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opaque wharf
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But that's just how I set things up

glass jetty
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yeah thats why i downloaded video in ms

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it just discord issue

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restart page ...

stray dragon
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small indie company

glass jetty
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and it still dont loads

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btw

stray dragon
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weird, should be fine then

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discord moment

knotty obsidian
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I can see the Gifs.

glass jetty
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any video can be downloaded and played btw

knotty obsidian
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Maybe it works.

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K

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Is anyone available ?

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Ok.

glass jetty
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wdym?

stray dragon
final tinsel
glass jetty
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kek

opaque wharf
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10:1 ratio is insane

final tinsel
opaque wharf
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Even here we usually have 1:1

final tinsel
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discord cmon you have plenty of internet, why no load gifs

stray dragon
final tinsel
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router is up a floor and across the house

stray dragon
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well, there's your problem.

final tinsel
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but antenna is pointed directly at router

stray dragon
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wifi always has issues like this it seems

final tinsel
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its still only 39ms ping so it shouldnt be this bad lol

stray dragon
final tinsel
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yea ik theres more to it

stray dragon
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i'm guessing packet loss

final tinsel
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fair

stray dragon
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shiro also had this same issue yesterday

final tinsel
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running a speedtest in browser instead of in the pc app cuz pc app speedtest sucks

stray dragon
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true!

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(i've never used the pc app)

final tinsel
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still no packet loss info like on mobile guh

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almost doxxed myself there but caught it lol

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wait a minute the desktop app does give loss info

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it says 0.0% for that test

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hm

stray dragon
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i love my silly 1 ping

stray dragon
final tinsel
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well the gifs are loading fast now

stray dragon
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networking stuff is dark sorcery.

final tinsel
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5G home internet do be RNG powered vedalShrug

final tinsel
stray dragon
final tinsel
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i guess lol

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for most places ive been (in the US at least) its common for download to be significantly higher than upload

stray dragon
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i'm in denver

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colorado

final tinsel
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hm

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interesting

stray dragon
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lived elsewhere in colorado before and had 18 download 0.5 upload lol

final tinsel
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the only time i can recall when ive had equal or higher upload was when I was visiting family in the netherlands

stray dragon
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1/1 gigabit common in big cities i'm guessing

final tinsel
stray dragon
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i do believe most "midwest" servers offered by various services are located here so that could also be a factor

final tinsel
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mm fair

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if i was communicating with a server in denver i would have a minimum of 10ms ping simply because of the speed of light lol

stray dragon
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so you're 3000km away, i see

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time to doxx

final tinsel
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i added a bit of margin plus i calculated round trip

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nice try neuroTroll

maiden geyser
stray dragon
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damn it

stray dragon
maiden geyser
# stray dragon no?

yes, i probably could even find it, if i didn't have to dig through 4000 speedtest results

stray dragon
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i can't find any way to see raw data results from ookla speedtest except from a dataset with 2024 data

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how are you getting the results

maiden geyser
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lightshot-esque way

olive sable
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Goodmorning

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It is friday neuro3D

stray dragon
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which i clearly didn't show anything but numbers in

real sierra
stray dragon
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download, upload, and ping values

real sierra
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is this a black mirror episode

maiden geyser
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in a sense, anyone with a correct url can find them

stray dragon
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oh i see now

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so i'd somehow have to guess a number with 11 digits

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yeah that's private enough.

maiden geyser
stray dragon
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ah so it's ordered chronologically

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huh there is an actual way to find it then

maiden geyser
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still a lot since they're not related

real sierra
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what's this

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are we discussing the privacy of screenshot links or something

olive sable
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Fans arrived neuroHypers

maiden geyser
glass jetty
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turns out my eyes dont like small text

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so i end up using 120% scale for all pages

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now its nice

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what to do, what to do...

real sierra
azure lynx
glass jetty
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so i just scaled up x1.2 and its fine now

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also, its 1080

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configuration: depth=32 driver=i915 latency=0 mode=1920x1080 resolution=1920,1080 visual=truecolor

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-# now waiting for discord to fully support anchors

void bramble
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Yo chat, long time no see. Imma go sleep now. Hope yall had a good day today. Bye neuroHeart neuro7

glass jetty
void bramble
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Oh sh it’s programming chat

azure lynx
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reminds me of me coming home after doing something wrong and heading straight for my room.

void bramble
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Nvm,
console.WriteLn(“bye, chat, love ya all”)

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hahah

azure lynx
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"what do you mean? my hair has always been this color."

glass jetty
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heh

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purple or blue?

azure lynx
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red, but yeah ;]

glass jetty
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close NeuroTease

opaque wharf
azure lynx
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your horror game should include an ingame purchase option for buying a real chainsaw from walmart to defend yourself

real sierra
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and that scares me lol

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the subliminal messaging is insane

azure lynx
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"oh no! I'm being chased by a pretty good deal on grape flavored gatorade! the only way to stop it damaging my "good deal" sense is to purchase it!"

opaque wharf
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Meh, if it's no different than a product placement on say, an in game minimarket, then as I said, it just adds to the immersion. Of course obnoxious ads would be avoided like how we avoid pop ups. But yeah, I can also see how it could be misused

real sierra
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it's the scale though

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product placement right now only really happens often in movies as far as I can tell

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and it's only a handful of products at most

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this would be opt-in by developers and widespread

azure lynx
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there are some terrible video games but generally yeah.

real sierra
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so it has the potential to be rampant in upcoming games

azure lynx
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like there are games which are just "here is mario bros or whatever but you are the product"

real sierra
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I can also see some potential for manipulating the branding with the API's terms of use, e.g. imagine a line that said "Products from the API must not be presented in a disparaging or destructive way"

opaque wharf
real sierra
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so you have to implicitly shill the products if you want revenue

opaque wharf
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But I guess the C suite would beg to differ

azure lynx
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"GTA6 lets you loot Walmart" ;]

real sierra
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it'd be meta as hell if a game using this API was sold at walmart

opaque wharf
real sierra
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there must be surely

azure lynx
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"I know it's supposed to be a FPS, but could you stop shooting for a minute while I order dinner?"

real sierra
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no way they'd miss out on that revenue stream

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big titles at least

opaque wharf
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Well, I only know that walmart as a grocery store not a general store

azure lynx
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it's a big box store

real sierra
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but yeah I have some fears of this API

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think about what Google's advertising API did to mobile apps

azure lynx
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sorta.

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actually, it's just a geneally everything store

real sierra
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PC gaming is a much more immersive format that traditional ads aren't successful in

opaque wharf
real sierra
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but something like what Walmart is offering might get real traction

real sierra
azure lynx
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they could make a better app with it maybe. just model the stores and put the items in the right places

opaque wharf
real sierra
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you can only get so immersive

opaque wharf
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Something intangible might be harder to incorporate to a game to promotr

real sierra
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at some level you'll see products and know that they came from the API

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imagine seeing the same trending products in every game you play

azure lynx
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"oh that's a box of cereal in the game" vs "that's a picture of a box of ceral on a screen in the game"

real sierra
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reappearing like overused unity store assets

opaque wharf
azure lynx
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i wonder if any product that isn't box or a cylinder will be represented

opaque wharf
glass jetty
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even in cyberpank usually there no such thing as delivery
delivery is just boring irl thing, to avoid traffic for yourself and any sort of interaction

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why discord so laggy

azure lynx
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they're saying (and I giggled) that it could even be used by AAA games. i hope it's uses proper 3d objects with decent skins

opaque wharf
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Well, let's just see where it goes lol. I am kinda interested on how it would change pc gaming

opaque wharf
real sierra
glass jetty
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and no one noticed it has only 1k views>

azure lynx
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hmm. i think there would have to be agreements for things like name brand shoes being used in a game. licensing will mean you can't just have any brand allowed in any game.... even putting Coke in a random game should be difficult. i imagine it'll be with just certain product lines.

glass jetty
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lets ruin games more

opaque wharf
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I'm imagining farming simulator is about to get real lol

opaque sigil
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supermarket simulator update lets gooooo

azure lynx
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"what do i do with the 5000 packets of seeds and large watering can I bought? I thought it was just upgrading my tools in farmville!"

opaque wharf
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Farming without leaving your room is insane thought

glass jetty
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btw, my not original battery for some reasons ignore this threshold
idk why battery do it, i thought it is task for controller

charaverk | ~ ~$ cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_control_end_threshold 
80
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that sad

azure lynx
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someone needs to make a quick game called "Framing Simulator 2026" and have it so you make different shaped wooden frames by clicking sizes and shapes. and make the video on steam for it look as much like a farm simulator as you can (perhaps you have to grow trees or something so you highlight that aspect). Ideally someone with a game engine already installed and nothing else to do.

opaque wharf
real sierra
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I see this API as a way for Walmart to increase its digital ad surface and their inventory of product placement venues

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but you could say Walmart is still the one placing those ads, as is possible by the conditions and properties of those digital locations as set by the developer

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so it's kinda like you're leasing space in your game to Walmart and Walmart uses it under their existing marketplace agreements with brands

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or that's how I see it at least

real sierra
azure lynx
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i'm pretty sure no brand would want to be associated with "Meth Lab Andy", where all the precursors for the end product are bought from Walmart. Even if the ingredients were not what you'd actually use to make drugs (like eggs, milk, some AAA batteries, and some cling wrap), people would rush to distance themself from it.

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rock paper scissors except you have to actually purchase a paving stone, a ream of paper, or a pair of scissors.

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or you lose.

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"Virtual Walmart Greeter". Gain score multipliers when you have purchased items shoppers ask you about.

olive sable
azure lynx
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[2026-01-23 14:14:16.425] [debug] GateModel: Starting generation...
[2026-01-23 14:14:16.428] [debug] Unhandled event type: 2
check_node_graph_compatibility: disabling CUDA graphs due to batch size > 1 [sa_out-0] [1152 45 1 1]
[2026-01-23 14:14:17.808] [info] GateModel Summary:  The user is requesting to check their account balance. The number is the key to the account.

Priority: High

Explanation: The user is explicitly asking for account balance information, which is a critical function.

Yeah... not going to use that model to summarize inputs. 😮

nocturne olive
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So I just found out a new stupid thing
Hard drives are 2x as expensive as they used to be
Now, this wouldn't be an issue if my 8TBs weren't getting so close to full I need to get like a 16TB drive

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OPENAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

opaque sigil
azure lynx
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i think i've got enough storage to backup my main drive. but i'll need to somehow join them all together or do it in like 5 chunks. maybe when I'm working out how to do it I'll realize 1TB of it is duplicated so i can use fewer chunks.

fiery anchor
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You can always delete stuff.

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Your Files, your account balance, openai, your choice.

olive sable
opaque sigil
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gdpr overrides tos

fiery anchor
olive sable
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i wouldnt know

fiery anchor
opaque sigil
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i wish i could disagree neuroSadge

olive sable
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id guess especially for ai, the user data is more profitable even with the possible fines than not collecting it

opaque sigil
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i'd agree but gdpr fines can be very brutal, they fine you a percentage of your global revenue

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same goes with the dsa actually FOCUS

olive sable
patent shard
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Looks like you can get basic 4k displays for $200 now

olive sable
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im geussing its pretty bad ips

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but still ips

patent shard
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Low brightness and just basic, yeah

opaque sigil
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ah i remember now, repeat infringements of the DMA get as high as 20%

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which is uhh, a bit huh

patent shard
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I'm sure the panel itself is fine
Don't expect the highest IPS response time scores and there's no HDR, of course

olive sable
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its probably good enough

opaque sigil
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this isn't even a basic 4k display, you can get 4k60 ones for way cheaper too

patent shard
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I consider low refresh rate to be garbage

opaque sigil
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fair

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i didn't know they made dual mode ips panels actually, neat

patent shard
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Even just for non gaming purposes.. 60 fps is extremely bleh

unkempt citrus
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60 fps is fine, unless you're used to higher

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Higher FPS is like a drug

olive sable
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i think dualmode is mainly cuz of the displycontroller not being able to do the full res and full refreshrate at the same time

opaque sigil
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may as well get a 75hz panel tbf, they're about the same cost

olive sable
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so the panel itself is 4K 288hz i think

unkempt citrus
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You don't need it, but god, once you get it do you want it, and you don't want to stop, even as it loses its shine

azure lynx
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higher FPS video sometimes looks too fake.

patent shard
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I like around 30 for a cinematic experience mhm

olive sable
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most cameras and stuff record at 60, 30, or 24
so 120fps feels weird sometimes ye

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makes me deeply suspicious

patent shard
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Even 120 fps in games can look weird

opaque sigil
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avatar was 48fps right

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or am i tripping

olive sable
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i wouldnt know

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was avatar 3D mayhaps?

opaque sigil
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i was right, it's 48fps

olive sable
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cus then 48hz means 24 left 24 right

opaque sigil
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some 3d scenes run at 48fps to make it less jarring

sage crag
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wrr

opaque sigil
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something like that

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though the switch from 24 to 48 itself is kind of jarring FOCUS

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there was a weird neurological reason behind it

sage crag
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120fps video looks fine to me

olive sable
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to do 3D they split the refresh rate between your eyes. so 48 total just means 24 for each eye

opaque sigil
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no it's 48fps for both

azure lynx
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i just couldn't stand the story of Avatar so stopped watching it.

olive sable
azure lynx
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they kinda made a big deal that it was higher FPS

opaque sigil
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it's to help with the 3d strain some people experience

azure lynx
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but they also say "no CGI" (for other films obv)

opaque sigil
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i don't remember the exact specifics

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who said that, the whole movie is cgi

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oh

olive sable
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so then the actual video file was 96fps

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interesting

azure lynx
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they often give partial specs of what they're doing. the kind of thing someone higher up would here and be impressed by. so it could be either

olive sable
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ye

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thats the thing

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when you're buying projectors especially

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most projectors still have 3D built in

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and then they can get away with calling their projector 240hz

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eventho its only 120, but for each eye

azure lynx
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they technically could run a 240fps film through it though and just tell you not to wear the glasses

olive sable
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this is the one i have at home

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cuz of the 3D they are allowed to call it 480hz

opaque sigil
azure lynx
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the only bug left when I finally went to run it was so stupid I even noticed it and thought "perhaps there is something special about substr() and negative numbers i don't remember... Gemini seems to know what it's doing:

        if (currentOutput_.length() >= 11) { // length of <|thought|>
             std::string tail = currentOutput_.substr(currentOutput_.length() - 20); // Check last 20 chars

obv the 20 should be 11, but it wrote those lines one after the other. like it knew what it was doing. ;/

real sierra
olive sable
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i forgot epson made printers

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i only know them for projectors

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every school ive been in has projectors from either epson or benq

azure lynx
nocturne olive
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Hem

kind nimbus
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I mean I have to store my Linux ISOs somewhere

olive sable
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14.6TB of linux ISOs???

vernal summit
azure lynx
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perhaps also VMs with each image?

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(i mean they need to make sure they work, right?)

fiery anchor
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and always have them ready?

opaque sigil
olive sable
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what

opaque sigil
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just do it

olive sable
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oh

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its not as bad as i expected

opaque sigil
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what did you expect om

olive sable
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from urban dictionary i have certain expectations

opaque sigil
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i guess that's fair

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the internet is an interesting place

olive sable
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humans are weird creatures

opaque sigil
azure lynx
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i'm pretty sure Neuro isn't allowed to go to urban dictionary

sage crag
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wrr wrr wrr wrr

azure lynx
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what would Neuro ask ChatGPT? or have they done that already?

quick condor
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Im dead

kind nimbus
kind nimbus
low latch
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I found out it's easier to buy a secondhand ender 3

warped narwhal
azure lynx
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instead of a typical "success" status message, it should rant for a bit to deflect blame from itself in this whole sad affair.

real sierra
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any unity users here?

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inputsystem question dejj

quasi furnace
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Chat, I want to add a toggleable overlay for a plugin I'm making but I want it to impact performance to the least degree possible, what python option should I use BijouThinkHmm

olive sable
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ill hav learned unity by then

real sierra
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unity is mostly intuitive it just has quirks

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a lot of quirks

olive sable
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im doingunity in school

real sierra
olive sable
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my free time is for my own engine

real sierra
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can i make fumoquest in your engine]

olive sable
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New case fans look good neuroHypers

quasi furnace
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specs

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?

olive sable
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5950x, 3090, ddr4 64gb 3600

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2tb 990pro, 2tb sn850x, 16tb hdd

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also 2 220gb sata ssds

gritty dust
real sierra
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every day my 32gb seems smaller and smaller

olive sable
olive sable
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but na its mainly for blender

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the end-user of my games should be fine with 4gb or less ignoring their OS

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thats the goal at least

real sierra
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i mean

fiery anchor
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overfilled my ram at work twice today, causing a complete freeze which required a force shutdown. 32gb isn't enough anymore.

real sierra
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my struggle is that windows, unity and this vm im using to ssh into konii's vps each eat 1/3 of my ram

olive sable
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ah

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ye

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32gb is fine for normal users

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but for gamedev and power-users you'd want 48gb or more

mossy fossil
fiery anchor
mossy fossil
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i actually do use linux, and have a history of distro hopping

real sierra
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wsl is kinda annoying for stuff like this

young plover
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WSL is a hyper-v VM

real sierra
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ive used putty in the past

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but its annoying to go download

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i already have the vm set up

fiery anchor
young plover
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🤔 I just use OpenSSH from Windows. Isn't that installed by default these days?

real sierra
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i mean i cant complain about the vm ram use too much

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its higher than it needs to be

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but its set that way for another project

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so i don't want to change it

fiery anchor
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hmmm... or sth. like apache guacamole could be a even better solution. kinda pain to set up though, iirc

olive sable
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ye

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there are some ways you could solve it

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and otherwise buy more ram

fiery anchor
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oh no. Those download more ram jokes will come back, won't they.

silent island
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Ive become so desperate for nvmes that Im salvaging my old laptop for an nvme lmaooo

spark vortex
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oops i should probably convert to mp4..

olive sable
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mkv NeuroBounce

real sierra
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classic it's mkv isnt it

silent cloak
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My beloved format for my home server

real sierra
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cipher

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perfect

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just the person i was looking for

fiery anchor
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run

real sierra
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i'm trying to do something hacky to get a console on my unity dedicated server build

real sierra
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as you may have guessed, unity is not designed for that

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do i actually need to worry about using AttachConsole or will it probably just work

spark vortex
# spark vortex

box select and return to origin! as well as some changes to the save/load system

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I added projects within projects

real sierra
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i have huge respect for anyone who implements drag-and-drop UI elements

spark vortex
real sierra
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having had my own attempts, drag-and-drop sucks

real sierra
spark vortex
real sierra
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tho i prefer obsidian for the type of notes i take

silent cloak
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I always built my own console

real sierra
spark vortex
real sierra
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there is no graphics

silent cloak
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Let me see what I can do

real sierra
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so i need to use a system console lol

real sierra
spark vortex
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which i dont like

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Im planning to release this app on neocities for anyone to use! :D

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since its a static app

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well webapp technically

silent cloak
sage crag
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...
$value := specialise(V, .(
    .(void, fn(): This return .{value: idk}),
    .(@Any(), fn(v: V): This return .{value: v})
))
...

func_a := fn(): Result(void, void) {
    return .value() // no arguments
}

func_b := fn(): Result(i32, void) {
    return .value(101) // one argument
}

i made a bad thing

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struct specialisation here we come vedalStonks

real sierra
sage crag
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technically doesnt even need to be a function

silent cloak
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Ive had to make them for some jobs before

real sierra
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i think i have something for it but yeah i just need to know if it'll work

silent island
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Can i fit a 2242 drive on a 2280 slot?
I guess not...

stray dragon
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day ruined

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i have static ips but at what cost

stray dragon
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it's shorter though so gravity shouldn't pull it out as easily

silent island
silent island
opaque sigil
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just tape it down or sth (electrical tape)

stray dragon
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you can put the heat sink over it, and then tape around to attach it properly to the heat sink

opaque sigil
stray dragon
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no tape on the board directly + cooling

fiery anchor
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there are motherboards where you can move the screwpost for smaller ssds

stray dragon
jagged turtle
opaque sigil
jagged turtle
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(actually it kinda is but also kinda breaks as soon as I open 7 vscode tabs + discord + browser)

stray dragon
olive sable
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hmmm

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how easy is it to put custom firmware on a galaxy watch?

opaque sigil
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you can't

olive sable
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and how easy is it to make custom firmware?

olive sable
opaque sigil
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fun fact: samsung actively blocks you from downloading watch firmware from their servers but phones they don't seem to care about

olive sable
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if i cant change the firmware i guess ill need to just make it an app?

opaque sigil
silent island
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I haven't opened my loq yet to confirm, but this is also a 2242 standoff, right?
If so, thank god...

opaque sigil
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looks like it yeah

olive sable
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uh

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i cant really tell, but it probably is?

stray dragon
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yeah, looks to be

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pixel measurement matches up

opaque sigil
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could've made the battery bigger neuroSadge

olive sable
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they probably have a version with a bigger battery

opaque sigil
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or maybe it's a weight thing

silent island
olive sable
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ye they do

silent island
opaque sigil
olive sable
opaque sigil
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ah better

olive sable
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5052 mah

opaque sigil
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an extra 20Wh, nice

olive sable
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other is 3789 mah

silent island
opaque sigil
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if only there wasn't that 100Wh limit neuroSadge

silent island
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Its not like gaming laptops generally have good battery life anyway. So, a bigger battery is futile

opaque sigil
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there are non-gaming laptops enub

silent island
silent island
olive sable
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the battery in my gaming laptop is just to keep the ram alive while im moving the laptop enub

opaque sigil
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idk i haven't paid much attention to laptops in years neurolingSlep

olive sable
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they're still shit in battery life

silent island
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Not surprised, if it weren't for portability, laptops are pointless when u have a desktop

olive sable
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some are slightly more power efficient, but those are rare

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its mainly the amd igpu ones that dont die after 5 min form what ive heard

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the intel igpus also have decent battery life, but they jsut dont count as gaming laptops imgKEKW

silent island
real sierra
#

tbh just take out the battery and give me a bigger gpu

#

im not gaming without wifi anyway

#

i value the portability for moving between places but im not gaming until i reach my destination

silent island
olive sable
#

its mainly cooling you need tbf, not better gpu

silent island
olive sable
#

those gpus are pretty underclocked

real sierra
#

cooling is pretty tricky in such a small chassis

silent island
#

All laptops need atleast 2 fans

olive sable
#

ye

spark vortex
#

it's now technically usable for storyboarding as i fixed the image functionality

olive sable
#

mine has 2 and still thermal throttles

real sierra
#

water cooling seems like it'd be a good idea no? in a confined scenario like that where the limitation is flow rate of your cooling medium?

silent island
real sierra
#

no battery leaves space for a big ol heat exchanger

silent island
olive sable
#

12500h, and a 3050 4gb neurOMEGALUL
it still manages to get pretty got even with the pretty copper everywhere

real sierra
olive sable
real sierra
#

replace battery with a radiator and heat exchanger that goes along the back of the laptop

real sierra
olive sable
#

water is good for moving heat, but you still need to cool the water somewhere

real sierra
#

yeah

#

do it along back of laptop

olive sable
#

eh

olive sable
#

top would require going through the hinge

#

and you'd be killing your display

silent island
#

And for sum reason, them gaming laptops sound like a jet engine PS4

olive sable
#

bottom jsut gets the same issue as regular laptop fans

#

you're basically just replacing heatpipes with waterpipes

silent island
olive sable
#

the only way watercooling in a laptop is meaningfull is with an external radiator

olive sable
#

so they sacrefice noise for more cooling

#

consoles are allowed to be thicc

#

having a thicker laptop would help a lot to be fair, but only us nerds would want those.
Regular users want thin laptops they can fit in their bags easily

silent island
olive sable
#

passive cooling catdespair

silent island
opaque sigil
#

cause passive cooling sucks om

#

unless you have a gigantic hunk of metal

olive sable
#

passive cooling toaster

silent island
#

Only overheats when playing demanding games or charging

opaque sigil
#

phones are not passively cooled lol

#

they rely on the physical miracle that are vapour chambers

#

actually, i guess you can count that as passive cooling enub

silent island
#

Hmm...

#

Gen chat over there are soo random that im lost lmaoooo

olive sable
#

my steam is segfaulting catdespair

opaque sigil
#

did you update your system by any chance

silent cloak
#

do u use steam through command line?

olive sable
#

no

#

but it didnt launch the normal way

silk jackal
#

Any of you guys dabble with game development or AI (not the ChatGPT kind)?

olive sable
#

ye

#

i do gamedev

#

not ai tho

olive sable
#

so ye

unkempt citrus
#

Ive done some ML stuff

silent cloak
#

mostly game dev

#

game dev got me into ai technically

opaque sigil
olive sable
#

uhm

#

i have no clue

opaque sigil
#

that's the binary that's launched by the .desktop file at least

azure lynx
#

maybe just typing "steam" in teh console

silk jackal
#

At work I thought about a little AI buddy for streamers who aren’t quite used to talking yet. If anything it’d be a good project to add to my resume (because I sure need more!) 😅

azure lynx
#

what would the AI buddy do?

silk jackal
#

Just talk to the streamer. Something to help get them used to talking 🤷‍♂️

azure lynx
#

what about it makes it specifically for streamers?

silk jackal
#

The story of Vedal and Neuro kinda inspired me lol

olive sable
#

guys

#

i have a magic trick

#

now im a man

#

now im a woman

olive sable
#

should zoom it in a bit

silent island
olive sable
#

no

#

this is just a woman

#

my character, my canon

azure lynx
azure lynx
#

do you have any experience programming?

real sierra
#

i made a change to the fumoquest dedicated server

#

and it's segfaulting now

azure lynx
#

everyone's code segfaulting must be because i removed the bug from my code and it had to go somewhere else.

#

sorry.

real sierra
#

it's c# code...

olive sable
#

restarting my pc seems to have fixed steam

#

weird

azure lynx
#

that's why they always tell you to turn your router off and on again. coz it works.

#

maybe some resource was blocked by a previously crashed process somehow, making steam crash every time it restarted and restarting cleared the thing blocking it?

silk jackal
jagged turtle
azure lynx
#

most "AI" is just a python script which loads some libraries and those libraries load a model (LLM). Because things like ChatGPT exist and people want to copy them, there are simple interfaces for the AI side.
as for making it a "buddy" of some sort, I assume you want some form of TTS and some form of visual avatar on the screen.
The TTS can be done easily. And "some form" of avatar can be done simply (you could e.g. have a series of images which you switch between depending on state. state could be as simple as "speaking" and "not speaking". more complicated could be some form of 3d model and weighted blending between poses depending on ... pretty much anything you wanted.
TTS itself can either be a remote API or something local like the LLM, a model you load locally, often from a python script too.
synchronizing the TTS and visual elements is left as an exercise for the interested reader.

#

you're probably also going to want ASR (automated speech recognition) for input, which is usually again another model

real sierra
olive sable
#

invalid elf

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so im geussing they ran out of elfs

real sierra
olive sable
#

gabe must be santa clauss

real sierra
#

thats a special kind of fucked up

#

corrupted install surely

olive sable
#

nah it works after rebooting

#

im in FF14 rn

silk jackal
spark vortex
#

basic math but still, i had to modify some of the code lol

#

I think this is finally becoming functional!!

#

I'm trying to keep things modular

zenith bronze
#

hi guys Im new here can someone help me with AI please 🥹 Im freshman of CS thoo

azure lynx
#

learn python, and then it's usually just a matter of finding the right model for your task.

true hemlock
#

through a bunch of deals and stuff

#

the lowest i can find a 16GB ddr4 dimm is at $40

#

fck

empty rivet
silent cloak
#

gonna have to start growing it on trees

silk jackal
#

@azure lynx is this Hugging Face site useful for this project of mine?

stable bough
#

hi chat

#

thinking make a Game, c# in unity is best option for me?
i want less code possible and anime style stuff

olive sable
#

uh

#

if you want to code as litle as possible thats gonan be hard

#

youll have to do a lot in either the art or the code department for anime style

silk jackal
#

I mean, visual scripting is an option in some engines, but it’s limited iirc

olive sable
#

ye

#

and with anime style you'll have to do at least some scripting

stable bough
#

thaks for all the replies, I am attentive

unkempt citrus
#

They lean towards TTS/CV/LLMs/Generative stuff/STT

stable bough
olive sable
#

if you manage to grab an off-the-shelf anime shader, and some models, and all your object textures in anime style

unkempt citrus
#

w3 schools is very good

stable bough
#

nice

unkempt citrus
#

as a reference

olive sable
#

you still need to get the actual story or whatever

unkempt citrus
#

For teaching not as great

#

BUt still useful

stable bough
#

I am not learning C++ because as far as I know is complicated and is on unreal engine (I hate UE)

olive sable
#

its just a language

#

UE5 happens to use it

#

doesnt mean the language is bad for that

stable bough
#

C++ is NOT easy to debug on big projects, is true?

olive sable
#

eh

#

sometimes it is, sometimes it isnt

stable bough
#

like c++ can get crazy to debug it, is true?

olive sable
#

but i make my own engine in c++ and i manage

stable bough
#

but C# is easy to find where is the error, is correct?

stable bough
olive sable
#

dep[ends on the rror

#

but overall C# is easier i think for debugging

stable bough
#

also linus towards hates C++ and linus for me is a referent

olive sable
#

if you wanne follow linus torvalds, use C

stable bough
#

I am learning C to try make a kernel

unkempt citrus
#

How hard something is to debug tbh depends more on the IDE

stable bough
#

C is nice for low lvl managment, right?

unkempt citrus
#

thoughsome languages make it easier

#

yes

#

Rust and Go IMO are relatively easy to debug. Rust cos compiler, Go because its cleaner to write

olive sable
#

overall c++ isnt too difficult to debug, especially if you do proper version control

stable bough
#

can I code c++ in unity ?

#

I love unity

olive sable
#

L take

#

you can do c++ in unity i think?

#

but if you're doing unity you might aswell jsut go with C#

stable bough
#

I want to select the best tools for my purpose, I do not wanna fight debbuging

olive sable
#

then dont use unity

stable bough
#

wtf , wa u mean? help

#

🆘

olive sable
#

unity is a bit

#

weird sometimes

stable bough
#

but but should not...

olive sable
#

i hear a lot of people prefer godot

#

but idk about the 3D scene

stable bough
#

talking only about coding, is true that on C# do I need much less writting to do the same?

olive sable
#

for 2D godot is def better

#

eh

#

i dont think so

stable bough
amber fractal
#

custom engine xdx

olive sable
#

you're putting the bar too high

amber fractal
#

all of them su k

olive sable
#

VR is an afterthought

stable bough
olive sable
#

if you do it as the main thing you will die

stable bough
olive sable
#

catdespair im beginning to see what type of project this is

#

its an anime wife isnt it?

glass flower
stable bough
stable bough
olive sable
#

unity has a lot more tools cuz of it being old

#

godot is just overall okay

stable bough
#

the momery managment, C# is automatic as I know, is doing well ?

#

memory

olive sable
#

unity has a lot of weird quarcks that people jsut managed to get around over the years

stable bough
#

the trash colector memory

olive sable
stable bough
amber fractal
olive sable
stable bough
#

vibecoding helps too ?

silent cloak
#

out of all the public engines currently none beat unity

stable bough
real sierra
#

but most of them should not be quirks I have to get around in the first place

silk jackal
olive sable
stable bough
#

a question, the Derived Class (child) and Base Class (parent) is really common in RPG right ? just thiking about it

#

in C#

real sierra
#

?

olive sable
#

the games made with unreal that had effort put in are goodlooking

real sierra
#

parent and child are common notions in most engines with a hierarchical workspace

olive sable
real sierra
#

er I misread

real sierra
#

it's an inheritance question

stable bough
olive sable
#

im willign to bet 90% of games use inheritence

real sierra
#

that's common in most languages with OOP features

olive sable
#

doesnt mean you cant make a good game with unreal

#

i have issues with unreal, not games made with unreal

stable bough
silent cloak
#

uhhhhhhhhhhh

#

errrrmmmm

#

ECS

olive sable
#

in unity, all object inherit from "GameObject" no?

stable bough
#

IA will help me ? or is slop ?

silent cloak
#

yeah but its different internally

#

thats why they are offering another tool now to use the internal shit

real sierra
silent cloak
#

the Entities package

real sierra
#

it's not clear

#

GameObject is kinda special

stable bough
#

chatrevived

olive sable
#

its a container it seems, not a base class

silent cloak
#

exactly

#

though they do have default components in it

olive sable
#

so i guess not 90%

silent cloak
#

which u cant remove without the entities package

stable bough
#

package are functions ? I dont know

silent cloak
#

entities package is just an alternative layer to the current one in unity

#

letting u directly interact with the internal ECS and native stuff

#

which runs better but say bye to inheritance and alot of abstraction

olive sable
#

i do think unity games all use inheritence.

silent cloak
#

in the abstract layers yes

olive sable
#

"MonoBehaviour" i think gets inherited

silent cloak
#

yeah

#

thats the "managed" layers of unity

#

GC and all

faint sandal
stable bough
#

C can still organize data using structures , C++ uses classes.
But the class from c++ is a function template right? or I make the class from scratch?

#

I know C++ is just C with more stuff, so I could make my own class in C?

opaque sigil
#

you can but not with the same syntax since methods being a part of the class/struct is a language thing enub

young plover
#

I know C++ is just C with more stuff

opaque sigil
#

just a couple extra things

young plover
#

If you write C++ wrong, then yes

opaque sigil
#

you're writing c++ you already lost that battle

young plover
#

C++ is bad when other people write it and I need to review it
When I write C++ it's beautiful

#

DougDoug left an input validation bug in the website he just wrote on stream Kek

azure lynx
azure lynx
young plover
#

Yeah he tried to restrict it to 0-49 but didn't check that it's an integer
So anyone can fill the database with useless keys

unkempt citrus
#

smh, this is why you use a sqlite db instead of json store

young plover
unkempt citrus
amber fractal
#

Rewriting the entire project time neuroHypers neuroDespair

#

I just spent over two weeks doing the first rewrite

azure lynx
#

LLMs are not very smart. i have a test script where i ask my agent to count to 50.

...
<|thought|>Three. Okay, almost halfway. I'm trying to keep track.
...

yeah. almost halfway.

silent cloak
#

i mean yeah

amber fractal
silent cloak
#

they arent intelligent by the nature of how they are designed and created

amber fractal
#

All intellenge is just a byproduct of the data used to train them

silent cloak
#

correct

#

its like saying google is intelligent because its able to give me the results to whatever i put in the search bar

azure lynx
#

same with people though. you're only as smart as the data you can produce

silent cloak
#

well no people are able to think

#

change their minds and learn

amber fractal
#

people can iterate over inputs and abstract them into diffrent contexts to gain an understanding of the input

silent cloak
#

and for other unrelated areas too

#

which can help a lot

azure lynx
amber fractal
#

unless designed to emulate thinking no

silent cloak
#

the thinking emulations suck

#

its just reprompting itself

amber fractal
#

that is the study of CoT, but also has to be trained

azure lynx
silent cloak
#

CoT is literally just reprompting itself

amber fractal
silent cloak
#

again models dont think

#

its not continuous

#

it takes its own output and shoves it back into the input

#

creates the illusion of "thinking"

azure lynx
#

i think by processing the next most useful concept and iterating. i load the context with the ideas i think are related, set myself a goal and find myself solving problems or creating things.

silent cloak
#

its like having a person do half of an essay and then u go to another person to finish the rest

azure lynx
#

and perhaps people are the ones with the illusion of thought if you can't explain what it is.

unkempt citrus
#

Oh boy philosophy time

silent cloak
#

CoT is inserting another prompt with the existing one asking the model usually to "explain your thinking"

#

and then once the model "explains" its "thinking" it will resend it as a new input for it to use whatever it generated to make the final output

#

in reality it can just make stuff up and often does

#

because its not thinking its just "explaining it" before using that as a reference point

amber fractal
# silent cloak creates the illusion of "thinking"

An alternate of framing human thiking the iteration of editors like vim, where the whole point of them is to be able to jump from place to place to lay out thoughts. Those are designed to allow one to think in an non uniform way, being able to edit peices with ease or delete others.
LLMs move in only one direction and physically can't do that process themselves.

azure lynx
#

if you ask it to explain it's thinking post hoc, it will make stuff up because it doesn't know.
if you has it do think before explaiining, it has a scratchpad of space to organize it's ideas

silent cloak
azure lynx
#

so do you. how do you produce a sentence?

silent cloak
#

it will write something and then do something completely different

#

the point is its not thinking

#

its putting down what it "thinks" thinking would look like

#

creating the illusion of an intelligent thought process

hard delta
silent cloak
#

rather than predicting words (which is what its actually doing)

azure lynx
#

how do you choose the next word you will say? Do you pick them randomly or do you choose the best word to use?

young plover
azure lynx
#

and does the best word change depending on context? you bet

silent cloak
#

an ANN model predicts its word solely on the probability that the token should come next based on the initial input

#

its not thinking its not reasoning

#

its not basing knowledge on anything its just predicting using numbers within its model (that dont change)

azure lynx
# young plover see: Neuro playing wordle

i believe that is almost certainly an API issue with how she's being told what the current state of the board is. she keeps "hallucinating" letters that aren't in it. seems more like a bug in how it says "the 3rd letter, E, is correct. there is also a B and a K"

azure lynx
silent cloak
#

yes they can change

#

for an ANN they wont

#

ever

azure lynx
#

the context is like the prompt and the user input

silent cloak
#

because each time u input data its reset

#

u know what context is?

azure lynx
#

and their output

hard delta
#

hot take: humans are lange larguage moleds that do inferterence while aweke and treing while aslep

azure lynx
#

the kv cache

silent cloak
#

its feeding the history through the input all over again lmao

#

trust me ive been researching AI since 2017

azure lynx
#

explain to me how it produces meaningful sounding output.

silent cloak
#

because it has TBs of human text

#

language has structure

#

that structure can be broken down into math

azure lynx
#

and what does it do with that to produce the output

silent cloak
#

it takes whatever ur input was and figures out the next likely worlds to come out

azure lynx
#

and how does it use the input from the user in producing the output

#

and how is that not context?

silent cloak
#

based on the billion and trillions of convos it has saved

#

because its trained on multiple people talking together

#

the training data is split like that for a reason

azure lynx
#

oh. ok. keep going anyway.

silent cloak
#

thats why these data centers are massive and inefficient

#

because these models require so much human text to predict

young plover
silent cloak
#

because thats all its doing, predicting the next word

azure lynx
#

explain in detail how it predicts the next word.

#

coz i think you're missing some details in understanding how they work

hard delta
#

explain in detail which details are missing

silent cloak
#

i used to have a good gaph

azure lynx
#

how the context supplied is passed through the attention layers which affect the likelihoods of other nodes being activated in ways which are too complex to fully be able to predict for all inputs, but which because of their weights somehow manage to feed along to produce output that tends to show understanding.

silent cloak
#

but its not understanding anything

#

its using data of people who "understand" stuff

#

and just parroting it

hard delta
#

(that's a surprisingly human behavior btw)

silent cloak
#

parroting is all an LLM can do

#

atleast current ANN models

#

SNNs show promise

#

but we arent fully there yet

azure lynx
#

it can only say things it has seen before?

silent cloak
#

correct

#

or close enough patterns

#

it NEEDS existing data

#

it cant grow or change based on new data

#

all of that only exists in context

#

its neurons wont change because of context though

#

which is why it cant "learn" beyond the initial training

#

every action and choose u do in ur life will adjust ur neurons

#

for an LLM using an ANN they will remain fixed

azure lynx
#

the model can be used in a way which grows based on the data flowing through the model. using external storage and retrieval methods for example

silent cloak
#

again though RAG isnt learning its just another form of context

#

its neurons remain the same

azure lynx
#

ok. you convinced me by constant repetition.

silent cloak
#

if u want to see potential future models that CAN learn look into Spiking Neural Networks

#

or other new models that employ neural plasticity

#

but they are all experimental atm

hard delta
#

oh god we're already there aren't we

azure lynx
#

i don't care about the model. i care about the system. do you not understand the difference?

silent cloak
#

im talking about the model of the system architecture

hard delta
#

ok i think i can google translate here

silent cloak
#

chatgpt, claude, neuro-sama, etc are all ANN models

hard delta
#

bro is interested in the pipeline that is built around the constant model

#

because clearly that's where the magic is happening

silent cloak
#

has to look into transformer architecture then thats how the current LLMs operate

#

its not good or efficient but its what everyone is doing until something better comes along

azure lynx
#

the LLM can't learn. the system can. do you disagree in principle with that or are you in rant mode?

silent cloak
#

the system can "learn" technically yes

azure lynx
#

what do you mean "technically"?

silent cloak
#

well its learning all that its meant to learn which in the case of LLMs is how likely another word is to come after the current word

#

its what makes machine learning good for detecting things in photos and videos

hard delta
#

there was some movie i saw like 3 minutes of when i was little
a woman wakes up in an unfamiliar bed on an unfamiliar yacht, but there us a video tape titled watch me
it's a tl;dr of her explaining her life so far to herself since amnesia kicked in and she lost her ability to form new long term memories

azure lynx
#

i think you are confusing "the system (which has an LLM and can store and retrieve data persistently)" with "a file I downloaded that can be used to process tokenize language input"

silent cloak
#

thats what an LLM is though

real sierra
#

Are we fr

azure lynx
#

the LLM is the 2nd one.

silent cloak
#

ur input gets tokenized and processed by the LLM

azure lynx
#

and then in the first one, which is what i was meaning, it also able to remember things

silent cloak
#

not all of them work exactly like this but similarly

azure lynx
#

coz i know the model will never change. but every time it is used, it runs with different input.

silent cloak
#

yeah

#

it was a good stepping stone for AI progress

#

but it still just isnt "completed" yet people are still researching

#

tons and tons of new technology, algorithms, hardware

azure lynx
#

not making any claims about that.

#

was trying to solve why you keep thinking i mean "just the model by itself" all the time when i keep saying "the system of model + some memory magic" in so many ways.

silent cloak
#

model has a few different meanings these days thats why

#

sometimes its used for just the LLM weights and sometimes its used for the whole system design

azure lynx
silent cloak
#

i was referring to the general system

azure lynx
olive sable
azure lynx
#

and then like 3 times after that i said "LLM + memory storage and retrieval" in different ways

#

and i used the term system as well as model to contrast them.
not sure how much clearer I could've been without making zero typos.

#

sorry. was frustrating.

olive sable
#

it seems like btop also doesnt like the new nvidia driver

#

changing btop to (btop.override { cudaSupport = true; }) fixed it

#

maybe its cuz i removed cuda toolkit form my packages after blender didnt nee dit

opaque sigil
#

There's also btop-cuda

#

Same thing just with cudaSupport pre-enabled

azure lynx
#

obviously it's because of their socio-economically disadvantaged upbringing not giving them access to healthier options. if anyone is to blame it's the system.

#

(not the one containing the LLM, the current socio-economic system/paradigm)

stray dragon
#

god damn wtf

olive sable
#

its on ebay

#

but still good

#

$70 is not brand new price

#

you're spoiling

#
(qt.qpa.services) Failed to register with host portal QDBusError("org.freedesktop.portal.Error.Failed", "Could not register app ID: App info not found for 'org.freecad.FreeCAD'")
Migrating Start Workbench to Start command... done.
Coin warning in cc_glglue_instance(): Error when setting up the GL context. This can happen if there is no current context, or if the context has been set up incorrectly.
libEGL warning: pci id for fd 102: 10de:2204, driver (null)

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Coin warning in SoGLPolygonOffsetElement::updategl(): OpenGL driver doesn't support z-buffer offsetting

hmm

#

why not?

#

jsut support it

#

the app keeps freezing while loading the .step file enub

#

seems to not be clearing its framebuffer

#

creates windows xp like glitching

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texas instruments made this file pretty heavy to run huh

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freecad seems to be single threaded in how it does this so ill have to wait a while

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ah i see why now

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this fucking thing has 350000 triangles

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some poor soul at TI had to make this thing

olive sable
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No drivers are required because these drivers are natively handled by all operating systems even nixos? neuroCatUuh we shall see

amber fractal
olive sable
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ReallyInnocent what if i dont reduce?

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blender handles 350K decently

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it was the software i used to convert .step into something usable that took 10 minutes

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im reading these docs,a nd while its all very interesting

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why does red get less bright????

amber fractal
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red might be switching to a diffrent band?

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like microwave

olive sable
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i dont think so

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it shoudlnt be less bright if its jsut light in a different band

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but its actually jsut doing less light

amber fractal
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hmm activly cooled system

olive sable
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heat reduces the LED's ability to convert electrical energy into light efficiently
NeurOhISee

amber fractal
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Sounds like we need to liquid cool neuroHypers

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I mean this looks like heatsink and fan to me

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sooo ReallyInnocent

olive sable
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hmmm

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put waterblock directly ont he outside of it

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but ye nah i dont feel like doing all that extra work

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this one is only 150 lumen anyways, there is an industrial version that does 1000 or so

amber fractal
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That probably tells me that most of the limit is due to heat management

olive sable
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neuroConfused jsut bigger fan?

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nah, different LEDs too

amber fractal
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close bwaa

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those LEDs are probably made for higher current as well

olive sable
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getting better leds here doesnt seem too expensive on first glance

true hemlock
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not that it explain shit

amber fractal
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I was also saying that earlier

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wrong band tho

true hemlock
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because the diode should be emitting the same exact wavelength

olive sable
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i thought leds didnt change band too much tho

true hemlock
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but somehow infrared appeared

amber fractal
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reminds me of green lazers when cooled switch to infrared

maiden geyser
olive sable
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thats a screw it seems

true hemlock
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actually

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might have an explanation

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red led uses lower band gap diode

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tend to overheat faster so that's probably why

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also quantum efficiency shit that's not linear with current

olive sable
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i cant wait to use this software EvilDead

amber fractal
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did someone say reverse engineer?

olive sable
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nah

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im not gonna do all that

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😭

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im gonna save the settings, and then keep using those settings forever

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ok so

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we have a maximum of 4225hz

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but we need to stick withing the bandwidth limit

amber fractal
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we don't actually have to use ascii coloring

olive sable
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our pixel clock for hdmi is stuck at a max of 150mhz, meaning we cannot do the full 1140x910 at 4225hz

olive sable
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each 1 bit pattern you display can only be 1 colour

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1 bit pattern is what im counting as our hz here

amber fractal
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I just meant we can limit the color space and index into it neuroHypers

olive sable
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im not sure how much control we have ovewr brightness