programming

[glass flower]

the : is also gonna be difficult

its a key up-right from its previous position

[olive sable]

[glass flower]

[tender river]

oh also its very comfy to me one of the comfiest languages out of the ones i use actually

you just arent used to functional languages, also my code is dense in general regardless of the language

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-snoopa-lord-foog-dog-funny-gif-20125052

[opaque sigil]

are there any other dotnet languages than c# and f# actually

[tender river]

ye

[sage crag]

ye

[tender river]

visual basic

[sage crag]

rust

[tender river]

ye

c++

[opaque sigil]

[glass flower]

what does F# support? like can i use it in unity/godot?

[sage crag]

anything c# support in principle

[glass flower]

since i assume it just compiles to a dotnet assemblz right?

[cloud rivet]

Oh, something's going on here.

What are we talking about?

[tender river]

you can use it anywhere you use c# ye

[glass flower]

[tender river]

interoperates with c# code freely too

[olive sable]

[cloud rivet]

F# Is this an extension?

[tender river]

it is a note

[cloud rivet]

How to type script from Java script

[cloud rivet]

I just don't know how to express myself correctly.

[glass flower]

javascript is just typescript without types

[tender river]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_Sharp_(programming_language)

[sage crag]

f sharp is

[cloud rivet]

yes

[glass flower]

could i use both in a single project?

[cloud rivet]

I just heard something about fsharp

[sage crag]

ye

[sage crag]

javascript is typed language

[tender river]

ye

[fickle rain]

https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-pokemon-platinum
https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-cyberpunk
Pokemon and CP77

[tender river]

probably have to use multiple assemblies

[glass flower]

thats what i meant. as in a single csproj

[tender river]

fs uses fsproj

[glass flower]

[cloud rivet]

Guys, I'm learning C#. Wish me luck. Do you think I can learn it if I already know TypeScript and Python?

[glass flower]

[tender river]

yes, you can learn it even if you didnt know typescript and python

[sage crag]

you can even learn how to make a sandwich if you didnt learn typescript or python

for doughnuts you may need one of typescript or python though

[glass flower]

i guess i could try to learn F# a bit and see if i like it...

[tender river]

its a language that allows you to write it the exact same way you would c#

well, mostly, since it discourages mutually recursive definitions

[cloud rivet]

It is said that it is a simple programming language, compared to its predecessors such as Java, C++, and the syntax is also similar.

[tender river]

simpler than c++ but about same as java

[glass flower]

we`ll see

[cloud rivet]

As a JavaScript programmer, I can confirm this. But you'll also need knowledge of CSS and HTML to make the donut more beautiful and structured.

[tender river]

basically, you can just chug a c# class into chatgpt and tell it to convert it to idiomatic f#

it will most likely succeed

[glass flower]

[sage crag]

no i can confirm as someone who have made doughnut

[glass flower]

i don`t like doing that unless i understand what is happening

[sage crag]

to get correct structure you need

oil

[obsidian mantle]

what is a "donut" here?

[cloud rivet]

It's so strange to read another user recommending AI-based methods. Because in my community, whenever I mention AI, I'll be literally devoured for using that word, because it takes away work and so on. Nonsense.

[cloud rivet]

In short, we both confirm this

[tender river]

ye ye my point is just that f# has more to offer than c#

[tender river]

i didnt recommend it

[glass flower]

i`ll be the judge of that

[tender river]

i said you can

[cloud rivet]

Yes, I understand that. I'm just saying that it's pointless to talk about AI in this way.

[sage crag]

i reject your mutual agreement

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1138690372386701332.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=vedalPuppet

[cloud rivet]

Let it be so

[obsidian mantle]

is this donut

[sage crag]

i only accept agreements from ordained agreement acceptors

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-uma-im-no-ears-im-all-ears-horse-gif-4308252428337868305

[glass flower]

AI is good to get something done that you understand. it isn`t a black or white situation its a gradient of use. vibe coders, they are just modern script kiddies

[cloud rivet]

I know how to arrange marriages. Does that count?

[sage crag]

i believe that would make me dislike you

[cloud rivet]

There is no need to make change your enemy.

I just came to chat

[sage crag]

enemy too meaningful

you simply random

[cloud rivet]

That's exactly it

[sage crag]

you did it again

[cloud rivet]

So why hate each other?

[rancid cedar]

Which one?

[sage crag]

if i hated you i would not do the courtesy of replying to you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1138690372386701332.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=vedalPuppet

[cloud rivet]

Fair

[cloud rivet]

download everything

[rancid cedar]

lol

[cloud rivet]

More the better

[opaque sigil]

sth sth missing the nixos iso

[sage crag]

nixos-infect on win11

[rigid snow]

kvjfjhhjkvdkljfsdjklsdfkljdsfiugoesudpasfjohigfxdljsk;lfghxdl;ghdsaijf;ougyuhsgahfcnvg

[opaque sigil]

same

[sage crag]

kvjfjhhjkvdkajfsdjklsdfkljdsfiugoesudpasfjohigfxdljsk;lfghxdl;ghdsaijf;ougyuhsgahfcnvg*

tpyo

[rigid snow]

asterisl

[sage crag]

ye me fix

your tpyo

it in there

dyslexia

[rigid snow]

you add a

or replace a

why did i see it in 5 second

l => a

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

final hour

[rancid cedar]

I decided to search for a streamlined version of the Windows

[sage crag]

never use unofficial windows iso

easy way to

virus

debloat afterward better way

[rancid cedar]

[faint sandal]

iot ltsc is basically super clean already

[rigid snow]

how you supposed to install Windows XP Gold Edition 2016 SP3 by Muhammad Sadeem With Drivers Free Download otherwise

[sage crag]

window gold

why would you make a window gold

idiot

that mirror

not window

[olive sable]

windows yellow

[zealous hawk]

Can

Can anybody give some solutions to bypassing the password for my secure boot? I'm trying to get rid of my old ahh Linux distro and forgor the password :3

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/beautiful-whoa-lord-of-the-rings-gif-19620923

[rigid snow]

IT COMES WITH SUBWAY SURFERS

LMAO

[zealous hawk]

Best OS EVER

[faint sandal]

can

[zealous hawk]

I--- have--- an---- IDEA

[sage crag]

great

[tender river]

---- ligature

[rigid snow]

🥀 💔

[zealous hawk]

Betrayal

[rigid snow]

konii NOT smart tv

[trim valve]

check your motherboard docs

a lot of them have options to reset it

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/noway-noway-cat-cat-emote-gif-3075490627422012886

[zealous hawk]

So far all attempts to reset have failed... I shall be back from this journey soon!

[rigid snow]

i have realization. this is the evil twin of something like hannah montana linux

[olive sable]

hannah montana linux

5th search result, thats crazy

[untold wyvern]

Does anyone here program in python

[olive sable]

on occasion

[untold wyvern]

ight im new to this stuff so i aint got to much of a clue what im doing

[rigid snow]

[iron steppe]

https://www.w3schools.com/python/default.asp

[untold wyvern]

im using that

[iron steppe]

https://roadmap.sh/python

You can try that, but im not sure if you need like everything from there

[untold wyvern]

hope this works

there it is

Why aint this working

specifically the file path

[rigid snow]

$ cat UserInfo.txt
John21Male$

[olive sable]

might be the backslashes?

[rigid snow]

ye it is

\\

\ is escape

[untold wyvern]

i already tried double backslashes

[olive sable]

put an r infornt of the string to make it do raw string

[rigid snow]

why

[iron steppe]

You dont need to show the way to your file
You can just write the file name

moment

[olive sable]

File_Path = r"C:\Users\starg\Documents\Test\UserInfo.txt"
this should work no?

[iron steppe]

User Inputs Data

Name = input (" Input Your Name ")
Age = input (" Input Your Age ")
Sex = input (" Input Your Sex ")

User_Info = Name + Age + Sex

Saves User Data to UserInfo.Txt

print (" Your User Info is being saved ")

with open("UserInfo.txt", "a") as file:
file.write(User_Info)

i am maybe wrong but it's workin

[obsidian mantle]

where is it goingto be used

[zealous hawk]

Your mom's house :3

[obsidian mantle]

or you just test things to see if it works

[iron steppe]

also i dont know how to send a code in normal way sorry

[zealous hawk]

Sorry... I sensed an opportunity

[olive sable]

use `

[iron steppe]

okay thanks!

[obsidian mantle]

cod

[iron steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/rtx-on-phrogames-kurogame-phrolova-phralova-phrolava-gif-10261044969739819315

[hard delta]

```language
code
code
```

[iron steppe]

Name = input (" Input Your Name ") 
Age  = input (" Input Your Age  ")
Sex  = input (" Input Your Sex  ")

User_Info = Name + Age + Sex

## Saves User Data to UserInfo.Txt ##
print (" Your User Info is being saved ") 

with open("UserInfo.txt", "a") as file:
    file.write(User_Info)```

yay

cool

thanks

[silent cloak]

## User Inputs Data ##
Name = input (" Input Your Name ") 
Age  = input (" Input Your Age  ")
Sex  = input (" Input Your Sex  ")

User_Info = Name + Age + Sex

## Saves User Data to UserInfo.Txt ##
print (" Your User Info is being saved ") 

with open("UserInfo.txt", "a") as file:
    file.write(User_Info)

[hard delta]

replace language with python for nice colors

[silent cloak]

ha i did it first

[iron steppe]

@untold wyvern

[obsidian mantle]

wait how do you do that

test = 123

oh shit

[rigid snow]

fih or call of duty

[untold wyvern]

but that makes it so it doesn't save to the folder i want it to

that just makes it save to the project folder

[obsidian mantle]

i didnt press the key hard enough and decided to let it be

[olive sable]

ye the other people here changed it for no reason

use this

File_Path = r"C:\Users\starg\Documents\Test\UserInfo.txt"

[silent cloak]

discord uses highlight.js for syntax stuff

[olive sable]

the r infront escapes all the backslashes

[untold wyvern]

damn it really was just that simple

[olive sable]

ye

[opaque sigil]

windows

[rigid snow]

or use relative path

[iron steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/ロボ子さん-ホロライブ-バーチャルyou-tuber-驚く-びっくり-gif-21835315

[rigid snow]

[opaque sigil]

or just use forward slashes

[olive sable]

riru and cipher fixed the problem by changing the filepath

[iron steppe]

But it's working!
even in bad way

but yea

sorry

[olive sable]

ye no worries lmao

[silent cloak]

the syntax also supports bf

https://highlightjs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/supported-languages.html

here is the list

always help with sending code on discord

[obsidian mantle]

for (int i=0; i==i; i++)
  i++;

red

[zealous hawk]

I think death i a preferrable option to the razer blade stealth BIOS problem

[rancid cedar]

I've decided to install a dual-boot system.

[zealous hawk]

Which ISOs?! :3

[nocturne olive]

Now uninstall Windows

[zealous hawk]

I actually did this and my laptop no longer has fan poblems :3

[rancid cedar]

Win and Arch

[nocturne olive]

So true Windows break everything

[zealous hawk]

How's the Arch experience? I'm a liking fedora, but open to move around distros

Anything but Ubuntu... It's stuck on my first laptop and awful....

[opaque sigil]

superbox ditching windows really was a canon event huh

[zealous hawk]

I think the world ditching windows is a canon event

Seriously, Microsoft insists on being the most bloated nightmare fuel in the history of mankind

[olive sable]

he wont shut up about it

everything superbox says is either neurosynth or windows bad

[zealous hawk]

Windows is bad... My dad is afraid of me forcing his clients away from windows, but it's like... People just need to come to that conclusion on their own.

[nocturne olive]

Mint so much better
Windows was completely borked

[olive sable]

mint?
nix is so much better

[rigid snow]

distro wars

[zealous hawk]

Fedora and Bazzite are my favourites since Ubuntu really screwed the pooch

Bazzite is like... stupid easy to use

[nocturne olive]

I don't know, haven't tried NixOS and I remember when Xoda tried on her Ultimate distro tester laptop (tm) it didn't work

[olive sable]

skill issue

[rigid snow]

guys this the best linux distro fr ong

[opaque sigil]

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

Mint is the only distro that works properly out of the box on it by the way

[zealous hawk]

ngl.... server maintenance on MacOS is pretty chill

[nocturne olive]

Specifically Mint Cinnamon Ubuntu-based

[fickle rain]

Very true!

[rigid snow]

10 minutes left on timer

[zealous hawk]

You guys ever tried a Pihole server with a PFSync firewall? Don't try using an Ubuntu VM...

[opaque sigil]

you can cut off the first sentence and the result is the same

[zealous hawk]

Pretty successful since I did the whole process on Proxmox with a fedora vm. About ready to add my own email client!

Just can't use ubuntu for shit no more

[delicate dust]

Guys, is there any neuro related project looking for helpers?

[olive sable]

you mean like community projects?

[delicate dust]

yeah

[olive sable]

there are a couple of neuro game integrations happening iirc

[nocturne olive]

NSP is only looking for either GPUs or money or data labellers, so probably nothing if you're looking for programmers

Oh, didn't mention instrumentalists

We need those too

[glass flower]

you could look in the #1336777692070023271 and see if there are projects that need help

[delicate dust]

Thanks, I'll check it

I totally missed that channel

[zealous hawk]

It's easy to miss with all the others here!

[zealous hawk]

fastfetch

Oh shit... Wrong window :3

[opaque sigil]

hyfetch

[zealous hawk]

I'm playing around with my terminal now while at work

Need to get through this cert course, but people keep asking me things

[rancid cedar]

Fuck

It break

[wide parrot]

They made the hollow knight integration in F#????

[sage crag]

she

[wide parrot]

2 people = plural

not = gender

[sage crag]

leaf work hard

[olive sable]

https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-hollow-knight

[rigid snow]

i identify as not i feel like that suits me best

[wide parrot]

true and real

[sage crag]

other person not do nearly as much

[wide parrot]

im here to talk about F# not about prononuns tbh. I just didnt look in to who made it and was just saying "they" just as like gender neutral pronoun

[olive sable]

@Tomyomy's activity is private

[tender river]

tomyomy was playtesting quite a lot
bug still appear

its stupid

vedal plays -> bug

anyone else plays -> no bug

[sage crag]

tutl

[rigid snow]

ye all tomy fault

[wide parrot]

well the bugs only appear in production

[nocturne olive]

SMOL

[tender river]

the weirdest bug was

evil pathfinding to rooms crashed for vedal but worked just fine for me and tomyomy

(i dont actually know if it crashed once or every time)

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

eliv fault

dumb kooky

[nocturne olive]

Clearly it's because Vedal still uses Windows 11

[olive sable]

brother its .NET

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

how is that in any way relevant

[nocturne olive]

.NET has different things available on Windows and outside of Windows

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/yume-nikki-awawawawawa-dancing-madotsuki-meme-gif-10015888597027776222

[nocturne olive]

There's dotnet and dotnet-windows

[wide parrot]

i program C# and use linux, we exist

[sage crag]

not uncommon

[nocturne olive]

I have also in fact touched C#
Getting it to compiled on Windows was harder than on Linux

[fickle rain]

-# So does Tomy

[olive sable]

why blame windows when we can blame microsoft as a whole?

[sage crag]

why blame anyone but TUTL

[rigid snow]

ok NOW you got me confused

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

actual skill issue ngl

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

it’s literally the same sdks and cli and

everything

same

[nocturne olive]

Well there was a dependency that was specifically needed for Windows and that made a mess with dotnet vs dotnet-windows

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060090228615958528/1399864129921093784/slep.gif

wrr

[rigid snow]

dependency fault obviously

[nocturne olive]

Kind of but it was an annoyance that made it easier to compile for Linux than Windows

[rigid snow]

[tender river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1056878975953145906/1458916687330934805/speed.gif

[olive sable]

waybar cava thing broke again, but now it has a cat idle animation for some reason

[sage crag]

me thoughts of what to type and what i actually want to say have diverge

i was going to type something

why i do that

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

reading too much

wrr

wrr

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-pats-pet-bunny-pats-gif-19861222

[tender river]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1458218703987408987.png?size=160&name=MiyagiPat

[sage crag]

wrr

[rigid snow]

ok so i wanna bring up again how i can’t find the type of wm that feel good to me

[sage crag]

window manager for fraud

use only

fd and pipes

no window

[rigid snow]

one of those kiosk compositors

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/kita-bocchi-the-rock-nervous-panic-anime-gif-420586283055838991

emi

WHERE

letter go

[olive sable]

i like hyprland

[obsidian mantle]

how did you test it?
with real evil or with those random action bots?

[rigid snow]

tiling are inconvenient

i find

[tender river]

tomyomy tested with evil, i tested with my own tools

[sage crag]

disintegrate

[rigid snow]

too much constraint

[olive sable]

then just press win+v to stop the tiling

[rigid snow]

then i have stacking

which sucks even more

[olive sable]

so?

[sage crag]

wrr

[tender river]

what are the use cases

[hard delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1446928483010744490/neuroSway.gif

[tender river]

like its definitely annoying for apps that use multiple windows

[rigid snow]

it just does not feel good ok

[sage crag]

awenrj

[olive sable]

what other options are there other than tiling or stacking?

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1248294218191999118/1353485622152794172/liellesocute.gif

[opaque sigil]

scrolling

[rigid snow]

scrolling which i liked the most

[tender river]

then again me not even tile just use tabs

[sage crag]

niri is a good name

[olive sable]

scrolling????

[rigid snow]

yes

[sage crag]

me judge software based on

name only

[amber fractal]

best option is scrolling or monicle

[sage crag]

everything else secondary

niri good name

plasma good name

labwc good name

[amber fractal]

niri is a good name

[olive sable]

what does a scrolling window manager look like?

[sage crag]

all me project have good name

minsmig

[olive sable]

uhm

all my projects have bad name

[sage crag]

that why they suck

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421861060507602944/1425936142754123927/neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf.webp

[olive sable]

the repo for the triangle is jsut called vulkan

[opaque sigil]

full height windows placed next to each other horizontally

[rigid snow]

honestly i might just end up doing that but then i use windows and macos most of the time so its not like i have a choice anyway

[opaque sigil]

or am i misremembering

[olive sable]

hyprland can do that too tho?

[amber fractal]

one of them is contained off the screen

[sage crag]

chumi

[rigid snow]

multiple desktops on macos are at least usable unlike windows which just pretends nothing on the other desktops exist

[rough bloom]

same as normal (usually tiling) except workspace extends beyond the screen
you can have as many windows horizontally as you want

[sage crag]

ert

[rough bloom]

wrrr

[amber fractal]

don't glueless this man there is a official plugin in the works for true scrolling

[sage crag]

that NOT me

[rough bloom]

ye

[sage crag]

[rough bloom]

not wrrrr

[opaque sigil]

i should try niri at some point

[rough bloom]

wrrr

[olive sable]

isnt that what the different workspaces are for?

[sage crag]

wrrrr

[tender river]

NOT cheese cheese

[sage crag]

vedalBwaaUpsideDown

[rough bloom]

ye but what if you want more

[olive sable]

then get more workspaces

[rough bloom]

can't, all number keys already bound

[rigid snow]

apps can be less than fullsctreen and you might want them side by side idk it’s just different

[amber fractal]

I run 12 workspaces

[sage crag]

reading yuri for more than 24 hours in two days create critical brainrot

neuroNotNoted

me already dentege due to high exposure level

[amber fractal]

should consider the special one eventually

[rigid snow]

dentege

[sage crag]

ye

dente

and ge

[rigid snow]

why dentage not a word

my sense of english tells me it should be

[olive sable]

bind = SUPER, right, workspace, e+1
bind = SUPER, left, workspace, e-1

[amber fractal]

scrolling at home

[tender river]

me awesome osu! gameplay on topic for baking

[rough bloom]

could but that sucks, can't easily navigate to far workspaces then

[rigid snow]

not needed because “dent” (noun)

[sage crag]

dentage not exist because it have no use

but

"you have some serious dentage" have use

so essentially

not matter

[olive sable]

realistically, are you gonna need to have 478 workspaces to scroll through?

[amber fractal]

Just hardcode every 3

[rigid snow]

would it be the same meaning as this

[sage crag]

ueeeee

ueee

ue

[tender river]

[rigid snow]

ungine enreal

[sage crag]

oh

[rough bloom]

no, I want fewer workspaces, but I want the windows in them to be grouped in a way that makes sense
it's not like I actually need a whole workspace for every window, I just need to dump them somewhere

[olive sable]

unreal engine engine engine engine engine
unreal engine engine engine
unreal engine

[sage crag]

leave my brain at once yuri

[olive sable]

you can group them in a workspace tho?

[tender river]

its over

[rigid snow]

obviously you should start reading something else

like children’s book

[sage crag]

why would i do that

[rough bloom]

ye, but Niri does that in a nicer way, don't need to resize or anything

[olive sable]

suit yourself

[rigid snow]

what’s over

[olive sable]

read the vulkan docs

[tender river]

brain

[sage crag]

brain is over not under

neuroNotNoted

[rigid snow]

just like the 2025-26 neuro-sama birthday subathon 3

[sage crag]

chip

i need to go to hopital

for lobotomy

[rigid snow]

chip

[rough bloom]

I will
I used Hyprland for quite a while and it wasn't too bad either
Niri mostly just more convenient for specific scenarios

[sage crag]

or call priest

[olive sable]

we need to purify this tv from sin

[rigid snow]

also linux no pretty de or dare i say ui in general

[sage crag]

:Emi:

me NOT sinful

[faint sandal]

[rigid snow]

all look like

[sage crag]

:Emi:

[rigid snow]

uhhhh

[olive sable]

its a css file, if its not pretty you only have yourself to blame

[faint sandal]

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/kita-bocchi-the-rock-nervous-panic-anime-gif-420586283055838991

[rigid snow]

css has limited feature set

[olive sable]

dont care

[rigid snow]

web ui kinda stuck too

[olive sable]

then make a vulkan ui

[amber fractal]

I really need to package the mapping each workspace to a tiling method in hyprland. That way I can actually try hyprscrolling without breaking my tiling stuff.

[olive sable]

go nuts

[rigid snow]

at least they add smooth corners to css

thank you css

smooth corners are goated

[sage crag]

remove from server

[faint sandal]

https://fxtwitter.com/vocaloidedits/status/2010026754837229681 my reaction to this information

vocaloid edits (@vocaloidedits)

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[sage crag]

SQUARE corner

OPTIMAL

[olive sable]

eh

idk

[rigid snow]

i like those too

windows 8

[sage crag]

i hope your corners get turned into squigglies

[olive sable]

square corner only if window is at edge of screen

[faint sandal]

KDE has round corners

[olive sable]

if its floating window i like em round

[sage crag]

me turn off

always

[rough bloom]

hito mania

[sage crag]

hamte

[tender river]

i use sway without waybar because

waybar crashed

[amber fractal]

o7

[sage crag]

i use labwc without waybar because

[rough bloom]

[sage crag]

i dont need bar

[tender river]

you have phone

[sage crag]

me not use that bar either

smog frog

[tender river]

blissfully unaware of the passage of time

[amber fractal]

last time waybar crashed for me I couldn't summon a new one for some reason.

[rigid snow]

see these aren’t just pill shaped the radius is smoothly rolling off

[sage crag]

me check date with date in terminal

[rigid snow]

also here

[tender river]

"and UI in general"

[rigid snow]

[amber fractal]

IOS :ohidontsee:

[olive sable]

new pfp is in the make
idk what market rate is but i paid some british person 40 gbp

[tender river]

me do same when waybar crash :mlntcandy:

[sage crag]

me not even recieve discord notif

[rigid snow]

many chinese android distro copy it go look there

[sage crag]

ignore phone call if i not recognise number

[tender river]

wrr me have notifications only for email and matrix

nobody can call me because phone turn off

[sage crag]

i got doctor phone call when i stream osu and i turned it down by accident

they call me again in 2 minutes

[rigid snow]

doctor not important

chip important

[olive sable]

nobody call me cuz nobody call me

[sage crag]

important they tell me i dismissed for cyclic vomiting issue

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

me NOT ill

[amber fractal]

I don't think I have notifs at all on PC, mobile is only discord, email, and messages because we as a society still use it.

[olive sable]

i have a decent amount of notifs on my phone. mostly just school or discord related tho

[sage crag]

not vomity since last october maybe

[rigid snow]

neurocord should switch to neuro mailing list

[sage crag]

wrr

radio channel

[tender river]

email also receive twitch notifs

minsmig

only used for

three channel

[sage crag]

i dont get email notifs

i check if i remember

if not

i only have like 5 email anyway not hard

[olive sable]

i have a bunch of twitch notifs, but i watch pretty much none of the stream

im too busy

[tender river]

i once forgot to reply to an email for months

after that decided to set up notifs

[sage crag]

wrr

[rigid snow]

essential oils

[sage crag]

people should just learn that me not communicate with email

[rigid snow]

incense

[sage crag]

wrr

[rigid snow]

want

[olive sable]

then buy

[rigid snow]

no

you buy

[olive sable]

then dont get

[sage crag]

me not buy for you

lazy

broke

[rigid snow]

not broke just laz

[sage crag]

lazy

lazy

[olive sable]

what do you expect me to do? ship them from belgium to moscow?

[faint sandal]

https://fxtwitter.com/MinuraNakatawa/status/2009903032264515604

-=Argent Moon=- (@MinuraNakatawa)

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[rigid snow]

i expect you to do nothing

[sage crag]

ohidontsee

solution to loneliness is crippling addiction

minsmig

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

i suggest

gambling

[sage crag]

i dont suggest

not gambling

[olive sable]

i suggest vulkan

[sage crag]

you are idiot

[olive sable]

i mean it works

[tender river]

solution to

hungry

[sage crag]

ye vulkan works

[tender river]

slep

[sage crag]

ye

[tender river]

[olive sable]

the triangle is a social succes

[sage crag]

you arent

[olive sable]

bwaa

dont be so mean

[sage crag]

hm

maybe

convince me

[olive sable]

uh

https://tenor.com/view/tigger-sad-bye-leaving-gif-12259711

[sage crag]

i remain

unconvinced

lamination

delamnition

ermi

fishi

[rigid snow]

regular casino, illegal casino in night club backdoor, crypto casino, illegal crypto casino, sports betting, crypto sports betting, illegal crypto sports betting, illegal sports betting in shady neighborhood to that one random dude on a bench in a park, prediction markets, options trading, futures trading on penny stocks with 50x leverage, futures trading on meme crypto coins with 50x leverage, gacha games,

[sage crag]

ohei

DO NOT see

[rigid snow]

csgo cases

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

tf2 cases

[sage crag]

me read by

[rigid snow]

by

https://github.com/torvalds/AudioNoise

Also note that the python visualizer tool has been basically written by vibe-coding. I know more about analog filters -- and that's not saying much -- than I do about python. It started out as my typical "google and do the monkey-see-monkey-do" kind of programming, but then I cut out the middle-man -- me -- and just used Google Antigravity to do the audio sample visualizer.

linus vibecoding

[humble sand]

[rancid cedar]

[void mortar]

Did not expect that

[opaque sigil]

matplotlib basically made to be used through vibecoding

[rigid snow]

also google antigravity is such a choice

[opaque sigil]

i like antigravity

though it keeps processes around which is annoying

[rigid snow]

linus using a vscode fork, and an ai agent one is a funny concept

to think about

and it’s real

[opaque sigil]

i thought he had his own ancient broken editor he refused to let go of

[rigid snow]

could have been claude code or some shit at least

ye

[sage crag]

too much read

not enough readd

slepey

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

plode

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

kni

what you think about linus vibecode

:donkdink

[visual flame]

Guys i joined this chat not cause ik how to do programming but just cause i think its fun, but i wanna learn it too, how do i start

[olive sable]

choose a language

[visual flame]

Whats a good language to start with, ik like basic python stuff and thats it

Like high school level python is the extent of my knowledge

[olive sable]

some people say python is good to start ewith, others dont like the lack of types

imo choose a language based on what you want to program

[nocturne olive]

I like Kotlin as a starter

[olive sable]

kotlin would be android stuff

phone dev

[nocturne olive]

It's also a Java replacement

It works great on desktop

[visual flame]

My goals with programming arent the clearest, but i do think learning game development could be cool

[rigid snow]

this is a bad thing to say to a beginner. it’s a general purpose lang

not unlike anything that has been or will be mentioned

[olive sable]

ye

i meant its mostly used for android

[nocturne olive]

Godot

[nocturne olive]

I know desktop apps written in Kotlin and even use some for important things

[olive sable]

[visual flame]

I would ask why but i think your user is neat so i will just commit lol

[rigid snow]

ok maybe gdscript which is about to be mentioned isn’t

[nocturne olive]

Unity is annoying
Unreal is bloated
Godot is lightweight, the language is like Python, and everything is easy to understand

[olive sable]

gdscript used in godot, unity uses C#, ue5 uses c++

[rigid snow]

or blueprints

[olive sable]

unity has a lot more resources tho

[rigid snow]

❤️

[rough bloom]

can just try and do projects in Python then, best language is one that you already know
can also try and explore other languages if you want, C might be good (just don't expect to get much done with it immediately)

[nocturne olive]

Godot has plenty
It has great docs too

[rough bloom]

Superbox very unbiased

[tranquil panther]

What do you guys think about people using ai to make coding projects

[olive sable]

godot is fine, its jsut a lot newer

not as much time to get all the kinks out

[nocturne olive]

Not great

[rigid snow]

scroll up to see a person do that that you least expect to

[olive sable]

its fine if its not critical code imo.

[rough bloom]

mostly fine as long as you're still looking at, verifying and correcting everything
vibe coding yucky but probably okay for tools that don't have to be good

[rigid snow]

it’s super nice for one off things

[visual flame]

Ok i know like basic python stuff but my programming knowledge is like 0, so i kinda struggle to relate how doing stuff in python is used to like… make games? Idk the correct term for it sry but like how does that transition work?

[rough bloom]

ye, stuff where it would make no sense to sit down and actually write it yourself, but having something at all is still much better than nothing

[nocturne olive]

GDScript is the most Python-like game engine language

[rigid snow]

i don’t do it for anything else though because i feel like it just becomes pair programming with a monkey with a typewriter that will take every opportunity possible and impossible to make your codebase unworkable and incomprehensible

[olive sable]

you can also just do opengl in python

[opaque sigil]

you can also drink bleach, doesn't mean you want to

[olive sable]

unless?

[rigid snow]

i want to

[visual flame]

Me just sitting here taking notes cause i have the memory of a fruit fly:

[olive sable]

ngl i am curious what bleach tastes like

god tests his dumbest soldiers

[opaque sigil]

does arm have popcnt

[rigid snow]

it’s a strong base right? so probably like pain

[opaque sigil]

before i check

[visual flame]

It tastes like bleach

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-meme-you-did-not-have-to-cut-me-off-gif-498898395089837096

[visual flame]

My genius knows no bounds

Its also 4:30 am for me that might also be a reason i unironically types that my sleep schedule is cooked

[olive sable]

[rough bloom]

for something as complicated as a game you usually want to use some kind of library or framework (or in case of games specifically, a game engine) that already gives you a lot of functionality that you need
you aren't really restricted to doing any particular task in any particular programming language, you can write a game in Python just fine (as long as you can live with the worse performance Python gives you)
you'll probably just want to use pygame

[opaque sigil]

can nvidia stop making arm cpus so i don't have to patch half these stupid libraries to work on arm

[rough bloom]

why are half the links on that page dead

[nocturne olive]

Don't worry Valve is inventing X86 on ARM for the Steam frame

[rough bloom]

"inventing"

[nocturne olive]

Yeah not exactly the first to do it

[olive sable]

we need switch 2 SOCs tho

[visual flame]

Thanks for the input i am taking a ss and leaving that for future less sleepy me to look into

[rough bloom]

more like they're just using an existing project, similar to what they did with Wine

[opaque sigil]

dun care

[olive sable]

if you're interested in graphics progrmming you could also learn opengl

[nocturne olive]

I should try to OpenGL in KT some day

[rough bloom]

OpenGL and adjacent libraries like SDL and raylib not bad
but should really know C first

[olive sable]

you can do opengl in python just fine

[tranquil panther]

Well I had Claude make a program just for fun and it is literally just a graph for my 2nd monitor but I feel like people should be able to use ai without judgement as long as they have an idea but I feel like if you are a skilled coder you should be judged as you have the skills to code. But otherwise, for new coders should get a general grasp on what coding feels like even if it takes using ai to just look over the code to see how it works, like even finding a random app on github and looking at that code and yes there is videos but some people are too lazy for that.

[rough bloom]

yeah, but in the end it's a C API

better experience to just do it in C

[rigid snow]

yeah sure as i said

one off things you don’t expect to tweak after? go for it

[olive sable]

for system stuff i do like to double check the code

cuz if its always running in the bg or on elevated privileges you gotta be careful

[rigid snow]

idk i had gpt 5 write me a daemon that basically intercepts my mouse and kb

in rust of all things

works, not touch

[olive sable]

im sure its fine, but i odnt want to waste too much compute

chatgpt might do things inefficiently

[rigid snow]

code is fucking awful though

i do not want to touch

[rough bloom]

ye, random graph you want on your second monitor is a good use-case I think
asking an LLM to explain what some code does is obviously fine too, it's not generating code then
would heavily recommend against using it to generate code if you're new

[rigid snow]

i have my mouse set to 1000hz, still basically 0 cpu usage

thread is for 99% of the time

modern cpu fast

[olive sable]

cpu fast but energy bill even faster

[tranquil panther]

This is what I am doing I want to get into coding but I am having it generate code just to see what is possible so I can learn more and skim through the code but when I learn more I will star coding without ai unless I have errors

[rigid snow]

you’re acting like you’re the one paying it

[olive sable]

[tranquil panther]

anyway

[rigid snow]

maybe i should get a mac studio or similar as a server

they like consume basically no power for the compute

[hearty notch]

ye if you care about power efficiency silicon is simply king rn

[tranquil panther]

https://tenor.com/view/apple-apple-mac-apple-mac-studio-apple-mac-studio2022-apple-mac-studio-m1-gif-25082412

?

[rigid snow]

i’m scared of the idea of a mac server

why did they have to discontinue mac os server

[warped narwhal]

I had a message selected to reply to and I don't remember what one so good luck to whoever is getting pinged

[rigid snow]

hi semicolon

[warped narwhal]

hello

[rigid snow]

what’s the state of those chinese arm boxes that are ai focused

maybe that’s a better choice

[fickle rain]

I think NVIDIA is doing ARM AI boxes now too

DGX Spark or somesuch

[rigid snow]

i kinda do not want to deal with macos servers

ye i know

but nvidia ew

mac studio prices are kinda fucked… is what i was about to say but factoring in ram cost it’s not that bad

ye i’ll just have to wait

[stuck pasture]

User-Agent: Neuro/1.0

[rigid snow]

found a m2 ultra with 64gb for $3k (new)

like they cost relatively cheap for what they are as long as you’re looking at 32gb or 36gb

everything above is

[warped narwhal]

36gb

[rigid snow]

yeah the newer ones are 36

for some reason

maybe 12 gb modules

[rancid cedar]

https://www.threads.com/@ryanx0621/post/DTV0U-hknWV

What exactly did I watch?

[olive sable]

you tell me

i cant read that

[rigid snow]

found a m3 ultra with 512gb ram for

uuhhh

$14.5k

incredible. now i need to become a millionaire rq

probably diminishing returns at that point, makes more sense to buy 20 3090s

[rancid cedar]

This matter is complicated.

[olive sable]

[rancid cedar]

Basically, it's a huge GitHub carnival.

https://github.com/ryanx0621/Atlas-World

[olive sable]

[warped bolt]

https://fixupx.com/midware_midwife/status/2002367791236604242?s=46

Midwife (@midware_midwife)

oh my god i told opus 4.5 i was going to make food and to do whatever they want and they kept taking pics with the webcam to see if i was back yet 🥺

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[warped bolt]

The readme reads gpt generated

[digital orbit]

Stupid question, I wanna learn more how to program, which is the best language to start with and should I just use google or any websites

[nocturne olive]

The language you start with is completely up to you, I personally like Kotlin as a starter

[obsidian mantle]

why are crash outputs like this legal

it says absolutely nothing

[warped bolt]

(There are no stupid questions) If you have a specific interest in mind such as modding or procedural generation I suggest starting with the language associated with it for maximum motivation

I personally started with Python because the beginners book I read was for Python lol

[digital orbit]

Do certain things have different coding languages associated with them then

[velvet crest]

You have unlocked new role

[obsidian mantle]

"broken"

error 1: "error"

[olive sable]

ye

[digital orbit]

Also lets go unlocked embeded perms lol

[warped bolt]

Yes, like Minecraft mods are typically written in Java (or Kotlin more modernly)

[olive sable]

unity uses C#, godot uses gdscript, ue5 does c++

[warped bolt]

(gdscript is basically a specialized python, and godot also supports C#)

[digital orbit]

If learning python (heard it was easy to get into) would I be able to translate those skills into other programs or is it very much a each language is very different

[trim valve]

yeah

[olive sable]

you can translate some things

some small details here and there are language specific

[warped bolt]

^^ basically yeah. Also Python is a scripting language so you'll come across a few new concepts when you move to languages like C++. Overall it hasn't been a problem for me

[obsidian mantle]

does anyone know cmake

generator and compiler are different guys, its not like it will try to choose, right?
i need ninja for this preset?

[trim valve]

idk enough about how clang works but it looks like a weird mix of windows style args and Linux style

[obsidian mantle]

it is a mix

[olive sable]

its me

[obsidian mantle]

mega compatible shit

[olive sable]

[obsidian mantle]

now to set it up you have to be tony stark

but it works everywhere

with any compiler

[trim valve]

are you sure it's compatible and not just passing broken args

clang++ seems to be interpreting them as paths

[obsidian mantle]

i have no idea

i built vspkg helloworld with guide form microsoft website 2nd try

now i have this

[warped bolt]

Oh I didn't even see the windows-style args, thought it was just the path that's windows

That's cursed lol

[obsidian mantle]

how tf did i do this before

[opaque sigil]

use clang-cl

[obsidian mantle]

already did, i think it worked.. having other issues now

[rancid cedar]

Fuck

[opaque sigil]

[solid warren]

you can use clang-cl for clang to accept MSVC-style arguments or regular clang if you want gcc-style arguments, but you can't mix the two, and that's what seems to be happening in your screenshot

[obsidian mantle]

but i have it installed... wtf does it want

is this wrong

[warped narwhal]

I'm pretty sure cmake expects the .cmake files to either be in the same dir that you are configuring with, or you need to add the vcpkg paths to the cmake prefix

[obsidian mantle]

i have these, they worked for something before

dont mind vcpkg\vcpkg\

its actually like that

some day i will understand why they created 500 different build systems

but not today

[thorny axle]

im not an expert but isnt the cmake project likely trying to build for 32bit win and not 64bit?

[obsidian mantle]

idk it doesnt tell me

but makes sense i guess

the problem is there was no option to get 32 bit version

[opaque sigil]

Btw you probably want to use vcpkg in manifest mode anyway

Or do what I usually end up doing and just build all dependencies from source

[obsidian mantle]

you mean this thing?

[opaque sigil]

Yeah

[obsidian mantle]

it uses that (i think )

oooh shit

[thorny axle]

maybe clean build the folder

[obsidian mantle]

i actually have one project that builds another project

both have own vcpkg.json

does it work like that

so that one json that fails has this

and i have exactly this version

[opaque sigil]

You sure?

[obsidian mantle]

installed

does this :x64 actually matter

[thorny axle]

doesnt manifest mode ignore the libraries that are manually installed?

[opaque sigil]

can you show the contents of vcpkg.json

it does

it uses the baseline commit defined in the json to fetch the packages and installs them locally

[obsidian mantle]

{
  "$schema": "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/microsoft/vcpkg/master/scripts/vcpkg.schema.json",
  "name": "commonlibsse-ng",
  "version-semver": "3.7.0",
  "port-version": 0,
  "description": "A fork of CommonLibSSE with advanced features for modern SKSE development.",
  "homepage": "https://github.com/CharmedBaryon/CommonLibSSE",
  "license": "MIT",
  "supports": "windows & x64",
  "builtin-baseline": "ee12231b20c95013c6638d845d04c91559a1d1ff",
  "dependencies": [
    {
      "name": "vcpkg-cmake-config",
      "host": true
    },
    {
      "name": "directxmath",
      "version>=": "2025-04-03"
    },
    {
      "name": "directxtk",
      "version>=": "2025-10-27"
    },
    {
      "name": "fmt",
      "version>=": "12.1.0"
    },
    {
      "name": "rapidcsv",
      "version>=": "8.90"
    },
    {
      "name": "spdlog",
      "version>=": "1.16.0"
    },
    {
      "name": "xbyak",
      "version>=": "7.28"
    }
  ],
  "features": {
    "tests": {
      "description": "Build tests for CommonLibSSE.",
      "dependencies": [
        {
          "name": "catch2",
          "version>=": "3.11.0"
        }
      ]
    }
  },
  "default-features": ["tests"]
}

wrong baseline?

[opaque sigil]

nah

what's it complaining about anyway when you run vcpkg install

[obsidian mantle]

i dont run that i run cmake --prefix

with some prefix

[obsidian mantle]

the thing is, when i build it from this guy's folder with clang it builds okay

but when i build it from another project that actually is going to use it

it builds it in super megamultiversion mode which touches directx that i will never even want to use anyway

so it crashes like that

so i probably need to tell this project to build that project using different preset

[silent cloak]

I love solving issues like those

[obsidian mantle]

this is crazy, i spent 1-2 weeks last time and figured out some shit solution that decapitated me i couldnt use most of stuff

because i only managed to set it up in some outdated library environment

[silent cloak]

Thats how I felt trying to use Conan

[obsidian mantle]

they give this new megamodern library but give no template project

[silent cloak]

I just gave up and did it all manually

[obsidian mantle]

it would be cool to figure out how this all works

but man spending many hours just to set it up is not fun at all

[thorny axle]

"supports": "windows & x64"

i feel like this is the problem, cmake defaults to 32 bit builds

clean build and run with x64 flag: -A x64

[silent cloak]

C/C++ package management

[opaque sigil]

the "simple" solution would be to install dependencies manually with vcpkg and then just point cmake to its directory

[silent cloak]

I dont like rust but my god is Crates easier

[opaque sigil]

have you tried xmake

[obsidian mantle]

there is xmake indeed

[silent cloak]

Ive been using cmake forever

Ill have to look into it

[opaque sigil]

i've switched to meson for most things but xmake has been tempting

[obsidian mantle]

the target library has xmake but this template doesnt

and i need template

[silent cloak]

The big issue is the compiler on windows for my setup

[opaque sigil]

what's a windows

[silent cloak]

Ikr

Its a pain until I can get the storage to safely migrate OS

Plus idk what jobs might complain about not having windows so I want to do dual booting or something

[amber fractal]

Seems like an issue with MS Teams as well depending on what is expected of you

[silent cloak]

Thats what's holding me back from switching right away

[opaque sigil]

ms teams is at least just a web app that runs anywhere

[silent cloak]

Storage and me still being between jobs

So many damn AI jobs in my listings (for companies doing slop)

[amber fractal]

It do be, I just had to install the MS teams for linux app yesterday

[silent cloak]

Sometimes u get slack too

[opaque sigil]

electron my beloved

[silent cloak]

My beloated

[amber fractal]

When I installed MS Teams for linux, I was surpised I didn't have to override for unfree packages

electron I only accept for apps that wouldn't get a native port otherwise, discord unfortantly being one of those

[silent cloak]

I know some insider stuff about that

Discord deals with ALOT of bs from electron

[amber fractal]

wonder when they are going to crack

[silent cloak]

When old companies finish porting their cobol repos

Or when everyone agrees to switch to ipv6

[amber fractal]

Never

[silent cloak]

Ive been building my new landing site in astro lately

Feels like going back to basics almost

[opaque sigil]

i've heard a lot of good things about astro for static sites

[quick condor]

good luck getting everyone to replace their 7300s

[olive sable]

got cava to work again in the waybar
also gave it some colour

should probably lower cava to 60fps, 180 might be a bit overdoing it

[glad path]

totally not me struggling to route the system audio output to cava and then screwing something up

[olive sable]

i didnt even need to raute the audio manually

its just using the default config input stuff

idk why there are 6 of these but sure

[glad path]

for me it used my mic by default

i couldnt make it use the audio output

i used blackhole and stuff but then i couldnt change my volume with volume keys soo

[olive sable]

jsut change the cava config then

[input]

# Audio capturing method. Possible methods are: 'pulse', 'alsa', 'fifo', 'sndio' or 'shmem'
# Defaults to 'pulse', 'alsa' or 'fifo', in that order, dependent on what support cava was built with.
#
# All input methods uses the same config variable 'source'
# to define where it should get the audio.
#
# For pulseaudio 'source' will be the source. Default: 'auto', which uses the monitor source of the default sink
# (all pulseaudio sinks(outputs) have 'monitor' sources(inputs) associated with them).
#
# For alsa 'source' will be the capture device.
# For fifo 'source' will be the path to fifo-file.
# For shmem 'source' will be /squeezelite-AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF where 'AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF' will be squeezelite's MAC address

[sick owl]

https://youtu.be/o2P8K3xIKZY

One of the robots fell on the presenter lmao

I suspect that may colour their opinion

Personally, I think the first truly successful home robot will be a wheeled base, two arms and a central vertical lift rather than a full humanoid

It just makes sense from a cost, safety and engineering perspective

Like this open source one

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[sick owl]

This was the obvious conclusion they drew yes

[silent cloak]

(Ellie approved)

[sick owl]

Do you have a clip of Ellie talking about this, I must have missed it

[silent cloak]

it was in a call

[sick owl]

Ah never mind then

What does she have to say? Kind of curious given she's in the industry and all

[silent cloak]

i forgot how it came up but it was about the inefficiencies of all those human like robots

and how the batteries last like 30 minutes just for them to do kind of a shit job

we just aint there with the tech yet

right now they just kind of look cool

but they arent practical

[sick owl]

I will say it's cool as a robot is personally I think the play is smart home devices with an AI plugged into them for the average consumer

You can automate damn near everything in your house for a fraction of the cost of a humanoid

[silent cloak]

the robot dogs are honestly more practical

[sick owl]

I maintain a design like this guy I posted above makes the most sense

Just enough complexity for tasks like folding laundry but absolutely no extra flourishes

[olive sable]

i like the robots that dont move

[silent cloak]

honestly we kind of already skipped to the dog

atleast for some work settings

(and some home)