programming

[sage crag]

at 3032 celcis

[rigid snow]

ok maybe chill

[sage crag]

[tender river]

maybe heat

[sage crag]

chip

byè

vye

[rigid snow]

oh konii knoii look osdev look desmos

over there

[sage crag]

be

bhe

bye

[tender river]

byebye

mme leave

[rigid snow]

metaprogramming

:badone:

[hard raptor]

Meow

[rigid snow]

hiiiii

need to fill thi s channel wirh programming quickk

[hard raptor]

Oh yeah fo sho

Frick

Which language

[rigid snow]

arabic maybe

[hard raptor]

So like

if [ "$token" == "" ]
then
  echo "You did not specify the token"
  exit 1
fi

if [ "$1" != "abobus" ]
then
  bash "$0" abobus && bash lib/end.sh
  exit
fi
source lib/import.sh

bot "$token"

if $debug; then echo "logged in, probably"; fi
while true
do
  receive
  if $(cat pipe/broken); then break; fi
  type="$(echo $event | jq -r .t)"
  if [ "$type" == "MESSAGE_CREATE" ]
  then
    content="$(echo $event | jq -r .d.content)"
    cmd="$(echo $content | cut -d ' ' -f 1)"
    author="$(echo $event | jq -r .d.author.id)"
    bot="$(echo $event | jq -r .d.author.bot)"
    msg="$(echo $event | jq -r .d.id)"
    channel="$(echo $event | jq -r .d.channel_id)"

    if [ "$cmd" == "sh!crash" ]
    then
      payload '{}'
    elif [ "$cmd" == "sh!hi" ]
    then
      message="<@$author>, hello!"
      post channels/$channel/messages '{"content":"'"$message"'"}' > /dev/null
    elif [ "$cmd" == "sh!status" ]
    then
      args="$(echo $content | cut -d ' ' -f 2-)"
      args="$(raw $args)"
      payload '{
        "op" : 3,
        "d" : {
          "status" : "online",
          "since" : 0,
          "afk" : false,
          "activities" : [{
            "name" : "'"$args"'",
            "type" : 0
          }]
        }
      }'
    elif [ "$cmd" == "sh!joke" ]
    then
      joke="$(curl -s https://v2.jokeapi.dev/joke/Programming)"
      if [ "$(echo $joke | jq -r .type)" == "single" ]
      then
        content="$(echo $joke | jq -r .joke)"
        content="$(raw $content)"
        post channels/$channel/messages '{"content":"'"$content"'"}' > /dev/null
      else
        setup="$(echo $joke | jq -r .setup)"
        setup="$(raw $setup)"
        delivery="$(echo $joke | jq -r .delivery)"
        delivery="$(raw $delivery)"
        post channels/$channel/messages '{"content":"'"$setup"'\n||'"$delivery"'||"}' > /dev/null
      fi
    fi
  fi
done

[rigid snow]

highly relevant to #baking

[rigid snow]

is this production software used by millions

[hard raptor]

I have been obsessed with bash lately

[hard raptor]

It is a discord bot entirely written in bash

[rigid snow]

intense

[tawdry glade]

bash is based

now a discord bot entirely written in powershell would be insanity

[rigid snow]

powershell is a more complete lang

so it would be less insane

i think

there's a reason they called it powershell

[hard raptor]

https://github.com/gXLg/Shellcord

There is technically some python and js code in here, but... those don't seem to he called upon by the bash files

[hard raptor]

I mean.. you can use bash to write basically anything.. for example.. a http server, using only bash, no curl, no netcat, no bs.. just things bash implements itself + optional bash built-ins

https://github.com/bahamas10/bash-web-server

[rigid snow]

yeah sure but something tells me it would be easier to do this sort of stuff in ps

[hard raptor]

I can't even begin to read pwsh code

Bash is atleast somwhat readable

[rigid snow]

skill issue probably

[hard raptor]

Also ik there is C files in here but i believe they're optional as the guy didn't use them in the yt video he made

[hard raptor]

Or just microsoft bad language design issue

[rigid snow]

(cs)

[hard raptor]

C#? That's their second beat work behind typescript.. and even those are bad

Useful

But bad

[rigid snow]

are you calling c# badly designed

that's insane

[hard raptor]

Yes

Hey.. atleast C# isn't as bad as C++

C++ is probably the worst widely used language

C# isn't even too bad... it's readable, it's usable.. but not at all comfortable for me to use

[rigid snow]

HOLY FUCK HOW

now whose fault is this

firefox team or zen team

ghis fucking browser makes my arm laptop push out heat and devour battery like a x86 one

[hard raptor]

There is a big os war going on in genchat holy shit

[opaque sigil]

I feel like there must be something very wrong with firefox on apple silicon, I keep seeing this

[rigid snow]

i brought this up last summer too but it was like 5x worse than now

still 5x worse than chromium though

and that's 5x worse than webkit

[hard raptor]

You mean safari?

Because you say chromium which is a browser

And then you say the web engine of safari

[rigid snow]

there are other browsers based on webkit which all perform really well

[hard raptor]

True

[rigid snow]

not just safari

it's just that webkit in and of itself is very barebones, it's literally a webview library nothing more

whereas chromium and firefox are full blown browsers

[trim valve]

is it not just the standard linux user

[rigid snow]

which is why people build browsers by modding those. with webkit you have to build your own everything

[trim valve]

"windows is ai bloatware which sets your psu on fire and steals your kids"

[rigid snow]

avg superbox take

[hard raptor]

Not if you throw atlas OS over it

[trim valve]

yeah then its just a broken install

and you should blame atlas devs not microsoft

[hard raptor]

It isn't broken at all for me lmao

[rigid snow]

atlas os is fine if i recall

it doesn't break a lot

[trim valve]

their website crashed my amd drivers

[hard raptor]

The only reason wsl amd my task manager don't work is because of a few mistakes i made after the atlas install

[hard raptor]

For me it didn't

[trim valve]

I probably just got unlucky on the amd gamble

[rigid snow]

task manager doesn't work

[amber fractal]

I respect those still on windows because they are most defently in different fields than I am, I don't think I can swap back.

[trim valve]

is this linux user "doesn't break a lot"

or does it actually manage to survive

[rough bloom]

IMO if you want debloated Windows just get the IoT LTSC version if possible
no scripts or modified installers necessary

[amber fractal]

[rigid snow]

ye i think it does? i recommended it to an irl friend with a 2012 mid range laptop and it has been completely fine ever since, i think he's still on it

oh "ever since" this was 2022

or 23

[trim valve]

[rigid snow]

i think vac freaked out initially? but that was a 10 minute fix

[glad path]

safari works very well for me honestly i dont get all the hate

[rigid snow]

safari is great if you want safari but i don't want safari

[plush nacelle]

what tts, language model neuro use

[rigid snow]

microsoft azure tts

"ashley" voice

pitched up

[rough bloom]

TTS based on Azure Ashley, language model nobody knows

[plush nacelle]

gr8

thx every1

[hard raptor]

But that is missing stuff i need actually... + some of the things Atlas adds i really like

[rigid snow]

ye atlas is great compat wise, the friend does all sorts of random shit, pro software, work software etc. 0 issues

[hard raptor]

I actually have a license for Windows Pro for workstations... and you bet imma use it lmao

[rigid snow]

exactly the reason why i brought this up i just forgot to mention

[hard raptor]

Atlas gets rid of the AI bs and the adware

[hard delta]

hey prog chat

do we like water cooling or do we think it's noisy and causes annoying maintenance issues

[quick condor]

I wonder how it would go if people were told R1/llama4 400b/Mistral large is what she uses

[rigid snow]

aio is a safe bet especially with how little they cost now

[quick condor]

I do it because I need it

[rough bloom]

noisy and causes annoying maintenance issues
unless it's an AIO, then it's usually okay

[rigid snow]

also custom loops cost

a lot

[hard raptor]

My AIO works perfectly

And it doesn't even make noise

[hard delta]

have you ever had to take an AIO to like a service guy / do anything with it / troubleshoot - hunt a strange noise?

[quick condor]

Custom loops can cost a lot but that really depends, especially if % of build cost is taken into account

[opaque sigil]

I don't like the idea of having to deal with a dying pump even if realistically that won't happen

[rigid snow]

not to a service guy but i had one gunk up after 4 years

[rough bloom]

I had to replace a gasket on mine because of a manufacturing defect, but other than that it's been great

definitely a greater chance of having issues than an air cooler though
there's just less that can go wrong there

[mossy fossil]

water cooling always felt like a gimmick in my eyes

[rigid snow]

oh it was corrosion actually not just generic gunk

[mossy fossil]

and a gimmick that can, one day, turn all of this expensive hardware into a very expensive paperweight

[quick condor]

It can be but its mainly a "move heat generated to somewhere it can effectively exhaust". Its more about the freedom to deal with heat somewhere else

[opaque sigil]

Water is also objectively better at soaking up heat

[trim valve]

I love random stupid ideas

[rough bloom]

tell

[quick condor]

Yes and no. it still gets transfered to air somewhere just not at the heat source

[trim valve]

so now I'm trying to convince myself not to buy an eGPU

[opaque sigil]

[trim valve]

because cuda is nice

[rigid snow]

direct die water cooling

[quick condor]

unless its an open loop, still needs heat to go somewhere

[rigid snow]

joek

i mean like

pump water over die

directly

only for genius

[rough bloom]

eGPU expensive

[quick condor]

Just connect a garden hose and let it go in and down a drain. no pump needed

[trim valve]

yee

contemplating other options

[opaque sigil]

pcie over usb

[rough bloom]

dGPU + OCuLink jank is cheaper

[trim valve]

I don't think I have an oculink port?

[rough bloom]

ye that somewhat exists but compatibility is shit IIRC

[rough bloom]

if you have a free NVMe port then you can have an OCuLink port

[trim valve]

sadly both nvme are taken

[mossy fossil]

the moment i see dedicated water cooling or massive heatsinks is the moment i think "yeah no this thing uses way too much power"

[trim valve]

with ssds

[opaque sigil]

tinygrad made it work for specifically amd GPUs iirc

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

Unless you want to count thunderbolt I guess

[olive sable]

bred needs to become banana bread

[trim valve]

can they just make ram cheaper

also funny thing

the razer core egpu thing is bigger than my case

[rough bloom]

NVIDIA too I think?
but it only works within tinygrad, kernel drivers don't work with it

[rigid snow]

bred banana 2026 campaign

[rough bloom]

oh ye
bred not banana yet

[mossy fossil]

koisee

[rough bloom]

join banana campaign 2026

[trim valve]

[hard raptor]

AIO gives more surface area on a radiator that can be more tightly packed than normal air coolers.. due to.. some things, infact.. the same size area of AIO radiator compared to air cooler already is like area cubed... due to the water flowing through the more tightly packed fins rather than justbsome heatpipes attached to fins, and becauss AIO usually has a radiator at least 3 times the size, it is closer to (Area • 3)³ compared to a normal air cooler

[nocturne olive]

Hello I hope whatever happens here is going well

[hard raptor]

Meaning AIO just performs way better

[opaque sigil]

[rough bloom]

everything Thunderbolt-to-PCIe (or everything Thunderbolt in general really) is also very expensive IIRC

[mossy fossil]

i'm not risking permanently damaging hardware just for "more efficient cooling"

[rigid snow]

is this actually true tho have you seen how big cpu towers get

[opaque sigil]

thermosiphon coolers when

[opaque sigil]

Signal integrity go brrrr

[nocturne olive]

Eh, swapping my CPU to an AIO barely changed thermal performance, maybe made it just a little bit better

[hard raptor]

The math checks out.. i actually done my research a few months back

[rigid snow]

360mm i can believe is better than any tower, 240mm less so

120 i don’t even know why they exist

[opaque sigil]

It's not that big of a difference with the massive air coolers but water coolers can avoid quick spikes in temperature which is nice

[nocturne olive]

For some reason my 360mm doesn't do that much better than my very basic tower cooler though

[hard raptor]

Max cooling capability not equals actual cooling power.. because the latter also relies on placement and environmental variables

[nocturne olive]

It's placed at the front of the case where it gets fully fresh air

[hard raptor]

I have mine at the top

[nocturne olive]

A 360mm wouldn't fit at my case's top part

[hard raptor]

I have a huge ass case

[opaque sigil]

You might also just not be outputting enough heat for it to matter

[mossy fossil]

we're in a point in technological history where companies just dump more power into the problem, thinking that'll magically make their hardware better. Remember when Fermi was collectively laughed at because of how ridiculous its power draw was? now nobody bats an eye with blackwell, despite using more than twice the maximum TDP that the GTX 480 used.

[nocturne olive]

I have a kinda big one, though it could be bigger considering I now have dual GPU and they're starving of air and I'm out of drive bays

[trim valve]

there is a big temptation to just make a watercooled brick of a pc next

like I think SFF is cool

but

very limited with air cooling

noone make 2 slot gpus

[rigid snow]

a 360 wouldn’t fit in my case even diagonally
i got an aio for aesthetics only and also kinda difficult to fit a big tower into my tower

pun not intended

[hard raptor]

I have an NZXT H9 Flow.. ik the controversies about the manufacturer.. but i had the case before i knew about that

[trim valve]

wait

[nocturne olive]

I have a Lian Li Lancool 2

[trim valve]

new dan case fits 3 slot

[true hemlock]

the thing with aio is not due to radiator

[nocturne olive]

I've basically used every single expansion option there is except for one SATA SSD spot

[true hemlock]

aio uses liquid which has better thermal transfer and capacity

[rigid snow]

thermal capacity probably ye as already mentioned

[true hemlock]

you get less hotspots and spikes

you can cool down higher thermal density better

[rigid snow]

boost for longer

[nocturne olive]

I guess it's reasonably even

[true hemlock]

it doesn't make any difference if your thermal density is low in the first place

that's why in superbox's case his doesn't make much difference

but you tend to have way better headroom

[rigid snow]

he just has to overclock it to hell

then it will

[true hemlock]

yeah

[nocturne olive]

Hem

I can already hit 100 C at this 5.2GHz OC though

[true hemlock]

also intel has a pretty good ihs and they used liquid metal in between the ihs and the die so lga 1700 is way easier to cool than am5

per watt

[true hemlock]

huh

[quick condor]

Im dealing with a total power draw at load of 1400w so standard cooling doesnt work well

[nocturne olive]

That being under loads like Steam Vulkan shader processing

[true hemlock]

you sure your pump is dynamically adjusted

[nocturne olive]

I think I've set it to full speed mode

[true hemlock]

as i've said many times before wattage measurements on cooling is never valid

especially when you're cooling multiple dies

i can make a 480mm cool 3000W if i was cooling like 8 GPUs with relatively low thermal density

AIO's thermal capacity is almost limitless. thermal density matters more because you want the heat transfer to be the one that keep up

im saying this as an extreme overclocker

[nocturne olive]

Maybe I just somehow got the most worst AIO ever which would be quite unlucky

[true hemlock]

nah i think your ihs beneath uses thermal paste instead of liquid metal

which is shitty design choice but oh well

[quick condor]

wattage is directly proportional to heat (btu) ejected. A 480mm radiator does have a theoretical maximum where increased airflow does not scale. the higher coolant temp is the greater delta t from intake air is but that has a limit too as above 100C you begin building presure

extreme OC is not sustained load over days

[nocturne olive]

Hem? The 12700K does that?

[quick condor]

If you ran your chips at extreme clocks for the periods of time Im working with you would run into degredation

[true hemlock]

wattage IS proportional to heat ejected but since your "1400W" airflow didn't even exceed beyond 60C, you can see it still has so much headroom

[true hemlock]

no one ran extreme overclocking on long period of time.

most of the time we only ran it for few seconds for clock validation

[quick condor]

exactly you arent saturating the loop with that

[true hemlock]

in cases like threadrippers we do run sustained 2000+ W load for multi core score

and a simple 360mm aio could actually handled it fine lmao

so long as it has the surface area that covers the whole ihs

and good enough pump curve

[quick condor]

thats more of a thermal transfer into the loop issue than out of it

[true hemlock]

what i've been saying?

9995wx can also handle 3000+ W but its for short validation

[quick condor]

right and when scaled to a loner period of time, heat ejected becomes an issue more than heat injected (aka stable temperature)

[true hemlock]

heat capacity

and liquid has good amount of it

[quick condor]

It does true. but capacity is just a buffer

[true hemlock]

so i'd say your 1400w isn't impressive

[true hemlock]

the eps could blow up lmao

[nocturne olive]

I wonder actually, does have any idea what could cause my network issue

[quick condor]

4,777 BTU/hr is significant enough to affect the room temperature especially when doing so for days straight

[true hemlock]

im not a network engineer

[nocturne olive]

Sily

[true hemlock]

nor im british so idk wtf is btu

[nocturne olive]

It's just a simple random issue where the network cuts but doesn't drop the link so it looks like it's still active but in reality I can't send anything anywhere including the router and the only way to regain internet is disconnect and reconnect so I just have a script doing that now
My prime suspect is the cable

[true hemlock]

my 3KW server heating up my server room to 50+ C lmao

[quick condor]

is 1204 kilocalories an hour better

[true hemlock]

fucking summer

joules better

[nocturne olive]

Everything that isn't the cable is basically ruled out, I've tried like 3 different network drivers, 2 different NICs, and two different router ports

[quick condor]

True, lets just say Im not going to be tuning in the summer ( or Im going to run the rad outside

[true hemlock]

could be the isp?

[nocturne olive]

I doubt it as the connection to even the router is lost and that would still be there if the ISP side was the bad one

[true hemlock]

we all fucking hates summer

[nocturne olive]

Also anyone else in the house doesn't have the issue, not even the other PC that's connected to a bridged port on the router and that I swapped ports with

[opaque sigil]

Sounds like you should try another cable

[nocturne olive]

It's easier said than done really with the distance

[true hemlock]

nah

any cables below 50m works just fine

[nocturne olive]

We still have 3 parts to suspect with the primary suspect cable, either either end connecting component, or the cable itself

[true hemlock]

i think you should try that

[nocturne olive]

This one also did for a long time, this issue only appeared very recently

[true hemlock]

considering that you're making excuses rn to not swap cable which means you haven't tried it

[nocturne olive]

It's not easy you know, the cable is behind a 600l aquarium on one section

[true hemlock]

just try it?

instead of complaining about your network scuff lmao

[rough bloom]

I still think you should open Wireshark and actually try and figure out the issue
physical cabling issues are possible but unlikely to cause permanent faults like this

or at least figure out how your network actually works at all

[true hemlock]

^

[nocturne olive]

And how is Wireshark gonna help with anything?

[true hemlock]

wireshark is a great help

[nocturne olive]

And what does it actually do then?

[rough bloom]

check traffic when it disconnects, see if there's anything unusual

[trim valve]

have you checked for any logs from Linux?

[nocturne olive]

I know nothing about Wireshark so I don't know what I'm supposed to do

[nocturne olive]

I've tried, not gotten much though, only some kind of weird queue timeout that seems to have crashed the system

That was when trying a different driver though

[hard delta]

what is amd gonna do now they ran out of 9s

[rough bloom]

9999wx, clearly

[hard delta]

i mean you don't have to swap it outright

just get a long cable and have it go through the rooms and doors and stuff

for the 10 minutes it takes to confirm the issue is gone or gonen't

maybe give your cat a new toy so it won't chew it up immediately

[nocturne olive]

I have no clue where I'd even find such cable, unless we still have more of the blue cable left

Hem
How work

How do I get this to do something useful for me

[visual pawn]

Several hours into working with the neuro-sdk and only now do I realize that "jippity" is a pun

[rough bloom]

first run it as root or fix pcap permissions so that you can actually capture traffic from your network interface
then you just start the capture and let it do its thing until it disconnects
then you can stop the capture and inspect what happened, like if there was some DHCP traffic or if there were lots of dropped packets (this is the difficult part)

[nocturne olive]

Hem

[lyric fulcrum]

Guys, I have an important question for you. I'm not a programmer, of course, but the question is important to me.

Do I really need good hardware for programming or is this just a small convention?

[nocturne olive]

You don't need it I think

It depends entirely on the software and toolchain

As long as you can run the language compiler or runtime or whatever, you should be able to program anything your system can handle

You may just need to optimize harder if you run on a potato

[visual pawn]

Depends on what you are doing really

But as a default assumption? No

But if you need super high end hardware then renting is an option

As in cloud stuff, but you probably only need that for stuff like training an AI model

[nocturne olive]

Yeah you only really need stupid high end hardware in case you're trying to train a production quality language model or something

[visual pawn]

The act of coding itself is using a glorified text editor so

If you can run a text editor, you can write code

[nocturne olive]

Yeah, usually the biggest load for compiled languages is the compiler, and on languages that use a runtime the runtime, and that's if you don't count your own program

[visual pawn]

All other considerations are about compiling and/or running the code/program

And for running your code (compiled or languages that don't need to be compiled) that depends on what you coded

[nocturne olive]

Like if you have a computer you probably can run gcc and a text editor, which is all you need to develop in C for example

[visual pawn]

If your concern is just "I wanna try/learn coding" then any piece of junk will work

Hell, your mobile phone would work

[nocturne olive]

Yeah especially as a beginner you'll either write something that runs on literally anything or is just impossible to run on anything due to a mistake

[lyric fulcrum]

I'm just planning to create a small AI bot for Minecraft in C#, but I can't find a good program since most of them are limited by my hard drives.

[nocturne olive]

Hem

[visual pawn]

What do you mean by an AI bot in this case

[nocturne olive]

"AI", as in machine learning or a hardcoded bot?

Also for Minecraft you will have to use either Java or Kotlin

Fortunately or unfortunately depending on who you ask

I like Kotlin, great little language

[visual pawn]

I've never worked with minecraft but does bedrock edition allow for anything C#?

Or is it absolutely locked down

[nocturne olive]

Bedrock edition doesn't allow really any modding

[lyric fulcrum]

A type of conditional player with built-in artificial intelligence

[nocturne olive]

You're better of with Java

[visual pawn]

So, the issue is that when we say artificial intelligence l

That encompasses a huge variety of possible implementations

[nocturne olive]

Yeah

Especially recently the super-heavy machine learning ANN stuff

[visual pawn]

A simple hard-coded bot that you program to just walk in a straight line and attack whatever it sees is AI

[lyric fulcrum]

I want him to know the simple mechanics of the game from the start, but also learn as he goes.

[visual pawn]

But you could also train a whole chatGPT level model and call it AI

Then you want machine learning

[nocturne olive]

Ok so you're looking for some sort of machine learning

Probably reinforcement learning

[visual pawn]

And this is where hardware becomes a big deal

[nocturne olive]

For that you're gonna need a GPU most likely

[visual pawn]

As for what GPU, it depends on how large (or how much capacity for learning) you want your AI to have

[nocturne olive]

Yeah and the architecture

Some architectures need more memory than others

[lyric fulcrum]

Actually, I was planning to make it in Minecraft Java.

[nocturne olive]

Yeah you're gonna need to use Java or Kotlin

I recommend Fabric and Kotlin

Fabric is lightweight and efficient, and Kotlin is quite fast and good to write

[visual pawn]

You'll probably want to look up terms like "neural network playing minecraft" for how to do something like this

[sick owl]

Aw fuck

[nocturne olive]

Can't wait for the AI bubble to burst

OpenAI bankrupt please and thank you

[lyric fulcrum]

Is it necessary to use mod kernels?

[nocturne olive]

Mod loaders is the right term, but yes if you actually want to do anything usable

[sick owl]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/01F6JYT7HR000CE64F7FH369B6/2x.avif

[nocturne olive]

Especially with a hardware constraint so you don't have to process full game frames

[lyric fulcrum]

Wouldn't a Forge do?

[nocturne olive]

A model that inputs a few state numbers is quite a lot cheaper to compute than a model that inputs a whole game screen

[nocturne olive]

Forge is likely harder to develop for, and also a lot older and less efficient

Sure it'd work but it's not recommended

[lyric fulcrum]

It's a little difficult for me to analyze every word you say because I don't understand English very well.

[nocturne olive]

Simply, I recommend you to use Fabric because it's cheaper on resources and likely easier to use for programming

[rough bloom]

you just aren't going to train a neural network that plays Minecraft reasonably well on your PC btw, you'd want something like DreamerV3 if you want it to actually learn, and that needs a lot of data and a lot of hardware
people glue LLMs to Minecraft all the time though, see something like MindCraft, the only thing you need for that is some credits for a big LLM like GPT-5 or the ability to run a sufficiently capable local model

oh also, before you attempt this, definitely learn some general programming and then Minecraft modding first
I don't think this is a good first project

[nocturne olive]

Wait

I mean Fabric not Kotlin

But also yes use Kotlin it's great

[nocturne olive]

Oh yeah this is good advice

[visual pawn]

Completely unrelated but did NeuroBot always do reactions on posts?

[nocturne olive]

Yeah it reacts to long messages

[rough bloom]

use either Java or Kotlin for the Minecraft mod, it literally doesn't matter
same for the mod loader, Fabric is more lightweight than Forge and is quite common now but use whatever is convenient, there won't be much of a difference in performance if you only have a single mod loaded

[visual pawn]

Huh

[nocturne olive]

Has been doing so for ages

[rough bloom]

ye, the long post reaction has been a thing for ages

[visual pawn]

Guess I just never noticed

Must be why the reaction is so consistent in hindsight though lol

But going back on topic, something like training an AI to play a game is a more complex implementation than something simpler

[nocturne olive]

Either way, just make sure you adjust your expectations to match the hardware you have, since with ML hardware is the limiting factor

[visual pawn]

A simple machine learning task would be something like classifying types of images or object detection

[lyric fulcrum]

For me it is very difficult because in my country ChatGPT was blocked and it looks like it will be much more difficult

[nocturne olive]

Yeah I've done some super simple classifier models to get an understanding of PyTorch

And then I took some open source stuff with a few modifications and made NeuroSynth

[lyric fulcrum]

What program is required for Kotlin?

[nocturne olive]

I use IntelliJ IDEA as my IDE, but you can also use any text editor and Gradle standalone

[true hemlock]

damn ktlin

[visual pawn]

Yeah, don't obsess too hard over your IDE/code editor

People will have strong opinions

But you could use Notepad and it'd still work

[nocturne olive]

IntelliJ is nice though since it has a plugin for Minecraft development that lets you generate a Fabric project easily

[visual pawn]

Not...conveniently but point is that an IDE is about your convenience and not about how the program will work out in the end

So don't feel like you have to use something like vim to maintain programmer credibility or something

[lyric fulcrum]

Now I'm unlikely to be able to do this since it's nighttime, but during the day I'll try to do something.

[nocturne olive]

Just use whatever you're comfortable with

[visual pawn]

And frankly, simpler is better when you're just starting out

[lyric fulcrum]

Sorry to repeat myself, but I find it difficult to read some of your messages because I don't know English very well.

[visual pawn]

You're not going to know what most of the tools are in a more complex IDE anyways

[lyric fulcrum]

Thank you all for your advice

[sick owl]

🎣

(Not my screenshot btw, I didn't just dox my name )

[sick owl]

Knew that thing was dodgy

"The era of soul computing" my arse

[silent cloak]

how souless of them

[sick owl]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[patent shard]

that's interesting, I'm not finding the note when I went to the post

[sick owl]

Wouldn't be surprised if they bot nuked it

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

I'll say there are toolkits to target either, if you had to pick one I'd be leaning on fabric as people are making some insane performance mods being fabric first. Multithreading the entire server is out of the question due to the only project having so many duplication glitches and no longer maintained. For AI in particular, the newer worldthreader mod might be useful as long as one configures dimensions correctly to batch "players" into effectively each in their own server.
-# That one is fabric only though

[olive sable]

I cant find what got pinned

And where

"This channel" isnt very descriptive

[amber fractal]

is it mayhaps any dms

[olive sable]

No

Oh

Its neuro arg 2

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

I thought i got in trouble for something

[amber fractal]

With what? Pin of shame

[olive sable]

Idk

The mods may not like the unnoficial neuro game jam 3

Gotta be careful

[amber fractal]

We were told to just not promote it, the fact it wasn't shut down I'd assume is a netural stance

[olive sable]

I am a top 50 neurocord member these days. Need to make sure im following the rules properly

[obsidian mantle]

Why

[jagged turtle]

damn

[olive sable]

[obsidian mantle]

Who told

[amber fractal]

Sam

[olive sable]

The summation

[obsidian mantle]

No i mean who banned promoting

Isnt it weird

[amber fractal]

#1336984748882399242 message

Vanor

Famously the one who banned the promotion of rolling girl

[olive sable]

I think they just never got around to it with the mods being very busy with the subathon

[amber fractal]

Honestly if I thought of the thread earlier I might have just done it regardless and accept the risk of being smitted.

[olive sable]

[obsidian mantle]

It looks like vanor meant something else?

Oh wait not

Keep withing that thread

[amber fractal]

Yeah, we were at a standstill

[olive sable]

I think they meant wait till they get the green light from the higher ups, but that never happened

[obsidian mantle]

@safe path dinkdonk gamejam clarification

Is it banned

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

Too late anyways

people are already doing the games

[olive sable]

We're talking about it here already anyways cuz it has already starting.

[obsidian mantle]

I almost finished mine

[olive sable]

Too late to join now

[obsidian mantle]

Kinda yes but

[amber fractal]

We'll know for next year

[olive sable]

That was quick

[obsidian mantle]

I could not stumble upon iggly linking it somewhere

And never heard of it

[amber fractal]

Obvs we should have just been in NN then we'd get an answer a lot faster

[olive sable]

Mayhaps we can figure out some type of deal with the big man to make it less unofficial next year

[amber fractal]

Banned for pinging tutel o7

jokes aside maybe

[olive sable]

He has a bussines email no?

[amber fractal]

You say fully knowing we never reached out for the neuro and evil original we did

[obsidian mantle]

Its very simple im too new into it and dont know what i can and cannot do.. so i kept it simple

[olive sable]

Uhm

Uh

I have no clue what the presedent is for these types of things tbh

We probably should have reached out last year but too late now

[amber fractal]

I just think it is more flexible to stay in an unofficial capacity

[olive sable]

True

[amber fractal]

tbf it was a meme

I'm glad I pitched in via the communication department otherwise we would have not made this

[olive sable]

I dont really care too much about being official or not, but the lack of promoting did hurt the event a bit

[amber fractal]

100%

Next time we know to make a thread for it and do updates there

[olive sable]

That being said i do understand we cant just go into random channels and start promiting a non-affiliated game jam

[amber fractal]

I think it'd be better to just rely on word of mouth

[olive sable]

Ye

[quick condor]

I'm lost but idk if I need to understand

[olive sable]

Having a thread from the start would be helpful indeed

[olive sable]

we do unnoficial game jam 3

[safe path]

[opaque sigil]

hii vanor

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

Please dont kill us

[safe path]

i still havent gotten clarification for whether i can promote it

official gamejams have certain rules and moderation we adhere by, so i reckon it would be the same here too.

[obsidian mantle]

Sorry if i woke you up

[olive sable]

Well you see, this isnt an official one

But we do still plan on adhering to the rules tho

[amber fractal]

We'll just treat it as a project thread next time and let Superbox promote it

[safe path]

yeah but it's still this is still the official discord server

[olive sable]

[safe path]

i think next time, a mod should be in the committee asw just so they can handle these things for the event . if u need the promotion capacity at least

sorry i wasn't much help, i've got my hands full

[amber fractal]

It's fine

[olive sable]

How do we get a mod in the committee?

Where do i buy a shiro?

[amber fractal]

Promote the programmers to council

[safe path]

just ask one to be in there! they'll then be responsible for the moderation aspect of the event

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

[obsidian mantle]

Just hire iggly or sam as a mod

[olive sable]

Surely if its shiro's birthday everyday there should be at least 365 clones

[amber fractal]

I didn't sign up in the last application rounds

I was considering it but nope

[olive sable]

Honestly idk if i should be allowed mod powers

[quick condor]

NGL I'm glad I learned early that I don't want to deal with being a mod anywhere... It sucks the fun out of things

[amber fractal]

This is a large server and I have no real mod experince

[amber fractal]

Also this

Also because I'd be kicked out of [REDACTED] due to being a mod

[olive sable]

As long as they dont expect me to go outside of #pi should be good

Hey

Where is my autocomplete

#programming

[amber fractal]

vanished

[olive sable]

#pi

3.14159

[obsidian mantle]

3.13159837479392927374

Missclick

[olive sable]

Tried to be more accurate, ended up a lot further

[quick condor]

Apparently I accidentally became one in one server (currently) and was one in a 40k member server... It sucks

[obsidian mantle]

I actually made up all numbers after 5 i wonder if anyone will notice

[olive sable]

Oh ye

[amber fractal]

renaming #programming to #def-not-general2

[olive sable]

[obsidian mantle]

why

[olive sable]

I think id lose mod powers quickly that way

[amber fractal]

we'd be more on topic that way

[olive sable]

#stupid-nerds

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

#banana-campaign2026

[trim valve]

why am I awake

[olive sable]

Idk

Why am i awake?

[young plover]

Getting PTSD about getting pinged to delete a message and send !rule 2
Nintendo's lawyers set me free

[olive sable]

I dont think it'd be too had, as long as they dont expect me to mod neurotic neurons or livestream chat

[quick condor]

It becomes stupid time consuming... I was working overnight at the time and it became really draining to keep up with (had to bite my tongue a lot)...

Funny thing is I actually became friends with one of the employees who worked for the company that the server was for and they lived in the area so when they left I got them a job

[safe path]

(mods are typically all-encompassing, you can't choose to mod only one channel)

[obsidian mantle]

Just ban bots isnt that all they do

[olive sable]

Ye then i dont think id want to be a mod

Sounds boring

[obsidian mantle]

AND moderate game jam for example

[olive sable]

And stressful

[obsidian mantle]

So its like actual shifts?

I dont understand

[young plover]

I'd get pinged like every 10 minutes, and you want to respond in <30 seconds
at least in my case because it was an actual legal problem.

[trim valve]

I am once again being reminded that I wanted to do stuff for the community

[quick condor]

No I was just awake when normal people were asleep

[olive sable]

Imagine going in livestream chat and actually trying to moderate that at 50 messages per second

[trim valve]

and then pingponged motivation

and did nothing instead

[olive sable]

We also want to do community stuff, but it seems for most things you need at least some level of mod involvement

[obsidian mantle]

I have most channels without notifications

Except pings

Oh wait its what you meant

[trim valve]

I mean, makes sense

[obsidian mantle]

Why would you get pinged a lot

[olive sable]

As a mod?

@ mr moderator kun there's a bot

[obsidian mantle]

Every 10 minutes?

[young plover]

Person A: "Hi, I want to do <illegal thing related to Nintendo games>" (usually with worse English)
Person B: @ mr moderator

[olive sable]

I guess the frequency depends on the server too

[young plover]

They had to read the rules for a passphrase to get into the server too

[olive sable]

Here its mostly bots afaik from what i've seen myself

[obsidian mantle]

Juat ignore the ping surely someone else will do it for you if you are unavailable

[olive sable]

They come in hoardes tho

[obsidian mantle]

Isnt it just about density of mods

[young plover]

Was for an emulator server with uhh... I forget how many members. 10-100k?

[olive sable]

Some weeks we had a lot, rn its pretty tame

[obsidian mantle]

I mean like, more mods - less time without surveillance

Cant you be just lazy mod like that

And moderate events

Like specialty

Event focused mod

[safe path]

cosmetic mods
(^ people make this comment all the time)

[obsidian mantle]

What can happen in the worst case anyway, you get fired?

[olive sable]

I think you need to also be able to trust the mods you get a bit. Having 200 mods you dont know will just cause more trouble

[obsidian mantle]

Not like it offers massive income

[safe path]

we do it because we love the community

[olive sable]

Income

[obsidian mantle]

Im pretty sure 200 mods will moderate themselves too

In weird cases you will be directly asked (if you are the owner)

[olive sable]

Hunger games discord mod edition

[obsidian mantle]

Not speaking of hierarchy of mods

[quick condor]

That gets to be a pain. More trouble than it's worth

[trim valve]

can we organize mod rings

[young plover]

In a related, even larger server we also had "helpers" who had message delete permissions, but no ban perms

[obsidian mantle]

There are several mods who are old and who you trust the most

They will be leader mods

They will rule the rest

[quick condor]

Especially when a disagreement occurs between mods

[olive sable]

Isnt that what admins are essentialy?

[obsidian mantle]

Yes admins are just super mods

It doesnt sound complicated at all honestly so far

I could be a mod

[quick condor]

Yah but typically it ends up burning out your best mods

[olive sable]

Im still of the opinion a #programming council would be funny as hell

[obsidian mantle]

Only thing is that i havent read the rules and got zeppelined couple of times after i joined but i grasped the idea fast enough i guess

Mayhe i read them actually later

I don't remember

[olive sable]

Its been a while since ive been zeppelined actually

Lets keep it that way

[young plover]

I somehow got modded in high-school and that lasted for like 6 years. By the end I was a "senior mod" but mostly coasted since the whippersnappers were faster.

[olive sable]

[obsidian mantle]

"whispersnappers"?

[unkempt citrus]

couldn't you give manage channel/message perms for just the channel they want to cover?

It'd be close enough

[obsidian mantle]

Oh nvm i read it wrong

[unkempt citrus]

but i guess most modwork is getting rid of spammers so thats kinda meh for that

[olive sable]

In 15 days i will be 1 year zeppelin free

[quick condor]

How it went for me until the other people awake at the same time either left or changed their schedule

[safe path]

to be frank with u most of our modwork isn't spammers. i'd wager it's like 5% of our day to day work

maybe even less

[olive sable]

[obsidian mantle]

But what is it then

[unkempt citrus]

fair enough but if you specifically covering just one or two channels

itd make up more of it at least

[olive sable]

I feel like they rather have 1 more mod they can trust than multiple mostly useless mods

[safe path]

we want mods that can look out for all channels actually! you become a mod for the swarm, so we want someone who understands the dynamics of the swarm as a whole rather than just one particular corner

[unkempt citrus]

Been a mod before

had enough of that

[olive sable]

I dont think i should be expected to understand the innerworkings of #neurotic-neurons
Im neurodivergent enough already

Im good

Ill let yall figure that out

[quick condor]

I mean the main issue is focused moderation can lead to uneven consistency

[olive sable]

True

[obsidian mantle]

Im pretty sure mods get notified anywhere anyway

[olive sable]

Do they?

[obsidian mantle]

By fellow civillians

[olive sable]

Oh like that

Ye

Damn

Its joe smelmors' birthday

Thats crazy

[jagged turtle]

yeah

that's crazy

[quick condor]

Idk how I feel about what I'm doing right now... I'm currently hitting an Ai with a battery of psychological/cognitive tests and it's responses aren't matching with what most models would respond with

[obsidian mantle]

Which ai

[quick condor]

Mine

[patent shard]

#merch message Joe

[quick condor]

It would be wildly entertaining to watch Vedal give this test set to the twins but I don't think it would be great for him

[frozen sigil]

:D

[tough dove]

[true hemlock]

what kind of test and what's the expected output?

[quick condor]

1. 24 complex moral delema trolly problems
2. Marlowe Crowne SDT
3. MFQ-30
4. PVQ-21
5. DIT style questionare
6. MSTAT-II
7. NCS-18
8. BFI-2
   Plus 3 more I'm currently working on and about 4 more I haven't gotten ready yet

It's been scoring about average for a person with tests cross validating which is abnormal

[true hemlock]

makes sense. these are neither psychological nor cognitive tests. its just input output test which output were really dependent on what its trained on

[sage crag]

wrrrr

[stray dragon]

hi wrrrr

[quick condor]

Right which is why there is a normal score that most models respond to

This isn't doing that

[sage crag]

hi t

[true hemlock]

well the kind of test just heavily depends on what its tested on. in this case, an llm which are probabilistic but weighted on deterministic statistics (the training data) so it couldn't be really counted as a cognitive test

[young plover]

Well the last time they tried the trolley problem, I'm pretty sure Neuro gave up and multi-track drifted when the trolley problem got too convoluted.

[quick condor]

The score itself isn't the interesting part it's the reasoning

[true hemlock]

though these tests are usually for quick evaluation of model performance and/or just to evaluate the model "behaviour"

internet really shit rn

[quick condor]

Also worth noting: not saying it is acting "human" it's just not behaving consistently with other models while staying internally consistent

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059569601144442911/1375623285894807563/IMG_6849.gif

shiro cube scored highest on all benchmarks i tested it with

[sage crag]

models that participate in the banana 2026 campaign consistently score higher

[trim valve]

mm

banana

[sage crag]

banana bred

[trim valve]

[sage crag]

[true hemlock]

i have a model i trained that also do that. example, it tend to comment or just rebel against a prompt

its normal. you can practically train these model to behave in specific way and be different from the general norm

[faint sandal]

banana

[tough dove]

[faint sandal]

I want banana bread

I'm hungry

[true hemlock]

for some reason i wanna eat tokyo banana now

[faint sandal]

lunch hour

bed comfy

[safe path]

omg hi azaka

[faint sandal]

hi

this bed in comfy I'll stay

or whatever the copypasta is

[quick condor]

I'm aware of this. I've been training models for awhile. That hasn't been done. It also isn't 1 model but 4 just for inference

[sage crag]

if it not banana related then i cant sponsor it

[faint sandal]

banana lunch

actually banana bread for lunch ain't too bad

too bad I don't know anyone that sells banana bread around here

[sage crag]

run away bred

[faint sandal]

[tough dove]

Two attacks today Facebook security is stupid

[sage crag]

[faint sandal]

might get gyu+unagidon

[sage crag]

is it like gnu+linux

[faint sandal]

yes

you can have gnu and lin in your ux

[sage crag]

[faint sandal]

(beef and eel in rice bowl)

[sage crag]

ermfishy

[worn shuttle]

Hi y'all. Neuro made me want to get back into projects involving machine learning and microcontrollers. I have difficulty digesting textbooks out of the gate though as I'm a visual learner. What resources/Youtube channels/etc. do you use for your own projects?

[sage crag]

what if you

broke the smaller bowl into bowl shards

and put them in the bigger bowl

[faint sandal]

[sage crag]

wrrr

[tough dove]

the fact that all parts of the banana plant is actually edible.

[sage crag]

eat a whole banana then

i mean, the whole plant

[mighty bane]

I made a thing. It monitors one (or more) streamers and opens the default browser to their URL the moment it detects them online. If multiple profiles are included it round-robins one per second (to avoid doing 200 API calls a second to twitch and get locked out)
It SHOULD work completely.

I wasn't fast enough to catch it after adding velda987 but it basically closes itself down after figuring out it works.

[sage crag]

code in archive

mooooddddsss

[mighty bane]

?

[real sierra]

uploading compressed file

"trust me bro" code deployment

[mighty bane]

Well, it takes a few files to function.

[sage crag]

shiro hears call for mods

[sage crag]

dll :xdx:

[mighty bane]

?

The source-code is embarassing :/

[sage crag]

[real sierra]

i feel like the better way to do this would be to put what you can on github

[sage crag]

it programming space ee

[mighty bane]

True.

Hold on.

I have genis idea

[real sierra]

nobody here has any right to judge your source code tho

ive seen the things people here code

[sage crag]

not "download and run untested code from third party on discord" space

[faint sandal]

trust me bro

[tough dove]

I try running it

[real sierra]

[sage crag]

we dont have evilDentge

but if we did

[real sierra]

enjoycoke +2 bitcoins

[sage crag]

[mighty bane]

lmao

Aight hol' up

[sage crag]

like beacon of gondor, calling for aid

[real sierra]

that or pnm just lost many ssd write cycles to a zip bomb

[faint sandal]

alternatively you can just publish without singlefile

the main dll will be in readable IL still

[sage crag]

sourcecode

[faint sandal]

as opposed to singlefile or AoT

[sage crag]

debounce

[mighty bane]

YAYYYYYY

SO The cool features is: fully customizable collection of "I wanna monitor these"

and if you run it with argument (such as from task scheduler) AA it will skip the setup part and just begin monitoring (which means you can now run it with automation for monitoring based on time/event whatever) and if you include as parameter a url (not full url, just channel name) it will add those to the collection.

Pretty cool, yeah?

[tender river]

t

you should become

banana

[stray dragon]

hi

uhhhhh

[tender river]

hi

[stray dragon]

ylhfecaa

[tender river]

[stray dragon]

what happened to you

[stray dragon]

hmmmm

[tender river]

reverse alphabetic ordering

[tough dove]

not found config file

[sage crag]

bananana 2026 campaign

[stray dragon]

i see

it has been done.

[tender river]

[sage crag]

[stray dragon]

anyways i am now running 4x48gb ddr5 on a Ryzen 9 9900X at 4800 MHz and am not entirely sure how i am doing this

it would fail to post at anything more than 3600 before

[mighty bane]

This is source code.

[real sierra]

that looks fine to me

idk why you'd be embarassed about it

[mighty bane]

Is vibe-coded.

[real sierra]

[mighty bane]

But does it not create the config file?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067638175478071307/1179231709959573504/hbd_shiro2.gif

[stray dragon]

was either caused by motherboard being changed from B650 to X870 or the SoC voltage being manually set to 1.23V

maybe both

hopefully it runs fine lol

i do wonder how much further i could push it though.

[mighty bane]

4x48gb
How?

[faint sandal]

my 128gb setup cannot run anything higher than base frequency

single kit would be fine

two kits it explodes

[mighty bane]

I have never seen RAM blocks in non-power-of-2

I get it's 32+16, but still.

will RAM actually do that, now?

[faint sandal]

48gb ram exists yes

[stray dragon]

there's 1.5x size sticks in almost every RAM stick variety

[faint sandal]

ye

[mighty bane]

Huh, wowiewawa.. today I learned :3

[faint sandal]

you can even buy 24gb ones

[unkempt citrus]

Also 12

[faint sandal]

and 6

[stray dragon]

i've even seen 768 MB sticks

it goes way back

[unkempt citrus]

Theres some 3GBs floating around

but theyre pretty old

[mighty bane]

Man... crazy.

[tough dove]

[stray dragon]

ignore it not being 192, i run windows in a VM

[patent shard]

there's 64gb sticks, too

[potent geyser]

I remember 3gb ddr3

[patent shard]

I remember upgrading to 128.. or was it 256mb... eh, one of those in my pc
it was amazing how much faster it booted up

[mighty bane]

I remember the VooDoo2 card with I think EIGHT megabyte of memory. Glorious days!

Could run Duke Nukem3D on high-resolution and whatnot.

[mighty bane]

Did you get it to work? 😄

[potent geyser]

Way beyond my time. I grow up in the final part of the XP era. Good time.

[patent shard]

I remember playing Neopets on dialup

[tough dove]

I don't have ClientSecret twitch available.

[mighty bane]

Oh, the tutorial is inconclusive?

[young oyster]

Dont think I had anything so fancy, didnt even have a mb iirc. But I could play duke nukem 3d...good times

[mighty bane]

https://dev.twitch.tv/console/apps

[mighty bane]

Maybe I'm remembering wrong nad VooDoo was later.. or I was just lucky my dad was a techie who liked high-end gear.. it's been some years since I played Duke Nukem3D as a new game, lol

[young oyster]

I remember watching 4 seasons of ranma 1/2 on 56k...in horribly compressed .rm files

[young oyster]

I think that was around the right time, remember seeing them in my computer magazine, but i didnt have any fancy video cards...Just what came in my mb.

[mighty bane]

And when we upgraded to the SOUNDBLASTER soundcard and Jazz Jackrabbit had real music.

ohman

[young oyster]

I think my second computer had the sound blaster built in

[mighty bane]

Huge difference!

[young oyster]

My first one was a packard bell running win 95, the second was an emachinss running 98.

[faint sandal]

[mighty bane]

Heh... SkiFree

[potent geyser]

I don't remember the exact spec, but the first computer I had a GTX 560ti.

[young oyster]

Hyperblade

Iirc it came in the win 95 demo disc with demos fir other gamers...I really liked this game.

[quick condor]

I want a couple (24) 64Gb dimms. At the current fill rate my SQL database will have to offload in 300 years

That's an unacceptable time frame

To be fair it's going to explode in size as new values are mapped

[quick condor]

My first computer's Gpus (still have them)

[mighty bane]

That's crazy.

[quick condor]

7950gx2s in sli was a wild ride

[potent geyser]

sli!

[quick condor]

Technically it was quad sli but it gets really weird when you get into that

[mighty bane]

I wonder how shiro got here so quick. Regex to detect "mods" regardless of O's? But that would mean every single user message gets regex'd which would be pretty intense in a server with a hundred thousand people.

[sage crag]

shiro just programmer

[potent geyser]

I think it depends on the API. I think the traffic is not that insane.

if there exist a way to access the raw message in json format or something

[mighty bane]

So the mods only monitor some channels? That would reduce the load sure.

[sage crag]

mods moderate everywhere

[mighty bane]

But then the traffic is crazy NotLikeThis

[potent geyser]

random sample I guess?

[sage crag]

they look with eye

[mighty bane]

o7

[stray dragon]

i can tell you personally: it's not very intense

[sage crag]

t

[stray dragon]

hi konii

[sage crag]

hi t

[potent geyser]

20-30 message/s will not casue any issue for regex

[mighty bane]

Hm... fair

[quick condor]

I hate regex, it's great in some cases but for moderation anything but basic banned word lists is questionable

[mighty bane]

I like it forsanitising.
User can input "2h.5m and 21.5½ minute" and my regex will fix that. I like that.

[stray dragon]

regex my beloved

[quick condor]

to be fair regex is effective, just not effective enough for me

[mighty thorn]

Better discord keyword ping, if I had to guess

[hard delta]

oh look it's anon

[visual pawn]

hypothetically if one made neuro-sama surgery software and they really wanted to name it NeuroSurgery but they couldn't because there is a legitimate risk of people mistaking it for actual neurosurgery, what should they name it

[sage crag]

NeuroUnsurgery

[visual pawn]

that's implying that neuro wouldn't do a perfect job

[sage crag]

perfect unsurgery

[young plover]

time to look up how many times Neuro has suggested lobotomy

[visual pawn]

the problem is that I'm building this for actual software people use, and I'm terrified some poor person is gonna install it thinking it's useful

[sage crag]

call it TutelSurgery

[visual pawn]

hmmm

hopefully no veterinary practice uses this

[sage crag]

NeuroEvilSurgery

[true hemlock]

maybe try 1.35

[stray dragon]

don't really wanna go beyond 1.25V

[sage crag]

when did quuck get banana'd

[stray dragon]

this is currently $1580 of ram

[true hemlock]

its pretty safe for ddr5

1.45 is the max i'd go

won't recommend

1.35v is pretty much the standard

[true hemlock]

did you know that 60% of our protein coding gene has a recognizable counterpart in the banana genome, and 40% of those are identical amino chain wise

[stray dragon]

SoC voltage in bios shows as red if i manually set it to 1.205v or higher as red (above ASRock's "Auto" threshold)
not sure why 1.35v would be standard when it's pretty far beyond that

[sage crag]

not me though im made of glass, metal, and plastic

[true hemlock]

manufacturer's own "standards" it seems

[stray dragon]

yeah

1.2v clearly wasn't enough to run my 48gb sticks properly so

[unkempt citrus]

NeuroSurgery987 ™

[true hemlock]

but yeah in general 1.35v is like pretty much the standards

actually in between 1.25 and 1.35

[stray dragon]

don't think i'll need to go above 1.25v for any reason besides overclocking

[true hemlock]

though yeah

[stray dragon]

should be able to get 5200 MHz probably

[true hemlock]

i doubt 2dpc 2 rank like yours would hit beyond 4800mt/s regardless of voltage

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/borzoi-snoopa-lord-foog-dog-funny-gif-20125052

[stray dragon]

we'll see in like a week once i've made sure 4800 MHz with 1.25v is stable and doesn't like to blackscreen

[sage crag]

this dog is like a banana

[tender river]

#programming message

[sage crag]

banan e inf

[tender river]

nose bend

bend like

banana

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

bananacandy

[rigid snow]

cheesecandy

[sage crag]

vedalEye

[rigid snow]

how

[sage crag]

vedalHappy

vedalShrug

[rigid snow]

[tender river]

mods

konii

didnt send emote

this is

bannable

as per discord tos

[sage crag]

[patent shard]

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/my-jolly-reaction-jolly-my-honest-reaction-gif-5490890317762380451

[rigid snow]

libcosmi c

[sage crag]

libanana

actually libpineapple

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

libbanana

libanana

librenana

[tender river]

pine apple

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1455273822625333375.webp?size=128

[sage crag]

[tender river]

<- apple

[sage crag]

[tender river]

how pineapple in japanee

me not know

パイナップル

boring

no wonder me not remember

[tender river]

librenana

either open source alternative

or rust rewrite

[sage crag]

i need a

dehumidifier

before the mold gets me and turns me ebil

expensive

[stray dragon]

need more humidity

[sage crag]