safe in what way
#programming
trim valve
obsidian mantle
Well the bot can check if the other user has bot too
And if not then it cant change their name
trim valve
nono
obsidian mantle
So trade is cancelled
obsidian mantle
Also you can always edit your pfp regardless
"i traded this nice car in my name from another server, you dont know them" 
trim valve
I mean its just a bit of fun so its not like being dishonest is impossible
obsidian mantle
Of course its not fun like that but
trim valve
if you want to ruin fun up to you
trading would work kinda funny in this setup
because you would only have perms to edit your own name
so all the bot would do is facilitate the actual organization side of it
obsidian mantle
Idk if I should sleep now its like an hour left till i have to wake up
Why dont we have a button to force sleep
Is melatonin good for health
I mean pills
quick condor
I'm starting to understand why Vedal struggles with the twins searching stuff on Google. A proper gate is a pita to get right since if it's too tight, PSE never fires, too lose and it always fires
quick condor
It's a nightmare
real sierra
im used to scripts having some degree of identity as libraries or modules but
this is definitely a bit much
nevertheless
objects are replicating properly
obsidian mantle
They have good wiki or database or how its called
real sierra
obsidian mantle
Everything is described
obsidian mantle
You just read what you need
real sierra
thats what im doing
obsidian mantle
If you don't know what you need you google it and someone had this question before probably
obsidian mantle
real sierra
having never used unity before today, there's simply too much to learn
but i will put this multiplayer rpg together 
obsidian mantle
quick condor
I love the performance gains that came from adding a thinking gate model but it's a bit annoying to remember to build both the basic pattern logic when it isn't available and the model logic
quick condor
This was a stupid test result to search for but it was funny when it finally workedI'm doing a fresh search for Vedal987 right now. Searching... Vedal987 is a Twitch streamer and developer. He's the creator of Neuro-sama, an AI-powered VTuber and chatbot. Based on the search results, he identifies as a professional turtle, developer, and level 5 certified hacker. His Twitch channel has been live for quite some time. Is that the information you were looking for?
sick owl
silent bolt
Hello World
glad path
https://gyazo.com/4975ddea07285ae33a44d05e842b7062.gif
nreueruo
amber fractal
If I recall my C correctly, null is a refrence to zero. So it'd need travel to the output just to see if it is zero. Someone else give something better
frozen hollow
why is a comparison to null expensive
Iirc it digs through the Unity.object to the native class underlying it through a custom implementation so it’s doing more than you expect. Whether this matters depends on how often you’re doing it (it’s probably fine but might be better structured to avoid anyway)
real sierra
oh yikes
amber fractal
If it is still an MMO then it makes sense
One of the major concerns after all is dealing with all of the networking. The other is dealing with overlapping player models and chat while remaining decently legable. IMO that is a tall task in a full 3d enviroment.
real sierra
Oh you're doing 2d
just wrote a simple camera chase script
i think it turned out well enough
olive sable
amber fractal
real sierra
splendid
it all works as i hoped
can have multiply independently-controlled fumos
and the client camera follows the right one
fumoquest will be grand
glad path
hearty notch
worthy niche
shiro i did not realize you were a programmer
this project looks absolutely beautiful
worthy niche
<:vedalYes:1343810738816417924>
what happened to your O
jagged turtle
can I have k
jagged turtle
what happened to your O
i took :D
worthy niche
but now they're CMD Teto
you have made them an abomination
and sure here's your
k
I am now the weirdest superhero ever
jagged turtle
get it guys? not? knot? ok I'll see myself out
olive sable
i wasnt paying attention but sure
loud salmon
bruh how
olive sable
pip install pygame is what you're supposed to type into the terminal to install it
then you jsut do import pygame in the actual code
loud salmon
yeh i gave up
olive sable
loud salmon
np after 2 years i will do more :3
silent cloak
python moment
loud salmon
python moment
java is hell
silent cloak
cap
loud salmon
theres a list i must memorizzzz
loud salmon
https://tenor.com/view/python-devs-developers-dev-developer-gif-1825854950474282...
meh
worthy niche
https://tenor.com/view/python-devs-developers-dev-developer-gif-1825854950474282...
If you think python is bad try scripting in Shortcuts
That's what I'm doing right now, I have a headache from how much I'm hitting my head against the wall
loud salmon
i asked him lol TwT
amber fractal
https://tenor.com/view/python-devs-developers-dev-developer-gif-1825854950474282...
As a mostly python dev I can confirm, we are very stupid 
loud salmon
As a mostly python dev I can confirm, we are very stupid <a:Minamhm:135209503523...
kindergarden
IS ANYONE USE C++
silent cloak
yes
loud salmon
AT NO WAY
silent cloak
How are you living rn
my doctors are still trying to figure that out
worthy niche
the only things i've programmed in aren't programming languages
amber fractal
I know zero C++ devs ||@olive sable||
olive sable
loud salmon
my doctors are still trying to figure that out
silent cloak
<a:NeuroPeek:1070663019316654202>
tf is that new name
worthy niche
cmd teto
silent cloak
most readable characters
loud salmon
the only things i've programmed in aren't programming languages
still in the surface, software and hardware dont dig deeper
int x = 10;
int* ptr = &x;
i cant sleep bc of this
Schools dont teach you none of that
worthy niche
I'm not sure if these all count as programming languages but I've made things in Shortcuts, Desmos, JavaScript (CodeHS version which is much simpler), Scratch, and Minecraft (console commands). Maybe I should learn something actually useful...
amber fractal
int x = 10;
int* ptr = &x;
i cant sleep bc of this
I sleep, this is easy. At least comapred to the type theory that happens here.
worthy niche
Scratch, and Minecraft (console commands). SOO FUN
Yeah I'm surprisingly good at commands, I kinda based my online identity around it lol
loud salmon
I sleep, this is easy. At least comapred to the type theory that happens here.
buddy are u having sleepy pills or inf caffeine
amber fractal
i realy enjoyed it
It only goes downhill from there 
worthy niche
anyway back to learning regex so i can make a discord tts bot in Shortcuts
loud salmon
It only goes downhill from there <:neuro7:1129322212265050204>
resting place before hard work starts
amber fractal
buddy are u having sleepy pills or inf caffeine
sleep pills keep me awake and caffine does nothing to me 
loud salmon
sleep pills keep me awake and caffine does nothing to me <:neuro3:10875214760700...
I have a question that keeps coming to mind: what happens in your stomach? Could it be chemical reactions?
amber fractal
I have a question that keeps coming to mind: what happens in your stomach? Could...
Mabe
clearly something, but also nothing because I is spirit
worthy niche
just stop
loud salmon
yeah
amber fractal
You know I was going to try and actually explain it but being as dense as a black hole isn't going to help
loud salmon
dc characters TTS 200 max tho
worthy niche
I'm using a shortcut to get the text from the discord website i have open, and using regex to get the usernames and messages from the mess of data
loud salmon
You know I was going to try and actually explain it but being as dense as a blac...
go ahed
worthy niche
im not using discord's built in tts
worthy niche
its fine you just misunderstood
amber fractal
Quick question, would you be grabbing off of the image contents in shortcuts or are you shifting through html in shortcuts?
Not an iPhone user so wouldn't know
worthy niche
Quick question, would you be grabbing off of the image contents in shortcuts or ...
I'm not really sure... I'm sharing the page to the shortcut via share sheet and getting the text from it. Not an image, not html, it's a lot like the web view but with a lot of whitespace and multiple timestamps in each message
loud salmon
grabbing from an image (OCR) Grabbing from HTML / text
worthy niche
I can show you what the shortcut sees this message as
loud salmon
You’re not “shifting through HTML” inside the Discord appDiscord app doesn’t expose that.
Discord bot webhook Shortcuts regex TTS. thats it
amber fractal
I can show you what the shortcut sees this message as
that'd be appreciated yeah, just curious about it
worthy niche
69 h ManNUROMemer — 10:48 PMSunday, January 11, 2026 at 10:48 PM I can show you what the shortcut sees this message as
you can't see it but there's 3 newlines after, then the next message and there's a tab before the message number
worthy niche
I'm trying to get everything between the message number and the triple newline
I can show more of the messages if that would help
amber fractal
I feel like if you tried to base on the time it would be more beneficial.
seems like that is one of the few static items that doesn't change length
rigid snow
happened to your name
jagged turtle
<a:WHAT:1293890244290019420> happened to your name
we did some trading
rigid snow
jagged turtle
i would ask for 1 n from you but then I realised that I can't really make much else without also needing 1 s
oh also we have "rules" now
here
someone is also working on a discord bot for this I think
yeah here
amber fractal
<a:WHAT:1293890244290019420> happened to your name
reconstruction of emojis from letters 
worthy niche
seems like that is one of the few static items that doesn't change length
Timestamp format is a bit different if the user messages multiple times in a row
like this
jagged turtle
reconstruction of emojis from letters <:enub:1163912230585237655>
what is your name even meant to be
ana int hammer think ani?
amber fractal
ana Int ban angy ani are the letters
jagged turtle
ah
amber fractal
I needed to ref my own profile because I knew I'd forget
jagged turtle
oh yeah you can put your current name meaning in your notes section
isn't visible to anyone else though so you need to remember to copy and paste it over
amber fractal
I was actually almost out of space doing just that
jagged turtle
lmao
worthy niche
So it is decently organized
things get complicated with replies or when someone chats multiple times in a row...
amber fractal
things get complicated with replies or when someone chats multiple times in a ro...
if this is anything to go off of, yeah it is quite the task
I can't yoink anything from this, this is just debugging the styling
worthy niche
if this is anything to go off of, yeah it is quite the task
I'm not using any sort of image recognition, shortcuts is just pulling text from the webpage
amber fractal
This isn't image recognition, this is just the android layout not even exclusive to discord but the entire OS
worthy niche
oh mb
amber fractal
so it is somewhat similar
except the actual extracting useful stuff out of it part
worthy niche
I copied some more complicated messages from the shortcut's output if you'd like to see them
amber fractal
Sure thing
worthy niche
it's a bit of a text wall but i've seen bigger so it should be fine
51
@ana 🔢🔨 🗯 aniseems like that is one of the few static items that doesn't change length
h ManNUROMemer — 11:00 PMSunday, January 11, 2026 at 11:00 PM
Timestamp format is a bit different if the user messages multiple times in a row
52 [11:00 PM] Sunday, January 11, 2026 at 11:00 PMlike this
worthy niche
Timestamp format is a bit different if the user messages multiple times in a row
its this message here
how the heck am i supposed to regex this
loud salmon
The masters of talismans
worthy niche
in fact why am i doing this to myself, i have no reason to be doing this other than the fact i have nothing better to do
amber fractal
The two constants I see are the tab char and the time format.
worthy niche
maybe im overcomplicating this, lemme try splitting by tabs
amber fractal
The two constants I see are the tab char and the time format.
because despite the followup messages so far, the content always starts after the second XX:XX XM instance starting from tab
amber fractal
144p vibe is real
worthy niche
i can see the individual pixels and i don't even have the image that big
beautiful
hearty notch
button
amber fractal
may we have a big red nuke button as a treat 
rigid snow
Button
real sierra
button 
obsidian mantle
Where have you been when we had gamejam
real sierra
no more button 
obsidian mantle
Oh right 
real sierra
Where have you been when we had gamejam
busy with life 
as always
real sierra
ive nevre really considered doing a game jam anyway
obsidian mantle
My camera is absolute garbage i need to change it
real sierra
i dont have the built up skills to make something in a short amount of time
amber fractal
I started making game too but its 3d
rigid snow
obsidian mantle
It really isnt hard in unity unless you want some aaa type graphics and models and all i think
amber fractal
real sierra
yeah i havent found it too hard
obsidian mantle
I made lightswitch in a house that controled the lamp and i was so happy
real sierra
i just have to make sure i dont get stuck in "uhhhhhhhhhhh" paralysis
99% of the time, things in unity work the way id expect them to
but i always hesitate because im not sure
amber fractal
It really isnt hard in unity unless you want some aaa type graphics and models a...
it also isn't hard unless your Sam and decide to build the 3d engine from scratch for the 3 day jam
obsidian mantle
Game engine from scratch is so crazy
real sierra
i might still have the old version of this game
maybe i can find some code from the engine
obsidian mantle
I am 100% sure it involves math i will never comprehend
Unless there is a step by step guide
Some vector mector shit
rigid snow
ok real talk the most fun i've had doing any game related programming is hacks
amber fractal
I've been helping with shaders for the engine
obsidian mantle
Oh yeah you need to make graphics system from scratch like wtf
real sierra
// DONT TOUCH IT, IT DRAWS THE BACKGROUND SOMEHOW AND I DONT KNOW HOW BUT IT WONT IF I TOUCH IT AGAIN
for (int x = -(cameraPos.x % TILE_REPEAT) + TILE_REPEAT * (-SIZE_MAX.width / (2*TILE_REPEAT)) - TILE_REPEAT; x <= -(cameraPos.x % TILE_REPEAT) + TILE_REPEAT * (SIZE_MAX.width / (2*TILE_REPEAT)); x+=TILE_REPEAT) {
for (int y = -(cameraPos.y % TILE_REPEAT) + TILE_REPEAT * (-SIZE_MAX.height / (2*TILE_REPEAT)) - TILE_REPEAT; y <= -(cameraPos.y % TILE_REPEAT) + TILE_REPEAT * (SIZE_MAX.height / (2*TILE_REPEAT)); y+=TILE_REPEAT) {
g2.drawImage(scaledOtherTextures.get("grass"), (x + SIZE_MAX.width / 2) * this.getWidth() / SIZE_MAX.width, (y + SIZE_MAX.height / 2) * this.getHeight() / SIZE_MAX.height, this);
//g2.drawImage(scaledOtherTextures.get("grass"), )
}
}
Are you einstein 
real sierra
worthy niche
maybe im overcomplicating this, lemme try splitting by tabs
that's all it took...
I just spent the last 3 hours learning regex when i could've just split by tab...
rigid snow
this blud is einstein
glad path
```java
// DONT TOUCH IT, IT DRAWS THE BACKGROUND SOMEHOW AND I DONT KNOW HOW BU...
hpppl looking codeblock
obsidian mantle
get("grass")
glad path
oh wait
amber fractal
get("grass")
glad path
nvm it has += immediately kills all hpppl vibes
amber fractal
I've had so more than one debate on how to handle grass in that engine
obsidian mantle
+= should be standard in every language
glad path
+= should be standard in every language
hpppl doesnt have it
and you cant access nested lists like list[0][0]
amber fractal
Gotta make the grass and place it well
glad path
you need to do
tmp = list[0];
PRINT(tmp[0]);
obsidian mantle
Reminds me of this language we use at work that doesnt have pointers in its standard
Because unsafe
glad path
Reminds me of this language we use at work that doesnt have pointers in its stan...
hpppl is both a nice and terrible language at once
obsidian mantle
Some IDEs implemented it anyway and it saved me like months of work
amber fractal
Because unsafe
Looks at the nearest iron water pipe
obsidian mantle
Ok not months but
real sierra
im having fun with c# so far
its like java but i didnt have to write the vector3 implementation myself
jagged turtle
```java
// DONT TOUCH IT, IT DRAWS THE BACKGROUND SOMEHOW AND I DONT KNOW HOW BU...
:Looking: :mhm: I understand this
obsidian mantle
I had hard time with quaternions in 3d
real sierra
ive never bothered with quaternions anytime ive made 3d engines
amber fractal
```java
// DONT TOUCH IT, IT DRAWS THE BACKGROUND SOMEHOW AND I DONT KNOW HOW BU...
@olive sable rendering code
glad path
shrio i highly recommend programming something complex in hpppl (doenload the hp prime emulator official from hpcalc.org or the official website)
real sierra
waste of my time to try and figure out how to code quaternions
so i just use cframes instead
intuitive ✅
glad path
its very painful
real sierra
easy to code with standard matrix ops ✅
easy to know what it is by looking at it ✅
cframes are just superior for hobby projects
obsidian mantle
Then i randomly multiplied vector on some bruteforced quaternion and it just worked
rigid snow
blah blah blah
real sierra
shrio i highly recommend programming something complex in hpppl (doenload the hp...
fumoquest is and will be rather simple for now
because i dont wanna break any of it
its miraculously working perfect on first try
rigid snow
Mmo in 2026 <:neurOMEGALUL:1097297318119743638>
amber fractal
I can't wait to playtest (I will be breaking out of bounds in at least 3 different ways)
obsidian mantle
amber fractal
My ego (no)
worthy niche
my headache
real sierra
h man, headache
amber fractal
triangle fps counter
rigid snow
when i talk to people that play mmos i like to tell them what my favorite mmorpg i used to play a ton is
gta online 
worthy niche
lol that's what it is now
i'm headache man, i have the power of constant migraines
jagged turtle
triangle fps counter
612k fps
rigid snow
vani 
amber fractal
vani spotted 
worthy niche
vani spotted <:neuroNOWAYING:1148961698099777638>
steal his v
patent walrus
oh, wait, i DO have something to say! fuck discord
jagged turtle
oh, wait, i DO have something to say! fuck discord
agreed, now can I have the i at the end of your name
patent walrus
sure why not
rigid snow
amber fractal
worthy niche
Van has joined the letterswap 
jagged turtle
real sierra
vani will you play my malware when its done
hard delta
rtx 5090
worthy niche
Van i can give you my h if you want it
amber fractal
Your mod status no longer protects you shiro 
hard delta
ddr5
patent walrus
vani will you play my malware when its done
sure why not
patent walrus
jagged turtle
Van i can give you my h if you want it
bro's desperately getting rid of the h so he can just be "Man"
worthy niche
man...
chilly night
How about g man...
amber fractal
Needs to find a g first tho
worthy niche
WAIT SOMEONE GIVE ME AN E
jagged turtle
somehow I don't have an e
patent walrus
if i somehow get an E and maybe a rare hyphen I could call myself Van-e
chilly night
I got no e unfortunately
amber fractal
don't have one here either
worthy niche
darn
amber fractal
if i somehow get an E and maybe a rare hyphen I could call myself Van-e
would shiro's ~ work?
worthy niche
im one letter away from he man
patent walrus
@real sierra let's make a deal
real sierra
nocturne olive
What happens here even
patent walrus
wait no, shiro loses all of his power if he loses the tilde
chilly night
What happens here even
Henlo
patent walrus
i can't do that to him
amber fractal
What happens here even
Vani has joined the letterswap
jagged turtle
What happens here even
superbox, can I take your o
worthy niche
What happens here even
Could I get your e?
chilly night
Superbx would go kinda hard
nocturne olive
I needs my letters for them brand identity guidelines
obsidian mantle
Wait so you can just give letter
worthy niche
I needs my letters for them *brand identity guidelines*
thats what they all say
patent walrus
@obsidian mantle it'd be funny if i got your i wouldn't it
worthy niche
Without taking anything
why not?
jagged turtle
Wait so you can just give letter
you can if you want
obsidian mantle
<@225287345824464896> it'd be funny if i got your `i` wouldn't it
Ok
patent walrus
there we go
jagged turtle
worthy niche
there we go
what
chilly night
VAIN
amber fractal
patent walrus
better spot for it isn't it
jagged turtle
I can't star anymore but someone send a screenshot to star
jagged turtle
nvm I'll do it
jagged turtle
How did u lose star privilege
my name says i may knot star
obsidian mantle
Someone take my t it will be better vt doesnt work well
It sounds like im vtuber
jagged turtle
Someone take my t it will be better vt doesnt work well
vtuber
patent walrus
i'll take your t
obsidian mantle
Agreed
chilly night
Vaint
patent walrus
does anyone have an apostrophe
chilly night
Ndhdhdhdjshs
amber fractal
Is it under emoji rules?
patent walrus
@prime heron aha heyyyyyy what's upppppp can i take that ' from your name
amber fractal
idk
loud salmon
any progress-?
jagged turtle
Is it under emoji rules?
I mean I define an emoji as something you can input either via win key + . on windows or using :emoji: syntax on discord
though it has to be ones you can actually type in
somehow
faint sandal
vani what are you doing
jagged turtle
azaka can I have an a
amber fractal
Letterswap
patent walrus
it's vaint to you
faint sandal
vain't
loud salmon
Is it under emoji rules?
who doues that..
nocturne olive
This is just pure chaos isn't it?
jagged turtle
This is just pure chaos isn't it?
worthy niche
This is just pure chaos isn't it?
GIVE ME YOUR E
amber fractal
I mean I define an emoji as something you can input either via win key + . on wi...
I mean I agree but there are really no other options
obsidian mantle
zaka
faint sandal
what the hell is happening here
patent walrus
mods aren't here so we're letterswapping
chilly night
what the hell is happening here
People swapping each other's letters
nocturne olive
GIVE ME YOUR E
My letters are mine
real sierra
it's vaint to you
you should swap until your name is vedal
jagged turtle
what the hell is happening here
I want one of the As in your name
chilly night
Ved
faint sandal
mods aren't here so we're letterswapping
mods
obsidian mantle
My letters are mine
stingy 
rigid snow
GIVE ME YOUR E
how badly do you want to get rid of your h
amber fractal
there are no mods here
real sierra
is it really impersonation? it's not even really your name, those letters are all on loan
faint sandal
azak
worthy niche
how badly do you want to get rid of your h
i kinda wanted to become he man but if you want my h...
faint sandal
azka
obsidian mantle
Someone strip vedal from his letters thay would be funny
faint sandal
zaka
patent walrus
how do i go from vaint to vedal????
v--a-
i need to get rid of my int and get ed and l...
rigid snow
i kinda wanted to become he man but if you want my h...
oh ok nvm then
obsidian mantle
how do i go from vaint to vedal????
v--a-
i need to get rid of my int and get ed...
Is that even legal
faint sandal
amber fractal
I gave away the letters that'd help
obsidian mantle
Nobody had that name besides him
rigid snow
l's are rare
faint sandal
you're not impersonating him
worthy niche
I gave away my whole name, why did i do that
faint sandal
you're just swapping letters around
obsidian mantle
oh wait we have rules i can't impersonate him
Change the rules
faint sandal
jagged turtle
you're just swapping letters around
👆
patent walrus
ladev.......
amber fractal
faint sandal
le dav
chilly night
Coldfish
obsidian mantle
Vadul
jagged turtle
mosquito987
jagged turtle
I mean I agree but there are really no other options
yeahhh
real sierra
i gotta stop working on the UI
nocturne olive
The silliness levels have reached an all-time-high
real sierra
its too easy and its becoming a coping mechanism to avoid the scary stuff
chilly night
i gotta stop working on the UI
What u making 
obsidian mantle
Start the multiplayer part 
worthy niche
I'm gonna get my brother in this discord just so i can take his letters
patent walrus
hey jolion are you participating in the swap? i'd love to give you my i for your l... i think you can even make that i uppercase so it looks like JoIion
patent shard
bro
how many options is YT going to add... stop, please
chilly night
hey jolion are you participating in the swap? i'd love to give you my `i` for yo...
I'm down
patent walrus
hell yeah
real sierra
What u making <:neuroHeart:1081683886767083631>
chilly night
https://gyazo.com/238fe432c5ce13f83347949e1244d591.gif
YOOOO NEUR GAME
obsidian mantle
bro
how many options is YT going to add... stop, please
I thought i have a hair on my phone
chilly night
Lit
obsidian mantle
obsidian mantle
Is it out of the box there
real sierra
i found a useful library
so its basically out of the box as long as i inherit correctly
the part im avoiding is making attacks and attack animations
chilly night
My name looks so silly now LOL
worthy niche
the part im avoiding is making attacks and attack animations
how do you animate a png of a fumo
patent walrus
it'd be JoIion not... that
nocturne olive
already works
And how's the latency compensation?
real sierra
And how's the latency compensation?
who knows
chilly night
<:ICANT:964717117071048774> it'd be JoIion not... that
Im on phone its hard to change it
rigid snow
And how's the latency compensation?
what lag comp it's not an fps or anything
real sierra
a bit hard to figure that out when both clients are on my pc
chilly night
I think i did it now
real sierra
the networking backend supports udp transport tho so it should be reasonably snappy
rigid snow
lag comp NOT important
obsidian mantle
a bit hard to figure that out when both clients are on my pc
Are you inviting us to join 
worthy niche
I swear if I can't get an e i'm just gonna take one from my bio
real sierra
Are you inviting us to join <:SMILE:1173553648534568960>
no 
not yet
nocturne olive
the networking backend supports udp transport tho so it should be reasonably sna...
Still Australians would probably be behind like 1/4th of a second
real sierra
i would need to figure out the ip configuration for remote clients
chilly night
I remember when I made a scuffed ass neuro game, absloute cinema
obsidian mantle
I hope attack value is stored locally
real sierra
and then probably set up tcpshield or something
obsidian mantle
How does the wire go from eu to Australia
jagged turtle
symbol converts:
- bang: !
- huh: ?
- apostrophe: '
- quote: "
- slash: / or \
- dash: -
- under: _
- nya: ~
- hash: #
- paren: ( or )
- and: &
- pipe: |
- percent: %
- dollar: $
- email: @
- angle: < or >
- period: .
- plus: +
- colon: :
- semi: ;
also since we're in #programming:
- array: [ or ]
- object: { or }
does anyone disagree?
jagged turtle
Still Australians would probably be behind like 1/4th of a second
I can test
obsidian mantle
Through america or through africa?
dusky crater
Still Australians would probably be behind like 1/4th of a second
That is the price we pay for being out in the middle of nowhere with god awful infrastructure and sharks biting the cables.
jagged turtle
(discord voice calls for me are 300ms alr)
jagged turtle
That is the price we pay for being out in the middle of nowhere with god awful i...
true
obsidian mantle
I know i have weird ping to japan despite being relatively close i assume it goes through america
worthy niche
symbol converts:
- bang: !
- huh: ?
- apostrophe: '
- quote: "
- slash: / or \
-...
what about apostrophe
amber fractal
symbol converts:
- bang: !
- huh: ?
- apostrophe: '
- quote: "
- slash: / or \
-...
- ! would be bang
due to emoji conversion
chilly night
That is the price we pay for being out in the middle of nowhere with god awful i...
Atleast the sharks look cute whilst doing it
rigid snow
I know i have weird ping to japan despite being relatively close i assume it goe...
how would that work 
jagged turtle
- ! would be bang
due to emoji conversion
ah
dusky crater
Atleast the sharks look cute whilst doing it
very true
obsidian mantle
how would that work <a:vedLOL:1459293836764512336>
Isnt there some wire through pacific
jagged turtle
what about apostrophe
idk, ig we just put apostrophe as the conversion word?
obsidian mantle
I have no clue i saw some map i think it was going the other way
rigid snow
Isnt there some wire through pacific
why would it be routed through america it just doesn't make any sense it's probably through china
dusky crater
```java
// DONT TOUCH IT, IT DRAWS THE BACKGROUND SOMEHOW AND I DONT KNOW HOW BU...
Oh god, is that how you're doing the 'infinite' scroll effect?
worthy niche
idk, ig we just put `apostrophe` as the conversion word?
good luck getting it then
also anyone with apostrophe can convert for a bunch of letters
jagged turtle
good luck getting it then
also anyone with apostrophe can convert for a bunch of...
yeahhhh that's the thing
amber fractal
Yeah
jagged turtle
sounds insanely unbalanced
worthy niche
Oh god, is that how you're doing the 'infinite' scroll effect?
give me your e
obsidian mantle
chilly night
Man I love going through old code and having comments being like "WHATEVER YOU DO DONT CHANGE THIS LINE" because I had no clue why it held the whole thing together
amber fractal
tbf they are rare in the wild and emojis can be minmaxed by new players so one time cost 
dusky crater
give me your e
Take it
obsidian mantle
Idk why but i assume its because Japan and China are not close friends
jagged turtle
tbf they are rare in the wild and emojis can be minmaxed by new players so one t...
Yeah true, we've only seen one person with an apostrphe here anyways
is that the final list for now?
obsidian mantle
And they have closed internet or some shit
amber fractal
any ideas on ?
rigid snow
that's undersea cables, there isn't really a sea in between
amber fractal
I'd personally accept huh
jagged turtle
what's the neuro emote for it (if it exists)
rigid snow
And they have closed internet or some shit
it works in a way that doesn't interfere
amber fractal
amber fractal
two examples ye
worthy niche
its neuroHuh so ye
chilly night
its neuroHuh so ye
Omg its heman
rigid snow
it works in a way that doesn't interfere
ours is very different tech wise but effectively the same, doesn't touch international traffic
obsidian mantle
worthy niche
Omg its heman
i've seen the show literally once years ago, i have no clue why i did this
chilly night
i've seen the show literally once years ago, i have no clue why i did this
Dw I never seen it but its still peak
real sierra
Oh god, is that how you're doing the 'infinite' scroll effect?
this is code from an old project
not the current one lol
real sierra
what im making now in unity is a remake of a 2023 project made in java
dusky crater
not the current one lol
Oh thank god haha
real sierra
I still need the o
worthy niche
I need to finish up here, I'm chatting on borrowed time...
chilly night
Unity gulp
real sierra
my letters are not for sale
jagged turtle
symbol converts:
- bang: !
- huh: ?
- apostrophe: '
- quote: "
- slash: / or \
-...
what about nya for ~
obsidian mantle
Imagine someone says happy birthday shiro but you actually arent shiro anymore you are shir or hiro or siro
jagged turtle
Imagine someone says happy birthday shiro but you actually arent shiro anymore y...
👆
amber fractal
Makes sense
jagged turtle
you won't have bday curse anymore
chilly night
Happy bday siro
obsidian mantle
And then they have to make new memes but then you change it back in a while
That would interfere so bad
chilly night
My website happybirthdayshiro ran out
worthy niche
Imagine someone says happy birthday shiro but you actually arent shiro anymore y...
they're not shiro they're shiro~
amber fractal
Let me deconstuct then, I can make some new symbols
jagged turtle
why are we taking this somewhat seriously
worthy niche
Its joever
it's neurover
obsidian mantle
Good you have a hammer for deconstruction
amber fractal
no more hammer 
worthy niche
I need to stop chatting, every minute is a minute less time i get to sleep
patent walrus
i realized not being Vani is bad for brand i might need to refund some letters
chilly night
i realized not being Vani is bad for brand i might need to refund some letters
Jdjdhfjaandnsn
"You look like vani"
WHOS GONNA TELL EM
amber fractal
Best of luck
obsidian mantle
But you have signature pfp
woven coralBOT
vanyilla
jagged turtle
yeah so apostrophe, parenthesis and ampersand are pretty huge conversions rn
chilly night
That is top tier
jagged turtle
do I just change ampersand to and?
amber fractal
do I just change ampersand to and?
also paren would make sense
jagged turtle
oh trueeee
rigid snow
ours is very different tech wise but effectively the same, doesn't touch interna...
gfw is a couple of centralized servers that receive a copy of some packets and drop the connection if it's not to an allowed ip range or type of traffic, ours - colloquially "digital iron curtain" - is many many dpi boxes on the isp level, "serving" (
) maybe 50k people at a time at most
real sierra
ok thats enough fumoquest work for tonight
patent walrus
fumoquest? promote ahh sounding project
real sierra
the 2023 version was called fire water i think
jagged turtle
classic
real sierra
fumoquest has a better ring to it
obsidian mantle
Its neuro themed i think it's allowed
real sierra
i like the "questing" implication
jagged turtle
symbol converts:
- bang: !
- huh: ?
- apostrophe: '
- quote: "
- slash: / or \
-...
oh btw for the uh
real sierra
really makes it feel adventurous
jagged turtle
ones in brackets
molten coyote
hello?
jagged turtle
idk if I should make them either of and/or
obsidian mantle
real sierra
you can play as either neuro or evil fumo 
patent walrus
may both sides of your pillow be cold shiro
i wanna keep wokring on it tho
molten coyote
it's true , so cold
humble sand
sleep wel shiro, happy birthday
amber fractal
@patent walrus I can offer a ~ if you want to grab an e
inner pike
may both sides of your pillow be cold shiro
what did shiro do this time
jagged turtle
was that pre-update ~
amber fractal
was that pre-update ~
post, it is nya
jagged turtle
where's the e
patent walrus
there's no e in nya 
inner pike
nyae
jagged turtle
404 e not found
amber fractal
I was just saying if you wanted to do Van~e you could do that if you find an e
chilly night
man shiro making me wanna pick up unreal engine again
grr
i only just freshly wiped my whole pc
amber fractal
Here is your ~
jagged turtle
who has an e that can be taken from 
patent walrus
i need to get rid of this lt 
amber fractal
@worthy niche are you alive
jagged turtle
it's The Man™
amber fractal
Where is an e user that is online
stray dragon
@lyric crypt
patent walrus
they're offline u couldnt even get that right....
jagged turtle
Where is an `e` user that is online
maybe ask this guy he might let you
stray dragon
they're offline u couldnt even get that right....
my bad. .. ...... .
chilly night
<@1166150846271205407>
you can't possible take the single letter of someone..
jagged turtle
no you can't
patent walrus
my bad. .. ...... .
this fella has one letter in their name can they call uno???
amber fractal
you'd have to swap
chilly night
Vdal
amber fractal
e user typing
molten coyote
jagged turtle
<:evilLightbulbJuice:1234108089511186442>
oh wait
chilly night
Phonix
jagged turtle
@/Van~lt you can take from this person
chilly night
i think borrow is a nicer word
jagged turtle
what's the term to borrow without giving back
amber fractal
borrow without returning
patent walrus
heyyyy joIion you want your l back?
chilly night
sure i'll happily take it
molten coyote
patent walrus
forced
stray dragon
no i'm the source of the letter t
chilly night
no i'm the source of the letter t
this guy is the T spawner
stray dragon
where do you think your t's come from
obsidian mantle
Idk i have no t
patent walrus
hey t do you have a return policy
stray dragon
yes
patent walrus
can i return my t
stray dragon
sure
patent walrus
a return to normalcy
obsidian mantle
Wan
amber fractal
It's tough to make names while dealing with trading
obsidian mantle
Wanwan
chilly night
wan wan
amber fractal
nocturne olive
Silly chaos
chilly night
we love sillyness during neurodrought round 3
stray dragon
5000 MHz memory is possible now but i don't think i can do 5200, it crashed partway through training like that and reverted to 3600
oh well
chilly night
its really annoying how the PC always switches back to lower memory after faulty crashes
stray dragon
guess i stability test 5000 now with 1.25V SoC voltage
chilly night
nobody got time for re-enabling it every time
stray dragon
its really annoying how the PC always switches back to lower memory after faulty...
i'm glad because it was either resetting the memory speed or shorting the cmos battery
chilly night
i'm glad because it was either resetting the memory speed or shorting the cmos b...
true
it does happen for a good reason
but still annoying
:sob
olive sable
neurosama fan spotted at exam
stray dragon
5000 and running stable right now
chilly night
<:neuroPoint:1397710568739307540> neurosama fan spotted at exam
YOOOO this is huge
stray dragon
but still annoying
never had it reset like that before though
patent walrus
<:neuroPoint:1397710568739307540> neurosama fan spotted at exam
a fan? IRL??? wtf
stray dragon
idk how it's annoying
stray dragon
also the bios seems to think these sticks are DDR5-4800 instead of the listed DDR5-5200 on the sticks themselves so idk if that's me getting scammed by g.skill or what
nocturne olive
also the bios seems to think these sticks are DDR5-4800 instead of the listed DD...
4 sticks on AMD?
stray dragon
yep
nocturne olive
Expected result
nocturne olive
That's like the known second-worst-case
Worst-case is mixed kits 4 sticks AMD
By the way if you're testing stability I recommend watching some Twitch stream, somehow Twitch can catch really subtle instabilities in only about a day
stray dragon
i'll just use my setup as usual for a week to test stability
molten coyote
RAM prices have been going up quite a bit lately.
stray dragon
surely 4 minecraft servers + 1600 browser tabs + occasional OCCT tests + 7 days of uptime should be able to test it well enough
amber fractal
RAM prices have been going up quite a bit lately.
a bit is carrying hard here
nocturne olive
i'll just use my setup as usual for a week to test stability
That won't do, the subtle instability I was getting from my overclocks would only appear once a month at most, except with Twitch which could catch it in a day
stray dragon
That won't do, the subtle instability I was getting from my overclocks would onl...
my previous instability issue would always happen within 5 days usually
often within 3
nocturne olive
That's crazy
amber fractal
I think for those keeping track is it 2x or nearing 3x price?
nocturne olive
I think Xoda saw some kit be like 5x the price
stray dragon
yeah keeping default SoC voltage is not good for 4 sticks ddr5 + amd
molten coyote
i think 2.5x
stray dragon
I think for those keeping track is it 2x or nearing 3x price?
it's 3-5x for most
hollow matrix
jesus the ram in my pc is worth like 400 dollars 😭
amber fractal
it's 3-5x for most
man I'm behind on this
stray dragon
i'd say 4x is normal
molten coyote
It's literally worth more than gold at this point.
amber fractal
my brain is at 2 months ago
amber fractal
It's literally worth more than gold at this point.
maybe
it is over silver
but not quite sure gold yet
has been a bit, so let's check for stick prices once again
molten coyote
Oh wait, I forgot gold prices skyrocketed too. My brain was still stuck on prices from years ago!
stray dragon
going up again
stray dragon
2oz so halfway to gold by weight
what can even run that stick wtf
nocturne olive
what can even run that stick wtf
Probably a Threadripper or Epyc
It is ECC memory so that would make sense
molten coyote
czy
amber fractal
actually, is the extra 0.9oz from the metal packaging <:hmm:1303107376295186524>
even if so, isn't gold level yet
jagged turtle
btw I changed balancing for all brackets, now you only get one per word (so paren only lets you get either ( or ) now)
amber fractal
90% of the way there but not gold by weight
proud wagon
256g single stick is crazy
proud wagon
i
stray dragon
Probably a Threadripper or Epyc
oh
proud wagon
did not recognize you at all
stray dragon
i see
proud wagon
my discord is in compact mode so i dont see avatar in msg history
jagged turtle
proud wagon
only whos typing
amber fractal
jagged turtle
it just occured to me that might be an issue
hard delta
typeless
amber fractal
you do actually have the letters for ktrain
jagged turtle
I do
proud wagon
wtf is this automod
jagged turtle
what automod?
amber fractal
I see what happened here
proud wagon
i tried to abbrev 4 channel and it automodded me
patent walrus
lol
amber fractal
patent walrus
scunthorpe moment
hard delta
lmao
proud wagon
i startled mod team
hard delta
i never ran into that one, dodged before it ever shot at me
stray dragon
isnt tr only 4cchannel
7980x is 4 channel
proud wagon
src: im using tr pro because of that
there is indeed raid1-like mem config
for extra memory safety
amber fractal
I would have just done it for speed
someone's doing a in memory table somewhere that'd benfit
proud wagon
idk if that speeds up reading by reading from 2 modules at once
probably not because thats not the design goal
amber fractal
Could fetch multipule items as long as the bus doesn't jam, but not happening if it wasn't accounted for
proud wagon
oh and btw there is really not many tr / tr pro motherboards, and the most you can have is 8 slots for 8 channels
molten coyote
wow, favorite
proud wagon
you cant even use 2dpc on tr pro because no mb vendor provides the option
rigid snow
i am going parts shopping with a buddy today
i'm gonna watch him drop a fortune on ram 
proud wagon
and ssd price supposedly is going up fast soon (from unreliable src)
proud wagon
not fast
stray dragon
and ssd price supposedly is going up fast soon (from unreliable src)
not so unreliable
rigid snow
yes fast
proud wagon
oh nvm i havent checked it since new year
rigid snow
it has already went up
gone up
proud wagon
so its arlready started
stray dragon
prices up 60% in 3 months kinda fast
stray dragon
62c idle probably not good though, i reseat with new paste later today
stray dragon
i have discord open
i have 2 browsers open
i have 4 minecraft servers open
this is usual idle for my pc
proud wagon
well i guess 62 is probably explainable then
as long as its not throttling its fine for me now
stray dragon
was getting up to 70 before restart with 40% fan power
stray dragon
usual idle
yes
rigid snow
stray dragon
why would i close them
rigid snow
why 4 of them
stray dragon
different modpacks
rigid snow
why on your pc is the more important question i feel
jagged turtle
also I put the letterswap rules on my github for the sake of not having to deal with discord search
stray dragon
why on your pc is the more important question i feel
because cheap
rigid snow
github
stray dragon
modded mc very laggy in some packs, can easily get up to 50ms/t limit and start to lag
proud wagon
(so what is this letterswap thing)
jagged turtle
github <a:vedLOL:1459293836764512336>
sorry I just can't be bothered to push it to my gitlab
stray dragon
renting a server to do that would be dumb because to get anything with a proper single-thread cpu speed it's some crazy premium option
jagged turtle
(so what is this letterswap thing)
rigid snow
that's why you have your own
stray dragon
and even then it's like a 7000 series ryzen
rigid snow
not rent
rigid snow
pc not server
stray dragon
they run on my pc
rigid snow
dum
rigid snow
proud wagon
my non-github solution (and what swarm fm uses) is forgejo, idk if gitlab might work better feature-wise
jagged turtle
my non-github solution (and what swarm fm uses) is forgejo, idk if gitlab might ...
probably not but like
idrc
proud wagon
mainly ci support i guess
ebon basin
Any project , motiation ?, Project motivations?
stray dragon
recent desktop cpus are the only real option if i want high-speed single-thread performance, and i don't have too much spending money
jagged turtle
what is motiation
proud wagon
forgejo is too "free" so there is no official support for win and mac ci runner
stray dragon
would either have weak ass desktop and beefy server or just one beefy desktop that i also use as server
jagged turtle
forgejo is too "free" so there is no official support for win and mac ci runner
why am I not surprised
stray dragon
it runs proxmox so i can have multiple VMs going
ebon basin
ups motivation
proud wagon
[this, though idk how to deal with letters other than those in the english alpha...
i guess cjk would be hard then
too few graphemes
jagged turtle
i guess cjk would be hard then
wdym cjk
proud wagon
chinese japanese korean
ebon basin
I worked on my Minecaft Agent but I don't want to debug it anymore , Transfering and fixing my chess AI would be another topic I guess or another try on Neuros ONI mod where I try to pin the errands again
jagged turtle
chinese japanese korean
ah yeah
molten coyote
sage crag
fleet jungle
Hypothetically speaking, if a robot with many complicated internal ICs at the scale of individual softwares/operating systems were a thing, would it likely require a connector as dense as a display port/HDMI? Or will a standard ultraspeed USB type-C do? 🤔
shadow sinew
Hypothetically speaking, if a robot with many complicated internal ICs at the sc...
Well that depends more on the requirements for communication between the individual components.
fleet jungle
Though I guess that might be redundant since type-C uses many pins itself anyway
fleet jungle
Well that depends more on the requirements for communication between the individ...
True
Guess they could cross-interface anyway
shadow sinew
The ICs could talk over an internal network connection. There's also industry bus standards for things like that.
Like CAN for automotive
fleet jungle
True
obsidian mantle
The CAN i know is super old and slow
fleet jungle
I wonder what kind of messed up scenario would require a more complicated external communication connector.
I guess if the goal is for the internals to be independent of each other, but still requiring communication from an external source. Maybe.
prime portal
Hyy programmers sorry for the intrusion.
I have gift for you (:
Hope you enjoy and cheer you up after so many no neuro days ):
Here we go !!!!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/742552073584902294/1460160086914895995/image-820.png
trim valve
Hypothetically speaking, if a robot with many complicated internal ICs at the sc...
in some sectors you get connectors like this
the issue with usb c, hdmi, etc. is probably vibrations
jagged turtle
<a:doc_20260108_074827_L:1458912997606166548><a:doc_20260108_074827_M:1458912973...
lmao
fleet jungle
in some sectors you get connectors like this
Where's a gif of someone shaking with shock when I need one
That stuff is nightmare material...
Imagine resoldering a loose cable
trim valve
iirc for a lot of stuff you use crimps instead of soldering but idr where I heard that
also if you want real pain then look at
hard delta
Hyy programmers sorry for the intrusion.
I have gift for you (:
<:neuroHeart:108...
hi filian
trim valve
sounds fun to solder
trim valve
surely
hard delta
I am not fillian but hiii
how do you know for sure 
prime portal
_how do you know for sure_ <:vedalMagnify:1343810736048308274>
I am fillian ?
No way!!!!
fleet jungle
I have decided I'm not too excited by the concept of soldering ICs anymore :))
hard delta
great decision
warped narwhal
I have decided I'm not too excited by the concept of soldering ICs anymore :))
But the ICs won't solder themselves 
prime portal
_how do you know for sure_ <:vedalMagnify:1343810736048308274>
In the day I am Italian boy
In the night I am Filipino vtuber fillian
Call me :Absolute boy faillure /J
I stop have fan programming
fleet jungle
Spiderchip, spiderchip. Does whatever a spiderchip can
Does it walk to the tune of stayin alive tho?
fleet jungle
Hypothetically speaking, if a robot with many complicated internal ICs at the sc...
Ah, my initial question was ignited by seeing the art here: https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1460023332836606074 Very cool idea
stray dragon
why is it so wet
fleet jungle
Considering how many videos I see of people absolutely dousing their entire pcbs with obnoxious amounts of flux, I'd say that doesn't look too bad.
Those are supposed to be soldering guide videos, too
fleet jungle
It is. I might have used it rather too sparingly, since I frequently have trouble attaching solder material to wires.
trim valve
I had that whole chip basically swimming in it lol
fleet jungle
Oh.
silent flare
jesus the ram in my pc is worth like 400 dollars 😭
vedal buying rams thats why prices rising
chilly night
vedal buying rams thats why prices rising
i will sacrifice my ram for neur
silent flare
does he own a server for neuro?
chilly night
he does utilise cloud computing as far as i know
reaching the level of things she can do at her latency wouldn't be feasible on a single consumer pc
olive sable
a fan? IRL??? wtf
Ye
At the C# programming exam
Which i aced btw
90% on the theory exam 
cosmic sphinx
that's crazy, that's actually crazy
olive sable
Since they're a programmer they might even be here 
opaque sigil
sage crag
olive sable
Hi konii 
true hemlock
she has the r get her
olive sable
I dont need any more r for now
true hemlock
_how do you know for sure_ <:vedalMagnify:1343810736048308274>
i need your Z 
hard delta
i need your credit card details
true hemlock
xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xx/xx xxx
just ai generate it
