programming

[rigid snow]

the shit they have in their closets is horrifying

random ass routers switches and firewalls, random cables which are all too long everywhere

everything is powered on

[obsidian mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/voron-cable-management-gif-22392132

[rigid snow]

and does something

[opaque wharf]

The real database is the one we have on the brain

[rigid snow]

we spent 20 minutes untangling one cable to connect the pc

and 20 minutes before that to find a cable that isn't connected to anything and is long enough

they just told us "yeah there's a couple unused ones you'll find it"

actual tens of kilograms of cat6

not exaggerating

[obsidian mantle]

Attempt to have a nap failed even thought im sleepy. I guess ill just comtinue working.
Maybe i should grab an energy drink

[rigid snow]

green tea

[frozen hollow]

Coffee

[obsidian mantle]

I have black tea

[obsidian mantle]

In teabags

[rigid snow]

black has less caffeine

way less

[obsidian mantle]

Yeah
Its just the weather

Stupid winter makes the body want to hibernate

Its too long

[visual pawn]

the traditional assumption is that black tea has more caffeine than green

but from what I understand reality is a lot more complicated

[rigid snow]

from what i understand it's because it doesn't have as much of the compound that opposes the effect of caffeine

and in my experience green tea just works better

[visual pawn]

I find black tea to work far better but it's often down to the individual grower/brand/etc

and at least with my experience growing up asian, green tea was given as the "oh I shouldn't have any caffeine" tea

[rigid snow]

i'm far from a tea expert

[rigid snow]

but it definitely does... at least i think..

[visual pawn]

oh yeah it does

it's just perception that it has less in my personal experience

but from doing research, the answer is you really can't use a rule of thumb like that

[obsidian mantle]

yeah there probably is some "black buddha ripper" black tea that has x10 more caffeine than average green tea

[frozen hollow]

Black Buddha ripper

[obsidian mantle]

stupid vs doesnt understand parenthesis

[sage crag]

832, 100

coincidence?

[sage crag]

its regex

4(

4\(

[rigid snow]

what do the numbers mean

[sage crag]

404, 505, 100

[obsidian mantle]

[sage crag]

832

[olive sable]

832?

i found the DLPLCR5500EVM, which is less expensive that the thing form before

except that the thing from before was available on ebay for a lot less than even this

[lament igloo]

was figuring out why svr3 youtube captions are getting phased out
this is why

youtube downloaders are fucked again

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1061113840852533339/1452612577145262183/3DNeuroCutenessAmbushWithBeautifulScenery.gif

promot

[flint dome]

somehow by some sheer black magic they will rise from the ashes again

[sage crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1425864339994312804.gif?size=160&name=ElvynNya&lossless=true

[olive sable]

[flint dome]

i would like some advice
we're learning java this semester, and i have zero experience with it or android

how hard is android framework to learn (we have been given a 3 month timeline to build a simple project on anything java related)

[visual pawn]

what's your prior experience?

in software development in general

[flint dome]

im more of an embedded guy mainly in c but have done some minor python in ai/ml

due to growing up doing arduinos and stuff

[warped narwhal]

You'll be fine, just remember that everything is an object, and that args are passed by reference by value, so primitives are copied, but objects are referenced, but assigning to the reference will overwrite the reference without affecting the original

Aka, passing a class as an argument is like passing a pointer in C

[flint dome]

https://tenor.com/view/bang-dream-bandori-mygo-its-mygo-anon-gif-5679681769722071960

[olive sable]

damn

hermitcraft started copying happy birthday shiro

they do happy birthday etho

[opaque wharf]

Just use the Android IDE and it's easy

[sick owl]

Not kliksphillip letting his cat play with ram

That's my life savings dude

[olive sable]

i think ram is pretty resiliant to being dropped

[opaque wharf]

Happy birthday Sam

[olive sable]

not my birthday

[opaque wharf]

I decided that it is now

[olive sable]

[sick owl]

Its not resilient to fur

My dog static shocks me when I touch him sometimes

[dusky jackal]

Brother, I really really really want to make a joke but I won’t.

[sick owl]

[dusky jackal]

Umm something about thunder strikes idk

The sky is pretty funny

[sick owl]

Oh I get ya

https://i.redd.it/rp3s9tbvq3eg1.gif

[visual pawn]

place

this sure is a place

[dusky jackal]

The sky is also a place.

[midnight sigil]

oh my joke on that got automodded

welp

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

I guess mods don't want twitch con tomfooleries

[olive sable]

[midnight sigil]

:MONKAS:

[warped narwhal]

Happy birthday sam

[olive sable]

[sick owl]

Its grim how much crap is harvesting data from my roommates phones

They were shocked when I showed them the pihole graph

Tbf I bet half of it is probably temu

I have logging turned off for people's privacy but that's a real offender and its insanely popular with students here for some reason

[warm zealot]

41.3% blocked is crazy what

[sick owl]

It's only ads, trackers, and background data harvesters too

[visual pawn]

hey, sometimes it's random shit like people who try to find public Minecraft servers to tell them to use a whitelist

well, I guess it wouldn't necessarily be a DNS query then

[sick owl]

https://vxtwitter.com/OpenAI/status/2012223373489614951

OpenAI (@OpenAI)

In the coming weeks, we plan to start testing ads in ChatGPT free and Go tiers.

We’re sharing our principles early on how we’ll approach ads–guided by putting user trust and transparency first as we work to make AI accessible to everyone.

What matters most:
- Responses in ChatGPT will not be influenced by ads.

- Ads are always separate and clearly labeled.

- Your conversations are private from advertisers.

- Plus, Pro, Business, and Enterprise tiers will not have ads.

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jan 16, 2026, 6:00 PM

Somehow missed this

Was always coming sooner or later wasn't it

[nocturne olive]

Meanwhile us adblock users

[warm zealot]

guys trust we can make a profit guys trust we arent a bubble guys invest everything into us

[nocturne olive]

Also funny how they still think they're gonna have "AGI"

[visual pawn]

hahahaha what

at least get devious with it

make those responses influenced by ads

[obsidian mantle]

ok now make ai to wrap around open ai ai to filter ads

though, if its "clearly labeled" as they say, filtering should not be a big problem at all

does this mean they are not getting enough money from pro/plus/whatever versions

[dusky jackal]

Rip.

[visual pawn]

I just have an image of chatGPT with ad banners all around it like it's 2005

[cosmic sphinx]

LULE just make your own wrapper and use the API instead of subscription

[visual pawn]

well then you would be paying for chatGPT, mission accomplished

[sage crag]

not if you steal someone else's api key that they left in a github repo

[tender river]

https://iczelia.net/posts/snake-polyglot/

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1461026561871577132.webp?size=48&name=EmiAlso&lossless=true

its awful

platform polyglot

not language polyglot

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1461026561871577132.webp?size=48&name=EmiAlso&lossless=true

linux binary, windows binary, and

html

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1452045422074925066.png?size=160&name=MiyagiCat&lossless=true

[tender river]

html

[sage crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1425866152424505394.png?size=160&name=ElvynSerius&lossless=true

[tender river]

oh you could make

binaries

that are their own html help page

since on linux its a shell script

it can actually include multiple architectures

unlike elf

[sage crag]

cloudflare

[olive sable]

☁️ 🔥

[mossy fossil]

13 KiB, but it depends on a browser

that's a fail

.kkrieger is still superior

one 96 KB exe, a full-blown first person shooter

[olive sable]

texas instruments is so bad at naming their shit

"ah yes, id like one DLP3010EVM-LC"

im pretty sure the best deal is that ebay listing for Lightcrafter 4500 at 710 usd

that gives us 912x1440 which is roughly square, and 4225hz binary pattern rate

[tender river]

??

it doesnt depend on a browser

it can run in a browser

but it doesnt depend on one

reading comprehension

[olive sable]

limited by vsync
only does 4225hz with stuff already loaded into ram, for hdmi in it does max 2880hz cuz 24bit*120hz

[wary mauve]

anyone used chatterbox with a decent gpu?

or vibevoice

[olive sable]

2880hz is just not enough for 30hz volumetric

you get stuck to 96 slices monochrome, 32 slices 1bit colour, or 16 slices 2bit colour

96 is borderline acceptable, but it being monochrome is a bit eh

instead of 30 we could do 24hz volumetric, which would afford us 120 - 40 - 20

[pine pilot]

.

[olive sable]

912 x 1140 x 120 would not look great, but we could trade resolution for bit-depth again to get 456 x 570 x 120 with 5 levels of brightness

[young oyster]

What are you working on there?

[olive sable]

volumetric display

[young oyster]

What kind?

[olive sable]

rn we're reasearching projector based ones

but we're open to whatever

[young oyster]

My first thought would be an lcd wrapped around a cylinder with an image rendered with cylindrical projection

[olive sable]

problem with that is lack of depth

[warped narwhal]

I remember seeing a video where they used a regular short throw projector, which went into a glass display that had cracks etched into it. I'll try to find it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrfBjRp61iY this one

[young oyster]

Lack of depth how? Do you need to go into this display?

[olive sable]

no

but a lcd getting wrapped around a cylinder would instantly look bad when you're slightly off-axis

[young oyster]

Like above or below?

[olive sable]

ye, and side too

[young oyster]

It should look fine radially, due yo the projection

But i could see up and down being an issue

[olive sable]

nah thats not how projection works.
imagine there's a light source in the middle of the cyliner, it would need to be dispalyed in the midle of the lcd

but when you turn it 90deg the lcd will show it on the left

you cant show it in the middle from every angle

[young oyster]

Iirc a point light given a cylindrical projection would make something like a horizontal line on the 2d image.

It should be correct every place radially along the cylinder, I dont know the math off the top of my head but I've used it for uv mapping in blender

[olive sable]

ye, everything would become a horizontal line

[opaque wharf]

That's every manufacturer lol

STM32F103C8T6

[young oyster]

But only in 2d, once you map it into the 3d surface you should back your original image...

[olive sable]

that sounds liek the chip in my 3d prionter

[olive sable]

no

[opaque wharf]

Although I think espressif is quite decent

Only ESP32-#

[opaque wharf]

Because it most likely is

That chip is cheap and quite a workhorse

[olive sable]

for lack of a better example.
the logo on this screen is in the centre for us.
but for a person looking at it from the left it wont be in the centre

the same thing will happen for evey 3D object you would try to project into 2D space

[young oyster]

But is that a texture created using cylindrical projection or a normal flat texture wrapped on a cylinder?

[glad path]

can i get a "PPSIUG989-AB"
sorry, that's out of stock...
can i get a "SKJGHDSB-AC"
also out of stock, anything else i can help with
what about a "KFFJHIO-HG"
we have one of those, are you interested in our package deal?
no
ok your total is $98.52, cash or card?
cash
uhh lemme see if i have your $1.48 in change
here you go
thanks
would you like a recipt?
im fine
alright have a nice day

[olive sable]

its the same principle

look

you cant have a curved display showing an object int he center from multiple angles

that breaks the laws of physics

[opaque wharf]

Believe it or not, that is the conversation that I usually have when buying some IC at local electronic center lol

[olive sable]

a pixel cant be on when i look at it from the right but off when i look at it form the left

[opaque wharf]

"Hey, do you have 74HC595? No? What about IRLZ44N? Alright, I'll take 5"

[fading blaze]

I'm gonna pay Willard Carroll Smith II to film him eat spaghetti so I can rugpull some AI Investors

[olive sable]

goodluck?

[fading blaze]

The joke is a lot of people test new video generation models with Will Smith eating Spaghetti

not sure why

[glad path]

what

[fading blaze]

So the idea is I secretly film Will Smith eating Spaghetti so I can pretend I have an extremely realistic AI Video Generation model

[olive sable]

no moving parts which is great. this trades resolution for depth instead of refreshrate for depth

idk where id get one of those glass blocks tho

[opaque wharf]

China

[olive sable]

ok ye, but china is pretty big

[opaque wharf]

Or ebay. If NileRed can get sketchy industrial machine from there, then you can

[olive sable]

i think the glass system would suffer from low resolution too tho

2880hz projectors are commercially available, but 16K projectors arent

or well, not affordably

[young oyster]

Its a different pixel though innit? If it was a flat display that would make sense but on a radial display when you look from one direction at the same spot you see a different pixel than when you look at the same spot from a different angle no?

Cylindrical projection might be the wrong term...im thinking something like a ray traced 3d render of a scene but instead of the rays hitting a flat camera they hit a cylinder surrounding the scene.

[olive sable]

the one in the centre is a different pixel

but the one form the old viewing angle is still visble

[young oyster]

But it isnt facing you anymore, so its not as bright.

[olive sable]

its still 70% the brightness

and thats 1 pixel

if we have the full 360 degrees of viewing angles

its just a line

[young oyster]

I feel like the effect would be not unlike looking at a 3d object in a glass cylinder.

[olive sable]

you jsut cant have it look good from 2 different angles

here we see it twice

once in our centre, and once in the centre fo the person looking at it from the eye emote

now imagine you do that for the full 360 viewing angles

[opaque wharf]

Btw, does uorms still frequent here?

What is his name now?

[olive sable]

nope

[young oyster]

But that just looks like a flat image placed onto the wall, not an image that was rendered in a full cylinder around the object. I think as long as you capture how the light rays bouncing off the object intersect the cylinder and then project them from the display the same...it should come out the same. It comes down to the rendering technique though.

Basically you are capturing the light field with the renderer.

[opaque wharf]

Dang

[proven merlin]

I wonder if CRT based Projectors could handle this at a higher resolution+lower refresh.

[opaque wharf]

I got another obscure language for him
https://github.com/overmighty/i-use-arch-btw

[olive sable]

you do realize what cyliner projection means right?

you project it

onto

the cylinder

it becomes

flat

you project it

to a flat image

[proven merlin]

Well, obviously not the super old ones, id assume newer ones (if they were made) could reach impressive resolutions at low refresh..

[azure lynx]

the problem is the viewing angle will be too good leading to the same image going into both eyes

[young oyster]

Like I said, i think i used the wrong term...I may be thinking of something more like a light field

[olive sable]

you still cant do light field with lcd panels on the outer surface on the cylinder

[azure lynx]

it think they mean LCD panel in the middle rotating or rotating like a second hand on a clock but 1800 times faster

[young oyster]

Basically, I think the image shouldnt look normal in 2d, it should be capturing the intersection of the rays as they bounce off the image and intersect a cylinder around that object

[olive sable]

well yes, but then you still only have 1 viewing angle

[young oyster]

No, the cylinder is the camera

[olive sable]

thats not how that works

[young oyster]

It makes a 360 degree panorama...but reverse

[olive sable]

the very nature of a curved lcd means that the image wont change based on viewing angle

rendering an image for a lightfield dispaly requires the render engine to know the eye position

[young oyster]

The image isnt changing, the image is of the object from different angles

[olive sable]

no

[azure lynx]

you need to do tracking of the viewpoint to make it work if it's on the outside of a cylinder.... and it'd be easier to do with a flat screen

[olive sable]

ye

[azure lynx]

could 2 people see the object at the same time in proper 3d?

[young oyster]

I cant think why not, think like a panorama but instead of looking out it looks in

[azure lynx]

how are you "looking in"? you are "looking at" a surface, no?

[olive sable]

a panorama is only 1 viewing angle.

you cant go to the back of your panorama

[azure lynx]

imagine 2 people standing next to each other. one is 5 feet tall and the other is 6 feet tall. Will they both see the image correctly? if so, how?

[olive sable]

its the exact same thing with people standing next to reachother

[young oyster]

As I said, I think it would have issues vertically not not radially.

[olive sable]

i think you're wrong

[azure lynx]

you'd need some optics so you got different images at different angles. and that's the hard part.

try texturing a cylinder so the thing on it looks like a single 3d object, viewable from different directions.
you should be able to do it with a single image.

or not at all.

[young oyster]

It would be difficult, id have to learn how to make a ray tracing rendering engine (last one I made was rastorized using svg) im sure it would take a while.

[opaque wharf]

This is giving me the same energy when I decided that today is your birthday lol

[azure lynx]

there is a no distortion which takes an object and projects it to a surface so it looks 3d from multiple angles

not without turning it into an unwrapped version of the thing

and that won't look like the thing should

[olive sable]

i recreated it in belnder

allow me to demonstrate

[young oyster]

Ok...though I dont know how you rendered the image, since the method i described isnt something blender does

[young oyster]

What does the texture look like?

[azure lynx]

how could you change that image so you can see it as 3d from two places at once?

it's not possible

or artists would do it

[olive sable]

this, but i did project form view in uv editing.
its the sameprinciple but instead of stretching the image i stretched the UVs

[young oyster]

Thats not what im describing though

[azure lynx]

show me what you are describing. someone must've done the mapping before. find their work.

[olive sable]

are you describing this????

[young oyster]

No, cus that maps onto a sphere, wouldnt look right.

[olive sable]

it doesnt map on a sphere tho

thats cylinder projection of a sphere

[young oyster]

i know...that's what i mean

[olive sable]

if its not either than what do you mean?

[young oyster]

it's not what i am talking about, it's what i said earlier but it's not what i mean

the cylindrical projection takes a point on the inside and projects it out to where it intersects the cylinder...i am taking the light from the outside that bounces off the objects and how that light hits the cylinder

[opaque wharf]

Are you talking about something like a skybox?

[young oyster]

like a camera that surrounds the object

instead of being a flat plane representing a flat screen, like normal 3d rendering does, this is a clyndrical camera for a cylindrical screen

[opaque wharf]

Wtf is a cylindrical camera

[olive sable]

jsut som fancy math

[young oyster]

when you render an image the camera is a plane, this is the inner surface of a cylinder

[olive sable]

i think i get what they mean, but it still doens towrk

[azure lynx]

i think the closest you could get might be to project the image onto the rear wall of the cylinder.

[young oyster]

i think the only issue is up an down, because it's a cylinder

and pixel density

[proven merlin]

Wouldn't a 3d pixel help? Perhaps with limited view angle film in-between it so bleeding would be less severe? Idk, something like a dodecahedron pixel?

Sure that doesn't exist to buy anywhere..

[azure lynx]

if i go right up to the cylinder and look with both eyes what do I see?

do i get a full 3d image in both eyes or not?

and when i move around the cylinder to the right, still looking at it, how does the view change?

[young oyster]

your left eye should see the cylinder from the left and the right should see the cylinder from the right, because the image is rendered in such a way they should see the virtual 3d object from different angles

[azure lynx]

the inside or the outside of the cylinder? is it literally seeing 2 different images projected at different times?

how is this different from a 2d screen except for it having a rounded outside and you only being able to see 1/2 of it at one time?

[young oyster]

imagine the object was in a glass cylinder. light hits it and bounces off and hits the cylinder and goes out into the world yes?

like a real world object in a real cylinder here

[olive sable]

you mean something like this? where the cube gets projected onto the cylinder via the ray from the center to the cylinder?

[azure lynx]

the inside or the outside of the cylinder?

[young oyster]

right now just imagine a real object in a real cylinder

[azure lynx]

is it just one image, or does it send a different image to each eye somehow?

coz that'll tell me if it's possible or not.

[young oyster]

we'll get there, i am not the best at words....but if you have an object in a cylinder light hits it, bounces off it, hits the inside of the cylinder passes through it and goes out into the world yes?

[olive sable]

no

[young oyster]

no?

[azure lynx]

simple qestion: 1 image hits both eyes or different images hit each eye?

[young oyster]

the image certainly looks different to each eye, because each eye sees different rays

[olive sable]

but thats not how an lcd works

an lcd cant choose in which direction it shoots a ray

it gets spread out

[azure lynx]

how? are you sending two different images? otherwise explain how they look different to each eye. in what way?

[olive sable]

both eyes see the same pixel

[azure lynx]

draw a picture of a box. make it look 3d for both eyes.

once you've done that, i'll listen

also, what is the advantage of the cylinder over a flat screen for your method? wouldn't a flat screen be make it easier to calculate the projection?

[young oyster]

but they see the pixel DIFFERENTLY.

[azure lynx]

what do you mean by "differently"?

it's in a different place

[young oyster]

the advantage is the cylinder includes theta not just x and y

[olive sable]

seeing the pixel form a different angle wont make it change the image

the only way to make a LCD loo 3D is by making both eyes see soemthing different at the same depth

the nintendo 3DS uses parallax barrier

you can use lenses on the pixels, but that still only limits you to 1 viewpoint

[young oyster]

but again, that's a flat screen

[azure lynx]

there are curved monitors. they aren't 3d.

[olive sable]

being curved doesnt change anytihng tho

[young oyster]

it does because it changes the angle of the light

a flat screen has all light going forward, a cylinder has all light going out radially

[olive sable]

no

a flat screen has light go in all directions

just like a curved screen has light go in all directions

[young oyster]

technically each pixes goes out in a cone, sure, but the cone faces away from you in spots on a cylinder and towards you in other spots

[olive sable]

you can see the screen of your phone from the side, because the light goes in all directions

if the light only had a narrow cone your screen would be full black form the sides

[young oyster]

but it is also distorted when viewed at an angle, that's why head tracking works.

[olive sable]

headtrackign works because they jsut change the image

headtracking only does 1 viewing angle at the same time

[young oyster]

actually, that might be a bad example...

[azure lynx]

where is the extra 3d information being stored in the 2d image you are sending to the LCD panel in your cylinder?

how does it know how to make it 3d?

(from each angle)

you'd need to store a stack of image values, one per view direction

or have some mechanism for generating them algorithmically.

[young oyster]

the theta comes from the angle the light hit the cylinder, that's your extra information, the pixels put that light back out. as mentioned it will scatter, but light coming off a glass cylinder also scatters.

i'll see if i can find anyone who has made cylindrical cameras for 3d ray tracing

[azure lynx]

they'll disappoint you.

only working from one point.

you are somehow wanting to have your cake and eat it too.
you can't have a narrow view angle per pixel and also have just a 2d image wrapped around a cylinder. one has to be wrong.

so again, do you have
(a) one image that somehow appears 3d because you are wrapping it around a cylinder, or
(b) multiple images being sent out depending on your viewing angle?

[olive sable]

the reason light going through a glass cylinder works irl, is because light is passing through it and not being emmited by it in all directiosn

[azure lynx]

and each eye also gets a different image

[olive sable]

you cant store a theta for each light direction and then choose to only emit light in that direction on the actual screen

on an lcd, you either have light going in all directions or no light

[azure lynx]

if you have more than x and y as your dimensions, you need some way to hack z into it or you just get flat images. and i haven't heard any explanation for where the 3d is coming from

here's a valid way of making it work using 2d images: "a camera tracks the viewer's eyes' positions and averages them and then you render the image for that viewpoint. when you're far enough away it looks 3d enough for one person."

[olive sable]

the reason these 3D movies with red and blue work is because you encode the depth into the offset between the red and the blue.
and you need the 3D glasses to make it so each eye sees something different

but even this technique wont work for multiple viewing angles

[young oyster]

even light coming off a cylinder in the real world example also scatters in all directions, it's just strongest in one direction.

i've seen displays that look black if viewed from an angle though...i think that used to be a problem in certain screens no?

[glad path]

if you're far enough

[glad path]

polarization?

[young oyster]

were those lcd or leds?

[azure lynx]

neither LCDs nor LEDs will encode any extra information in the view angle unless you put it there.
(a) same image per eye
(b) different image per eye

simple quesion.

[olive sable]

not really. light going through glass still follows the same direction. there is a 1% inefficiency to it tho that does scatter light a bit
lcd on the other hand just scatters in pretty much all directions

[young oyster]

i used to have screens that if you tilted them they turned black, or inverted

[glad path]

in the real world the light will refract and become scattered

if a display is black from an angle that is a byproduct of the way the display works (has to do with polarization)

[young oyster]

i know newer displays don't seem to do that, because it sucks when you watch tv and you can't see it from an angle

[glad path]

it has to do with how the screen works once again

[olive sable]

TN panel?

[azure lynx]

is that useful for encoding different images per eye? you'd only be putting one eye value in and the other eye is supposed to somehow be the right image from the new angle?

[glad path]

modern displays have fixed that issue

[glad path]

no

its not controllable

its literalyl just a side effect of literally how the display works

its not something programmed in by anyone

[azure lynx]

(was intended to be Platonic questioning. i know.)

[olive sable]

its basically jsut in TN panels the pixel layer blockign light at off-axis angles

not really something you can use for 3D

[glad path]

yes

the screen uses filters to manipulate the light

physical filters i mean

[olive sable]

you could technically use it for parrallax, but then you still only have 1 viewing angle

[glad path]

and viewing at an angle will cause the filters to become misaligned from your POV

[young oyster]

the mapping to the cylinder handles the view from different angles, but as mentioned pixels going in all directions can cause distortion, if a given pixel has a narrow range of viewing angles, you wouldn't have that distortion, you just see the light that should be going out in that direction

[azure lynx]

how would this feature help? please explain in detail how you are storing the 3d information without actually sending more than a 2d image

the disortion. how does it help?

[glad path]

if you want to show a 3d image you project it onto a 2d canvas using some fancy equations

[young oyster]

the angle to the cylinder is the third dimension, the theta

[olive sable]

so what you're propossing is a cylinder that has a pixel for each 1 degree angle you can look at it?

[azure lynx]

the angle is constant per rowe

so it doens't give any 3d info

[glad path]

essentially you are talking about curving the viewing plane when rendering, if i am correct?

or

[azure lynx]

it's literally a 2d surface.

[young oyster]

prismatic: we have been talking about displaying a 3d image on an lcd wrapped around a cylinder. i have proposed a renderer that uses a cylindrical camera to capture the information from a ray tracing of the object for displaying on the cylindrical display

[glad path]

ok

[olive sable]

it just doens't work from different view angles at the same time

[glad path]

this would just cause perspective distortion to be applied to the screen from the viewer's point of view

it wouldn't change the content on the screen

[young oyster]

i think it would work from any angle radially but not horizontally, they think it wouldn't work radially either

[azure lynx]

no, you have been claiming it is possible. we have been asking how it would make a 3d picture.

[glad path]

nor would it allow you to create depth any more than you already can, if i am correct

[azure lynx]

if the cylinder gives theta, what gives r?

you have fixed radius

so not 3d

[olive sable]

you technically can make an lcd have 2 different images, 1 for each eye, based on how the nintendo 3ds does it with parallax
BUT that doesnt work for multiple viewing angles

you cant make a display that has a different image for each 1 degree slice you can view it at from

unless you make it 5000K resolution

[glad path]

the best way to get something like that is to have a camera that can pivot to face a viewer
and track the viewer's head and adjust the image accoringly

but it would work with only one person

[azure lynx]

you'd need to be able to project at various depths from the center to the edge of the cylinder to make a 3d object. you can only project to the far edge.

[young oyster]

yeah, that's what we are trying to avoid afaik

[olive sable]

hell, the angle for the left eye would interfere with the image for the right eye at a different viewpoint

[young oyster]

i came in kinda late into discussion and might have derailed it

[glad path]

slap an april tag on their head or something

[glad path]

aka literally projecting a 3d object to 3d?

[olive sable]

ok so, we decided a week ago we didnt want ot use eye tracking

[azure lynx]

and look how far you've come

[olive sable]

cu multiple people need to see it at the same time

[glad path]

project an image onto water vapor

[young oyster]

i actually don't know what the project is

[olive sable]

volumetric display

[young oyster]

yeah, but a volumetric display for what?

[glad path]

if you can figure out how to do it right you will have a 3d display

but good luck

[olive sable]

you cant control the height it will get refracted at, so wont work

[azure lynx]

the project was afaik "i want this for myself" and the lack of eye tracker was because they want to be able to show it off... they could just take the tracker off themself and put it on the other person to show it off...

[olive sable]

for bein cool to look at

[glad path]

yes

[azure lynx]

doing a real 3d display is hard. and expensive. and looks shitty.

[glad path]

if you could somehow target individual particles of water vapor that might do it

but good luck

like how on earth are you planning to do that

[olive sable]

the current idea is a double helix spinning at 15rps, while a projector does 2880hz image onto it

[azure lynx]

better to do something easy and cheap if it's going to look shitty anyway

[glad path]

you know those fans with leds on them

is it like that

[olive sable]

kinda

we want to go higher resolution, so idea is projector rn

[glad path]

this could probably work if the projector can get the timing right

[olive sable]

hall effect sensor shoudl work

[glad path]

but it wouldn't be very compact

[olive sable]

it can be if i do custom optics. but i dont have the budget for that

[glad path]

and it woudln't work in 360 because of how a projector is

i might be wrong

[olive sable]

projector sits at the bottom and projects up is the idea

[glad path]

some parts of it wouldn't be able to be projected on though?

[olive sable]

still need to figure out how to get the lenses int he bottom to work

if we get the light to go parallel straight up

it shoudl work

[azure lynx]

perhaps project something on the helix with a light with a projection image so we can see how that would look?

[glad path]

could you perhaps try and recreate this digitally

[azure lynx]

(in bender)

just assume you have it collimated if that makes it easier

can always fix it in post

[olive sable]

i just did a single light ray upwards cuz i dont have anything set up to dispaly on this yet

oh i fucked up the aspect ratio

even worse

[azure lynx]

can you shine a colored light upwards from the bottom?

[olive sable]

thats what i did

that the red thing

[azure lynx]

what type of light is it? perhaps a directional light instead of a point?
(also, can a light really illuminate the center of the helix? it seems like the center itself would block it)

[olive sable]

the very center is probably not gonna work ye

but the rest should

a sideways circle has been proposed before

[warped narwhal]

with this design, would the projector have to change the image as the centre spins?

[olive sable]

ye

[azure lynx]

it'd display the slice it was projecting

[warped narwhal]

you're gonna want a tachometer then as the motor will not always be spinning at the same speed

[azure lynx]

brushless motor and PID control based on feedback from the ESC (with a very high gear ratio)

[olive sable]

motor shoudl be going 15rps, but well use a potentiometer to sync

[glad path]

letting them out of sync intentionally would be a cool effect

[olive sable]

it would sink probably

[warped narwhal]

it could also go wobbly side to side I think

[olive sable]

[azure lynx]

like a 1970s tv show special effect

[visual pawn]

The existing volumetric displays using this concept do tend to wobble somewhat

[olive sable]

its mostly jsut for funs

some woble is fine

[azure lynx]

i wonder if i would be more productive with another monitor.

[olive sable]

i cant really get it to go straight up liek a projector would

but its close enoguh

[azure lynx]

you might need an area light but then you can change the color to be an image. you could make it like a UV red/green gradient X a checkerboard or something so you can tell how each part of the projected image is over time

[olive sable]

it shoudl just be 30hz for same location, and then radial offset and same offset for height

this works

[azure lynx]

could you put a grid of lights?

[olive sable]

i crashed blender

is bro doing sans rp?

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[azure lynx]

that shows lots of relections off the outer plastic

[olive sable]

ye, its not really suppsoed to do thast

i guess its kinda unavoidable, but irl it should be a lot less

it shoudl not look too bad, about the same as the voxon ones

[azure lynx]

i think it'll depend a lot on ambient lighting and how the final material behaves.
if it was easy you could buy one now.

[olive sable]

ye

the projecotr is the main constraint from what i can tell tho

[rigid snow]

my first thought is to polarize the light

[olive sable]

wdym?

how would that help?

[rigid snow]

not reflect off the walls
or the helix either thinking about it

[olive sable]

its supposed to reflect of the helix

[rigid snow]

no shit

well lazers then

[olive sable]

the idea is that the light will be going up in parallel lines vertically

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

so it shoudl nt have issues with the glass

[olive sable]

im too broke for lasers. DLP

Micromirrors

[rigid snow]

i'm not too familiar with how dlp works

[rigid snow]

also here looks like it's reflecting off of the helix and then the outer glass, 2 bounces

so nothing discussed would completely get rid of that

surely that ruins the effect

[olive sable]

its mostly fine

i think

[glad path]

refraction

remove the glass maybe

[olive sable]

it shoudlnt be much worse than the one from voxon

and thats a commercial product

[rigid snow]

name checks out

[glad path]

actually, it's prismatic as in "taking the form/shape/appearance of a prism"

[olive sable]

a fuckton of small mirrors basically

[glad path]

emphasis on shape

[rigid snow]

what

do i not know something

[olive sable]

you dont know how DLP works according to you

[rigid snow]

no the vedalpuppet

[olive sable]

this is more important tho

[glad path]

OHH its that one effect

where you bounce light off a clear material to give the illusion of a ghost or somethign

[olive sable]

ye

[glad path]

but its used to stack the colors of light in this case

[olive sable]

yes

[glad path]

couldn't you potentially use that alone for 3d if done right

it would be finicky but you can simulate depth somewhat with it

[olive sable]

its like this for phones, but less shit

[glad path]

ive seen that i think

[olive sable]

the probelm with those is that its only 1 viewpoint

or 4 i guess

[fiery anchor]

certainly an ambitious project

[olive sable]

you cant look at it from all sides

which is bad

[rigid snow]

where does this project from

[olive sable]

voxon

[rigid snow]

from above?

[olive sable]

that one is just leds

[rigid snow]

project (verb)

[olive sable]

hence why the resolution looks so bad, but its bright and fast

[rigid snow]

so it's not a spinning helix or are the leds on the helix and no projection is happening

[olive sable]

its a spinning array of leds

[rigid snow]

ohhhh yeah i've seen those

[glad path]

that looks like cgi

smh

[rigid snow]

projection should look better but something tells me there is a reason it;'s not projection

[glad path]

spinning leds are probably cheap and easy to manufacture

thats why

[rigid snow]

oh for sure

[olive sable]

i mean, it is

[glad path]

it's likely because they can make a lot of them at low costs

[rigid snow]

r&d is also like min 10x cheaper

if not 100x

[glad path]

yh

in theory one day you'd be able to use mist for holograms, right

if you had powerful enough computers, hi res cameras, and some really fancy optics it might be possible to individually target the water droplets midair

[fiery anchor]

Hmm have you spared a thought to air movement? Your render looks like it could move quite a bit of air -> air resistance.

[olive sable]

you dont need to deal with optics, and leds are really easy to make do 1800hz
a full 2D array vertical means you also dont need to account for height. it jsut spins to create the horizontal

[rigid snow]

i thought about that too
sam put it in a vacuum chamber

[olive sable]

i dont have a vacuum chamber lmao

[glad path]

if it's in a sealed chambed couldn't you also use a low density gas

like argon or something

idk

[fiery anchor]

that's a hassle

[olive sable]

i also dont have argon

[rigid snow]

jokes aside it's easily fixable if you connect the bottom to the top

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1288144271823601744/1296488596743786568/rotate_rotate.gif

[rigid snow]

so it negates

[olive sable]

its not like its gonna be airtight

there will be gaps everyewhere

[fiery anchor]

i think just making sure the air has a path to move through should be enough.

[olive sable]

ye

[fiery anchor]

inb4 accidental hovercraft

[glad path]

what

[olive sable]

make it sping the other way, downforce

[amber fractal]

Too much weight I think

[olive sable]

+2 km/h on my mclaren

[rigid snow]

idk that thing would have to spin pretty fast

[olive sable]

900rpm, 15rps

[rigid snow]

900 rpm is too slow

[olive sable]

nah its good

[amber fractal]

agreed it is too slow

[glad path]

it doesnt need to be perfect though

like

[fiery anchor]

"Helicopter rotation speeds (RPM) vary by model, but generally range from 200-600 RPM for main rotors"

[glad path]

getting anything to work is generally the first step

[glad path]

1. pretty sure it uses a flywheel
2. it would probably be geared up so theres a higher speed

[olive sable]

15rps means we get 30hz since the helix has a left and a right side

[amber fractal]

helicopters make up for that fact by surface area

[silent cloak]

Are u guys doing math on the physics of neuro spinning?

[rigid snow]

yeah lmao that's waaaay too slow

[glad path]

no

[silent cloak]

Shame

[olive sable]

are we talkign too slow for the projection or the hovercraft?

cuz i think it works fine for 30hz projection

[amber fractal]

hovercraft

[fiery anchor]

just throwing wild ideas around.

[rigid snow]

i am talking about for the projection

[olive sable]

15rps works for 30hz

[rigid snow]

that would look so ass

[silent cloak]

We were promised hoverboards in 2015

[olive sable]

the left side updates 15 times, the right one updates 15 times. you get 30hz

cuz they overlap

[rigid snow]

we kinda have those

they're just

[olive sable]

hovercrafts

[silent cloak]

Show

[glad path]

hoverboards seem like they'd be a bit useless though

whats the actual use in having a hoverboard?

[silent cloak]

Be cool as fuck

[glad path]

its just a skateboard you need to recharge

[olive sable]

being wicked

[glad path]

at least make it 2 in 1 combo snowboard/hoverboard

[silent cloak]

I mean if it hovers then it shouldn't matter

[olive sable]

when the battery runs out and you break your knees and neck

[silent cloak]

Worth it

[olive sable]

[glad path]

but it would be cool af if you were snowboarding then randomly just hovered up and floated over a bunch of moguls

[rigid snow]

lmao you can't make this up,. 2015

[glad path]

isnt that the sky surf thing

[olive sable]

same thing

[silent cloak]

I saw that back in the day na thats the green goblin hovercraft

[fiery anchor]

a hoverboard a neat natural selection device.

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/amazing-spiderman-green-goblin-gif-5957385

[glad path]

a flying car would be more useful

[silent cloak]

We were also promised those in 2015

[glad path]

except it would also be kinda useless because of regulations

[silent cloak]

The closest we have is just a plane with extra steps

[rigid snow]

they're super cool but are crazy expensive and are considered aircraft in, i would imagine most jurisdictions, which is a pita

[glad path]

pita?

[rigid snow]

PITA

[glad path]

yum

pita bread

you two are taking a while to type

[silent cloak]

The one future tech we are getting that seems useful is self driving cars

Well once they are decent

I can commute in my sleep

[glad path]

yes

the advantage of a self driving car is that it somewhat eliminates human unpredictability

[rigid snow]

yeah when we get majority self driving cars on the road we wouldn't have traffic jams anymore

[olive sable]

imma eep
goodnight

[silent cloak]

I hate driving so im excited

[glad path]

so you wont have some idiot driving the wrong way down the freeway or something

[silent cloak]

Night legend

[fiery anchor]

mhm don't like the idea of flying cars. Yeah, sure, would be cool, but only with full autonomous driving. Humans can't even drive in 2D properly, let's not add an extra dimension of possibilities.

[glad path]

true

hear me out

[silent cloak]

We need auto pilot first i suppose

[glad path]

just

uh

reinvent trains

but they fly

not maglev

like

fully flying or something

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-train-flying-train-time-machine-doc-brown-gif-18326949

[glad path]

back to the future ahh

where we're going, we don't need tracks!

[rigid snow]

there's an extra dimension which means practically infinitely more space, not to mention you don't need roads

[glad path]

it will be a lot better if you can actually do it

[silent cloak]

Just have the sky as a fast lane for auto pilot

[glad path]

lol

everyone gangsta till a bird flies straight at you

and you crash into oncoming traffic

start a fire

and cause a massive pile up, resulting in the road closing for 8 hours

because of ONE BIRD

[fiery anchor]

Also: Assume we have flying Cars. Why would you drive, if you could fly. And if it doesn't drive, is it a even a car anymore?

[silent cloak]

Some people just like driving

Plus it fits the existing infrastructure

[glad path]

the main benefit of a flying car is the fact that you need far far less infastructure

[real sierra]

pwogwammews

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2-sfm-team-fortress2-sourcefilmmaker-gif-18587844

[glad path]

shiro why'd you change ur bio

its more random now

[rigid snow]

automodded, probably for the better

[silent cloak]

Lmao

[real sierra]

i try to find a new product every year for my bio

[glad path]

the otherone had random references in it but this one doesnt...

[rigid snow]

i'm doing n-gons right now

[glad path]

as far as i can tell

[rigid snow]

[real sierra]

i plan to add them randomly over time

as i did with the other

[real sierra]

regular (lim n->infinity)-gon

🔴

[real sierra]

what the fuck is that video

[silent cloak]

its an api call

[real sierra]

API is calling

OH

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-blast-jimmy-neutron-jimbo-gif-26286685

[real sierra]

i thought it was just some turbo schizo video

i didnt get the joke at all

[silent cloak]

it was schizo but it did have a joke

[glad path]

i dont entirely get it

[real sierra]

its just an api call

[glad path]

ok

so like whats the joke then

[fiery anchor]

i'm too german to find that funny.

[real sierra]

that is the joke

[glad path]

ok

[real sierra]

a phone call from API

[glad path]

so its just an antimeme

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-hehehe-mwehehe-gif-18358017715551073826

[real sierra]

as an allegory

to the programming sense of an "api call"

[glad path]

OH

WIAT

WAIT

OHHH

[silent cloak]

grok explain this for me

[real sierra]

[glad path]

I was thinking in terms of phone calls

[real sierra]

fair enough i didnt get it at first either

[glad path]

so i was like "a phone call from an api"

[real sierra]

thats why i thought it was so schizo

[glad path]

i get it nooowwww

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

[glad path]

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

[silent cloak]

good thing i dont share my general humor in here besides some programming shit i find once in a while

[real sierra]

i am not answering that call tho

i know damn well if my opening message isn't structured correctly, i'm gonna be on the line for the next hour listening to the stack trace

[silent cloak]

kek

[real sierra]

sending TCP RST and going about my day

[silent cloak]

ive been playing with elysia today for REST

[glad path]

imagine you pick it up and its just

POST /submit-data HTTP/1.1
Host: example.com
Content-Type: application/json
Content-Length: im too lazy to put something here

{
  "Recipient":"[insert ur phone number or something]",
  "Message": "US CUSTOMS: Your amazon order could not be delivered, try giving us your address at usps.uspsnotascam.viruslink.co.google.com.net, thank you"
}```

theres just a tts voice reading this to you

[jagged turtle]

omfg

[patent shard]

whoever has a 360hz display (or at least 240) does this look faster than the previous one (right above the reply to my comment) #swarm message

[azure lynx]

the browser will limit the max speed. at least it used to.

[patent shard]

Firefox definitely does, its limit is about 60 fps

but I'm using Edge

idk if it also has a limit...

but regardless, my display is only 120... that's the issue

[fiery anchor]

Yes, it looks smoother ( 240hz )

[patent shard]

okay, thanks!
it views slower on a 120hz display :/ probably better to stick with the 240 fps one than the 360 fps one...

[silent cloak]

does what

oh

uh i think so?

actually

the one before it might be a little faster

[azure lynx]

they're different images. it'll be hard to tell.

[patent shard]

I do think the first one doesn't loop as well for some reason

[azure lynx]

completely different contrast levels

[fiery anchor]

Well, it's still nonsense either way, jiggeling around.

[silent cloak]

2nd one is ghosting more though

[patent shard]

you're comparing to this one, right? #swarm message it should be pretty much the same, just different frame rate/speed and maybe the second one loops ever so slightly better for some reason (maybe I messed up the first one)

[fiery anchor]

looks fine, ship it.

[silent cloak]

LGTM

[patent shard]

the loop is every 750ms or so on the first one, it's that skip I'm seeing.. so it shouldn't affect the look of speed for the most part...
the second one is like every 100ms or something? for some reason, doesn't have that skip...

[patent shard]

that's true.. but if the 240 fps one actually looks faster than the 360 fps one, kind of silly to go with 360 fps...
but I do think it's just that my display is only 120 fps :/

[warped narwhal]

I'm on 160hz, the first looks faster, but the 2nd looks more consistent

[silent cloak]

here is a guide for choosing an OS

[fiery anchor]

Using Linux Mint, checks out

[unkempt citrus]

Using opensuse, checks out

[silent cloak]

its probably the most accurate diagram ive seen so far

[opaque sigil]

[young plover]

tbh the distro matters less than the DE
people really out there fighting about which command they use to install packages

[quick condor]

Nyarch lol

[silent cloak]

need another one for package managers then

[young plover]

KDE for former Windows users
Tiling window manager #37 if you hate yourself
Gnome for nobody. Gnome

[silent cloak]

honestly true

[real sierra]

https://x.com/advaithj1/status/2012686850989920377?s=20

advaith (@advaithj1)

on Discord desktop, you can now type @ time to send a dynamic timestamp

X · Jan 18, 2026, 12:41 AM

its about time

pun was not intended

[fiery anchor]

but appreciated

[quick condor]

<t:1768696860:s>

[hard delta]

<t:946681200:s>

[azure lynx]

<t:1768723383:S>

yeah. close enough.

[fleet jungle]

Wait, what's the difference between arch and debian?

Surprised windows isn't part of the swearing allegiance to the Big Boss™

maybe the chart hasn't been updated recently

[glad path]

<t:-30610152000:R>

<t:-30294619200:f>

what

i said 1/1/1010

huh

[glad path]

you mean big brother

[fleet jungle]

that too, but apparently Apple "won't sell your data"™

[unkempt citrus]

Timezone

[maiden geyser]

thanks for the daily dose of anti-windows propaganda

[glad path]

but how does that set it back by like 5 days

[glad path]

its COMPLETELY wrong about apple

[unkempt citrus]

It's 2/1/1010 for me how fucked up is yorh time zone

[glad path]

windows has at least 13094 times more corporate shitfuckery than macos

[glad path]

macos is not a bloated os
it is not trying to push apple products on you constantly
it also doesnt have ads built in to it
you dont even need to sign into your apple account to use the computer

[maiden geyser]

so true bestie

[glad path]

ive been using macos for quite a while (im not really that deep in the ecosystem i own a laptop and an old ipad and never use the ipad) and dont have many complaints

most of my issues with it are just nitpicks

windows should be swapped with macos in the diagram at the very least

[amber fractal]

I do agree there, that branch should be swapped

[glad path]

macos is not corporate-ish

it doesnt force ai on you either

you can just disable apple intelligence

and you can also uninstall almost all of the preinstalled apps

[glad path]

holy obfuscated code

[glad path]

the option for apple should be "a bit" honestly

that would do it just fine

[true hemlock]

I don't like the hardware itself because it's objectively inferior AND pricy, but macos is objectively superior compared to windows.

[azure lynx]

wow. surprising mix.

[flint dome]

nah the battery and cooling setup is kinda fire even if the arm chips suck

really light and portable

[true hemlock]

the battery life is nice

[flint dome]

though some apps just dont run on it because of the arm

[true hemlock]

The only advantage though

The cooling kind of suck

But works

though it probably didn't suck on base m chip lineup

[glad path]

the hardware isnt bad

[true hemlock]

It overheats a lot on pro and max lineup

[glad path]

doesnt happen to me

[glad path]

wrong

intel based apps run on macs because of rosetta

[true hemlock]

nah it's just the ecosystem

[glad path]

just install rosetta and you can run intel apps

its really easy to install it takes like a minute

and its not intrusive

[true hemlock]

also macs are objectively more convenient than any windows laptop though if you don't even game or do heavy shit

[glad path]

the battery is very good
the performance is also very nice

[flint dome]

they shutting rosetta 2 in 2027

[glad path]

you can run windows games with wine, its not that hard

[flint dome]

although valve is now doing the work for arm now

[glad path]

2029 actually

[flint dome]

huh

[true hemlock]

they tuned the whole board, not just the SoC to tighten the voltage curve

[glad path]

pretty sure its 2029

[patent walrus]

Sent from my iPhone

[true hemlock]

and great power states

[glad path]

oh you're right its 2027

[flint dome]

valve fex might get there before it sunsets though

[true hemlock]

so you get really low overall system power draw

the power regulation wins there. easily.

[azure lynx]

just another arch to support. only a few percent. not worth the effort.

[glad path]

its not going to affect me probably

you'll have full support until 2029

if you remain on older OS versions

[flint dome]

well they only have one hardware to work with so the tuning is obv much better, windows has a shitton of hardware to deal with and two cpu companies and three gpu companies

[glad path]

if you dont mind the lack of security patches you can have indefinite rosetta support

[true hemlock]

partly that yeah

though that makes x86 in general far more versatile

[flint dome]

also doesnt help they keep writing their drivers on top of ntoskernel and refuse to rewrite it

[true hemlock]

but also doesn't limit the possibility of you tuning your own hardware.

[patent walrus]

does anyone actually need rosetta nowadays? it's been 5-6 years

[glad path]

not a lot anymore

[true hemlock]

depends

[flint dome]

well i did tune my own fan curves might fix my voltage curves later for undervolting and stuff

[glad path]

it's mostly helpful for wine

[true hemlock]

but knowing you're rich af and have both a pc and a good mac

you def don't

[glad path]

i have an m3 as my main computer

laptop

not desktop

and i have a school issued computer

thats it really

[true hemlock]

i wanna try using a mac

[flint dome]

idk i got the cheapest victus and im happy with that

[true hemlock]

probably gonna get refurbed one

[glad path]

probably a good idea

the macbook airs arent actually that bad despite the lack of cooling

[flint dome]

obligatory thinkpad plug

[azure lynx]

more people use an iphone than use a mac. and many many more people use windows. just going to have to wait for drivers for such a niche product.

[true hemlock]

my only reason i haven't gotten any mac is because it hurts my standards of price to performance/specs

[glad path]

fair

I only stick with macs because i absolutely hate windows, and because macbooks are just so god damn reliable

they just work

[true hemlock]

andddd i have a beefy self built "laptop"

[true hemlock]

they're always reliable

that's just the truth

[flint dome]

some of my software doesnt run on mac tho, like icarus verilog n shi so i use windows

[glad path]

wine

[flint dome]

i might just get rid of that entirely for fedora

[glad path]

use wine

[true hemlock]

i'd rather a mac than a cheap ass windows laptop.

[glad path]

use chatgpt to set up wine with directx11 and vulkan translation layers

[azure lynx]

what about a windows laptop that cost the same as the mac?

[flint dome]

no need iverilog is native fedora im just too lazy to backup

[glad path]

uhhh

idk

[true hemlock]

i don't really have a reason to. i'd rather the one that last the longest on battery

i already have plenty of beefy machines on my own

[glad path]

but anyways I have a working wine setup, I can play windows games relatively fine

[flint dome]

half the time im too busy in work to even bother doing a backup to turn my main os from windows to fedora

[azure lynx]

you're arguing that money is not a reason.

[true hemlock]

because it is not the reason

i have the money

just that as for now, i have this one unreasonable standards

though if i wanted great battery life

[azure lynx]

so why would you compare a "cheap ass windows laptop" with "a mac"?

[true hemlock]

i could just build a picoITX system with my i9 13900 engi sample powered by my 488Wh lipo battery

[azure lynx]

cool bro

[true hemlock]

that could last 3-4 days depending on what i do with it

[brisk laurel]

What are some the beginner friendly ways to learn Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code

[true hemlock]

wait i think i know you

[brisk laurel]

Yeah

[flint dome]

what was your previous code editor

[brisk laurel]

Im a beginner

[brisk laurel]

But ive tried vs code to change a wallpaper once

Once

[brisk laurel]

None

[amber fractal]

I mean it makes sense to me, if the goal is battery life then your limited by the power draw. So you'd want the grabage chips to not dissolve the battery instantly.

[true hemlock]

visual studio code is the code editor. there's no clear way of learning it. you should learn the programming language itself

[amber fractal]

True

[brisk laurel]

That is?

[true hemlock]

any of your choice

depending on what you wanna do

[flint dome]

r u doing the html thingy

[brisk laurel]

Cyber security

[true hemlock]

[brisk laurel]

I also wanna make a website of my own

Like a portfolio

[brisk laurel]

[flint dome]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[azure lynx]

ah... that's kinda a hard field. what area specifically?

[true hemlock]

okay... cyber security is less of programming and more of analysis and finding vulnerabilities most of the time

[brisk laurel]

Haven't thought about it yet

[azure lynx]

there can be a lot of programming but mostly it's understanding other people's code.

[brisk laurel]

I see

Then i fcked up my resume then

[flint dome]

cyber security you usually only do after you are very good at programming and know computers a bit welll

[azure lynx]

it depends on what area you are in. i did many years in cyber security but i was in a special group so got a distorted view of it.

[true hemlock]

if you wanna make a functional web, JavaScript works i suppose
but if its just graphic design related or just web to display stuff without much backend functionality, maybe the basics of html+css should do

[true hemlock]

also this

[glad path]

learn python to start then learn c++

[true hemlock]

c++

[flint dome]

i been doing what you would call the stereotypical asian kid programming setup (not a brag, i hate it) since i been doing programming since grade 4 (started with BASIC) and i still find proper cybersecurity hard (not just the script kiddie stuff since that stuff is pointless)

[true hemlock]

though i also suggest js a bit because most systems nowdays are built on it so you gotta have some familiarity with it

for starters

[azure lynx]

if you want to do cybersecurity learn python, C++, bash (and lots of the standard tools), and any language used for writing webapps.

[keen hatch]

dgx spark

[flint dome]

python is good place to start yes

[brisk laurel]

[brisk laurel]

Gotcha

[flint dome]

very friendly language to start

[brisk laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1308473002819715153/smolEmbedNwero.gif

[flint dome]

i would recommend the classic harvard cs50 if you know some math

[true hemlock]

dgx spark is overrated ngl

[brisk laurel]

[flint dome]

computers have a bit of a learning curve when you are just starting out but it gets easier once you figure out the flow

if you can naturally seek patterns in things then it will be easy for you

[brisk laurel]

@true hemlock @flint dome @azure lynx @glad path

Are there free courses to learn python, JavaScript, and C++?

[glad path]

yes

[true hemlock]

a lot

[brisk laurel]

Thanks for the advice

[glad path]

a lot of them

I can help you if you want