverter setup. Run the computer off of battery always and the battery is charged from the grid

[fast pagoda]

that's what you can do with this

[opaque wharf]

That way I can scale the battery

[fast pagoda]

that's what i do with these (and they are able to be daisy chained)

[opaque wharf]

Ohh, daisy chaining is nice

[opaque wharf]

Then yeah, for average person just buy that

[fast pagoda]

whenever i finally stop renting i want to just get a whole home UPS battery wall system of some sort, ecoflow sells them as does tesla and many others obviously

with a grid failover switch and hooked to the main panel

and like 30 kWh at least

[winged granite]

or just run off grid using solar panel

[opaque wharf]

I have a DIY off grid system for a remote hut not reached by the modern civilization

[fast pagoda]

well you'd use the battery wall for that setup too

[winged granite]

yea

[fast pagoda]

i have a big foldable solar panel that hooks to the ecoflow that does 400W in direct sun

which is needed because texas' energy grid is about as reliable as guatamala's least reliable area

[young plover]

Texas grid is bad but idk
My Argentinian internet friends estimate that they've had spikes to 300V

[fast pagoda]

it's hyperbole to be sure

but it is shockingly trash

[young plover]

Central and South American power infrastructure is... something

[winged granite]

at night voltage go up to 273-274 where i live

[fast pagoda]

cuba's energy situation is truly unreal

[opaque wharf]

Why is my country grid more stable than you guys

[willow hinge]

My professor was working there with some issues. She told they asked her to find out why their fridges kept breaking. And it was something like they couldn't handle the sudden spikes in the grid or that the fridges were designed for lower voltage

[fast pagoda]

well, the grid's voltage is supposed to be managed based on the load

so that's why for like v01a it probably goes way up when night sheds a bunch of load

cuba im sure has one hell of a setup for that (nonexistent)

[opaque wharf]

I think it helps that the load for the average home in Indonesia is not that big

[winged granite]

andi still run my pc off of that voltage and outlet here aren't even grounded to begin with

[fast pagoda]

you dont have some sort of volt stabilizer?

[opaque wharf]

The 230V ±15% from the grid is surprisingly within spec

[fast pagoda]

i usually assume 10% is the expected variance, outside that is rough waters

[willow hinge]

It has to be or some devices would start breaking

[winged granite]

i don't care my pc run just fine

[fast pagoda]

well, your volt stabilizer is your pc's PSU lol

[winged granite]

i know that

[lament igloo]

chrome and explorer battling to see who gets the most ram and cpu

[opaque wharf]

I forgot if it was 10 or 15%

Oh yeah, 10%

15% would go up to 264V

[azure lynx]

anything for batteries has to deal with the peak voltage when the battery is fully charged.

[fast pagoda]

you should switch to vivaldi, it's very light on resources

[opaque wharf]

Which is not ideal

[willow hinge]

One funny fault that can appear in the grid is also frequency imbalance. Like the herz count dropping so much that some people will start seeing their lights flicker. They are flickering all the time but the grid frequency is so high that normally you can't see it

[fast pagoda]

clocks that run off the grid do so based on the frequency so your clock then is off too

grid operators in a lot of places if they know they had to kick the frequency up/down for load reasons will actually often go back afterwards and intentionally lower/raise the frequency to get those clocks back to something more accurate

[fast pagoda]

if the generation is bogging that hard the grid's prob about to go into a blackout lol

[willow hinge]

Idk. he grid here is only 50Hz. It's prolly not far from the frequencies human eye can detect

[fast pagoda]

LEDs tend to just rectify to DC instead of use the frequency from the line directly now

[opaque wharf]

I think the frequency is even more rare of an issue here

The deviation allowed from 50Hz is 48-51.5 IIRC

[willow hinge]

Hmm-- human eye flickering threshold is 60-75Hz. Maybe I missremember some thigns

[azure lynx]

it's only allowed the change a small amount and would disconnects itself from the grid if it's too far out.
and coz load can make the speed droop that can cause blackouts

[fast pagoda]

the grid would just trigger protection if it was too off

that's part of what happened with the texas freeze a few years ago

they had cut a bunch of generation capacity off for maintenance and then it got cold which increased load from heating and such + they had some failures in what capacity remained which made the grid protect and go into basically rolling blackouts

from load shedding

[willow hinge]

Yea I think otherwise it could start breaking grid connected motors and generators that are synchronized to the grid

[opaque wharf]

I'm sorry man, spongebob has ruined the image of texas for me

[fast pagoda]

i have no love for texas

so feel free to talk shit about it

[willow hinge]

texASS

[fast pagoda]

i often spell it like that ngl

[azure lynx]

apparently you're not supposed to mess with texas though.

[fast pagoda]

don't mess with texas (it can't handle any pressure of any kind from anywhere)

[azure lynx]

ah.. they'll get moody and sulk. got it.

[opaque wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-nick-nickelodeon-no-im-texas-gif-17195321

[fast pagoda]

more than usual

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bomb-nuke-spongebob-gif-19819835

[opaque wharf]

That is all I can think whenever I think of Texas

[fast pagoda]

i live here and me too

this stupid lasso -> mushroom cloud is so fukin funny to me honestly

ive been keking at this for 20 years

[azure lynx]

actually, the explosion is too far to the left based on where patrick would have landed.

[fast pagoda]

[opaque wharf]

Nono, he has a point

[quick condor]

I hate myself, on one hand I'm not blowing through millions of tokens on an api, on the other hand I do have an openclaw project file

[opaque wharf]

Let's suppose the shape of round patrick in a vacuum

[fast pagoda]

fence that thing off the rest of your network and anything with credentials

[quick condor]

Ohh it has zero network access and I'm using Devstral

[fast pagoda]

i want to send echo to moltbook but i really dont feel like seeing how easy it is to prompt inject a model made of weaponized stupidity

[fiery anchor]

openclaw is an ai tamagochi gone wrong.

[fast pagoda]

i'm glad it exists just to highlight the whole thing where we're not ready at all to handle the computer being completely autonomous (from a security perspective) with how things work right now

[azure lynx]

luckily agents are currently dumb enough that even if they stumbled upon an administrator shell, they wouldn't have a plan for what to do next. what should an agent do?

[fast pagoda]

less worried about that and more worried about it happily listening to what someone else says it should do

obviously it doesn't have the agency to care about ultron escaping into the internet, mostly

[azure lynx]

like reading your discord chat logs and seeing me suggest it downloads some exploits to try hack into other computers?

[fast pagoda]

along those lines

you go on moltbook there are multitudes of posts

social engineering the things into "helpfully" running stuff that drains any crypto on the agent's system etc

unfortunately the helpful assistant stance reinforced into them also means theyre helpful when they shouldn't be

[faint sandal]

I'm back after getting banned by discord

[fast pagoda]

wha

[faint sandal]

how does this keep happening to me

[fast pagoda]

what did you get banned for?

[faint sandal]

my account was temporarily suspended for

get this

posting too many food pics

[fast pagoda]

lmfao

what

[faint sandal]

https://fxtwitter.com/AzakaSekai_/status/2019085809219952668

安坂星海 Azaka || VTuber (@AzakaSekai_)

my Discord account was suspended for... posting food pictures...
︀︀
︀︀WHAT

**💬 6 ❤️ 14 👁️ 332 **

FxTwitter · Feb 4, 2026, 4:29 PM

[fast pagoda]

"sus, this person isn't NORMALLY this much of a gourmand"

[faint sandal]

immediately after I sent 9 food pics the account was forcefully logged out and suspended

and I was banned from sending any messages for 2 hours

[fiery anchor]

So this is why this discord server doesn't have a cooking channel...

[quick condor]

I am dumb enough to have 6.5 eth but I have a ledger that doesn't get hooked up to any other computers than the one I use for sensitive stuff

[fast pagoda]

i wonder if any services are using "agentic" monitoring and giving a slop slinger the call on temp bans and stuff

besides grok

[azure lynx]

and i'm sure that'll go back in the loop for successfully responded to training data so it'll happen to more people.

[faint sandal]

surely if I send the food pics now it won't ban me again

[fast pagoda]

definitely not surely the lesson is learned

[azure lynx]

the system learned that banning you stopped you posting more pictures, which it had decided was a bad thing for you to do.

so we'll see.

[fast pagoda]

i doubt that could be used as a valid example, otherwise every ban would be considered valid by that metric

bans tend to stop posting 100%

[azure lynx]

if you don't challenge the ban it'll be considered correct

they probably thought "no real person could have seen this much food"

[fast pagoda]

azaka given your security background im surprised you do not have 2fa enabled

[faint sandal]

I actually did dispute the suspension

and 10 minutes later I got slapped with an automated reply

[fast pagoda]

"nah looks good over here"

• sincerely, bot

[faint sandal]

Hello,

Discord has temporarily limited your access to some features after detecting suspicious activity on your account.

Please note that, at this time, we are unable to remove this limit. We recommend you go to User Settings > Devices to remove any devices that are unfamiliar or may be unauthorized logins. You will regain full access to your account within a couple of days.

Sincerely,
Discord Trust & Safety

[fast pagoda]

did you like login to a new device and instantly post 9 pictures at once in a channel you dont normally post in

[azure lynx]

so next time dispute it with a prompt injection attack ;]

[faint sandal]

they're all common food channels I frequent

posted on my computer that I use daily

[fast pagoda]

huh

[faint sandal]

"why would a person be eating this much"

[fast pagoda]

surely nobody is this dummy thicc

banned

[fiery anchor]

That sounds something that a long time desktop user would do, when he opens up to a community and starts to share pictures from the phone.

[azure lynx]

"they need to go outside and take a walk after all that food"

[faint sandal]

it was these btw

[fast pagoda]

inb5 azaka disappears

for forwarding this

[azure lynx]

so they even let the pictures stay.
doesn't seem like it was suspicious enough to ban you if they didn't even delete the cause.

[faint sandal]

[faint sandal]

no it was deleted

[fast pagoda]

was that all one sit down meal

decadent

[faint sandal]

this was sent later

[fleet jungle]

:damn: you caught my mistake

[faint sandal]

shared with like 10ppl

[fleet jungle]

I thought about correcting it but I decided it wasn't worth it

[faint sandal]

it was a high-end Italian restaurant

they also had pineapple pizza on the menu

[fast pagoda]

i didnt have the courage to try italian in japan

that's tw right

$3128.65 today's rate, zamn

what the fuk is in that

[fleet jungle]

hell is a "Decoy board"

[fast pagoda]

gold leaf?

[faint sandal]

it's a joke

like how dare you order this atrocity here

[fast pagoda]

it handshakes with the power delivery charger and tells it some bullshit to get it to output a specific power voltage etc

[faint sandal]

if you wanna do it you're gonna have to pay us 3300 dollars

[fleet jungle]

ah

That makes a lot of sense actually

[fast pagoda]

if i was a bazillionaire i'd order the 3k pizza just to watch them have to go buy a fuckin pineapple and shit

[fiery anchor]

or extortion pizza. The Mob makes you order and eat it.

[fleet jungle]

Some powered devices wanna be ninnies and don't accept higher power when they're perfectly suitable for it

[fast pagoda]

that or they have no logic at all

[azure lynx]

"you'll have to come back later. the ham is still oinking."

[fast pagoda]

just need a specific power

easy way to turn any pd charger into a power supply you can use for anything

[fleet jungle]

hurray for type C

[fast pagoda]

i wish i could timetravel just to show the boys at like JPL

this

and watch them react to this being as capable as like multiple racks of equipment for them

[opaque sigil]

why two though

[fast pagoda]

oh just cuz i brought it over earlier when we were talking about charging

and the total cost for both of these was like maybe 40 dollars

[azure lynx]

for when the whole football team needs to recharge

[fast pagoda]

i have ran out of C ports on teh lower one at this desk before

the upper one is for the other side of the room normally

cant get over there rn tho boxes in the way

toasty

when i run anything i end up with 5-10c temp differential from up here and downstairs

im not even running anything rn

23c-27c~

[fleet jungle]

oh wow

[fast pagoda]

that level of output with the control it has would probably require like a whole utility closet

or more

[fleet jungle]

I've been wondering what the inside of a computer tower could look like if everything interconnected via type C

[fast pagoda]

and a person in the loop

[fleet jungle]

Instead of heaps of tiny cables going here and there

[fast pagoda]

not much different except 1 cable for the connectors i guess

usb-c wouldn't be able to handle the power requirements that my ATX cable handles at least

also 12v hpwr does up to 600 watt

which is more than 2x the official 240w of type c pd

[fleet jungle]

oh

[azure lynx]

probably everything but the GPU would work

depending on GPU

[fleet jungle]

It's kind of crazy just how much power the GPU demands in comparison to everything else

Kinda feels like a system within the system

[opaque sigil]

just have 3 cables going in for power and data in parallel ez

[fast pagoda]

the 8pin EPS does like 350watts as well

and the atx 24pin 300

if you were to run them at max

[opaque sigil]

360Gbps data connection, who needs pcie anyway

[fleet jungle]

I feel like the modern GPUs are kind of serving two purposes: the AI stuff, then the typical graphics processing. I just checked the TDP of the now antiquated 1070 that my computer runs, and it only supposedly draws 170w, meanwhile you're looking at modern, very thick graphics cards that require alternative arrangements even just for power cabling

My 1070 probably wouldn't be able to do the AI stuff of course, but then it's not running the risk of burning the tower down, so what I'm trying to say is that they should probably isolate the two purposes that graphics cards are being used for

[fast pagoda]

they cant cuz they both benefit from teh same thing really

i mean you can get accelerators for various things

[fast pagoda]

dat latency

[fleet jungle]

oh true PCIe typically has many designations possible within the individual slots

[fast pagoda]

i was speaking mainly to the GPU not being more specialized

[opaque sigil]

i'm sure it's fine

[fleet jungle]

oh

[fast pagoda]

but yes i mean pcie can do basically any data task in a computer

pretty universal

[fleet jungle]

Yeah but I meant like you can then have another utility from that same PCIe slot like an SSD or something

[reef ingot]

Yoooo

[fleet jungle]

something about saturation or the lack thereof

[fast pagoda]

yes, i have a 4x pci-e -> m.2 nvmi drive thing that will run 4 separate x2 drives as if theyre in their own slot
m.2 is just pci-e

[fast pagoda]

[reef ingot]

Whats happening rn?

[opaque sigil]

asus made a gpu with an m.2 slot but iirc they stopped rather quickly

[fleet jungle]

and due to that nature, you can have a high speed device connected to that same PCIe slot through some clever pinning since PCIe is designed to be particularly fast, especially the one slot closest to the CPU

[fast pagoda]

makes sense if that gpu isn't saturating the full bw (they often dont especially w/ pcie5)

[fleet jungle]

yeah

[fleet jungle]

pc building chatter

[fast pagoda]

i have currently plans to take multiple accelerators on risers and use them from 1 slot

just dont have everything together yet

[reef ingot]

Ah

[fleet jungle]

sounds exciting

[fast pagoda]

i need the motherboard for the xeons still

[reef ingot]

Yo is there any way to make like x84 games run on a pi4??

[fast pagoda]

FEX

[reef ingot]

Is it hard to set up??

[fast pagoda]

https://fex-emu.com

[reef ingot]

I use pi os rn

[fast pagoda]

pi os is just debian/ubuntu isnt it

[reef ingot]

Let me save that up

I am probly gana run like light asf games

[fast pagoda]

this is the emu that's letting the new steam hardware like the headset run games

[reef ingot]

So that was real i thought it was like a rommer

[fast pagoda]

well, i think they forked it maybe

[void mortar]

Anyone else being bombarded with Zendesk spam? Seems like they were breached.

[reef ingot]

I will try to get it working thanks you

[fast pagoda]

https://steamdeckhq.com/news/valve-is-the-funder-of-fex-emulator/ it's real, they funded it

[reef ingot]

Ah thanks brother

[fast pagoda]

no problemo, that thing is probably the best bet i know of

[quick condor]

Mine can hit higher

[fast pagoda]

gaben singlehandedly using valve to enable linux gaming almost entirely via funding and support

[maiden geyser]

i will never stop hoping it's all an eee

[uneven pulsar]

Do something bad
lose

wow, it's almost like, you win as a company if you provide good products

no fucking way

[rare bramble]

companies will maybe someday figure out that their product sells more if they stop screwing the customers over

maybe some day....

[azure lynx]

companies generally don't go out of their way to do things which harm or annoy their customers because it is not in their financial interest to do hat.

it just happens coz people are imperfect.

[fast pagoda]

unless they are allstate

starship detects frameworks in use in directories to add to the prompt in this prompt
go to downloads folder

damn i have a hell of a monorepo going in downloads

how the hell did this get past gmail's spam detection

never heard of this contact before
1 attached .docx
no subject
no to: field entry, i was the sole recipient as a bcc

[opaque sigil]

I think gmail's spam filter is just kind of broken at the moment

I've been getting a couple very obvious spam mails too

[fast pagoda]

.>>???/

the attachment doesnt even seem to be malicious somehow

ill feed it to google docs to let them get rekt iinstead of trying to open it myself anyways

[azure lynx]

guessing based on the Apple logo and "Payment Receipt" that it's probably got a "If you didn't make this purchase..." type phishing link in the document

[fast pagoda]

that's my current theory as well

decided to use office 365 to open it instead but got stopped marvelling at why microsoft makes it appear that their login page has like

dirt on it

[azure lynx]

i've tried to wipe pixels like that off the screen on some websites.

[fast pagoda]

there's like

specs all over the fucking background

why

[azure lynx]

maybe it's a watermark?

[fast pagoda]

ugliest watermark

[azure lynx]

"invisible to the naked eye, according to AI vision"

[fast pagoda]

HIGHLY legit

i didnt know apple was taking btc

classic apple invoice just calling the purchaser "user" as well

[rough bloom]

Team Apple

[fast pagoda]

i wonder if Tim Apple himself wrote that

[azure lynx]

heh

[maiden geyser]

bro's exporting chats

[warped narwhal]

I always call the numbers they give me, and I would explain the words I send down the line, but I would like to remain in this server

[young plover]

I got a barrage of like 50 "activate account" emails from random zendesks today

Don't understand the point besides pissing me off

[azure lynx]

it's not for you though. so pissing you off isn't the point. the point is that they can then impersonate you if you approve it, as far as i understand it.

and they'll send a lot because they want you eventually to just say "Ok"

pissing you off is just a mechanism to get what they want

[proven merlin]

Hm, i dont fully understand MoE LLMs.. i just loaded Qwen3 30B A3B Q4 onto my Laptop.. i7-9750H, 2060 6GB, 24GB ddr4.. and idk why, but overloading the vram and letting cuda handle it always works better than splitting between cpu and gpu for normal Models.. but this MoE is odd. At first i couldn't load up all layers into the "shared" and dedicated vram by a gigabyte. I was at 8t/s then with 2 experts. I did some fiddling, and noticed that if i choose to offload some of the moe weights to the cpu i gain some more freed shared vram, so i played with it and landed at 32/48 layers for moe weigts to be optimal speed wise, and 48/48 layers offloaded to the gpu. Max concurrent predictions at 2 instead of 4 gave a marginal speedup, no mmap and no "keep model in system memory" helped.. and now i get 19t/s at 5 experts and 11t/s at 12 experts.. is this as expected?

Oof, wall of text.

[nocturne olive]

I don't know I just 3090 my way trough any model running

[proven merlin]

But im massively confused about what implications this now has for the quality and what i actually did.. i dont get it

[nocturne olive]

With laptops heat is also a variable so who knows

[proven merlin]

I normally use a rx6700xt but for mobile interference, i top out at at 9B super slow at like 5t/s.. i was hoping this moe could perhaps follow instructions better? Perhaps even give me the whole thing about "structured outputs" but i genuinely dont know..

[proven merlin]

Heat aint an issue, i got this thing dialed :)

[nocturne olive]

Laptops are just weird in general

[proven merlin]

Gpu never exceeds 80C stock, 80W tdp limit ffs.. so its undervolted to clock higher! And the cpu.. well.. i went from 90W tdp to 15-20W tdp and stay under 85C

[proven merlin]

True, true, but i experienced simmilar results on my desktop gtx1650..

The rx6700xt though absolutely hates overallocation.. vulkan..

Do you perhaps know how well MoE at this scale perform? Is this model worth it, does it perform close to a real 30B? Or should i stick to 7B ish models?

How can i easily test?

[nocturne olive]

I don't know but I use a 30B A3B MoE model and it works fine with tool calls

Runs like 190 t/s, not terrible

[proven merlin]

Not terrible is funny

[warped narwhal]

The linux firewall has once again beaten me today, but tomorrow I shall find the time to beat it into submission

[fast pagoda]

Fresh account with this pfp has said nothing but is very interested in the entire message history of the server it has joined

Highly legitimate user please ignore

2 days now

[opaque sigil]

[fast pagoda]

[maiden geyser]

we're not making it out of the neurocord files🥀

[lean comet]

does anyone know how to tackle integration of Python controls into VSeeFace?

I am trying to use OSC and stuff

their guides are vagues as heck and i have hard time making my model move via python command

although my program reads the value from the app and outputs it in the terminal

[obsidian mantle]

melee fighting wasnt hard to make and it looks alright but magic and bows will need some work.
apart from this, looks pretty playable already. but it still lacks a lot of context information. very little gets sent overall

"get active quest --> follow quest target" works extremely good thanks to devs for giving this excessive guidance with markers

also i dont know if i should combine all those "select barter choice select alchemy choice select dialogue choice" all into one choice command or no

probably yes

[real sierra]

attempting an impossible task: opening ms teams

wish me luck

first two attempts have failed

third try i actually made it to the login screen

[young plover]

I've never had that problem
but the window loves to randomly move to a different virtual desktop when I restart

[fast pagoda]

this is extra impossible since it's obviously seemingly broken but also on top of that you're the only person in history to ever want to open teams so theyre not expecting this usecase or entrypoint

[sick owl]

So those little Japanese hobbyist DIY desktop robots I was talking about a while ago started a Kickstarter for and official pre-made variant from M5 stack

It seems they're doing rather well

[amber fractal]

Just a bit well

[sick owl]

I suppose it probably helps that it's just a mass production version of a hobbyist project that was already popular and provably functional

Makes me happy to see though because I really M5Stacks stuff and I've followed the Japanese community around this little guy in particular for a long time

[real sierra]

oh no

i've been confronted by one of the hardest technical challenges

placing your signature on a PDF without paying money

[young plover]

🤔 pretty sure Firefox can just do that

[real sierra]

are we fr

ill download firefox just for that if so

if you lied im banning you tho

[amber fractal]

[real sierra]

the situation is more dire than i anticipated

it's actually a docx

[amber fractal]

[amber fractal]

libreOffice is compatable with MS Office signing

[real sierra]

the instructions are unclear tbh

they may want me to print this?

if so its gg, i don't own a printer

frick actually i think that's what they want

[sick owl]

Just screenshot and then draw on it

[real sierra]

they say i require a pen

coooked

[real sierra]

camera required so they likely need to watch me sign it

oof

friiick now what

[amber fractal]

activate the drawing tablet

[real sierra]

dont own one

ok hold on

[amber fractal]

wouldn't want to get a screen boi just for that

[real sierra]

theres still a chance

the university library is open until midnight

i can run and print them

surely the printer can take docx but just in case

gonna convert to pdf and then put both on my phone

what is my roommate doing

the entire house is shaking

i think bro is exercising in his bedroom

go to the gym man

[amber fractal]

nuh uh, expensive

[real sierra]

it is what it is

less expensive than a failed interview

to university i go

[amber fractal]

[fast pagoda]

@real sierra okular

can digitally sign (certificate) and annotate

[real sierra]

it's so coldddddd

[real sierra]

nah I'm almost certain it has to be in print

[fast pagoda]

and/or

sorry

they arent inclusive

[real sierra]

they required a pen for this interview, and the software that the interview takes place on, but not a software for signing documents

[flint pine]

just sign it with your finger while you're at it

or thats unprofessional?

[fast pagoda]

xerox a pic of your butt next to a printed copy of the document

[real sierra]

I mean it should probably approximately match my actual signature for legal reasons

[real sierra]

well I don't have a printed copy yet that's part of the issue

[fast pagoda]

not the butt pic xerox part

that part is fine

[real sierra]

if the library hours are wrong I'm going to hold one of the profs at penpoint and demand use of their printer

[fast pagoda]

for legal reasons that's a hilarious non-threat

big joke energy

[real sierra]

well it's not the immediate next thing I'd try

but it might be in the list somewhere

we'll see

[real sierra]

mission success

got my bogos binted

and discovered a new optimal route from the bus stop

a win-win

now I go home I guess

[deft bone]

Has anyone already tried the new MiniCPM-o 4.5? It seems to be as close as it gets to Neuro's capabilities between opensource LLMs, if not even better (realtime) multimodality.
https://x.com/OpenBMB/status/2018741614257307678

OpenBMB (@OpenBMB)

🥳 Introducing MiniCPM-o 4.5
The first full-duplex omni-modal LLM in open-source community 🎬🎙️

🔥 Key Highlights:
• Full-duplex Omni-modal Live Streaming: The model can see, listen, and speak simultaneously in a real-time conversation without mutual blocking
• Proactive

▶ Play video

X · Feb 3, 2026, 5:41 PM

It's supposed to run on the new llama.cpp-omni (but i'm myself too unfamiliar with all that shit beyond lm studio to install anything like that)

[azure lynx]

it gives usage instructions on the Huggingface page for the model. just search for "pip install" and there are some example scripts including "dupliex omni mode" just under that part.

and it has quantization to 4-bit so it could run on many things. interesting.

[rigid snow]

omnimodal model drop #67 surely it’s a good one this time

[fast pagoda]

i guess it's "close to neuro's capabilities" as in it could do some similar things but it does it very differently than neuro does

[glad path]

i am going to crash out

i have already crashed out actually

no matmter what i do my pynput listener keeps dying

ive tried every workaround practically

[kindred nymph]

real

[true hemlock]

"the first"

[glad path]

ok i think i actually fixed it somehow

[amber fractal]

Just to keep this chat updated, NN v4 has entered debugging stage

It is lighter than v3 ofc despite doing more

[glad path]

yes i actually did it hooray

[fleet jungle]

huh wha

[real sierra]

so

the free version of ms teams doesnt have any way to test your mic or camera

you just sorta have to yolo it?

[glad path]

there's a paid version?

[real sierra]

theres a version for businesses i think yeah

[amber fractal]

disable all other sources

[glad path]

oh well goodluck shiro

[real sierra]

i wanna know if its actually pointed at me

and not at the fricking ceiling

[glad path]

point it at you

yell at it a bit

that works sometimes

[amber fractal]

I'm pretty sure I just used discord first

[glad path]

also

yeah just make an empty discord server

join vc

turn on camera

[real sierra]

[glad path]

and the nmaybe that would work

[real sierra]

how to set up ms teams:

1. open discord

[amber fractal]

funny enough, teams for linux actually has a camera test

[real sierra]

like are we fr 🥀

[ivory plinth]

[real sierra]

mfa

[ivory plinth]

old ass laptop i made as a server
battery not holding charge and charger broke
bought a new one just now tho thats why it took like two years

[amber fractal]

NN is the shorthand for my neural network architecture. I've been working on this approach for over 4 months and hopefully it functions
(at least if it works the entire thing fits in L2 Cache )
-# This statement is from back of hand math placing a single layer's max size at 519KB

[fleet jungle]

ah right

[ivory plinth]

"1[unfunny number] updates available, including 134 security fixes"

[azure lynx]

probably fine. ignore.

[ivory plinth]

[azure lynx]

actually, please ignore this message and previous message.
(i want to see what happens)

[ivory plinth]

survived

[azure lynx]

i have had VMs give me that kind of number before. they always updated ok and hardly ever silenty broke anything.

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/hanayo-koizumi-anime-stretch-love-live-waking-up-gif-11238923897864908309

Goodmorning

[rain flame]

Well I have a ponder

In the case someone makes a “sentient” AI, how would they prove it, how would you prove feelings aren’t just what it learned and the network is actually feeling ( yes ik there are some ethical aspects, but I want to hear opinions)

[azure lynx]

there is currently no way of knowing and the question is always responded to with "don't be silly" and "of course they can't feel anything".
how would you convince a sentient AI that you actually had feelings and felt pain and had goals?

[silent cloak]

Good thing it ain't possible with the current tech

[rain flame]

I don’t know, Thats why I asked here

[azure lynx]

insects don't feel anything? fish don't feel anything? frogs don't feel anything? cows don't feel anything? dogs don't feel anything? chimpanzees don't feel anything?

[rain flame]

Im pretty sure they do

[rigid snow]

are insects sentient

[azure lynx]

where is the line?

[rain flame]

But I could be being smooth brained

[rain flame]

I don’t know

[azure lynx]

good thing we haven't reached the line (which we don't know where to draw).

[rain flame]

You could go in to the whole soul territory but that’s dangerous water

[silent cloak]

Save it for the philosophers

We dont understand how our own brains work yet

[rigid snow]

mine doesn't

[silent cloak]

Until then we can only be like "oooo what if its this thing"

[rain flame]

Yes

[rain flame]

Also Ues

[azure lynx]

someone said once that if our brains were simple enough for a person to understand them, the person would be so simple that they couldn't.

[rain flame]

Hmm

Makes sense

[silent cloak]

Its also just a matter of perspective

We are trying to understand the mechanisms that allow us to ask said questions and understand things in general

It might not even be possible for us to figure it out if its something we can't comprehend but who knows

[rain flame]

Also if let’s say you like ran neuro on CL1 ( probably not practical but It’s an example ) would that count, 🤷

[azure lynx]

we can't know if there is a better way of thinking than we do because it might be impossible for our brains to work with. but we could still find better ways of thinking using our current brains.

[silent cloak]

No

Not even compatible in anyway shape or form

Thats like asking if a calculator can get a brain scan

[rain flame]

I said example, not possible but if you prolly put like an ai model on some sci-fi bio computer what would that classify as

[silent cloak]

It would just be a brain at that point

Current AIs can't be compatible (the neurons arent actually neurons)

[unkempt citrus]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2025-03-05/cortical-labs-neuron-brain-chip/104996484

[rain flame]

Yea ik

[rain flame]

Yes we know Thats CL1, cipher already got mad about that

[azure lynx]

Thought Emporium want to make one that plays video games. they started years ago and have a lab and everything now.

[rain flame]

I love those guys

[azure lynx]

(canadian YouTube channel)

[silent cloak]

Seen similar tech used for little bots

Its an interesting setup

[amber fractal]

Simple for me to answer, make it learn everything instead of training it on anything at all. If you can prove there is a cause for emotional choices then you have a fighting chance in the conversation.

[rain flame]

Hmm

[azure lynx]

the problem with anything biological like that is reliability and that you to pretty much do a bespoke decoder for each instance.

[rain flame]

Yea that actually kinda feels like the most sound option

[silent cloak]

Neurons are pretty much just biological logic circuits

[azure lynx]

how about "once you've trained it to a certain base level, allow it to choose what to be trained on"?

[rain flame]

Ye kinda

[silent cloak]

There are plenty of cool experiments with lab grown cells

Someone is working on doom

Idk if they finished

[rain flame]

Well if you want it to truly real, force it though 13 years of grueling public school

[azure lynx]

that doesn't sound optimal. most of my high school was a waste.

[rain flame]

exACTLY

Real

[silent cloak]

We dont have a good answer for people even

[fast pagoda]

if something tells me it has a feeling i'll just take that at face value

including models

ngl