programming

[unkempt citrus]

Oh please it's just electricity, what's the worst that could happen

[burnt marsh]

oh idk. you could die...

[unkempt citrus]

Yeah in that case having the LEDs on the outside is much better. Coil heated lamps aren't common and Neuros only does it because colour changing isn't common and LEDs can't provide enough heat by themselves

Colour sync on the outside is much safer and will gett you close enough

[burnt marsh]

the issue is where to mount them and also how shitty it might look

the filament bulb also doesnt contribute much to light because the bottom of the globe is made not clear with foil

[azure lynx]

you could wrap a strip of RGB LEDs around the base or the top, pointing inwards?

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/killua-anime-power-electric-hunter-x-hunter-gif-14323439

[fiery anchor]

as a kid i tried to build a hovercraft, so i parallel wired some pc fans and wired those to a broken desk lamp. god was my dad pissed when the breaker blew.

[unkempt citrus]

LEDS can get really small and just placing them around the rim I think would look fine

[burnt marsh]

top is kinda too small, where on the base?

[burnt marsh]

where on the rim? like outside pointing in?

because that would look pretty bad ngl

[azure lynx]

you'd want the LEDs illuminating the inside of the lamp, so perhaps on a 3d printed ring as close as you can to the bottom of the glass would work? you could even spiral something around the lamp so it gets more even illumination...

[sage crag]

nya

[unkempt citrus]

I would think along the rim yes, but if you can remove the glass you could also put it along the inner rim too

[olive sable]

nya

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-snoopa-lord-foog-dog-funny-gif-20125052

[burnt marsh]

agh thatd look so bad, i could take the globe out and put it on the inner rim but then heat becomes an issue

[unkempt citrus]

If its not in direct contact it should be fine

that can withstand up to 60C usually

better ones can go higher

[burnt marsh]

neopixel sustained temp max is like 65c, and the globe ambient seems much higher

[olive sable]

3 axis gimbal controlled nose

[unkempt citrus]

The globe itslef I would expect to be higher

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421861060507602944/1425936142754123927/neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf.webp

paypal me 30000USD

[unkempt citrus]

But nearby surfaces I doubt it

[olive sable]

i can do 30 bucks

take it or leave it

[burnt marsh]

okay. thatd be mounting on the outside, though, and that wouldnt look great, only other option is under globe in base, where heat is...

[sage crag]

i accept

[unkempt citrus]

The other option is to mount it at the top of the lavalamp where its the coolest

[olive sable]

sure

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1461026561871577132.webp?size=48&name=EmiAlso&lossless=true

dumb

[unkempt citrus]

Up here and have it shine downards

[olive sable]

give me your email to send

[unkempt citrus]

this also means you only need a single powerful LED and itst awayy from the heat

[azure lynx]

but it would still get plenty hot. it's right next to hot liquid

and heat moves up

[unkempt citrus]

but wiring gets ugly

[azure lynx]

i thnk a few neopixels would be fine. i use them on some of my robots and they are super bright

[unkempt citrus]

It should be within operational temperature though at that point

The wax should be around 60-70 at the base

at the top cooler to just be within

[azure lynx]

you are doing a DIY thing so you can replace them when they die anyway

[unkempt citrus]

At the top you can also hide the wiring with some 3D printing too

[burnt marsh]

true.

id just like it to be as integrated as possible, and the space at the top is kinda zero and also the cap.

[azure lynx]

some lamps have a decorative top that just sits on top of the actual top of the lamp.

[unkempt citrus]

This is how the neuro lamp is too

[burnt marsh]

it has the top but the cap is crimped and not clear

[azure lynx]

so you could fit the electronics into a new decorative top

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1458912973526663352.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=doc_20260108_074827_M&lossless=true

[unkempt citrus]

The cap doesn't need to be clear because its shining downwards into the glass right

[olive sable]

[burnt marsh]

ill show you

this is the inside

[fiery anchor]

you also could print mini bat signal like lamps, put some strong leds in those and position some around the lamp, as a start.

[unkempt citrus]

If you could get a thermometer to measure the temperature of the inside while its on

Otherwise it is just a bottle cap on top, you could replace it with a clear one

[burnt marsh]

ill measure temps in a sec

[azure lynx]

i'm thinking outer ring with some LEDs pointing down and inward. make it fit around the crimped cap part

can be taller if you need to for electronics inside it, so then it sits on top if it

[unkempt citrus]

Otherwise yeah you could put it along there

[frozen hollow]

Bottle opener and drink the forbidden juice

Uhh then you have a wire running from the top?

[fiery anchor]

reverse health potion

[dusty nymph]

does anyone know what the best training format for a csv file is to train an ai

[unkempt citrus]

3D print a neuro and stuff the wires inside

[azure lynx]

run it with a battery?

[frozen hollow]

This should be easier

[unkempt citrus]

A button battery would work

[frozen hollow]

Brudda you need a li-ion cell for da esp3288 thingy

[azure lynx]

would need to be quite large coz you'll want it quite bright

[burnt marsh]

with a bright led?? button would not work

[frozen hollow]

And solder it to the 3.7 rail it all seems overly complicated

[azure lynx]

probably a 2S lipo

[unkempt citrus]

Thats true, wasn't considering the ESP

[burnt marsh]

esp can be powered seperately

it can sit outside in a box

[frozen hollow]

The esp can minimally power a couple LEDs but it is very minimal more for status lights

[burnt marsh]

leds need to be internal though

[azure lynx]

if it can sit outside the box then you still need a wire

[frozen hollow]

I’m sure you can get it working in the base

[azure lynx]

may as well do it with a power supply

[unkempt citrus]

The base concern is temperature

but otherwise it would be the cleaner option

[frozen hollow]

Even so

Must be a way

[unkempt citrus]

I guess you could give it a bit of insulation

[burnt marsh]

in the base is like

[azure lynx]

iirc vedal's first attempts with the manufacturers had temperature issues with electronics dying

[frozen hollow]

So it’s like a hot plate?

[burnt marsh]

i do remember that

[frozen hollow]

RIP to whoever smashed this

[hard delta]

oops #programming i think i accidentally flashed my letter store...

[frozen hollow]

Sacrificed the lamp

[unkempt citrus]

Induction coil yee

[hard delta]

why is there a white splash on the outlet thingy

did you paint it

[unkempt citrus]

Thats high but doable, you might want to let it run for a few hours to see if it stays at that temp

[frozen hollow]

Ts not mine

In the merch channel someone shattered it

[unkempt citrus]

The wax is white

[burnt marsh]

thats what im doing, also wrapping it in foil to simulate worse conditions

[frozen hollow]

How can it be induction

[hard delta]

lava lamp facts

i am learn

[frozen hollow]

If there’s no metal inside the lamp bottle

[unkempt citrus]

There is

[frozen hollow]

Isn’t it a ceramic resistive heater

[burnt marsh]

theres a coil

[azure lynx]

isn't it just the lamp itself that heats it?

[burnt marsh]

in the glass

[unkempt citrus]

For traditional Incandescent bulb powered ones yes, but because it uses LEDs it uses an induction coil instead

[frozen hollow]

Interesting

I mean.. they managed to get it into the bottle

[unkempt citrus]

It is basically just a spring

you just shove it through the top and poke it a bit with a stick until it settles

[frozen hollow]

This lamp endeavour gets increasingly complicated

[burnt marsh]

its even in incandesent lamps

mine has it

[unkempt citrus]

Okay temperature wise I can find LEDs that go up to 100C or even 135C really easily

temperature shouldn't be a problem for the base

[burnt marsh]

yes but are they affordable and colour changing?

[unkempt citrus]

I'mseeing as low as 14 cents each

though they tend to be more like a dollar for most

[burnt marsh]

okay do they change colours

[quasi furnace]

Is anyone well versed in cheat engine or have a basic understanding of it
Using it for ethical purposes

[warped narwhal]

I love trying to get 4 sticks of ram to work in old PCs, I got a optiplex 9020 and 4 sticks of 8gb, and the computer will only boot if the sticks are in a specific order. Swapping the sticks on the same channel will cause it not to work, swapping sticks across channels will cause it to not work. and I have absolutely no idea why

[sage crag]

[unkempt citrus]

Easily, the hard part is more about form factor than anything else honestly, cos most of these will require SMD soldering

[quasi furnace]

is it 2 2x8 kits?

[burnt marsh]

okay well im ass at soldering on a good day

and break things on a bad day

i might just shove a rgb strip in there and if it breaks just buy another

it seems to be hovering around 75

[unkempt citrus]

Thats a pretty cheap early test

if it breaks you can work on more durable solutions

[burnt marsh]

yeah

[rigid snow]

Using it for ethical purposes
there are no unethical purposes for it unless you're patching the fuck out of it to bypass ac

and even then, arguable

[unkempt citrus]

As long as you're not using it for an advantage in multiplayer or compettive situations, I dont think anyone gives a shit

[dusty nymph]

guys im making a brain for my ai but since i dont have an nvidea its going to take 12 hours

[burnt marsh]

also question, lava lamp wax replacements that arent 45 dollars?

[rigid snow]

shitpost or nah

[olive sable]

you can customize btop

less useless graphs, more gpu info

[quick condor]

What are you using?

[olive sable]

btop?

nixos?

[quick condor]

ahh im use to htop

[heavy pier]

Linux or Windows or MacOS?

I love this monitor(

[olive sable]

nixos

so linux i guess

[heavy pier]

Looks toooooooo good

[fiery anchor]

i'm not useless :( looks good though

[simple sky]

Racket/lisp is such a weird language lol. It’s a nice change of pace from Java or Python tho

[olive sable]

graphs, not graphics

[unkempt citrus]

He said less useless

[olive sable]

im a graphics dev, i don't need to see the graph of ram used over time

current ram used is the only needed info

[dusty nymph]

its gonna take 12 hours of me using my gpu at max power to make my ai's brain

[olive sable]

[frozen hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-pc-meme-matrix-codes-gif-16730883

[dusty nymph]

--- STARTING TRAINING ---
Step 0/4000 | Initializing...
Step 25/4000 | Loss: 10.1374 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:39:14
Step 50/4000 | Loss: 9.3805 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:33:55
Step 75/4000 | Loss: 8.6182 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:28:19
Step 100/4000 | Loss: 7.9592 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:23:38
Step 125/4000 | Loss: 7.5970 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:18:46
Step 150/4000 | Loss: 6.9965 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:14:22
Step 175/4000 | Loss: 6.7202 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:10:20

[quick condor]

Much more info than before

[fiery anchor]

MY EYES

[heavy pier]

Wireshark(

Just kidding(

[maiden geyser]

why are there so many sprouts

[olive sable]

you kill me

disgusting

[warped narwhal]

yup, 2 kits of hyperx and two teamgroup sticks

I've got it to boot with all 4, but it took about an hour to figure out the correct order

[dusty nymph]

is anyone here actually programing

[opaque sigil]

we don't do that here

[warped narwhal]

what's programming?

are we professional gamers?

[dusty nymph]

bruh

[heavy pier]

Actually I have a C-Language Test in 9:00

[amber fractal]

[dusty nymph]

cool

[heavy pier]

I'm 2nd-grade University Student(

Ai is hard

In mathematics

[warped narwhal]

what's the difference between malloc, alloca, realloc, calloc, and variable length arrays

[dusty nymph]

im going to grade 8 and rn im making an ai brain look
--- STARTING TRAINING ---
Step 0/4000 | Initializing...
Step 25/4000 | Loss: 10.1374 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:39:14
Step 50/4000 | Loss: 9.3805 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:33:55
Step 75/4000 | Loss: 8.6182 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:28:19
Step 100/4000 | Loss: 7.9592 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:23:38
Step 125/4000 | Loss: 7.5970 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:18:46
Step 150/4000 | Loss: 6.9965 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:14:22
Step 175/4000 | Loss: 6.7202 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:10:20
Step 200/4000 | Loss: 6.3430 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:05:47
Step 225/4000 | Loss: 6.1118 | LR: 0.001000 | ETA: 11:01:16

[fiery anchor]

witchcraft

[heavy pier]

No......I just don't what these in my test

It's hard to remember

But it's important

QwQ

[opaque sigil]

i don't think i've ever consciously used calloc

even though i probably should

[tender river]

its annoying because

[warped narwhal]

malloc = regular memory allocation
alloca = allocate on the stack
realloc = try to use the same pointer again if it fits, create a new allocation and copy over if it doesn't
calloc = malloc + memset to 0
variable length arrays are the same as alloca, but they only live for the lifetime of the block, alloca lives until the end of the function

[tender river]

interface differs from malloc

[opaque sigil]

does it?

tf

[tender river]

so i never remember which one is the object size and which one is the object count

[opaque sigil]

oh you're right

calloc is count

[tender river]

its funny that none of the allocation functions support alignment specification

[opaque sigil]

alignment is overrated

[warped narwhal]

just allocate more than you need and align manually

[heavy pier]

"Malloc" is the only one in my book,I have no idea about "calloc/realloc etc."

SAD.

[tender river]

realloc very useful

calloc - eh you can just malloc and memset

[warped narwhal]

alloca is good for short lived allocations as well

[fiery anchor]

dev of mine used alignment a few weeks ago in our codebase. first occurance in our codebase. not sure if it does anything though, considering the rest of the code.

[opaque sigil]

some instructions have hard alignment requirements

[tender river]

better to use vlas since standard

[opaque sigil]

vla extension (still use it)

[tender river]

vla c++ extension

vla c standard

[opaque sigil]

right

i forget

[heavy pier]

!

[tender river]

ye c++ not superset of c

[heavy pier]

My teacher call cpp is superset c actually(

What's the most different between c
& cpp?

[opaque sigil]

well your teacher is objectively wrong

[tender river]

its close enough to the truth

but not exactly right

mm biggest differences are

[fiery anchor]

in practice? namespaces maybe.

[tender river]

name mangling

ye

[opaque sigil]

[tender river]

but more importantly

c++ is just never written the way c is written

[warped narwhal]

templates, and all of the SIFNAE fuckery

[tender river]

different languages with different practices

anyway its not like huge incompatibilities, mostly small differences in what is standardized

[opaque sigil]

i guess the biggest difference is that the compiler is far stricter in c++ mode

[fiery anchor]

ye

[heavy pier]

Hmmmmmm
I have a bad program habit:
Mix c & cpp together to build program

[tender river]

wrr

[heavy pier]

And VScode report issues

"It's c-style balabala,you should balabala"

[heavy pier]

I see

[fiery anchor]

i mean, it's nice that a c dev can work on c++ code, and vice versa. if the boundaries are respected. but throw a overzealous junior c++ in the mix and everything is broken and nobody knows wtf is happening.

[hard delta]

brrr mashien go study

[heavy pier]

Another question is
Is "using namespace std" good? Or trash

[quick condor]

less cursed view

[hard delta]

those are not any regular ram sticks
those are exclusive zenless zone zero gacha sticks

[heavy pier]

Somebody told me that "Using namespace" is not good, and another told me is good for quick-development

I'm totally confused

[fiery anchor]

it depends.

[olive sable]

i dont use it cuz im lazy

[fiery anchor]

it's like importing stuff. you wanna limit it to exactly what you are using, with the least side effects possible.

[warped narwhal]

don't use it in a header and you'll probably be fine

use it in a header and your project will be fine for the moment

but will randomly explode in 3 weeks time

[heavy pier]

So
"using namespace XXX" definitely not a good idea?

[warped narwhal]

using namespace std;

[opaque sigil]

basically just don't put it in a header

[fiery anchor]

e.g. if you have a function that deals a lot with a different deeply nested namespace, that might be a case where you want to do it to make the code more readable.

[heavy pier]

i got it

[dusky crater]

namespace short = some::stupid::long::namespace::holy::please::stop

Will do the trick

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1459353564764835902/A5D6E55C-09FB-4941-B002-2F28164FCAC3.gif

[quick condor]

And thats what idle with the models loaded looks like on main pc

[olive sable]

in my opinion those graphs waste a lot of space

[quasi furnace]

Is anyone decently versed in cheat engine

Kovaak's is an aim trainer that basically is just clicking and tracking targets, since its so simple, many things can be omitted for better performance, so visual clutter and contrast are often optomized so people can see things easier and just player better. There are certain themes to improve such visuals, but the optimal themes also change from scenario to scenario.

I find it to be really annoying to press a few buttons to change the theme every time I switch scenarios so I want to automate it

I want to make a plugin to change the theme of Kovaak's FPSAimTrainer based on the scenario bc its a pain to do it each and every time

Themes are stores as JSON files and taken from the theme folder, and loaded/taken from the ram during runtime
I need to find which value would control the persistent selected theme since when selecting a theme it DOES change it temporarily for the preview but doesn't persist unless saved, so I the goal is to edit it with code based on the scenario

Its possible to change it through game files, but you would have to reload the whole game for it to work that way since the game does not interact with the theme files during runtime, which would be far from ideal LOL

As far as I know, the best way to find, and edit the memory values would be via Cheat Engine, which has filters and things that can be done to alter, and locate, exact addresses

Current issue is that too many values are changing or remaining unchanged when I manipulate the theme, or a variable apart from it, so I am not able to narrow down a small enough set of values so that I can go through each of them and see which specifically controls the saved theme. So I couldn't progress with that method

I was able to find the memory buffer of where the current theme was stored, and its Fstring struct pointer but the pointer scan didn't work w CE and I couldn't really progress with that method

[olive sable]

[quasi furnace]

💔

[quick condor]

I dont have other data im monitoring in wsl2

[olive sable]

a third of your screen is used by graphs of disk space

[frozen hollow]

Put it on your Apple Watch

[olive sable]

nobody needs to see disk usage over time

[simple sky]

Recursion in Racket/lisp is cool

Waow

[quick condor]

I have it on the DB server for IO demand. I dont have disks visible on the compute rig

[olive sable]

thats not even read or write tho

thats storage space

[quick condor]

Above Used is I/O

also monitoring storage space on a server is more useful than longer graph time for memory (which I honestly dont even need given the system has 768Gb)

[olive sable]

storage space sure, but over time seems excessive to me

[fiery anchor]

you can never have enough graphs

[olive sable]

you can tho

[opaque sigil]

never enough

[fiery anchor]

never

[olive sable]

i need the graphs i care about, and the other graphs are just a waste of screen rela-estate

[fiery anchor]

the issue aren't the graphs, it's your lack of screens.

[olive sable]

its actually the lack of DP on my gpu

but ye nah, useless graphs waste gpu and cpu performance

i need minimal amount to keep that 5 digit fps

[dusty nymph]

guys first ai i made logs
DeathScythe6666: hello yuki
Yuki: toilet,pict
DeathScythe6666: what is ur name
Yuki: INSTANT] | Speed:Beh Graveyard
DeathScythe6666: hello yuki
Yuki: toilet Firm sluggish clutchinganyahu Football Parent

[olive sable]

i think its undercooked

[fiery anchor]

[quick condor]

THIS IS A SSH TERMINAL

[jagged turtle]

[olive sable]

my point still stands

5 digit fps is microseconds territory

[opaque sigil]

man's bottlenecked by btop

[fiery anchor]

Round 2: Fight!

[fickle rain]

IDK what are you trying to do?

It’s a good reversing tool

I think you can run Lua in it too

[dusky jackal]

Wow, that sounds like my ideal girlfriend.

[dusty nymph]

what!!!!

[quick condor]

IDK id say using 23.4gb/24gb of vram would impact my fps more than monitoring an ssh session

[olive sable]

ideal girlfriend namedNSTANT] | Speed:Beh Graveyard

[fiery anchor]

shoudn't have used the brainrot memes dataset

[olive sable]

that's vram tho. that graph from before was showing system storage

[dusty nymph]

i used my discord group chat since 2024 but i have 10 hours left of training it

[quick condor]

Its just blank space in just IO mode. again this is a database server. Disk I/O and usage is kinda important

[olive sable]

dont admit to scraping discord

thats tos

[dusty nymph]

its my server

[olive sable]

still tos

[dusty nymph]

oh

[olive sable]

jsut say that you downloaded your own messages from the official discord "request my data"

[dusty nymph]

oh

[olive sable]

also you didnt hear this from me

[dusty nymph]

oh

[olive sable]

[jagged turtle]

monkaTOS

[hard delta]

neuro toilet #1 supporter

[quick condor]

@olive sable There is two systems being mapped:

1. Dell R640 (SQL/Vector Database Server)
2. Workstation (WSL2 running core models)
   both systems show cpu, ram and gpu utilization, only the server has the disk graphs (even that is just a small I/O graph + bar charts)

[olive sable]

first one makes sense to me

2nd one doesnt to me

[quick condor]

Why? second is doing tasks that spill into ram and I can monitor disk activity from windows better anyway

[olive sable]

idk

it feels like the actually important graphs are all smooshed into the top right corner

[burnt marsh]

its hovered here for awhile. led strip def fine at least for testing

now gotta replace the surf and wax which isnt cheap

soo.. thats probs last

but yippee neuro lava lamp diy is happening

[quick condor]

The first one has 72 cores the second only has 20. WSL doesnt get temp data on the cpu and that system is almost never cpu bound

[olive sable]

the 3 gpus tho

[quick condor]

has plenty of space on a 2k display (what its on) if I wasnt remote it would be on a 4k display

[real sierra]

@olive sable

[olive sable]

hi

[real sierra]

do you know anything about itch io

[olive sable]

yes

kinda

[real sierra]

would it be a good choice for hosting a hobby game

[olive sable]

ive been figuring it out as i go

[olive sable]

ye

[real sierra]

nice

[olive sable]

i think itch is the best one for hobby

cuz on steam you need to pay 100 bucks upfront

[silent cloak]

never used it for multiplayer uses but it was good for what my last job used it for

[olive sable]

we had a multiplayer game in the first jam

[amber fractal]

Man that was a fun time getting the bois together for that playtest

I know Sam was in that group and I was as well

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

I forgib the AI backgrounds due to the inanity of getting unity netcode working in a 3 day jam

[olive sable]

ye

the game was fun too

[amber fractal]

it was fun once the dev was on call and we started to screw around with the matches

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

game dev my beloved

[real sierra]

hmmm

I don't see anything right away about being able to make games private on itch

but I guess I can always price it as $10,000 and hand out free keys to people

[olive sable]

you can publish them as private or unlisted

or well

[real sierra]

oh perfect

[olive sable]

you can "not publish" them as private or unlisted i guess

[silent cloak]

kek

[real sierra]

the ultimate goal is to just control who gets access

[rigid snow]

[silent cloak]

no self hosting?

[real sierra]

wdym self hosting

[olive sable]

at the very bottom of the edit game page theres' this

[rigid snow]

just self host itch io obviously

[tender river]

self host steam

[real sierra]

[silent cloak]

create ur own auth api

top 10 most fun activities

[real sierra]

it's not so bad

people ask token provider for token

then they use token to get services

[silent cloak]

ive been doing it for the past day its not terrible but it isnt the most fun

[real sierra]

[silent cloak]

though its not including the rest of the backend api

[rigid snow]

can i say something

don't?

[real sierra]

if you include enough undefined behaviour in your code, it can't be reverse engineered

[rigid snow]

program working is ub

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/javascript-undefined-undefined-undefined-my-beloved-undefined-heart-locket-typescript-undefined-gif-7120495185284007187

[mossy fossil]

learn MySQL and make your login page... With PHP, MySQL and HTML (CSS Optional if you don't care about looks)

[rigid snow]

me in 2014:

[real sierra]

I hate CSS

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

css has the c which is pretty nice

the rest sucks

[tender river]

only cascading good

stylesheets bad

[rigid snow]

[real sierra]

[rigid snow]

are there any corpa enterprise whatever frontend devs who can explain why the fuck they invented and follow the BEM principle or whatever the hell it is throwing out the only nice and fun part of it

[mossy fossil]

tbh i prefer something that looks like shit but works over something that looks like an apple product that doesn't work at all

[rigid snow]

methodology

[mossy fossil]

that in the business is called "polishing a turd"

[tender river]

its because of the other principle that came before it

the no-fun principle

[rigid snow]

[young plover]

It works
https://godbolt.org/z/dM89vqqad

[rigid snow]

web components will do anything good

[young plover]

I hate shadow DOM when it screws up my adblock filter selectors.

[rigid snow]

you should

[silent cloak]

tailwind

[rigid snow]

sorry to inform you but

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

tailwind is just css in a nice candy wrapper

same bitter candy

but shiny

this analogy sucks

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-future-drake-life-is-good-high-off-life-gif-18160700

[rigid snow]

what i'm trying to get across is it's just different syntax

for the same thing

[silent cloak]

honestly its good enough for my average use

i just hate having to treat them like header files instead of having it inlined

so tailwind solves that for me

[rigid snow]

honestly one thing i can thank ai for is boosting tailwind adoption

[silent cloak]

its simply better in many cases

idk what alternative proposals there are out there currently

i dont web dev besides when I have to

[rigid snow]

you do not want to know what was and still kinda is the standard for "modern" frontends

styled-components and similar

[silent cloak]

honestly ive been enjoying astro since it was suggested in here

[rigid snow]

ye astro is based

[silent cloak]

i dont even use the front end packages with it

the one annoying thing with astro is how it screws up my linter a bit

beyond that its been great

[rigid snow]

if you're making an astro website in the first place there should not be a reason to

complexity low

[silent cloak]

i debated on solidjs for some project i was doing with it but i just said na

[real sierra]

c# events

[faint sandal]

programming

[tender river]

why is there

programming

in #programming

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1425866152424505394.png?size=160&name=ElvynSerius

[olive sable]

cuz i aint baking at 3am

[tender river]

im going to

spend 3 hours drawing in krita

just for that

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

these docs are so unclear

there's this wonderful "syncvar" component they offer to synchronize things between players automatically

but it's unclear if it synchronizes this variable between all instances of the same gameobject, or between all instances of the same component

i.e. if i have an entity script and i sync its health, will the same entity have the same health on all clients, or will all entities suddenly share one health value

[olive sable]

test it i guess

[real sierra]

i wish i didnt have to

so much testing the features of this library

ok it works as i hoped

saved

tho i guess this doesnt fix what im actually trying to solve

the hp bar needs to poll the server for the player's health, but doing this once a frame is apparently not doable via RPCs

so i need to find some other paradigm to keep it up-to-date

[desert wave]

all entities suddenly share one health value
wouldn't this be static?

[real sierra]

no

its a multiplayer game

when i say "share" i mean "replicate between clients"

https://purrnet.gitbook.io/docs/systems-and-modules/network-modules/sync-types/syncvar

it's clear that this offers some kind of convenient synchronization but it's not clear what is synchronized between

if i attach this script to multiple gameobjects, will the variables in all the scripts share a value?

or is it only synchronized between clients' instances of the same gameobject

[rigid snow]

but can you put it on a static field

[real sierra]

that wont fix anything tho

that just makes one static field per client

[rigid snow]

i’m not saying it will

[fleet jungle]

bootstrap crawled so other frameworks can walk

[rigid snow]

bootstrap is

pls don’t even bring it up it’s 2026 💔

[olive sable]

im getting so annoyed from cava

nothing i try to do works

[opaque sigil]

Have you considered this: RTFM

[olive sable]

nope

cuz thats not the problem

its what happens between cava and the waybar

cava doenst do markup for the colours in outputmode raw

so im manually adding it for waybar with a cursed .sh file

[rigid snow]

from reading the docs for 1 minute, syncvars are network modules, and those get initialized if the class that has these fields inherits NetworkIdentity which are synced by instance. this framework/lib is pretty involved i saw stuff about spawn packets and everything

[olive sable]

i have no clue what im doing, and the errors make me think gemini doesnt know either

[rigid snow]

this is quite something

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

pretty awk ward script

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

if yall know how to make this less bad be my guest

[opaque sigil]

I've never touched cava or waybar so good luck

[olive sable]

[silent cloak]

Man trying to get typescript eslint and frameworks all workint together can be such a pain in the ass sometimes

Mostly because I have very strict rules on typing

[opaque sigil]

eslint

[silent cloak]

I fucking hate their config rewrite

I know biome is the new shit but they dont fully support astro yet

Mostly due to typescript which I need

[real sierra]

sometimes i swear you guys are just making things up

"yeah i tried running the boople interpreter but i got an ExceptionInvalidShingle and it crashed... i think i wrote my shift handler wrong, any tips?"

[olive sable]

i think i fixed it by adding frame and bar delimiters

[silent cloak]

Dreamberd language

[olive sable]

most things in tech just have the dumbest names

[opaque sigil]

don't remind me

[silent cloak]

Me when the chudstack won't deploy so I have to check the slop logs

[amber fractal]

I have forgotten how stupid this is

[real sierra]

and then when you come to explain an issue

[opaque sigil]

https://github.com/scalacenter/bloop close enough

[real sierra]

and someone is like

[silent cloak]

You wish it was real everyday of your life

[real sierra]

"why wouldnt you just use (thing you've never heard of)"

and you're like "how do i do that?"

and the next words from their mouth are just air

[opaque sigil]

have you considered using a binary fuse filter

[real sierra]

like there's zero information in them

[amber fractal]

you are not wrong

[olive sable]

"i needed to enable CudaSupport to get Optix to work for faster cycles rendering" and the people in my class have no clue what the fuck im talking about

[silent cloak]

Trying to get advice from reddit vs stackoverflow

[amber fractal]

I am here for art not math

[olive sable]

well too bad, we have math exam in 5 hours

[real sierra]

480p video of a guy talking to you through notepad will always be the highest quality source of info

[silent cloak]

REAL

[amber fractal]

REAL

[silent cloak]

Wouldn't be here otherwise

[silent cloak]

We need more early 2000s styled tutorials

Using an ide like eclipse

Or a really old visual studio

[real sierra]

vi

[silent cloak]

Sublime

I remember sublime is how I did python

[opaque sigil]

btw sam if you need a bunch of cuda programs from nixpkgs there is the flox binary cache that tracks unstable at least

[silent cloak]

And most dynamic languages

[real sierra]

netbeans for java

pycharm for python

[opaque sigil]

sublime feels weird

it's too fast

[silent cloak]

Im talking a long time ago

I used eclipse, visual studio, and sublime

My three daily tools

[amber fractal]

Honestly, I'd boot up a win 7 vm just for notpad and edit it in

[olive sable]

ok i ifxed the cava stuff, now i need to fix these cpu and gpu reading being weird and inconsitent

[silent cloak]

I still plan on practicing vim more some time

But i need to settle ny irl situation

[azure lynx]

i'm guessing there is a copy/paste error for the temperatures where it's using the same 2 indices into an array

[real sierra]

i have data in too many places

i originally wanted the health to be part of the entity object like a good object oriented programmer

but player health needs to be serialized when they leave so it also lives in the data management script

but not every entity is a player

so idk where to put it

[opaque sigil]

when in doubt throw an array at it

[real sierra]

no wait

its fixable

the clients register their characters on creation

so i can bind an event to listen to changes in the health of those characters

and reflect them in the data manager

good job self

thank you self

[fleet jungle]

If you want an old-fashioned text editor that works in the CLI but like a desktop program, there's MS Edit

[olive sable]

suppsoedly amd doesnt do per core temperatures

it doesnt report them to the os i mean

so i wonder if the readings were also wrong on my old os

they were wrong, i jsut never noticed

thats crazy

[opaque sigil]

I think you get a couple temperatures per ccd and that's it

[olive sable]

you get highest per ccd

or avg maybe

since i have 2 i get 2 different readings over all the cores i guess

[opaque sigil]

[burnt marsh]

okay, i give up on the lava lamp. blocking the bulb to allow the led to shine into the globe just suffocates it, and its not gonna work.

the wax doesnt heat up enough with the cover

[quick condor]

could be worse, you could have more cores

[burnt marsh]

and i cant find a rgb lava lamp on amazon with the proper bottom shape.

[olive sable]

those seem to be acurate tho

the problem for mine is that they arent

[burnt marsh]

i see SO many uk listings but none for us. whyyyyy

[opaque sigil]

Clearly the solution is to buy a xeon

[olive sable]

why didnt i think of that

[icy compass]

Guys can smone gimme a place I can code bots for free on my tablet :P Or can smone help me set up uptime for my replit dsc bot

Uptime robot aint doing uts job

[olive sable]

fr tho if i get a new cpu ill get one with higher frequency, in terms of cores 16 are enough

most of the time when im waiting for something blender its some pesky single threaded task

[opaque sigil]

new cpu means ddr5

[amber fractal]

your only shot is termux to actually have things run, You will be sacing the tablet unless you rent a server. If you are on iPadOS then o7, no one can help you there.

[icy compass]

im on Samsung, android. Does that count?

[amber fractal]

That'll work

just not apple and your fine

[icy compass]

Alr. Dm, Ill need more specific instructions

[amber fractal]

I don't mind helping you in the chatroom but if you insist

[icy compass]

Yee

[amber fractal]

I can still ask general things before going into exacts

[icy compass]

Alr

[amber fractal]

So the goal is a discord bot that is already on replit to be elsewhere so you can do monitoring correct?

[icy compass]

I just want my bot to be running 24/7 but replit needs core to have your app running and uptime robot isnt working properly.

[amber fractal]

That makes perfect sense

[icy compass]

if I close replit my bot just shuts down and i gotta open it again

[amber fractal]

I'm aware of you having a tablet, do you happen to have anything else you don't use often?

[icy compass]

nah, just a tablet

Nuthin else

Not till i move out smtime in April

(Im using phython btw)

for the language

[amber fractal]

Makes sense, then yeah termux is the only good option here besides paying for server which if we had budget we'd not be here

[warm zealot]

be inspired by that copyparty guy with his termux + tmux + vim setup

[icy compass]

alr, ill figure it out thn. Thx

[amber fractal]

REAL

[icy compass]

Srry? Im still kinda new to coding

[amber fractal]

You'll need help setting up

you ain't just dealing with code

[amber fractal]

I only had the termux and nvim part, never got used to tmux

[warm zealot]

theres this guy who made a fileserver with a lot of the code being written on his phone on his way to work using termux (terminal for android) tmux (allows for multiple panels of terminal) and vim (text editor)

[warm zealot]

fairfair

ive started trying to use tmux

idk if ill ever use the split panes but having multiple windows is nice

i should work out what its actually called

[icy compass]

is there a yt tut on how to get setup?

[amber fractal]

That is called monocle

[icy compass]

Omg maybey i should stick to replit and wait till I can get core T^T

[amber fractal]

monocle is focusing on one window at a time in a stack

[warm zealot]

ohh makes sense

[amber fractal]

You get to learn these once your deep into alternate enviroments from floating

because of course I'm a Hyprland user

[warm zealot]

replit is a lot more user friendly then using termux so its probably a good idea just to stick to it for now

keep termux in mind though for when you have a few days to burn messing around with config files !!

and theres also the github one

which is based off vscode

[icy compass]

Ill try termux anyway. See if it works yk

[amber fractal]

I'm going to walk them through setup, would be nice to not worry about dealing with replit servers

[warm zealot]

fair

good luck setting stuff up !!

[olive sable]

i wonder if i should set my fan curve more aggressive

actually i should jsut buy more case fans in general

cpu is at 86C cuz im rendering stuff as a test

i know the temp  formatting works now atleast

[opaque sigil]

Depends on how fast those fans are spinning

If they're maxed out you kind of have a problem, if not then not

[olive sable]

i dont think they're maxxed out

idk how to check tho

[opaque sigil]

sensors should have that info I believe

[olive sable]

not available

prob need to install it first

[opaque sigil]

Oh yeah you need to let it detect the sensors first

[sick owl]

Kinda mad that path tracing even applies to those shitty sequin thingies

(Excuse the dull colours, I took the screenshot in HDR with RenoDX)

[olive sable]

its not like its gonna cost more

if those sequin things weren't there you would just get the stuff behind it pathtraced

[sick owl]

It just surprised me because they're such an odd hacky prop I didn't expect them to have proper material properties

[covert bane]

realllyyyy? ty!

[flint dome]

yes now take it back

im going to rob someone's else's letters now

[covert bane]

okay!

[flint dome]

also does someone here have experience with android and camera2 or camerax, how difficult is it to work with

[covert bane]

can I steal your R?

and trade it for my remaining S and C?

and L, I forgot about that L

[olive sable]

i have rerendered this old masterpiece. except in higher res now

also now av1 cuz blender has that apparently

anyways, temperature readings work correctly now

[craggy lark]

Shot in the dark question. I need to implement general solutions for CCDIK from scratch. Anyone able to point me a direction I can learn to do that?

[olive sable]

inverse kinematics?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWm77hrOZH4
something liek this i guess

[craggy lark]

Yes but like. I examples of translating it into code. Because I'm the wrong kind of engineer to do it on a machine.

[olive sable]

oh uh

https://github.com/ideatogame/CCDIK
this maybe?

[craggy lark]

Its better than what I've been able to find so far.

Thanks

[olive sable]

no problem

[fleet jungle]

ooh you've given me an idea

A phone is on 24/7, so is a server (for a bot or a website or anything). I can use my phone as a server

App runs in the background 👍

[amber fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-smol-small-ragey-gif-26398063

Rust

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

pydantic is failing to build as one does

@icy compass I'm going to be a bit while I have a wonderful time trying to debug this

[fickle rain]

Okay CAPE seems like a complete pain in the ass to setup

Maybe I should just ask for PC for chal hosting lol

[icy compass]

tbh Imma have dinner thn just play mc. Just mssg me instructions for later r tmrrw and ill msg u whn I ready for more

[amber fractal]

will do

[icy compass]

thx for th help

[amber fractal]

the more I look into this, the less I think I can pull this off.

I have one problematic dep after the next

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

groq package

why did you have to be so difficult

a fix works, time to see if that is the final one tho

I have a smol hunch it is compiling

surely my phone wouldn't just randomly heat up

plz do not take an hour

it is rust so uhhhh

It finished

the final dep is done

-# now to recall the exact commands so I can send them in dms

[real sierra]

i hope none of you ever see the password generator code

what i've done is a crime to cryptographers worldwide

[sage crag]

shshshshimo

[olive sable]

[real sierra]

it's only a little susceptible to a dictionary attack

[sage crag]

noted

[real sierra]

268k possible passwords

im sure that's enough

[sage crag]

thats like

1 second of bruteforce

[real sierra]

as long as nobody datamines the keyword table

its probably fine

[sage crag]

[prime ridge]

btop

[amber fractal]

"If this doesn't work I'm going to crash out"

[faint sandal]

[amber fractal]

Hi Azaka, nothing to see here

[olive sable]

[faint sandal]

[olive sable]

after way too much work, i think the waybar is error-free now

i also added the battery percentage of my headphones

ill probably add gpu uage percent someday too

but cant be bothered rn

need to do the css still too

aight, math exam now

bye

[jagged turtle]

[fleet jungle]

The way Vedal has set up Neuro's STT is pretty cool. Seems Neuro and Evil can recognize the owner of the words coming to them.

[autumn ore]

IM BAVK

BACK

[nocturne olive]

Well you just need to read the Discord username associated with the Discord voice connection, not like it has to be the STT doing it

[fleet jungle]

Ohh true that

I forgot they typically chat over discord call rather than discord then audio congretator then llm

[burnt oasis]

Imagine the nightmare of STT module trying to write down heated argument of 4 ppl about Nobbly Bobbly ice cream all from one sound source

So, yep, Discord API allows to split each person talking into different, 'clean' sound channel, for separated STT modules

[opaque wharf]

But why....

[visual pawn]

Will have to face that nightmare when it comes to irl streams that are a bit more impromptu than a meet and greet though

Or a one person's turn to talk to Neuro/Evil setup

Or just have them think everyone is Bao again

[quick condor]

It doesn't just "allow" it. Unless you were to combine the streams they are individual opus streams

[burnt oasis]

Nah, i mean setup where Neuro has as many STT recognition modules active as the number of ppl in the discord call.
So each person 'talks to' their own STT channel, has their own text generated and then those texts are just compiled into single speech log entry like

Crelly: I hate Pretzels!
Camilla: WTF is the Nobbly Bobbly?!?!?
Vedal: I'm just hungry, man, whatever.
CerberVT: Time to go to McNeuro's, wan!```

Unlike humans, Neuro is not limited to only one STT module active

Oh wait, you mean irl streams, i've missed that part...

My bad

[unkempt citrus]

With IRL streams they stil lhave multiple calls active

Just one video feed

[burnt oasis]

Well, yep, that might be a problem, unless each person has their own little mic on a collar like Layna

[quick condor]

They don't have to be compiled into one entry. That's actually counterproductive. She doesn't have to respond to every message but if you combine them into one turn it makes context confusing

[burnt oasis]

Well, that was just my speculation, how i see general llm's work loop, while i've never tried setting up one yet, so ye, i might be way far from how it works

[quick condor]

I mean I'm guessing as well but given Vedal has complained about the same headaches I've had to deal with regarding discord's api, chances are it's not much different

[burnt oasis]

It's just my idea that generally LLM's will not generate answer unless fed input text.

So in order to generate response, they should be fed an 'signal', input text. And combining multiple ppl speech into one entry shouldn't be a problem, in theory? 🤔

[quick condor]

It gets combined before sending the call but that's not always ideal, sometimes you may want to feed context in without a response

[burnt oasis]

And given LLMs probably have "latency" while generating response, feeding it combined text might be better that sending it several few lines separately, back to back

[quick condor]

Most of the handling occurs after STT and before the LLM call. You can feed it as one turn but you don't have to. It's sent as one call but multiple turns

[burnt oasis]

That will be able with custom advanced LLM, yep, agreed.

I just see llms as "input > blackbox processing > output" being synchronous and one-line channel, due to my lack of knowledge about how they actually work

[quick condor]

The model is just a small part of the stack

[burnt oasis]

But to have advanced llm that will be able to "input1 > starts processing > receives additional input2 > processes second input > gives response to both 1 and 2" is an interesting idea

[quick condor]

I mean you can do parallel processing but it causes issues

[burnt oasis]

I can imagine that would definitely not be good idea, yes..
If you show in the screen 0.5 second green circle and other 0.5 sec yellow square and you have 2 llms having 0.5 sec turns "seeing" the screen, one llm will only see green one and other will only see yellow one, overriding or having controversal facts saved to its own short term memory

[quick condor]

I mean I do run multiple modes (5 + STT/VTT in my stack) but that takes a lot to get working right

[burnt oasis]

Honestly, i have no idea how VTT works in puzzle games like The Witness...
Or KTaNE with those symbols...
Or We were here...

Like, to what extent it might be grasping important puzzle details and translating it into text?

It feels like it might require additional specially trained neural network for those

Or, like, having shown it 5 cat photos 1 by 1, then turning off photos and asking "which photo had cat with exactly 65 whiskers?"

[fleet jungle]

When you think about it, any language wrapper for the Discord API is an API for the API

why am I still a green leaf

[burnt oasis]

And Python is an API for C libraries

[fleet jungle]

Apparently there's CPython, which is one more C-related thing than what I thought was only just Cython

[nocturne olive]

Isn't CPython the default implementation?

[sage crag]

cpython is the reference implementation of python

[fleet jungle]

Oh so it is.

derp

[real sierra]

wrr?

phrr?

frrp?

[obsidian mantle]

shiro

[real sierra]

hi

[obsidian mantle]

[fleet jungle]

I was gonna say why not just keep it C then I realized I would've never become a programmer then

[real sierra]

ive finally hit the nightly bug that is just a little beyond what i'm willing to solve tonight

tomorrow problem

[obsidian mantle]

its 2pm

[real sierra]

hard to be sad about today tho

[sage crag]

shshshshiro

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1460031442292703556.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=autismu&lossless=true

[real sierra]

got health readouts added to every entity automatically

revamped the main menu for login and account creation

[sage crag]

shrrrr

[real sierra]

made sure all of that actually worked

[sage crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1425864339994312804.gif?size=160&name=ElvynNya&lossless=true

[real sierra]

konnnnnnnnnn

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/30000-usd-gif-13674633028161831364

[nocturne olive]

Shir programming

[real sierra]

fumoquest coming soon

[nocturne olive]

Sily

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154436961277313126.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=evilSlam&lossless=true

[nocturne olive]

[real sierra]

inventory broke right now

idk why

[nocturne olive]

Will it be Linux native?

[real sierra]

no clue

i have no idea what that would require

or even what software this needs to work in the first place

[nocturne olive]

Well it depends what you're writing with

[real sierra]

i know nothing about the build environment

its a unity project

[nocturne olive]

If you're using Unity, you will need to ensure your project uses Vulkan or OpenGL, and then it should be possible to pretty directly compile it for Linux
Unity is C#, and C# runs on Linux

C# is JIT compiled

[real sierra]

sure

[nocturne olive]

Kinda the reason C# Unity games are so easy to decompile

[real sierra]

not sure how to ensure my project uses one or either of those

but i didnt even know alternatives exist so

im sure it uses one of them by default

[nocturne olive]

DX is the Windows one

[real sierra]

When you enable Auto Graphics API for a platform (Windows/Mac/Linux), the Player build includes a set of built-in graphics APIs and uses the appropriate one at runtime to produce a best case scenario.

i dont have to worry about it at all

[nocturne olive]

Works for me

[sage crag]

you will have to worry about it

otherwise you wont be able to port fumoquest to my os

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1339513258532405328.gif?size=160&name=evil+AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA&lossless=true

[real sierra]

port wine to your os

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1461025580651909212.webp?size=48&name=tehe&lossless=true

[nocturne olive]

From what I've seen though you could've made your game much easier and more efficient on Godot

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1414971603594248192.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=classic&lossless=true

[nocturne olive]

But you've already started so don't bother rewriting

[real sierra]

game isnt even made yet and im already being told to start over

[rough bloom]

huge progress

[sage crag]

the most shill shill to ever shill

godot really is better for a lot of 2d projects though

[nocturne olive]

Eh, Godot just is really good for 2D

[real sierra]

godot is one of those things i've heard of but never actually knew what it was

never imagined it as a unity alternative

[sage crag]

godot is definitely more intuitive than unity in my opinion

[nocturne olive]

You already started so if you don't feel like you really want a 100MB sized game as a possibility you can just keep it Unity

[sage crag]

its not a unity alternative for most people

but it is an alternative as a game engine

[fervent jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-13062150862685254762

ralph cooking

[sage crag]

if you need to do anything 3d, godot is still behind unity and unreal, though for 2d i'd say godot is my favourite engine

well, aside from writing a simple engine yourself

[real sierra]

[nocturne olive]

It's a game engine
Its programming language is a lot like Python and it's extremely easy to use, lightweight and really good for 2D

[real sierra]

i see

[sage crag]

you can use pretty much any programming language with godot

[real sierra]

i rather like C# so far because it's like java

[sage crag]

including c#, rust, c

c++

java

etc

[real sierra]

[nocturne olive]

That too yeah

[sage crag]

it has bindings for all of them

[real sierra]

brainfuck

[sage crag]

sure

[real sierra]

hblang

[nocturne olive]

Godot is really cool

[sage crag]

if you wanted to

it would be trivial actually

[nocturne olive]

Open-source and has a ton of cool stuff

And it won't make an empty project be many GB big

[sage crag]

https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/scripting/gdextension/what_is_gdextension.html
it works via gdextension

[true hemlock]

my b760m is 100% fucked

[sage crag]

its a set of bindings you can use in pretty much any language

though, c# has its own first-class support

so you dont have to use gdextension for that

[nocturne olive]

There's even a Kotlin GDExtension setup

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1414971603594248192.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=classic&lossless=true

[nocturne olive]

Haven't used it but I believe I'll get to soon enough

[true hemlock]

swapped cpu between 13900 es and 13950hx es, swapped ram between 4x32 and 4x16 and i can confirm the memory traces is fucked because not only it can't even do 3600mt/s anymore, the 4x32 is so hard to boot off it

[sage crag]

https://github.com/DavidEichmann/godot-haskell-gdextension
want to write a game in haskell? sure you do

[fervent jolt]

i've tried ralphing godot before and some are good enough

[amber fractal]

:classic: shilling oss. But honestly I've heard good things about godot. I hear some people prefer it for game jams because it is faster to work with.

[burnt oasis]

I'd honestly tried to learn C, it've beaten me with its pointers and links, so... yeah

[sage crag]

godot is simpler than unity

in design, ease of use, and ease of exporting

it doesnt have as many features, you may consider it a drawback

especially when it comes to 3d

[nocturne olive]

It's really cool how they made the engine make such small single-file games
Literally one singular executable with an entire game in it, often not bigger than a few hundred MB because Godot is just that efficient

[sage crag]

a few hundred mb is still large for a standalone executable

iirc godot bundles the entire engine with its executables, its pretty funny

[real sierra]

im sure fumoquest is pretty small right now

[fervent jolt]

port that to godot

[nocturne olive]

Well export it and see how gigantic the actual export size is
Considering Unity it may be surprisingly big

[amber fractal]

Does anyone know if godot has functional 2d colliders

[nocturne olive]

Also a funny thing about Unity, it doesn't really do 2D
Your 2D scene in Unity is rendered as 3D, unlike in Godot which is actually 2D

[nocturne olive]

I believe it does have something like that

[sage crag]

godot has colliders and a few different kinds of physics body

kinematic, rigidbody, and static body, were the ones that existed when i used godot

there's probably a community extension for a softbody if you want

[rough bloom]

wasn't that about navigation? Unity does 2D collisions just fine
that said, Godot does have seem to have separate navigation specifically for 2D

[amber fractal]

I think it was nav yeah

[sage crag]

in that case, there is dedicated 2d pathfinding ye

[amber fractal]

Better than unity for including zero pathfinding at all

imagine not having even 3d pathfinding in a 3d engine

[rough bloom]

it does

it just doesn't really work for 2D, apparently

[real sierra]

gonna see if i can actually build this for linux and mac

[amber fractal]

yeah I misremembered the text, 2D required a github repo

[real sierra]

well that's not to bad at all

superbox had me super worried about the file size

but it's no larger than an image

[amber fractal]

I wait for audio

[real sierra]

oh right, audio...

[rough bloom]

ye, it was either the extra package or just applying all the workarounds manually

[rough bloom]

[real sierra]

im glad that i finally get to put my CPU to use

the windows build failed?

you're telling me the linux build worked but the windows build failed?

even tho im on windows?

[amber fractal]

does the project even work as is?

[real sierra]

[real sierra]

yeah i've tested it a bunch

[amber fractal]

That explains the SMOL as well

[real sierra]

nah the linux one didn't encounter an error

[amber fractal]

linux W

who's going to run the virus today?

[real sierra]

nobody lol

these aren't serious builds im just trying to learn the toolchain

i've read nothing on how to actually build unity projects for release so im just pushing buttons and seeing what happens

[amber fractal]

we surely need to make sure it runs on hardware

[real sierra]

mac build died too

[rough bloom]

I really don't think that Linux build worked properly either

[real sierra]

maybe the windows build did work and just lied?

looks like a build to me

what if i run..?

[rough bloom]

ye that's much closer to the expected size

[real sierra]

it works

"failed build" my ass

oh hold on

it's not responding

[rough bloom]

small game executable with huge UnityPlayer.dll next to it
you are not fitting Unity into 5 kB

[real sierra]

yum install unity

[sage crag]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1452045422074925066.png?size=160&name=MiyagiCat&lossless=true

[amber fractal]

you are also not shoving a fumo into 5kb

[rough bloom]

asset stored separately

[sage crag]

yum install fumo

[real sierra]

oh well

i have no clue why none of them worked or how to fix it

problem for later

[sage crag]

its because your game doesnt include yuri

unity detected this and failed to build

https://tenor.com/view/classic-ef-where-is-it-yuri-where-the-yuri-at-korone-gif-23665600

[true hemlock]

ahaha this is a mistake if you don't use liquid metal

[amber fractal]

I'm going to curse Sam with never having compile time errors

At least as long as I'm in the right headspace to write the script right

What's a girl band without some wholesome moments

[nocturne olive]

Are you so sure that that's all of it? You do need all the Unity files for it too like the Unity engine itself

[real sierra]

it's probably not all of it

[nocturne olive]

Well obviously it's not all, 5KB won't fit the Unity engine

5KB is gonna be like one class of the entire game

I wonder how many minutes it'd take to redo all you have so far in Unity but in Godot instead

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154436961277313126.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=evilSlam&lossless=true

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154436961277313126.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=evilSlam&lossless=true

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1154436961277313126.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=evilSlam&lossless=true

[rigid snow]

[rough bloom]