programming

[mossy fossil]

i forgot the soon derp

but yeah, really wild to think that 2008, the year i first used linux, was almost 18 years ago.

[olive sable]

old

[tender river]

me used freebsd before 2008

[olive sable]

even older

[tender river]

all i did was play kde games

[mossy fossil]

mood

for me it was supertux

[tender river]

me still remember the

dress up game thing

and kgoldrunner

[mossy fossil]

i was 8 at that time..

[tender river]

ktuberling

oh also katomic and kspaceduel

[mossy fossil]

my first ever distro sadly no longer is maintained

[tender river]

[mossy fossil]

to the OG... Linux Caixa Mágica

(Literally translates to "Magic Box" from Portuguese)

back in 2008 was based on Mandriva if i'm not mistaken

which also no longer exists

[rigid snow]

i am young enough my first distro was ubuntu

though that’s still like 2014?

not yesterday

[mossy fossil]

so still in the Unity Era of Ubuntu

[tender river]

first distro i installed myself was solus

[rigid snow]

yeeee unity

[tender river]

experience not that good but only reason switch back was osu performance with wine

not performance but bad framerate

feel low even if show high

vsync issue or something

only fixed it for myself in 2024 actually

[mossy fossil]

budgie was a bit jank during the early days of solus iirc

[tender river]

worst issue me had was

headphone jack stuck in middle -> de hang

think it was from repeatedly disconnecting/reconnecting?

[mossy fossil]

possible, i don't have alot of experience on solus, though i heard it was rather buggy at first with their unique DE

i mean, you gotta start somewhere though

[tender river]

me second distro (that install myself)

manjaro

then arch

then nixos

no reason to switch anymore

until make me own

[mossy fossil]

i generally stayed in the Debian Family of distros myself

after CM

Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, then Debian, Devuan... a few months experimenting with alpine and then i settled on salix recently

[olive sable]

i did the thing

i need a button to disable hdr again

screenshot too bright

[obsidian mantle]

I saw a setting in windows that "corrects hdr screenshot color fuck up"
I wonder if it works

[olive sable]

hdr toggle added

[obsidian mantle]

Is it a thing on linux

[olive sable]

idk

[rigid snow]

that probably screenshot program functionality

[obsidian mantle]

Ye its that i think

[trim valve]

in my experience it does its best

so anything that wasn't originally HDR get converted fine

certain HDR stuff gets broken

[rancid cedar]

I'm thinking about how to make the model recognize CIFAR-10

[mossy fossil]

HDR is often broken, but then again... i always felt HDR was a massive niche

[olive sable]

HDR is pretty good if you have the needed hardware to fully use it imo

entry-level hdr is pretty eh

[mossy fossil]

i kinda always saw it as "An excuse to jack up the prices"

but hey, that's just me

it's a similar feeling to RGB (on mice/keyboards). more expensive just because it has it

[olive sable]

thats partially cuz of the 10 bit panels and higher brightness i think

dolby atmos and vision is a lot worse in terms of higher pricing

[obsidian mantle]

I dont use hdr because it makes the screen too bright hurts my eyes

Is it my monitor thing or hdr cannot have proper brightness setting by its nature

[olive sable]

thats the point
you can just lower brightness tho

[obsidian mantle]

Monitor doesnt let me lower it

[olive sable]

set it in os then perhaps

[obsidian mantle]

Weird concept to me

I havent even looked if its possible

Im too accustomed to vga

[olive sable]

my monitor does let me change brightness with hdr. but then there's also sdrbrightness, 1.4 i can change

hyprland thing

[mossy fossil]

honest to god, i never understood the point of RGB. It Shines like a firefly squid and is more expensive because of that.

Okay, but what functional use does it have? you aren't really justifying that 20% "RGB Tax" to me.

[nocturne olive]

Who even cares about HDR, I doubt my stuff even supports it

At least I'm pretty sure these can't HDR

[obsidian mantle]

Superbox be like
10x 3080s
10$ monitor

[olive sable]

its all about the looks.
people buy sportscars that can do 300km/h and then drive them at 50km/h the entire time through the city purely cuz they like the aesthetics and status

and HDR just objectively looks better

[nocturne olive]

Eh that's not even close to accurate
Both of these are 165Hz monitors, one is 1080p and the other 1440p
And my GPUs are 4070Ti + 3090

[obsidian mantle]

True ml fan

[nocturne olive]

Gotta do NeuroSynth somewhere

[mossy fossil]

what's the point of a sports car if you're never gonna bring it to a race track (on a track day)

[olive sable]

liek i said, it looks cool

people do like how things look

you're thinking about this with a too functional mindset

[nocturne olive]

If my monitors do actually support HDR someone feel free to let me know
Not like it matters because I don't think Xorg supports it

[olive sable]

rgb is form over function

[mossy fossil]

for me, it's always "function over form"

[olive sable]

how are we supposed to let yo uknow? we dont know what monitors you have

[nocturne olive]

Check the models I guess

[olive sable]

congrats, you're in the minority

[obsidian mantle]

Arent leds in monitor literally rgb by nature
3 lamps
It makes rgb more natural approach

Or am i out of touch

[olive sable]

still, we dont knwo what models you have

[olive sable]

they're refering to rgb gaming lights, not monitor tech

[obsidian mantle]

Aaah

[olive sable]

actually why not check yourself?

its your monitors

[mossy fossil]

then again, i love games like gran turismo because you can bring a road car, tune it up and beat racing cars. There's nothing more satisying to me than beating le mans prototypes with a tuned RX-7 that looks like a box standard RX-7 on the surface

[olive sable]

okay

[obsidian mantle]

I made my pc shine red

[olive sable]

i odnt have rgb drivers on nixos yet

[mossy fossil]

but yeah, I guess i'm more of a sleeper kind of guy huh

[olive sable]

half the waybar buttons dont work yet

[obsidian mantle]

Red = fast

[rigid snow]

i have all of my rgb on the default rainbow animation

never changed it

[olive sable]

blue = fasterer

[obsidian mantle]

Eww

Blue = cooler

[mossy fossil]

purple = i just like purple

sip

[olive sable]

no, you dont liek rgb

you get lights off

[rigid snow]

i changed the same animation on my keyboard to pastel colors tho

[obsidian mantle]

Purple

[mossy fossil]

who said anything about RGB lights

[olive sable]

we're talking about rgb lights no?

[rigid snow]

what does this imply then if not rgb

[mossy fossil]

paint

[tender river]

blood

[olive sable]

bruh

dont paint your pc please

[rigid snow]

why not

[obsidian mantle]

im not that into computers

[olive sable]

pc case comes pre-painted, paint will peel

you need to remove the factory coating

dont paint pc

[rigid snow]

it’ll be fine if you’re not stupid

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

just use primer

[olive sable]

hmmm

might be fine

but ye we we're talking about rgb before

red rgb, blue rgb

[rigid snow]

white rgb

[mossy fossil]

actually the only RGB i would genuinely tolerate

[tender river]

but also help in understanding the structure and properties of these ordered collections
literally how

[rigid snow]

you have not seen how white looks

[mossy fossil]

backlit keyboards are neat at night

[sage crag]

ai generated

[olive sable]

is that not pretty standart these days? backlit keyboards?

[tender river]

[olive sable]

i swear all the 5 dollar walmart keyboards are all backlit these days

[sage crag]

rgb

[nocturne olive]

Literally #programming message

[sage crag]

death of the individual

[rigid snow]

no white led > need 255,255,255 rgb > different components source different quality led + they all differ in brightness anyway because manufacturing tolerances

[olive sable]

ah i see

[olive sable]

top one is hdr

[tender river]

[rigid snow]

means you will get slightly purple on your aio, slightly green on your gpu, beige on your fans, ai generated image piss yellow on your motherboard etc.

[olive sable]

oh i might have been directed to the worng website. the CQ is hdr, not the Q

[rigid snow]

everything is rgb in my pc just because it was easier to source at the time. the best quality leds are the ram

[olive sable]

i have no clue which leds are the best in mine

[rigid snow]

you find that out by setting colors and looking

[olive sable]

my ram, mobo, gpu, gpu bracket, keyboard and mouse all have rgb.

[olive sable]

im too colourblind to see the subtle differences

[rigid snow]

what i described isn’t subtle btw

if you set to white it’s pretty apparent shits not white

[nocturne olive]

So no HDR for me even if I wasn't already on a non-HDR rendering system

[olive sable]

ye

[nocturne olive]

My PC has been crashing loads during the subathon so since I'm suspicious of the Nvidia driver I'm now on the Nvidia-open driver

What's everyone's here experience with the Nvidia-open driver?

[true hemlock]

which is why i tend to consider case as entirely optional

seen so many people starts off with cases when picking parts for a build

and its often the expensive $300+ ones

paired with mid-low end shit

[mossy fossil]

honestly just get an off-lease office PC and upgrade it

that's what i did lmao

[true hemlock]

i get parts from random independently ran stores

they often have random parts from broken pc

managed to build a really good pc for $69 that way

[mossy fossil]

literally my current desktop PC is a Lenovo Thinkcentre M710s that used to be from an office some place in Poland

[true hemlock]

3700x, 2x8gb ddr4, gtx 1660 super

[opaque sigil]

It's a driver that does driver things (it's also the only option for my gpu)

[true hemlock]

650W psu, a good one with proper OCP protection on all rails

and DC-DC topology

[nocturne olive]

Hem?

How is it the only option?

Are you sure you're not confusing with Noveau?

[olive sable]

memory leak

sh: line 1: kill: (544386) - No such process
sh: line 1: kill: (544383) - No such process
sh: line 1: kill: (544380) - No such process
sh: line 1: kill: (544430) - No such process
sh: line 1: kill: (544429) - No such process
sh: line 1: kill: (544427) - No such process
sh: line 1: kill: (544438) - No such process
sh: line 1: kill: (544432) - No such process
sh: line 1: kill: (544437) - No such process
sh: line 1: kill: (544480) - No such process
sh: line 1: kill: (544479) - No such process
sh: line 1: kill: (544475) - No such process
...

[true hemlock]

love memory leaks

[opaque sigil]

Nope, Blackwell is open only last time I checked

Not that it matters, you should use it if you can

[true hemlock]

o7

blackwell kinda ass

[mossy fossil]

pascal is in a very weird situation on Linux now

nouveau doesn't have the required stuff to make it actually work

[true hemlock]

pascal is a weird one

[mossy fossil]

and it's no longer getting any meaningful updates

[true hemlock]

the scheduler is pretty weird

[mossy fossil]

so once the proprietary drivers stop working... well mate, you're kinda fucked.

[nocturne olive]

Well praying it fixes the crashes I've been getting almost daily during subathon

If it does in fact fix it I can probably put my RAM OC back where it was

[mossy fossil]

idk why nvidia didn't just give the necessary blobs to get pascal going when they did so for the 2XXX Series

[true hemlock]

planned obsolescence

duh

[mossy fossil]

by that logic, you'd give NO blobs whatsoever

[nocturne olive]

They seem to just want everyone to have RT and tensor cores now

I don't know maybe it's easier to dev the driver that way or something

[true hemlock]

the day when GPUs only have tensor and rt is the day i no longer consider them as "Graphics processing unit"

[mossy fossil]

it's an AI Processing Unit instead

[opaque sigil]

We're basically already there

[nocturne olive]

Well we still have regular "cores"

[true hemlock]

B300 is the worst enterprise card to date

they already threw general fp64 outta the window

its a DOA card now

we HPC fans stuck with B200 at best

[nocturne olive]

Investors want "magical AI compute" probably

Which is just dumb

[true hemlock]

fp4 barely (doesn't even) work lol

[mossy fossil]

the worst fate any company can face is becoming publicly traded

[true hemlock]

its just to inflate tops number

[nocturne olive]

Yeah it's less useful and more "we have this big number invest now"

[true hemlock]

fp8 is worse than int8 because you can still at least do scaled blocks with int9

but they also removed that from B300

[mossy fossil]

imagine being the boss of a company but you still have someone to answer to

[opaque sigil]

A100 going strong

[true hemlock]

love A100

have 2 of them

[nocturne olive]

I wonder if A100 prices will ever fall to affordable levels

[true hemlock]

probably not

[nocturne olive]

Sad

[true hemlock]

but if you wanted fp64

[opaque sigil]

They're too useful

[true hemlock]

V100 exist

[opaque sigil]

So no

[true hemlock]

for cheap

[nocturne olive]

I'd be more in it for the VRAM

[true hemlock]

V100 16GB hbm2 goes for $300 rn

32gb goes for about triple

[nocturne olive]

Wuh

[true hemlock]

you can always do what elvy do

unlock P0 state from driver

and overclock till it hit 3080 performance

for $300 that's hella nice

3080 16GB with hbm memory

volta is so overclockable for some reason

[nocturne olive]

I guess my 3090 is kinda somewhat better in some ways
At least it has more VRAM

[true hemlock]

arguably better than ampere

volta chips are usually big

so you don't have to worry about thermal density

but you'll have to worry more about thermal capacity

just slap a huge ass heatsink + active fans

[nocturne olive]

I really do wonder what will actually end up superseding my 3090, because as of yet there don't seem to be very many good options with more VRAM

[old grail]

hey does anyone know how to solve this issue (its in a extension called tampermonkey for chrome)

[true hemlock]

the V100 32GB that im ordering for $300

[nocturne olive]

Also as soon as I want to update my driver no more Volta support

[old grail]

tried checking the extension settings, extension OVERALL settings, and also browser settings

[nocturne olive]

590 will drop Volta apparently too

[true hemlock]

driver update isn't too important

[nocturne olive]

Well unless it fixes crashing

[old grail]

uh...

please 😭

you guys here are the smartest i know that know stuff about programming and stuff for stuff like this

[true hemlock]

im not the web nerd

[nocturne olive]

Also that's just a you-price

[old grail]

fair

[nocturne olive]

32GB for 300€ with similar performance to my current hardware would be crazy if it was attainable to normal people like me

[rancid cedar]

Why not use Intel Arc B580 (

[olive sable]

cuda im assuming

got my waybar mostly working again

need to finetune the sapcing and everything again tho

CPU power is N/A

[opaque sigil]

might need zenpower

[olive sable]

ye

im trying ot figure out how to get it

[opaque sigil]

  boot.extraModulePackages = [ config.boot.kernelPackages.zenpower ];

  boot.kernelModules = [
    "zenpower"
  ];

[olive sable]

doens't seem to be enough.
it can find zenpower with lsmod but its not making its way to the waybar

might need to reboot again actually

[sage crag]

you do NOT need to do that

please use nixos-hardware

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-hardware

add this flake, find your hardware, add all the relevant bits

[olive sable]

uh

[sage crag]

its hardware stuff

for compatibility

just find your stuff and put it in there

[olive sable]

isnt this also just using zenpower?

[sage crag]

yes, but you dont have to do it manually and you get fixes for free

[olive sable]

fixes for what?

[sage crag]

hardware specific bugs, obviously, and you dont have to update or remove them yourself if they become redundant or need changing

and you dont need to have it in your nix config so you get a less hardware specific config

[olive sable]

[tender river]

ye its a library

not have to maintain code yourself = big win

[sage crag]

ye not know why i didnt just say that

library = good

[olive sable]

what is this thing?

[sage crag]

flake

[olive sable]

where and how do i get flake?

[tender river]

https://nixos.asia/en/configuration-as-flake

[olive sable]

i did that i think

[sage crag]

go to spice aisle in store

[olive sable]

maybe

[sage crag]

sell chilli flake there

[rigid snow]

please don't make it 150px tall again thx?

[olive sable]

oh

[olive sable]

it was only 59px tall before

[rigid snow]

aggeration

[sage crag]

yeah dont make it 200px tall again next time

[olive sable]

only 59px

[sage crag]

that's what i said

480px

[rigid snow]

59 sounds fine for like uuh

[olive sable]

2160px

[rigid snow]

a navbar on a webpage

[sage crag]

really you should use screen height%

instead of px

[rigid snow]

fuck no

[sage crag]

ye

[rigid snow]

konii

[sage crag]

should

[rigid snow]

i kill

don;t

[sage crag]

i dont even have a bar

[tender river]

[rigid snow]

this is the worst thing you ever saifd

[tender river]

aspect ratio

[rigid snow]

explode

[sage crag]

konii unbothered

scaling not me problem

[tender river]

konii fer

[sage crag]

look close enough

[olive sable]

if its height% it looks better on monitors with different resolutions since it will be same tallness. but it wont be aligned to the pixels

[sage crag]

pixel alignment for useless

[rigid snow]

it will NOT be the same tallness

[rigid snow]

that what dpi scaling for

[olive sable]

it will tho

[sage crag]

"tallness"

[rigid snow]

no

[olive sable]

thats how height works

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

you two can argue amongst yourselves

[olive sable]

no thanks

i need to figure out how to flake

[sage crag]

so basically

[rigid snow]

"aspect ratio" never heard of her

[sage crag]

put yourself in a desiccator

then

put in mortar and pestle

and grind

into flake

[olive sable]

ow

desiccator hurts

[sage crag]

not for long

actually for long i lied

but you will forget

because you will be flake

[tender river]

that page should also explain basics of flakes as long as you dont just read the commands

[sage crag]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=fw2SlS_RGKU

[olive sable]

rat filled? bugs?

[tender river]

oh me listen more mili since then also like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCm--tb5SKg

[sage crag]

i know that one

from osu

[sage crag]

wrr

[opaque sigil]

[tender river]

[sage crag]

why no one ping me

me NOT scary

[sage crag]

apparently it have sequel

[tender river]

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

I have reply pings turned off by default

[olive sable]

i always turn ping off

manually

for everyone

each time

[tender river]

i need to build list of jane remover tracks i like

me picky but jane remover too good to pass up

[sage crag]

oi

[olive sable]

poi

jan

poi

jan

[sage crag]

ppoi

[tender river]

me ping if want to tell something

[sage crag]

me ping if

reply

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

there are more

search for your other hardware, you may spot something

[rigid snow]

realistic two monitor simulation

[olive sable]

oh my days

monitor is 16:9

if its not 16:9 i dont want it

unfortunate misspelling 💀

[sage crag]

aspect ratio other than 16:9

not exist in my world

[tender river]

ereader

phone

[olive sable]

16:9 is only one i need, phone's 21:9 uses the extra for bottom buttons and battery bar

ereaders is for nerds

[rigid snow]

tallness

[olive sable]

esl moment

[rigid snow]

i like that word

height too difficult to spell

heithggfgthffgh

[tender river]

width
height

[olive sable]

tallness
noun [ U ]
uk
/ˈtɔːl.nəs/ us
/ˈtɑːl.nəs/
Add to word list
the quality of being of more than average height:
Extreme tallness runs in the family. His brother is 6 ft 10.
the tallness of the building

[tender river]

[olive sable]

im tallness

[sage crag]

they not exist yet

they exist only after i made my os

[rigid snow]

koni ereader os

[sage crag]

ye

dementia

wrr

[olive sable]

i think i had heigth as a variable name in some project cuz height too hard to spell

[rigid snow]

why ereader and similar have eink when we have

[olive sable]

tablet go brrr

[rigid snow]

lcd but no backlight

[sage crag]

easier to do
let size: Vec2<f32>;, and use size.y size.x or something

[rigid snow]

if you read in dark area skill issue

even eink have backlight

nowaday

[olive sable]

my tablet is 2944x1840, which is 16:10
im pretty usre the taskbar fixes it back to 16:9 tho

[sage crag]

e-ink lower power than lcd even though

when lcd display lose power, lose image

whereas e-ink only need power to update image

[olive sable]

hmmm

[sage crag]

so e-ink dont need to power display until display changes

[olive sable]

what if tablet but replace lcd with eink

[sage crag]

terrible idea

[rigid snow]

that not really necessary for ereader though

[sage crag]

it is

[rigid snow]

how

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

like i said, e-ink dont need to be powered until the screen refreshes

which means you only spend power when turning the page

whereas with lcd, there's a constant power draw

[rigid snow]

ok are you reading one page for 5 minutes

8pt font

or what

[sage crag]

q: power display 24x a second or power display 1x every 20 seconds

[rigid snow]

it's

what

power display 24x a second

[sage crag]

ye ye approx

lcd require constant power, e-ink dont, that why e-ink used

[rigid snow]

what does powering for N times mean

[sage crag]

lcd display turn off (no image) if not powered, so if you wanted to save power (and have some flickering) you could power it at intervals rather than continuously

still worse than e-ink

e-ink doesnt need power to display image, only to change image

[rigid snow]

you can just

[sage crag]

constant power draw or power draw only when change image, pick one

[rigid snow]

lower voltage

pwm not necessary

[sage crag]

still bad

[rigid snow]

look i like pebble watches displays

put in everything

[sage crag]

e-ink is great

[rigid snow]

eink fucking sucks

0.1hz ahh

[sage crag]

either way, when people design for e-ink, they are actually designing for low-refresh (sometimes monochrome) displays

[tender river]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gRR8JePfwk

[sage crag]

NOT problem for the actual use of e-ink

if you try watch video on e-ink it your own fault

[tender river]

only problem if you use non e ink app on eink display

[rigid snow]

not all actual use good use

[olive sable]

the whole point of eink is it uses less power then a patato produces i think

[sage crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk2v3ruadSk
why was this invented

ghosting not severe

[tender river]

me ereader have kernel bug cause random display flips in rare case

[olive sable]

70W

[tender river]

have to flip entire display there and back to fix

[sage crag]

[tender river]

use night mode usually

[tender river]

by flip me mean color flip

[sage crag]

funny dark mode actually have higher power draw on e-ink

[olive sable]

cant they flip it?

[sage crag]

yes, but it probably wouldnt look great

based on how e-ink works

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

either way, you dont complain about paper being "light mode"

[olive sable]

watch me

i dont actually have one to complain about since i jsut use a normal tablet for my bi-monthly manga

[rigid snow]

need govt to switch all legal document to dark mode

black paper white ink

[sage crag]

double cost of paper

govt can be even more useless for free

[rigid snow]

yeeeee

[sage crag]

govt should replace all paper with e-ink display

[rigid snow]

black paper factory owned by close relative of lawmaker

[olive sable]

they already did
and thats as far as i can take that joke. i ownt explain

[sage crag]

i wonder if that name is filtered

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

probably right

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

"that" name???

[sage crag]

i dont want to try it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czkfKyXbKvg
@tender river

[rigid snow]

i'm very confused

[sage crag]

did the nixos-hardware work?

[rigid snow]

surely i misunderstood the joke

surely...

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/ado-ado-cute-silly-ado-silly-little-ado-cute-ado-gif-14449236298685218953

[olive sable]

yes

[olive sable]

check dm

[rigid snow]

i did misunderstand the joke

thankfully

[sage crag]

i like calico cat wrr

[tender river]

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

ミケ

[tender river]

me like name make sense

[sick owl]

Is this the trmnl?

They're only a hundred quid here which is pretty good value

[sage crag]

i didnt realise it was the same as 三毛 i was just referencing something

[olive sable]

i have no clue what it means

[sage crag]

that's okay

[tender river]

reference lost on me

[sage crag]

that's okay

[tender river]

[sage crag]

nub seems taller than enub

[olive sable]

[tender river]

nub.png

[sage crag]

@native surge

[tender river]

enub.png

[sage crag]

i just realised ive only eaten christmas sweets all day

[olive sable]

oh

[sage crag]

actually that's not true i've also eaten the inside of my mouth

[olive sable]

i havent eaten todaty

[sage crag]

i didnt notice but i do it more when im hungry or dehydrated

maybe im a cannibal

[tender river]

rr nesus slow

[olive sable]

i cant judge cuz i do the same

[sage crag]

nub is not taller

but

the emoji seems taller

[olive sable]

true

[tender river]

contrast

me not think that way

[sage crag]

me not know

maybe something to do with my vision

[tender river]

konii vision

make enub smaller

[native surge]

https://tenor.com/view/roomba-cat-gif-19926065

[olive sable]

nub looks taller

[sage crag]

the sun is too bright for me to look at the sky during a clear day

[tender river]

nub = sun

too bright cant accurately judge size

[olive sable]

bright sun burns my retinas

[sage crag]

can see in near complete darkness but me vision under normal condition very bad

family think me vampire NOT vampire just light sensitive

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=MX5DhzuwLfc

[rigid snow]

Instrument Serif

[olive sable]

i have like 18/20 vision, but im also colourblind

[sage crag]

font other than monospace banned

[olive sable]

so i should just get robot eyes

[sage crag]

i wonder if you'd even be able to understand the range of colours properly after getting those eyes

since your brain is not 10 minutes old anymore

[rigid snow]

Monotype Corsiva

[olive sable]

i think so?
my colourblindness is supposedly the filters being bad so red light also activates green

[sage crag]

me have no reason to add any non-monospace fonts to me os

monospace makes text justification easy too

[olive sable]

when ableos robot eyes with ar and vr display?

my budget is 4000

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

you dont want that code running on your brain

[olive sable]

ive had worse

[sage crag]

clearly

[olive sable]

[tender river]

good thing every character in monospace take up same space

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

i love monospace

[olive sable]

A

[tender river]

there also 0 width

[olive sable]

i should eat something before my lips are gone

[sage crag]

i'll just

not use unicode

[tender river]

ascii

[sage crag]

no

[tender river]

shift-jis

[sage crag]

me make better

(i will use unicode, im not that stupid)

otherwise pretty much all text that already exists cant be used

[tender river]

japanese encoding very simple

me have this flowchart

[sage crag]

no

oops too slow

leaf graph

[sage crag]

simple solution

[tender river]

too late

[sage crag]

i will make my own character set

and language

[tender river]

[sage crag]

and then i have to invent a new encoding for it

[tender river]

can you create new laws of physics please

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/my-jolly-reaction-jolly-my-honest-reaction-gif-5490890317762380451

[sage crag]

hav tried it not work

[tender river]

[sage crag]

unfortunately me brain is confined by existing law of physic

need to transcend and become a purely thought based being first

[rigid snow]

real question why is this shit everywhere now suddenly

[sage crag]

wow that font is awful

much better

[rigid snow]

[rigid snow]

it's really not tho

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

sorry i cant read anything thats not monospaced anymore

it all hurts

[olive sable]

it is

[sage crag]

except for garamond that's the font on my kindle

[rigid snow]

out of context

good for headings

[olive sable]

whats a heading

[rigid snow]

title

[olive sable]

oh

no

[sage crag]

opposite of a beheading

[tender river]

you use ereader? remember complaining refresh rate

[olive sable]

damn they attach the head? thats crazy

[sage crag]

i have a completely stock kindle with oem firmware and software

[olive sable]

this is good, but now you jsut need to make it readable

[sage crag]

z

i realised i was hungry but forgot

[tender river]

eepy eepy

eepy eepy eepy

good niht

[sage crag]

pokemon

[rigid snow]

condensed font hater

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-sleepy-gif-9558558281283765110

[rigid snow]

or serif hater

[silent cloak]

task is too difficult

[olive sable]

i brought a bag of chips

[rigid snow]

well known great source of nutrition

[olive sable]

condensed is too condensed for my smooth brain

need space to breath the readthe

[olive sable]

horrible

-5/10

[sage crag]

overflow to 5/10

[silent cloak]

the world isnt ready for that quality yet

[olive sable]

i use 32 bit numbers

[sage crag]

its mod 10

so i dont care

[olive sable]

nuh-uh

[sage crag]

neuroHyperYay

[olive sable]

i dont mod 10

4,294,967,290 / 10

[sage crag]

i did not ask

[rigid snow]

-5 mod 10 = 5

[olive sable]

mod 10 is boring

[sage crag]

yes

that is

how modulus work

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

that does check out

[silent cloak]

i only ever use mod for looping/wrapping tbh

besides other rare cases

[olive sable]

i use mod when i need to modulo

[rigid snow]

ok i confidently wrong

[sage crag]

i use mod when i need to modulo unless i need to modulo by a power of 2 in which case i binary AND with (that power - 1)

[rigid snow]

embarrassing

throw tomato at me

[sage crag]

took three tries

its okay

[olive sable]

what took 3 tries?

[rigid snow]

cook three fries

[silent cloak]

im thinking of tensioning my 3D printer myself

[olive sable]

we're going after fries in 2 hours

[silent cloak]

idk what im doing

[olive sable]

im excited

[silent cloak]

so im hoping i wont snap the belt

[olive sable]

if you're strong enough to snap the belt, that must be one weak ass belt, or you have big ass muscles

[sage crag]

remembering the correct thing

[silent cloak]

the belt is 3D printed

so idk

[olive sable]

what

[silent cloak]

yeah

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

wav compression

[sage crag]

wav compression

[rigid snow]

why so many lossless image codec

but only two audio

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey's_Audio

[sage crag]

because people are okay with perceptually indistinguishable audio moreso than video

in my opinion

though, then again, lossless video isnt that common

lossless images are, but not video

so maybe its just because its so large to store it

[rigid snow]

ye because lossless video is

[sage crag]

big

lots of image

[rigid snow]

absolutely unfathomably so

[sage crag]

i fathom it

it

1 30s video per

256gb ssd

[rigid snow]

ye something like that

[sage crag]

depends on resolution

[rigid snow]

that seems about right for like 4k

[sage crag]

video large

[sage crag]

me video 4k@0.00000001

just 1 frame smogfrog

[rigid snow]

typically, about twice as much as a 320 kbit/s bitrate MP3 file
damn that's goood

[warm river]

i got bored so i decide to turn my raspberry pi into tv box since my tcl tv is chinese spyware and i installed kodi and twitch addon on kodi so now i can watch neuro on tv ;3

[sage crag]

analogue audio format sampled at planck time

[rigid snow]

~inf sampling rate

[sage crag]

❌

[rigid snow]

"audio"

[sage crag]

planck time is 10⁻⁴³s

approx

reciprocal is

big

[rigid snow]

"audio"

[sage crag]

but not inf

[sage crag]

even then, its still not perceptually accurate to human hearing

because human hearing actually less accurate

mm continuous and weird vibe based

[rigid snow]

human

[sage crag]

who design this

garbage

[rigid snow]

because human hearing actually less accurate

[sage crag]

hey why can some of the thingies in my ear get confused and decide that im always hearing a high pitched noise

[rigid snow]

even if hear up to 1MHz

still

too much sample

[sage crag]

real lossless audio

is

take scan of the entire universe

down to each atoms position

and store it on disc (repeat every plank time)

[rigid snow]

the best lossless compression codec is closed source and windows only, the second best is closed source

[sage crag]

its not lossless video since we didnt store photons

[rigid snow]

plank time

[sage crag]

tpyo

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

wrrr

[sage crag]

spruce_plank

[rigid snow]

at least the second one has a .so downloadable and license is permissive only prohibit modification

[sage crag]

permissive prohibit modificationtnnn

[rigid snow]

and no source

everything else allow

wait since when is alac open source

too bad the compression ratio sucks compared to literally everything else

they all around 50% though difference by 3% at most

audio like water uncompressable

[quick condor]

I need to get a dac that has 4.4mm balanced out

[rigid snow]

just any audio interface

external

[quick condor]

No

[rigid snow]

what do you mean no

[rigid snow]

they all do

oh you need stereo

one jack

[quick condor]

Yes it's a little larger than 3.5mm

[rigid snow]

brother i know

it's just unusual

[quick condor]

It's for my ier-m7s

[rigid snow]

they're usually split

because speakers

[quick condor]

In ear monitors

[rigid snow]

ye

[rancid cedar]

I'm thinking about putting my model into a simulated world to let it grow on its own

Like Alice

[silent cloak]

i had a headset with a fiber optic signal before

[rigid snow]

oh my brain autocorrected to 6.35 but anyway, i found some by searching exactly that

also 2x 6.35 trs -> 4.4 exist

converter cables

[quick condor]

Yah but I'd rather something compact. I don't need length past some point since I have a 1m cable to the headphones and would rather avoid adapters. I could do individual 6.35 to mmcx cables but that seems stupid

[scenic depot]

How to know if a developer is self taught:

-# too much elseifs

[scenic depot]

[quick condor]

I was going to come up with some stupid method of building an array with each segment being a block of elseif statements but my brain violently rejected it

[silent cloak]

if only he could somehow switch to the one he needed or mod it in

but it would take a bit to be that wise

[quick condor]

I mean a part of me does like doing bad code that I dont have to deal with later because someone at work found out I can write code but even I wouldnt do the else if blocks like that (and Ive written stuff in ruby to piss people off)

[silent cloak]

fast prototypes are fine

but to this degree is something else

[sage crag]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=voAu0YRWUNE
@native surge osu

[trim valve]

I love hyping up a project in my head and then instantly losing interest when I try to implement it

[sage crag]

this will be the best "helo world" ive ever written

[trim valve]

maybe I just go back to minimal pxls clone

[sage crag]

<- none e with left nub

[sage crag]

please call it

anything with vowels

[trim valve]

[sage crag]

please dont name it:
bcdfghjklmnpqrstvwx(~y)z

[trim valve]

what about slxp

[warped narwhal]

Sorry, we don't have the budget for more than one vowel for this project, but you can have 10 consonants instead

[sage crag]

one vowel cost more than 10 consonants

[sage crag]

i cant tell if its slap or slop

maybe slip

[trim valve]

pxls backwards but I spelt it wrong the first time

[sage crag]

pepperonin

[sage crag]

txls

[trim valve]

lack of vowel glueless

[red lynx]

Anyone know how to not get scammed when looking to self replace a laptop screen?

[sage crag]

no sorry

[vocal sapphire]

Order from amazon and watch a youtube on how-to-replace your laptop broken screen

[red lynx]

I was looking on eBay and they have some far better prices, some even have refunds, is that a safe technique?

I’m just scared I’m gonna mess something up trying to repair it myself haha

[vocal sapphire]

Yeah, I haven't tried ebay but refunds are good too

[sage crag]

second-hand sales on ebay are similar to amazon, but buying new on amazon would probably be best if you care about condition

[vocal sapphire]

You could just find a local repair shop too

[sage crag]

second-hand on either site should be fine as long as you can get a refund though

be careful about it

[red lynx]

Mmm okay okay that’s sensible

I will probably try taking it into a local repair shop then and see if they can get a better price on it than eBay

Here’s the screen btw lol

Thanks for the help y’all ❤️

[sage crag]

[trim valve]

as long as you make sure you keep everything on ebay it should be fine

i.e. don't let people try and make you may with a weird third party or anything

[sage crag]

do not accept a date and then go on a 15 year fling and get married and then get the monitor via a divorce paper

ebay will not refund it

[vocal sapphire]

yeah that problems probably needs local repair shop, trying to diy is hard.

[red lynx]

Ah good to know, I was planning originally on seducing the local repair shop and divorcing for all their monitors, but now I won’t

Yeah I’ll take it the shop, better than trying to repair and accidentally make the problem worse myself lol

[sage crag]

its best not to

[trim valve]

ok

pxls idea has instantly hit roadblock

I am incredible programme

who needs to write code when you can just think instead

[sage crag]

you are inedible programme ye

sorry i meant

incredible

[trim valve]

[sage crag]

i dont eat people

that would be weird

so i dont

[trim valve]

[trim valve]

why are ratelimits

like

[sage crag]

ratelimit = limit of rate, to prevent ratings from increasing too rapidly

[trim valve]

I can:

• make something that just works™ with tokio
• actually think about the problem properly

[sage crag]

why use tokio ew tokio bad tokio

smol has

[trim valve]

so true

[sage crag]

-20kb

from tokio

when you compile with

all optimisations

from 400kb to 380kb

[trim valve]

okk but

binary size irrelevant

[sage crag]

MyHonestReaction

wrong

binary size only thing you optimise for

everything else afterthought

[trim valve]

[sage crag]

optimisation #1

dont use rust

optimisation #2

done

[trim valve]

do in

hblang

[sage crag]

best language for binary size

actually c

[trim valve]

[sage crag]

well

compiler rng

gcc llvm make big binaries even with jealous optimisation

besst language for binary size

hand-optimised asm

[trim valve]

wrr

[sage crag]

wrrr

[trim valve]

ratelimit hurt head

have to use actual time

feels wrong to mix with tokio

[trim valve]

no like

head hurty

[sage crag]

it

late

go sleep

[olive sable]

Eepy

Goodnight

https://tenor.com/view/non-biyori-biyori-repeat-non-biyori-boyori-repeat-anime-bedrool-anime-bedroll-bed-burrito-gif-8064097188213711624

[sick owl]

another builder

Correct, 150 quid DIY robot arm

6 cheap chinese servos, a waveshare control board, webcam and a 3d printed body

[visual pawn]

And with a leader arm for teleoperation and training data

[sick owl]

I'm just building a follower arm and using an old switch joycon for training data collection

[quick condor]

Found my issue, pycord doesn't send keep alive packets

[amber fractal]

:classic:

yeah, then you have 90 seconds per command

[quick condor]

Havent melted whisper yet with 7 in discord

[astral zinc]

Please recommend an AI model suitable for the rtx 4060(+ i9 14900k)

[quick condor]

I'd say a mistral 3 family 14 or 24b but I'm heavily biased towards mistral

I misread 4090... Ministral 14b then

[tender river]

ye difference between haskell divMod and quotRem

this is why

haskell has no division opeartor

unless you make it

me lie it has builtin division its just floating point division

[sick owl]

I highly recommend GPT OSS 20B with offloaded tensors if you're looking for practical applications, use the F16 Unsloth gguf

[quick condor]

NGL turtle boy is pretty damn smart... Synthetic data isn't great for both ethical reasons as well as the risk of model collapse it comes with, but organic data is a pain unless you have a source.

I was able to get a pretty solid chunk of conversational data just from 5 friends in a discord call, even after stripping all the twitch slop out he has a mountain of organic data

Ewww gpt?

[sick owl]

If its just for fun then Ministral 14B is a good shout like Hascrack said

[sick owl]

GPT OSS 20B is still unmatched in its size class

Nemotron nano trades blows but its also 10B larger and not natively 4 bit

[quick condor]

Except it's safeguarded to hell

[sick owl]

That's why I said its the best for practical applications

You'll realistically never run up against those safeguards in normal use

I haven't

If you just want a fun model then I agree with ministral since its far less sloppa

[quick condor]

Anything chemistry related good luck gpt flags everything as dangerous.

In the weight class sure but thats because you'd be looking at Llama2

[astral zinc]

rtx 4060 has just 8gb vram...

[quick condor]

Ministral 8b

But that's pretty small. I only do DB processing with it

[sick owl]

That's why I recommend GPT OSS 20B, since its a MoE model you can offload unused layers to the CPU without suffering too heavy of a hit to speed

[idle dune]

I’m switching Distros to Mint.

Ubuntu was making me angry

[astral zinc]

Oh, I didn't know about this. Thank you.

[quick condor]

NGL I can't say I've looked much into small models other than for very specific tasks... The lowest end card I have is an A2 with 16Gb vram

[astral zinc]

But my cpu will hit 100°C....

[sick owl]

Yep, its pretty cool. Just use the --n-cpu-moe 16 launch argument as a starting point on llama.cpp then keep increasing the number until it fits your GPU with a decent context window (it'll run at a decent speed and launch without crashing)

Your cpu won't suffer any significant load since the offloaded layers are inactive

[quick condor]

Also I went straight from ollama to Exllamav3 and run exl3 quants

[astral zinc]

I have to fully turn the fan to barely maintain 40 degrees...

[sick owl]

40 degrees is an extremely low temp for a modern cpu