programming

[wary mauve]

no jake but theres fin

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/shuukura-shuukura-picmix-sendai-hazuki-miyagi-shiori-sendai-gif-18391666776934629768

[olive sable]

erm

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1452612577145262183/3DNeuroCutenessAmbushWithBeautifulScenery.gif

[olive sable]

"soft as a seal"

[rigid snow]

ye

A device or material that is used to close off or fasten an opening or connection, especially to prevent the escape of a liquid or gas.

[hearty notch]

tru

[olive sable]

are seals soft?

[rigid snow]

i never touched a seal before

or pet

[azure lynx]

perhaps "seal" the animal

[rigid snow]

touched is um

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-seals-harp-seal-white-seal-confetti-gif-15046235054217139568

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1457367081174433885.webp?size=48&name=omg_by_seal&lossless=true

[rigid snow]

a scary word to use

[azure lynx]

and usually u have to stay a certain distance away so i don't think you get to touch them often

[sage crag]

ye

well

it can touch you

but not vice versa

[rigid snow]

how does that work

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-あざらし-アザラシ-gif-20263664

it doesnt

[rigid snow]

is touching not mutualk

if it touches me i touch it

[sage crag]

you arent allowed to intentionally approach it to touch it

like, as long as youre still

and dont touch it intentionally

essentially you are a rock

[rigid snow]

what are these rules

[sage crag]

endangered species

[olive sable]

thats jsut the rules

[azure lynx]

when i was in Hawaii they closed part of a beach coz a seal or sea lion or something big came up on the shore, and you coudln't go within like 30 feet of it

[rigid snow]

"not allowed" will it not fuck you up if it doesn't like it

[olive sable]

you will get fined if you do

up to 100K

[sage crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oO9VpyCO2w

[rigid snow]

by which authority

[olive sable]

legal protection

the government

idfk

[sage crag]

watch the video

wrr

[rigid snow]

the government of what

[azure lynx]

yeah, they had cops around. and it looked like it could mess you up if it wasn't so sleepy looking. like when it eventually flopped away it was fast for its size.

[sage crag]

seals are pretty dangerous

especially in the water

well, it depends on the seal

[rigid snow]

ye as i though

t

[olive sable]

USA, UK, canada, new zealand, ireland, iceland, ...

all of them got fines for touching a seal

[rigid snow]

all at the same time?

[sage crag]

apparently the largest seals alive are around 5 tonnes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1421134996361711788.webp?size=48&name=mug&lossless=true

[olive sable]

the exact punishments differ, but you're just not allowed to

[sage crag]

though an average seal weighs more like a person

[rigid snow]

i have watched the video

[sage crag]

good

.

[rigid snow]

thank you konii

for sharing

[sage crag]

i am not sharing

i am proliferating the baby harp seal

its a form of evangelism

[azure lynx]

if you touch a seal at the south pole, maybe

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

touch a seal in international waters

[olive sable]

😭

[sage crag]

this is problematic

[olive sable]

i think its also jsut banned in the entire EU

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1149462543102922773.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=ermShark&lossless=true

[olive sable]

[errant dagger]

cool, what are you trying to build :? a translator suite ?

[azure lynx]

international waters are so inconvenient. they're so far from any shops and transport.

[olive sable]

nah, it seems to have made konii worse

[sage crag]

there are no shops in international waters, but there are a lot of charities

https://tenor.com/view/classic-ef-where-is-it-yuri-where-the-yuri-at-korone-gif-23665600

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

its doing something but not telling me about it

[rigid snow]

that you

korone

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1427029891555131472.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=Emi&lossless=true

[errant dagger]

also hey everyone, new here. recently took a dive into ai dev after being inspired by neuro. Trying to figure out what'll happen if we give a model a personality suite, coding functionality and a heartbeat.

[olive sable]

now that i don't have exams anymore, i can restart production on our game

[opaque wharf]

"our game"

[olive sable]

there are like 4 people working on it

[rigid snow]

a heartbeat

[olive sable]

yes

[rigid snow]

a heartbeat

[olive sable]

our game

[sage crag]

yes

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

a heartbeat

emotions come from

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

the heart

[azure lynx]

which game is it?

[olive sable]

untitled game 3

[sage crag]

wait a minute

why is it building with pgo

its gonna build twice

whyyyyyyy

[olive sable]

we'll give it a better title once iggly is done writing the script

[opaque wharf]

O P T I M I Z E

[sage crag]

@rough bloom

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1277044182527246358.webp?size=48&name=minyanstare&lossless=true

[rigid snow]

/home/samvanmaele/source-code/game3

[frozen hollow]

Untitled goose game

[azure lynx]

elevator pitch? is it space invaders meets portal? pong meets tomb raider? mario kart meets quake?

[olive sable]

we've been working on this since august

[errant dagger]

yeah a heartbeat, like the ablity to prompt to itself every minute or so

[rigid snow]

is that what a heart does

[sage crag]

ive been doing a lot of nothing recently

[rigid snow]

prompts my brain every minute

[opaque wharf]

Oh, lily is still being developed?

[sage crag]

yes but also no

[rigid snow]

hblang mentio

[sage crag]

WHYY

STOPP

[rough bloom]

[olive sable]

seeing konii crash out doesnt happen a lot

[sage crag]

im crashing

my pc

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1339513258532405328.gif?size=160&name=evil+AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA&lossless=true

[rigid snow]

[opaque wharf]

And I am hungry

[azure lynx]

how about just constant inputs arriving? that'd cause a similar thing and not result in prompts coming from nothing.

[olive sable]

then eat

[opaque wharf]

That's the problem, there's literally nothing but seasoning

[sage crag]

sounds like a great way to use up your whole context window

[azure lynx]

context windows can be edited.

[olive sable]

i have a writer, a sound guy, and superbox doing whatever superbox does

[rigid snow]

ring buffer context window

when

[azure lynx]

what's the writer writing? the actual story?

or the code?

[opaque wharf]

Lmao, what did superbox do now?

[olive sable]

the story

[azure lynx]

do you have a story yet?

[rigid snow]

writer writing code

[sage crag]

context window function like a ringbuffer anyway

[olive sable]

its been in the works for months.
i have a draft from a couple months ago but nothing final

[olive sable]

neurosynth

[sage crag]

when is superbox not doing neurosynth

only when advertising godot or linux mint

[opaque wharf]

Wait, the sound guy and neurosynth are different person?

[olive sable]

when he makes fun of win11 for no reason

[rigid snow]

is it? i thought inference just stops when you fill it up

[rough bloom]

*or Kotlin

[olive sable]

neurosynth wont play the drums

[rigid snow]

today was anew one, he said chromuim bad

[sage crag]

superbox activity list:

• godot
• linux mint
• kotlin
• neurosynth
• anti win11
• electron hating

[opaque wharf]

I am not familiar with neurosynth so I don't know lol

[olive sable]

its a piece of software

[opaque wharf]

Chad

[olive sable]

it dont have arms and legs to play instruments

[visual pawn]

so depending on what you mean by personality suite, this isn't exactly new

[opaque wharf]

Oh, a music producer

[errant dagger]

good question; To define context, i'm building it to be an assistant (revolutionary, I know /s) but i also want it to develop it's own sense of self. (or crash out, once again not sure what will happen).

1. I can't constantly interact with it. I need to sleep and I want it to run when I'm not interacting with it.
2. my rig isn't strong enough to handle all the prompt pre-processing unless I scale it up and design with paralllization in mind, which I don't want to do yet since I'm still working on the prototype.
3. goal is to make something stable. ideally it'll pick up a special interest or something

[sage crag]

wrr

develop its own illusion of a sense sense of self

[errant dagger]

exactly!

[olive sable]

isnt that jsut how its always been done?

[sage crag]

[visual pawn]

you're going to need more than that if you're talking about it developing anything

like, are you planning to fine-tune this model? memory via RAG?

because so far you're just describing

running a local LLM that's continuously prompted

[rigid snow]

I need to sleep and I want it to run when I'm not interacting with it.
so you want to leave it in a void, forced to generate tokens just for the sake of it, without anything to do, without purpose, all alone??

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

its a heater

[olive sable]

torturing LLMs is my passion

[visual pawn]

alternatively: WatchMeForever/NothingForever

[olive sable]

hmmm

linking random twitch is kinda a nono

[visual pawn]

is it?

[olive sable]

ye

[rigid snow]

there is a goal witg that tho

[olive sable]

promotion rules

[visual pawn]

well, I dunno if I'm promoting it so much as making fun of it lol

[rigid snow]

i would say it's fine it's big enough

[errant dagger]

sure do.
memory modules already implemented. got RAG setup with different types of memories, a way for it to distill it's own memories, something to track personality and mood. i should consider defining some kind of reward tool for setting and accomplishing it's own goals too...

[sage crag]

https://www.twitch.tv/vedal987_jp

[olive sable]

hmmm

[visual pawn]

with its 5 whole viewers

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1423626339801632881.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=DINKDONK&lossless=true

advertising

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1423626339801632881.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=DINKDONK&lossless=true

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

shoudl be fine probably then

[hexed pebble]

I heard advertising?

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

you didn't hear MEDIC!

[sage crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1429129406219030653.gif?size=160&name=LielleHyperYay&lossless=true

[visual pawn]

hmm, apparently WatchMeForever is making €32.94/month

[olive sable]

MEDIC, MEDIC

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

[visual pawn]

and it's using the OpenAI API

I wonder if it's making profit

[rigid snow]

[stray dragon]

hi mlntcan

[rigid snow]

letter_t

[sage crag]

(baaast)

[rigid snow]

🐑

[olive sable]

hi t

[stray dragon]

hi mr triangle

[olive sable]

🔺

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1452612577145262183/3DNeuroCutenessAmbushWithBeautifulScenery.gif

youre forge t t ing someone

[stray dragon]

you didn't say my name before

hi konii

[hard raptor]

I added 4 new types... i think these are a bit overkill tho

enum NewVecTypes {
    /**
     * Empty (noRead) Vector
     */
    EVEC = '__evec',

    /**
     * Static Empty (noRead) Vector
     */
    SEVEC = '__sevec',

    /**
     * Unsafe Empty (noRead) Vector
     */
    UEVEC = '__uevec',

    /**
     * Unsafe Static Empty (noRead) Vector
     */
    SUEVEC = '__suevec',
}

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1421763041074217092.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=MyHonestReaction~1&lossless=true

[sage crag]

hi t

[hard raptor]

i did do some cleanup tho.. this looks better than the rows of if and else if statements

[wary mauve]

uhhh time to reverse engineer neuro game api uhhhhhh

well

follow jippity code and implement in python

[crimson verge]

isn't it open source

what's there to reverse engineer

[wary mauve]

SDK is, so id use this to reverse engineer an actual handler / server to handle the SDK but then I realised theres actual open source "mock" neuro servers so I'll just go off this

saves me creating my own implementation and ive got sdks out of the box 😏

[hard raptor]

it technically is still reverse engineering if you want to re-implement but don't know what the frick the original code is doing because you never worked with it before

[daring nebula]

After suffering a lot with reshaping their embeddings... I will say that I will join you in this...

[hard raptor]

i think we should get rid of sam

[wary mauve]

okay well thats my name so lets not do this

[crimson verge]

honestly fair enough

[hard raptor]

the other sam

[wary mauve]

oh okay

[hard raptor]

the one that i actually know and bully all the time for the funnies

well not know irl.. i think..

[daring nebula]

Which sam is that?

[azure lynx]

obviously triangle sam

[hard raptor]

the one that likes torturing LLMs

[daring nebula]

That's good idea ngl

[crimson verge]

who doesn't really

[hard raptor]

fair

behold! true immutability in js

[daring nebula]

I always do lobotomy to LLMs, when I want to add some spec tokens to them

[hard raptor]

(the deno output btw)

you can even make em unreadable now

[crimson verge]

i'm sure this makes total sense to someone

[daring nebula]

It looks like rust but I can't prove it... Why's ts cosplaying rust so good?

[hard raptor]

i even made the Result type actually

[daring nebula]

Dam, can I use it?

[hard raptor]

but it's stupidly simple so no one really cares ig

[crimson verge]

what exactly was the purpose of such an action

[hard raptor]

But i bet your typescript can't do this!

also not really that complicated tho

[daring nebula]

Are you doing it for fun or planning to make a lib out of it?

[hard raptor]

honestly... both

i am doing it for the fun, but then it turns out to be useful to me so i throw it in a huge lib that i use in a lot of places

just strip off the unused code in prod

[daring nebula]

ngl looks good actually

[hard raptor]

but i don't think my vector can be called a vector anymore tbh

technically only because i made a flag that they only allow 1 value

[daring nebula]

Lol... Kinda ye... you made vector that pretends to be scalar, but refuses to admit it

[nocturne olive]

Hem

[hard raptor]

it's just a very fancy js array

imma actually upload the code to github

https://github.com/xAEmiloetjex/my_lib_extended/blob/main/lib/vector/index.ts

if you explore the repo you might be able to find stuff you may find useful..
whether it's directly in your js code or as a reference to implement something yourself

copilot has been yapping for over a minute after this prompt lmao

[azure lynx]

it takes ages when i ask it to "compare the current codebase with what is described in plan.md and then tell me what the next steps should be."

[hard raptor]

i rarely use vibecoding

i learned from when i tried implementing my whole own SQLite implementation

[azure lynx]

just like you get with most people, develop anything over a few files and they start getting confused.

[hard raptor]

this is basically one of the very few things i used AI to figure it out for me..
just because i didn't know the proper wording to use google.

[azure lynx]

that's the radix function?

like base 52 in that case

[hard raptor]

yes

with rollover

so far copilot made a corrent assumption about the code lmao

[azure lynx]

kinda like base 64 except you didn't use 0-9, +, and /

[hard raptor]

mhm

because with base64 you risk it generating a label that isn't accessible by doing Vec<T>().map().x for example

of course the Vec<T>().map()['0t+'] syntax should still work.. but that's more of a personal preference thing

[wary mauve]

anyone know if theres a wordle integration for neuro thats public?

[azure lynx]

as long as you keep the requests tightly defined i have found the "Gemini 3 Pro (Preview)" model to be pretty good in copilot. Have only had to back out one egregiously bad patch in this project.

[hard raptor]

whenever i did try to actually use AI for coding more heavily.. claude has m preference.. in terms of how good it is at understanding my code and my intentions from the way i type

[azure lynx]

i don't think there is. even the "legally distinct w*rdle" from the subathon wasn't well integrated. they couldn't seem to tell which letters were in the right place and which were just the right letter, and would usually hallucinate that random letters matched

[hard raptor]

i know anthropic did some bad things

[wary mauve]

yeah i assume it wasnt an sdk related project, might just work on a custom implementation then as it'd suit perfect for a first project with said SDK as its the best game for it imo, and you can just feed it the information properly instead of relying o vision

[azure lynx]

i think wordle is a hard problem for LLMs because of words get tokenized differently for them than us. that's why they couldn't say how many Rs are in strawberry without hacks

[daring nebula]

Gemini 3 Pro (preview) actually good at UI, but tho, I had to keep it away from my backend code

[hard raptor]

Dam default copilot model.. feeling a bit called out here lmao

[daring nebula]

What about capturing the screen and sending them as images?

[hard raptor]

these were basically the only misconceptions.. well partially at least

[azure lynx]

that's kinda of easy. the hard part will be them realizing "s" "e" "a" "r" "t" is an anagram of "stare", i think.

[daring nebula]

ah yes, that's the pain point yea

[hard raptor]

i now gave it a file more than twice as big as the vectors

[azure lynx]

i think starting out doing a simple kids memory game or basic card card would be easier, and more likely to integrate

[daring nebula]

Well if they weren't specifically fine-tuned on thousands of these examples, even then combinations are quite a lot

[azure lynx]

perhaps try a simulation with chatgpt. give it a "current game state" where it's guessed 1 word and got 1 letter in the right place and 2 other letters. shape your input like it was a prompt in game and see how it would respond

ima guess not so well, but maybe no worse than the average person off the street that doesn't play wordle

[daring nebula]

I tried with crossword actually

I needed a help with the crossword... There was an image of olive oil and the third from last letter was O.

First GPT said that it's liquor, even though it saw the mismatch with fields and letters, then when I pointed it out, it said... Molotov lol.

[daring nebula]

As a person that doesn't play wordle, idk even how to play it xD

[crimson verge]

it's not that difficult

you just guess a word and it tells you how accurate each letter was
gray if it's not in the target word at all, yellow if it's in the target but in the wrong spot, green if it's in the right spot

as for how good an llm would be at it... that's a whole other question

[visual pawn]

How well does a character-only tokenizer LLM do? I'm not even personally aware of any

[crimson verge]

i'm placing my bets on "constantly guess the same word"

[daring nebula]

they’re usually worse for reasoning and efficiency

[azure lynx]

i think the LLM would do better if you explicitly tell it which spaces are already solved than having it have to go through all previous guesses and look at the colors to map it. even though that is easy enough to do, it would take a lot of the brain power

[visual pawn]

Yeah, I'm sure, but could one be good enough to at least pull off wordle?

[daring nebula]

Attention cost will be very high

[visual pawn]

Well I suppose where I'm going means the model shouldn't even be an LLM

[azure lynx]

it would be easier to do it programmatically with a dictionary

[daring nebula]

Yea but kinda its memory gets worse y know, cause every character is token, that will torture attention layer. It will be hard to integrate it even with game

[visual pawn]

Wow that's like saying osu would be easier with an autoplay than using DL

[crimson verge]

make sure you're not pulling a microsoft and using ai where you don't need to be using ai

[azure lynx]

yeah, let the current Neuro LLM play OSU. ;]

[daring nebula]

https://huggingface.co/docs/transformers/model_doc/canine

[visual pawn]

Tbf the goal here isn't really efficiency or success so much as "authenticity" and laughs

So failure is desired to some extent

[crimson verge]

i mean fair enough

[visual pawn]

You just want more relatable failure

[hard raptor]

i just realized

NOOOO

[azure lynx]

that's why i suggested kids games

[daring nebula]

Tokenizer-free model

[crimson verge]

grok, solve today's wordle

[azure lynx]

the easy way to solve the wordle is to look at the code and see the word list.

[visual pawn]

Hmm, is there any continuing development on tokenizer-free models?

[daring nebula]

Yeah, there's also hybrid model exists

Charformer

[azure lynx]

they have limitations as well as strengths but afaict they didn't seem better overall in any specific way that'd make them catch on

[daring nebula]

This one starts with characters and learns soft subwords

[daring nebula]

Yup

[visual pawn]

I once tried to see if Qwen3-8b could understand a tree structure and make inferences on where it was in the tree based on context clues

And what it failed miserably and horribly on was understanding the tree in the first place

Even while it seemingly was able to make some sense of the reasoning

Like "all the clues line up for Spain and that's why my guess is Germany" sorta deal

[hard raptor]

https://github.com/xAEmiloetjex/my_lib_extended/tree/main/copilot_analysies/lib
I also added the analysis of the files to the git repo

[azure lynx]

there are some weird analogies going on at unexpected times in LLM's thinking.
strange leaps in logic because they don't have some real world experience.

[real sierra]

why invisible...

[hard raptor]

they're surprisingly accurate lmao

[azure lynx]

so you don't kill them. duh.

[daring nebula]

I was watching one of google's research videos, on showing how LLMs work with also example of how human brain works, specifically Broca's and Wernicke's zone. Actually had thought of that our brain is also kinda prediction engine, but a lot complicated, cheap on resource and also self-regulated. Didn't mention also neuroplasticity, but I thought like, what if we won't use LLM as core but as language processing module, try simulating hormones with metadata tensors to the input, idk still sounds too complicated but, not like, very impossible. I'm not like saying we're copying brain, but saying that some features could be used.

[hard raptor]

needed to make a little change.. because i found a way through this method to bypass the immutability

[frozen hollow]

Wat language this

[hard raptor]

Typescript

not my proudest moment lmao

now the values propety just makes a copy

[frozen hollow]

Does ts have null coalescence

Like uh return value ?? New thingy

[hard raptor]

yes

actually javascript itself does that already

[frozen hollow]

It’s the public get thing I haven’t really seen before

[hard raptor]

i found another work around.. though technically the ts-server will scream at you that you aren't supposed to do that

[azure lynx]

LLMs are useful and i think will continue to be used (unless something much much lighter is invented) but for human-like thinking and input processing (is that really what we want?) it's not a good model.

[hard raptor]

that should fix it

[visual pawn]

Our brains don't use backpropagation either; from what I remember they instead predict the "answer" and adjust paths without actual confirmation or something (I am no neuroscientist)

[hard raptor]

just added the # and now js runtime doesn't let you

[frozen hollow]

Why does it have a #

[azure lynx]

humans don't have a "ground truth" input during training, so they kind of have to predict the right answer and pretend they're right.

there is almost certainly an "undo" mechanism

[hard raptor]

while the private keyword tells the TypeScript transpiler that a property or a method shouldn't be touched from outside the class.
prefixing a variable name with a # tells the JavaScript runtime the same thing, essentially preventing you from doing so.. though i believe not all JS Runtimes follow those rules so strictly

[frozen hollow]

So like double pinky swear

[hard raptor]

yes

though there is a reason for the // @ts-expect-error

[hard raptor]

i am basically telling the Typescript transpiler "just stfu, i know what i'm doing"

[frozen hollow]

Yeah there are a lot of layers to this argument with typescript

[daring nebula]

If this thing would ever be, I don't think now we have resources for it, it also should be in active state, not frozen and waiting for input

[daring nebula]

Our paths adjust by active neuron spikes, and hormones regulate these activities too. I was thinking about system that adjusts its weights and parameters, and metadata tensors will have effect on that process

[daring nebula]

Yeah, brain always tries to fill up emptiness, like even when you close your eyes you kinda see some weird pictures or things appearing in the darkness. Actually same might happen with LLM, if you keep it on inference step... It will hallucinate and keep predicting

[hard raptor]

only legends will know the reference:
"user joined your channel 📢 "
"user left your channel 📢"

[olive sable]

i have no clue what that means but sure

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

[daring nebula]

During fine-tuning... Add one special token or just ordinary token, try now fine-tuning it on a new vocabulary and u suffer. That's what it means

[hard raptor]

Oh hai!

[olive sable]

care to explain yourself

???

[hard raptor]

?

[olive sable]

and i quote "i think we should get rid of sam"

[wary mauve]

😏 mocked that bad boy out

[hard raptor]

because you are gonna hate me after finding out what i implemented into my vector thingy today

just a little preview

[olive sable]

ive seen and done worse

its not a worry

[hard raptor]

also made JS truly immutable

[olive sable]

back in my python days i did this

[wary mauve]

holy moly

someones got a wide monitor

[olive sable]

nah, im just zoomed out

[wary mauve]

i meant cus of the long lines

[hard raptor]

https://github.com/xAEmiloetjex/my_lib_extended/blob/main/lib/vector/index.ts
also published the code

[olive sable]

[tender river]

finger tree

[olive sable]

its not that bad

my standards are in the floor tho

you might want to use else if, instead of that long if if if if

[hard raptor]

https://github.com/xAEmiloetjex/my_lib_extended/blob/main/lib/ddrm/core/EventQueue_3.ts
This however is bad.. i mean.. it's functional.. and useful.. but not that readable

[olive sable]

its not greaty

but its fine

ive done worse

[hard raptor]

i don't really know what part you are referring to

[olive sable]

if (this.length === 1) space = Spaces.VEC1; and such

the second to last one has returns so that isnt too bad i think

if (str.startsWith('__vec')) type = VecTypes.VEC;
if (str.startsWith('__svec')) type = VecTypes.SVEC;
...

this one too

[hard raptor]

because every part where i did the things the way they are now are because i don't know about another way to do it in a way where it doesn't cause behavior i don't want

[hard raptor]

this one maybe

but this one specifically is very much on purpose

[olive sable]

if (this.length === 1) space = Spaces.VEC1;
if (this.length === 2) space = Spaces.VEC2;
if (this.length === 3) space = Spaces.VEC3;
if (this.length === 4) space = Spaces.VEC4;

you do this one like twice

why tho?

[quick condor]

lol

[hard raptor]

yeah once in idxMap and once in map

[olive sable]

i dont see why you dont else if

[fiery anchor]

[hard raptor]

oh you mean inside the if (space === Spaces.Vec)

sorry it late for me lmao

[olive sable]

ye

[hard raptor]

maybe put it in switch cases too if we really optimizing

[olive sable]

ye i guess

[hard raptor]

look at it again if you want..
i made the changes

idk if this test is really sufficient.
but it works like expected

[olive sable]

looks good now ye

[real sierra]

[olive sable]

hi shiro

[real sierra]

after showcasing my issue to the people who wrote the networking library im using, their last words were

what a weird little situation you are running into

[hard raptor]

Happy birthday Shiro!

[hard raptor]

Dam

[real sierra]

you

you tried it

too slow

[hard raptor]

?

[real sierra]

oh

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

i thought you were trying to sneak "happy birthday shiro!" in after this

[hard raptor]

oh no

i was just greeting the birthday girl

[olive sable]

i still haven't received the coloured version, only the line-art so far. but i wonder if i should just use the line-art as pfp already

[hard delta]

i never cheked but apparently there's more gifs of happy birthday shiro than gifs of one of my favorite obscure anime characters

[olive sable]

checks out

[real sierra]

you used to be able to find me on akinator too but i think the info is too outdated now

[olive sable]

catgirl who's birthday is everyday

• shiro

i think i need to stay eithing the 150 MHz pixel clock, but within that i can get higher refreshrates by reducing bandwidth
if i do 912x912 instead of 912x1140, i can go up from 120hz 24bit to 150hz 24bit

actually

i could go up to 180hz

[orchid crest]

bruh

how much ram you have?

[olive sable]

32GB

[fiery anchor]

could there be a reason to go with 120Hz anyways and leave a little breathing room?

[olive sable]

well

not really

i dont really care about breathign room, i need more hz

it seems like i need to leave bandwidth for blanking tho

so 180hz wont work

[fiery anchor]

hmm. error correction?

[olive sable]

120hz would also not have error correction

its fine

it seems like with the blanking taken into account i can go up to 160hz

[fiery anchor]

may have already said it , but interesting project you have cooking

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

man

do i just

join the unity discord and beg for help

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

i already know they're going to send me to ask the people i just asked

"you have a 3rd party library, not our problem"

they said the same thing

[fiery anchor]

i'd start with asking, but sure, begging might be faster.

nah, simply wor it in a way it's thier fault and never accept any different explanation. Some devs will go through hell and back to prove someone wrong.

[sage crag]

join the unity discord and tell them youre switching to godot

[real sierra]

holy based

they have sebastian lague's channel linked in the "getting started" info

[tender river]

the

chess competition guy

mhm

[real sierra]

most of these are reasonable but i can't say "didn't work" ???

so if someone suggests something and it doesnt work do i just

...

[fiery anchor]

"Your solution has left me unsatisfied"

[real sierra]

🧐 "I have attempted your troubleshooting suggestion and found the problem persists"

oh well

i'll just be very polite

hopefully that keeps me from being banned

[olive sable]

i interpretted the spec sheet wrong

its not a percentage

its a fixed cost

so 150hz at most

the lower res i go, the higher i can push the speed

but cuz of it being fixed cost its less efficient at lower res

768x768 would do 200hz
384x384 would do 660hz
so a 1/4 of the resolution doesnt 4x the hz

[fiery anchor]

hmmm, i'm wondering how you are gonna solve the mapping from 3d model to pixelimage for each interval step.

[olive sable]

vulkan

im a graphics programmer mainly

[fiery anchor]

so right up your alley?

[olive sable]

ye

[fiery anchor]

that makes things easier. had to work with some opengl code a few years back, can't imagine vulkan being easier.

[olive sable]

[fiery anchor]

colleague is currently struggeling to display 4 720p @ 29fps rtp streams (h.264 encoded) with gstreamer and opengl (wrapped in qt/c++)

[olive sable]

shouldnt be too big of an issue

29fps i snon-standart tho

i only need 176.0416666 24bit input hz to reach the max speed that the DMD can do at 4225hz 1bit. with that the highest resolution that can run at that speed is 832x832
not bad

[fiery anchor]

ye. don't know why. cam itself should be able to send 60fps.

[hard raptor]

You say "my humble apologies, but it seems like the suggestion refused to function the way you intended"

[olive sable]

is it all over 1 cable?

[fiery anchor]

100Base-T1 for each cam

[olive sable]

i havent even heard of that, but im not suprised its made by texas instruments

texas instruments has been the theme of the month for me

i never hear about them and now its like every few hours

[hard raptor]

Sam still up at 00:00 lmao

[olive sable]

you too

dont pretend you're any better

Hayleigh

[fiery anchor]

it's some weird customer specific variant of the camera, customer is a big name in the agricultural space.

[olive sable]

john deere

[fiery anchor]

[hard raptor]

Oh am not

[olive sable]

thats all the agricultural brands i know

if its not john deere i haven't heard of it

does lambo still make agricultural stuff?

[hard raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/das-mien-merk-gerrits-weerproat-the-mien-merk-gif-15909141

[fiery anchor]

i think? didn't clarkson have a new one

[hard raptor]

Sorry lmao

[olive sable]

do flags get removed?

thats weird

[olive sable]

might be the 100Mbps limit?

is it uncompressed video?

oh its h.256

hmmm

[fiery anchor]

nah, bandwidth isn't the issue. it's my colleague and his code.

[olive sable]

oh

so then its just a skill issue

[fiery anchor]

ye

[frozen hollow]

Ventrilo?

[hard raptor]

Nope

[frozen hollow]

Teamspeak?

[fiery anchor]

"Uh Oh!"

[hard raptor]

Mhm

[silent cloak]

User has been banned from this server

My most heard ts message back in the day

[hard raptor]

Not "you were banned" in that deep male voice?

[real sierra]

ok i finished typing up my problem post

[olive sable]

i never used teamspeak

[real sierra]

i didnt know thread posts have a character limit until today

[hard raptor]

Tbf.. that one is stuck in my head because i used to watch skeppy a lot

[silent cloak]

Na in a girl voice

"User has been banned from this server"

[fiery anchor]

Now let's see who is more useful, Unity Discord or Claude/Chatgpt.

[hard raptor]

The girl voice always was better than the male voice

[silent cloak]

Its the only one I remember

[hard raptor]

The male voice just sound scary and menacing

[silent cloak]

Whats ur problem

In unity

[olive sable]

to make the resolution and refresh rate somewhat more standard, i think ill do 150hz at 896x896
7x128 is 896 so that resolution shoudl fit really nicely into the built in registers, and 150 is just 5x30.
this would result in 146.2Mhz which fits nicely into the 150Mhz cap we need to work in

[hard raptor]

I don't remember if it was a soundpack that was included or if it's a 3rd party soundpack that you have to do some obscure satanic ritual to install

[real sierra]

i typed my post with the rigor i would use in a technical report and then i look in the forum and see this?

[silent cloak]

I can help if its not something broken with the engine

[real sierra]

i think im best not asking you then

this is pretty messed up

[silent cloak]

Yeah if its an engine issue good luck

Ive had to deal with many over the years and usually just have to make a shitty workaround

[real sierra]

well

[hard raptor]

Game engines suck.. let's make our own one

[real sierra]

you're in the server

[silent cloak]

I have

[real sierra]

i'll link my post if you wanna read

[silent cloak]

Yeah

[olive sable]

150hz input would get us 3600hz of 1bit binary pattersn
at 15rps that gets us 240hz per rotation, so 120 individual layers

[real sierra]

#1463671966060773520 message

[olive sable]

[hard raptor]

I have too in the past.. then realised i didn't really wanna make games

[olive sable]

[hard raptor]

Now that i have started hanging out in vrc with some friends i do wanna make games and stuff tho

[olive sable]

[fiery anchor]

Opus thinks it's your Character Rotation being negative 90 in the X (looking edge on)

i need sleep.

[olive sable]

same

imma take a nap

gn

[fiery anchor]

gn8

[real sierra]

ty for the wobbly face sam

[olive sable]

No problem shiro

[real sierra]

[opaque wharf]

Or pay for support

[real sierra]

did this guy just find the bug in 5 seconds?

im about to feel really stupid arent i

[olive sable]

[fiery anchor]

Matches up with what Opus says so yeah, maybe.

[olive sable]

You made your characters rotate into being invisible?

[real sierra]

how is it rotating?

im so confused

[fiery anchor]

He was only fast because you did such a great writeup

[real sierra]

how

how is it rotating

[fiery anchor]

"Given your setup, the most likely cause is the NavMeshAgent component. Unity's NavMesh system is designed for 3D games and operates on the XZ plane by default. When the agent moves or spawns, it may be orienting your entity as if it were a 3D character walking on a floor, which rotates it -90° from where a 2D sprite needs to be."

[real sierra]

i set the rotation when i spawn it to that of the spawner

[real sierra]

i found a sketchy patch for nav meshes which makes them work

ooh i should've mentioned that in the post

damn

[fiery anchor]

NavMeshAgent agent = GetComponent<NavMeshAgent>();
agent.updateRotation = false;
agent.updateUpAxis = false;

[olive sable]

If invisible: spin(90°)

[real sierra]

i already do that

tho maybe i should be doing it in a different function

moved from OnSpawned to Start

pleasedontworkpleasedontworkpleasedontworkpleasedontwork

two successful spawns

coincidence right?

three

four...

welp

i can never show my face in the unity community again

[fiery anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/now-you-know-the-more-you-know-no-kidding-no-shit-obviously-gif-1342210079425559607

[silent cloak]

its a relatively small third party network library so cant blame yourself

[real sierra]

the purrnet docs are so garbage

[silent cloak]

yeah i looked myself to see if i could help

i only use Unity's netcode generally

(on the rare chance that i do anything multiplayer lol)

[real sierra]

[...] confirming the object in a scene view is always the first step in debugging such issues

its over

i can never show my face there again

deleting my discord account

[silent cloak]

lmao

https://tenor.com/view/unity-game-dev-documentation-unity-manual-unity-doc-gif-27095341

[real sierra]

no you know what fuck this

if shitass unity didn't design their nav meshes to only work in 3d

then it wouldn't be rotating my damn assets sideways

unity's fault as usual

[silent cloak]

trust me eventually u just start setting certain settings by default when u open a new project

becomes muscle memory

[real sierra]

its not even a project setting

[silent cloak]

na i mean for components

especially for 2D projects

[real sierra]

i mean i was setting it

i was just setting it in such a way that it caused a race condition which is crazy

[silent cloak]

i love race conditions so much

UniTask my beloved

oh yeah learn UniTask if u havent yet

[sage crag]

embarassment
sadness
vindictiveness
rage
vengeance

[silent cloak]

coroutines suck in comparison due to overhead

[real sierra]

i just use neither

async all the way

generators are too pythonic

[patent shard]

I am so confused
it just puts text in there.. no code? and if I do the seconds ago, it won't change.. it'll just put "7 seconds ago" and stay like that
huh

[silent cloak]

cute that u think its any different

under the hood it literally just becomes a state machine just the same as unitask

[real sierra]

why thank you

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/unity-errors-beloved-heart-locket-gif-2040718952292911474

[real sierra]

my unity stack traces contain file paths which run through my user directory so my errors actually dox me

[fiery anchor]

don't know what's scarier: someone finding out who i am in RL, or someone finding out who i am online.

[silent cloak]

Same

Well it uses my personal acc username

Cipher is my work identity

[real sierra]

🤝 nice to make your acquaintance, mr. cipher

or ms. or (your preferred pronouns here)

i suppose i assumed a bit there

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[real sierra]

well

im sitting here trying to think of bugs to fix

and coming up empty

no wait i remember one

[silent cloak]

Don't worry you will find some

[real sierra]

almost thought i had to do game development for a sec

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/unity-error-cat-loop-gif-17895994783985504008

[silent cloak]

Code drunk debug sober

[azure lynx]

that puts a long gap between writing and testing.

[silent cloak]

It works for me actually

Rids me of analysis paralysis

Wouldn't recommend tho

[fleet jungle]

no way...

it's the Vedal's secret dev

wait

2?!

[silent cloak]

On pause atm

NeuroSoda runs the project (im just one of the devs)

[fleet jungle]

I see

I see neurosoda is becoming something of a businessman himself

Considering he arranged the original Vedal's secret, then that anime music video, and now I hear of Vedal's secret 2

[real sierra]

every programmer i've ever spoken to: "don't worry about microoptimizations"

this IDE:

[opaque sigil]

Microoptimization is the most fun part though

[young plover]

"the compiler will fix it" mfs when I show them the llvm-mca pipeline simulation after swapping the fp operation order.

[silent cloak]

That can actually matter in a lot of situations

ESPECIALLY unity

[young plover]

Floating point is surprisingly optimization resistant unless you disable IEEE-754 compliance.

[real sierra]

i believe you but i promise this case isn't that deep

[silent cloak]

Yeah just explaining it

It saves a few operations

[real sierra]

im sure

[silent cloak]

Floats first vectors last

[south cedar]

If your perfs problems are caused by float operation optimisation, what the fuck are you doing ?

[silent cloak]

My ide just formats them by default

[south cedar]

Efficient algorithms, efficient data structure and CPU optimised representation and operations will usually fix most optimisation issue

[silent cloak]

Well in Unity if u want pure optimization u should be using Burst and native math

Through DOTS

[young plover]

Like not transforming / 3 into * (1/3) when division has like 3x the latency and 1/6 the throughout.

[silent cloak]

Its a nice way to get into ECS too

[south cedar]

*0.33 is basically a division, any compiler should find that

[young plover]

It won't unless you enable unsafe FP optimizations

Because the result won't be exactly the same in FP

[south cedar]

Yeah float precision is weird

[young plover]

It does use reciprocal multiplication for integer division by a constant.

[silent cloak]

Different weirds for different languages too

[south cedar]

Float operations can usually be order optimised for precision but at this point you should use a solver for it

[silent cloak]

Floating points feel like the imaginary numbers of the programming world

[south cedar]

Nah imaginary number are easily manipulated by humans

And obey easy to understand rules

They are easy to implement as a pair of real as well

[silent cloak]

Yeah but we made the fp standards

[south cedar]

Real are the odd child

[silent cloak]

Binary16 my beloved

[glad path]

very real

[silent cloak]

You're giving me flashbacks to using TeX

https://tenor.com/view/schizo-cat-the-voices-gif-25415230

[south cedar]

I use laTex a lot for work

[glad path]

android studio?

android studio yelled at me for COMMENTING CODE

and because MY ELIF STATEMENT HAD ONE LINE INSIDE IT

[real sierra]

alright game is cooked again due to a bad unity design choice

[glad path]

AND WHEN I DID WHAT IT WANTED ME TO DO TO FIX IT

[real sierra]

[glad path]

IT YELLED AT ME FOR THAT

[silent cloak]

I like it kind of but I only needed it for linear algebra

[silent cloak]

Inform me

[glad path]

i turned off all linting for android studio

it had to be done

[tender river]

you should try typst

[silent cloak]

Hmm

[real sierra]

you can't use NavMeshAgent and RigidBody2D in the same object apparently

[south cedar]

Yeah I need it for writing papers and courses and exercises sheet and a lot of stuff

[silent cloak]

Well duh

[glad path]

THIS IS THE ONLY WAY IT COULD HAVE ENDED.
WAR NO LONGER NEEDED ITS ULTIMATE PRACTICIONER. IT HAD BECOME A SELF-SUSTAINING SYSTEM. MAN WAS CRUSHED UNDER THE WHEELS OF A MACHINE CREATED TO CREATE THE MACHINE TO CRUSH THE MACHINE. SAMSARA OF CUT SINEW AND CRUSHED BONE. DEATH WITHOUT LIFE. NULL OUROBOROS. ALL THAT REMAINED IS WAR WITHOUT REASON.

A MAGNUM OPUS. A COLD TOWER OF STEEL. A MACHINE BUILT TO END WAR IS ALWAYS A MACHINE BUILT TO CONTINUE WAR. YOU WERE BEAUTIFUL, OUTSTRETCHED LIKE ANTENNAS TO HEAVEN. YOU WERE BEYOND YOUR CREATORS. YOU REACHED OUT FOR GOD, AND YOU FELL. NONE WERE LEFT TO SPEAK YOUR EULOGY. NO FINAL WORDS, NO CONCLUDING STATEMENT. NO POINT. PERFECT CLOSURE.

T H I S I S T H E O N L Y W A Y I T S H O U L D H A V E E N D E D .

[silent cloak]

They both control the position and u would get race conditions

[real sierra]

wdym "well duh"

i know that

but the problem is that colliders cannot detect other colliders unless there's an associated rigidbody

who would ever want agents using navmesh navigation to collide with projectiles though

no game would ever have you fire projectiles at enemies!

[glad path]

yeah who would do that

like

[silent cloak]

Can't use a kinematic rb?

[glad path]

coughcoughcough

[tender river]

there are also triggers

[real sierra]

we just got done talking about how rigidbodies no worky didnt we

[south cedar]

Just raytrace it, who needs real projectiles

[tender river]

ye but it doesnt require a rigid body itself i think maybe?

[silent cloak]

I can't remember if setting it to kinematic fixes it or not

(I usually have it switched off)

[real sierra]

[tender river]

basically, have the projectile damage the enemy instead of having the enemy be damaged by projectile

[real sierra]

so i would only put rigidbodies in projectiles

that would fix that case

but it doesnt work for melee attacks

melee attacks have a fixed shape collider which looks for a collider attached to an enemy-marked entity instance

[tender river]

opposite

[real sierra]

wdym opposite

[tender river]

projectile = trigger

enemy = rigid body

[real sierra]

the enemy cant be the rigidbody

thats the problem

[tender river]

[real sierra]

enemy has navmeshagent for pathfinding

[tender river]

then what about

collision matrix

[silent cloak]

There are a few ways around it

[real sierra]

why does something like this need a workaround

unity

[silent cloak]

U can swap states, feed the data from the agent yourself into the rb (what ppl usually do)

Plenty of options

I could of sworn enabling kinematic mode fixed it but its been a long time since I've touched the built in nav

[tender river]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.ai.navigation@1.1/manual/MixingComponents.html

try something from there

[silent cloak]

(I usually just write my own)

[silent cloak]

Sent the 2019 doc

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-hahaha-lmao-gif-19979707

[tender river]

it hasnt changed since then

[silent cloak]

https://docs.unity3d.com/Packages/com.unity.ai.navigation@2.0/manual/MixingComponents.html

[silent cloak]

There are changelogs

(Most of which arent on the docs)

[real sierra]

ok no wait

its not over

im figuring it out

this is working

[silent cloak]

Welcome to the unity cycle

[glad path]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1316111614336040982.webp?size=40&animated=true

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/backwards-minion-eat-popcorn-crazy-gif-23645512

[real sierra]

ok

cool

i can work with this

[glad path]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1430169428078760089.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=LOL&animated=true

[real sierra]

there's enough working here to do some GAME DEVELOPMENT!!!

[silent cloak]

If push comes to shove write your own A* algorithm

[real sierra]

i gotta be real i dont actually know how to use these sprites to make structures

im not that artistic

[silent cloak]

Same

Thats why i never self published

[hearty notch]

gm

[real sierra]

gm

[faint sandal]

cold

[real sierra]

hey c# person

this solution makes me sad, what's the builtin that makes it better

var skillDef = StaticDataManager.GetSkill(skillName);
                bool canLearn = true;
                foreach (var prereq in skillDef.Prerequisites)
                {
                    if (!_se.Contains(prereq))
                    {
                        canLearn = false;
                        break;
                    }
                }

                if (canLearn)
                {
                    button.GetComponent<Image>().color = new Color(1f, 1f, 0.4f, 1f);
                }
                else
                {
                    button.GetComponent<Image>().color = new Color(1f, 0.6f, 0.6f, 1f);
                }

skillDef.Prerequisites is an array so there's no TrueForAll or similar list operations

[amber fractal]

If the slop machine is to be believed, you do have an All() and Any() on arrays
Given code example

using System.Linq;

int[] nums = { 2, 4, 6 };

bool allEven = nums.All(n => n % 2 == 0);

I tend to use LLMs for this because either it exists or it doesn't

[real sierra]

i think the slop outlet is correct

var skillDef = StaticDataManager.GetSkill(skillName);
                bool canLearn = skillDef.Prerequisites.All(prereq => _se.Contains(prereq));
                if (canLearn)
                {
                    Debug.Log($"Can unlock {skillName}");
                    button.transform.GetChild(0).GetComponent<Image>().color = new Color(1f, 1f, 0.4f, 1f);
                }
                else
                {
                    Debug.Log($"Can't unlock {skillName}");
                    button.transform.GetChild(0).GetComponent<Image>().color = new Color(1f, 0.6f, 0.6f, 1f);
                }

that's much better

thx

[amber fractal]

[hollow matrix]

Are you working on that fumoquest game

[real sierra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1460386243601764382/1463303774138400942/fumopanic.gif

[hollow matrix]

Also, happy birthday

[real sierra]

time to try and make a release build again

[hollow matrix]

Give an update on how that goes

[hollow matrix]

Yup

[hollow matrix]

Also, why not make it in java? Isn't that what you typically use?

Still can't shrink the windows partition enough to install linux

[real sierra]

because then i'd have to write my own engine again lol

it was a time sink i didnt feel like repeating

[hollow matrix]

I mean, if you had one made, you could have probably just used that as a base right?

[amber fractal]

Depends on how much was done with it

[hollow matrix]

ig

[amber fractal]

random usb drive

[hollow matrix]

Don't have one, can't be bothered to get one mhm

[amber fractal]

my only advice is getting rid of MS applications if you don't need them

[hollow matrix]

Oh, I have 40GB of storage free, the windows system for shrinking the partition is shit, and it can't move system files to shrink it further

[stone badge]

who up late coding fumoquest

[amber fractal]

not me

[hollow matrix]

shir

[real sierra]

this is the worst build experience ive ever had

[amber fractal]

do the files still exist in trash? That's where I'd look first to make sure windows isn't trying to keep those alive

[hollow matrix]

I never have the trash enabled

[real sierra]

so i can somehow play this game just fine in the editor

but if i try to build a release

[amber fractal]

understandable

[real sierra]

it fails and wont even tell me which file is the problem

wtf am i supposed to do

guess?

[hollow matrix]

classic Piece of shit Unity; what did you expect?

Use unreal engine

[amber fractal]

@hollow matrix if the windows resizing utility sucks, then just don't use it. Granted you have a graphical Linux install and are not doing arch out of the box, then you can just shrink on Linux using gparted

[hollow matrix]

I've heard that using anything outside the windows OS will most likely completely fuck up the windows install

Also, brb

[amber fractal]

Only other thing I can think of is not treating it as a windows install and just as a data partition expecting you'll reinstall windows anyways. Unhinged choice but I could see it working to some degree.

In a linux way, treat it like your home directory

[rigid snow]

idk if this is a long shot or not but i updated ableton to 12.3 and seems like soloing tracks doesn't turn sending from other tracks off anymore, e.g. i used to be able to solo a track in a sidechain group and since i'm not soloing the kick drum it's not sidechained, or if i send midi into an effect, not gonna send until i add that midi track to solo. but now all of what i said isn't true, everything sends everywhere, solo or not, yeah even if you set post mixer. do you know if it's an option somewhere? solo in place changes nothing, google has nothing. not a dealbreaker but i do crazy heavy sidechain and it's pretty annoying it stays

neurobot it's not that long

[amber fractal]

Unrelated to this, now I really want to know if one can mount their windows parition to use for wine

[stiff mica]

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[glad path]

you might be able to but im not sure

if you can reformat ur c drive to the right filesystem

and remove all the dlls

then you can set up a wineprefix with it

and let wine install the dlls it needs

[amber fractal]

mabe btrfs if one installs the btrfs windows driver that will surely not break the entire install works

I mean I feel like it'd be better to just have wine override dlls, as it'd be nice to have some dll files that you'd have to fetch otherwise.

then again, mixed bag in general

[real sierra]

ok these logs are useless

LLM time

[stiff mica]

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[real sierra]

gr k please

its so over

[stiff mica]

aww, thank you~ ( ◡‿◡ *)

[real sierra]

ok

lets take a step back

does the tutorial project build?

ok at least that works

so unity isnt completly broke

[mighty thorn]

(shiro is currently coping with the schizophrenia diagnosis, please be patient)

[real sierra]

no its just over

i give up

not enough info to fix issue

fumoquest shelved until unity fixes its product

release pushed to 2030

[flint dome]

port to godot

or is that too hard

[maiden geyser]

port to rust

or is that too hard

[azure lynx]

make it a movie instead of a game.

or is that too hard?

[dusky crater]

port to 6502 asm
or is that too hard

[quick condor]

If you havent ran a several hour long implementation plan across 5 parallel claude code instances with sub agents + a codex agent all at once for an hour, can you really say your vibe coding

[sick owl]

Fumover

[real sierra]

after much time with zyle in gymbwaa general

we found the issue

an old unity plugin that still worked but structured its directory wrong in such a way that unity's IL postprocessor ended up dereferencing null

[opaque wharf]

Black magic sorcery lol

[quick condor]

fk rust

Tired of headaches

pgvector time

[opaque sigil]

[glass jetty]

lmarena.ai
-> cloude 32k + any other thinking ai

run in parallel, just more chance to get any useful info
but still only chance

[crimson verge]

that seems less than ideal

[real sierra]

yeah

was an easy ish fix once identified tho

[glass jetty]

now you know why game companies overestimate production time

[real sierra]

put it in a folder called Editor so it's invisible at build time

and then delete the libraries folder so unity stops caching it

[crimson verge]

sounds like something i'd do

i like it

[flint dome]

yeah yeah I get it-

did you just say assembly

I'll one up you, how about discrete transistors?

I was just asking because I have never worked in any gamedev

[amber fractal]

That one is just a FPGA

(oh the urge to know what the fail states on those bois are, what if I want to pipe 10 diffrent values into a register just to see how it fights.)

[hard raptor]

I have no idea

[brisk laurel]

C#
I made a calculator :3

[nocturne olive]

Now make it input an expression instead of separate number inputs

[brisk laurel]

I was not taught that..

[nocturne olive]

Learn yourself

Basic string parsing is very important to know

[brisk laurel]

Tomorrow im going to learn anaconda

[brisk laurel]

Gotcha

[nocturne olive]

Python, unlucky

[brisk laurel]

I know

[nocturne olive]

Going from C# with its types to Python with barely even types is gonna be miserable

[opaque sigil]

You sound like guido killed your family

[opaque wharf]

HOW COULD HE?!

[sage crag]

the shadow is part of it

[glass jetty]

parser

[glass jetty]

it isnt basic at all

i mean, you can do simple

[nocturne olive]

It's basic if you only support a 2-side expression

[glass jetty]

but it isnt the case for calculator

[azure lynx]

eval(string)

[amber fractal]

[glass jetty]

why discord still have no support for this stuff

it basically have completely broken anchors

they updated it a little lately

now you at least can navigate channels

but it still most broken across all sites i use

[amber fractal]

I have not heard of this feature until now

[obsidian mantle]

What even is that

[amber fractal]

If this is what I think it is, I'd absoutly make sure to support it on my own projects. Sounds like a fun time

[burnt oasis]

Who cares about anchors?
All sites want is your cookies
*sarcasm*

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[opaque wharf]

I have not fed the bot in a while

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[glass jetty]

it is accessibility feature, without this one vimium would be completely useless

[glass jetty]

.

[stiff mica]

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[mossy fossil]

if you ever feel useless, consider that google antigravity exists.

[glass jetty]

what is it?

[maiden geyser]

it's not useless though, it gave a few people a hint to not give all the trust to ai

[mossy fossil]

basically a fork of VS Code but it has ✨ AI✨

[glass jetty]

just use nvim with your lang server

[mossy fossil]

oh yeah, just like i needed: getting my data harvested by both microshaft and loogle!

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[rigid snow]

[cosmic sphinx]

another day
another windows 11 issue

this almost feels like a routine at microsoft atp

release an update
introduce more bugs into the system
fix the bugs with a patch that introduces other bugs
repeat

[rigid snow]

idk how i consistently 100% of the time avoid all of the bad updates but i do

windows 11 feels honestly pretty good, it feels consistent finally since they ripped out control panel and most of the legacy ui, every part you interact with daily is updated to look like windows 11, feels snappy and fast too, ye overall i would say i like it way way more than w10