programming

[hearty notch]

similar failure modes?

[stiff trout]

Neuro responds much better now when Vedal don't fuck with me is that releveant to this?

[hearty notch]

but they were ok because they were funny and not randomly unwanted

[hearty notch]

idk what this means tbh im gonna go now

[quick condor]

This is where it gets a little complicated. On one hand the ability of the twins to ignore or defy him is intentional but in a moment like that one it makes it hard to debug.

[uneven pulsar]

awa

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071784467036913664/1412370548188512440/awa.gif

[quick condor]

CTRL+C CTRL+V from me

[sage crag]

awa

[hard raptor]

it's Rust time!

[sage crag]

[rancid cedar]

I think this is a sign of overfitting

[silent cloak]

He probably messed up some fine tuning

[opaque sigil]

Me when rust

[amber fractal]

merry christmas Have good day

[rancid cedar]

Maybe
This is a pain point for all Transformer models

[quick flame]

merry xmas everyone

[quick condor]

No, his original reaction seemed to imply this was a concern but it wasn't that

I'm probably forgetting something but it sounded like it was a bug in the rest of the stack that screwed up the context/parameters

[warped narwhal]

you've tracked your .env in git

[hard raptor]

there isn't even a git repo initialized lmao

[trim valve]

well there clearly is

did you use cargo init

[hard raptor]

does cargo init do that?

[trim valve]

yeah

[hard raptor]

oh

well

i no really publishing it publically anyways

[hearty notch]

[trim valve]

idk even then I still use git for stuff

I do enough massive refractors that break at the last minute to need it

[warped narwhal]

git reset --hard

https://tenor.com/view/house-explosion-explode-boom-kaboom-gif-19506150

[hearty notch]

yea but you dont ever have to use a public remote even if you do that

[trim valve]

where did I say about using a public remote

[hearty notch]

well it was relevant insofar as

committing your .env isnt problematic

as long as you dont

[trim valve]

*or ever end up

[hearty notch]

ye

[trim valve]

like, I could remove the break lights from my car if I was only gonna drive it around a farm

but then one day I might decide to take it on the road and get pulled over

its not hard to just, not remove my break lights

[opaque sigil]

[rancid cedar]

I want to make the development direction of the entire AI field move away from the control of the Transformer model architecture

[nocturne olive]

Well good luck with that

You're gonna need to crash the LLM craze first

[quick condor]

but to what exactly

[rancid cedar]

LLM Not AGI
They are actually just products of statistics

[nocturne olive]

AGI is not real

[quasi sundial]

matrix

[rancid cedar]

[quick condor]

I dont think it is impossible perse but it is inherently not a general spec to shift to

[rancid cedar]

[opaque sigil]

i think we should replace novels with paper

[quick condor]

I think Ima have to wait to do the training passes as I dont want to start poking at the base model on my project until I can get a stable mistral 3 version of it

[tender river]

[olive sable]

I havent done nixos yet

Instead i went to bed

[nocturne olive]

Have you decided on a DE yet?

[olive sable]

A what?

[nocturne olive]

Desktop environment

[olive sable]

Hyprland

[nocturne olive]

Oh I see

[olive sable]

Just like before

[nocturne olive]

Sily

Meanwhile I'm just stuck with Mint Cinnamon though I'm not complaining because it's good

[olive sable]

"Im just stuck" is superbox lingo for "i actually want to use mint cinnamon for some reason"

[nocturne olive]

It means I'm too established on this OS and reinstalling would be too much of a hassle

And I lack a machine to just mess around with and test random distros

[olive sable]

You can always just install in a different drive

Even a usb

[hard raptor]

using git don't mean it is public for everyone to see tho

[nocturne olive]

I don't have spare drives or USB drives
And neither do I want to have my servers go down

[olive sable]

You're telling me you dont have a single usb drive?

[nocturne olive]

Not any spare no

[olive sable]

"Spare" you can just temporarily put the data elsewhere

[nocturne olive]

I would like to not further degrade my old one

And still I don't want to have my server stuff go down

[sage crag]

string theocracy

[rancid cedar]

I Use Arch, btw

[sage crag]

[rancid cedar]

[nocturne olive]

Right now I couldn't mess around with distros on this PC if I wanted to because the subathon is going on and I want to archive it

[trim valve]

[karmic birch]

[sage crag]

it remind me of hazuki-inu

[opaque sigil]

you can have a rust toolchain without rustc?

[sage crag]

ye

rustc component of toolchain

can remove

[opaque sigil]

i thought it was a mandatory component

guess not

[rancid cedar]

pacman -S rust cargo (

[opaque sigil]

Each toolchain has several “components”, some of which are required (like rustc) and some that are optional (like clippy).
according to rustup, i wasn't completely tripping

[mighty thorn]

[sage crag]

its mandatory for compilation ye

cant compile without compiler

[silent cloak]

the EU has gifted me coal by screwing up the gantry alignment on my printer during shipping

[obsidian mantle]

do you guys ever sleepwalk

today i woke up and my heater was plugged and on
i do not remember moving it across the room and plugging it

how does brain work like that

[silent cloak]

yes

ive scared my parents when i was younger because i was sitting down stairs on the couch in the dark

like some sort of entity

thats the only time i think i ever sleep walked

[obsidian mantle]

what phase of sleep is that

[silent cloak]

REM i think

[obsidian mantle]

its supposed to have controls disabled on the rem phase

[silent cloak]

ur brain locks ur motor functions when u dream

[obsidian mantle]

is it a bug when it is not getting blocked

[silent cloak]

but sometimes it doesnt

[silent cloak]

yup

[obsidian mantle]

so interesting

[silent cloak]

sleep paralysis is another bug

but an exploitable one

[hard raptor]

imagine

[rancid cedar]

OK
Currently, I have a brain-inspired dynamic model with an accuracy close to 99.2% in MNIST training.

[obsidian mantle]

is it just neural network made from scratch

what does "brain-inspired" look like

[sick owl]

You know I've gone back and tried RTX video enhancement since they updated it to a new model and it's actually quite good now

Don't get me wrong it'll still butcher a good quality video but compared to the god awful colour banding and blocking artifacts on YouTube, it's actually preferable now

Like it does look AI upscaled but for something like a YouTube video and not a movie or TV show, that's actually preferable to default quality now

[quick condor]

How are you handling prompt building, static arrays or flexible modular prompts

[rancid cedar]

github.com/Matrix-Meta/PNB

No Kv-cache

[sage crag]

[quick condor]

How does it handle ugi

Actually the readme design constraints match pretty close to some of mine

I have a kv cache but it is treated more like working memory not conversation context...

[rancid cedar]

[mossy fossil]

The past couple of weeks i have been experimenting with Salix, and ngl: pretty comfy Linux experience. (though then again i've been daily driving Linux for a decade at this point, so... yeah.)

might make it my daily.

[quick condor]

its another model intelligence benchmark. pretty solid but the eval method is private (to avoid training bias)

[rancid cedar]

I didn't anticipate that(

[quick condor]

well her explanation of memories is probably pretty accurate, some kind of decay reinforcement method

[uneven coral]

Shame I am mentally disabled when it comes to programming. Kudos to those who are capable of doing so.

What i would give to have an AI adjutant to administrate projects i field.

[rancid cedar]

Oh Fuck
This model uses less memory than I expected
35mb

[obsidian mantle]

[rigid snow]

[patent shard]

My phone charged 7% in an hour I hope it just needs to be pulled off the charger and back on again

Yep, much better
Shoulda known something was up when battery was draining while charging with just light-medium load

[visual pawn]

I expect it'll happen at some point; image models transitioned from GAN to Transformers pretty quickly, I think everyone will move quickly enough if something proves to be better

[visual pawn]

time to embrace the vibes

[quick condor]

I mean the core methodology is the important part, that structure translates across languages and (to a certain extent) how you prompt agents.

[rigid snow]

dead chat

[sick owl]

"not" - Gemini 3 Pro

There are no thoughts in that chain of thought

Little eager there

[obsidian mantle]

Ai robot arm????

[visual pawn]

oh I got the motors and printed all the pieces for a SO-ARM101

but I haven't gotten around to it yet

[austere star]

No need to switch distros if you don't want to

I run cachyos on my desktop, debian on my laptop, and alpine for all my VMs

If you like a distro or if it works for you, leave it be and don't touch it, lest you curse it to be broken forever

[vernal current]

Did you see that facebook now uses valve's scheduler on their servers?

[austere star]

What

[severe path]

That's weird.
I thought Facebook would have enough engineers to make their own scheduler, if they need to?

You would think that in a group of 40K engineers, there would be at least one team that could write a custom kernel scheduler, if given enough time?

[vernal current]

they didn't want to waste the time and money according to what I saw

either that or they "replaced" those people with AI

[severe path]

That's some strange reasoning...

[hearty dirge]

Hi! Can someone explain how to use pips in phyton from vs code?

[austere star]

I can see how it would happen, but I'm still surprised they didn't tweak any of the pre-existing schedulers

[severe path]

Dunno. I don't use VS code.

Try

pip install [something idk]

in some random terminal

Unless you mean to ask for something else?

[austere star]

Nevermind, looked it up, they did twist the scheduler's arm into working for their use

[hearty dirge]

Thanks I will try now. I tried chatgbt and deepseek to solve but didn't work

[severe path]

I probably should have read more than the headline. I almost thought that Meta had stupid, incompetent engineers.

[austere star]

I love how many parts of our software get improved because gabe hates his previous employer

[severe path]

Pfft, Meta and Zuck is so stupid. His dumb*** engimeneers can't figure out how to put two toothpicks together.

Or something like that

[severe path]

Gabe is built different

[vernal current]

they did, they tweaked valve's scheduler that was made for the deck.

[sick owl]

The profane USB C AA

[severe path]

I assume that was put together by a Meta engineer?

[sick owl]

Nah, bundled with a random chinese torch

[austere star]

...how

How would this even work

[severe path]

Oh. That's boring. Did Meta get into the business of torching their servers?

[sick owl]

Wait where is this talk of meta coming from I'm confused

[severe path]

Found the Meta employee.

Let's get em', boys!

[sick owl]

It taps into dark and ancient magicks

[austere star]

We were talking about meta making contributions to valve's CPU scheduler

Because the same scheduler somehow improves frame pacing in elden ring on the steam deck and makes zucc happier about load balancing in his data centers

[sick owl]

Oh yeah, the elden ring example is classic

[austere star]

Serious guess incoming: is it one of the battery eliminator things where you turn a battery powered device into a wired device

[sick owl]

Did Vedal end up getting a steam deck today by the way, I had to go AFK for a second when that came up

[austere star]

I don't know, I slept through today's stream because timezone

[sick owl]

Whatever it is, it's extremely dangerous

Given it has the footprint of a AA battery

[severe path]

[austere star]

Nevermind wtf

It's an actual lithium battery with a type c port in a AA cell

[severe path]

What happens if you stick those in a calculator?

[tender river]

revive it

smh so spoiled

[austere star]

I really don't like the exposed port now, especially how close it is to the positive terminal

[rigid snow]

why is it an issue

[sick owl]

https://tenor.com/view/firephone-phone-typing-angry-gif-16638294950219488744

[rigid snow]

why is that an issue

[austere star]

You'll possibly burn it out, considering 3.7V is nowhere near 1.5

[severe path]

Overvoltage

[rigid snow]

hhhhhhhhhh

[rigid snow]

why is this an issue

[austere star]

Moisture or even water can fall into the port

[sick owl]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1140720036064014457/1364225928879669369/neuro_forsen_alright.gif

[severe path]

Oh yeah, that too.

[austere star]

Killing the port is relatively harmless from a safety standpoint, but having a battery terminal this close means the water can bridge the gap and cause unpredictable weird behaviour

Worst case scenario, magic smoke generator

[rigid snow]

it'll just corrode the gnd terminal in the port

surely

[severe path]

I guess it depends on how its wired. If it is particularly bad, it might just torch itself, instead of lighting a torch.

[austere star]

The port dying will just be emotionally painful, not a safety hazard

[austere star]

This is the worry

[sick owl]

Yeah we are talking about some random dodgy cursed artifact from China here

[rigid snow]

not with water

[sick owl]

I wouldn't exactly trust its quality assurance

[austere star]

I was gonna give an example but i remembered that was coffee

The heat probably changes the equation a lot

[rigid snow]

salt water maybe, fresh water has too much resistance

[sick owl]

Maybe you can sell it to Sidorovich

[austere star]

Anyway, i really don't like it, but 9 year old me would love it

[rigid snow]

to damage the cell

it'll just discharge slowly

[umbral thorn]

[severe path]

It might short out the battery, which will cause it to discharge. Most batteries will have a safety feature to prevent this, but the water might actually bypass it from sheer proximity.

If it sparks from discharging too fast, it might cause a chain reaction. The new electrical fire will keep conducting electricity, keeping itself going.

[sick owl]

I really wouldn't trust this thing to have any sort of quality safety features

[rigid snow]

point i'm making is it won't discharge too fast

[sick owl]

I mean it's a 3.7 volt USB C AA battery from a random Chinese torch

[severe path]

Oh wait...
You might be right

[rigid snow]

also aren't battery controllers like the cheapest silicon ever

also it should already have a charging controller

which do have safety features keep forgetting it's 3.7v supposedly

[severe path]

Its hard to know for sure what will happen, but it still doesn't look good for safety.

[rigid snow]

which would mean it's possible for it to be directly connected to the cell

the 3.7 in aa form factor spooks me out far more

[sick owl]

It's the combined effect of that and the USB-C port on a cell battery that kind of adds up to make this a cursed object

It feels like something that should be locked away in like an SCP chamber or something

[rigid snow]

to me that isn't news, i've seen these since like 2017 i know they exist

they used to have micro usb

but they should be 1.5

[austere star]

That would require expensive circuitry inside the battery to step down the voltage, too expensive for a battery bundled with something else

[rigid snow]

"expensive"

[umbral thorn]

[severe path]

Well, whether it torches itself, my calculator, or a torch, it's still cursed.

If Meta was in the business of electronic arson, this is almost certainly something they would come up with.

Zuck would be smiling, saying yeah, that'll piss off those Microsoft guys.

[rigid snow]

i remember i used to charge 18650s manually by just dumping 5v straight into them and disconnecting them once in a while to check the voltage. kinda sad i didn't blow my hand off maybe i would have learnt something

[austere star]

This is the kind of shit my mother was worried i would do, so I never got to play with raw 18650s

Then again it meant I played with nokia batteries which isn't really much better

[rigid snow]

those have a controller

[austere star]

I know

But they're used and you get them from alleyways

[austere star]

Then again this is true for everything I wanna buy

That reminds me

Does anyone here have experience with old intel atoms

Asking because it's currently all i have left to run my home server after somehow had all my DDR3 memory die in a single week

The only thing I'm worried about is whether it'll be able to run an mpd server without transcoding any of my music

I'm seeing a lot of conflicting info online, with people saying any network activity with mpd will run it to the ground, and others saying it works just fine

[severe path]

You should try it, and see what happens. It might actually work decently well

[austere star]

I've been procrastinating because i have like 30 gigs of music last i checked

The netbook doesn't have gigabit, so it's gonna take forever to load up

[severe path]

I don't have an Intel Atom, so I can't answer the question in earnest.

[austere star]

Oh well, I'll keep y'all updated

[severe path]

You're probably more likely to be throttled by your network card, than by your CPU, if I were to be honest.

Good luck!

Here is a tip: With Linux, you can dd a tar file directly onto a thumb drive. If you keep track of the tar file's size, this may allow for easy transfer of random file archives between Linux PCs.

[austere star]

This will actually be very helpful in other situations (not here, because USB 2 is all I have in terms of working thumb sticks)

[visual pawn]

do you mean just using pip in general or pip in python itself? because you would typically use pip outside of python

[olive sable]

Goodmorning

I think the time has come to install that nixos iso

[rigid snow]

good luck

[olive sable]

Lemme just

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-clumsy-hurt-fell-off-bed-gif-12276485

[opaque sigil]

[austere star]

Good luck

[olive sable]

nobody has faith in me

[austere star]

Faith won't save you

[opaque sigil]

i'm just going to say this now, don't be surprised if it looks like the installer gets stuck at 46% (unless it actually gets stuck according to logs, then you have a bigger problem)

[austere star]

Nix is a bigger deep dive into figuring out how linux works than arch or alpine are

Even something like https://gobolinux.org/ was easier for me to wrap my head around

But that's just me

Nix isn't that difficult

But it depends heavily on you

[opaque sigil]

there's plenty of people here that daily drive nixos at least so when he needs help there's that

[austere star]

Yes

[olive sable]

it seems like the latest update to cachyos fixed some hdr stuff

having hdr off doesnt look as terrible now

anyways

[hearty dirge]

Downloading pips and using in phyton.

[quick condor]

Well my model didn't shit the bed in a 6 person discord call so I'm going to call that a win. I need to add a flag to let me disable whisper halting on model gpu compute now that they don't share a gpu

[quick condor]

Although I may want to offload thinking to a second 24b api to reduce load

[olive sable]

[visual pawn]

downloading and installing a package using pip and then using the package in python you mean?

because if you have python, you should already have pip

[quick condor]

I should see how flash attention handles compiling on 72 cores with enough supporting ram

[tender river]

probably botched dd

[olive sable]

[tender river]

the logs dont show anything useful so thats just a guess tho

[olive sable]

Ill try it again

[tender river]

otherwise launch an interactive shell and check dmesg i guess

[olive sable]

launching windows from the external nvme enclosure lets me see the log-in screen for 1 sec before it crashes

[jagged turtle]

phyton?

[austere star]

Python's vegan twin

[jagged turtle]

lmao

[austere star]

Maybe bootstrappable?

Man now I want to see how cursed an attempt at bootstrapping python can be

[opaque sigil]

in what way

[tender river]

its not hard, just pointless

bootstrapping an interpreted language is roughly equivalent to writing a jit

unless you just mean a metacircular interpreter which is even easier but kinda even more pointless

futamura projections my beloved

[olive sable]

Im in

[rancid cedar]

[hearty dirge]

I am using vs code and code type is pyhton but I cant import pips it into my code

[visual pawn]

you don't import pips

pip is like a separate program you run outside of python

you use it to download and install packages that you can import in python

so you'll have a terminal in VS Code; you do not want it to be in python

you want it to be a regular terminal, then you can do "pip install [package name]" to install a package

[opaque sigil]

it might be pointed towards the wrong python environment so it doesn't resolve the imports correctly

[visual pawn]

yeah, if what you're saying is that you can't import the stuff that you are installing using pip

then it could be using a different python on your system

[jagged turtle]

you're on windows, right?

[hearty dirge]

Yes thats what I say.

[hearty dirge]

Yep

[jagged turtle]

run where python.exe

[hearty dirge]

After downloading I got an error like " pip doesn't found " but I downloaded.

[jagged turtle]

did you restart vscode

[hearty dirge]

In terminal

[hearty dirge]

Yes.

[visual pawn]

python not in path?

[jagged turtle]

after installing?

[jagged turtle]

afaict, yup

unless this was a version of python w/o pip (pretty goddamn impossible these days)

[visual pawn]

Python being added to PATH may not have been checked when they installed

[hearty dirge]

How can I check it

[jagged turtle]

usually it's checked by default, no?

[visual pawn]

I think it actually isn't checked by default in some

[visual pawn]

do you know how to check your Environment Variables?

[opaque sigil]

unfortunately no it isn't

[hearty dirge]

Nope I am a starter but I know coding

[jagged turtle]

that's a weird thing to do

[visual pawn]

I assume it was done so people wouldn't end up with ovewriting the python in PATH with the wrong version or something

[tender river]

toast save me i live in incremental hell

[visual pawn]

but it's silly imo

[jagged turtle]

yes

[opaque sigil]

have fun in hell

[visual pawn]

Search for Environment Variables in your start menu, then click Environment Variables, then look at Path in User or System variables

[hearty dirge]

Can someone prefer a free vpn for pc discord banned in my country.

[visual pawn]

if it does not have a path to Python in either one, it should

[cedar plume]

russia?

[hearty dirge]

Turkey

[cedar plume]

[opaque sigil]

proton is free

[hearty dirge]

Kebab country.

[cedar plume]

ig it depends how complicated the ban is

[visual pawn]

you should see this; if you do not, you need to add it:

[cedar plume]

i vaguely recall some russian guys in another server i'm in who needed to do some convoluted shit to use discord

[tender river]

i can pretend i dont want to support tree-like eval orders for now and just use lists, surely that makes everything easier

[visual pawn]

replace the exact path to Python with wherever your Python is

[opaque sigil]

3.11 in almost 2026

[tender river]

windows

[austere star]

Difficulty only depends on how masochistic you are how far down you wanna go; for shits and giggles, the best way to bootstrap is to start with assembly for whatever processor you want

[visual pawn]

I don't use this laptop for anything, sue me

[tender river]

assembly only targeted by hobbyists

real life projects use portable IRs

or VMs

[opaque sigil]

and then they slap another one of two IRs on top of that

[austere star]

There's a reason I don't have the programming tag

[tender river]

make sense

IRs yummy

[austere star]

Role

Whatever

[hearty dirge]

Proton banned too.

[opaque sigil]

[visual pawn]

dang https://stockholmcf.org/turkey-blocks-access-to-27-popular-vpn-services-amid-tightening-internet-restrictions

[hearty dirge]

Yep wellcome to Turkey.

[visual pawn]

apparently they don't ban VPNs themselves; they just block individual VPN providers

some paid VPN services have obfuscated servers

but if you need it to be free then uhh

ask someone outside of the country to set up a VPN for you?

[olive sable]

Im in hyprland

Kitty wont launch

No terminal for me

[cedar plume]

mullvad isn't on the list

[tender river]

recommended first steps https://nixos.asia/en/configuration-as-flake

[tender river]

can always use ctrl alt f2-f6 to switch to virtual terminals

but you probably know

[olive sable]

Oh ye

[opaque sigil]

is kitty even installed

[hearty dirge]

I solved the problem. They just banned the website and I used another vpn to download it.

[visual pawn]

I was gonna say, seems they didn't/can't ban Mullvad but they just blocked the website

[olive sable]

It should be, i added it to the list thing

[hearty dirge]

Thanks for helping.

[olive sable]

I see a window open and then immediatly close

[cedar plume]

check your kitty config

[obsidian mantle]

if they block discord using dpi you can try this - many russians use it.
https://github.com/ValdikSS/GoodbyeDPI

idk how to contract embed

enjoy anime pfp

[opaque sigil]

<>

[obsidian mantle]

[hearty dirge]

I solved the problem but thanks. They just banned the website and I used another vpn to access proton.

[opaque sigil]

you installed the nvidia drivers right

[obsidian mantle]

yeah need vpn to use vpn classic

[hearty dirge]

Yep. Its just only usable for chrome.

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

i'll take that as a no then

[olive sable]

I havent installed any drivers

[opaque sigil]

https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nvidia here you go

[tender river]

wrong wikiiii

https://wiki.nixos.org/wiki/NVIDIA

[opaque sigil]

[tender river]

[olive sable]

I can just boot into plasma i guess and use the terminal there

Im failing to log in to the ctr alt f2 terminal

[tender river]

do you know your username

[opaque sigil]

you should technically have a gpu driver installed i think so i don't think it's kitty failing to use the gpu (though it should be nouveau so who knows)

[obsidian mantle]

where is this emote from

[olive sable]

I do, but my password is long and has numlock. And i cant see where im failing

[tender river]

why not just use number keys

[olive sable]

My gamedev server. But the gif has been shared here before

[obsidian mantle]

oh

[olive sable]

.

Poi jan poi jan

[hearty dirge]

Yeah I am typing from pc W.

[jagged turtle]

copilot is stupid

[cedar plume]

"grass is green" ahh statement

[cedar plume]

how is your display manager and .profile configured?

[olive sable]

Idk

Im still figuring that out

[cedar plume]

wait what does kde even use again

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

sddm and it doesn't apply here

though they're working on getting rid of sddm iirc

[cedar plume]

are they thinking of a replacement?

[opaque sigil]

i don't remember if it's from scratch but yeah

[cedar plume]

ok ngl i forgot about the part where they can start plasma

[opaque sigil]

looks like it's based on the sddm core nvm

[cedar plume]

https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-login-manager

[opaque sigil]

ye that one

[cedar plume]

intriguing

[olive sable]

Failed to connect to us.download.nvidia.com port 443

[umbral thorn]

[tender river]

[obsidian mantle]

elvy is literally cybuero

[tender river]

no thats me

[obsidian mantle]

you too yes

[olive sable]

I think the dowload worked now after nix collect garbage

[olive sable]

Nice pixels

[rancid cedar]

[olive sable]

I lied apparently

[opaque sigil]

what are you trying to do

[olive sable]

This

[tender river]

it will just hang until downloaded

its probably like a 500mb file

give it time

[olive sable]

Nah it errors with Failed to connect to us.download.nvidia.com port 443

[tender river]

try open drivers maybe

otherwise something like manually downloading the file and running nix-store --add-fixed sha256 path/to/file.run should work

[opaque sigil]

weird, i can download the file just fine

[olive sable]

Ok it seems to work now

Kitty stopped instantly crashing

[opaque sigil]

guess it was nouveau's fault after all

[sage crag]

wrr

[tender river]

[olive sable]

Is the rebuilding live, or do i restart my pc each time?

[tender river]

no it just happens immediately

only kernel updates require a reboot

[olive sable]

[tender river]

if you dont want that you have to nixos-rebuild boot rather than nixos-rebuild switch

or vice versa if you dont want it to persist after a reboot you can nixos-rebuild test

[olive sable]

I want to go to the new one so that works

[tender river]

anyway ill repeat this one

[olive sable]

I have thunar installed now so im gonna copy parts of my hyprland config from my old drive now

[olive sable]

ill do that after

[tender river]

[opaque sigil]

do yourself a favour and track your system flake with git too

[jagged turtle]

lmao I'm cooked

claude sonnet 4.5 copilot has more thinking ability than me

[opaque sigil]

thinking is overrated

[jagged turtle]

(context: I was thinking of a way to quickly generate an ID for each action for a new feature in neuropilot, but copilot just realised it could just reuse the ID attached to each action from Neuro and it would be more straightforward as well)

[olive sable]

Im trying to make thunar see more than 1 drive

I succeeded

[jagged turtle]

ah fun, vscode is freezing now

[sage crag]

only?

i was wondering if there are any other exceptions

[tender river]

probably some random systemd shenanigans

[sage crag]

something like display managers

annoying state

[tender river]

well if you disable sddm presumably systemctl stop sddm would happen

[sage crag]

it spooky

[tender river]

oh what if display manager update

stop old start new

[sage crag]

sddm feel unlikely to break anything when stopped though

[tender river]

[sage crag]

gdm on other hand

vibe based analysis

me thought about word "vibe" yesterday

forgot that it root word is "vibration"

now me realise "it has xyz vibes" sound like some kind of crystal weirdo

[tender river]

maybe come from music circles

[sage crag]

almost certainly

[tender river]

better than talking about aura

oh oh could be worse

we could be talking about chakras

[sage crag]

<- evil and intimidating aura

aura as word did have literary use but mostly in fantasy story

even harry potter () use

[jagged turtle]

incorrect capitalisation lmao

[tender river]

ye can still be used as literary analog of vibes

[sage crag]

[tender river]

"calm, confident aura" or whatever

[sage crag]

i got new headphones

door opening jumpscare me

turn around there no door

[tender river]

which headphones

[sage crag]

sony xm5

not actually new it second hand from family member

[tender river]

wireless

[sage crag]

ye for listen to music

noise cancelling make being in crowded place bearable

[tender river]

fancy headphone mine sony too but cheap

[tender river]

is iems not enough

me use over-ear at home in-ear outside

[sage crag]

me only use in ear when bringing over ear is impossible

in ear sensory nightmare ee

[tender river]

my only gripe with IEMs is how easily they fall prey to humidity

fancy iems -> drop in snow -> bad iems

[olive sable]

Ive been thinking about upgrading to the xm6 but as long as my old ones work idk if i should

[sage crag]

<- cant do with iem

[sage crag]

why sam have money

[tender river]

cant emit note from head

[olive sable]

Currently have sony ch720n. And they're fine

I dont want to spend money just cuz i can

[sage crag]

i think emit more note from head with iem

[tender river]

earbud and iem different

[sage crag]

enub also different

do not put in ear it will bite

[tender river]

cause hearing loss

[sage crag]

mug

why me have good headphones if everyone peaking microphones in video anyway

crunch crunch wrr

benefit music

[sage crag]

also do wired via usbc

[tender river]

builtin amp probably

headphone with no headphone jack

[sage crag]

[jagged turtle]

would these colours be good or should I add one for "exceptions thrown" actions as well (mostly asking to see if thrown exceptions are important enough)

[sage crag]

it does have

[olive sable]

My mobo supposedly has 600ohm amp inside

Maybe i should get 600ohm headphones

[sage crag]

youtube music only stream low quality audio

amazon music stream hq but sell me soul

[tender river]

tidal

[sage crag]

how me supposed to listen to paper bouquet hq

wrrr

[tender river]

[tender river]

deezer too i think

[sage crag]

wrr

[olive sable]

Amazon music is supposed to be included in prime, and i have prime. But music doesnt work in belgium

[sage crag]

have to sign up

[tender river]

oh and qobuz

[visual pawn]

how's it feel with the rest of us

[jagged turtle]

?

[visual pawn]

being outsmarted by claude 4.5 sonnet

[sage crag]

who's "the rest of us"

outsmarted by nonthinking machine

[visual pawn]

ok fine, join me in being outsmarted

[olive sable]

I cant be outsmarted when i dont compete to begin with

[jagged turtle]

it still managed to fail to realise that it put an extra semicolon afterwards so I'd say thinking is still lacking

[visual pawn]

savant behaviour; unconcerned with the small things

that's for the humans to notice

[jagged turtle]

tf is savant

[sage crag]

semicolon

[sage crag]

exponential decay

[visual pawn]

a savant is someone with a hyper specific genius intellect

the trope is someone who has trouble with simple things but suddenly does something super smart

[olive sable]

The hyprland.conf file on my old linux drive opens the new one for some reason

[tender river]

symlink probably

[olive sable]

Bwaa

[sage crag]

savant syndrome is not just a "trope"

[tender river]

find the actual file its supposed to point to

[olive sable]

Uh

Sure

[visual pawn]

yeah but I was going off of the trope when I referenced it

[sage crag]

off of

[visual pawn]

?

[wise echo]

I made an openai compat API that gives you free access to basically any LLM, with no auth! (I do log all request data tho)
Base URL: https://api.ai-ml.dev/v1

[jagged turtle]

free AI endpoint (someone will spam it)

[sage crag]

wrrrrrr
^ hard to transcribe in katakana

[obsidian mantle]

Wururururu

[sage crag]

no its wrong

[olive sable]

I have a website where people can store their creditcard information for free

[tender river]

japanese not like consonant cluster

[sage crag]

ye

closest can get is －

[obsidian mantle]

But it just adds pause

"prolonging"

[rigid snow]

rrrrrr is vowel

[olive sable]

does that mean my last name isnt possible?

[obsidian mantle]

Wait... Vowel??

[rigid snow]

rrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[tender river]

っ

[olive sable]

Rururururu

[sage crag]

not vowel cant be smoothly transitioned to another vowel

wrr

lie

[rigid snow]

i can kinda

[visual pawn]

isn't it because japanese syllables are often something like a consonant and a vowel and you can't really divide it more than that?

[wise echo]

Spam it I dare you

Abuse it if you want

[sage crag]

xtsu same thing

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

monka escaped confinement

[tender river]

me type ltu

[rigid snow]

(they really want your data)

[sage crag]

me ime have xtsu and stsu, not tried ltu

[jagged turtle]

nah I got better things to do

[tender river]

tu same as tsu

[sage crag]

work on mobile

[obsidian mantle]

I would type some double sound like kka and remove the ka

[tender river]

same for si for し

[sage crag]

[tender river]

or hu for ふ

[obsidian mantle]

I cant try from phone

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

sometimes confuse me

wrr

[rigid snow]

program deez

[sage crag]

that name is trademarked sorry

odd socks for christmas

[tender river]

odd number

prime

[sage crag]

yes there odd number of pairs

[tender river]

no

odd number of sock

[sage crag]

in fact prime number of pairs

[obsidian mantle]

3 socks

[rigid snow]

odd number of pairs is even number of socks

[sage crag]

odd number of sock can be resolved with sock coalescence

wear two sock on one foot

[tender river]

and one on another

sound uncomfortable

[rigid snow]

that would suck

[sage crag]

sock coalesced

[olive sable]

Just lose a sock so you're back to an even number

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

no, bad, you lose permutation

[tender river]

instead of sock pairs

[olive sable]

I dont care

[tender river]

have one pair

[olive sable]

I think

[tender river]

one triple

one quintuple

one septuple

[sage crag]

its very important

[tender river]

one uuh 11-ple

[rigid snow]

11-ple

[sage crag]

prime socks

[olive sable]

I currently already have 2 pairs of christmass socks where 1 pair is slightly more green. And im too colourblind to see it or care

So i will absolutly just remove a sock to get an even amount

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuple_names
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuple

[tender river]

undecuple of socks

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

i said this 2 days ago

already happen

since then

[tender river]

novemseptuagintuple of socks

[sage crag]

too many sock

[tender river]

coalesce them

[sage crag]

if sock was 1 atom of hydrogen thick

how thick is a novemseptuagintuple of sock

[tender river]

79 atom of hydrogen thick

hopefully

the thickness of a

novemseptuagintuple of atoms of hydrogen

[rare sky]

ChilloutVR here has gotten way better and there is no paywall BS or VRC+ or EAC, etc like VRC has, modding is allowed, they have an SDK 2.0 like system with 3.0 aspects, game is all and all better then VRC in may ways (found this post when searching CVR in this discord's search function XD) also CVR allows scripting in its experimental branches witch is nice and cool, all and all its a grate game and I would recommend it to anyone who wants to try it XD

[sage crag]

ohh me thought it was big number

like a rontoquectuple of sock

[tender river]

ne me too lazy convert large prime to tuple

[olive sable]

ello

i am on the nixos

[tender river]

[sage crag]

so hydrogen atom have size of about 10^-10 m apparently

[sage crag]

this means 10^47 m of sock

[tender river]

coalesce sock of hydrogen atom

hydrogen fusion

[sage crag]

which

is about

10^21 times larger than the observable universe

radius

[tender river]

that is a bit huge

[sage crag]

a bit

[olive sable]

i haven't been on nixos for more than an hour and im already doing cursed stuff
exec-once = /nix/store/hn8sqwq0j3qfxvdy774avj38iqz36cii-polkit-kde-agent-1-6.5.4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1

[tender river]

appetite back not as sick anymore

single gc after update = path disappear

[olive sable]

oh

bwaa

how do i make it not dissapear?

[tender river]

no way, path is tied to package version

[olive sable]

uh

[tender river]

you cant reference nix store paths directly

[olive sable]

i need polkit to make thunar mounting drives work

[sage crag]

it would weigh more than observable universe too

[tender river]

do you want polkit?

then just something like

security.polkit.enable = true;

[sage crag]

mass of hydrogen atom is 10^-27 kg

mass of observable universe is 10^53

[tender river]

see also

man 5 configuration.nix

[sage crag]

now uuh, the thickness alone weigh 10^30 kg, not consider other two dimensions

mug

[tender river]

faster than web search

[sage crag]

if you approximate as cube it is 10^90 kg

ish

[tender river]

one hydrogen atom thick sock surely not that long

[sage crag]

handwavy number for handwavy scale

[sage crag]

not one sock

all 10^57

[tender river]

[sage crag]

heavy sock

hydrogen gas much denser than i remember

[tender river]

it

incomparable to my memory

because me not remember anything

[sage crag]

densest object is

leaf

[tender river]

[sage crag]

[tender river]

warp light

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

doesnt work with only that for some reason

[tender river]

try relogging in

[olive sable]

i did

[sage crag]

defeat by

nesting bird

[tender river]

wrr try hyprpolkitagent

[tender river]

mug

[sage crag]

i acquired

microwave heated plush

feels dangerous

[tender river]

https://discourse.nixos.org/t/polkit-not-working-in-hyprland/58861

[sage crag]

volatile chemicals

[tender river]

why microwave plush

[sage crag]

make it warm

it lavender scented

[tender river]

microwave not good plush health

[sage crag]

it says on the health guideline 850W for 60s

[tender river]

you better not do 59s

[sage crag]

sorry thats the heating instructions

health guideline went missing

[tender river]

[sage crag]

it a bit concerning

[tender river]

konii osha violator

[sage crag]

microwave soup for 60s at 850w it already hot enough to burn me

why turn plush into plasma

[olive sable]

plasma yum

used for preserveing food

[sage crag]

wrr

[tender river]

so uh the way they recommended in that thread is roughly

security.polkit.enable = true;
environment.systemPackages = with pkgs; [ kdePackages.plasma.polkit-kde-agent-1 ];

then in exec-once

systemctl --user start plasma-polkit-agent

plasma

[sage crag]

annoying

[tender river]

hyprland

[opaque sigil]

for me on plasma just enabling polkit works

sth sth hyprland issue

maybe it's a xdg portal issue?

[tender river]

ye the hyprland-native alternative is something like environment.systemPackages = with pkgs; [ hyprpolkitagent ]; and exec-once = systemctl --user start hyprpolkitagent

[sage crag]

seem to be generic polkit agent

[tender river]

ne just hyprland thing

[sage crag]

polkit enabled itself on plasma

[tender river]

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

you're probably right

[sage crag]

its in my services on kde even though not enabled

[olive sable]

ok works now

awawa

[tender river]

me probably not even have polkit agent

never need one

[sage crag]

me not have

[olive sable]

uh

[opaque sigil]

actually no it doesn't set services.polkit.enable, at leat not directly for plasma 6

though there's polkit-kde-agent-1 being added

[olive sable]

i cant take screenshots
forgot i need a program for that

[sage crag]

hyprshot

[opaque sigil]

i'm sure something somewhere enables it

[tender river]

why does it give big company naming their products vibes like gsuite

[sage crag]

bad naming

[olive sable]

my google login is malformed The server cannot process the request because it is malformed

[tender river]

not feel that way with swaylock/swayidle but hyprlock feel more annoying

familiarity or bad name 🤔

[sage crag]

hypr <- annoying prefix

hyper <- still annoying less annoying

[tender river]

[olive sable]

hyper is already
so hypr is a bit overdoing it

[tender river]

gamers

me never tired making fun of hyprland

[olive sable]

[tender river]

not personal me not care if people use it

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1331780365878038559.gif?size=160&name=neuroJam

[olive sable]

ye same

you can hate it if you want, i will still use it

[mossy fossil]

i never saw the point of hyprland

[olive sable]

well

[mossy fossil]

...or wayland for that mannef

[olive sable]

there is no point

it just looks good

[mossy fossil]

i'm perfectly fine here, sitting in old reliable XFCE

[olive sable]

cool for you

[rigid snow]

no good wm no good de

is reason to make own but i don’t know what i need either

[tender river]

theres many ones configurable with code me not use fine as is

mostly xorg based tho

xmonad awesomewm

[olive sable]

what do yall use to edit the nix config?
nano's shortcuts annoy me and vscode isnt allowed te edit the file cuz permissions

[tender river]

do the thing i linked

[olive sable]

oh

[tender river]

https://nixos.asia/en/configuration-as-flake

me use nvim when need to edit something as root tho

konii use micro probably

me hate modeless

[olive sable]

i dont have nvim

nor micro

[rigid snow]

being indoctrinated is fun you say

[olive sable]

yes

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

you're jsut inpatient

i like fixing problems

[rigid snow]

are you saying it's not time for you to learn vim yet

[olive sable]

idk

[opaque sigil]

i just use vscode like for everything else, this is why you move your config out of /etc

[olive sable]

vim makes me think of the management company in bojack

so i cant take it seriously

[visual pawn]

what about good old nano huh, huh?

[olive sable]

no

the shortcuts drive me insane

[rigid snow]

maybe 3d stacking wm like apple vision pro is what i really need

maybe not who knows

not me

[tender river]

physical stacking wm

one monitor one window

you can arrange them however you want

[olive sable]

B580

[mossy fossil]

me watching the wayland, systemd, etc debate from a safe distance on my slackware (salix) daily driver: 🍿

[tender river]

why include public ip in there

[rigid snow]

home address:
social security number:
credit card:
ahh

[olive sable]

[rancid cedar]

oh fuck

[olive sable]

good for you

op

[rancid cedar]

Now It's OK

[olive sable]

[mossy fossil]

since people are doing fetches, here's mine.

[desert wave]

I love CSS

[tender river]

monospace

i spent so much time on monospace css

[olive sable]

activate linux

[mossy fossil]

good ol' joke progam

[olive sable]

1024x1280

[tender river]

probably

pre {
  white-space: pre-wrap;
  overflow-wrap: break-word;
}

[mossy fossil]

i use a VGA Monitor that just refuses to die on me

i have it for like 20 years at this point, and it just won't die

[tender river]

not counting syntax highlighting

its best not to count it

for your sanity

[mossy fossil]

so fuck it, it still works, not gonna bother with a new monitor then

[olive sable]

okay

[tender river]

oh ye pure soul who hath not knoweth 120hz

[rigid snow]

very cozy

[mossy fossil]

i just see higher refresh rates as uncessesary ngl

i barely game nowadays

[olive sable]

the fish cannot imagine how it is to be on land

[tender river]

they arent necessary just comfy

60hz scrolling

[rigid snow]

i wonder how long until liquid glass effects in a de

[tender river]

60hz cursor movement

[olive sable]

100hz supposedly

oops

[mossy fossil]

i could bump this up to 75hz, but... nah.

[olive sable]

wrong one

[rigid snow]

why not it’s the sweet spot tbh

[olive sable]

refreshrate isnt even mentioned here

[mossy fossil]

lol you're right

[olive sable]

its free extra frames

i would oc to 75

[mossy fossil]

not sure if the 75hz on this monitor is native or OC

if it's OC, that's less life to the monitor in the long term

[olive sable]

its a 1024x1280 monitor, if it was up to me i'd be in the trash already

[tender river]

[mossy fossil]

i hate throwing away stuff that is functional still

[tender river]

wasting monitors

[tender river]

1024x1280 perfectly usable for like

[rancid cedar]

[tender river]

discord window

[olive sable]

sure i guess

i feel like a dp to vga adapter would cost more than getting a better monitor tho

[mossy fossil]

this motherboard natively supports VGA

[olive sable]

its igpu?

[mossy fossil]

yes

[opaque sigil]

Bold assumption to make smh

[olive sable]

fair enough

[rancid cedar]

It's fucking usable

[olive sable]

1080p 75hz monitrs are like 15 bucks 2ndhand

[opaque sigil]

No I meant that an adapter would be necessary

[olive sable]

oh

okay

[mossy fossil]

iGPU is also good enough for the few games i still play from time to time. i barely touched modern stuff to begin with lmao

[tender river]

writing evaluators

annoying

[mossy fossil]

in fact, i hate throwaway culture altogether. e-waste only exists in my eyes when it doesn't work, and is too difficult (or is otherwise impossible) to repair

[tender river]

i mostly agree but sometimes you have to also take power efficiency into account

[olive sable]

i also just have performance targets

wont be using a 10 year old gpu anytime soon unless its for console games

[mossy fossil]

i don't have strict performance targets. if it works, that's probably good enough for me to come up with some use for it. my old core 2 duo desktop got repurposed as a home server.

[olive sable]

those are still being used?

[mossy fossil]

yeah, my municipality has lots of them in storage, they often use them as thin clients though

[olive sable]

thats crazy

[mossy fossil]

(i would know, i interned in their IT department)

[olive sable]

2006 is 20 years ago

almost

[mossy fossil]

feelsoldman

it's almost the 10 year anniversary since i first started using linux... Full-Time.

[tender river]

work

forgot to invert polarity of derived edges

[olive sable]

idk what that means but goodluck

[mossy fossil]

because if it was "since i started using linux" full stop, that'd be its... 18th anniversary

IT'S OLD ENOUGH TO DRINK SOON

[olive sable]

erm

u mean 21?

[mossy fossil]

we're not in the land of the free

[olive sable]

ye thats my point

[mossy fossil]

Portugal's Drinking Age is 18

(and voting age too)

[olive sable]

you said soon while above it saying it was already 18

so i assumed you meant a number higher than 18