programming

[tender river]

that way multiple components can listen for collisions of their containing objects

[real sierra]

just have them do that through their lauded components interface

they cant stuff this paradigm down my throat and then shove all their functions at the effective top level

unacceptable

[azure lynx]

you show them! stop using it and make a better one! 😛

[real sierra]

[tender river]

it makes sense though

[real sierra]

sam remake it but better

[tender river]

the only other way would be some delegate component that you dynamically add callbacks to

[real sierra]

physics on gpu

[real sierra]

if a collision happens between two objects you should already know which colliders are involved

otherwise how did you detect a collision if you didnt know about one of them

[amber fractal]

we have not done that yet, I'm 90% sure physics is just bounding boxes atm

[real sierra]

no excuse to not be able to dispatch an event to a function declared by those collider components

[tender river]

?

they do that, they just dispatch it to every monobehaviour in the object

[real sierra]

no that doesnt make sense

[silent cloak]

just wait until u mess around with ECS

[azure lynx]

unity is the worst except for almost every alternative.

[silent cloak]

good one

[real sierra]

this callback should be declared by Collider2D not MonoBehaviour

you cant just add every event to MonoBehaviour so everyone else can listen in

[tender river]

i disagree

because Collider2D cant have user code

[real sierra]

it doesnt need to, add it as an event

then you can write an event handler in user code

and add as a listener

then collision system just invokes that

clean

[tender river]

if its an event, you now have to resubscribe when dynamically switching colliders

[silent cloak]

events are kind of all over the place in Unity due to like the 30 different ways to do them

UnityEvents, Actions, C# events, etc

i always stick with the base C# ones for performance reasons

[tender river]

additionally, every monobehaviour that listens for collisions will have to have event listener additions/removals in Awake/Destroy calls

[silent cloak]

no

they dont get counted if u dont add them

so unless ur making them for every mono or just adding empty ones ur fine

[tender river]

im not talking about how unity works

[real sierra]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Unity2D/comments/1fm5h5p/is_oncollisionenter2d_part_of_monobehaviour_class/

[silent cloak]

yeah idk why they do it like that

i think its legacy reasons

[azure lynx]

i bet 2d collisions were so old they can't change it without breaking everything

[silent cloak]

part of why sometimes ill write my own collision management

taking advantage of DOTS and Burst

which most devs are too scared to touch because its ECS

[real sierra]

oh well

it's useful it's done like this

[silent cloak]

spatial hashmap collision my beloved (do that if u have a TON of entities who need collision)

[real sierra]

but i still hate it

randomly doing this for collision callbacks but nothing else seems arbitrary

[silent cloak]

yeah thats why i think its legacy

cant confirm tho

[silent cloak]

tbh if it works using BroadcastMessage ur better off just saving the reference yourself for performance

its probably the least performant way to do any calling in Unity

[real sierra]

o7

rip

[tender river]

[silent cloak]

hacked user

get em

https://tenor.com/view/mods-gif-919334760262788322

[tender river]

this time the crypto casino is opened by a person i dont know

[real sierra]

i think they only got 3 channels that time

im too quick

[silent cloak]

considering they always send the same photos we should just hash them

bam automatic detector

done something similar a very long time ago

[rigid snow]

for the better

you'll hate them

[opaque sigil]

who was it this time

[rigid snow]

adin ross

[sage crag]

yuri novel

spend day reading

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

WHY IT ALWAYS GO BAD IN VOLUME 3

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

banbnaba dog

[rigid snow]

i'm actually about to cry man this was one task

[sage crag]

seriously whats up with this

[rigid snow]

oops no labels

[sage crag]

tone shift

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

war, violence, death, magic, demons

now its

sentient ai catgirl

[rigid snow]

$7

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

how did it get here

the second volume ended on fantasy

and the third volume started on scifi

[real sierra]

tekkit novel

[rigid snow]

FUCK YOU

HALF A DOLLAR TO SUMMARIZE

[real sierra]

[rigid snow]

i'm so done

[real sierra]

-50 CENTS

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

[real sierra]

i cant focus

[unkempt citrus]

Have you considered drugs, like pain and caffeine

[sage crag]

i cant either

my eyes i mean

ive been reading for too long

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1452612577145262183/3DNeuroCutenessAmbushWithBeautifulScenery.gif

[rigid snow]

this probably looks funny to you

since can't focus

[sage crag]

your face

looks funny

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421861060507602944/1425936142754123927/neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf.webp

[rigid snow]

thank you?

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/my-jolly-reaction-jolly-my-honest-reaction-gif-5490890317762380451

tremble, cower

fear me

[opaque sigil]

[sage crag]

at least when a series starts going bad

you can drop it and stay happy

[opaque sigil]

can, not will

[sage crag]

ive done this two 2 yuri novels in as many days

ill probably do it again tomorrow

[azure lynx]

the numbers add up.

[sage crag]

rotate

[silent cloak]

I want to finish reading a book ive paused

My motivation has been terrible

[sage crag]

restart from the beginning

[silent cloak]

I might honestly

[rigid snow]

yes but i can't afford him...

[sage crag]

that how you finish code project too

[silent cloak]

Lmao sad truth

I prototype a ton

[opaque sigil]

that's what the subsidized claude plans are for

[sage crag]

book prototype

read

iterate???

read again

iterate?????

read again

[azure lynx]

the book better be good. but if you're iterating, omg. it probably isn't.

[sage crag]

book understanding prototype

[silent cloak]

My reward centers have been fried for months

[sage crag]

every new chapter, restart the book from the first chapter

[azure lynx]

change each period for a question mark. this was a good idea?

[rigid snow]

i definitely can't afford that either lmao

[sage crag]

replace every word with a random anagram

[rigid snow]

if i had a job that would justify me vibecoding

then yeah sure

[azure lynx]

replace each proper noun with a random person you know's name

make it more personal to you

[sage crag]

replace every vowel with a consonant that makes a similar sounding word if pronounced right

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421861060507602944/1425936142754123927/neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf.webp

[azure lynx]

spell every non-trivial word incorrectly.

but consistently

[sage crag]

perform a 5th order commutator on the index of the words

[azure lynx]

replace each word with the next word in the same "part of speech" in wordnet.

or a dictionary

[tender river]

vol 3 funded by

[silent cloak]

Did you know the population of humanity makes up about 500 trillion calories

[tender river]

sam altman

[sage crag]

replace a minimum number of characters in the whole text to make it follow the zipf curve exactly

[sage crag]

yuri vol3 funded by

stale ideas

of a tired author

[rigid snow]

if eat them or of what they eat

[sage crag]

who needs to keep writing their little novel or suffer verbal abuse online (or by me when i find them)

[tender river]

[silent cloak]

If you eat them

You could live off of the human race for millions of years

[sage crag]

not really

[azure lynx]

most of them don't have proper nutritional labeling. I do. (somewhere in a drawer)

[sage crag]

shelf life of about 80 years if fed and watered properly

[silent cloak]

Providing u freeze them

[sage crag]

only if you have a big enough freezer

[silent cloak]

You could live off a single person for quite a while

Over a month generally

[rigid snow]

saddest thing is i can't stop, i feel empowered now, i want it to fix everything, make everything work, even if by ruining the code, i'm gonna go broke in 10hrs

[sage crag]

in 15 years there will be vibecoding addiction psas in primary schools

[rigid snow]

i've spent $10+ so far

it's that bad

[silent cloak]

Yes

[sage crag]

theyll have assemblies with anecdotes from former vibecoding addicts

[rigid snow]

not a question

[silent cloak]

You shouldn't give them a penny

[sage crag]

what about a pound

[silent cloak]

It will rot the developer out of you

[azure lynx]

how long did it take to spend $10? and how long would it have taken you to fix the problems it's introduced... i mean fixed so far without AI?

you can quit whenever you want

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/shuukura-shuukura-picmix-sendai-hazuki-miyagi-shiori-gif-8855754228921947924

sleepy

[tender river]

why

[silent cloak]

AI is not good with codebases

[rigid snow]

took like an hour or two
would have taken me like 2 days

[silent cloak]

Tf were u doing

[rigid snow]

something i'm not good at obviously

[azure lynx]

was it worth the cost?

[rigid snow]

otherwise i wouldn't be using claude

[silent cloak]

Its not good at it either, just more confident

[sage crag]

not sleep

[rigid snow]

not at all

[sage crag]

uee

[rigid snow]

regret

[sage crag]

i can hear

foxes in heat

[silent cloak]

That one project will cost us another year without ram

Smh

[sage crag]

it sounds like screaming

[azure lynx]

is your time worth $5 a day?

[sage crag]

i never get used to it

[tender river]

tell foxes that

good neighbors dont scream at 1am

[silent cloak]

Idk man

I do it all the time

I use my aztech death whistle

[sage crag]

ill do it with my government approved infrared lazer

[rigid snow]

it's not about the time, this is just a thing i wanted to do so i would have spent the time regardless

for free

[silent cloak]

"Grok make this thing for me badly"

[azure lynx]

"MNIST example code: write me a 3d AI servant"

should be done quickly. it's a very small model.

[silent cloak]

Uses a python 2 version of tensorflow

It doesn't know

[rigid snow]

"maybe"

"whispering"

[azure lynx]

"this time it'll be different, babe. I listened to you and i understand you this time."

[rigid snow]

i like my ai autistic

gpt 5 non chat is perfect

[sage crag]

well this is gonna be interesting

[rigid snow]

tf is going on

[silent cloak]

"I SAID USE THE DOCS"

https://tenor.com/view/richard-attenborough-whip-whipped-whiplash-whiplashed-gif-16731040

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

not evil

[silent cloak]

LGTM force push

[rigid snow]

training data cutoff predates the spread of the term vibecoding

[amber fractal]

I still don't know what LGTM means to this day

[rigid snow]

looks good to me

[silent cloak]

Looks good to me

Every Sr developer must know this

Never give feedback on a PR

Or any useful info

[amber fractal]

[silent cloak]

Just reply LGTM and merge

[real sierra]

PR feedback = maintainer application

[azure lynx]

ya. feels like "meh. I trust you. Ship it."

[silent cloak]

Literally

[amber fractal]

I would have never gotten that meaning otherwise

[sage crag]

wrr

[amber fractal]

thanks

[silent cloak]

They just check the tests

[real sierra]

what does your ai friend think about unity

[tender river]

_chayleaf_

[real sierra]

what is a chayleaf

[silent cloak]

Which version

[tender river]

a left associative binary operator

[rigid snow]

lgtm

2 👍 4 🚀

asfadsfsaf merged commit 2736a8af into main

[azure lynx]

ask it which version was best?

[silent cloak]

Literally

[real sierra]

left associativity is nice

[real sierra]

actually valid take

[silent cloak]

I have to extend my backend tomorrow

[sage crag]

binary operation or binary operation?

[silent cloak]

Im doing most of the public api and routing in ts

[real sierra]

[tender river]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1425866152424505394.png?size=160&name=ElvynSerius&lossless=true

[silent cloak]

But i need to process some information elsewhere because I am not using TS for computation

[rigid snow]

teamspeak

this shit

[sage crag]

theres more

[silent cloak]

User has been banned from your channel

[real sierra]

this message is a binary operation of binary operations

[sage crag]

it apply on a binary or on binary?

[tender river]

no

it binary

not on binary

not on a binary

[real sierra]

chay is math person

[sage crag]

the result is binary or in binary?

[silent cloak]

Math people are real?

[sage crag]

its complex

[tender river]

result is

non-terminating

[azure lynx]

AIs are math people. sort of. in a way.

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-understood-that-reference-look-back-gif-14556485

[sage crag]

non-terminating could still be in binary, or binary

or both

[tender river]

you can ascribe it any type you want

it wont be a contradiction

[sage crag]

im taking your letters

[silent cloak]

Generic types

[tender river]

[silent cloak]

<T>

[sage crag]

hi t

[tender river]

hi t

[stray dragon]

hi konii

hi chayleaf

[silent cloak]

No way

[stray dragon]

yes way

[silent cloak]

Its generic type

[stray dragon]

it's me

no that's T

[sage crag]

you are 30 __

[stray dragon]

not t

[silent cloak]

From the famous abstraction

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-pats-pet-bunny-pats-gif-19861222

[stray dragon]

i'm just a common iterable name, especially for time units

[tender river]

thief

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421861060507602944/1425936142754123927/neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf.webp

what am i gonna do with all of these letters?

[rigid snow]

programming nonsense again

[stray dragon]

alphabet soup

[sage crag]

its a secret

[tender river]

[silent cloak]

t is used as a shortcut for type building in elysia js

[real sierra]

t = 0

[amber fractal]

man yoinking letter is a thing

[silent cloak]

Every physics class

[sage crag]

[stray dragon]

i'm going to set you to 0 and see how YOU like it...

[sage crag]

where do letters go when you dont wear them

[real sierra]

"t"
"dt"

[silent cloak]

NOOO

[amber fractal]

Good question, void

[sage crag]

time
elapsed

[sage crag]

you may think that

but i have

[tender river]

i have to deal with deltas for incremental computation pain

[sage crag]

other plans

[tender river]

https://tenor.com/view/mini-miniko-minikomew-gif-1425820994898369756

what is going to happen

to my letters

[real sierra]

incremental computation is surely just caching

[sage crag]

i dont know

[real sierra]

mark all values as dirty or clean and you're good

[sage crag]

whats konii gonna do with the letters

[real sierra]

variable laundry

[silent cloak]

Me when my values dont shower

[tender river]

surely

[amber fractal]

force them onto shiro

[sage crag]

what if you want to undo

[real sierra]

Stinky variables will be Recalculated

[sage crag]

consent is important

[silent cloak]

How it feels working with the old Unity ui system

[real sierra]

stop

you're going to trigger me

[sage crag]

trigger like

[silent cloak]

Don't get me started

[sage crag]

a ui event

[silent cloak]

U dont know pain until u use their awful and terrible unofficially deprecated node system

[sage crag]

head fuzzy

[silent cloak]

That has grown mold and festered over years

[sage crag]

i can hear the novel i was reading

sleeppy

[real sierra]

good night bwaani

[sage crag]

eee em

missed an i

[real sierra]

oopies

ill put it in my name

[sage crag]

shiroi

wrr

[real sierra]

wrr

[sage crag]

shiiro

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/node-modules-node-node-js-nodejs-js-gif-6680851802496904033

[sage crag]

prprprprprr

2 volume curse

evidence backed by data evidence statistic

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/unity-game-dev-documentation-unity-manual-unity-doc-gif-27095341

[tender river]

it because

before 3 it not volume

it area

[sage crag]

dente

[silent cloak]

From devil may cry?

[tender river]

faire

[sage crag]

devil mey cry

[silent cloak]

Why was the devil crying

[sage crag]

it met me

and i was too awesome

[tender river]

感動

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-chair-dmc-yamato-gif-21401933

[tender river]

how do you say 感動 in english

[sage crag]

i didnt steal its lunch money

[sage crag]

like ⓣ

[stray dragon]

yes that's me

[tender river]

oh right it a verb so "be moved"

english annoying

[sage crag]

ⓣⓣⓣⓣ

ⓣ

hi

oh im a genius

ⓣ ⓣ
ⓣ
ⓣⓣⓣⓣ ⓣ
ⓣ ⓣ ⓣ
ⓣ ⓣ ⓣ

[stray dragon]

hi konii

[sage crag]

[tender river]

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

emialso

mibile

[rigid snow]

osu

[sage crag]

ohisee

beatmap

[tender river]

2007

[tender river]

also monospace space

[amber fractal]

I was racking my brain on the other part of why it is it was off and didn't think of monospace

[sage crag]

its just like me

[amber fractal]

[sage crag]

yeye

me not pc

no monospace

[tender river]

it talking about axing

still super annoying

[rigid snow]

error i get is linking to a docs page that has beginner in the url

[sage crag]

i just had a thought and no one can ever hear it

it will follow me to the grave

[tender river]

we will see

about that

[sage crag]

too much thinking not enough playing soft rain ambience in my head

[sage crag]

its hollow

what can you do

[tender river]

wrr

[sage crag]

[tender river]

hollow

me head

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1452612577145262183/3DNeuroCutenessAmbushWithBeautifulScenery.gif

no mind to think

[tender river]

brain can fit either

vm

or

yuri

[sage crag]

eatyourvm

[azure lynx]

good idea.

[rigid snow]

[tender river]

ert

wai doki doki

nee suki suki

ai tsuki tsuki chine chine chine chine

[sage crag]

controversial opinion

[azure lynx]

did they only find out each line needed to be longer after they wrote the first version of the lyrics? and then they just repeated the last word?

[sage crag]

gentle rain

better than heavy rain

audiowise

[azure lynx]

more smooth, spectrally.

[sage crag]

i dont care about that

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1452612577145262183/3DNeuroCutenessAmbushWithBeautifulScenery.gif

its a better noise because im the noise judge

[azure lynx]

you might, but not realize that's what you care about.

[sage crag]

objectively better noise

[sage crag]

you may not realise it but im in your house

please do not resist

[azure lynx]

sorry about the mess. i've been meaning to get a maid.

[sage crag]

awful

[azure lynx]

none of it's organic. it's mostly robot parts and tools.

[tender river]

no mind means

thought flow in via osmosis

down the concentration gradient

energy efficient

require periodic emptying of brain

[real sierra]

i need onUnitCircle

of course the Random class has the other 3

idk what i was expecting

i was wrong i can actually use one of these 3 for my needs

[azure lynx]

if you need onUnitCircle, can you get a random float between 0 and 2*PI and then x=cos(r),y=sin(r)?

[amber fractal]

Man I love manually broadcasting

numpy won't cast if otherwise compatible array is used as a mask

so I can't use a (2, 1, 16) mask on a (2, 3, 16) array

[azure lynx]

can you do the cast manually so numpy doesn't have to? perhaps make a temporary variable to hold a compatible version of the mask?

[real sierra]

yeah its easy to do but the built-in is faster

[amber fractal]

That's what I ended up doing yeah

[azure lynx]

i've always felt like i was missing something when i just resorted to doing that to get it to work.

like it should've already worked multiple different times by the time i try give up and simplify.

[amber fractal]

surprisingly for me I only needed it once

I'm still going to see what I can do anyways because I'd rather not iterate through the mask as much if I can help it.

Still can't avoid the manual broadcast tho

[amber fractal]

also I realize my example was off as I already slashed off the first dim

Still feels weird but I guess it is what I needed

[warped narwhal]

I've been trying to setup a raspberry pi as a router and it's now suddenly 4am, I swear it was 8pm just 5 minutes ago

[amber fractal]

To let chat know, turns out I'm beginning another overhaul already
These stucts are just built wrong and nothing is safe from the rewrite.

I'm going to delay it a bit, hoping to at least everything besides that glaring issue dealt with so I have a comparison for my current progress

I have a similar issue I need to solve anyways, so I might as well solve for both

I'm really regretting not doing (N,2) instead of (2,N) for values that are only used as a pair

[azure lynx]

getting teary "youtube apology video" vibes ;]

[amber fractal]

Ha, I can see it

I'm glad I ran into this mindset now instead of later

I would have repeated the mistake again.

[azure lynx]

i definitely prefer finding out i was wrong as early as possible too.

not just "that" i was wrong, but "how". "that" is a given.

[faint sandal]

[amber fractal]

4 days straight of numpy array operations is definitely not helping my sanity.

[true hemlock]

[amber fractal]

I'm hoping that after a bit more of this, 3/4 of the Neural Network's steps will be complete.

I'm just hoping the last part just works, but if not the skeleton already exists at least.

[orchid crest]

python?

[true hemlock]

Numpy

[rain flame]

Boy dont I have news do the regulars

[opaque sigil]

what if he's dealing with the c core

smh

[rain flame]

https://youtube.com/shorts/-VecgnshHzA?si=48Lw2Q4RqrtBk0lz

Well

This could be an upgrade lol

[opaque sigil]

I'm out when he said silicone

[real sierra]

im so confused

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-clumsy-hurt-fell-off-bed-gif-12276485

Goodmorning

[real sierra]

this is

such a weeird bug

[frosty summit]

happy birthdayyyy!!!!!

what is it?

[real sierra]

the entities im spawning on the server will randomly be invisible

like

the first one is always visible, but after that

it's like 80% invisible

[frosty summit]

minecraft server?

[real sierra]

20% visible

[real sierra]

fumoquest server

[stone badge]

i can write print('Hello World') in python, am i a programmer now?

[frosty summit]

i dont know this game 🙁

[real sierra]

that's because im the one making it

#1460386243601764382

ok i switched spawning to LateUpdate instead of Update and now they're always invisible

my hunch was right

[frosty summit]

oh mmorpg wow

and you created tread on my birthday lol

[obsidian mantle]

shiro the birthday wizard

[real sierra]

ooh, happy belated birthday!

[obsidian mantle]

is it networking issue again

[real sierra]

moving it to FixedUpdate didnt fix either

idk whats happening here

[frosty summit]

now Shiro is the one who congratulates! ^-^

[real sierra]

unclear?

[frosty summit]

thanks

[real sierra]

the entity spawns on all clients

[rustic nacelle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059569601144442911/1069918916282949672/ezgif.com-gif-maker_6.gif

[real sierra]

and everything else about it works fine

[frosty summit]

nuclear

[real sierra]

it's just invisible

[obsidian mantle]

oh so only sprite is not visible?

[real sierra]

yeah

but the sprite is set?

[obsidian mantle]

can you check if sprite component is there at all

[real sierra]

it is

[obsidian mantle]

i mean after spawn

[real sierra]

yes

it is

i tried enabling and disabling it, tried changing the render order

nothing

[obsidian mantle]

maybe its somewhere far away or behind the floor

[real sierra]

tried changing the sprite to another

[obsidian mantle]

remove floor

[real sierra]

it's not

[obsidian mantle]

[real sierra]

i changed the render order to make sure of that

[obsidian mantle]

maybe it bugged

[real sierra]

also, its hp bar shows clearly and in the right spot

[real sierra]

i have to fix it

[obsidian mantle]

but hp isnt spawned by server

[real sierra]

no the server also spawns the hp readout

[obsidian mantle]

can you get entire transform of sprite and remove floor

[real sierra]

in the exact same way

[obsidian mantle]

[tender river]

i'm reverse engineering an oop codebase

and it's all

[obsidian mantle]

whats the difference between hp bar and enemy then

[glass jetty]

goodluck

[tender river]

singleton service provider controller

type stuff

oop is so hard to re because everything is hidden behind interfaces

[real sierra]

[tender river]

so you dont know what actually gets called where

[azure lynx]

hp bar needs hitbox so you can destroy their hitpoints directly.

[obsidian mantle]

switch places, spawn enemy instead of hp bar and hp bar instead of enemy

will it be the same way but

reversed

[real sierra]

wait

maybe i figured it out

[nocturne olive]

Unity once again beaing a great Godot ad

[real sierra]

no

i did not figure it out

nothing changed

[azure lynx]

all your enemies should have in-world in-game elements (non-diegetic elements that are actually diegetic)

[nocturne olive]

The solution is clearly to rewrite in Godot

[obsidian mantle]

i would do this and then you would know if the problem is within enemy object or spawning mechanism

[real sierra]

it doesnt work like that

[obsidian mantle]

why

[real sierra]

i cant just switch them

they have completely different behaviours?

one is an HP bar and the other is walking around

[obsidian mantle]

yes you will have hp bars walking around

[real sierra]

no it doesnt work like that

[azure lynx]

hp bar would need to be created with an object to track. enemy does not

[obsidian mantle]

ok i see what you mean they dont have legs

[real sierra]

the hp bar doesnt even have a texture its just a UI element

[obsidian mantle]

see it might also be invisible

its nonexistent sprite

[real sierra]

they're literally spawned in the exact same way

i have no idea why this doesnt work

[obsidian mantle]

they are very different creatures as you say though

[azure lynx]

it probably doesn't initialize properly.

[real sierra]

everything else about it initializes correctly

in fact, even the sprite is correctly set

[obsidian mantle]

try spawning something else

[azure lynx]

is there something programmatic about it that affects the texture which isn't working?

[real sierra]

the character spawns every time i test with no issue

[real sierra]

the texture isnt touched at runtime

it's baked into the prefab

[obsidian mantle]

does it all spawn in the same moment or enemies spawn later in the game

[azure lynx]

for the hp bar?

[obsidian mantle]

i assume player spawned on init

[real sierra]

the hp bar does not have a texture i said this

[obsidian mantle]

and you want enemies to spawn on update

[real sierra]

the player is not spawned on init

it's a multiplayer gmae

enemies do spawn on update tho

[obsidian mantle]

can you spawn players

[real sierra]

yes i said this

[obsidian mantle]

instead of enemies same way?

[nocturne olive]

I did know Unity is weird but didn't expect it to be this broken

[olive sable]

[azure lynx]

this does not appear to be a typical experience... maybe a typical first experience.

[nocturne olive]

Godot clearly has a better experience as it doesn't have issues like that
It just does what you tell it to

[obsidian mantle]

compare player and enemy

[azure lynx]

so does unity. if you know how to tell it what to do.

[nocturne olive]

Well the way for Unity is clearly convoluted and confusing while Godot is straigforward and logical

[real sierra]

i was gonna go to bed an hour ago

"ill just fix this one last bug!"

[amber fractal]

As soon as I saw the shape I knew I've already seen it

[obsidian mantle]

think outside of the box

[amber fractal]

like several months ago

maybe even a year ago

[amber fractal]

If the duck didn't make it clear, yeah python. I don't even think swapping lanuages has any benifits yet.

It isn't even the fact array operations are hard, its the fact the data operations I'm attempting to do doesn't exist yet.

at least in terms of yoinking code from someone else

So nope, swapping to a diffrent lanuage is a nice thought but isn't entirely helpful yet.

[real sierra]

im really unsure what's causing the bug

the objects are identical in every way i can test

so im just gonna go to bed

[obsidian mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

they are under the floor

tried to remember what problem i had with that z coordinate in 2d

i think it was that i expected it working not like it worked

like decreasing z put it forward while it feels like it should be the opposite

i guess its not it here

[glass jetty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzEKGlO9w4Y

new channel with best visualizations

core dumped + bit lemon
i really got so many details, that i missed, from them

-# discovered bit lemon just now btw

[amber fractal]

Shame I see so many comments on coredumped videos thinking the content is trash because of the AI voiceover

[glass jetty]

i usually not read comments unless i have questions

[amber fractal]

I do myself some reading because I like reading

reading speed is fast enough to where comments don't really inconvience me

[amber fractal]

Yippie I am past the 3/4 mark after 4 days

unfortantly the last part doesn't work instantly, but considering I expected numpy to broadcast when it couldn't in that code it makes sense

I rest for the night, geez I needed it

[glass jetty]

no, really, i wish there was at least this 2 channels back to time when i started

i still have a looot of question how it works, but visualization definitely help

just checking out other vids from lemon, and they all also great in term of goddess visualization

most of info (they both) show is something i already knew, but some times they point something new, and overall just having visual reference is good

[left solstice]

Hey devs I'm just a beginner learning c++ in uni and don't know much about web dev but I was getting frustrated with the discord client's performance so I tried to debug the reason. Discord on firefox is fine and doesn't lag for some reason. I used the normal client for a while but it was unreasonably laggy so I switched to using vesktop which claimed to be lightweight but it's also just as bad. It's practically running at 2 fps the whole time:

I used the performance tab to record a trace but I have no idea what to make of it since I've never debugged a site before

[ivory plinth]

desktop discord lagging

[nocturne olive]

It's just a case of "Chromium bad"

Probably

Because Electron = Chromium

[left solstice]

Other electron apps i've used aren't as bad but guess discord is just very unoptimized and resource heavy

[nocturne olive]

Yea Discord devs incompetent

[left solstice]

Tho I do get the reason why electron is generally disliked for decent performance in general. Seen that argued often on electron github repos

[jagged turtle]

honestly other electron apps runs ok, I've only had real annoying issues with the discord app

[patent shard]

wonder how many people actually use the desktop app instead of just opening Discord in browser

[left solstice]

I would assume the majority do

[nocturne olive]

It sure likes to be a memory lottery
One day it'll use 1GB, another 4GB, and then another day 10GB

[left solstice]

Not wrong. I have 8GB so I can't have discord, photoshop and firefox open at the same time. Usually have to close 1 or 2 of those first

[glass jetty]

just use web

unless i have issues with internet i have no any issue with discord

but discord client for linux have massive memory leak

over 10gb in 2 hours

[left solstice]

Might have to start doing that instead. Not sure but didn't the devs also say something like, a new update will automatically restart discord if the memory leaks consumes more than 4GB of ram?

[glass jetty]

ahahhaha

best way

to fix

program

just restart it

[left solstice]

Duh

[glass jetty]

.
btw, we consider this condition for our app

we use third party camera lib from china

but it take 15mb per day

and our target industrial facility power off everything every day, or other every week/month

so there no any restart logic...

[glass jetty]

imagine having discord restart mid-call / mid-convo

[warm zealot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/1pej7l7/restart_on_excessive_memory_usage_experiment/

[glass jetty]

basically restart is last reserve, it when you cannot fix it with code after detecting the error

[warm zealot]

restarting on ram usage is still a crazy thing for something to have to do though

[glass jetty]

let me restart discord app and than also librefox itself

[left solstice]

Discord only has like a billion users. They can't afford proper fixes to their app being such a small company. Please understand /s

[rigid snow]

vscode can suck sometimes too

[jagged turtle]

sometimes, but usually for me that happens because I have like 50 quintillion extension activated and actively scanning my stuff and also have to open a game engine and some browser tabs as well

game engine is optional but makes it happen more consistently

[glass jetty]

vscode suck so much that i moved to nvim (from vscode-vim)

[glass jetty]

just vim, clangd+clang-tidy, git-history-diff extension, better comments, and its all basically
without any other apps running enough cpu time it start lagging in 20 min

especially noticeable with vi movement

[opaque sigil]

I get bothered more by slow language servers than anything else tbh

[frozen hollow]

Why does mine run fine

[jagged turtle]

yeah tbh lsps are the bigger problem

[opaque sigil]

Which is an editor agnostic problem

[jagged turtle]

like at the very least you can toggle extensions on and off manually so there is some workaround

lsps are kinda needed for developer tasks

[glass jetty]

idk, clangd work perfectly

wdym by slow lsp? you need lsp support only while reading code or for auto-completion witch is cached anyway

[jagged turtle]

yeah that's the problem

lsps being slow makes go to definition and syntax highlighting slow

and yes the second one isn't necessarily an lsp problem

[glass jetty]

erm

[jagged turtle]

but it happens a lot with extensions that also happen to power lsps so

[glass jetty]

in time when i open file and /target gd

it already loaded

means like 0.5 sec or less

its after using rg target for example

[jagged turtle]

isn't that and the lsp separate? tho ig it depends on the tooling you use

[glass jetty]

my toolchain is nvim here lul

only related is vim itself

[opaque sigil]

clangd is one of the faster servers thankfully

[glass jetty]

https://github.com/CharaVerKys/nvim

[jagged turtle]

also lsps powers code diagnostics, references, and symbols which are pretty important while authoring code

also interestingly they are going to start defining LSIF now

[amber fractal]

I don't really rely on autocomplete, only thing is var names not existing and that is it.
Even so I don't really use it all the time, just mostly on projects that are a bit larger that could use the type hinting.

[glass jetty]

wdym? it so simple when you can just Cam<c-Space><CR>

[jagged turtle]

hoenstly i don't think I've ever used autocomplete from an lsp that isn't the json lsp

[glass jetty]

it search for Cam begin types in current context only

with only included headers

so usually it save a lot of time against CamerasModuleSettings

[amber fractal]

I just don't use it, I don't know what to tell you.

[glass jetty]

poor guy

[amber fractal]

most of the time even bracket pairs rub me the wrong way so I don't use editors that much

I do use nvim, just with no plugins at all.

[jagged turtle]

i still don't like the fact that you cannot define ui and workspace extension entrypoints in a vscode extension

also you can't depend on extension APIs if said extension that exports the API is on another extension host

like if they had resolved at least one of that then it would hurt less

[amber fractal]

That seems so arbitrary to me

I get they want you to use the offical store but geez

[glass jetty]

erm, for sure base vim is enough
only thing i miss rn is better comments and good spell checking

both things that i can do on my own

but i just dont for some reasons, being lazy basically

actually, this one is pretty good
~/.config/nvim/lua/plugins/gitsigns.nvim/

require("gitsigns").setup {
    current_line_blame = true,
    on_attach = function(bufnr)
        local gits = package.loaded.gitsigns
        local opts = {buffer = bufnr, noremap = true}
        vim.keymap.set('n', '<Space>c', function() gits.next_hunk() end, opts);
        vim.keymap.set('n', '<Space>C', function() gits.prev_hunk() end, opts);
        vim.keymap.set('n', '<Space>s', gits.stage_hunk, opts);
        vim.keymap.set('n', '<Space>d', gits.undo_stage_hunk, opts);
    end
}

[jagged turtle]

?

[amber fractal]

I assumed if a ext was hosted via a different place like a github repo then it is uninteractable with something installed from say offical MS plugin store.
At least that is how I read it

[jagged turtle]

no

that's not a thing

[glass jetty]

i hope we talk about vscodium

[jagged turtle]

basically what I meant is that in remote dev scenarios there are two extension hosts

[jagged turtle]

partially applies to vscodium too

[jagged turtle]

but a single extension can only define one entrypoint at a time

and you can't install that extension across both extension runtimes

[amber fractal]

I admit if I spent more time writing code instead of drafting out ideas for code then I'd have more use for autocomplete and such. But most of the time is spent researching already with little code to make it up.

[jagged turtle]

you also can't get an extension's API if it's on another host

[amber fractal]

also editing numpy arrays for the n-th time

[opaque sigil]

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

[glass jetty]

:vedalEye:

[sage crag]

[glass jetty]

[sage crag]

[jagged turtle]

I found out that if you point to an invalid entrypoint in pyproject.toml it takes 10 years for uv to be "sorry bruv we got no idea what you referring to"

[rigid snow]

entrypoint

nuh uh you do source .venv/bin/activate && .venv/bin/python main.py

[jagged turtle]

"entrypoint" in quotes

I probably used the incorrect terminology there but that's what I get for trying to sound like I know what I'm doing

(I sometimes do)

[rigid snow]

i don’t know if uv even has entrypoints

[jagged turtle]

no I probably used the wrong term

like, if you point to an invalid file/function in the project.scripts object or smth it takes 10 years for it to actually throw

[opaque wharf]

Python ecosystem is so incredibly cursed that I don't know how to describe it

[jagged turtle]

and people shit on js for being weird

[jagged turtle]

also yes as a person who tried to publish a package on pypi once I can confidently say that it is very very weird

mostly in the cursed direction

[opaque sigil]

It's gotten better thanks to uv but uhhh yeah

[left solstice]

Used Lighthouse instead and it seems to be mostly inefficient javascript and UI rendering + running everything on the main thread which causes massive lag spikes hundred times a minute. Should probably just switch to using browser at this point

[rigid snow]

LMAOOOOOOOO

where’s the oh so wanted discord firefox wrapper

i want discord to use 40% of my cpu and 8gb of ram at all times where do i download

[nocturne olive]

Hem?

[opaque sigil]

https://github.com/mozilla/positron surely one can make it work

[olive sable]

i finished my exams

now i have 2 and a half weeks of vacation

[rigid snow]

have a good and a half weeks

[sage crag]

zero and a half

[glass jetty]

emptiness

[opaque wharf]

Thank you ALSA maintainer for fixing my audio

[real sierra]

[brisk laurel]

Help

[opaque wharf]

Still on unity?

[brisk laurel]

My laptop keeps disconnecting with my internet connection

[real sierra]

yeah

project has a weird bug that I'm having trouble fixing

[opaque wharf]

The rewrite is inevitable

[real sierra]

but I'm kinda out of ideas

I can't even imagine what could be causing it at this point

[hard delta]

sounds like a great time to go to sleep

[real sierra]

I just woke up

lmao

[hard delta]

sounds like a time to go to sleep

[brisk laurel]

Basically this

[hard delta]

omg lysara in prog!

[brisk laurel]

Good night

[hard delta]

oh i'm not going i'm sending shiro back to sleep

[real sierra]

must attend class

[hard delta]

just dream about the class

tell prof. you've attended in your dreams

technically if you can recite the contents of the class he's gonna be speechless and forced to accept

[hard delta]

well first off, those icons are often silly - they may update late, etc

second, you see "connected" even if you're just connected to a vpn or such

[brisk laurel]

No i can't update cause i have no wifi

[hard delta]

because technically vpns pretend to be another network card

[brisk laurel]

So you're saying i have to uninstall my vpn?

Even if im not logged in?

[olive sable]

numlock wasnt on
2 and a half weeks

[hard delta]

it's by far the first sus thing that comes to mind, honestly.

but before you do anything uuuh

do you see anything "extra" here?

other than what you'd expect to be your ethernet, wifi, and bluetooth?

if there's some VPN stuff or such there, and it's green most of the time
then i guess the VPN itself having connectivity issues would still look like you're connected (but with no internet)
cause as far as windows is concerned, the vpn -is- the network, and you never intended to leave it confines

in which case first step would be trying if the issue persists even without a vpn

[real sierra]

"where did you get this formula"
"Source: it came to be in a dream"

[hard delta]

*Ramanujan told me in a dream

[real sierra]

my friend who is really good at math told me but you wouldn't know them they go to another school

[glass jetty]

evening

[nocturne olive]

At some point the benefits of rewriting to Godot outweight the time spent by saving time spent dealing with Unity nonsense

[glass jetty]

so, basically, you have internet on phone, by wifi, and not by mobile network, but cant open anything on laptop?

[real sierra]

it must just be something really simple I'm missing

[nocturne olive]

Or it's one of those Unity "wontfix" bugs

[real sierra]

I just don't know what's happening here

the inconsistency makes it seem like a race condition but like

in unity of all things?

[nocturne olive]

I wouldn't be surprised

[glass jetty]

try run it single threaded

[real sierra]

I'm not exactly doing something crazy here

spawning an object is a one-liner

it's a built-in function

and almost every aspect of it works correctly it's just the sprite

[nocturne olive]

Unity be like

[real sierra]

I can't find any Stack overflow posts of such an issue

no one in history has ever heard of a sprite renderer not performing its namesake function

[nocturne olive]

Average Unity behavior

[real sierra]

"use components for everything! no you can't use them that way"

[nocturne olive]

In Godot you'd just load the thing you want to spawn from a scene tree file and add it to the active scene, and be done with it

[real sierra]

it usually works like that in unity

until now

[nocturne olive]

Well in Godot is just works

No nonsense, just functionality

[glass jetty]

-# sound similar to rust propaganda for some reasons

[real sierra]

it just doesn't make any sense what's happening

[stone badge]

any good statistics book recommendations for ML

[glass jetty]

i guess learn programming first xD

[real sierra]

you can learn ML with a math background instead of a programming background

[nocturne olive]

Average Unity issue be like

[real sierra]

ML at its heart is just a method for tuning parameters of a general function approximator

[nocturne olive]

ML is math++

[glass jetty]

(boring as fuck)

[real sierra]

yeah I'm not super interested in ML either but whether I'm interested or not has nothing to do with the question at hand

[glass jetty]

ML now is 2(3) sets: design/programming task for nn, (fine tuning model), try to make something new in ML in general

last one is most important in general and most useless in average

so basically, you just should provide to nn already wide amount of data, and it should be predictable overtime/ (or overspace based on your task)

[real sierra]

I do think ML is extremely valuable in its ability to remove the step of human analysis of the dynamics of a system prior to automated control of or response to it

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

but also I don't get the hype

[glass jetty]

you can just start doing what you want, and than change whatever you see wrong
there a lot of ready-to-work solutions

predicting human hand as can with 80% accuracy

[real sierra]

well I hope gamedev general replies with some wisdom

if I can't fix this problem then it's just gg

game will have to be rewritten in Godot or something

it'll be genuinely impossible to continue

[nocturne olive]

It'd be funny if Unity really just gives up on working and you rewrite in Godot

[warm zealot]

what i miss about unity whenever i use godot is being able to fly around, view, and edit the world while having the game running

if thats possible in godot please let me know 🙏

so many weird issues that turn out to just be hitboxes that happened to be in wrong y positions but i couldnt tell because my camera was top down

[nocturne olive]

Remote view?

Set the editor to the remote when the game is running

It at least lets you modify scene tree properties

[opaque sigil]

ue5 fumoquest

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

it would be good content to see the process

[nocturne olive]

Who's ready for 50GB of game?

[opaque sigil]

a worthy sacrifice

[rigid snow]

ue 2d

awawawawwawawwawaawwa

[opaque wharf]

I swear to god bambu likes to mess with me

Who comes up with the genius idea to send a file through the internet only to download it again

[real sierra]

I'd stream fumoquest development if it didn't dox me

[opaque sigil]

the random crashouts are better

[real sierra]

for you maybe

[opaque wharf]

Nah, add me to the list

[olive sable]

[visual pawn]

there is a LAN only mode but I hear it's limited

[rigid snow]

god damn this is bad. this is my synth loop i made and uploaded to suno. like maybe 5% of this is true

it's 150 bpm in c#min, there is no percussion, no drums, no snares, no brass or brass-style anything, what fucking gated reverb on what snare there is no snare, what verse chorus structure IT'S A 12 SECOND LOOP, there is no drop, there is no pitch bending

"eurobeat" is crazy too

who trained this shit

[opaque wharf]

It is. But I don't need many fancy feature. I just need to print F A S T

[glass jetty]

nah, question who market up raw data

[rigid snow]

[final tinsel]

i watched this video yesterday by a cornell comp sci ta who gave claude, gpt, and gemini the same assignments as the first year CS students- it was actually very interesting seeing what they did right and wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56HJQm5nb0U

thought yall might like it

[sage crag]

building librewolf from source

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

ram usage is steadily increasing

i just hit 14.4gb

[olive sable]

oh thats not too bad

blender crashed my pc 4 times by going to 72GB

[sage crag]

it keeps climbing

[olive sable]

oh

its probably gonna reach the 30gb

[sage crag]

it just dropped to 18

its 24

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1354108263901429842.webp?size=48&name=evilD&lossless=true

[olive sable]

its fluctuating

[wary mauve]

can any 1 recommend a decently fast vision model?

[sage crag]

ye

intern

and ekg

[wary mauve]

thanks goat ill look em up

[olive sable]

are you Simon Petrikov?

[warped narwhal]

going to hire someone to watch my bedroom security camera and tell me who is there every half an hour via text messages

[wary mauve]

not yet

this is diabolical early season ice king

[olive sable]

so old man with alzheimer

where is jake when you need him?

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/shuukura-shuukura-picmix-sendai-hazuki-miyagi-shiori-gif-8855754228921947924

wait wrong one

https://tenor.com/view/my-jolly-reaction-jolly-my-honest-reaction-gif-5490890317762380451

[olive sable]

accidental yuri

[rigid snow]

❤️ IT'S GAY LOVE, BABY! ❤️

[sage crag]

i have a lot of gifs