programming

[opaque sigil]

I'm lazy so I just get a nix shell with the full tex setup

[opaque wharf]

Because if 60cents/minute is with assistance, then that is cheap af

[olive sable]

i doubt it tbh

they jsut have the steps for how to use it ont heir website

nothing mentions assistance

[opaque wharf]

Well, at least 2D cnc gcode is not that hard to understand

[azure lynx]

so worst case a few dollars while you work out what to do and do a practise cut with a similar material and then do the actual thing?

[opaque wharf]

Depending on how big the cut is, it may take more than a few dollars

[olive sable]

ye

[true hemlock]

i forgot how enormous a 3090 BAR is

[olive sable]

jsu tmake the bar resizabel

[hard delta]

chat

[true hemlock]

that's what i just did

actuallly since some time ago

[hard delta]

are we unc enough in here that we've watched stand alone complex back then?

[olive sable]

resizabel autocorrects to Elizabeth

[hard delta]

did it motivate us in career choice?

[true hemlock]

but the msi's trx40 suck ass

cant even correctly assign a PCIe slot mode

when rebar

had to do it manually

• rebar and 4g encoding

[olive sable]

like the anime? nope

[olive sable]

also no

[opaque wharf]

You should know the machine recommended feed rate and power for the thickness of the acrylic that you're going to cut. They usually have a table of it. From that feedrate and gcode, the gcode generator should be able to tell you how long it will take to machine it

Usually acrylic is 10W/mm of thickness

[olive sable]

uhm

its 2mm thick

i need to cut a 150mm circle from the side of a 300mm circle

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, but the feedrate will depends on power too, and that usually depends on the machine (like how close is the toolhead)

Feedrate is just how fast the laser should move (in mm/s usually)

[olive sable]

well you see

i have no clue

you're getting ahead of yourself here

or ahead of myself i guess

[opaque wharf]

The topic of machining is exciting to me because I did that for a living lol

[olive sable]

the projector arrives in march

i will maybe machine it then

[true hemlock]

3080 uses 16MB, titan v uses 32MB....
the 3090's BAR however...

[olive sable]

oh damn

thats 16gb

[true hemlock]

yeah what the hell

[olive sable]

that doesn feel right

where exactly does bar go? is it ram?

[rough bloom]

nowhere, it's just memory-mapping

[azure lynx]

would your design let you use the untrimmed acrylic piece? because you probably want to keep your options open for how close to the exact size you want to cut it.

[olive sable]

i can cut a 2nd circle out of the other side of the lens in theory

[true hemlock]

its literally just MMIO

but still

[olive sable]

i need a fresnel lens, but the optical center has to be at the edge of the circle

[true hemlock]

16GB is crazy

[rough bloom]

still seems tiny tbh
not even enough to map all VRAM at once
PCIe restriction mabe?

[opaque wharf]

Wait, you're using acrylic as the lens?

[true hemlock]

elvyns threadripper been having PCIe issues lately after she has the 3090. turning on reBAR, 4G encoding AND manually configuring the PCIe slots fixes it

[olive sable]

the fresnel lens ye

im not able to cut glass nor quartz

[true hemlock]

BAR size usually isn't even that much
most i've seen is 256MB

the 3090 randomly getting negotiated to have 16GB addressed is insane

[opaque wharf]

It involves a lot of water

[true hemlock]

...not even my K80 required THAT much

and K80 is considered BAR hogger

[opaque wharf]

Or if the glass is thin enough, then there is a specialized cutter for it

[azure lynx]

glass cutter probably wouldn't work well on a fresnel lens because of how they're shaped on the non-flat side

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, that's the thing. I don't know how optical glass is shaped

[olive sable]

whats wrong with acrylic tho?

[azure lynx]

it's got a lower refractive index than glass

[opaque wharf]

Nothing lol

[azure lynx]

i think

[olive sable]

i think it shoudl be fine

[rough bloom]

ye, because usually you don't need that much, it just slightly accelerates transfers (and would probably make development much easier because you don't have to remap stuff all the time)
though I'm pretty sure DMA also bypasses this

[opaque wharf]

I don't know enough about optics but you're saying you're unable to cut glass. So I'm just telling you how to cut glass

[olive sable]

i jsut dont want to deal with the hastle of cutting glass

[true hemlock]

i still was expecting at most 4096MB of BAR
and got 16384

[olive sable]

and acrylic was a lot cheaper

[olive sable]

i think large is good no?

[true hemlock]

honestly

K80 might also default to 16GB BAR

right

last time i tried putting in the K80 on my TRX40 same issue with debug hex code looping happened

i wonder if the board will survive the 3090 + K80 together

[rough bloom]

I think it just takes whatever it can get (because as Sam said, there's really no downside to using a bit more virtual memory as long as there are no conflicts)

also apparently my GPU currently has a 32GB BAR

[true hemlock]

what

kind of gpu is that

[rough bloom]

7900 XTX

[true hemlock]

oh

oh

[quick condor]

codex didnt like this prompt "avoid search tools, line by line, everything, update doc after every file. src/audio src/debug src/ui src/expression src/ filters src/gates src/gpc src/llm src/memory src/orchestrator src/session src/streaming src/stt src/tts src/utils src/discord_main.py src/main.py src/server.py"

[true hemlock]

imagine vibe coding lol

[rough bloom]

you can have a BAR of up to 128 TB

upper limit supported by the Resizable BAR capability

[quick condor]

Id rather go to sleep then go through thousands of lines of my own python code

[true hemlock]

python?

damn

i would really like to say low BAR but shuni appeared with the info about BAR upper limit being 128TB

[true hemlock]

right, seem to line up with 48 bit addressing

or 47

though hmm

[rough bloom]

they just ran out of bits in the configuration register

[true hemlock]

damn under 32 bit

right, 4G encoding or whatever that is

[rough bloom]

this isn't the address itself, it just gets read to know what the device wants/supports

[true hemlock]

i haven't actually looked into this

[rough bloom]

ye I haven't either, so I was curious on how this negotiation works

[opaque sigil]

smh just use those 4 bits

[rough bloom]

apparently it's just this register

and the host picks whatever it wants from that I guess

wade

they added another register

so yeah, 8 EB BAR

[true hemlock]

wait link me that shit

[rough bloom]

https://picture.iczhiku.com/resource/eetop/SYkDTqhOLhpUTnMx.pdf

random PCIe 5 spec PDF

[opaque wharf]

That's rare

[opaque sigil]

tfw pcie 5 spec from 2019

[opaque wharf]

It's like finding random ISO spec in the wild lol. I think either someone is in trouble or they just don't care

They are paywalled by (relatively) a lot of money for individuals after all

[opaque sigil]

They want so much money it's ridiculous

[rough bloom]

$4500 pdf

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, welcome to standardization. Some spec are ridiculous for what they are lol

[jagged turtle]

"standard" as well is crazy

[opaque wharf]

It is what it is lol. Automotive industries are very notorious for it

[nocturne olive]

Hem
I wonder if mine has any

How would one even know how much memory a GPU has decided to map

[glass jetty]

i getting async work when it impossible to get

unless c api use some sort of suspending

so, you want to tell me, that inside of c function, they suspend execution on some point, and than return to this point, while allowing any other code be executed on this context??

what the fuck

[opaque wharf]

Isn't that how SMT works?

Well, not really SMT but any preemptive scheduler

[nocturne olive]

That just sounds like OS scheduling

[opaque sigil]

coroutines

[glass jetty]

cpp main
-> cpp qthread
-> execution context on qthread
-> c api function
<- somehow return execution context ownership, idk how to call here
-> execution of next function on this thread, from queue
(blowing everything up because it should be in defined order)
->c api function get control, do their work
<- just exit from function it was called from
<- and high lvl context know nothing about it

[glass jetty]

that the fucking reason i so pissed off

there no any

it fucking c functions

[opaque sigil]

There's no coroutines in c (by default)

[glass jetty]

i gonna safely leak some code

wait a moment, i need to download browser and login discord

[opaque sigil]

is it one of the nonblocking options that were set

[glass jetty]

there nothing in docs about this behavior

[opaque wharf]

???

https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/getcontext.3.html

[glass jetty]

void Api::requestChangeActiveMode(bool active){
    qDebug() << "how tf you run here";
    qDebug() << QThread::currentThreadId();
    if(not isWorking){m_active = false; return;}
    if(manager->isValidCamera()){
        manager->activeMode(/*bool &*/active);
    }
    m_active = active;
}

void Api::requestResetClient(){
    qDebug() << "i run here";
    qDebug() << QThread::currentThreadId();
//    std::this_thread::sleep_for(std::chrono::seconds(10)); // checked that it is indeed preemptive c function
    try{
        dropRuntimeSizes();
        manager->closeCameras();
        manager->startupCameras();
        if(not manager->isValidCamera()){return;}
        manager->setSettings();
        if(not manager->isValidCamera()){return;}
        auto pair = manager->getSizes(); // ? size of channels variable, not channels of camera
        changeRuntimeSizes(pair.first,pair.second);
        std::string text = manager->getSettings();
        if(not manager->isValidCamera()){
            dropRuntimeSizes();
            return;
        }
        changeTextOutputInSettings(text);
        qDebug() << "camera ok";
        isWorking = true;
    }catch(...){
        isWorking = false;
        std::cerr << "error in " << std::source_location::current().function_name();
    }
}

i run here
 0x6170
 **request active mode <- outer code**
 **startup cameras** <-inner cout**
 how tf you run here
 0x6170
 UsrMsg Camera error in initialize : "Abort" // aborted by myself, but in general it just continue execution of requestResetClient

btw, all names are legacy api

[opaque wharf]

But yes, it does require libc

[glass jetty]

unrelated generally
it not even linux
i have to use fucking windows for 3/4 apis we use

[opaque wharf]

ucontext from the man page is from standard c library

[glass jetty]

aint no way it can non-blocking non-wait-point non-external hidden-from-user call async multithread scheduling

but seems like it is

[opaque wharf]

That's what it said. But I don't know if that truly is how it is because I haven't tried it myself lol

[glass jetty]

it behaves just like it use some sort of poll, but without waiting

if it is thread that wait on interrupt...
nah there no use, just interrupt cannot switch context back
how tf it async in first place, how tf it can behave like co_await

[opaque sigil]

This smells like qt abstraction magic to me

[glass jetty]

qt just do qthread{qobjects_linked,queue}
and qobject.forThreadAdd(task)

ot something like this idk

but here is JUST function

outer code know absolutely nothing

it is compiled dll

[opaque sigil]

I've never actually used qt so idk, was just a feeling

[glass jetty]

no, qt here is just like threads with async scheduler, who can assign task to specific thread

[opaque sigil]

[glass jetty]

guys

i give up

they claim that they use qt4/5 core libs and do not interact with user code
qt cannot do coroutine
qt can invoke process incoming events (slots are events)

but

how tf their dll code with own, assumed statically linked qtcore
with FUCKING c api functions
can interact with outer (user) code

that is only reasonable explanation

but that fucked up

totally violate some standard requirement
idk which one, but feels like it do

/
msvc is Worst compiler

maybe it is a reason

gonna add timeout 10 sec before calling request active mode from outer code
just some sort of execution guard looks better
and also JUST HOPE that no one will ever try to add something that should behave sequentially

^ should be in our docs at least

[glass jetty]

it is horrible....

i was right, and i not like it

[faint sandal]

[ornate bane]

well, this sounds a lot like some sort of undefined behaviour or corruption
if you want to dedicate more time into this, make a separate minimalistic app, just enough code to investigate

[silent island]

Do y'all think im truly cooked chat?

[glass jetty]

it sound like
but it is not (my part of code) ||// at least||

[glass jetty]

btw, and even worse, even with queued connection (macros always expand to queued), it still dead lock itself (as you can see here )
i have to add qtimer::singleShot(10,... here

anyway, after understanding issue it took only 2 hours to rewrite related code and end testing
now, i again have no work to do, until coworker finish his part, and than there is like at least 2 week non stop brain-paired work
time to watch youtube

[faint sandal]

https://fxtwitter.com/_lyraaaa_/status/2016310589132571077

lyra bubbles (@_lyraaaa_)

you should definitely train a model on yourself

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[opaque wharf]

Well, if that is a highshool homework then the teacher will probably ask how did you come up with those numbers to check if you understand how it comes to it

But knowing ID school, probably not

[azure lynx]

pretty sure they don't allow desmos for most tests either.

[opaque wharf]

Homework is not test tho. So it may be allowed to use calculator but you still need to explain how it comes to those result

But if that is uni, then probably the prof. WILL want you to write the explanation

[azure lynx]

explanation to show that you didn't just buy the teacher's edition of the textbook

[glass jetty]

i think

CS teachers should ask
where they found sources, why they think that function behave the way they expect, and etc.

[opaque wharf]

I don't know about other uni, but at least my uni is not like that. In fact, the lecturer on my program strictly said that you are better off downloading a pdf from some site

[opaque wharf]

Yes, exactly. If it is uni, then the prof/lecturer will want an explanation. But highschool? Not so much

[sage crag]

obviously?

its a linear regression problem, solving it with desmos is like looking up the answer

[opaque wharf]

Or it could be the usual mindset of "too tedious to do manually that may take hours, spend days of automating it"

[azure lynx]

"I didn't get ChatGPT to solve it. I asked ChatGPT how to use Desmos to solve it."

[opaque wharf]

Honestly, I assume the person knows how to use desmos already

[azure lynx]

the only math class i ever took where they wanted you to use a tool to do it was one where they taught Mathematica.

[opaque wharf]

My class in uni allows us to use calculator all the time. Geogebra, desmos, scientific calc. You name it. If it helps your understanding, the lecturer allows it. At the end of the day, the test will not allow you to use all of those, but maybe some table if it is statistics

Yes, even for homework

Or calculator. Calculator is still allowed at test because I vaguely remember borrowing one because I forgot mine

[azure lynx]

was only calculators. no network stuff.

[opaque wharf]

Yes, only caulculator

The old school scientific calculator, casio

[azure lynx]

if they have to show work, i think they are not just cooked they might have boiled dry.

[opaque wharf]

That's what I'm saying. They have to show work but if they understand where those numbers come from, then it is the form of "too tedious to do manually, automate it instead". Because I assume the person knows desmos, I think they at least know basic math

I didn't know desmos could be used to do linear interpolation for example

So that person may have been using desmos for a while or search it up online. I assume the former

[azure lynx]

i've only ever used it to visualize functions, never for analysis.
but I know it's powerful coz someone made Bad Apple in it.

[silent island]

tbf, my teacher specifically instructed everyone in my class to use excel (so that we wouldn't have to calculate the regression manually) but fuck it I decided to use desmos instead lmao

[silent island]

yup, I know how to utilize desmos for the types of questions that need it

[opaque wharf]

Then naah, you're good. Just put the explanation of how it works under the hood. If your teacher is specifically teaching how to use excel, then you're cooked

[silent island]

nah, my teacher be like: "class, just use excel for today's hw so that y'all wouldnt have to go through the pain of calculating everything manually" without actually teaching how to use excel for this type of math problem lmao
thats why I used desmos, cuz im already familiar w/ it.

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, I assume it is uni stuff? If the lecturer is young they're usually more chill about it

[silent island]

nah, senior year hs

[opaque wharf]

Even better. HS teacher usually doesn't get paid enough to care in ID

[silent island]

and most of em aren't aware that desmos exists lmao
im totally gatekeeping ts

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, quite sad really. It is a good teaching tools. Not much video got translated to ID either from creator like 3blue1brown, or numberphile

Language barrier sucks lol

[silent island]

if they knew desmos exists, it would get banned asap. cuz they'd think desmos just freely giving out correct answers to students. Even tho thats not true

[opaque wharf]

Naah, that depends on the teacher. But knowing our country, the majority of it will do exactly that lol

My hs teacher used to ask me how to make interactive lesson. At that time, I only know manim and not desmos so the barrier for her is quite high

But she did use geogebra

[silent island]

if only i knew desmos as early as starting hs, I'd be the straight A student cuz of desmos lmaooo

[silent island]

no shit, even UTBK's (Indonesia's national college entrance exam) questions are solvable using desmos lmaooo (not all of em, but the majority of them are)

[opaque wharf]

I came from a time where national exam is still a thing. And I choose physics as my subject, so that wouldn't help much

It was either physics, chemistry or biology. I suck at memorization so there is only one option

[silent island]

obviously, cuz that's outside of desmos' usecase

[silent island]

Although, lowkey, I think SAT questions are a lot easier than UTBK's questions (even tho both are solvable w/ desmos)

[true hemlock]

out of all my past classmates barely anyone passed UTBK

though i don't really know myself how was it because i got to skip 12th grade and went straight for international uni and left indonesia

but oh well indonesian education is fucked regardless lmao

[glass jetty]

i not just cheated by asking LLM to find it, i just used NSE instead of WSE

[glass jetty]

how long time ago you left Indonesia?

[true hemlock]

last year, had to do college first in there but it was still owned by an international uni

[silent island]

bru, I barely managed to get a 500/1000 on my utbk prep tests. Meanwhile, I'm getting a consistent 1300+ on my bluebook practices (for my SAT prep)

[true hemlock]

SAT felt way easier yeah

[silent island]

R&W lowkey a pain tho

[true hemlock]

[glass jetty]

is country growing or declining?
i not know what is better place to migrate to, i also look toward low-but-growing economy countries, i gonna (search for) remote work anyway

[true hemlock]

i still could not find this thing in Australia :(

import fees are pain

[true hemlock]

economy sort of worsen though i'd not willing to go through the politics

though almost everything there was dirt cheap

[glass jetty]

NZ and Australia will be countries that i want to look for, but in first place, you have to find a job there

[true hemlock]

depending on how good you are at finding deals, $3 could get you 4 pieces of fried chicken and 3 rice balls

but income there also suck

Australia's the opposite. high income but also high living cost

[glass jetty]

i gonna (search for) remote work anyway
rn i just wanna leave because of censorship and sanctions

[true hemlock]

also its pretty hard to get into Australia for job

visa's been getting rejected even on many institutions

[glass jetty]

the opposite. high income but also high living cost
that like, everywhere

[true hemlock]

workforce are barely accepted

[true hemlock]

except for third world countries which are... quite a lot

[glass jetty]

that is why i consider different places

[opaque wharf]

If you managed to get remote jobs from high income country, ID is not a bad place to live

Because for high income people, the economy doesn't affect them much

[true hemlock]

average people in Australia made a month worth of average income in Indonesia in just a single god damn day, sometimes half

[glass jetty]

i mean, if high economy, than median income and costs reasonably high as well

and opposite for mid and low economy, except countries with broken economy, not many of them now... will be more later on

[opaque wharf]

Put it this way. I know a guy who is a welder in czech. He lives very frugally there but can make enough to send to his wife and 2 child until they graduate uni

[opaque wharf]

In Indonesia

[true hemlock]

yeah the income difference

[glass jetty]

is indonesia economy growing or stagnate?

[true hemlock]

its insane how i could just work for a day or two here in Australia and paid like probably a semester worth of my little sister's school fees back in indonesia

[opaque wharf]

Declining

[true hemlock]

declining

absolutely declining

[glass jetty]

eh

well, than id better looking somewhere else

[silent island]

its only a matter of time before indo fullly collapses

[opaque wharf]

Hence why I said if you managed to get a remote job, it is not a bad place to live lmao. For high income people, they're not affected by much. Maybe spend less on luxury like brand fashion and stuff

[glass jetty]

i just push research further more from now
rn i have to make visa card and get a job in $ or euro

[opaque wharf]

Indeed

[true hemlock]

if you could get an international remote job and live in indonesia your life would be so damn easy with how cheap the living cost there, given that you don't spend your income lavishly

[glass jetty]

who need luxury, i want just place to sleep and shower, free and direct access to information, food,, and at least reasonable censorship (btw australia is questionable here)

[true hemlock]

lmao

[opaque wharf]

That's what I mean lol

[silent island]

yup, indo's by far the cheapest country to live in

[true hemlock]

well i'd say indonesian censorship isn't as bad as Australia rn but they block literally anything they thought is a matured site

including reddit for some reason

but not twitter lmfao

[opaque wharf]

Indonesian government doesn't censor much. Like, they are a facade so to speak but rarely enforced. If you speak against them however, sometimes they are enforced if it got enough attention

[silent island]

i can open reddit tho

[true hemlock]

i just visited my home town not long ago and i actually felt rich for the first time wth

[opaque wharf]

They block it, but not hard block it. It's as easy as changing dns

[true hemlock]

yeah

[opaque wharf]

Or even using dns over https

[silent island]

but indo's minimum wages suck

[opaque wharf]

That's why I said it is a facade lol

Just to please the general populace

[true hemlock]

what would you expect on the indonesian governing body for tech lmfao

[silent island]

failure

[true hemlock]

brought money from Australia

all you can eat buffet cost about $15 USD on average there

and you get to eat steak in there

[opaque wharf]

The funny thing is, that steak meat is highly likely imported from AU 💀

Because domestic production can't keep up with the consumption

[true hemlock]

in AU you could definitely get a decent grade 1KG steak for about $14 USD

if you find the right one

though on average its much more expensive

[opaque wharf]

Anyway, back to programming we go

[dark wing]

a

[true hemlock]

i am not returning to indo aside from short visits

[silent island]

visual studio heavy af

[true hemlock]

steal his letter

[silent cloak]

I was programming in my dreams

[glass jetty]

i can find one under $8

[dark wing]

[glass jetty]

just use nvim

cuz vsc also luggy

[opaque wharf]

Got some bomb LiFePO4 for my project finally

[silent cloak]

Tactical nuke

[glass jetty]

btw, i encountered lags in windows notepad today

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, but you should compare that with other GUI editor with lots of extension too

[silent island]

how? thats like the lightst windows program

[silent cloak]

Missed the news it seems

[silent island]

enlighten me

[glass jetty]

i opened big log file, and it froze

[azure lynx]

i blame the tabs.

[opaque wharf]

Windows is turning to shit day by day

[azure lynx]

oh. big files it always choked on.

use Ultraedit or something which has a "large file mode"

[glass jetty]

and than i opened it in notepad++ without lags

[silent cloak]

https://youtu.be/DsTlxRKkPyY

Crashes

[true hemlock]

i avoid win 11 like the plague

[azure lynx]

when i feel like using a gui editor i sometimes launch notepad from the command line.
but when wanna view large files in a gui i use UltraEdit because i paid for lifetime updates so damnit ima use them.

[uneven pulsar]

Its vast extensions and ecosystem makes it the worth
if you want get the open source version (code-oss)

[silent cloak]

Based

[true hemlock]

[glass jetty]

btw, did you know

windows in sleep

.. if you press keys on keyboard it wakes up

[opaque wharf]

I think that is expected behaviour no?

[uneven pulsar]

i didnt know that!

wow

[opaque wharf]

If it's hibernate however...

[uneven pulsar]

(i did know)

[uneven pulsar]

"Sleep"
"Hibernate"
Is my pc a living thing?

why does it need to sleep
or hibernate

[glass jetty]

what? on linux it isnt, that actually stupid, if you turn of pc, why would you expect it to turns on just by touching keyboard

[azure lynx]

hibernate is a deep sleep mode, see?

[glass jetty]

hibernate != sleep

[silent cloak]

I always disable both

[glass jetty]

they are completely different

[opaque wharf]

Which is why I make the distinction

[silent cloak]

My pc is on or off

[uneven pulsar]

its useful if you had laptops

[opaque wharf]

Because when sleeping, not everything is powered down

RAM must still have power

[uneven pulsar]

to save up the battery when you're gone at the moment but wanting to use your laptop later

[glass jetty]

no, sleep for laptop is absolute shit

only hibernate

[opaque wharf]

Hibernate is the one where you can't have input waking it up

[uneven pulsar]

or for PC if you want to
save up electricity bill

[glass jetty]

my laptop have uptime, like, maybe 4 month

because oh hibernation

[uneven pulsar]

i haven't encountered any issues with it honestly

[opaque wharf]

Because sleep is not turning it off. It just enters low power mode

[uneven pulsar]

exactly lol

[true hemlock]

10 months uptime, though never sleep nor hibernate

[opaque wharf]

And that is what is actually happening on the CPU and ACPI too

[azure lynx]

"sleep" is just the screen turning off. There's a lot more CPU and motherboard power management stuff happening too, but you notice the monitor turning off

[opaque wharf]

Read up the arch wiki for more info on the topic

[true hemlock]

electricity bill is questionable but im the same person who made an i9 13900 run at below 3W

[glass jetty]

and it is equal to turn off pc, when i use sleep, i probably not want it to be active in any way
just pressing anything right after sleep turn it back up

[uneven pulsar]

i had a dedicated display off on my laptop
it just turns the screen off but everything is still functional on the background

[opaque wharf]

It is not equal in any way whatsoever

[hard delta]

i suppose all 3 has use cases

[opaque wharf]

Indeed it does. Sleep is when you're going to take a break for example

[uneven pulsar]

it all comes down to personal preferences basically

[opaque wharf]

You still want the PC to go into the desktop

Hibernate is when you move place

And turn off when you're actually done using it

[azure lynx]

hibernate is to fake your long uptimes

[hard delta]

no the point of hibernate is to preserve the workflow

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, what windows call "shut down" when having fast boot is closer to hibernate lol

[hard delta]

and sleep is the easy version of that but requires power

[azure lynx]

yeah. it's so you can put it to sleep while you travel or something

[uneven pulsar]

just turn it off smh
you guys don't shutdown your mobile devices when done using it?

[opaque wharf]

I do lol

[glass jetty]

hibernate is purely software, i think... not sure
sleep really put cpu on sleep, it have much less actions happening during sleep
actually, probably it wait only on interrupts and nothing else happening
so it also dont require (that much) power or cooling

[opaque wharf]

My laptop is currently off. I boot to arch faster than from hibernate anyway because no stuff to load from disk

[opaque wharf]

Read up the arch wiki. It does provide a lot of info on what is sleep and hibernate is. Especially on linux

[glass jetty]

yeah but i want layout to be the same, i dont use tmux

do you have resume hook at the end or after.. autodetect? as i remember

[uneven pulsar]

Chat what's your last bios time
i'll go first

[glass jetty]

what is it?

first time see

[uneven pulsar]

Your boot time

from the bios to actually loading the OS

[glass jetty]

i have no idea

[uneven pulsar]

basically from bios -> desktop

[glass jetty]

that isnt only bios work
loader and os should do their work too

[uneven pulsar]

i don't know if linux had this kind of measurement built in though

[faint sandal]

there is iirc

[glass jetty]

quite sure it is lol
it is kernel lvl stuff

[uneven pulsar]

...that's what i said
what i mean is the process from bios to the desktop loading in

[faint sandal]

but if you have LUKS it'll count the time it takes to enter passphrase too

[nocturne olive]

I have no clue how to find out

[glass jetty]

but bios have nothing to do with loader and os startup work

[faint sandal]

yeah the closest you have it systemd-analyze

[glass jetty]

charaverk | ~/Music/main ~$ systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 7.166s (firmware) + 6.924s (loader) + 1.464s (kernel) + 16.331s (userspace) = 31.886s 
graphical.target reached after 16.317s in userspace

[uneven pulsar]

that isn't only bios work

[uneven pulsar]

7.1 seconds

i think

no wait that counts up all of the whole thing

[glass jetty]

yeah that what is firmware on motherboard

[nocturne olive]

Something something funny stats

[glass jetty]

17

[faint sandal]

turns out windows does too

[glass jetty]

you should do something with it, or at least check is it ok for your motherboard

interesting kernel you using

[nocturne olive]

I would really like to know why my kernel takes almost a minute to start up

[glass jetty]

what is your kernel?

[nocturne olive]

Linux 6.14

[glass jetty]

general?

[nocturne olive]

About 50% of the time it just sits on a black screen on startup

For a minute

[glass jetty]

this is stats from work pc, i may used hibernation, but idk

[opaque wharf]

Beeeg RAM maybe?

[nocturne olive]

64GB, should be fine?

[opaque wharf]

Idk, that's why I propose it lol

[nocturne olive]

This system

[glass jetty]

couldnt make 40 sec difference

[uneven pulsar]

oh damn
so the rest of it was just you entering the password i assume

[opaque wharf]

Or maybe the GPU is taking that long to boot up

[faint sandal]

yes

[queen ginkgo]

31 terabytes of storage

[nocturne olive]

Yes
Also I needs more

[glass jetty]

i waiting for a moment when new stuff will 'do not support x11'

[nocturne olive]

Please keep supporting X11 thank you until Wayland is actually at feature parity and usable

[opaque wharf]

That will not happen. X11 will still have support just like how tty modem still has support on linux

[nocturne olive]

Wayland still lacks critical features like being able to remote into it remotely or being able to programmatically get the positions and boundaries of windows on the screens and then move them

[uneven pulsar]

that's like
most of the linux userbase that are using X11

it has matured way more than wayland

[glass jetty]

wait, but x11 doenst support that.. oh, no, it just have issues with load order, etc
as i remember it OK for wayland, dont know about moving windows, but hyperland runs on wayland, so window manager can do it?

https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/application-windows.html#window-geometry

[nocturne olive]

Wayland mainly just sucks because it's GNOME dictated

[nocturne olive]

I mean moving windows from an app like Neurolings
Which is currently just not possible to do in a way that works across all compositors
Wayland has a major fragmentation problem and major GNOME problem

[rough bloom]

being able to remote into it remotely
straight up misinformation, it supports that
programmatically get the positions and boundaries of windows on the screens and then move them
compositor-specific because it's intentionally not standardized, but implementing it for something like Neurolings is very possible if you just expose the right API (like wl_shimeji does)

[faint sandal]

does rustdesk support wayland properly yet

[noble zodiac]

Wayland being a very low level protocol with a trash reference implementation was their biggest mistake

everyone out there reinventing the wheel and introducing unique flavors of bugs

[glass jetty]

who need remote connect to graphic shell now, for real

[opaque wharf]

Well, I do sometimes need it to access higher performance computer at home

[faint sandal]

i thought the premise of AI is there's no need for it to sleep

[glass jetty]

servers down

[faint sandal]

24/7 labor and all that

[opaque wharf]

"The claude code doesn't need to sleep"

[glass jetty]

busy wait is the way

[stuck pasture]

Neuro sleeps so idk what ur talking about

[faint sandal]

no she's just handcranking the generator to power the lavalamp

[opaque wharf]

So that's why she's crying on latest paccha art

[faint sandal]

overworked

[opaque wharf]

Poor tony can't catch a break

[nocturne olive]

Discord looks pretty graphical to me

[glass jetty]

so, use it, on your local device

[nocturne olive]

I do everything on my own machine, I can't be bothered to set up Discord on my remote laptop

[glass jetty]

pretty sure you dont connect directly to your x server

[nocturne olive]

I use X11VNC

Which I start over SSH

And tunnel over SSH

[glass jetty]

what the fuck is wrong with you

[nocturne olive]

I like remote access stuff?

I've been using a remote connection setup for like 3 years now

First DRP for a while, then switching to VNC

[faint sandal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-InE1Nebnj8

[rough bloom]

it's a website
you can just open the website

[faint sandal]

[nocturne olive]

I can't be bothered to log in on my remote laptop and especially not use Discord without my plugins

[faint sandal]

the mod is injectable via userscript

because... it's a website

[rough bloom]

if only there was a built-in way to synchronize all your settings too

[nocturne olive]

What does it matter anyway, I like managing my PC remotely so I will continue to do so

[azure lynx]

it can save space if you run it without a monitor. that's the only excuse i can think of

[glass jetty]

direct connection to graphical server slower than connection through app, with optimizations and another layer for stability at least, for simplicity at most (no need of any sort of user configuration for port for example)
using stuff that was designed in 1980(?) and used only up to 2010, is like...
just checked out x11vnc github, That the point lol
last change 9 month ago : text
prev change 2 years ago: actual maintaining
and other changes, countable per year

[glass jetty]

why dont you just use ssh fr

[rough bloom]

new best gaming CPU

[nocturne olive]

I already do
But SSH can't do everything

[azure lynx]

SSH can't natively do GUI. so that's a solution.

[azure lynx]

could be it's perfect now.

[glass jetty]

direct connect to graphic server not sound like a good idea for me

[nocturne olive]

It works perfectly fine though

[uneven pulsar]

vnc:

[azure lynx]

VNC isn't secure by default.

needs to be tunneled over something to secure it

[nocturne olive]

Well I tunnel it over SSH, obviously

[uneven pulsar]

by default
get a secure one

[azure lynx]

a secure one would not be vnc: protocol.

it would be a hack on top of a VNC server which required a special client

SSH has support for tunneling other network protocols over already trusted connections.

nothing special needed to make it secure.

[opaque wharf]

I am still baffled at how amazing ssh is designed lol

[nocturne olive]

SSH is peak

[rough bloom]

+4 FPS

[opaque wharf]

Let's face it, hardware has peaked. Now it's time for software optimization to be back

[nocturne olive]

Huge

[azure lynx]

so my next computer will last a lifetime? i better spend big

[rough bloom]

TOFU isn't always great but can't really have a better default without telling everyone to just become a CA
generally a very nice protocol, tunneling + sftp are very convenient

[azure lynx]

for something so widely used to have so few major vulnerabilities is impressive.

[opaque wharf]

I mean how they anticipate future protocol expansion with ease and generally backward-forward compatibility between client-server

TOFU can always be overcome with side channel communication. Which, for your own machine is not a big deal

[obsidian mantle]

how the hell do i fix walls blocking objects with which the skyrim bot wants to interact

so sometimes it comes up to the thing but its behind the corner

idk i can probably make it interact through wall

or ignore it and send "cant reach" message

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

throw raytracing invisible ball to see if it collides with wall and try to wiggle

[opaque wharf]

I see your problem. You're trying to make jank games acting logically

[obsidian mantle]

im using native skyrim pathfinding spell and its not giving super accurate results sometims

its still enough to walk around and pick flowers for example

imagine catching butterflies wouldnt that be cool

escape from prison should be good enough too

that would need some work

and fighting bot
wait actually now i look at it, just walk, lock onto and smash the target

ranged weapons sound tricky though

[obsidian mantle]

it looks suprisingly good overall, no trace of shit happening in backend

the bot just walks where you told it and nothing seems to be off

it really looks similar to how minecraft bot walks

[opaque wharf]

I wonder what geneva suggestion Neuro would break if she is integrated to skyrim

[azure lynx]

speedrunner strat

[obsidian mantle]

add ability to use cheats

[azure lynx]

"your bot is using hacks! ban them!"

;]

[obsidian mantle]

the more i look into it the more shit i see that will require a lot of work

for example, what do i do with puzzles

[opaque wharf]

To be fair, games are famously not enterprise software

[azure lynx]

how do puzzles work?
like what does a player see vs what the API exposes?

[obsidian mantle]

i can get a list of interactive objects that fall into "skyrim puzzle" category like thosse rotating stones

i probably can get out their current states/positions

then....

[azure lynx]

i imagine some status updates will make it easier than others

[obsidian mantle]

give some kind of text hint on what to do with it

so its like

puzzle but textbased

not just answer but something more complex

"there is metal plate with fish on the right, bear on the left" bla bla

[azure lynx]

"move object1 to place2. move object 2 to place 1. move object 1 to object2." type thing

[obsidian mantle]

and then i tell it how keystones are aligned and they have to figure out

at least skyrim puzzles do not have much variety

that will save my ass

[azure lynx]

do you think they'll be easy enough to brute force without any clever tricks?

[obsidian mantle]

the most common one is 3 stones with 3 positions each

so just 9 combinations

however there is at least one puzzle that involves something more sophisticated

[opaque wharf]

Lock pick?

[obsidian mantle]

4 stones, 1st rotates other 3, 2nd rotates other 2, 3rd rotates the last one

[obsidian mantle]

lockpicking is done (unless i will want to do some improvements)

currently i just ask for pick angle to try and it tries giving out how good it was

[cosmic sphinx]

https://fixupx.com/testingcatalog/status/2016512802748309545?s=20

google will be.. collecting even more data

TestingCatalog News 🗞 (@testingcatalog)

BREAKING 🚨: Google is testing Voice Cloning on AI Studio, potentially ahead of the anticipated Gemini 3 Flash Native Audio upgrade.
︀︀
︀︀Users will be able to record and upload their own voices to let Gemini clone them.
︀︀
︀︀Soon? 👀

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FixupX · Jan 28, 2026, 2:04 PM

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, soon finally every people will realize digital media can easily be faked. So hopefully it will increase people awareness

[cosmic sphinx]

finally starting to see 1-bit/2-bit applications to SOTA OS models, god bless them for trying this out
(obviously, i wont be running that large of a model anytime soon, but a 60% decrease in parameters is insane if it keeps nearly same performance)

https://fixupx.com/UnslothAI/status/2016511345311834293?s=20

Unsloth AI (@UnslothAI)

You can now run Kimi K2.5 locally! 🔥
︀︀
︀︀We shrank the 1T model to 240GB (-60%) via Dynamic 1-bit.
︀︀
︀︀Run at >40 tok/s on 240GB VRAM/RAM.
︀︀
︀︀2-bit is recommended as it passes our code tests. Run near full precision on 622GB.
︀︀
︀︀Guide: unsloth.ai/docs/models/kimi-k2.5
︀︀GGUF: huggingface.co/unsloth/Kimi-K2.5-GGUF

Quoting Kimi.ai (@Kimi_Moonshot)
︀
🥝 Meet Kimi K2.5, Open-Source Visual Agentic Intelligence.
︀︀
︀︀🔹 Global SOTA on Agentic Benchmarks: HLE full set (50.2%), BrowseComp (74.9%)
︀︀🔹 Open-source SOTA on Vision and Coding: MMMU Pro (78.5%), VideoMMMU (86.6%), SWE-bench Verified (76.8%)
︀︀🔹 Code with Taste: turn chats, images & videos into aesthetic websites with expressive motion.
︀︀🔹 Agent Swarm (Beta): self-directed agents working in parallel, at scale. Up to 100 sub-agents, 1,500 tool calls, 4.5× faster compared with single-agent setup.
︀︀-…

FixupX · Jan 28, 2026, 1:59 PM

[opaque sigil]

that is one chonker model damn

[opaque wharf]

1TB.... That's the size of my whole laptop nvme ssd

[cosmic sphinx]

unfortunately no amount of compression will help with a model as large as 1 trillion params
but it will actually ease up hardware requirements for providers with enough equipment

[opaque sigil]

2TB bf16

[cosmic sphinx]

💀

[opaque sigil]

all it takes is a single b300 for the 1-bit version

[opaque wharf]

1 trillion param will be higher than 1TB no? Because of the metadata and such

[cosmic sphinx]

2 tb in total

[opaque sigil]

oh also speaking of kimi k2.5, apparently kilo code made it free for a week if anyone wants to play around with it

[nocturne olive]

So they compensated for lack of bits with huge parameters

[cosmic sphinx]

kimi came out as any other model 16-bit with 1 trillion

unsloth compressed it to 2-bit

[nocturne olive]

Such weirdly gigantic model

Who even needs models that big when a 30B runs perfectly well on a 3090 at an actually usable precision

[cosmic sphinx]

considering that its said to be as good as 4.5 opus and gemini 3.0 pro and the rest of SOTA

all of those models likely have a gigantic amount of parameters

but unlike all those it's opensource

[nocturne olive]

It's just brute-force
LLMs are at a cliffside that just keeps getting steeper

[cosmic sphinx]

maybe, maybe not

[nocturne olive]

Soon the cliffside will begin going backwards, if it hasn't already

[cosmic sphinx]

depends on training methods that they use
atp everyone focuses on RL

[nocturne olive]

They should completely switch off from LLMs

And go to something less stupid

[opaque sigil]

let me guess, like vocal synth

[cosmic sphinx]

if there was something as good as LLMs and more efficient, they would have already done that lmao

[opaque sigil]

replace LLMs with SLMs, trust

[nocturne olive]

Vocal synth is cool, sure
But in this case I wasn't talking about that

[cosmic sphinx]

diffusion models are a thing, but still ways off from LLM quality

[opaque sigil]

gemini diffusion 2 when google

[manic jacinth]

Just sharing my current hyperfixation on hyperdimensional vector-symbolic algebra:

https://www.hd-computing.com/home

http://gigasquidsoftware.com/blog/2022/12/31/vector-symbolic-architectures-in-clojure/

https://techxplore.com/news/2023-03-architecture-combines-deep-neural-networks.html

Using random 10k-element vectors of {-1,0,1} assigned to arbitrary concepts/data, one can bind concepts together (multiplication), bundle them up (addition) and iterate over them in sequence (permutation/rotation) all encoded in a single array. its incredibly exciting stuff

The most exciting for me is plugging this in to small-param (up to 30B) models. Assign a hypervector to each* embedding and use hypevector algebra select relevant embeddings and go from there

[tight swallow]

I've been working on my own ai today, was working fine earlier, now i keep getting an error 22, after trying numerous code changes, ive even tried old versions of my ai's code (which io know worked) and getting the same issue everytime. thus my ai's brain isn't receiving the input from the gui. Is there any resource I can look up that anyone knows of any chnages that occurred today? am in VS Code using python.

[nocturne olive]

If you're using Python, you'd know if your code is causing the error by there being a stacktrace
If it's not that, it's likely something like a file permission error or just whatever OS you're using not knowing how to function and needing a reboot

[stray dragon]

gui not working might mean connection issue, depends on gui tbh

i would expect it to have a local-hosted web ui though, which means probably some sort of connection issue or nothing to register the gui input

if it's just in the terminal though it would be easy to debug

[tight swallow]

Thank you, rebooting has helped

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1452612577145262183/3DNeuroCutenessAmbushWithBeautifulScenery.gif

t

[stray dragon]

hi konii

[sage crag]

hit t

[stray dragon]

don't hit t

[sage crag]

ogey

[stray dragon]

that would be mean

[sage crag]

me sory

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421861060507602944/1425936142754123927/neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf.webp

[olive sable]

Hi konii

[sage crag]

hit sam

[olive sable]

I failed 2 of my exams

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

Its out of 20

[sage crag]

why did you fail

[opaque wharf]

My dude, both of those subject should be your expertise no?

[fiery anchor]

Bachelor of Arts?

[opaque wharf]

Game dev

[olive sable]

Well you see

Foundation included art history

[opaque wharf]

[olive sable]

And if there's one thing im unable to remember, its art

I dont give a fuck that johannes vermeer painted a cow

[opaque wharf]

What about 3D? You delve into that before the game engine no?

[olive sable]

Just lack of time

[opaque wharf]

RIP

[olive sable]

The people that passed have no life

I heard from my classmate he didnt do newyears or Christmas cuz he was working on 3D

[opaque wharf]

Wait the 3D exam is take home to make 3D stuff?

[solid bough]

Am I overfitting?

[nocturne olive]

Na it's probly fine

[spark vortex]

hello nerds

[warped narwhal]

my new microphone arrived today

and it sounds like shit

[patent shard]

[olive sable]

80% of the score is ye

anyways

the 140W usb-c arrived

i bought a 20 euro cable for it cuz they said it didnt come with a cabl

and it did come with a cable

so now i have 2 140W cables i guess

Those ugreen people wasting my money

i should be able to charge my tablet at 45W now. before it would go down in battery while charging if the lcd brightness was too high

[mighty thorn]

God what I would do for all of my classes to involve my major and not be low effort reruns of high school

[olive sable]

you should have chosen a better major

[amber fractal]

gotta let those in rural areas catch up

Speaking of which, I got told that I'm in a rural area

Sam can contest to how funny that phrase is

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

I don't think under any metric a city of this size is rural

[olive sable]

when i think rural, i think of viillages

[amber fractal]

not when the population is 100k+

Sure if you count 10% of the major city as rural then go off ig, but I don't think that is correct

[cobalt sigil]

looks like fun subjects

[olive sable]

[uneven pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hug-angry-birds-catbird-really-meme-no-fake-gif-9980836029424925531

[olive sable]

[azure lynx]

It's a bat. or a curd.

does it want to hunt itself?

probably a bat. it looks like a flying mammal.

[burnt marsh]

i made a cool thing:
https://github.com/alyfrillnya/NeuroSync

[tough dove]

[quick condor]

No git?

[glad path]

cool

[cobalt sigil]

cool

[opaque wharf]

You should look into photogrammetry next time

[olive sable]

do you think they wont notice the random 5 milion polygon model?

the whole point is good topology

and using trim textures and tiling textures

[opaque wharf]

I don't know how easy it is between fixing topology of a scan or making one from scratch

[olive sable]

a scan is close to worthless if you want good topology

[opaque wharf]

When the vfx artist jumps into gamedev moment lol

I remember the legendary toothbrush from yandere dev

[opaque wharf]

So in the end you choose the computer vision way

[azure lynx]

if there is a light background behind the lamp, the lamp color itself will go white. it usually is shown with a black background but there are several scenes where it can be white sometimes. i think it adds the color to the background

[rigid snow]

“fixing topology” would be retopology in this case

which means

doing the whole thing yourself anyway

[azure lynx]

having the pointcloud from some photos would be helpful sometimes when you're making a new model but mostly to help you work out approximate dimensions. converting it directly into topology would suck and be bad.

[glad path]

huh

i swear ive heard that somewhere

[opaque wharf]

Allegedly, the toothbrush model used in yandere simulator is very high in polygon count for what it is. It'a around 5k poly I believe?

[olive sable]

ye

5.5K

they replaced it with a new one tho

which is still too high poly

[opaque wharf]

Lmao, 1k poly is wack for a props

[olive sable]

994 for a toothbrush is still way too much

[azure lynx]

2 boxes

handle, bristles

[opaque wharf]

Then do those acerola grass thingy?

[azure lynx]

3 if you're being fancy

[olive sable]

no

already too much compute for a toothbrush

literally jsut a box with a 128x128 texture

for the bristles

[azure lynx]

the only justification for why it should be more detailed is if it's a first-person perspective and you put the toothbrush right up near the camera

[opaque wharf]

That's some oddly specific thing in a game lol

[olive sable]

it is true

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-cat-shaking-cat-alien-cat-gif-17719290639671130907

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

belongs as a post on the blender subreddit

[azure lynx]

caption: toothbrush's perspective

[glad path]

what did the 5k one look like

ok

om

it doesnt even look good

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/topology-3d-blender-show-topology-meme-gif-8835705237096910437

[olive sable]

classic edelweiss

[azure lynx]

hmm.. this model lets you average voices. i wonder if i could also do "make a voice that is the difference of voices A and B added to voice C."

[nocturne olive]

(A-B)+C

[azure lynx]

kinda like embeddings with ("king" - "male" + "female") gives you something like "queen", would be interesting to see how it affects them

[faint sandal]

[azure lynx]

ooo.. i wonder what happens when you remove "the average off all british people" from a british person and add "the average of all american people"

[floral wraith]

Does anyone know how i can optimize Ny AI for 56 cores of my CPU? IT doesn't need to be Long Term Just for a few days BC the GPU IS coming afterwards

[opaque sigil]

Assuming you use something like llama.cpp there should be nothing to do since they already have optimised simd kernels

[nocturne olive]

Just use llama.cpp and tell it how many cores to use

Also how big may the model be?

[opaque sigil]

onnx might help I guess if it can fuse some stuff

[floral wraith]

Fr idk i mean i tried a few and every Model is okay for step one but there IS a Bit more

[floral wraith]

I will Look into that thx

[nocturne olive]

The model size will determine if the GPU you're getting will be actually able to run it or you're stuck with CPU forever

[azure lynx]

what are you doing now? and what sort of models?

[nocturne olive]

If it's a public model, which model is it?

[floral wraith]

Ik that but i meant for the Projekt and idk what model IT will BE (maybe 2 BC i need Something that is good with Databases

[nocturne olive]

Well what GPU are you getting?

[azure lynx]

what do you have currently that you need to optimize? without knowing that, it's not possible to give meaningful or useful advice.

[floral wraith]

3060 with 12 GB vram

[nocturne olive]

Well you're basically stuck with very small models

8B is basically optimal size for you

[floral wraith]

I mean ik what IT can handle ik what Models i will use my only question was If there IS any way how i can optimize the model on the CPU

[azure lynx]

optimize WHAT model?

[nocturne olive]

No not really on CPU the best you can do is just give it all the cores

[azure lynx]

what are you doing now

[nocturne olive]

Assuming you're using llama.cpp which is basically as optimized as it gets for CPU

[azure lynx]

coz you might already be doing it optimally.

are you actually running anything or just planning?

[floral wraith]

Yea i do that and other question when i use the CPU and gpu Like on the CPU IS the Database and everything that IT needs and on the GPU is the model would that be very slow or would it be fine to use

[nocturne olive]

Databases are CPU tasks, LLMs are GPU tasks, that's a perfectly normal configuration

[azure lynx]

. . .

[nocturne olive]

Communication between the CPU and GPU during LLM inference is minimal, so it won't be a bottleneck for database interaction

A GPU isn't really any good for running a database on either way, a DB on GPU would be very stupid

[floral wraith]

Ik but the Database IS Not a normal Database ITS a vector Database for the Model that is why i Had the question

[nocturne olive]

Well I doubt it still makes any sense to put it on the GPU, especially with that little memory

[floral wraith]

I am running some Things

[floral wraith]

Yea that was my thought too

[kindred spade]

Assuming you are using llama.cpp for inference there are a few things you can try out to optimize performance, e.g. play around with the

• number of threads --threads <n>
• batch size --batch-size <n>
• context length -c <n>
• max number of generated tokens -n <n>

[azure lynx]

not even going to ask why you only answered the least useful question.

and didn't say what you were running. someone else had to guess.

it helps to say "I'm trying XYZ with ABC and am having problems with JKL"

[floral wraith]

Sorry but i read what you Said

[floral wraith]

But XYZ and Abc a Not Something that makes a difference for jkl

[azure lynx]

you wanted to optimize an undefined system

can't help.

[floral wraith]

Batch size and context length was nothing that i tried will do that thx

[opaque sigil]

gpu-accelerated database engine

[kindred spade]

btw once you get your GPU you are also not limited to 8b models, with options like flash attention, kv-cache quantization (and offloading of MoE layers for MoE models) you can easily run something like GPT-OSS-20b (just don't expect it to run fast when it does not fit into the GPU 😂 )

[floral wraith]

Just for fun i tried llama 70b and IT Runs okay on the CPU you have Like 20 min wait time but IT works AS Long AS you have enough RAM

[fast pagoda]

240w or bust (i have yet to need full 240 from any usb c device except laptops)

[nocturne olive]

20B, 30B, 70B, you can run it, as long as you have enough RAM

[olive sable]

the brick is only 140W

[fast pagoda]

load 1 layer at a time

then unload

for real slowness

[fast pagoda]

F

[olive sable]

im fine with 140w

[fast pagoda]

i feel like it'd be harder to find 140w cables than 240

[opaque wharf]

Has anyone tried making their own PCB with various method?

[fast pagoda]

as in, making and etching at hoem? or ordering

[opaque wharf]

I have access to toner transfer, msla 3d printer, and dry uv film with inkjet

[opaque wharf]

At home

[fast pagoda]

do the usagi electric special and cnc dummy thicc traces

[opaque wharf]

I need smt with 2mm pitch. And I don't have access to cnc router/mill for now

[fast pagoda]

next time i fly over mouser ill use my giant sky magnet and grab some

[opaque wharf]

I don't want to try all 3 just to experiment that's why I ask here first in case someone else here has done it before lol

[fast pagoda]

simply waste infinity money

[olive sable]

im just using 240w cables

[fast pagoda]

certified samvanmaele action to still refer to them as 140 because they are only using 140

[olive sable]

i said the brick was 140w

[fast pagoda]

[olive sable]

thats yesterday

that dont count

[fast pagoda]

new year new me

[olive sable]

i was a different person yesterday

[fast pagoda]

it was not yet 12 hours ago

memory wipe

12:01 am

[faint sandal]

"Chad Seaman" what a name

[hard delta]

he ain't afraid of drowning or sharks

[olive sable]

el psy kongroo

[jagged turtle]

what the hell am I looking at?

is this the average roblox game root directory?

[amber fractal]

Gotta try harder than that

[hard raptor]

why are people pirating Xfer OTT lmao.. you can literally download it for free on the Xfer website since it's freeware

[kind nimbus]

This looks like a beginner CTF challenge lmao

[faint sandal]

first line in the code and it already explodes because the attacker forgot to replace the placeholder string

[kind nimbus]

Yeah [APP_PROXY_PATH] is clearly not base64 lmao

[maiden geyser]

are they smart

[faint sandal]

no

[glass jetty]

what is that, like why?

[true hemlock]

is this deadass

[faint sandal]

(un)fortunately

https://www.threads.com/@t8506091/post/DUFhbRYEXaj

jensen huang going around handing out sandwiches

[true hemlock]

bro got side quest

[dusty niche]

No that's the Roblox's engine source code (aka Client + Server Hoster source code

Yes it also includes the source code for studio

It's from 2016 btw

early 2016

[jagged turtle]

surely it's been improved since then

[dusty niche]

Yep it was

There's also the 2012 source code out there

but it hasn't been leaked yet

And possibly 2020 and 2022

https://github.com/Artifaqt/ROBLOX2016 this is it here btw

Can be easily compiled if you have the contribs

I've compiled it one time

[glass jetty]

10 years ago

[dusty niche]

It has been recoded these days btw

a team of people

rewrote the entire client

and added new things to it

[obsidian mantle]

bethesda made actor bounds so big the pathfinder cannot find path through places where player can clearly walk through

tried 3 ways to fix this and nothing works

cant hook function that gets the bounds, cant get the bounds properties themselves

disaster

[fickle rain]

Does 2022 have their code obfuscation stuffs

[fickle rain]

What forbids you from the hooking? Function is smaller than 5 bytes needed for hook?

[obsidian mantle]

idk how it works, i have examples on how to hook virtual functions and it always works

but this one isnt virtual

its a function within some class

[fickle rain]

Say no more
https://github.com/cursey/safetyhook

[obsidian mantle]

actually there is instance where i hook non virtual function but it uses some kind of address that is being got with id

idk id for this one

or maybe i use it wrongly

[fickle rain]

Can’t you find it?

[obsidian mantle]

the library im using already has hook mechanisms

i just dont know how to use it in this case

[obsidian mantle]

i found something about the "cant get the bounds properties themselves" part

maybe this will work out

[fickle rain]

I can only assume the ID stuff has some ID to RVA mapping?

[tender river]

hi programmers i bring you a poll

[sage crag]

i was gonna make a poll

but i knew it would be one sided

[tender river]

im not like the other girls

i compute overflowing time ranges by doing b-a+24

[sage crag]

actually due to the commutative property you are like other girls

[tender river]

like other girls

[tender river]

true!

what did mods have to remove

[opaque wharf]

No bime?

[tender river]

#programming message

[opaque wharf]

But vue is green

[solid bough]

Okay
So the test line or train line would go up when it is classical overfitting?

[nocturne olive]

Test line

[solid bough]

Okay

So I guess I can continue even when the curve looks like that as long both trend downwards ig

[stone badge]

if you think about it recursion is like wearing a socks

[solid bough]

I had personal experience what Python thinks of recursion

[opaque wharf]

What?

[opaque sigil]

nono it makes sense

you don't do it

[opaque wharf]

WHAT?!

You don't wear socks when wearing shoes?!

[opaque sigil]

oh i do

[solid bough]

Every time the function is called aspy def main(): print("HAHAHAHAHAHAHA") main() main()could be described as if every time you call the funtion that you put on a pair of socks because Every time the function get's called, a return adress is needed for that which can't go on forever.

[opaque sigil]

could be described as python sucks and doesn't do tail call optimisation

[midnight sigil]

don't subtract Blue with Archive and add 24 on it

[opaque wharf]

It was just such a weird analogy lol

I know what tail call optimization is. But I don't see how it relates to socks

[solid bough]

Long story short: a list that keeps track what function is getting called is getting overwhelmed

I could show it in a few seconds

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, I know in high level how recursion is implemented on language like python

[opaque sigil]

no wtf does recursion have to do with socks

[sage crag]

something i said

maybe

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1326950159279722560.webp?size=48&name=susge&lossless=true

[midnight sigil]

idk cuz recursions are layering architectures and socks are layering as well?

[opaque wharf]

You layer socks?!

[tender river]

no zep so you're fine probably

[midnight sigil]

no I don't

[sage crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1339512171213754399.gif?size=160&name=evil+clown+jam&lossless=true

[midnight sigil]

:mlntcandy:

[solid bough]

Pretty much if that list is overwhelmed, the interpreter is gonna have a stroke:

[opaque wharf]

@stone badge look at the confusion that your statement has caused

[solid bough]

And yes, I didn't need to make that, but I felt like it

[midnight sigil]

recursion doesn't have to be a circulated call inside one, or multiple functions

it can be just a chain/stack of functions that is not ending

[solid bough]

Well, I know of that one...

[solid bough]

Ah, that too

[midnight sigil]

socks kinda make sense, as you need to solve top layer to bottom layer

idk

i'm self-imagining to try to supplement this metaphor

[solid bough]

True, And I do get what you mean

I can check how the call stack looks after some usage of my code

[midnight sigil]

whoever get confused has skill issues

[opaque wharf]

I don't ever layer socks

[opaque sigil]

you also live in hell tbf

[opaque wharf]

Which is why I never need to layer clothes. If anything, I could do with less clothing sometimes

[opaque sigil]

i only layer socks when wearing knitted socks from my grandma, which is to say never in the past decade or so

[solid bough]

That is mids init what the call stack looks like on my code...

Toast, is that a simple call stack?

[opaque sigil]

[solid bough]

Sounds good to me

[sly badge]

wth im programming in C and just discovered C doesnt support function overloading

[opaque sigil]

there's _Generic which sort of gives you this but manually

[opaque wharf]

There is a way but you shouldn't do that

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, but you probably should not tbh

[opaque sigil]

alternatively just use c++, that's what i do

[eager echo]

By python

[glass jetty]

@analog junco plz add support for this, accessibility thing, whatever it called
i like using this site, but having to grab mouse every time i want to list songs, or use touchpad - i not like it.
if contributions are welcome, plz give me link to github and i will figure out how to do it myself
probably html have special arguments/parameters/attributes, idk now

also, if in playlist div i try to use scrolling, it just scroll down to that div, and doesnt notify* songs list, affect ability to use jk from vimium

i may formulate it badly, tell me if you dont understand i will record video

[analog junco]

can you tell me a little about what this is? It’s my first time seeing it

[mighty thorn]

BLT is crazy for text vector regression

[fast pagoda]

wcag stuff

screen readers and whatnot want things wrapped in defined tags to programmatically allow them 2 support on the fly

aria tags etc

https://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG22/quickref/

some people even fully abled will use these tools cuz they can make you into a wizard if you are good at them tbh

[analog junco]

Oh i see

[fast pagoda]

biggest quickie fixiez just looking at the f12 worst offenders are buttons without text already part of them will just get called like

button

so you'd want to add aria-label attr to any of those

the random song acts like a button but isn't one by attributes rn so a wcag tool will just see it as the generic it is

[mossy fossil]

Nobody:

My Humble Kingston Exodia (64 GB): Ventoy with Windows Embedded 7 POSREADY , Windows Embedded Industry 8.1, Windows 10 LTSC and Windows 11 LTSC. Also... Hiren's BootCD PE, Linux Mint 22.3 XFCE, Porteus XFCE (both 32-bit and 64-bit), rescuezilla, salix live 15.0 (32-bit), Ubuntu Server 24.04.3 and Memtest86+ (Both 32 and 64-bit versions)... And i still have 26 GB Free. (All Windows Versions are 64-bit only. Why? Because i think Win32 doesn't really matter that much, if you're daily-driving a Pentium 4, might as well use salix. Ubuntu server is there because who knows, maybe you're setting up an ubuntu server instance today, you never know in the world of IT)

...i may have over-prepared this USB

[fast pagoda]

ideally each image should have alt="" attribute for screen readers, the worst one he's describing is definitely the button thing because random song is not focusable at all by wcag tools

it's currently in there as a generic (div/span) not a <button> or <a>

the setlist ideally would also be a list type

<ul>/<li> or role="list" /role="listitem"

[analog junco]

gotcha. I didn’t account for those when working on it lol.

Thanks for explaining. I will look into it when i have time and see what i can do

[fast pagoda]

i dont ever remember to think about it until i look at console in browser and accidentally open accessibility and see

this is in console though, just look for accessibility and it will have a tree of aria attributes and stuff to make it easier

once you add them

since im already staring at it those button items, and alt text for images are ez but big

especially giving random a real div will instantly fix him being able to use it w/ keyboard in like 1 change

and then later on look at giving your nested <nav> divs aria tags to make it able to figure out what it's for, descriptions basically

oh and the play buttons on trending cards have no labels (as you've noted, they're all like this, but for quiccness fixing i'd go for the high traffic first obv)

[analog junco]

got it

[fast pagoda]

all those yellow label-y things in his screenshot are basically his tool going what the FUGKK IS THIS TAG G

this one even done said ah fkkkkk

[analog junco]

Those are the favorite, download and action buttons. It only shows up when you hover over a row tho

[fast pagoda]

ah i didnt know (havent messed w/ the site)

it highlights them and everything because it juist reads the dom tree

it'll ignore them if they're labeled (unless appropriate for context)

it just sees the generic button div and shits them out because it's not sure what to do other than say yep this here is a button

[analog junco]

learning something new today

[fast pagoda]

this one should be more visible (in the overall mindshare sense) imo but it's very easy to gloss over

until you get the most heartbreaking message of all tiem like

"im a disabled certified hamster care expert and all my fingers have been chewed off over time, so i can't use your site as it appears there's no labels on fucking anything, thanks"

nobody remembers it exists until someone that needs it comes along and ...fortunately...? they're very rare

me included

i feel it's not very well disseminated info even though yes technically the standards exist

[analog junco]

Lmaooo

[analog junco]

Yep that’s true. First time i’d heard about it today

[fast pagoda]

always feels bad man to neglect them because theyre usually very sweet genuine people just unable to use the tools we take for granted like
a mouse

luckily it's easy stuff and generally just makes your life easier for maintenance purposes once theyre in anyways

[nocturne olive]

Hello what happens here today?

[fast pagoda]

i am a certified "why the hell do i need to put all these fucking tags bro i know what it is" enjoeyr

and then lose my mind when @nocturne olive asks for one(1) thing because i shortcutted 3 seconds 50 times and now i've got an avalanche of my own laziness overflowing

[nocturne olive]

Wuh

Well anyway my network cable is absolutely cooked, I now need to reconnect and reset my network every 10 seconds with a script to have a half-functional internet

[fast pagoda]

was talking about aria labels and div attributing and the existence of the accessibility tree/tools etc

sheesh

[nocturne olive]

It was 60 before, now it's 10

[fast pagoda]

brother

https://tenor.com/view/boi-spongebob-rage-gif-1079789998347984343

[feral cobalt]

i just made a few pull requests to the neuro sdk, yippee

[feral cobalt]

also, waht

[nocturne olive]

Script that makes my network actually work like half the time

[feral cobalt]

;-;

[nocturne olive]

My cable is definitely cooked

[autumn kestrel]

[fast pagoda]

70 gigawatts of generation capacity are superbox-sinked from him keeping every single power state at wide open on every device on his system to patch jig it into giving the illusion of partially kinda working

billions of seals have cried

[olive sable]

i guess 24 - 21 + 7
i don't really do the first part manually tho, i instantly think "that's 3"

[nocturne olive]

Wah

[olive sable]

goodmorning