programming

[tender river]

so any advantages would be in difference in features (like various encryption, signature or whatever other algorithms) and integration with the software ecosystem (gpg is horrible like the gnu software it is but everyone uses it)

[opaque sigil]

ssh keys don't expire and can't easily be revoked I guess which is probably a problem

[tender river]

they do actually optional

[opaque sigil]

via client certificates wasn't it right

something like that

[tender river]

i guess major thing with pgp is keyservers

like https://keys.openpgp.org/

[opaque sigil]

ye

i'm lazy just let me use the same key for everything

[sage crag]

i have

one key

it called

password

[olive sable]

Goodmorning

[sage crag]

is it

[olive sable]

Idk

I think it is

Aitho i had a sad dream

[sick owl]

https://fixupx.com/ailozovskaya/status/2001749312145871013

Alina Lozovskaya (@ailozovskaya)

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I don't like this guy's energy

Grabby needy vedal type beat

[olive sable]

Why is discord's video player absolute garbage?

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

i knew perfectly that this is hf related but still took me a while to realize those aren't feet

[sage crag]

its like

corpo wall-e

[rigid snow]

ye the detached head is giving eve

true

[sage crag]

i think cyber neuro might be my favourite outfit of hers

[rigid snow]

💢

[sage crag]

wuero #2

[rigid snow]

why is this nn now

[olive sable]

Those are hands???

[rigid snow]

it's inspired by huggingface logo

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

🤗

[opaque sigil]

crazy that they named an emoji after them

[olive sable]

I do t like that emoji

It looks weird

[sage crag]

bad emoji

[opaque sigil]

to me it looks like someone pushing you away

[sage crag]

<- good emoji

<- good emoji

[rigid snow]

the twemoji is so bad

[sage crag]

i should make

neurocord emoji tier list

[olive sable]

If someone tries to hug my face i will smack them

[rigid snow]

apple much better

microsoft good too

[olive sable]

Its still bad

Better, but not good

[rigid snow]

twemoji hands too large and detached

[olive sable]

This one still tops 🫂

🤗 actually, why are the hands facing this way?

[rigid snow]

yeah it's more grabbing than hugging

[olive sable]

I thought they're supposed to face the other way with the arms crossed

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

it's supposed to be reaching

i think

irl you would probably have the hands perpendicular to the pov of the one being reached out to

[olive sable]

Its just not it

[rigid snow]

which doesn't translate to 2d well

like this

[olive sable]

I think microsoft for once has the best one

[sage crag]

live hug

in #programming

first time this ever occur between programmers

[rigid snow]

live

[sage crag]

dead hug

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

Oh god, i just recognized this image from the replies the vedal's pfp change

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

Im not explaining, i plead the 5th or something

[rigid snow]

classic rune
we don't talk about that here sam

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

Good

[sage crag]

a rune is a datatype in go

that replaces the char datatype

[rigid snow]

good

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

i saw that elsewhere i can't remeember where

oh swift probably

i used to talk to one math nerd

he's like the real deal, oh physics too

anyway, he's not a programmer, his favorite lang was swift somehow

over python

[sage crag]

machitan hausser

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

neuro4

[olive sable]

=x

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

Neuromath

[sage crag]

in hell we live, lament

[rigid snow]

neurothmetic

[olive sable]

What does lament mean?

[sage crag]

use a dictionary

[olive sable]

I thought it was the plastic stuff you put on printed paper

[sage crag]

no, thats a laminate

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

[to] lament

• [to] experience grief/sorrow over an event

[olive sable]

a passionate expression of grief or sorrow.

[rigid snow]

ye basically to grieve

why different word

[sage crag]

different vibe

[olive sable]

But why would i grieve?

[sage crag]

english all about the vibe

wrr

theres also: lamentable

"its lamentable that X happened"

[olive sable]

Laminateable

[sage crag]

no thats a different word

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

its a song name

[rigid snow]

you're laminateable

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

We're all laminateable

Its plastic wrap

Or something

[rigid snow]

tough plastic wrap

[olive sable]

While i was on twitter for the first time in probably a year i saw this

[rigid snow]

that one went viral ye

i remember seeing this tweet outside of twitter

[olive sable]

Its not my image

The posted the image

I dont use light mode

[rigid snow]

too bad, you should

[sage crag]

i think my favourite mili song is

string theocracy

ohh actually

paper bouquet is also really good

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=olcXwkJZxJk

[rigid snow]

i wanted to say i don't know any other songs but i actually do know like one more

still agree

[olive sable]

Im a creature of the night, not too far off from a vampire.
Prob closer to a goblin but who cares

[sage crag]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Wykhe7OgZeA

oo @umbral thorn drawing idea

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

it's so cold

[sage crag]

na

[umbral thorn]

[olive sable]

Its 4C rn where i am

Ill stay under the blanket

[sage crag]

elvy n atori

[rigid snow]

-12

[umbral thorn]

yeee

[olive sable]

Awawawa

[tender river]

mine definitely rtrt

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

this is my first time hearing a song from them

[tender river]

how

[rigid snow]

oh fuck off

[sage crag]

if/when cheerleaf rejoin

[tender river]

neuro covered a billion mili songs

[sage crag]

answer

sam have never watched a stream

[rigid snow]

yuh uh

[olive sable]

true

I watch mainly during subathon and occasionally a dev stream

[sage crag]

karaoke stream best stream

[olive sable]

The karaoke streams i barely watch at all

[sage crag]

eliv guitar

[tender river]

https://imgur.com/a/CO5Mscw

[olive sable]

I do like those streams, but i eat at 8pm

[rigid snow]

i airpods and lock screen

[sage crag]

you are?

[rigid snow]

i did not say i am therefore

[tender river]

therefore you aren't

[olive sable]

Im not gonna sit at the dinner table with wireless earbuds in

[rigid snow]

i ant

[sage crag]

ant

destroy

[olive sable]

🐜

[tender river]

yes yes yes yes

[sage crag]

leafcutter ant

[tender river]

people who like ant

never had to deal with ant

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

I think occasionally, therefore i am occasionally?

[sage crag]

no

i think you dont think

i dont think you think

[olive sable]

I think occasionally

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

i think all the time but about right thing none of the time

[sage crag]

sentences where

{a} {b} {c} {d} == {a} {c} {b} {d}

[tender river]

when i was a kid i didnt mind ants they're doing their own thing and barely bite you (well depends on species and how much you disturb them)

but

[rigid snow]

ant bites are kinda fun

[tender river]

when they start stealing your food

[sage crag]

my friends told me black ant too weak to bite human skin

[olive sable]

The punctuation on this ine is weak. I have no clue what you said

[sage crag]

they were wrong

[tender river]

me once step in anthill instantly notice because foot felt slightly prickly

[sage crag]

me think it perfectly clear

[rigid snow]

i think all the time but about wrong things

[olive sable]

Ah

Hmm

[sage crag]

why step in ant hill

[olive sable]

I dont remember when and what i think

[sage crag]

that their hill

big whole hill for ant

[tender river]

it was more like ant hole than hill

[sage crag]

ant hole

danger

[tender river]

ye me fill with oil

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

Oil?

[sage crag]

comma

[olive sable]

Shh

[tender river]

not actually remember

but i think it was oil?

[rigid snow]

i am very a daydreamer

[olive sable]

Im on mobile. Keyboard here azerty

[sage crag]

ok

comma

[olive sable]

Komma

[sage crag]

i hav bad habit of biting the inside of my mouth

[olive sable]

Same

[tender river]

ow

[sage crag]

hav scars in my mouth from it

like line, on both inner cheek

[rigid snow]

scars i do that too but no scars

[olive sable]

How do you know if its a scar? Cuz i have brob biten every part

[tender river]

me have dog bite scar

[sage crag]

i can feel them

[sage crag]

is stress response

[rigid snow]

sure then i guess i have

scar

[sage crag]

it feel like lines

[rigid snow]

ye

[olive sable]

I mainly bite my lips, but the skin surrounding the lips is a lot looser

Easier to bite off

[rigid snow]

easier to bite off someone elses finger

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

No thats actually a lot harder

[rigid snow]

i said therefore

therefore.

[olive sable]

What

[tender river]

[olive sable]

You never said therefore

[rigid snow]

i did, in fact, say therefore. therefore therefore

.

[sage crag]

qrr

[olive sable]

Huh

[sage crag]

nsus

explod

[olive sable]

Ah

Suddendly osu

[tender river]

you quit 1 map got 0 score

but

[rigid snow]

Qualification Review Report

[tender river]

ye

still like 1m

maybe 0.7

[sage crag]

i was doing fine until

Happy Flower

[olive sable]

Konii might just bite deeper than us

[rigid snow]

we figured out i do

[hard raptor]

guess what time it is!

[rigid snow]

demo time

[hard raptor]

Yeh

[olive sable]

Hayleigh explode time

[rigid snow]

[hard raptor]

HEY!

[olive sable]

Hey

[hard raptor]

silly belgian person

[sage crag]

accuracy game

[tender river]

hr broke ma p

[sage crag]

ye

he play with dim too

cheater

[rigid snow]

100% ui scale i do this

tiny

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

map curse

[hard raptor]

shit gets really blurry when i do that

[rigid snow]

also to me very unusual to not see two massive sidechain and drums groups

[tender river]

me more combo

[olive sable]

Biting inside off mouth is apparently an autism thing

I googled it

[sage crag]

me sleepy past bedtime

[olive sable]

Its nearly noon

[hard raptor]

yeh idk

[tender river]

me sick and not played for a month

[hard raptor]

for now this sounds alright to me

[sage crag]

aware

[rigid snow]

1
41

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

blame AR

easier hr

[olive sable]

🔺

[sage crag]

https://osu.ppy.sh/scores/5942685005

scary score

[olive sable]

#gaming

[sage crag]

[tender river]

this is

programming

not gaming

[rigid snow]

anything but programming

[tender river]

sam

[olive sable]

Cheerleaf

[hard raptor]

i added now

the ducking just sounds different.. but not really much better imo

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

ye i always mix into a clipper and the kick ducks to 0db

[hard raptor]

imma make new recording wiht it on

[rigid snow]

just a style thing

not fit every genre

[tender river]

ohisee https://timthompson.com/plum/

[hard raptor]

smells like strudel

[olive sable]

[hard raptor]

this should be with the sidechain

[rigid snow]

why did you take my words as a suggestion

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

all i said is i don't look at others' projects often

especially not in the chiller genres

[hard raptor]

nah i just wanted to try it out

[olive sable]

The sound be sounding out my phone speakers

[hard raptor]

your word were taken as more of an inspiration rather than feedback

[rigid snow]

very progressive this

[hard raptor]

i put these also in the sidechain group... it was an improvement

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

[hard raptor]

Now i only have to put a breakdown.. a second buildup a second drop a second breakdown and an outro

what if i just simply reverse the buildup lmao

[rigid snow]

10 minute song

[hard raptor]

would be my 4th one lmao

[rigid snow]

that's not a good thing methinks, i am trying to cut down on my song length

[olive sable]

You send a lot of WIP but i dont think ive ever seen the final releases

[rigid snow]

that's why i don't send mine

[hard raptor]

no i have sent a few

just not to spotify or soundcloud links

[rigid snow]

none of them become releases even though people have asked me to release way waay shittier stuff than i'm working on currently back when i was hanging in producer circles

[hard raptor]

This for example was the last final release version i sent

[rigid snow]

also a thing i struggle with is

[hard raptor]

this one as well

[rigid snow]

i get writers block, listen to what i have and get very much used or sometimes even annoyed, making myself devoid of feeling anything about it
even when i don't i listen to my stuff too much. i don't move fast enough to not get bored by the end

[sick owl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUrJVdF2me0

Holy grim

[rigid snow]

yeye it's over we are all going to die

[sick owl]

Does this make us fancy computers owners to technology what the boomers were to houses

[rigid snow]

etc. etc,

[rigid snow]

real estate did not jump to where it's at overnight

also, you kinda need to live somewhere, you don't necessarily need a crazy computer

for anything

[hard raptor]

actually

i added the breakdown and the second build drop breakdown sequence and an outro

with what i have now.. the intro is like a 3rd of the whole song

[rigid snow]

my point is demand for housing will always be high while demand for personal computing can drop

i don't know how it is elsewhere but where i live real estate for non living purposes is like 10x cheaper

because there's not a constant demand

ok maybe not 10x but a fuck ton less

[olive sable]

i missed out on this deal

Only 500 euro, that ram alone is 700

Its basicly the same pc as i have now except i have a 3090

[rigid snow]

500 euro for that is crazy

[olive sable]

I sold a pc with a 3060ti for 500 less than a year ago

[rigid snow]

look i don't know how 2ndhand markets function where you're at but i wouldn't have seen a listing like this in the first place because 1. it was sold in 2 minutes and 2. it's a scam anyway

[hard raptor]

i am happy with this result.. and it is still at a time scale that is acceptable within the genre

[rigid snow]

still 7 minutes

kinda works out tho

[olive sable]

This is from the college discord

Its real

[rigid snow]

is it a discord forum post

[olive sable]

Ye

[rigid snow]

that's crazy

[olive sable]

[hard raptor]

Ayo

idk how everything in my home is grounded

but i touch my radiator and my subwoofer hums louder

[olive sable]

Ddr5 sodium

[rigid snow]

the age of silicon is over

sodium is where it's at

[sage crag]

so-dimm

[rigid snow]

i would have never been able to tell kni

[olive sable]

Sam's Sodium Semiconductor

[sage crag]

ye that why

i said

because me genius

[olive sable]

Os 130 for soddim even a good deal?

These new prices confuse me

[sage crag]

dont buy RAM right now

the price will crash later

[rigid snow]

not listen to her

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

buy high sell low

[sage crag]

[hard raptor]

Buys RAM on your card more intensely

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

My laptop and pc are both ddr4 anyways

[rigid snow]

ram-backed stablecoin

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

invest in that for double the cringe

[olive sable]

"Stable"

I should get out of bed

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-clumsy-hurt-fell-off-bed-gif-12276485

[rigid snow]

bedrotting

[hard raptor]

Nvidia: Lowers consumer GPU production
AMD: 🙃

[rigid snow]

amd tupid

[olive sable]

Bed is so comfy

[rigid snow]

i said in 2021 in 2022 in 2023

they should make good ai gpu

[hard raptor]

nah

i no like AI

[olive sable]

They should make cheap gpu

[rigid snow]

intel is next door

[hard raptor]

besides.. Nvidia still sucks on linux

[rigid snow]

the fact of intel making cheap gpus would have killed 2015 me

[olive sable]

Apparently the problem is nvidia has kinda a monopoly so they can get big margins, and then there's tsmc who makes the chips also having most of the market getting big margins.
And then there's asml who just actually have a full monopoly as the only guys making the machines for the uv lithography

Asking 400mil for the newest machine

[rigid snow]

thing is there isnt a monopoly

it's just that one company is ahead in tech

so for high end stuff that's who they come to

[olive sable]

Intel apparently had a lot of shares of asml but they got cold feet and now its costing them billions

[hard raptor]

Maybe add this as a last finishing touch to make the drums sound like they're coming in a bit less aggressively

[rigid snow]

the mcu in your washing machine probably isn't made on asml hardware

[olive sable]

[hard raptor]

ASML MENTIONED?

[olive sable]

Brother your gov paid 7 billion to keep them in the netherlands

[rigid snow]

for that i really like adding reverb with a very short decay and automating the dry/wet

ye even in the one i have open

[olive sable]

[hard raptor]

ASML btw doesn't have a true monopoly.. it's just that no other company has successfully been able to recreate their tech

[rigid snow]

i already said that

[olive sable]

It may not be a literal monopoly, but its a monopoly in spirit

[hard raptor]

(They had help from Phillips tho)

[olive sable]

For the high end stuff there's no other option of manufacturer

Philips has done a fuckton of different stuff

[hard raptor]

Also.. my gov didn't do that.. it was the murican gov that did that

[hard raptor]

yeah... most physical media formats they did in collaboration with sony

that is one example

[olive sable]

Maybe not 7 billion. It was 2 billion apparently

[hard raptor]

the money came from murica

[olive sable]

Ye. I went to the philips museum bout 8 months ago or so

Was pretty interesting

[tender river]

got a 26 move solve

in game of 15

[olive sable]

How?

[tender river]

god rng

1 2 3 15
5 0 8 12
9 7 4 11
13 6 10 14

[olive sable]

Thats rng cheating

[tender river]

still require skill

[olive sable]

How did you move the 4 in place?
2 down and 3 left to make room for a a chain thingy right?

[tender river]

too slow imo but i havent properly checked

yee thats gonna be 28

though it does result in a better position at the very end

[hard raptor]

probably the most subtle use of this plugin ever

[tender river]

beginning of solution is
up up left left down down down right up up left down right down left up right right up up left down
then my visualization skills fall off

[tender river]

its one in 72.5k games (and only with perfect execution)

not cheating

[rigid snow]

sosig for style points

[tender river]

hopefully i will now finally stop trying and wont ever beat this score

[rigid snow]

you should go open a csgo case right now

[hard raptor]

no it is actually doing way more than it seems

[rigid snow]

bet your rent on your favorite sports team

[rigid snow]

and put the food money on red

[sage crag]

buket

[hard raptor]

This should be the correct file..
the finished version

[fierce light]

stellaris? EVE?

[rigid snow]

78mb

[hard raptor]

welp... it's a wav file.. what you expect?

[rigid snow]

not 7 minutes

[fierce light]

remix this https://soundcloud.com/ccpgames/2017-yc119-5-theme-the-luminous-eye?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

[hard raptor]

nahhh

unless you can send a project file my way that recreated the whole thing... but even then.. i am not sure if i can do anything meaningful with it

[fierce light]

oh so you can't just work on any file?

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

silly

that not how remix

[hard raptor]

I mean true

But there are sounds in there that i don't know how to recreate that i really wanna use

[hard raptor]

Also.. is 78mb for an almost 8 minute long wav file a good thing or a bad thing?

[rigid snow]

it doesn't matter

[hard raptor]

Okay

[rigid snow]

4 minutes of 48k 24bit is around 70

which is what i render at

which i probably shouldn't render at considering how i mix

oops master

[hard raptor]

The wav file is at 44100 kHz at 16 bit

[rigid snow]

ye that's where all of my problems come from. fucking hell

[hard raptor]

It's still way higher than what the highest quality setting on most streaming platforms will get you

[rigid snow]

i just have to render at 44.1

[hard raptor]

It was literally the default setting for me lol

[rigid snow]

apple music with their 192k 24bit or whatever

[hard raptor]

I only use spotify and occasionally youtube music personally

[rigid snow]

i like to work at 48k because it leaves me some nice extra high frequencies if i need to pitch something down

i used to have everything set to 96k but that hammered my cpu

WHY do i 48k

nightmare

nightmare

WHAT THE FUCK

I SWITCHED TO 44.1 EVERYTHIGN SOUNDS DIFFERENT

NOOOO

this project is cursed to be 48k

[olive sable]

[olive sable]

My storage space capacity has increased with 800%

[rotund burrow]

Is it possible to make a subroutine a subroutine

[fierce light]

make intentionally crushed audio music to save storage and call it a genre

oh wait thats just black metal

[rigid snow]

like bitcrushed or compressed

[nocturne olive]

I would certainly like some of those

[rigid wolf]

yeah lemme just steal that

tf

16 tb

[sage crag]

[warm river]

guys can someone congrats me? i bricked my whole artix and i need reinstall it

[sage crag]

ok

[olive sable]

Congrats on bricking artix?

[olive sable]

Then buy some i guess

Its €237 per drive

[nocturne olive]

Pricy

Also I'd need more space for drives so I'd need a whole other PC to carry them

[olive sable]

i have 6 sata ports

[nocturne olive]

It's not about SATA ports I have 8 of those, it's about space for the drive physically

[olive sable]

ah

for that i have 2 bays in the bottom of the case

and then they have holes for 3D printed brackets under the gpu space

[nocturne olive]

I have 3 drive bays and they're all filled

[trim valve]

do not tempt me with projects that I should only do when I have stable income

[olive sable]

Not me putting these 2 drives in the same machine

i need to put the 2nd sata power cable in psu

This litle operation is gonna cost me half an hour

[quick condor]

I got Seagate factory referbed drives once. One was doa, two failed 6 months later and the last two I couldn't trust. These were 4tb 10mm 2.5in drives

WD DC helioseal are the only high capacity drives I touch

[hard raptor]

Yeah... i noticed myself that if you mess with the sample rate mid project, your delays and reverbs and chorusus and everything get messed up until you put the sample rate back to what it was before you changed it mid project

Basically the decay and feedback timings and ammounts get fricked

I tested it out with @fast pagoda a while ago

Wait imma try to see if i can find the files

i found them

they are converted to MP3 after the fact tho because at the time i didn't have nitro

this one was rendered at ableton's default 44.100 kHz

and this one was at 192000

that's literally the only difference.. and still all the timings got fricked

we even whipped out the spectrograms

[quick condor]

I'd have to say the more time I spend on my project, the more I am actually glad that Vedal hasn't really shared much about the specifics of neuro and evil's backend.

It's fun to speculate but I don't think I'd have the same drive if it wasn't something I had to figure out myself.

[maiden geyser]

why are there so many people in https://discord.com/channels/574720535888396288/1067400152698077194 ?

[quick condor]

It's interesting that they seem to struggle with logic puzzles especially when there is a bit of randomness to them (like with buckshot roulette) but also seem to like doing them. I've noticed a similar behavior.

[sage crag]

wplace

canvas

[olive sable]

how do you even test for that?

[quick condor]

I didn't, I ran them in raid so when a drive failed I swapped in a spare

[olive sable]

Ye but how do you even test for that?

[quick condor]

Test for failure? The raid controller monitors drive health and flags drives at risk for failure

[rough bloom]

check S.M.A.R.T. values and report I/O errors
RAID controller should be able to do both I think

[silent cloak]

people in here like just going in VC and being muted for some reason

i think they are all bots secretly

dead internet theory

[maiden geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[obsidian mantle]

is it better to have one good hdd
or two bad hdds with raid

bad/good i mean cheap/expensive

[silent cloak]

why use raid though

over like zfs

[rough bloom]

two HDDs are pretty much always going to be more expensive than one HDD

if you use RAID 1 then you don't have to care about the quality of the individual drive quite as much, but you're still paying pretty much twice what you'd pay for a single drive

[obsidian mantle]

yeah thats what im asking

if its somewhat the same in price

what is better

[quick condor]

Depends. I use what makes sense for the situation. I use hw raid, zfs and ceph

[rough bloom]

it's not somewhat the same in price though, assuming you want the same capacity
it's twice as expensive

unless you use RAID 0 but just don't

[sage crag]

wrr

[silent cloak]

are HDD prices as bad as SSD prices right now?

[sage crag]

shouldnt be based on availability

[quick condor]

You can tolerate unknown drive health better with multiple drivers than a single drive. I mostly run surplus dell enterprise drives so they are cheap but have unknown health

[sage crag]

but i wouldnt be surprised if manufacturers decided to hike the price anyway to take advantage

[olive sable]

I dont have a raid controller

[quick condor]

You can still read smart data

[rough bloom]

ye if you don't have a hardware RAID controller then you can just access the drives directly

[quick condor]

I'm glad I can mix and match pass through on my controllers (h740p)

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/my-jolly-reaction-jolly-my-honest-reaction-gif-5490890317762380451

[olive sable]

im on windows now

my pc is so loud

hmm

its not finding the drives

sata cables came loose, they're found now

[nocturne olive]

Why on Windows? It can only format to bad filesystems

You should totally format to a better filesystem

[olive sable]

erm

what is bad about NTFS?

[sage crag]

uncalled for ntfs hate

[olive sable]

fat32 sure its not that up-to-date. but ntfs is fine

[nocturne olive]

Well NTFS doesn't work as well with Linux as something like EXT4

[olive sable]

i have had absolutely no problems with ntfs on linux at all

[sage crag]

ntfs performance is pretty bad on linux, that's not ntfs' fault though

that's just the drivers fault

[nocturne olive]

Well I guess

[sage crag]

ntfs3 is supposed to be fast

[nocturne olive]

But either way if it's meant as a mainly Linux accessed drive shouldn't use NTFS

[sage crag]

ntfs-3g is pretty bad

[olive sable]

i wonder what my linux drive's format even is

[sage crag]

i think that's a licensing issue though

[nocturne olive]

You can figure it out somewhere for sure

[sage crag]

cachyos? probably btrfs

btrfs is the default for cachyos

good fs

[nocturne olive]

I should try btrfs some day

I heard it has compression or something

[rough bloom]

ye NTFS Linux drivers are just bad
there aren't really any good options that work well with both Windows and Linux though

[sage crag]

compression is not the reason to use btrfs

[nocturne olive]

Sounds like that'd be peak for my 2TB VoD archive drive

[sage crag]

if you need compression, there are other options as well

[trim valve]

that doesn't sound like it'd compress well

[rough bloom]

yeah, it probably won't compress video at all

[nocturne olive]

Guess that drive shall stay EXT4 then

[sage crag]

media formats tend to not compress very well, no

btrfs has CoW which pairs nicely with compression for disk space savings, but the answer is that if you need more disk space, disk space should be the cheapest () expansion you can make

[young plover]

lsblk -f

[nocturne olive]

That's this drive

[nocturne olive]

Would help if I had any drive bays free

[sage crag]

either way, btrfs compression is just standard zstd, lzo, etc

[nocturne olive]

Also a better stable source of money would help

[olive sable]

i think this might have been reset? power on count and hours woudl indicate that

[sage crag]

you wont get much benefit out of compressing media files in that way

[nocturne olive]

I wonder what the CrystalDiskInfo equivalent for Linux systems is

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

i would guess just having an image as the bg of your terminal

[sage crag]

qdiskinfo maybe

or gsmartcontrol

[nocturne olive]

Not what I meant

I want a tool to see drive SMART data

[nocturne olive]

Oh wait I just remembered I already have that

[olive sable]

windows with crystaldiskinfo is my tool to see smart data

[nocturne olive]

My Windows is dead, so

[olive sable]

so, how do i know if the drive is good now?

[rough bloom]

stats might be reset but you can run a self-test if you want

should be a button for that somewhere

also it may take a while depending on the type of test

[nocturne olive]

So apparently my 4TB NVMe and 8TB SATA SMART data can't be read by GSmartControl

[olive sable]

[rough bloom]

there's also badblocks but I don't think that's really used anymore
S.M.A.R.T. data good enough

[nocturne olive]

Any clue as to why this could be?

[olive sable]

apparently crystaldiskinfo cant do such a test. i need to use a different program

Run an Extended S.M.A.R.T. Self-Test, up to 48 hours for a 2TB drive this is 16TB. i aint waiting 16 days

[rough bloom]

also it may take a while depending on the type of test

there should be a quick test too if you don't want to wait

[nocturne olive]

Apparently my 8TB HDDs are sitting around 50 C

[rough bloom]

but obviously it's much less reliable
in the end checking the whole drive just takes time

[olive sable]

no heatsink?

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

[nocturne olive]

They're HDDs

[olive sable]

fair enough

[nocturne olive]

So all 3 of my HDDs are sitting around 50 C

I wonder where that heat is coming from

My AIO?

[olive sable]

i think its good

speed dropping mus tbe cuz it started the test on the outside?

[nocturne olive]

Yeah HDD read speed is based on where on the drive you're reading from

The outside spins faster

[olive sable]

ye

[olive sable]

the reads are near perfect but the writes are a bit worse

the center of the drive had 10 smaples where it needed 250ms

for some reason the edge is better

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/my-jolly-reaction-jolly-my-honest-reaction-gif-5490890317762380451

[olive sable]

i think the drive is good for now but ill test again in a week or so

[sage crag]

nur book

[faint sandal]

[sage crag]

[rough bloom]

[sage crag]

level83

[maiden geyser]

it would be really unfunny if it happened fourice

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-the-voices-jolly-christmas-gif-5774532700081404887

[maiden geyser]

oh flip, i've betrayed my unsub bros

[warped narwhal]

92 now

[maiden geyser]

95 is crazy

[maiden geyser]

100 is insane

[rigid snow]

fuck i switched to ff

it's already so bad

nothing works

0.2 fps

[sage crag]

why is everyone reporting lag

im just fine

[maiden geyser]

obvious skill issue

[rigid snow]

ye not lag = skill issue

[sage crag]

i dont even have a gpu

my browser still 240fps

minyanstare

[warped narwhal]

whoops, memory leak

[rigid snow]

3 million dom updates a second

[sage crag]

im using only 13gb

[warped narwhal]

it's not stopping

[rigid snow]

only 3gb for me

somehow

no leaks

[warped narwhal]

WTF?

[obsidian mantle]

yeah firefox doesnt feel very well

[young plover]

Firefox moment
Moved to Vivaldi weeks ago because Firefox can't even handle Twitch normally

[rigid snow]

vivaldi could be so good if they just locked in

[obsidian mantle]

slightly feeling bad i cant even buy 1 sub for myself cause no available paying methods

[rigid snow]

[obsidian mantle]

or are there any

[rigid snow]

there is

[obsidian mantle]

i dont have any foregn bank acc

[young plover]

Still using 1.6 cores worth of CPU rn

[rigid snow]

no

[nocturne olive]

Mine is sitting at a cool 6GB

[young plover]

3.2 GB for me

[obsidian mantle]

[rough bloom]

same, 3-4 G
but I use FFZ not 7TV

[rigid snow]

click other methods

oh my god nn is crazy

[maiden geyser]

neuro's just in awe rn

[rigid snow]

she's not lagging this time

[warped narwhal]

I wonder if it is better cpu or better code

probably a mix of both cause I remember being there last time and it was super laggy

[maiden geyser]

oh my God they hit 111

it's lagging for me now

[rigid snow]

my shit is so cooked

i literally can't watch

[warm river]

for next stream i will buy 16 cores cpu

so i wont lag

[warped narwhal]

it's so fucked but I'm somewhat able to view

[maiden geyser]

lvl120 would be mind blowing

[warped narwhal]

we are at 333 hours for the subathon lmao

see you in two weeks

[obsidian mantle]

holy shit it actually worked

im finally subbed

gifted 10 its cheap here

[rigid snow]

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN

[obsidian mantle]

i thought its all blocked for good

[rigid snow]

you could have just opened the stream for one second

and gotten gifted

[obsidian mantle]

it doesnt give you gifted if you watch every stream

they use system to lure new people and shit

[rigid snow]

it literally gifts to people who aren't even following at this point

that's what happened last year

[warped narwhal]

I can't wait for someone to run the numbers and find out how many subscriptions actually got gifted

[maiden geyser]

does it stack

[rigid snow]

no

or what do you mean

[rigid snow]

"lmao I got a gifted sub from the hype train streamer too" from a big streamers offline chat

[amber fractal]

Oh frick I need to open steam

[foggy tundra]

Hello everyone

[rigid snow]

[obsidian mantle]

wait it doesnt show my gifteds

anywhere

[foggy tundra]

Recently found out about this

[obsidian mantle]

i got scammed?

[rough bloom]

nah I saw your gift subs

[obsidian mantle]

oh nvm it was pending

[amber fractal]

I still missed the hype train record again

[obsidian mantle]

holy shit it took like 5-10 min for it to count

finally

[foggy tundra]

Programming

[rigid snow]

yuh uh

[glad path]

at least 100k

[foggy tundra]

Im learning for now

[young plover]

Yeah I think we were just under 33k before the train started

[maiden geyser]

It's Actually Happening

[quick condor]

Next stream: Vedal fixes twitch spaghetti code

[foggy tundra]

What is that

I have no clue what is all the hype about
I don’t watch twitch

[quick condor]

OK yah if he is using faster whisper thats 20 opus streams. I think mine is cappped at 5 as well using an a4000 for faster-whisper

[warped narwhal]

Who has the subathon goals? what is after the 150k

[young plover]

150k was a hidden goal already

He probably doesn't have another

[amber fractal]

200k goal when

[quick condor]

say it back for 250k XD

[maiden geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/truck-gif-6625735939947879673

[amber fractal]

Hype train lasts 5 minutes and resets on each tier, The goal scales from 10 to 1000s of subs worth. This is the world record (and the second time we have done it)

[silent ether]

Is anyone else not seeing your sub gift badge and the hype train thing isn’t showing as unlocked? I fear it’s because I did it on my phone, but could just be Twitch lagging

[rigid snow]

twitch lagging for sure, same for me

[silent ether]

Ok, thanks, good to know it’s not just me

[foggy tundra]

Wow
Impressive

[silent ether]

We’re totally getting the Vedal and Evil Duet!

[glad path]

vc has so many ppl

this is normal right?

[rigid snow]

(ru swarm)

[foggy tundra]

ru

[glad path]

122???

[warm river]

neuro is best thing to watch while compiling kernel

[foggy tundra]

[maiden geyser]

mom i'm on the tv

[olive stag]

Seeing the amount of money moved in this hype train makes me question my regular day job

[warm river]

i don't have even a job lol

[foggy tundra]

Im looking for a job

[faint hazel]

Smallest cog in the system is just as important as the largest one

[foggy tundra]

Job market is hell

[warm river]

my waterfox froze while loading all people in vc

[olive stag]

This is some S Tier copium, thank you

[warm river]

it might be since i'm fucking using all my cpu cores while compiling kernel

[silent ether]

Damn even Grok is subbing to Neuro

[warm river]

how the fuck neurosama stream is taking more cpu than kernel compilation

[warped narwhal]

compile with make -l $(nproc) so that it will take your load average into account so your PC doesn't get overloaded

[warm river]

i'm doing it

i use all my cores

[maiden geyser]

it's just redistribution

[silent ether]

My phone was literally so freaking hot when I was trying to watch the stream on it lmao

[warm river]

my pc begs for help

ram and gpu is chilling tho

ram usage might be since i did put kernel src into tmpfs

because my main nvme is slow asf

[dry charm]

It crashed my steam deck

[silent ether]

I’m using like 15% what CPU do you have?

What browser are you watching on?

[warm river]

12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400F, but like i said i'm compiling kernel and watching stream

[silent ether]

Oh true

[quick condor]

Could be worse

[silent ether]

Yeah compiling alone could take 100%

[young plover]

still chillin
2 cores

[warm river]

gentoo?

[reef sail]

Zen is chilling with the stream

[quick condor]

flash attention

[warm river]

i use waterfox and stream takes like 512M-1G of ram for me

720p

[reef sail]

2 gigs on 1080p for me

[silent ether]

Damn I’m using like 3 or 4GB

[maiden geyser]

it's over at lvl 123, 99%

[sage crag]

evil duet coming when

[silent ether]

My whole OS is using 11GB

[amber fractal]

they were so close to 124

[quick condor]

it would of been worse if I used the right server (closer to 700gb of ram)

[silent ether]

Were you guys able to claim your emote? I wasn’t

[quick condor]

got mine

[warm river]

my average ram usage is 4-16 from 32 gb of ram

artix, dinit and kde

[silent ether]

Damn, maybe I need to contact Twitch support

[warped narwhal]

he is #1 in just chatting rn

[autumn hollow]

hello programmers
i am looking to create a servo skull project
and i have the parts down all on a list
and connect it to a NAS and then use HA home assistant
to make it like an alexa type of servo skull
any advice?

[warm river]

why half of these streams are ep files streams

[young plover]

40k is probably top on the whole site?

[autumn hollow]

they are politics streamers politics is just chatting

[warped narwhal]

yup, top on the entire site

[patent shard]

I like it this way better, lol

[warped narwhal]

wait nvm I'm dum

[nocturne olive]

No way my PC survived the hype train without crashing
Now that if anything is a stress-test

[warped narwhal]

#3 on the whole site

[warm river]

idk why but i keep seeing russian streamers on twitch even tho i never watched one

[hollow estuary]

I've got different videos listed. Must be some algorithm funkiness.

[warm river]

like my homepage is filled with russian stuff 24/7 even tho i'm in poland and i watch only english speaking stuff

[warped narwhal]

check the sort by

I had it on recommended first

[rigid snow]

i am in russia and i have 0 russian stuff on my homepage

make sense

[warm river]

i wonder why cyberpunk is so popular rn

[hollow estuary]

Yeah I have some of those you have but no Vedal. He's definitely got more viewers than these though! I can't share images here or I'd show. x)

[warm river]

bro what

[rigid snow]

[maiden geyser]

his greed will be his downfall💔

[rigid snow]

nooooooooo i think recognize them nooooooo

fuck

[warm river]

i said today that vedal fell off (few hours ago) and i might was wrong 😭

[rigid snow]

why would you say that what

[foggy tundra]

[warm river]

because timer was low

[rigid snow]

"low"

it's been 4 days

[flint dome]

gpu cluster tower rack for the twins new subgoal spread the word everyone

[rigid snow]

[flint dome]

lets get this petitioned as a new subgoal y'all

[warm river]

i mean it was joke, but ig twitch said something else lol

[foggy tundra]

I think ram prices went up because of vedal

[rigid snow]

vedal can now afford 10 more gb of ram for neuro

[flint dome]

every extra gpu for the twins brings us closer to world peace

[warm river]

256 gb of ram should be enough

[foggy tundra]

how big is vedal data center

[rigid snow]

2 square ft

[quick condor]

That context reset was brutal

[foggy tundra]

I need to learn game development

[nocturne olive]

From scratch or in some engine?

I recommend Godot especially to begin with

[sage crag]

wrr

[rigid snow]

i recommend designing own processor, own isa, own gpu,

[foggy tundra]

Unity probably

[nocturne olive]

Eh

[foggy tundra]

I know c#

It’ll be better

[nocturne olive]

Godot can C#

[foggy tundra]

meh

Haven’t even seen decent games made in godot

[rigid snow]

[nocturne olive]

Well there's Buckshot roulette

[rigid snow]

ye that was my first thought as well

[foggy tundra]

I mean graphics looks bad

[nocturne olive]

Who cares about graphics if you want graphics you go UE5

[foggy tundra]

I don’t like unreal engine

[foggy tundra]

Not realistic graphics

Just good

[nocturne olive]

Well then simply make good graphics

[foggy tundra]

Realistic ≠ good

[nocturne olive]

It's about the dev, not engine

[foggy tundra]

unity has better tools imo

and possibilities

[nocturne olive]

Depends

Vedal's issues are a good example of why you don't use Unity

Also Unity is super bloated

Godot fits an entire game easily within a couple hundred MB while Unity is pretty likely to hit GBs for a very small game

[foggy tundra]

What

[maiden geyser]

anti-unity sentiment in #programming is diabolical

[foggy tundra]

Idk about that
There are a lot of unity games which aren’t that bloated

[nocturne olive]

Audio stutters, memory leaks, crashes, all that kinda stuff

[foggy tundra]

It’s just the engine itself

[rigid snow]

most hated engine here is by far ue

[glass flower]

what would you classify as good graphics? there are a bunch of godot games that you might not realize is godot

[foggy tundra]

Like smooth 3d graphics with movement

[foggy tundra]

Need some examples to see what can be done

[amber fractal]

Looks over at Sam who is doing custom engine

[rigid snow]

want good movement just copy source

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/my-jolly-reaction-jolly-my-honest-reaction-gif-5490890317762380451

[glass flower]

what about unrailed 2?

does that count

[sage crag]

good graphics

hl1

halo ce

[nocturne olive]

Well there is that

[sage crag]

doom 1993

[rigid snow]

it's not tied to the engine, in fact when i wanted to surf or bhop before momentum mod became public i reached for roblox games

because it's just easier than booting up cs:s or some shit

and then searching for a server

[glass flower]

also you can use steamdb to find all godot games and filter by 3d: https://steamdb.info/tech/Engine/Godot/?sort=followers_desc&tagid=4191

[rigid snow]

point im trying to make is the engine doesn't matter almost at all if it's good enough, for godot maybe the 3d pipeline sucks for photorealism but that's about it as far as its limitations go

[foggy tundra]

Not blocky stuff

[rigid snow]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeG_dAglpVo6EpaO9A1nkwJZOwrfiLdQ8 ?

[warped narwhal]

I have to use an UE SDK for making mods for a game and OMG it makes me want to tear my eyeballs out

[sick owl]

Looking at the chatgpt recap for me lmao

Sounds like ChatGPT alright

[foggy tundra]

There are some good stuff but not what I’m looking for

Either that games are minimalistic/2D
Or
Have clanky movement

[sick owl]

Fair play

[rigid snow]

not what I’m looking for
then make what you're looking for

[foggy tundra]

https://youtu.be/LlgHCeLV92Y?si=l2whj_MH3uOBpSz3

[foggy tundra]

my goal would be making games not making the platform to make games

[glad path]

god fucking damn

[rigid snow]

ye i don't even know how to respond

[glad path]

i don't like python THAT much

[foggy tundra]

“import reality”

[glad path]

time travel step 1:
import future

i genuinely dont like python that much

i use it because I know it well but I have been tryna get better at c++

[foggy tundra]

Im learning c# backend development rn

I started from c++ though

[sick owl]

The vibe coding award ↓

[warm river]

linux

[glad path]

i dont vibe cofe

thats the thing