programming

[jagged turtle]

(if you're wondering, there are actually origins to each name! randy is a shortened name for random dot range, tony was named literally because of the tony lore, jippity sounds similar to GPT, and gary was called gaming gary™)

(or guidance gary depending on if the repo name or mentioned name in readme pr is more canonical)

not using a specific stt model currently, we're basically allowing any model as long as it's an stt model

[frozen hollow]

Nvidia parakeet my beloved

[wary mauve]

ohhh so its able to use multiple different stts

[jagged turtle]

yeah whichever one you pick

[wary mauve]

what about vads? will it support a vad

[jagged turtle]

idk what a vad is tbh, im not working on this project alone so

[opaque wharf]

Voice activity detection

[jagged turtle]

oh

[opaque wharf]

Not to be confused with vlad the impaler

[jagged turtle]

the lib we use has voice activity detection yea

[wary mauve]

voice activity detector, detects speech as apposed to just noises, good to put infront of STTs so they dont hallucinate words from sounds

i think

i could be wrong but the one i use does this for me

[jagged turtle]

or voluntary assisted dying

[wary mauve]

so my whisper model doesnt keep saying "thank you" because some mf coughed in discord

[opaque wharf]

I only know all of that because I need voice assistant for my home assistant lol. And openWakewords provide a very good explanation in their repo

[wary mauve]

wanting to add "game integration" type stuff for my current AI so tryna see how neuro-sama interacts with the SDKs so this helps, and how it decides to take actions but i assume its all dynamic when you start an integration so it loads the extra tools it can use

[opaque wharf]

https://github.com/dscripka/openWakeWord

And in true open source spirit, some of the wake word is quite colourful

No one has made "hey clanker" yet tho

[wary mauve]

I like the idea of a wake word but makes me think about them in a google home light instead of someone whos attached / in the group

So atm I just take all speech, and when theres silence for x seconds I prompt the transcript with a system prompt that tells him he's apart of a group convo and not everything is targeted towards him, and such, also a patience meter incase its too noisy and they can't get a word in, so they can

[obsidian mantle]

I think i used 2019.. and i remember there were windows forms and some other way...

I also remember that it was hard to google for some reason

[acoustic finch]

Risking sounding a bit like a idiot this to me looks like a low level custom mcp right?

Wel more mix of client/mcp

I mean i geuss its quite complicated to execute and get the data from these games

But i did assume there was more happening on the model side

[visual pawn]

I'm not sure what counts as low-level, but MCP is just a specific standard protocol so yeah

[acoustic finch]

I mean i geuss in my head i was reaching a bit for the stars thinking of a custom transformer

[mighty bane]

My tool is a minimal console app written in C#

[acoustic finch]

Since i saw a custom transformer for playing cs2 trainend on pro data

[visual pawn]

well this wouldn't be the model that is actually trained on that kind of data

just a method for communication between an LLM and whatever

I've never actually used Github LFS; what is the actual limit for it (not per-file)?

all the documentation I can find only talks about per-file limits

[acoustic finch]

No makes sense its a pretty intresting concept tho https://youtu.be/sOgfvb8y9j8?si=zM7TEw1jWQSr0E6R but ofc a lot more work

I might see i if i can do something simmilar more small scale

Or at least try

[frozen hollow]

https://github.com/pricing/calculator?feature=lfs

[visual pawn]

alright, 10gb ain't bad

[warped narwhal]

I've started self-hosting all my git stuff and I can't believe the power no more file limits for me!

[opaque wharf]

Your SSD / HDD would say hello to you

[visual pawn]

everything I've worked with in the past needing large files were the kinds of files I'd never upload publicly so

[rigid snow]

genuinely how tf do you hit any storage limits on github

[warped narwhal]

I have a 5tb hdd that's been lying around for years, so I'm happy that it is finally getting some use

[opaque wharf]

@olive sable

[warped narwhal]

unity projects :D

[olive sable]

[visual pawn]

the images I'm working with are >100 MB large

[olive sable]

i have not hit the limit before

[opaque wharf]

The good old day when Sam places the git repo at onedrive

[olive sable]

wdym?

i still do that

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

more of a back-up tho. i havent had easy acces to onedrive since moving to linux

[rigid snow]

don't use github duh assets are big

some would go as far as to say to not use git

[acoustic finch]

Doesnt unity have there own build in solution for version control etc?

[visual pawn]

svn then?

[rigid snow]

ye

perforce is a big one too

forgot how it's called had to google

[olive sable]

i have discvered a website where they sell used lighting stuff

and while it doesn thave the thing i was lookignf or

i can get a 12000 lumen projector for 500 bucks

[frozen hollow]

Unity

[rigid snow]

don't use github for game sources

[frozen hollow]

No I will

[opaque wharf]

Sam is starting his NileRed arc. Buying used industrial stuff

[warped narwhal]

using it to store LLM weights instead

[olive sable]

31000 lumen
you could burn the image into the retinas of everyone watching

[rigid snow]

hf seems like a better place for your game

than github is

[rough bloom]

sounds perfect for ads

[olive sable]

[rough bloom]

big money

[olive sable]

i can put a red trianlge onto the church from 500m away

[rigid snow]

how will you power it

[olive sable]

oh

i need one of them insdustrial sockets maybe???

[opaque wharf]

Do you have 3 phase power to your home?

[nocturne olive]

I think EU doesn't do that, we just have 230V power

[olive sable]

oh it only uses 3100W

should be fine

[frozen hollow]

Only

[opaque wharf]

Isn't german house have 3 phase by default?

[nocturne olive]

Only 14.5 amps

[opaque wharf]

3 phase 230V

[frozen hollow]

Just running a kettle on constantly

[olive sable]

i have 3680W in one socket, i dont need 3 phase

[rigid snow]

we have 3 phase here if to a house

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, most of the outside words have 3 phase to house. Meanwhile me and my measly single phase 220V

[olive sable]

we can get 3 phase, but most houses dont

[rigid snow]

iran really said give me all of em

[opaque wharf]

TIL that we have upgraded to 230V

[olive sable]

bangladesh seems to have 5

[rigid snow]

wtf yea

[olive sable]

also, isnt iran only 1 on that image?

[opaque wharf]

I ran

[olive sable]

jordan also has 5

[rigid snow]

that's crazy

i meant saudi

[opaque wharf]

Still on 220V, but according to wiki they only use type C and F

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_electricity_by_country?wprov=sfla1

[rigid snow]

why would you use multiple

seems so inconvenient

[olive sable]

because fuck u

[opaque wharf]

Industry inertia is one hell of a drug

[gloomy charm]

Could be worse japan has two slightly diffrent power grids that can't be combined

One uses 50hz the other 60hz

[obsidian mantle]

[opaque wharf]

HOW

[gloomy charm]

I think it was down to when they industrialised and then due to post war rebuilding

[opaque wharf]

Ohhh, yeah forgot about that incident

[gloomy charm]

Here is what I found. This difference arose as the first generators, functioning at 50 Hz, were imported to Japan from Germany and were installed in the east of the country. After the Second World War, 60 Hz generators were brought from the USA and installed in the western grid.

[opaque wharf]

That's fucked up

[gloomy charm]

It's like they drive I on the left as the British built the train network.
Could be worse tho Switzerland uses slightly diffrent plug to those around them

More places should use the UK one it is so over engineered but super safe

[opaque wharf]

I can tolerate different plug tho because that is easy enough to compete in standard. But the national grid is a whole other thing

[opaque wharf]

True, but the size is too big IMHO. Schuko reign superior in terms of safety and size

[gloomy charm]

Yer the grid is a real issue even more so for when they need to balance the network

[gloomy charm]

You could build uk plugs sockets to be recessed then wouldn't be an issue. That's the reason the schuko is so small

[opaque wharf]

I mean the prongs. Those thick boi are a hassle to carry in a bag

[gloomy charm]

I do like having fuses in the plug tho. That would be a great addition to schuko.

[gloomy charm]

Ah makes sense. Yer the prongs are big

[opaque wharf]

I can agree to that one

[gloomy charm]

The ground being the first pin and the reason the socket opens is also super nice feature. Oh and the on off switch on the plug

But maybe I am just saying this as slightly traumatised by the wiring I have in france 😅

[opaque wharf]

I think the on off are available on some schuko. And since schuko also connects the earth first no? The sides makes contact before the prongs even enter the receptacle

[gloomy charm]

That it does but with the UK plug the ground opens little flaps for the live and earth. So you shouldn't be able to stick something in there without first grounding. If that makes sense

Why the prong is slightly longer

[frozen hollow]

Ya

But I’ve been all over Japan and never needed to consider the plug

Maybe it’s on the other islands

[gloomy charm]

It's not a plug issue it is an appliance issue. Some will just not work as expected

[rigid snow]

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[frozen hollow]

Ah well I assume stuff you’d take on a trip tends to be switching power like MacBook charger or whatever

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, but some schuko here also have child safety door like that. Granted it can be opened without connected to earth by a curious enough child

[olive sable]

aight, i bid $620 on a Lightcrafter 4500
we shall see

its $100 shipping so i hope i dont have to go too much higher

720usd is like 600 euro

buying one from texas instruments directly would be 1118 euro

[silent island]

Windows... I asked you to shut DOWN, not ts smhh.... ☠️

[opaque wharf]

This is an example outlet that have the child protection door

[olive sable]

where is the door part?

[opaque wharf]

The hole looks black because of the door

[olive sable]

???

is that not normal?

[opaque wharf]

Nope

[olive sable]

it should be

[rough bloom]

it's normal if you have shit lighting

[opaque wharf]

Well yeah, but old installation rarely gets updated

[rough bloom]

but ye the child protection thing isn't really normal in my experience

[opaque wharf]

Compare to this one where you can see right through the contact

[olive sable]

i odnt think any of our sockets have the raw contacts

[silent island]

An indonesian outlet lmao

[olive sable]

even the older ones we have you needed to twist a frontplate 90 degrees

[rigid snow]

this one is the standard here

[rigid snow]

this scares me

[opaque wharf]

Yep. We just discuss about electrical standard and I am from Indonesia

[visual pawn]

EU sockets feel so large to me as an NAer

[opaque wharf]

And it is still being sold

[olive sable]

we used to have smaller ones

but they got panned

banned

same thing

[rigid snow]

which ones got banned huh

[gloomy charm]

Na plugs scare me.

[rough bloom]

the child protection sockets are annoying sometimes
door stuck

[rigid snow]

oh yeah that happens

[gloomy charm]

God on old extension cords this is the worst. Like have to throw my weight behind it to get the plug in

[rough bloom]

[rigid snow]

though i had to really try to remember if i ever had issues with them

[opaque wharf]

Well, that is the price of safety vs convenience everywhere lol

[gloomy charm]

Why I like the UK ones as don't have to have two at the same it's all based on the top pin

[rigid snow]

uk plugs are so painful to step on

[gloomy charm]

So you don't get stuck child protection flaps

[rigid snow]

therefore they suck

[opaque wharf]

I don't like that they are directional tho

[olive sable]

i cant find a wallsocket version, but this basicly

[rigid snow]

you had these as wall sockets

wtf

[olive sable]

its the same thing but without the ground pin

[gloomy charm]

Oh I've seen them in old places

[opaque wharf]

Ohh, the C plug

[rough bloom]

slip ring plug when

[rigid snow]

ohhh

[rough bloom]

don't those still exist
I've seen them around I think

[opaque wharf]

Never heard of those. What it is like?

[olive sable]

italians use one with ground pin in the middle

[rough bloom]

they don't exist

[gloomy charm]

France still the old style no ground

[rigid snow]

i would imagine these are easy to break

[gloomy charm]

Mainly for lights and stuff

[olive sable]

not really

[rough bloom]

seems possible to make a safe one but probably too expensive

[olive sable]

depends mostly on how new the building is

[opaque wharf]

Dang, that's scary

[opaque wharf]

But why would you want a slip ring tho?

[gloomy charm]

True but the plug it's self there are a lot of the just two pin with no ground. Wall sockets all have ground in new or replacements but no point in the contact ground if only two pins

[olive sable]

well, most of our devices dont use the ground pin

[rough bloom]

more directions

[rigid snow]

this is what my laptop charger did under its own weight

[olive sable]

there's a reason its swappable i guess

[gloomy charm]

The fact laptop chargers don't have ground "shudder"

[rough bloom]

was in context of UK plug being directional
Schuko and many others have 2 possible orientations at least
so clearly more is better

[rigid snow]

the actual reason is to ship one brick to all the countries and swap just the plug to the appropriate one

[olive sable]

but ye, like tvs, printers, chargers, most things dont use the ground pin

the only things i have that do use it are my PC, my 3D printer, the projector, and the AVR

oh, and my old TV

i dont think i single console i own in the game room uses a ground connection

[sage crag]

wrr

[olive sable]

launch model PS3 has a ground pin iirc, but i have a slim

[frozen hollow]

Ya mine looks like this with a giant uk end

[rigid snow]

i have a us plug for this from an ipad 2

they are still compatible

crazy

though the iphone bricks when they still included them looked like this, unique to the region

5V 1A that's how you know it's old

this is from an iphone 5

[obsidian mantle]

i actually found some shit to insert in a socket like this when i was little i remember it was metal and it fitted very well

why do children like to do this

[opaque wharf]

I have finally abolished the charging brick and opt for charging station

This bad boy can charge so many device at one

Including my laptop (65W)

[rigid snow]

look it's a 60w pd brick that came included why would i stop using it

them usb chargers don't grow on trees

[opaque wharf]

Child will be child lol

[rigid snow]

61w apple

[opaque wharf]

Yes, but imagine this. Single brick on the bag

[rigid snow]

ye same for me, single brick

when i need to charge the phone i plug it into the laptop

i stopped using powerbanks

[opaque wharf]

Now this is cursed

[rigid snow]

because of this

[opaque wharf]

Technically not wrong nor out of spec

But it just feels wrong

[rigid snow]

it's only cursed because tethering turns on automatically sometimes

because iphone and macbook

and phone starts to melt

[mossy fossil]

USB PD is Chaotic Good

[opaque wharf]

Nah, it is lawful good

Chaotic only to those who design it

For consumer, it is lawful good. But PROPERLY LABEL IT GOSH DANGIT

[rigid snow]

torchao is sick

[quick condor]

I run VAD in between, myself as well as a response gate on my gating model

[wary mauve]

wdym response gate / gating model?

[quick condor]

Its a small (8b) model that does thinking level/response checks. Simple "does the model need to respond" or how hard does it need to think"

And other stuff that is async at runtime

[frozen hollow]

I have wondered about those things

[wary mauve]

So you take in transcript from whats being said ( either from multiple or just one ) and then send that off to your model to see if there needs to be speech or?

I did want to create some sort of "thinking" engine that just runs and creates the thoughts of the agent, and "speech" is just aother model that takes those thoughts and replies to whats been said with said thoughts in context

[quick condor]

Yup just the last like 1-3 turns. It has 16k context but for the gates it only needs about 1k max

[wary mauve]

Not well versed in LLMs but trying to create a cool system

[quick condor]

Thinking is fully internal, speaker and listener are the main model. User never directly interacts with thinking model

[wary mauve]

Whats your flow like if i can ask?

as im still unsure about my flow but my flow rn is event based

USER_SPEAKING -> usually used for interruptios / silence checks, if no user_speaking then nobody is speaking so its silence, but can also be used for interruptig certain async tasks, i.e. cutting the ai off

USER_INPUT -> Fired when we fully transcribe something, most modules that listen to this just store the message but for the brain it uses that as chat history and knows that its ready to respod

[quick condor]

Thinking gate sets routing

[wary mauve]

Oh cool so it just gets fired after x turns and is added to the brain / main prompt or how is the data / resposne used

[wary mauve]

wdym by routing ( sorry if im poking a bunch of questions tryna learn all the cool tech / ways people make ai like agents, just tell me to stfu whenever)

as im happy with my project rn but feel like my User -> output is very 1 dimesional, rewriting my memory / rag stuff rn

but like I would like the model to "free think" and do things based on its own will, especially with tools

[frozen hollow]

I have wondered about that but I just don’t have the computing resources to build out the full system

[wary mauve]

I'm just using cloud for now, i know itll be slow but at least i can build

[olive sable]

we agreed on $710
with shipping a total of 682 euro
now i gotta make the rest of the assembly

[wary mauve]

ad its all openai spec so easy to localised

[trim hearth]

Can some make how create quality videogame at 2026 in Rpg Maker mv? Mean Tutorial

[olive sable]

there should be tutorial videos on youtube

[quick condor]

The whole system is hard to explain but essentially, deep thought is slow. At a minimum the thinking model returns a response 20% slower than the main model. With my set up there is light, standard and deep thinking. Light is just the main model, standard goes input > gate > main > think > main > output and deep is input > gate > main > think > main > think > main > output

[trim hearth]

But be alone is hard scrapped my project because it showed error two years ago.

[olive sable]

uh

[wary mauve]

So is this just deep thinking, and if so is it used to finalise the response or is it used in conjuction to provide context for the next turn? I should probably ask what ur making first, as Im thinking in the context of a "Neuro sama" like responding ai agent, where i want output to be quite fast so it feels seamless

Input (STT) -> Transcribe -> Main -> TTS -> Discord Voice

Where I essentially want some sort of "thought" box where the ai can take what was said, what it said, and create thoughts about itself, what it saw / tool results, the current situation etc

[quick condor]

Neuro can't really think, best that can be done is heavy prompt engineering. It's why their buckshot roulette gameplay is nails on a chalkboard to me

[wary mauve]

My system rn is built on prompt injections per module, so each module can return its own dynamic system prompt

[quick condor]

Thinking is too slow

[wary mauve]

Only reason I say thinking / thoughts are involved is because of a clip i saw where in the minecraft stream vedal showed off her "inner" thoughts of how she found someone mc char pretty which made me think there's some ongoign thoughts that provide some context into how the ai feels or what its currently thinking about

but its merely contextual

[quick condor]

Thinking has two things that it could be, you can have internal surface level thoughts and then there is actual reasoning

[wary mauve]

yeah my thinking is more surface level thoughts rather than reasoning like youd see in commercial llm uis

[opaque wharf]

Bro, why do you need it that badly

[olive sable]

cuz volumetric dispaly

Est. delivery Tue, Feb 17 - Tue, Mar 17

[opaque wharf]

Now you know how superbox feels

[olive sable]

i dont think it took a month for superbox

i dont really remember tho

[visual pawn]

imo that was more indicative of an LLM scratchpad than reasoning or chain-of-thought

but I mean it could be

but yeah, as said, I doubt it's indicative of a reasoning model

[opaque wharf]

Finally managed to borrow a decent and reliable 3d printer lol

[frozen hollow]

My printer is neither

[opaque wharf]

See Sam, this is how you use your friends

[frozen hollow]

What you making

[opaque wharf]

Bunch of rack

This stuff

[frozen hollow]

Lego

[opaque wharf]

Just instead of philips it would be hex

[olive sable]

All my friends are a lot more broke than i am

Doesnt work for me

[true hemlock]

[opaque wharf]

Well, at least having friends in different major will help you a lot in life

[olive sable]

ive been in the school for barely 4 months, i know like 3 classmates

[opaque wharf]

Bruh, by the 4th months I have known all of the people that enrolled the same year. But then again, that is because we have a long orientation period (almost 2 weeks)

[olive sable]

nah

here everyone keeps to themselves

in the 2nd semester there will be group projects tho

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1456314196655472843/SPOILER_NeuroCuteJogInHerRoom.gif

[opaque wharf]

Dang

[quick condor]

Apparently ddr3 proices are now starting to climb... Might be worth the headache to offload the 3tb of ecc ddr3 32gb dimms I have

[olive sable]

i wonder if there are 3D models available online of the lightcrafter 4500

would make my job a lot easier

i love reading htese forum posts where its stuff like

the defect rate is about 5% at present, for these bad DLPC350 control board, the temporary solution is: ....
However, the real cause of the incorrect Index output order was not found

truely inspires confidence in the hardware

[visual pawn]

do you actually need it modeled for a simulation?

[olive sable]

well, i mostly just need to know where the mounting screws need to go for my 3D printed stuff

[visual pawn]

were you going to have the projector spin with it or be stationary?

stationary I assume

[fleet jungle]

Did Vedal upgrade the portfolio viewer? I'm seeing a symbol value viewer I didn't see previously

[visual pawn]

yeah the position chart is new Im pretty sure

[olive sable]

the plan is stationary rn

but im open to changing it if things dont work out

the lightcrafter 4500 needs mini-HDMI

the Raspberry Pi 4 needs micro-HDMI

[sage crag]

i have a microhdmi cable

[olive sable]

why?

[sage crag]

raspberry pi 4

[olive sable]

checks out

[visual pawn]

I also have one

raspberry pi 4

[olive sable]

i know this thing is desinged to go from HDMI to either. but surely it could go from mini HDMI to micro-HDMI too?

just have the raspbery pi dangling from the other end

realistically i dont want the pi to stick out, ill need to get an actual cable

micro-hdmi to mini-hdmi is cursed tho

[fiery anchor]

hdmi is cursed

[olive sable]

normal HDMI would be fine if they labeled them better

wtf is "superspeed" supposed to mean?

High Speed HDMI    10.2Gbps
Premium High Speed HDMI    18Gbps
Ultra High Speed HDMI    48Gbps

what do you mean premium???

[rough bloom]

it go faster

[azure lynx]

the speed limits the max resolution and refresh rates

[idle dune]

https://youtu.be/m0hIx-PZZ4w?si=ZpZnv654xkChQCb5

@sick owl I remember you emantiokning older hardware is still usable yesterday

This card is holding up way better than I expected

Not amazing

But for 10 bucks

Well now 50 since a YouTube highlighted it

[olive sable]

you dont say

[opaque wharf]

Is not that hard to measure with a digital caliper

[olive sable]

i odnt have the device yet tho

HDMI 2.2 was released on June 25, 2025

[opaque wharf]

Ahh, then check the datasheet

[olive sable]

8K60, 4K240

thats crrazy

thats wild

[azure lynx]

you're going to be limited by the lowest speed of any part so there isn't any point in massively exceeding what the device itself can do

[olive sable]

just get a better device then

like ye i wont see 16K on my tv eventho my cable supports it

[opaque wharf]

https://www.ti.com/lit/ug/dlpu011f/dlpu011f.pdf?ts=1768925658374&ref_url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.ti.com%252Flit%252Fpdf%252Fdlpu011

Page 19, dimension

There are no free mounting hole left tho

[olive sable]

i can just use the holes that the mobo is mounted on

using bigger screws i guess

[opaque wharf]

True, add more spacer and plop your own mount

Those kind of spacer is stackable anyway

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

with DSC it can do 16K60
nothing even exists yet that would need that

[opaque wharf]

Btw Sam, did you put a desiccant on your filament?

[hard raptor]

i found the limits of my vec implementation

also i kinda used copilot to fix the bugs in the genLabelByIdx(idx: number): string method

[wary mauve]

wdym by scratchpad

[azure lynx]

like giving them the ability to write stuff to themself which isn't output to the TTS

[hard raptor]

frick

more than 1.5 gigs

[rigid snow]

what do you need the heap for at this point

just use your vec as the heap

[hard raptor]

fr

[true hemlock]

reminds me of the 560Ti i snatch for $3

slightly worse than that $10 card but ehhh

[quick condor]

Used copilot
Thats the first problem

[hard raptor]

bold of you to assume that a bug fix that actually worked is a problem

first read the full context before you make comments like that

the silly method in question btw

[olive sable]

no not really

[hard raptor]

i don't even remember what the old version looked like lmao

[quick condor]

5 messages isnt much to read. If copilot can answer it, then it was a simple problem that could have ben fixed faster almost any other way

[hard raptor]

yeah no shit.. but literally yapping about what i wanted was easier than a google search.. because google doesn't work that way

[cosmic sphinx]

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2412.18653

idk bro, im all in for the future of 1.58-bit models over 16-bit
this is an unexplored holy grail of LLMs at this point

[hard raptor]

i am rn looking for the old version tho

i sent a ss of that ages ago

old version

way worse

and buggy

[visual pawn]

PLA can survive without dessicant, but something like PVA basically requires it

depends on your environment ofc

[opaque wharf]

I was wondering if I could dry out the desiccant

[visual pawn]

term for any kind of output the LLM can write to and reference that isn't visible to the user

[visual pawn]

yes

depending on the type of dessicant ofc but

molecular sieve or silica gel can be heated up in an oven or microwave

[opaque wharf]

The usual silica gel

[visual pawn]

calcium chloride no

[olive sable]

should i get a pi4, or a pi5? or maybe something else entirely?

[visual pawn]

yeah silica gel oven or microwave works, although you should look up exact times and temperatures

[wary mauve]

ah okay so you're saying its just use for extra context? as in its prompted by the system itself and stored so the system could use it for some extra context?

[visual pawn]

if you bought the silica gel in bulk it should have instructions

[opaque wharf]

Orange Pi. Support is minimal but better design overall

[opaque wharf]

I do not

This is my friends printer and the silica comes with it. The Bambu AMS

[visual pawn]

yes, so solving the problem of how an LLM can't reference anything that isn't written. So older setups couldn't play Hangman because they couldn't "remember" what the word they came up with and was hiding from the user was

[visual pawn]

ah, AMS and not AMS Lite right? so the filament spools are enclosed?

[opaque wharf]

Yeps

[visual pawn]

I...think there's a hygrometer in there?

or it's just a common mod, I'm not sure, I have a modded AMS Lite

[opaque wharf]

There is. And I know for a fact that it is full already

[wary mauve]

cool beans ty

[opaque wharf]

The silica gel that is

[nocturne olive]

Meanwhile Q4 GGUF

[visual pawn]

so some silica gel has a color thing where they start off orange and once they have too much moisture they turn green

otherwise, you may have to go off the hygrometer; as long as you're under 50% RH I think you're fine for PLA for long term

although even lower can be better

I like to keep it at 35% or lower

[opaque wharf]

That's the thing, it is always above 60% RH here

[visual pawn]

oh, huh

even inside the AMS?

[olive sable]

[opaque wharf]

Yeps. That is why I know the silica is full. My friend has not used it for a while

[visual pawn]

Im less comfortable about storing TPU at higher humidity

way less

[opaque wharf]

Oh, TPU is an entirely different beast

[visual pawn]

and frankly TPU can already be a big pain to print, so I do not want to add any bit more difficulty

[visual pawn]

yeah, oven/microwave then

[opaque wharf]

Thanks btw, it's good to know that I can microwave it

[visual pawn]

you gotta do it in bursts

or else it gets way too hot way too fast

[opaque wharf]

Ahhh, got it. Got any step by step that you usually do?

[visual pawn]

I usually follow whatever instructions on the packaging of the bulk container I have

I don't remember them off the top of my head, I'm not home atm

[opaque wharf]

I see, alright thanks

[visual pawn]

I think 30s at a time?

[opaque wharf]

30s at full blast?

[visual pawn]

depending on wattage

[opaque wharf]

I think mine is around 1000. I don't use microwave that often lmao

[visual pawn]

you'll want a safe container to microwave it in

[opaque wharf]

I do have a microwave safe glass container

[visual pawn]

ok apparently it varies greatly depending on the specific silica gel

[azure lynx]

i use a filament dryer. you can get them kinda cheap.

[visual pawn]

you can also try an oven

it takes longer but is safer

and less risk of the silica gel melting your container

[opaque wharf]

Hmmm, oven it is. What's the temp and time?

[visual pawn]

like 170F to 200F for a few hours

but I'd check on it frequently

at least while you're unsure about it

or uhh, under 100C

[opaque wharf]

Got it thanks. Gonna DIY some oven using the printer heated bed lol

[azure lynx]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DJNXYDB7 <= this is designed for drying filament and doesn't get plastics in your food preparing stuff coz it's specially made for it

[visual pawn]

yeah that's more for getting the filament dry though

rather than the silica gel

[opaque wharf]

Nah, I already know how to dry the filament. This is the desiccant I am talking about

[azure lynx]

put it somewhere hot without a bag for a long time then bag it while it's kinda hot.

[visual pawn]

oh, this is the one I have

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, that's the oven thingies

[visual pawn]

10m at defrost in microwave or 0.5 to 2 hours at 250F in oven

[opaque wharf]

Hmmm, around 115 C

That would be a problem

[visual pawn]

I'd start on the low end anyways

better you don't heat it enough than too much

[olive sable]

nah, it appears that SBC HDMI devices are bad for running 120hz RGB888 912x1140 at precise speeds
i cant really have it stutter too much

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, I'll also check if the heated bed can reach that temp lol

If not, I'll figure out a ways a usual

[opaque wharf]

You don't say? Bruh, many SBC don't even have a gpu

But some orange pi does have gpu tho

[visual pawn]

the A1 can hit 100C; I imagine the other Bambu ones can too

[opaque wharf]

Noice, thanks a lot

[visual pawn]

oh, the A1 mini only reaches 80C

but if your friend had a full AMS Im guessing they don't have an A1 mini

[opaque wharf]

P1S

I am currently drying a filament on the bed right now

[visual pawn]

yeah probably 100C, given that it needs to be able to print ABS

[rigid snow]

infinite tps

openrouter btw

why is the provider not banned

[olive sable]

but will it do 120fps footage reliably?

damn the 5 max is 200 bucks

[opaque wharf]

Just get a mini pc if you don't need the gpio lol

Also @rigid snow https://makerworld.com/models/2243965?appSharePlatform=copy

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

the 5 8gb ram model is only 160

the 16gb one is 200

[olive sable]

i think id need to gpio for the motor controller

[azure lynx]

how much do you need the extra memory on the device? i imagine it would mostly run the display application which communicated with the actual brains somewhere else anyway

[spark vortex]

I made a notetaking canvas app in 4 hours because i told my friend about how easy it is and he told me "you're thinking like a user or a tester"

[olive sable]

i odnt really need it at all lmao

[spark vortex]

and yes, the grid is infinite

and pannable and zoomable

[olive sable]

the assumption is its gonna read video files form an sd card and ouptut it to the hdmi

thats all i need

[quick condor]

And passed round 3 in like 15 minutes... All that's left is the final interview with the datacenter manager for the site

[olive sable]

if i feel fancy i might make it proceduraly choose what file to play, like an animation

[azure lynx]

not even going to generate the image dynamically? even easier then.

[opaque wharf]

Motor control can be achieved with external MCU unless you need extreme clock sync

[olive sable]

the lightcrafter 4500 has its own syncing stuff

i was assumign id jsut hook it up to a potentiometer or whatever to get the current rotation of the helix

[opaque wharf]

Then you're good to go

USB is fast enough anyway for most use cases (even CNC)

But make sure the MCU is connecting directly via USB, not through a UART

[olive sable]

i odnt think a mini pc is cheaper actually

[opaque wharf]

Indeed they aren't lol

But you need the capability, and a mini pc has a certain guarantee. For Orange Pi, I think you need to look into it a bit more

[olive sable]

it seems like mini pcs are more expensive actually

i think the orange pi will be fine

[azure lynx]

you probably don't need the latest raspberry pi. could even get an older 4GB one for like $80

[visual pawn]

don't you need a special potentiometer for that?

[opaque wharf]

Yeah, but driving a 120Hz display could be an issue. Iirc, pi 4 can only drive 4K 60Hz?

[visual pawn]

for turning indefinitely

[opaque wharf]

I don't think the motor could turn indefinitely

[visual pawn]

an encoder would probably be more traditional, but Im not sure exactly how much precision you'll need

[olive sable]

hall efect sensor shuld be fine

[opaque wharf]

Like the AS5600

[olive sable]

probably fine ye

[azure lynx]

if you have the RPM coz know how often it rotates one complete turn then you can just use that to give you pretty good accuracy, coz you can assume it's rotating at a constant rate.

so hall effect would be fine

[opaque wharf]

That only has 12-bit res tho. So you can only move 360°/(2^12)

Add some filter to the two LSB and it is even bigger (the minimum detectable angle)

[azure lynx]

even terrible one. coz you do the actual position by looking at the percentage of time you are through the rotation, not by reading a (potentially noisy) position reading.

[hard raptor]

don't you just love verbosity because of safety features

i found a very silly bug

it can't convert from __svec for some reason.
like...

no i need to rephrase that apparently

it refuses to overwrite the top level vector in a nested vector cluster if the top level isn't stored as __ivec

i have no idea why tho

[idle dune]

Hey for 10 bucks beggars can’t be choosers.

[hard raptor]

    public fromString(str: string): this {
        if (!(
            str.startsWith('__vec') ||
            str.startsWith('__svec') ||
            str.startsWith('__uvec') ||
            str.startsWith('__suvec') ||
            str.startsWith('__ivec')
        )) return this;
        /** */
        let oUnsafe: boolean = false;
        let oStatic: boolean = false;

        if (this._unsafe === true) oUnsafe = true;
        if (this._static === true) oStatic = true;

        /** */
        let type: VecTypes = VecTypes.VEC;
        let arrStr: string = '';
        let arr: T[] = [];

        /** */
        this.readonly(false);
        this.allowUnsafe(true);
        if (str.startsWith('__vec')) type = VecTypes.VEC;
        if (str.startsWith('__svec')) type = VecTypes.SVEC;
        if (str.startsWith('__uvec')) type = VecTypes.UVEC;
        if (str.startsWith('__suvec')) type = VecTypes.SUVEC;
        if (str.startsWith('__ivec')) type = VecTypes.IVEC;
        arrStr = str.replace(type, '');
        arr = JSON.parse(arrStr);

        this.fromArray(arr);

        if (type === VecTypes.VEC) {
            this.readonly(false);
            this.allowUnsafe(false);
        }
        else if (type === VecTypes.UVEC) {
            this.allowUnsafe(true);
            this.static(false);
        }
        else if (type === VecTypes.SVEC) {
            this.allowUnsafe(false);
            this.static(true);
        }
        else if (type === VecTypes.SUVEC) {
            this.allowUnsafe(true);
            this.static(true);
        }
        else if (type === VecTypes.IVEC) {
            this.readonly(oStatic);
            this.allowUnsafe(oUnsafe);
        }
        else { return this; }

        return this;
    }

that's the fromString method....

which does work

but

[olive sable]

its supposed to spin at 900rpm. how acuratly i can make a motor do that is another thing tho

[hard raptor]

if after importing with that.. if i then do .readonly(false) which should make it mutable... it still isn't..

[olive sable]

15rps, with 2880hz, thats 192hz per rotation

[hard raptor]

but if i import it as an ivec then make it immutable.. and then only when needed make it mutable just to change 1 thing and make it immutable then it does work

[hard raptor]

here you can see that exact scenario working btw

and then not working after telling the thing to not export the top level as ivec

the first version literally never had this problem

[hard raptor]

or maybe it did but i never tested it by doing anything else than exporting top level as ivec before.. idk

exporting it as a normal vec also not works

it literally only works when i tell the thing to adopt the properties of the vector instance it is imported into...

IT'S LITERALLY 2 FRICKING BOOLEANS

again.. these are the vector types

export enum VecTypes {
    /**
     * Standard Vector
     */
    VEC = '__vec',

    /**
     * Vector with unsafe operations
     */
    UVEC = '__uvec',

    /**
     * Readonly Vector
     */
    SVEC = '__svec',

    /**
     * Readonly Vector with unsafe operations
     */
    SUVEC = '__suvec',

    /**
     * Inherit Parent Vector
     */
    IVEC = '__ivec',
}

the thing is.. even if i did set the Vec instance to readonly.. or to not allow unsafe operations or both... the fromString method bypasses that

and to make it even sillier

the inner vectors their properties ARE properly adopted

it literally only affects the top level

btw this line:

__uvec["Test DB","kvs_test2_"] __uvec["Test DB","kvs_test_"]

is the output of this

console.log(DB_META_VALUES.toString(), DB_META.get('y'));

aka
it first outputs the mutated VecString in the sub vector... and then it fetches that same string from the parent

[olive sable]

im so glad i dont have to deal with all that

idk why you are even in a situation where you have to turn a string into a vec

[hard raptor]

storage

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

just store it as a vec

[rigid snow]

strings are very different to vectors

[hard raptor]

json doesn't have those?

[olive sable]

jason might want to get those then

[hard raptor]

the strings are basically just arrays with a prefix that tells the class what properties it should have

[olive sable]

smh, jason is a bum

if you want an actual answer, i have no clue

[hard raptor]

because there physically isn't an answer... it's probably some wierd niche obscure bug in the runtime if imma be honest

[olive sable]

i was originally gonna get the base model, but the ultra has a hdmi input too.
i wanted to get the 4gb one too, but those don't seem to be available.
no worries tho cuz the 8GB one has this massive sale of $0

[mossy fossil]

lol

[hard raptor]

i now made it also work in node.js... still same problem

doubt bun will be any different tbh

bun also not works

i suppose this isn't the end of the world

but.. it certainly is wierd

[sick owl]

Please be right please be right please be right please be right

Nothing would make me happier than a deluge of slop killing off Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok

[frozen hollow]

Who is that

[sick owl]

Famous ecnonomist and former greek finance minister who pulled the country back from the brink

Also the designer of TF2s economy

[frozen hollow]

That’s all you had to say

[sick owl]

The original designer anyway

He's not consulting with Valve anymore which is probably part of the reason it suddenly went tits up in the last year or two

[obsidian mantle]

"we must learn to doubt everything we see and hear"
Isnt that fundamental principle of entire life that existed in all times

Is it the first time he saw misinformation?

[sick owl]

It was the case for a while that video evidence was among the highest standards of proof

That's what he's getting at

[obsidian mantle]

Oh makes sense

[sick owl]

The level of skepticism now required would have been unhealthy in prior eras basically

[obsidian mantle]

This is so weird

I wonder how he got into it

[sick owl]

https://archive.is/1pXbj

Here's a bit about it

Yanis isn't the only example

[obsidian mantle]

Fuck i get infinite "one more step" captcha with vpn and its inaccessible without it

[fiery anchor]

oh i remember that, fun times.

[obsidian mantle]

Oh nice Swiss vpn worked

[frozen hollow]

There are tons of videos of like Nigel farage investment scamming on YouTube’s adverts

As in deepfakes

[obsidian mantle]

So they actually hire economists now

[olive sable]

with the lightcrafter 4500

we could in theory

do triangle

at 4225hz

instead of my computer screen limiting it to 180hz

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

4225hz only works for shit that is pre-rendered tho

for live rendered stuff we're limited to 2880hz

[amber fractal]

bwa

I'm assuming it is because of processing or?

[olive sable]

4225hz only works by using the internal ram. and there is only enough internal ram for 48 images
at 4225hz that doesnt go a long way

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

hdmi is not fast enough to do more than that

or well, this implementation of it isnt

120hz at 24bit = 2880hz 1 bit

[amber fractal]

are we ram limited or DLP limited

[fiery anchor]

4225hz.... that's an interval of 0,2368 ms. Not a lot of time.

[olive sable]

more like chipset limited

[olive sable]

the DMD is able to do it jsut fine, with time to spare even cuz that is with extra time included to let the mirrors setle a bit

its mainly the input chipset stuff

[sage crag]

i should get one of these for osu

[amber fractal]

high refresh rate lazer display

[sage crag]

240hz to 2880hz is probably a noticeable jump

[hoary patio]

so mirrors are fine,
it’s just the human-facing IO that can’t keep up 😄

[olive sable]

its 912x1140 pixels

150 lumens

[sick owl]

Least polluted LAN

[tender river]

about as much as 60 to 75hz

actually 120hz to 240hz is a closer comparison

[olive sable]

DLPLCRC900EVM has a DP port input allowing it to do 240hz24bit, so 5760hz 1bit
was slightly out of the budget tho

[olive sable]

as long as you dont mind 1bit colour 1 bit white????

monochrome?

whats the term

[amber fractal]

Part of me wonders in what order "pixels" are even drawn in. I feel like one would start in the center to reduce the rotational offset that the mirror has while rotating.

[amber fractal]

binary display

[olive sable]

we have a full mirror per pixel coming out of the projector
so it should all happen at the same time

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

i wonder if i could overclock it

[amber fractal]

You'd be better off building a new board for it

[olive sable]

sounds expensive

[sick owl]

No way

[olive sable]

the DMD itself can do 4225hz, its jsut the hdmi input mode we want to use thats limited to 2880

so i guess a new board would help

i just already spent 900 bucks on this so i dont realyl want to spend more

i also need to pay for opensauce still

[amber fractal]

For stuff like this, I think some amount is being paid for components. But I think a lot more is being paid for the assembly and brand name.

but I doubt one can just obtain the raw compoents

[sage crag]

the jump from 60 to 75 is less noticeable than the jump from 120 to 240, for me

120 doesnt look that much better than 60 to my eyes

in terms of motion clarity i guess

like reading text while scrollimg

[tender river]

i use 144 on my second monitor

[olive sable]

well. for voxon i checked how much their shit cost
they only make profit cuz they buy stuff in bulk, for a consumer making one of their devices its very easy to end up going higher than their $6800
my math was at like 7000$ if i got some decently bright leds, with driver boards capable of 7400hz like their device does

[tender river]

and it feels just fine

60hz and i die though

cursor super choppy

[amber fractal]

I still somewhat get dizzy when I have to use the 165hz display on my laptop, just used to 60hz all of the time.

[sage crag]

i had a 144hz monitor

[tender river]

is it the one you still have

[sage crag]

mo

me monitor 240hz

[olive sable]

my pc is 180hz on all dispalys, and my laptop is 144hz
even my phone is 90hz
i dont think theres a single device i daily drive thats still on 60hz

[tender river]

no the

[sage crag]

and i have a 60hz second monitor

[olive sable]

even my tablet is 144hz

[sage crag]

that i cant use

[tender river]

ye that

[sage crag]

m

it was 2160p led 144hz

i swapped it for 1080p lcd 240hz

[olive sable]

isnt led better than lcd?

this purely for osu?

[sage crag]

usually

[sick owl]

60hz is fine but I'd never buy 60hz in this day and age

[tender river]

mine is

[sage crag]

not just that

[tender river]

1080p 27" 144hz

[sick owl]

I think the only 60hz device I still use is my Steam Deck

[sage crag]

its because i dont really value picture quality

i care more about motion clarity

[opaque sigil]

time to get one of those high hz oleds

[sage crag]

and my monitor has good timings so it doesnt ghost at all

[sage crag]

funny, i cant afford it

[sick owl]

If motion clarity is the goal you'd be better off waiting for GSYNC Pulsar

[tender river]

rapid movement does feel smoother on 240hz but 144hz is already at a level where i dont really care

[opaque sigil]

same

[sick owl]

Zero sample and hold judder/blur, which is something OLEDs are very susceptible to below 240hz

[sage crag]

i actually swapped my monitor physically with a relative

[opaque sigil]

i was trying to remember the name of that but couldn't

[sick owl]

I love my OLED but if I was in it purely for motion clarity I'd 100% go for Gsync Pulsar

[sage crag]

its super noticeable for me unfortunately

[olive sable]

the projector int he game room is 4K60hz,
can do 120hz in 1080p tho so idk if that counts

[sick owl]

You're the exact target demographic for gsync pulsar

[sage crag]

i cant stand looking at the time between frame updates

[sick owl]

Kinda funny that we went from rolling scan with CRTs to sample and hold and now we're going back to rolling scan again with pulsar

[sage crag]

especially with the blatant irregularity thats clear even at 240hz

[sick owl]

That's what makes the new pulsar LCDs so great, they use a rolling scan like CRT displays

You get motion clarity close to 1000hz on a sample and hold display at 60hz with pulsar

[sage crag]

[tender river]

i guess it helps that i dont scroll that much, most of the jarringness of 60hz comes from cursor movement for me

[sage crag]

60hz explod

[olive sable]

high hz oled still low hz
get DLP projector
the expensive ones ($3500) can do 32Khz 1 bit and 10Khz grayscale
so like 3Khz colour probably

[sage crag]

i cant even use 60hz in the terminal

everything feels delayed

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1452612577145262183/3DNeuroCutenessAmbushWithBeautifulScenery.gif

[sick owl]

I'm sensitive to 60hz sample and hold when first going back to it but I adjust over time

[olive sable]

i could never go lower than 60hz in this day and age

[tender river]

ye same i was wary of going back to 60hz for my linux phone but i got used to it

[sage crag]

my phone is 120hz and my monitor is 240hz, so i dont really interact with 60hz displays

ive used it for so long that 60hz just gives me a headache

[olive sable]

60hz is just at borderline acceptable, but im spoiled and like more

[sick owl]

Tbh if I solely played games I'd happily drive a Gsync pulsar display at 60hz over my OLED with graphical compromise to reach 240hz

Its just straight up better than sample and hold in that regard

[olive sable]

sometimes i get 45hz in vr. its painful

all vrchats fault tho

[sage crag]

it feels like when youre in a room and you can see that the light takes AC but has a diode in it so its flickering at like 50hz

[fiery anchor]

already planing on buying the 57'' 240hz G9 as the next monitor. would fit perfectly between my speakers, and height would be ideal as well. dual 4k@240Hz will be a pain to drive though.

[sick owl]

I thought ASW more or less solved frame drops in VR these days

[sage crag]

it gives me a headache even though i cant see it if im tired

it shows up on camera really clearly too

ruins video

[olive sable]

idk

its still noticable to me

eventho the rift should technically be fine

welp

i should sleep

i have my last exam tomorrow

[amber fractal]

go eep

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

or like, if you wave your hand

and it looks like a 50fps video

instead of a hand wave

the lights in my home do it since theyre LED

[olive sable]

bwaa

[tender river]

konii eyes have

high refresh rate

[sage crag]

if i shake my hand in a certain way i can make it look like its teleporting between two states

[tender river]

[sick owl]

I hate that shit

[sage crag]

tradeoff for 240p

[olive sable]

konii eyes have at least 51hz

[opaque sigil]

guess i'm lucky, i have a 75hz display next to my 240hz one and it's never really bothered me

[sick owl]

The way it makes your real life environment look like its running at a low framerate

Just ew

[sage crag]

ye

its distracting

i tend to prefer incandescent bulbs to be honest

but led are so energy efficient

i cant not use them

well, i think this problem is nearly solved if you get good led lights

mine are cheap though

[azure lynx]

i use good LEDs and don't have any flicker.

[olive sable]

nearly everytihg in my house is halogen lights i think

[sick owl]

I don't have that issue with the eco LEDs I use

Paradoxically its the expensive bright ones at my grandparents house that have it

[sage crag]

ye, the thing about led is that theyre obviously diodes so they only produce light when the current is going in one direction, and not the other, which for ac means theyre off for half the cycle

im not sure what compensation good ones do for it

[amber fractal]

mabe convert to DC

[olive sable]

id guess they just go both ways with diodes to make ac to dc rectifier

[azure lynx]

They typically use a rectifier.

[sage crag]

that makes sense i guess

[azure lynx]

so it's on for both halves

[sage crag]

still feels like you'd get some dimming

[azure lynx]

and a capacitor to smooth it.

it's across mains AC. it depends on the capacitor and you can do more smoothing too with more circutry

[sage crag]

if it were noticeable, it'd only be at low brightness i guess

since the relative difference is higher there

[azure lynx]

in high speed video you can notice it, but it's not as bad as some incandescent

[sage crag]

thats true

i like sunlight

[azure lynx]

i've got some special LEDs with drivers that give a constant level for high speed camera stuff.

[sage crag]

shame the sun is only awake for 6 hours every day

im awake for a lot more

[opaque wharf]

I also use LED, but a proper one with a driver so it doesn't flicker even on camera

Change your light

[olive sable]

Ive heard some houses have dc wiring for lights

[sage crag]

expensive

[olive sable]

And 1 central converter

[sage crag]

why would i improve my life it costs money

[azure lynx]

very good lights cost more. goodish lights are just a matter of finding some good bulbs.

[sage crag]

if its overwhelming stimulus i just close my eyes

[olive sable]

I dont like how blue some leds are anyways

[amber fractal]

that's new to me, I can see it if you're already throwing Ethernet and other data cables.

[olive sable]

Ill keep to my yellow halogen

[sage crag]

my display is calibrated to

3600K

[opaque wharf]

I am making exactly that lol

[olive sable]

Its not common, but it exists

[sage crag]

not sure what it is on my phone

i dont like blue light except for skylight usually

[azure lynx]

sounds like they have power supplys embedded in the walls. which will fail at a random time to maximize inconvenience.

[sage crag]

wrr

[opaque wharf]

I wanted to have a full control of the light, so a buck/boost current control that I can adjust via pwm for the whole house

[olive sable]

My phone and displays should be hdr or whatever.
So neutral colour temp i guess???

[amber fractal]

we should grab konii one of those RG displays they used to use before blue LEDs were invented

[sage crag]

i'd replace all of my lights with sodium lamps but im worried i'd forget the colour blue

[sage crag]

ye

[olive sable]

Nah, in the garage or utility room. 1 central big brick of ac to dc

[sage crag]

when i have the light on, the colour blue is black

its like how deep sea fish are red as a form of camoflauge

[sage crag]

well, monochrome

from black to white

[olive sable]

Camoflauged red from the blue see

dumb fish

[azure lynx]

just have a blue light switch as well?

[amber fractal]

[sage crag]

just do anything

world hunger switch

its on my wall

[olive sable]

Solving world hunger would make ram prices worse tho

Dont do it

[azure lynx]

and you're leaving it on....

[sage crag]

solving world hunger would also put a lot of people out of jobs

at least they wouldnt go hungry i guess

[olive sable]

Im already jobless

[sage crag]

we know.

[azure lynx]

but none of the jobless would be hungry

[olive sable]

They cant steal what i dont have

[azure lynx]

so that's ok

[sage crag]

they may be thirsty or have no shelter

or have environmental pressures

[amber fractal]

This reminds me of when my parents for the new room decided to make every outlet in an already dense formation one of those usb embedded ones.

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

konii always so mean

[azure lynx]

why did you get the stupid switch installed?

[sage crag]

is that a switch for stupidity or a switch that is stupid

[olive sable]

Both

[sage crag]

[azure lynx]

no need to switch for stupidity

[olive sable]

The switch being on made the switch itself stupid

[olive sable]

Rude

[opaque wharf]

Stupid switch

[olive sable]

Wtf

[olive sable]

Do we have any evidence of konii being nice to someone?

Does elvy count?

[tender river]

yes

[olive sable]

Ye sure why not

[hard delta]

what do you mean

konii is always nice

[olive sable]

I feel like she makes fun of me every chance she gets

Its not like she actually insults me or anything tho

[next snow]

Hi guys

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

camuel manuel danuel

tremble before me

i am the mighty wrrrr wrr

i have come to steal all that you hold dear and set it ablaze

quiver with fear, coward, for your time of reckoning shall come

[olive sable]

Imma sleep instead

[hard delta]

[next snow]

I feel that XD

[sage crag]

lack evidence

[tender river]

corrupt court

[sage crag]

me not court or corrupt

me wrrrr and wrr

[tender river]

me court

and corrupt

can give me money

[sage crag]

sound more like

charity

[tender river]

can give me money to

potentially* influence my judgement of you

*terms and conditions apply

[sage crag]

charitable donation

tax exempt

[tender river]

tax writeoff

sound useful for people who have

taxable income

[rigid snow]

claude 4.5 opus is so good

shame it's only actually great if compared to other llms and is still shit and costs a fortune to infer

[real sierra]

today on unity dumb

[opaque sigil]

mfw opus 4.5 is basically free compared to gpt 5.2 pro

[opaque sigil]

version mismatch?

[real sierra]

i installed unity like a week ago

i actually dont think this one is unity's fault tho

cuz this function used to show up

but its just decided it no longer exists i guess

[amber fractal]

is it only a class function (surely not)

[azure lynx]

coz you pass an object of the same type into it, it looks like a class function

[amber fractal]

Yeah I'm just not discounting the API being stupid

[real sierra]

colliders collide with other colliders

one is provided via argument

the other by the calling instance

[rigid snow]

seems about right

[azure lynx]

what does it return?

[real sierra]

tho maybe it is a weird class func or something

i thought this was an event at first

but now im not sure

[azure lynx]

coz it could return what that thing collided with

[unkempt citrus]

could just be an LSP issue

[real sierra]

it might be a weird under-the-head implementation function

and not actually part of the interface

but am i really meant to believe that colliders have to check every frame for collisions?

and that there's no event for this?

[opaque sigil]

isn't that what the function is for

[real sierra]

thats what i thought

but its not there as i've shown

so

[azure lynx]

you can check at any point, so it shouldn't force you to check at a particular point in the processing

[opaque sigil]

cause Collision2D has pretty much no functions attached to it according to the docs

[real sierra]

yeah thats just a container object that describes the collision i think

its not really meant to do much

[azure lynx]

The collisions details are returned by MonoBehaviour.OnCollisionEnter2D, MonoBehaviour.OnCollisionStay2D and MonoBehaviour.OnCollisionExit2D callbacks. It details which Collider2D and Rigidbody2D pairs are involved in the collision as well as contact points where the Collider2D meet. Note: During the OnCollisionExit2D event, there are no contacts to be retrieved.

so you need to set up the collision event handler?

[real sierra]

im telling you MonoBehaviour.OnCollisionEnter2D does not exist

[opaque sigil]

https://docs.unity3d.com/6000.3/Documentation/ScriptReference/MonoBehaviour.OnCollisionEnter2D.html what's this then

[real sierra]

a lie?

idk

wait

does collider2d not inherit monobehaviour

what is happening here

[azure lynx]

do either of the examples work?

[opaque sigil]

collider2d is just the event payload you get when a collision occurs i guess

wait

no that's collision2d

[real sierra]

the more i play with it the more confused i get

it doesnteven make sense that monobehaviours have that function

[azure lynx]

a collider is something which can have a collision

[real sierra]

monobehaviours dont inherently have rigidbodies or colliders

how can a monobehavour collide with something aaah

that makes zero sense

[opaque sigil]

isn't monobehaviour attached to an object

which can collide with other objects

[real sierra]

"object" in unity is a very loose term

[azure lynx]

the thing with that behavior does it

[real sierra]

a unity object, without any modifications, is closer to a folder than what you think of as an object

the only thing it inherently has is a 3d position and a place in the game hierarchy

it doesn't have physics, colliders, or even a sprite

[amber fractal]

contains nothing, exists

[azure lynx]

have you read the example on the page from #programming message ?

[real sierra]

it still makes no sense to me why that function would be part of monobehaviour

actually just seems like bad module practice to me

but ok

that seems to be how its done

[azure lynx]

it's inheriting "behavior" so it becomes a "thing which behaves in a way" instead of just an empty container?

[tender river]

it doesnt

unity has different base types

some builtins arent monobehaviours

[real sierra]

collider2d only inherits behaviour

not monobehaviour

and the collision functions are naturally in monobehaviour because

[amber fractal]

I feel like monobehavior contains every state that the engine controls itself. Just my running theory from this thread.

[azure lynx]

unity is weird. there's probably a tutorial somewhere which explains why they do it a certain way

[tender river]

monobehaviours have a bunch of lifecycle and update method

its not very clean but it works

[real sierra]

its yucky though and makes little sense for compartmentalization

[tender river]

it does make sense

[real sierra]

nothing without a rigidbody or collider will ever need to receive collision events