programming

[sage crag]

ElvynSerius

stoopid

[tender river]

-D RGFW_WAYLAND

[sage crag]

ye

wayland-client.h

[tender river]

-D RGFW_WAYLAND relative-pointer-unstable-v1.c pointer-constraints-unstable-v1.c xdg-toplevel-icon-v1.c xdg-output-unstable-v1.c xdg-decoration-unstable-v1.c xdg-shell.c -lwayland-cursor -lwayland-client -lxkbcommon -lwayland-egl -lEGL

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1425866152424505394.png?size=160&name=ElvynSerius

[sage crag]

minyanstare

glfw wasnt so bad

-lglfw

[tender river]

wayland

annoy

[sage crag]

ye

why it try load it then

me compositor do ssd

[tender river]

it not care

[sage crag]

dum

serius

[tender river]

serius

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1425866152424505394.png?size=160&name=ElvynSerius

[azure lynx]

i think it might not be fastest to have libs do stuff.
why not write the triangle directly into video memory in real mode? hardest part would be extracting the timing. memory @ 0xa000:0000 is first 64k of video memory. can change to 320x200x8bit graphics with 3 asm instructions. you can probably also tweak the cpu mode so you have 32-bit access to unprotected memory and use that to write stuff to memory faster. depends on what specifically you need to do i guess.

[sage crag]

evilDentge

me learn

apparently dont even need pipeline

if i use VkShaderObjectKHREXT

but then i need to load vk extensions at runtime

which seem annoying

[rigid snow]

line

[sage crag]

wrrr

im the best code formatter

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

user@nixos ~/c/vrrr> wc -l triangle.c
226 triangle.c

i should really rename it to vrrr.c

wrr

user@nixos ~/c/vrrr> ./result
Gtk-Message: 09:21:09.074: Failed to load module "colorreload-gtk-module"
93112
97865
98642
98720
98580
99334
99256
99217
99782
100316
100528
101084
100379
97995

101k

without cheating

smogfrog

[true hemlock]

i'll do triangle tonight

AND I'LL BEAT YOUR SCORE KONI

:)

[sage crag]

this is my own triangle

which im writing

[true hemlock]

oh huh

[sage crag]

ye 200 line of triangle

[true hemlock]

let me try that aswell

[sage crag]

im not entirely finished yet but soon

im also going to make it into a 3d spinning banana

at some point

user@nixos ~/c/vrrr> LP_NUM_THREADS=1 VK_LOADER_DRIVERS_SELECT="*lvp*" ./result
Gtk-Message: 09:24:38.566: Failed to load module "colorreload-gtk-module"
57302
61228
61705
63435
62785
62952

llvmpipe

user@nixos ~/c/vrrr> ./result
Gtk-Message: 09:25:22.602: Failed to load module "colorreload-gtk-module"
35727
42156
43912
43954

1080p triangle

[sage crag]

my version of triangle is properly synchronised

i only get 43538fps with 1 frame in flight

if i remove proper sync i get up to 107216 fps

on 3 frames in flight though

[true hemlock]

@olive sable

[sage crag]

so its a bit different

[jagged turtle]

something something inappropriate creations something something I can't say here

[sage crag]

here's my load average running triangle

i should really put the fps counter on another thread

but im lazy

it doesnt like mangohud

apparently my gpu is being maxed

and my fps gets tanked when using mangohud

[rigid snow]

oh i know

[sage crag]

[rough bloom]

ye mangohud adds more triangles

not friendly

triangle war

[sage crag]

wrrr

// true: print fps
#define BENCHMARK true
// true: break synchronisation
#define SAM_MODE false

#define WIDTH 300
#define HEIGHT 200
#define FRAMES 3

static_assert(FRAMES > 0, "why?");
#define IMAGE_COUNT (FRAMES == 1 ? 2 : FRAMES)

i am good at

c programming

[rough bloom]

SAM_MODE

[sage crag]

even with SAM_MODE=1, mine still blocks on more than sam's

evilDentge

i can only reach 108k fps with 3 frames in flight

with 1 its something like 48k with SAM_MODE

though, i dont have my fps counter on a separate thread

[rough bloom]

is the separate thread necessary anyway

[mossy fossil]

I'd rather not talk about rune in general ngl. i'll never unsee some of the stuff they made - i'm traumatised for life.

[sage crag]

probably not, but i cant tell how much the cpu pressure affects fps

[rough bloom]

[sage crag]

looks like it does

if i add this:

if (fps % 1000 == 0) {
}

to the time-checking code, to make it happen 1000x less, the fps does go up

problem is that its suddenly limited to multiples of 1000 because

well, modulo

perf report when the fps counter is on

[rough bloom]

gettime significant percentage of runtime?

[sage crag]

vs with it off

[rough bloom]

oh
gettime still there

[sage crag]

ye but less

i really dont know what that 8.92% is

ohh

address

its a kernel address

probably some trampoline from malloc or calloc

why is it allocating

neuroExplode

vkQueueSubmit2

[rough bloom]

RADV

[sage crag]

its you

i should make my own allocator

sam has his own iirc

[rough bloom]

I don't think so

[sage crag]

i could just make a bump allocator and obliterate all of those allocations

[rough bloom]

ye it doesn't touch memory allocation at all
only special thing it does is set thread affinity and priority, other than that it's just the Vulkan code

[sage crag]

i dont do any thread affinity stuff

but i can just use gamemode

[rough bloom]

thread priority useful but should already be set by gamemode
thread affinity probably doesn't matter too much, but heavily depends on how the systems scheduler is set up I think

[sage crag]

doesnt actually appear to reduce calloc or malloc calls

maybe its internal

[rough bloom]

ye
probably happening in Mesa

[sage crag]

drivers

MADDIES

user@nixos ~/c/vrrr> gamemoderun ./result
Gtk-Message: 10:17:19.414: Failed to load module "colorreload-gtk-module"
103491
102713
108546
108040
109327
108893
107963
107552

SAM_MODE, 3 frames in flight, gamemode, 7x6 width

seems to be producing 109k fps

user@nixos ~/c/vrrr> gamemoderun ./result
Gtk-Message: 10:17:55.273: Failed to load module "colorreload-gtk-module"
102233
110175
111062

3x3 goes up to 111k

[rough bloom]

[sage crag]

at 1080p, 44k

[rough bloom]

there's still a difference between 7x6 and 3x3

unexpected

[sage crag]

ye because

mine not broken

[rigid snow]

3p gaming

[sage crag]

btw sam triangle on same settings

[nix-shell:~/code/vulkan]$ gamemoderun output/vulkan
Selected GPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 6-Core Processor (RADV RAPHAEL_MENDOCINO)
0
107418
107548
107621
107454
108026
109018
109446
109268

sam triangle broke though, 1 frame in flight same as 3 frames in flight

enub

wrr

[rigid snow]

🍌

[sage crag]

   26    51   596 src/common_structs.hpp
  216   423  7317 src/main.cpp
   58   165  2886 src/vk_command.cpp
   16    61   925 src/vk_command.hpp
  210   509  8256 src/vk_device.cpp
   30    65  1083 src/vk_device.hpp
  355   896 15574 src/vk_frames.cpp
   37   100  1686 src/vk_frames.hpp
   21    49   878 src/vk_sync.cpp
   12    23   342 src/vk_sync.hpp
  981  2342 39543 合計

sam triangle actually have

things in it

that make it work

konii triangle 200 line monster

[faint sandal]

合計

[sage crag]

    3    18   110 ../vrrr/vrrr.frag
  236   762  9711 ../vrrr/vrrr.c
   21    76   633 ../vrrr/default.nix
    8    30   205 ../vrrr/vrrr.vert
  268   886 10659 合計

i think the shortest i had it was ~75 lines

but

it cheating

also my triangle requires

vk1.3

[rigid snow]

now slather macros all over it

it’s the chess bot comp all over again

[sage crag]

[nix-shell:~/code/vrrr]$ tcount vrrr.c
──────────────────────
Group Files Tokens
──────────────────────
C 1 1545
──────────────────────

nearly fits

the issue would be fitting the shaders

they would never fit

[nix-shell:~/code/vrrr]$ tcount ../vulkan/src
──────────────────────
Group Files Tokens
──────────────────────
C 2 38570
C++ 10 5512
──────────────────────
o7 sam

ignore the c though, thats volk

code2prompt

ok time for breakfast

[rigid snow]

what is that

why

what

[rough bloom]

reverse vibe coding

[sage crag]

banana bot

name it

nana

now to use my functioning vulkan game engine to make a game

[rough bloom]

(I assume it just gives you the content of files in a directory so you can paste into ChatGPT, similar to gitingest)

[sage crag]

[rough bloom]

game

[sage crag]

it doesnt even have the capability for animated shaders

[potent birch]

using my brain reading the intruduction of godot is giving me headache lmao

i shouldve used my blue light glasses kek

[noble python]

Hi, just a silly question: is it just me, or has Vedal switched to RLM? Neuro has changed a lot, I suspect, but I might be wrong.

I'm implementing it myself right now 🙂 Well, I recently lost three months of work, so I figured I might as well try it out right away.

[hard delta]

konii...

i might have made you a powerful enemy by accident

[tender river]

reverse engineering tool

it convert

incomprehensible mess

(code)

into

plaintext

[sage crag]

youve done this

"accident" is a strong word

@tender river should i make doughnut or cupcake

doughnut pros: tasty
cons: hot oil

190c hot oil

[sage crag]

im making doughnuts

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-snoopa-lord-foog-dog-funny-gif-20125052

[rigid snow]

llm optimized token efficient code representation

https://github.com/toon-format/toon

[sage crag]

doug

[sage crag]

dente

[rigid snow]

[rigid snow]

didnt he retire

[sage crag]

dog

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-snoopa-lord-foog-dog-funny-gif-20125052

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-siren-dawg-with-the-light-on-him-sailorzoop-dog-gif-2844905554045249724

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421861060507602944/1425936142754123927/neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf.webp

im following recipe

[tender river]

rr me late

[sage crag]

https://www.womanscribbles.net/basic-fried-donuts/

me never make doughnut before

"follow" loosely

as in, half all measurements, convert to sensible units, round up to nice values, then add more of any ingredient until i think the dough is okay

now i wait 1 hour 18 minute

for proofing timer

proving timer

whatever

[tender river]

firefox have builtin unit converter

[sage crag]

ye

[tender river]

me enter

375 fahrenheit to celsius

[sage crag]

on mobile the calculator is stupid

[sage crag]

190ish

the thermometer here doesnt go that high

ill just cook them 1 by 1 and do some experimentation

if recipe is accurate i should have anywhere between 13-17 doughnuts

[tender river]

2-3 inches of oil

[sage crag]

sigh

filtered by

oil

[sage crag]

usually you would deep fry them

this is a shallow fry in comparison

[tender river]

[sage crag]

ermfish

do not fry

[sage crag]

canola oil

i have "vegetable" oil

american

[tender river]

me not even know how to eat fish let alone cook

[sage crag]

some fish can eat raw

[hard delta]

first you consume the fish
then you choke for a good 10-20 minutes

[sage crag]

fish have lots of parasites but not many that can cross between 2 billion years of divergent evolution

https://youtu.be/WuaMWNPm9OU

[tender river]

parasite pass the parasite

no wrong song

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1455273822625333375.webp?size=48

[hard delta]

in my case the fish was fried and supposedly had few of the smol bones
sadly, few is more than zero, and one snuck in for a little critical damage

[sage crag]

inhale

why is pigeon gyroscope weak

chicken gyroscope much better

[tender river]

angry pigeon

[sage crag]

pigon

[fast torrent]

what about the bird that stays in the air completely still

[sage crag]

that called a

drone

humming bird

[tender river]

you mean colibri?

[fast torrent]

Nah not the one

[sage crag]

humming birt

[tender river]

ohisee colibri called hummingbird in english

[sage crag]

calibri

calibre

[tender river]

bookwalker

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/my-jolly-reaction-jolly-my-honest-reaction-gif-5490890317762380451

[real sierra]

jollymas is over

[fast torrent]

kestrel
this bad boy

[tender river]

https://tenor.com/view/my-jolly-reaction-jolly-my-honest-reaction-gif-5490890317762380451

[real sierra]

jollymas over

[sage crag]

most birds of prey can remain in one place

they do it to hunt

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/jolly-christmas-posting-jolly-cat-christmas-this-cat-looks-at-jolly-people-gif-4925436984769801382

[fast torrent]

really? I thought it is something special

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

kestrels are really good at it

but most of them can

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/jiggy-jolly-get-jiggy-get-jolly-get-jolly-with-it-gif-13651478034157223092

banana glorp alliance

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421861060507602944/1425936142754123927/neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf.webp

[tender river]

so cuuuute

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-pats-pet-bunny-pats-gif-19861222

the original message has

15 stars

and the starboard message has

31 stars

and somehow that translates to

37 stars

[tender river]

duplicate

[sage crag]

[tender river]

january already have

more mention of banana

than december

[hard delta]

[sage crag]

dough update

[tender river]

that why they

doughnut

[sage crag]

[tender river]

nut because original size

[sage crag]

dente

[tender river]

not very nut sized nowadays

[trim valve]

look like

seal

[tender river]

omg by seal

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421861060507602944/1425936142754123927/neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf.webp

[sage crag]

omg_by_seal

smog frog

[tender river]

me invite them yesterday

#general-network message

[sage crag]

wrr

[tender river]

didnt know they were fa

[warped narwhal]

after many trials and tribulations, I have managed to get my homelab setup

[rough bloom]

[hard delta]

whale! home! labrador!

[fast torrent]

define homelab

[rigid snow]

🏠 🧪

🍌

[tender river]

homelabanana

[fast torrent]

[hard delta]

[tender river]

wait till you read

their username

[trim valve]

I should stream soldering in vc

surely it wouldn't go badly

[tender river]

want to get into hardware too some day

maybe make me own kb

[trim valve]

hardware is cool

pro tip tho

stick to literally anything with docs

preferably English ones

[tender river]

me decide to learn chinese will probably take less time than whenever i get around to doing anything with hw

me learn with

japanese video on learning chinese

[trim valve]

nee

use

vedal987_cn

[tender river]

cant read

well

maybe like 5-10%

that i know from japanese

i will also hear english so its probably not a super horrible way to learn, even if not that good either

[tender river]

very useful

[sage crag]

updough

[tender river]

look same from that perspective no scale reference

need

banana

[tender river]

what the hell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-fried_Mars_bar

[rough bloom]

of course it's from the UK

[tender river]

oh i wanted to make cupcakes today but only felt like sleeping need buy sugar and vanilla

maybe make choco cupcakes since have leftover ganache

[warped narwhal]

nuh huh

it's from the superior country

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[rough bloom]

you may have noticed that I specifically said "UK" instead of England

but yes

[warped narwhal]

nah when you say the uk everyone thinks of england

[hard delta]

deep fried oreo

[warped narwhal]

I've told someone I'm from the north of the uk and they replied "oh are you around Newcastle"

I had to remind them I'm from the northern north of the UK

[warped narwhal]

it's delicious, but not many places will make it for you cause it fucks the oil for the rest of the day.

You'd be better off getting an unused pot and filling it with oil to make it yourself.

[noble python]

English and delicious food... no, they don't go together, take it from a Frenchman.

[elfin holly]

[tender river]

theres apparnetly

deep fried ice cream

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fried_ice_cream

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1349755103040503868.png?size=160&name=AtorinConfused

[warped narwhal]

A pizza crunch goes along great with that

[rigid snow]

i've had this

here

in a restaurant

[tender river]

me not dine out too broke

[rigid snow]

or a cafe i don't fucking remember

[visual pawn]

In Australia, fried ice cream is strongly associated with Asian cuisine and particularly Australian Chinese cuisine.
It's kinda funny how some items become "chinese" or other ethnic cuisine

apparently deep-fried banana is a staple in finnish chinese restaurants

[rigid snow]

ye i think it was branded as an asian thing? when i had it

i don't know this was ages ago

[shadow sinew]

I member those from Chinese restaurants.

[visual pawn]

meanwhile actual chinese desserts are supposed to not be very sweet, and the general compliment for them is to call the dessert "not too sweet"

I remember my parents giving me a candy they apparently loved as kids in china and when I tried it I swear I was eating unflavoured chalk

[tender river]

i once tried tofu pudding dessert and hated it

[visual pawn]

this thing?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/David_enjoying_Dòuhuā.jpg/500px-David_enjoying_Dòuhuā.jpg

[tender river]

yea

[visual pawn]

it's supposed to be sweet but anyone who grew up with a western palate will be barely able to tell

[tender river]

no it was sweet to me

[visual pawn]

just the texture then?

[tender river]

i just didnt like the taste of tofu

oh but durian didnt taste sweet to me it tasted savory

[olive sable]

im back on nixos

when i went to do my exam my windows blue black screened when i went to click start

had to do it on pen and paper

[visual pawn]

were you doing it remotely?

[olive sable]

nope

laptop

[visual pawn]

they let you bring your own laptop to do it on?

[olive sable]

ye

their websitre back-end shows when yo unfocus the window and stuff

[sage crag]

i had spare dough

[olive sable]

and they also just patrol the room

[sage crag]

and i ate it

and now

my tummy feel bad

[tender river]

[sage crag]

heating up oil

11 doughnuts

no thermometer

[olive sable]

raw dough? i love raw dough

[sage crag]

nothing will go wrong and i wont be horribly disfigured

[tender river]

good luck

[visual pawn]

just don't check the temperature with your finger

[trim valve]

procrastination takes done

now time to figure out how realistic streaming in VC is

[sage crag]

[tender river]

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

does your frying oil device thing not have a temperature setting?

[sage crag]

saucepan

[tender river]

frying oil device

[olive sable]

saucepan????

do yall not use a friteuse?

i cant find the english word

[rigid snow]

ye everyone has a mcdonalds frier in their house twin

[olive sable]

ye we do????

thats not normal????

[rigid snow]

what

[tender river]

some people swear by their deep frier but definitely not common

[olive sable]

just search friteuse bruv

[shadow sinew]

Or spend $10 and get a thermometer.

[tender river]

she has one just not one that goes up to 200C

buying just for one recipe decided to do on a whim that can be done without a thermometer

[olive sable]

how do you know?

[rigid snow]

i know these exist but definitely not common at all to have them
one reason being you have to use a ton of oil even if you need to fry little

[olive sable]

i swear most houses here have them

how else you gonna make fries?

[tender river]

i dont make fries

[rigid snow]

you don't or use a pan

[olive sable]

[tender river]

nobody makes fries at home or if they do they do it in an oven

[olive sable]

what the hell

[rigid snow]

in an oven

[sage crag]

my parents used to

in oven if lazy in fryer if not

test 1

[rigid snow]

i feel like air fryers are way more common

[sage crag]

oil too hot

[rigid snow]

that's raw

dough

[sage crag]

ye

[olive sable]

so yall dont eat frikandel at home?
no vuurvreters?

im realizing none of these words have english translations

this is such a shame

[sage crag]

test 2

[rigid snow]

STILL RAW KONII

[olive sable]

id eat that

[sage crag]

ye

i know

[rigid snow]

don't

[sage crag]

how else find temp

[rigid snow]

finger

[azure lynx]

and that's what's wrong with America. ;[

[olive sable]

the only thing stopping me is the north sea being between me and london

[rough bloom]

ye, fries go in oven
air fryer is just smaller (better) convection oven

[shadow sinew]

Might need to fry twice. Once at a lower temp to cook through and then at a higher one to crisp up.

[tender river]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1349755103040503868.png?size=160&name=AtorinConfused

[rough bloom]

frying with oil seems inconvenient and expensive

[tender river]

how america related

[olive sable]

yall are savages

[rigid snow]

don't make fries in the oven or in an air fryer wtf

they'd suck

[olive sable]

make fries in the frietpot godverdomme

[shadow sinew]

Yeah, oven fries are always a disappointment.

[rough bloom]

this is true, oven fries suck

heard that air fryer is better
but never tried

[trim valve]

wrr

[azure lynx]

i originally come from a country that did fish and chips. so i know how the fries should be.

[trim valve]

since when was amongus car ptt

[olive sable]

in the frietpot

only correct answer

[azure lynx]

fried in oil in a metal basket

[olive sable]

yes

[rigid snow]

basket

is crazy

[sage crag]

om

[olive sable]

what else you gonna call it?

[rigid snow]

oh like a mesh one

or?

[azure lynx]

yeah. just wire walls

[rough bloom]

but then you have to deal with the oil
annoying

[trim valve]

now to figure out what do

[visual pawn]

no one has that here

[visual pawn]

air fryer

[sage crag]

the oil

is burning

fire alarm

[visual pawn]

tbh air fryer/convection oven fries aren't bad, they're acceptable

[rough bloom]

konii please do not start a fire

[sage crag]

ok but if i did

what would you say

[visual pawn]

way better than oven fries at least

[tender river]

well done

[rough bloom]

good luck with the insurance claim

[azure lynx]

cover the burning oil with a lid

[tender river]

cover the burning oil in oil

[azure lynx]

cooking with hot oil requires planning for emergencies

[sage crag]

i know how to put out an oil fire me not idiot

[azure lynx]

not everyone does.

[rigid snow]

wait for it to rain

[visual pawn]

yeah, you need a long stick for your bucket of water https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KHvnLJ81SgU?feature=share

[rigid snow]

[rigid snow]

i liket his one

[visual pawn]

also the rare times I ever deep fry anything I use my wok

[tender river]

wok yum

there used to be a wok cafe in domodedovo which was like the only non-overpriced cafe in the entire airport

[azure lynx]

i think a deep frying setup would not help my goal of "eat healthier". it would result in "cook more" though which indirectly might help.

[rigid snow]

i gave up on trying to eat at airports a long time ago

[trim valve]

w/e me just no talk

[rigid snow]

starving just makes more sense financially

[visual pawn]

how I ended up successfully forcing myself to cook more was to give myself a restaurant quota and to order ingredients by subscription

so if I didn't use ingredients I'd be forced to pile them up

so I had to do something with them

[tender river]

oh i think in vnukovo? theres an obscure cafe intended for employees where anyone can go technically

[rigid snow]

trespassleaf

[sage crag]

im losing it

[tender river]

surely next one

halving recipe was a mistake because

half of the donuts used to gauge optimal temperature

[tender river]

[sage crag]

grr

[tender river]

rr

[sage crag]

this would be great if

the raw part was actually made of cheese

and it was a fried bagel

also i burned myself a bit

[tender river]

deep fried nur

[sage crag]

doughnut graveyard

I GOT ONE

[olive sable]

you know you only need to replace the oil once in like 15 uses right?

[rough bloom]

yes

[olive sable]

pathetic

[hard delta]

i saw this video

[sage crag]

frying

sucks

[hard delta]

where bro didn't change the oil

just put some magic dust in it

that cleansed it

all the non-oil turning into a clump of stuff that he removed in one piece from the oil

[olive sable]

the dirt doesn't just magically dissapear, and i wouldn't want to be eating something dipped in dirt cleaning solution

[visual pawn]

it's a thing that congeals the oil into a solid

so you can throw it away in trash

because you don't want to put oil down the sink

[hard delta]

i do actually

i want to do it all the time

[visual pawn]

I hope you don't own where you live then

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

Exclusive footage of our friteuse

its dirty i know

for the british people here, look a kettle

[visual pawn]

I'm american, what's a kettle?

[tender river]

me keep kettle near pc

[hard delta]

does the oil attract the big rat

that makes the rules

[tender river]

drink tea any time

[visual pawn]

actually I'm a bad american, I do have a kettle

[olive sable]

i don't really use the kettle that much since most stuff i need boiling water for i use the stove and a pot

i forgot we even had a kettle

[visual pawn]

or rather I have a hot water dispenser

[rough bloom]

I don't think I could do that even if I wanted to
risk of overloading circuit

[olive sable]

damn

does a kettle use that much electricity?

[rough bloom]

~3 kW

[olive sable]

1500-3000 watts

what the fuck

[rough bloom]

need a lot of power because you want the water to heat up quickly

dumping a lot of energy into the water very quickly is kinda the whole point

[hard delta]

3000 whats

[visual pawn]

the peak will depend on where you are though, like UK plugs have a higher voltage

[olive sable]

i know kitchens have higher amp rating sockets, but thats still a lot

[tender river]

my kettle uses 2k

[hard delta]

when i want tea i just run a crypto miner and put a cup on my gpu

[tender river]

i once spilled tea and it flowed below my laptop and boiled

i keep my laptop raised now

[visual pawn]

americans instead all have coffee makers

[rigid snow]

the crypto mining space heater thing unironically lives rent free in my head

[hard delta]

so

in the dorms

a guy had an actual crypto mining rig

with like 4-6 gpus in it

[rigid snow]

asic or gpu spam

aha

[visual pawn]

I used a crypto miner to heat my apartment in uni

[hard delta]

and kept it in a basement room while he was away for half a year on some scholarship thingie in china

[olive sable]

we also have coffee makers tho.
we have a kettle and a coffee maker

impresive i know

[hard delta]

he was found out because some maintenance guy noticed that the door to that room was hot

it was like a consistent 45C in there

[tender river]

i am the coffee maker

i make coffee

[hard delta]

(disregarding the jet engine sounds)

[visual pawn]

I've had so many arguments with people arguing that a computer/miner is "less efficient" in producing heat than a space heater

[rigid snow]

gpus sucked for a while, ethereum is proof-of-stake since what, 2021? eth was the popular one that didn't make sense to build asics for but still benefited from the compute being gpu

[hard delta]

[olive sable]

my dad bought one of those fancy coffee makers that grounds the beans and has an lcd touchscreen and all that shit
its cool but damn who spends that much on coffee machine???

[visual pawn]

you won't believe how many times I've heard the "the electricity is being used on computation, not heat" point

[sage crag]

wrr

@tender river

[tender river]

lot of people are very passionate about coffee

[sage crag]

[tender river]

[visual pawn]

it's up there with the "you need to make your computer cooling worse if you want your computer to make more heat"

[tender river]

donut

[hard delta]

people who deal with life and pain by being busy (and needing not to be tired to stay busy)

[rigid snow]

good coffee machines are like $2k+

[olive sable]

its not like a coffee machine with an lcd touscreen is gonna grind beans that differently

[tender river]

lcd cheap nowadays

[hard delta]

i ordered a computer for $2.3k
wouldn't spend on coffee machine

[tender river]

can even be a cost saving measure

[rigid snow]

ye there's a reason it called coffee machine and not a coffee grinder

[opaque sigil]

Convenience is nice

Especially in the morning when you're tired

[sage crag]

tastes like

the beach

nostalgia

[hard delta]

not a fan of sand's taste
tried when i was in kindergarten

[olive sable]

did you get sand in your doughnuts maybe?

[sage crag]

no

idiot

[tender river]

doughnut success

eventual

[sage crag]

fried doughnuts on the seafront

[rigid snow]

beach for breakfast

[hard delta]

ahem

[olive sable]

people at the beach do happen to eat bereakfast on occasion

like every day

[tender river]

for coffee me use random chinese electric grinder and a phin

it lowest effort possible

without using coffee machine

[rigid snow]

for coffee me go 10 meter to convenience store

they have coffee machine

[olive sable]

i dont drink coffee

not daily at least, i drink it when visiting people

social drinking basically

[tender river]

true

it taste bad though

[rigid snow]

social drinking (coffee)

[hard delta]

hence the glass of milk

[tender river]

well nescafe is still on the good side

but nestle ew

[olive sable]

i mean, same thing with alcohol

im not an alcoholic but at a party i do drink some champagne or whatever

[rigid snow]

fancy

champagne at a party

[olive sable]

family events and such msotly

im not a party person

[hard delta]

small bottle of whiskey big bottle of coke 🥃

[tender river]

me drink half a bottle of vodka month ago didnt affect me much acted mostly same as normal

[mossy fossil]

my beloved national brand (of Coffee)... Delta.

[tender river]

with tonic me not psycho

[olive sable]

[mossy fossil]

not that delta

[olive sable]

there is no other delta

[mossy fossil]

https://deltacafes.com/

there is another

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

wrr

anyway

[mossy fossil]

Delta is literally everywhere coffee related where i'm at

[sage crag]

cinnamon sugar on fried doughnuts

seaside thing

[rigid snow]

you should glaze them

[tender river]

after choco cupcake me try cinnamon maybe

[olive sable]

"damn doughnut you looking good"

[rigid snow]

[tender river]

you're absolutely right!

[sage crag]

i was gonna

but

my will to live was crumbling

so i ate them all

[rough bloom]

The Gluttonous Beast

[tender river]

i never tried kneading dough just used a bread machine i should try making bread in oven

donut without thermometer scary

[olive sable]

kneading dough is a pain. bread machine way easir

but machine costs money

[tender river]

me have

[olive sable]

me not

[tender river]

got for free

[olive sable]

my grandma had one of those bread kneader machine for 25 years

it was a sad day when it died

[sage crag]

its pretty easy

[tender river]

not convincing

[tender river]

banana cheese

cheese banana

[sage crag]

shimo

i made

doughnuts

[tender river]

<-

[sage crag]

hardest part

not burning myself by accident

second hardest part

not undercooking the doughnut in burning oil

third hardest part

making the dough usable after messing with the ingredients

[tender river]

[real sierra]

donut.c

[tender river]

ioccc

[olive sable]

[tender river]

hmm me try if find canola oil and uht milk

[sage crag]

i used

"vegetable oil"

also called FILTERED oil

[real sierra]

actually look really good

konii good at donut

[sage crag]

minsmig

[tender river]

i think its canola oil

probably

[sage crag]

its got a different name in the UK

that i cant say due to automod

[tender river]

ye still same thing

[olive sable]

oh

i googled it

[visual pawn]

yeah it's canola that is the filteredseed oil

[olive sable]

i see now why

[sage crag]

they were

look how many died to produce these 5

i will say that none of those 5 were undercooked

[olive sable]

why were the sacreficed?

[tender river]

temperature

[sage crag]

temperature

[olive sable]

its still edible no?

[tender river]

raw dough

[sage crag]

ye but i dont want to

i gave it to the fox

[olive sable]

damn

wait

fox?

[sage crag]

ye

[olive sable]

i cant cook well but i have this instead

[sage crag]

fry them

[olive sable]

no

[sage crag]

another baking pull request submitted

doughnuts

[tender river]

is refined or unrefined oil better for this

ohisee refined better

higher smoke point

cant find

snuflower good enough maybe

[olive sable]

i think all the oil we have is sunflower ye

[tender river]

me use olive oil for salad and sunflower for cooking

[olive sable]

ye same

we keep the sunflower one pretty stocked up tho cuz friteuse uses a lot

[opaque sigil]

i like using walnut oil for salad, is yummy

[rigid wolf]

gimme

[olive sable]

no

is for me

[trim valve]

streaming is weird

[sage crag]

ideally you dont get to the smoke point

[trim valve]

idk how people do it

[rigid wolf]

but I wanna

[sage crag]

you should be doing it at 375f or 190c

[rigid wolf]

[sage crag]

i got it to the smoke point though

no thermometer

[tender river]

ye might just buy one

[sage crag]

would make it a lot easier

[rough bloom]

I think you did pretty well though

[sage crag]

i think it was about 20-30 seconds either side when it was at the "right" temperature

[tender river]

need sugar thermometer too for

scottish tablet and

fudge

[trim valve]

[olive sable]

you're not even yellow

[tender river]

short

[rigid wolf]

bro discriminates against the non yellow

[tender river]

make sense with that temperature

[sage crag]

ye

anyway, they need to be fairly dark

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

if you look at my images, about that dark

if its lighter its probably undercooked

[tender river]

ye like

сушка color

[sage crag]

additionally, if it gets that dark faster than 20 odd seconds, your oil is way too hot

[tender river]

[sage crag]

Sendaihappy

also

dont set a fire

or

touch the thingy you used in hot oil 5 seconds ago

[tender river]

ok

[true hemlock]

either banana or gtfo imo

[olive sable]

arson is a suboptimal route

[tender river]

thanks for the typ

[sage crag]

i did both

[tender river]

tip tpyo

[sage crag]

fire

and burn myself

the result

6 of 11 doughnuts died

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

5 of 11 doughnuts were eaten

0 doughnuts remain

[tender river]

was the sacrifice worth it

[sage crag]

no

[olive sable]

those poor fallen souls

[tender river]

[sage crag]

i could have gone to the beach by train

and bought doughnuts

from nearly anywhere

it was fun though

why is osu still open

[tender river]

worth it

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1425866336265043978.png?size=160&name=MiniYayClassic

[tender river]

hope it heals quickly though

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-snoopa-lord-foog-dog-funny-gif-20125052

[olive sable]

did you run it under cold water?

[sage crag]

dont run under cold water

run under cool water

cold water after burn cause additional tissue damage

[olive sable]

whats the difference between cold and cool?

[sage crag]

temperature

[olive sable]

i didnt even know there was a difference

[tender river]

dont run under cool water

run under cool water

[sage crag]

cool water just lower than the room temp

cold water cold

[olive sable]

cool water

i dont understand the english language

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1421861060507602944/1425936142754123927/neuroCatModeOfOfnnfOOf.webp

[olive sable]

water that is lacking warmth and affection

[rigid wolf]

anyways I don even do programming I just come in here once every week for fun and see what yall do

[tender river]

maybe i should try making sushki myself

[rigid wolf]

its always abt cooking

[tender river]

baking

this is

#baking

[rigid wolf]

99% cooking/baking and 1% coding

[tender river]

random nerd come in this channel

[visual pawn]

baking is kinda like programming in that uhh, there are instructions

[olive sable]

cooking food and gpus

[rigid wolf]

gpus?

[olive sable]

🔺

[true hemlock]

no triangle today because my 2x8gb godbin isn't working well for some reason and my 4x32 refuses to boot now

[rigid wolf]

oh das cool

[true hemlock]

maybe tomorrow

[rigid wolf]

your what now?

[olive sable]

the godbin

[rigid wolf]

ah

idk what that is

[true hemlock]

4x32 stuck in bootloop

fuck

[rigid wolf]

thats not very osu

[plush nacelle]

continue

[olive sable]

no you continue

[rigid wolf]

human without embed perms

[sage crag]

annoying

[rigid wolf]

wha

[olive sable]

human without yellow nor mallowcakes

[rigid wolf]

who

[rigid wolf]

[true hemlock]

no banana not valid

[olive sable]

i misspelled mellowcakes in googlwe and got flashed

[sage crag]

wuuck

i made doughnut

[rigid snow]

drying color

[sage crag]

deep fry

banana

[rigid snow]

do

it

[true hemlock]

https://x.com/ginaughtty/status/2006774003361525849?s=46

Mira 🪑 (@Ginaughtty)

so i was looking for RAM references but every stick had the brand cover and i wanted to draw the one without it and i searched "naked ram"

i now remember Rem has a pink haired twin

X · Jan 1, 2026, 5:06 PM

[trim valve]

o yeah

funny soldering fact

that whole stream was on a power bank

used 1% charfe

[true hemlock]

can we bully the bred into banana bred

[tender river]

do not

bred should keep current color

[trim valve]

#programming message

[tender river]

allow

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-pats-pet-bunny-pats-gif-19861222

[olive sable]

bred said pink cuz mental health

[tender river]

[olive sable]

so ill allow it

[trim valve]

[true hemlock]

[sage crag]

"you" will

[olive sable]

i meant the pink

[sage crag]

me stream

[olive sable]

not the bullying

[sage crag]

uuh

dropped frames

monka

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

lowered bitrate

[mossy fossil]

i got bored.

[hard delta]

sus

teal/azure/etc where

[rigid snow]

is it normal i thought nothing of the message

programming very on topic me used to random shit

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

Hello I hope whatever happens here goes well

[olive sable]

what message

[nocturne olive]

What even happens here today anyway?

[olive sable]

i think the main thing was donuts

doughnuts? donuts?

wut

[nocturne olive]

Hem?

[rigid snow]

someone said “i just had to stand outside in -6 celsius for 40 min” and deleted

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

i’m feeling like gambling and i think i found a fun way to

i’m gonna train a nn to trade crypto

(rng)

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

you fucking donut

[nocturne olive]

So basically a money losing machine

[visual pawn]

I can't believe I understood that as train neurotic neurons to trade crypto before neural network

[maiden basalt]

was searching for something to make chat more readable to me, ended up with this chatterino filter if anyone interested

!(message.content match ri"(?i)(\S+(?:\s+\S+){1,12})(?:.*?\1\b){2,}") 
|| author.badges contains "moderator" 
|| author.badges contains "partner" 
|| author.badges contains "vip"

regex matches groups of 2-13 'words' with at least 2 occurences, should filter almost all the multiline spam messages

[rigid snow]

no no no it’s gambling not losing money there is a chance i make money

[visual pawn]

you'll just be competing with the thousands of other models out there

[rigid snow]

or, more importantly, you know

actual humans

[visual pawn]

train it to learn the exact moment to pull out of a memecoin

[rigid snow]

they’re called dumps for a reason

at an arbitrary time

how do you teach anything to predict that

[visual pawn]

maybe the average rug puller and pump and dumper has a trend for when they decide to do it

[nocturne olive]

Maybe there's just some human-based pattern to it

[rigid snow]

fees

[rigid snow]

maybe

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

the problem with trading ais from my understanding is that there are way way too many variables to account fot

[tender river]

actual trading companies also optimize for latency

but probably not important for some simple algo

[timber igloo]

all this computer stuff is so complicated, so the shutdown button shuts down or logs me out?

[rigid snow]

just move server closer to exchange

[visual pawn]

depends on what the shutdown button does