programming

[opaque sigil]

[tender river]

ye example

[sly pewter]

New lol

[tender river]

me put this on same line

[sly pewter]

Aww 🤩🥰

[tender river]

because

it just one operation

swap

[sly pewter]

Can you help

Neural

[tender river]

neural

[sly pewter]

But

Neuro AK nny 🎵

[glad path]

nny?

[sly pewter]

Neuro ask with music

Soon

[tender river]

[sly pewter]

Prismatic prismatic account

Neuro asked

[opaque sigil]

Aggressive inlining I see

[tender river]

me compiler

[sly pewter]

I am now for neuro
It did hurt me
Neuro did ask..

[tender river]

sorry i cant understand you try machine translation if english isnt your first language

[sly pewter]

Me sandwich and saan.. I'd love the songs and the beasts

[tender river]

[sly pewter]

As a sandman
I'd love to bee
.

Neuros beef.. mand her

Shi love her soo much

It's fine with what you do

[scenic depot]

Neuro is so cute

[glad path]

yes that is definitely neuro

also this is #programming….

[scenic depot]

I know

[scenic depot]

OH WAAAIT

Wrong picture

[glad path]

skynet 💀

[scenic depot]

How sharp is C#

[silent cloak]

very

Been an avid C# user since around 2015

[rigid snow]

what is going on here

d flat

[glad path]

b

b flat actually

b flat better

[scenic depot]

I c
-# haha get it because C sounds like "see" haha- okay I'll get out :c

HOLY

LATENCY

[rigid snow]

♭

[scenic depot]

this was supposed to send way earlier :c

[glad path]

neuro neuro oo ee oo

im thinking neur-

[glad path]

neur

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

goodmorning

[opaque sigil]

Morning

[olive sable]

[jagged turtle]

got any pixels?

[olive sable]

here at sam.dev we have a wide assortment of different pixels for sale

for only 5 neuros per pixel

⬛ 🟦 🟫 🟩 🟧 🟪 🟥 ⬜ 🟨

thats brown? i thought it was red

[jagged turtle]

I'll take 2

[wanton island]

I’ll take -1

🟪

[olive sable]

we dont do takebacksies

[jagged turtle]

no refund?

[olive sable]

this is a pyramid scheme

no refunds

🔺

any scheme i do is a pyramid scheme

its my branding

[jagged turtle]

so uh

is that GPU rendering repo thingy maintained at all

[olive sable]

not the main branch. and the useful stuff branch is jsut what im currently workign on in the engine

but im 3Dmodelling a lot lately so even that isnt updated

🔺 stuff has passed mostly, now its jsut my brand

[olive sable]

what if i have 1 ssd for linux, and 1 ssd for windows, but i partition the windows drive to have windows on a separate partition on the drive?
cuz i know people say to put linux and windows on separate drives, but that should be fine no?

[fierce light]

why not just VM the windows

[south whale]

when i will get my gpro x080 and new mobo i will try linux

mint or zorin are the most user friendly ones right

[olive sable]

cuz i have work to do on windows

photoshop and visual studio

i want that on something i can trust to be mostly stable, as stable as i can expect form windows at least

[south whale]

windows should be installed first

then linux

iirc

[olive sable]

i dont think if its on separate drives it would matter

idk

[south whale]

well if on separate drives

then yeah it doesnt really matter

[young plover]

Shouln't matter yeah

[south whale]

idrk

[fierce light]

Or you can run WSL direcltly in windows

only if you want a specific distro you need to tinker

cos the default is a guiless ubuntu

[olive sable]

i have bought a 990pro to be in my mobos main slot,a nd a sn7100 for the secondary slot.
linux oes on the main slot, and i want to contain windows in as litle space as possible in the secondary drive while using the rest of that drive for gewneral storage

[olive sable]

nah. i main linux

[fierce light]

then just VM the windows. Unless any of your win apps really hate being run in a VM

[olive sable]

the whole point is separating windows from linux

i don't think a windows vm can use gpu accel? i do need that desperatly

[opaque sigil]

It can but you have to give it a whole gpu

It's also incredibly finicky

[rigid snow]

it doesn’t matter even on one drive. only thing it will affect is if the bootloader setup process picks up windows automatically and if you install linux first you may want to rerun that so it picks up the windows bootloader and adds an entry for it. or add it manually
there shouldn’t even be issues with the partition layout
people say that windows and linux on one drive cause problems but in my 8 ish years of dualbooting desktop linux (windows 10 already a thing) is windows sometimes, very rarely nukes the efi boot record for your linux bootloader if it’s in the same efi partition as the windows one. annoying but not exactly the end of the world

[olive sable]

so in theory it would be faster to and possible to put both windows and linux on the main ssd?

[rigid snow]

i have always done it like that

[olive sable]

so in theory i allocate like 30gb for windows, and 30gb for linux. then i can make both use the other partitions for storage?

[opaque sigil]

Don't

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

Windows is very possessive when it comes to partitions

It will freak tf out

[olive sable]

so then what do i do?

keep the stuff windows stores in a seperate partition?

[fierce light]

why does it need to be on the same disk anyway

[opaque sigil]

ideally yeah

[rigid snow]

many reasons
like you know
a laptop

for example

[olive sable]

it doenst, but the main drive has dram so it would be faster

990 pro 2tb main, sn7100 2tb secondary

[rigid snow]

look i’m not suggesting anything but i have admittedly too many drives and i still have linux and windows on the same 2tb drive

[olive sable]

i will never be using the a full terabyte for windows let alone 2. so i wanted the space available for other things

[rigid snow]

make the windows partition like 300gb, that should be plenty enough

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

if it’s not your main system that is

[olive sable]

this is my main system

[rigid snow]

i mean windows

[olive sable]

oh

[rigid snow]

operating system

[olive sable]

ye im mainly on arch

[opaque sigil]

If you're worried it's not enough leave some empty space after the windows partition

[olive sable]

i just need windows for Photoshop, visual studio, and potentially for VR since my linux is still glitchy

but steam games should be able to get installed on different partitions so that should be good

[rigid snow]

visual studio takes up a fuck ton tho … maybe 300gb is too optimistic

[opaque sigil]

There is an easy solution here though

[rigid snow]

with the 10 toolchains and sdks you’ll need

[olive sable]

it cant actually use 300gb?

i thought it only used like 80gb with my sdks and toolkits and such

[rigid snow]

not 300 no

[opaque sigil]

"only" 80

[olive sable]

compared to 300, yes only 80

[rigid snow]

ikr

[opaque sigil]

Does that include qt

I don't remember if that's included in vs

[olive sable]

i have no clue

i need C#, C++, and some other small things iirc

[rigid snow]

i don’t think it is.. microsoft has like 10 competing technologies to qt

[opaque sigil]

the whole qt stack is like 40gb

[olive sable]

you should allocate at least 250 GB to your system partition, with 500 GB being the recommended "comfortable" sweet spot.
bwaa

why windows so big

[opaque sigil]

huh

Where's that from

[olive sable]

gemini

[opaque sigil]

Windows is like 30gb

Which in itself is crazy but what can you do ig

[olive sable]

a real-world installation with updates, system restore points, and hibernation files typically occupies 80–100 GB over time.

surely i can nuke hibernation

[fierce light]

ge the LTSC debloated isos

get*

[olive sable]

i was planning on tiny 11 i guess

[young plover]

myeah 512 is the minimum I would use for a Windows boot drive

[fierce light]

if you care about size

my win10 is ona 250gig ssd

ez

[young plover]

Yeah you don't want hiberfile on a small drive

[fierce light]

but depending on what you do you might want to keep XXGB for pagefile

[opaque sigil]

Especially with your 64(?)G of ram

[olive sable]

ye

[young plover]

My work computer has 128 GB of RAM and a 512 GB boot drive. Took me second to figure out where the space went.

[olive sable]

surely i can disable hibernation

[opaque sigil]

You can indeed rip it out

One thing I miss from windows is how fast the system goes into hibernation

It takes like a minute on linux (on my rather crowded pc)

[young plover]

I used to use hibernation on my PC just to prevent my mouse from waking it up. After fixing that I just use normal sleep

[opaque sigil]

My pc doesn't post half the time after waking it so it's kind of a requirement for me

[jagged turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwB3FmbcC88 oh no

[patent shard]

yeah, I watched it already
can't believe another video finally came

[jagged turtle]

1 year after is crazy

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

phosphates

nitrates

[olive sable]

nutrients

NO₃⁻ and PO₄³⁻

im so glad i dont have to do chemistry anymore

[jovial remnant]

Would anyone here be able to recommend whether 2160p is worth it over 1440p at 27"?

[olive sable]

it is more than doubl the amount of pixels

in terms of gaming higher refresh-rate is a lot more noticeable. but for productivity applications you can fit a lot more text on the same screen real-estate
a lot sharper too

[jovial remnant]

yeah, tho I see people saying that it's not that much of a noticeable upgrade unless you go with larger screen

but you also have other people saying that is noticeable

[olive sable]

i think on 27 inch, 1440p you can still vaguely see the pixels, but 4K is already starting to reach the point where you cant

depends on how far you sit tho

[sage crag]

1440p is fine for most people, but there is a noticeable difference between that and 2160p

[jovial remnant]

I guess kinda close, so 4k might be better. Either way both will be an upgrade over current 1080

[sage crag]

personally though, id not consider it my first priority

[olive sable]

i think it might be a good idea to go to a store and see the difference for yourself

[sage crag]

my first priority for gaming would be refresh rate, and then if its OLED or not

[olive sable]

ye

[sage crag]

OLED is so much better for motion clarity than LCD

[olive sable]

you can get lcds that get close, but oled is near perfect

[sage crag]

response time is technically separate to refresh rate, but you wont notice a difference

[jovial remnant]

absolutely true, but at the same time eh, no proper electronics shop nearby

[sage crag]

oled's contrast is a godsend too

the ability to turn off pixels means you can actually use the display at night

without being blinded

[olive sable]

i odnt have too much difficulty with that, but i have variable backlight and stuff

[sage crag]

sometimes lcd displays will have multiple dimming zones but it usually sucks compared to oled even then

[jovial remnant]

yeah, oled looks great tho I barely game so idk if the insane price jump over isp is worth

[olive sable]

if its not for gaming then 4K is a bit more worth it

more stuff can fit on the screen

[sage crag]

if you dont care about clarity and colour depth, then lcd is usually fine, but i'd say i'd rather have a good 1080p oled over a 2160p lcd, having used both

mostly depends on your preference unfortunately

[olive sable]

idk about 1080p oled, i think 1080p is jsut not worth it for me generally.

[jovial remnant]

kinda want an oled, tho I don't need one any time soon and I'm already used to isp. And if I'd buy one I would probably go for a 4k one. But at this point the price jump is like 2x-3x from original isp that I was considering, so better for a future consideration

tho yeah, thanks for input, helped in making the choice

[jagged turtle]

me when the language server wants to mess with me

(it's still not gone yet)

[faint sandal]

fals

e

[jagged turtle]

lmao

at least it's not super critical, like, accidentally putting in links that direct to a 404 3 times in a row

[true hemlock]

i just had my biggest aura gain

by pulling out my briefcase pc in front of the customs security

security was pretty understanding too

[olive sable]

[true hemlock]

mf even joked i could launch a missile with it

[ivory plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/cod-missile-air-strike-cod-air-strike-air-strike-meme-call-of-duty-gif-16636986599218531111

[hard raptor]

this made me think of a certain Bigroom song

[olive sable]

lots of buttons

[nocturne olive]

SV2 Teto is certainly different from any Teto I've ever heard

[nocturne olive]

I pray looser RAM timings make my PC stable

[maiden geyser]

the slop thickens

[sage crag]

@tender river

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

honeycomb

[olive sable]

warburtons fruit loaf with cinnamon and raisin

[sage crag]

its christmas

[olive sable]

is it?

no, christmass is in 3 days

[sage crag]

christmas is after halloween and before the new year

[olive sable]

that does check out

except that all 3 of those are exact dates

so not every day inbetween is christmas

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

[true hemlock]

the shit that i do at hotels

[olive sable]

drink water, eat candy

[amber fractal]

That's my average hotel getup

[bleak totem]

please recommend a cheap and interesting game

[trim valve]

what sorta stuff do you usually play?

[warped narwhal]

5D chess with multiverse time travel

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1349230/5D_Chess_With_Multiverse_Time_Travel/

Steam

5D Chess With Multiverse Time Travel

What is it?5D Chess With Multiverse Time Travel the first ever chess variant with spatial, temporal, and parallel dimensions. It's the first ever chess variant with multiverse time travel!

Features

• Sharpen your tactics by solving a collection of multiverse chess puzzles.
  • Practice against four different AI personalities, each with different stre…

Price

$5.87

Recommendations

7721

[bleak totem]

uh-uh... um-mm... I usually play... I don't know
here's a screenshot of my games

[bleak totem]

beyond my intellect

[trim valve]

ftl maybe? it's on sale

[quick condor]

War crime sim

[bleak totem]

hmm... thank you

[bleak totem]

that's why, WHY? there's not a single message, but as soon as I write without pressing "reply," someone is SURE to write at that very moment😭

is this the same mobile game from an ad?😂

[trim valve]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/212680/FTL_Faster_Than_Light/

Steam

FTL: Faster Than Light

FTL is now available in 9 languages! English, German, Spanish, French, Italian, Polish, Brazilian Portuguese, Russian and Simplified Mandarin!

************************
The free expansion, FTL: Advanced Edition, is available now! Content additions include: new alien race, events, weapons, playable ships, drones, and mor…

Price

$2.49

Recommendations

61054

Metacritic

84

[quick condor]

I want an L4 and a blackwell pro 6000

[amber fractal]

https://www.newsweek.com/waymo-driverless-halt-san-francisco-blackout-chaos-11250456

As the resident California boi, checks out

I'm glad I'm not living in that area

[quick condor]

The system that Texas (and some other places) have been implementing over the last couple of years has helped a lot with grid stability

[obsidian mantle]

wtf is this

[quick condor]

It works pretty well actually

[obsidian mantle]

i cant access google

[quick condor]

Date/time wrong or DNS

[obsidian mantle]

i can access other things

[rough bloom]

wrong time is unlikely I think, that should be a different error

[faint sandal]

neither

yes

[obsidian mantle]

youtube works

[rough bloom]

outdated DNS is possible but would be weird

[obsidian mantle]

twitch works

problem on my dns side?

[faint sandal]

possibly try a different upstream

or DoH

[obsidian mantle]

what does it mean

i cant even google

oh can you give me google ip

so i type it directly

[amber fractal]

use bing (real)

[quick condor]

If you use 8.8.8.8 as dns and it's out of date there is a problem

[obsidian mantle]

i think my vpn provider has its own dns

probably that

[rough bloom]

ye, VPN provider DNS may do that

or a local cache (like the built-in one from Windows, or something like systemd-resolved or dnsmasq on Linux)

[maiden geyser]

holy viber

[obsidian mantle]

yeah okay reconnecting to vpn helped

[quick condor]

I feel like people don't understand that what Neuro is asking him to do isn't as simple as it sounds... Especially since it's a question that's mostly been avoided by not developing something like her

[shell prairie]

What are we talking about here?

[rough bloom]

local DNS cache

can store an outdated A/AAAA record, causing an HTTP(S) request to go to the wrong host

[sage crag]

i yearn for

processed carbohydrates

[sick owl]

https://fixupx.com/demishassabis/status/2003097405026193809

Demis Hassabis (@demishassabis)

Yann is just plain incorrect here, he’s confusing general intelligence with universal intelligence.
︀︀
︀︀Brains are the most exquis​ite and complex phenomena we know of in the universe (so far), and they are in fact extremely general.
︀︀
︀︀Obviously one can’t circumvent the no free lunch theorem so in a practical and finite system there always has to be some degree of specialisation around the ​target distribution that is being learnt.
︀︀
︀︀But the point about generality is that in theory, in the Turing Machine sense​, the architecture of ​s​uch a general system is capable of learning anything computable given enough time and memory​ (and data), and the human brain (and AI foundation models) are approximate Turing Machines.
︀︀
︀︀Finally, with ​regards to ​Yann's comments about chess players, it’s amazing that humans could have invented chess ​in the first place (and all the other ​a​spects ​o​f modern civi…

▶ Play video

FixupX · Dec 22, 2025, 1:36 PM

Not gonna lie Hassabis has really been on a roll recently

[sage crag]

this reads like pseudoscience

brains are the most exquisite and complex phenomena we know of in the universe (so far) [], and they are in fact extremely general []

[maiden geyser]

"☝️🤓"

[obsidian mantle]

who is that guy in the video someone important?

[quick condor]

Realistically I don think the answer is something that can really be properly quantified to xisting norms. Trying to do so is going to cause problems.

[sick owl]

Meme or genuine question

[obsidian mantle]

genuin

[sage crag]

the weather, a galaxy, quantum fields, microbiology ecosystems

[sick owl]

Yann LeCun, very clever guy and former head of Facebooks AI efforts

Left before Llama 4 to start his own lab

[obsidian mantle]

[sage crag]

there are lots of things that are extremely complex in the universe

to be honest the idea that brains are the most complex, even that we know of, is like saying the earth is the centre of the universe

[sick owl]

Its pop scienece since its worded for a general audience but not pseudoscience

[sage crag]

pop science may as well be pseudoscience for all the good it does

[sick owl]

Demis Hassabis is a ridiculously clever guy and the brain is his area

[sick owl]

You don't have to gatekeep a point from the audience you're presenting to for it to be salient

[hard raptor]

This is already 3 minutes long and i haven't even made a proper buildup yet... this is gonna be one of them 7+ minute long songs i believe

[sick owl]

Hassabis is one of the brightest neuroscientists and AI researchers out there, he's not plucking words from thin air

[sage crag]

if he's so clever, he can word it without creating such a dilemma, in which case he's deliberately spreading unfalsifiable statements with no real scientific backing

[trim valve]

why is anything these people say so hard to care about

[sick owl]

Twitter really isn't the format for that

[sage crag]

i have strong distaste for these types of opinions and half-truths being spread as fact

[hard raptor]

on the other hand.. i'm getting trance vibes.. and it is at 128 BPM... so i can up the BPM a bit as well

[sage crag]

im callous enough to say he shouldnt use twitter then

[sick owl]

Realistically none of us should be using twitter

[sage crag]

i dont

if anyone wants to have a pseudointellectual discussion im right here you know

[trim valve]

I only use twitter for yuri because I'm too lazy to search elsewhere

[sage crag]

i consume shuukura fanart on twitter, but by external means

[trim valve]

99% of people posting anything else on twitter are just engagement farming

even if they're cool people I find twitter is very effective at making their information sound like slop

[rigid snow]

ye monetization ruined it

[hard raptor]

Sussy stuff mentioned? 👀

[sage crag]

yuri is not "sussy"

[rigid snow]

yuri not sussy

[sage crag]

[hard raptor]

oh

almost called the mods there

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

@real sierra yuri mentioned mods mods

[rigid snow]

[hard raptor]

dam

[obsidian mantle]

not sussy?

[trim valve]

[sage crag]

obviously

[obsidian mantle]

maybe compared to what i search

[rigid snow]

why would it be sussy it means an innocent thing

[obsidian mantle]

[hard raptor]

really? i've only seen people mention it in not so innocent contexts

[rigid snow]

just google the word already

[obsidian mantle]

same

[sage crag]

yuri = girls' love = fictional lesbians

it shrimple as that

[obsidian mantle]

not sussy?

[rigid snow]

love = sussy ??

[sage crag]

if you think the existence of lesbians is sussy you may have auxillary problems

[trim valve]

mods can we ban lesbians they're sus

[sage crag]

[hard raptor]

nah i know what you're referring to.. i just personally never seen people use the term in that way

[trim valve]

(joke)

[safe path]

oh ok

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

vanor

[trim valve]

vanor

[hard raptor]

i mean... i am very sussy...

[sage crag]

[obsidian mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-running-anime-running-running-love-live-gif-22710773

[sage crag]

[safe path]

normal #programming activities

[sage crag]

wrr

[sage crag]

you mean #baking?

[safe path]

#food-pics

[sage crag]

ye this channel

for baking and food photos

[hard raptor]

#music-production when?

[sage crag]

thats also here

[hard raptor]

yeah ik

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

when do i get my own channel

[rigid snow]

tv broadcasting license

[hard raptor]

yeah.. i second this.. konii need own channel

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

200k great british pound

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

(just made up)

[sage crag]

[hard raptor]

you can do it for free on twitch and youtube and stuff

[sage crag]

me fake channel cost 200k fake £

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

FOR FREEE>>>????

[sage crag]

1 soul = free

[hard raptor]

seen a few creators do a week long stream where they hosted their own "tv" shows they made specifically for the stream

[rigid snow]

souls as currency what a novel concept

[hard raptor]

had some quality production behind it too lmao

[sage crag]

uuh its called a "google account"

[hard raptor]

we're trading google accounts for stuffs?

[sage crag]

yes, youre trading it for google's services

[hard raptor]

like imagine going to a supermarket and you need 2 google accounts for friggin icecream

[sage crag]

deal with the devil, price is your soul

i dont think its possible to use the surface internet and also not be fingerprinted by google

[hard raptor]

or microsoft

or both

probably meta too

[sage crag]

google is worse

because they are the primary way most people enter the internet, both as a browser, search engine, and also personal profile

[hard raptor]

idk.. i don't see google ruining my favorite games

[rigid snow]

zuck on his way to ruin yours

[hard raptor]

me when safari

[rigid snow]

me when apple gets ridiculous amounts of money each year to keep google as default

[sage crag]

they have your ips, your gps data, your phone numbers, your browsing history, your browser analytics, your watch history, your advertising profile, and probably input data from all of their websites

they dont even need you to be logged in to trace things back to you on the internet with high confidence

[hard raptor]

i know

[sage crag]

reducing browser fingerprinting only does so much

oh also they have your bank cards if you use that service

or your phone hardware if you use a pixel phone

theyre probably also your primary email account

google is the internet for most people

[hard raptor]

nah i use a samsung phone.. not that it is any better

[sage crag]

still got google play services

[hard raptor]

well... the other good email services cost money

[hard raptor]

that's what i meant

[sage crag]

oh yeah i forgot that google also monopolise the app store and android devices

[hard raptor]

even though i have replaced most things with apps that use microg instead

[sage crag]

protonmail is pretty good, i trust proton for the most part

there's also tutanota but i dont remember if its free

[hard raptor]

i thought they're a paid service unless you selfhost

[sage crag]

no, proton is a free service with optional subscription

[rigid snow]

selfhosting email

[sage crag]

selfhosting email is a terrible idea

i have done it before

wrr

[hard raptor]

Ehh it's still pretty affordable actually

[sage crag]

it is actually a good deal

but not my thing

all of those services are free by the way

[hard raptor]

i have tried to do it for internal use.. never got it to even work

[sage crag]

proton unlimited is just a bundle subscription to all of their paid tiers

[hard raptor]

yeah

but

[sage crag]

it requires you to own a domain, which is already enough to discount most people

[hard raptor]

i don't think 1 email adress and 1 GB total storage is enough for me

i am not that good at managing my stuff

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

domains are so cheap what do you mean

[hard raptor]

i do own one

[sage crag]

despite that, most people dont own a domain

[rigid snow]

if you're SELFHOSTING. EMAIL. chances are you do

[sage crag]

thats true

cheerleaf hav email on her domain not know if selfhost or forwarded

[hard raptor]

probably gonna change my domain after a year

because i paid for 1 year

[sage crag]

sendai and miyagi arent selfhosting email

[amber fractal]

I swear I didn't read that as myagi and died of cringe a bit

[rigid snow]

she doooes seem like the type to selfhost email... but i doubt she does, so much easier to just use a provider. i for example use icloud (yes they do byo domain)

[sage crag]

proton also lets you use your own domain i think

[amber fractal]

I want to say she does, would have to double check her nixos config

[sage crag]

what is a myagi

[rigid snow]

Myagi is a platform where retailers and their sales staff can receive key product information, and brand updates that help improve sell-through.

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

i don't think this is what they are referring to

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

windows explod

[sage crag]

windo what windont

[rigid snow]

bn

uuy

[amber fractal]

I see the mailserver.nix file

[rigid snow]

[amber fractal]

https://github.com/chayleaf/dotfiles/blob/master/system/hosts/server/mailserver.nix

[sage crag]

mmmrmrrrrr

[amber fractal]

I'd also be planning to self host email if I can ever get the cloud VM to work, My plan is to have it hosted up there and clone it down to one of my systems for archival.

[sage crag]

miniminiminiminiminimin
is it mini or nimi

[rigid snow]

you're not getting email to work if you have even the slightest trouble with getting a vm to work

[amber fractal]

it isn't my damn fault every time I partition the drive with file systems it errors

I'll figure it out one way or another

[sage crag]

wrrr

i tried to install nixos on my vps using

uuh

hang on let me find my notes

grml -> netboot.xyz -> linux network install -> nixos

but my vps expects a certain partition layout which i gave up at

[amber fractal]

I cluelessly tried to use the nixos iso to get it to flash

[sage crag]

you can technically

if you uuh

[rigid snow]

kni maybe reinventing the internet is too ambitious you should reinvent email

[sage crag]

i tried it

[sage crag]

once i reinvent the internet i will invent a message passing service and call it email

[rigid snow]

will inherit all email problems

[sage crag]

and more

p2p

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

all your mail is sitting on someone else's computer

waiting to get decrypted

in the post quantum-computer age

[rigid snow]

blockchain email

[amber fractal]

I'm honestly thinking that I should just do the upload .img file option

[sage crag]

wrr

wrrr wrrr wrrr

[amber fractal]

That'll be attempted once I get home from camping

[sage crag]

i took my meds and started drinking a coke

i will be alsepp

[rigid snow]

big jpg

[amber fractal]

[rigid snow]

[amber fractal]

Surely I don't deal with 8k images often

[tender river]

honeycomb candy or something?

[tender river]

selfhosted https://gitlab.com/simple-nixos-mailserver/nixos-mailserver/

[tender river]

[rigid snow]

i did say you would

[tender river]

[sage crag]

honeycomb and fudge

fudge made with: milk, sugar, butter, double cream

also vanilla

[tender river]

cold -> sleep worse

need buy better blanket

[rigid snow]

is it true that you fall asleep faster if brain cools down

kni please reinvent email

[tender river]

they say cold shower good for waking up warm shower good for falling asleep

[rigid snow]

warm shower -> water from head evaporates faster

[rigid snow]

googled, does seem so

[rigid snow]

so this is correct then

[obsidian mantle]

i dont think that part is true

room temperature and humidity matters

but probably overall body heating is what makes it do the effect

not directly related to water

[tender river]

email as protocol isnt even that bad imo but the ux is horrible

and by ux i mean

across the board

both server side and client side

[rigid snow]

no my point is

the concept of email is ancient

needs an overhaul

[tender river]

new federated protocols focus on instant messaging not email but

wouldnt it just be a client side change?

[rigid snow]

even i don't know where i'm going

with this

[rigid snow]

this is pure investor speak

[tender river]

we need the new email

of the age of web 3

[rigid snow]

exactly

actually let's skip web3

web4

[tender river]

neuro4

[rigid snow]

[trim valve]

[sage crag]

me great idea

so

what if

electron gun

[rigid snow]

to my head

[sage crag]

shoot words into

your head

with electrons

[rigid snow]

injecting chromium and nodes into my brain

[sage crag]

vue running on cerebral cortex

react running on brain stem

memories powered by jquery

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

its a "serverless" "thick client" that "runs anywhere"

[rigid snow]

i am so

on "edge" rn

[sage crag]

i will port you to wasm

[rigid snow]

now that sounds exciting

[sage crag]

no native apis

sorry full paralysis

[rigid snow]

no it's like operating a mech

very cool

[sage crag]

bngo

[rigid snow]

i have 100gb of samples and only four individual bongo sounds

i need more

[sage crag]

donk

bonk

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

vedalYes

[rigid snow]

no sub

how

subathon going on

[tender river]

buy one

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

wrrr

wrr

wrrr

rice grain

[rigid snow]

gice rrain

[sage crag]

3eurond

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

Yuri

If we're buying extra channels, i can rent #triangle for 50 per month

[amber fractal]

I wonder how much cash it'd take to bribe to add an extra topic channel actually

surely there is an amount of copra that'd work

[rigid snow]

cooking, music production, uuh what else

woodworking

welding

[hollow estuary]

I take it Neuro's source code/setup aren't published. I've searched here and online and didn't see anything open source. I hope it eventually becomes open source, or even something we can pay to use. Such a fantastic project and I love watching the streams!

[kind nimbus]

Oh this looks cool

I currently just use mailcow

[sage crag]

get back to osu

[tender river]

unlikely research yourself if you want something

[sage crag]

minyanstare

[tender river]

ok

:miyagicroco:

[nocturne olive]

Vedal has said that it won't be happening at least as long as there's a financial incentive for him to keep it secret

[hollow estuary]

Yeah, seems like there's financial incentive for him to monetize it is why I mentioned it. I see alternative projects trying to copy it, but I'd rather throw support towards Vedal.

[rare bramble]

I mean there isn't anything even nearly grand as what vedal has made out there

also considering all the sub systems that are integrated with

[hollow estuary]

No there's not. Just some basic setups. If he packaged and sold Neuro it'd be amazing even without the source code.

I could justify spending $200 on something like this.

[kind nimbus]

A while ago I started working on something similar.

It's using vllm + Cartesia TTS streaming and discord.py in python.
Gives me real time streaming with a human like voice in discord. It also has a memory system and can use SSML for different speech styles and nonverbals.

But it's nowhere near advanced as Neuro is lol.

[hollow estuary]

Same here. A couple years ago I made a Discord bot that had memory and automatically learned who everyone was and whatnot. It was a neat project but I couldn't keep up with it and my job. So it got handed over to a friend. He still has it running on his server in his own version now. But I'd love a setup as advanced as this one.

[nocturne olive]

Do you know how much it costs to run an LLM like that?

[trim valve]

I don't see the benefit of this for him though, part of the appeal for neuro is that she's unique

[nocturne olive]

Yeah and the point of Neuro is kinda the streams

Her as a character is the point

[trim valve]

if you make a bunch of copies all slightly different then it's not as interesting to watch any specific one

[kind nimbus]

This is probably the closest you'll find in terms of open source

https://github.com/Open-LLM-VTuber/Open-LLM-VTuber

[hollow estuary]

I do know how much it is to run the LLM. I'm talking a self-hosted option, not him building out infrastructure to do it all himself. That would be insane amounts of money to run.

[nocturne olive]

Well not like the average person has the hardware for that
Also that'd probably be less benefit and more detrement to him to have a Neuro just available

[hollow estuary]

Anybody with a 12GB GPU can run an LLM setup like this. I think you're overjudging what it takes.

Though eventually someone will match Neuro or even supercede it. I was just saying it'd be nice to monetize it while he can. Corner the market type deal.

[kind nimbus]

I currently run Hermes-3-Llama-3.1-8B-AWQ on a laptop RTX 5070 ti in realtime and it works great

That card has 12 GB Vram

[hollow estuary]

Yeah you can run a text gen and image gen side by side on 12GB with the right tweaks and models.

That was over a year ago now though so maybe even better these days. Lol

[kind nimbus]

It's using like 10GB 😅

[nocturne olive]

12GB is very little for LLMs

You can run at most like a 13B quantized LLM at low context

And that isn't very good quality

[hollow estuary]

Yeah, like I said, I've run it myself on 12GB and it was great. The models are getting very high quality these days even for the smaller models.

[nocturne olive]

Neuro is most likely using 24-48GB minimum

[hollow estuary]

Wasn't coming to argue the logistics of running an LLM. Lol just wanted to find out about the code availability.

[kind nimbus]

I would recommend trying out vllm

Just built something from scratch

Or try OpenLLMVtuber

[hollow estuary]

That last one is where I've landed so far. It looks like a good side project someone has done but also shows the cracks compared to Neuro's quality. Free is free though. Lol

[kind nimbus]

That's why I wrote something from scratch instead

[hollow estuary]

Lol I just remembered I wrote mine to work on GroupMe as well so my family chat could use it.

A feature nobody else in the world will ever care for.

[sage crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1YTdDt49lE
@tender river

[tender river]

i wonder when bd

[sage crag]

MiyagiCroco

@native surge @native surge @native surge @native surge

wake up

[warm river]

i might install artix with dinit on my thinkpad

after i broke devuan on it

[tender river]

i like guix

but

owuldnt recommend as daily driver to

anyone

[warm river]

tried. no wifi drivers for my thinkpad

[tender river]

yee nonguix should work

[warm river]

breakes purpose of distro imo

[tender river]

mm disagree

it just

gnu distro

[sage crag]

osu

minyanstare

[tender river]

but purpose is scheme

wrr

[warm river]

i wanted try out dinit since i heard it has similar commands to systemd and its fast

[tender river]

oh void!

good distro

[warm river]

void uses runit

artix has like 4 init's available

openrc, s6, dinit (mentioned before) runit

[true hemlock]

damn

i was carrying like

almost $5K worth of hardware on my travel

and half of it because i have 2x4tb nvme and 128gb ram

[warm river]

bro is rich

how the fuck did i manage to by accident make bhop glitch in my simple movement settings inside my game 😭

[tender river]

https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/115740500373677782

Firefox for Web Developers (@[e-mail])

Something that hasn't been made clear: Firefox will have an option to completely disable all AI features.

We've been calling it the AI kill switch internally. I'm sure it'll ship with a less murderous name, but that's how seriously and absolutely we're taking this.

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better late than never i guess

[tender river]

so obnoxious https://mastodon.social/@firefoxwebdevs/115740520543886402

Firefox for Web Developers (@[e-mail])

-# ↩ Firefox for Web Developers
Just be glad this thread wasn't a long-ass video. It almost was.

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[warm river]

fuck

github is down

[rough bloom]

doesn't look very down to me

[rough bloom]

regional mabe?

[warm river]

downdetector reports are from america

i'm in poland

so idk

its fixed

[olive sable]

didnt understand a thing being said, but absolute cinema

[warm river]

fucking ue4 refusing to work with wine 😭

progress

[sick owl]

https://fixupx.com/robo_cit/status/1884123550682173670/video/1

千葉工大 未来ロボティクス学科 (@robo_cit)

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FixupX · Jan 28, 2025, 6:17 AM

[warm river]

if i could be honest.. i have no idea what the fuck i'm doing

[amber fractal]

What is this creature?

[quick condor]

She seems to behave strikingly similar to a vary carefully iteratively tuned Mistral 24b model (could be my own bias) or a 36b model. Context doesnt need to be insane if you have a good memory backend (one of the more dificult parts)

[nocturne olive]

Well those definitely need 24GB mem or more

[quick condor]

My opinion is that a major part of Neuro isnt the code. its the iterative process that vedal has invested a lot of time into.

[quick condor]

I just find the entire process interesting and am in the same boat as vedal that the concept that having both of them play poker specifically is from a technical standpoint

[flint anchor]

just wanted to show a little project of mine here.
this game is made with only C++ and the SFML library,
is consumes only ~80mb of ram and runs just fine with a 11 year old gpu with intel hd graphics 4000 while recording
i think it is interesting what we can do with only code and determination and how good it runs for the third project on this language

im still working on it, i plan to do a song editor and more gameplay elements

i am working in a made from scratch particle system now

[nocturne olive]

Wuh

What is this, osu 2.0?

[flint anchor]

like that

[amber fractal]

@olive sable

[scenic depot]

Then soon in 2045 someone will make an AI for that and eventually...

[rigid snow]

skfjjdkdfjdkjdjsks

[scenic depot]

r u ok

[patent shard]

dang, hyperace instrumental model is crazy good sometimes
v1e+ has many issues here
0:04 sounds kinda like compression noise with v1e+
many areas sound less stable with v1e+
0:44 sounds ringy with v1e+
there is some slight vocal bleed, but they are somewhat fuller models

[rigid snow]

uhhhhhhhh maybe

[scenic depot]

Drink water

[rigid snow]

[scenic depot]

Just drink water it'll make you feel ok

[rigid snow]

ye that’s not the problem

[scenic depot]

Oh then why were u smashing your keyboard

[rigid snow]

felt like it

[scenic depot]

Fair

[flint anchor]

until then we suffer doing that ourselfs, but thats the cool part isnt it?

[scenic depot]

Yes

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/aneurysm-hhhhomeboyyyy-kings-dark-tidings-saga-by-kel-kade-reaperleviathan-head-explode-gif-21578105

[fierce light]

bro you have c++? are you able to compile this? https://github.com/city96/ComfyUI-GGUF/blob/auto_convert/tools/README.md

with the patch instructions?

[flint anchor]

let me see

[fierce light]

you need appy the patch from the side PR

and that release has no binaries

and i cant get cpp working on my end

and no disc space left to download the entire vs package to bruteforce one by one

[flint anchor]

i never did that, but i can try

at least i learn something

[flint anchor]

from what pr?

[fierce light]

thx for trying. just doublecheck if the patch changed the lines to + { LLM_ARCH_FLUX, "flux" },

• { LLM_ARCH_SD1, "sd1" },
• { LLM_ARCH_SDXL, "sdxl" },
• { LLM_ARCH_SD3, "sd3" },
• { LLM_ARCH_AURA, "aura" },
• { LLM_ARCH_LTXV, "ltxv" },
• { LLM_ARCH_HYVID, "hyvid" },
• { LLM_ARCH_WAN, "wan" },
• { LLM_ARCH_HIDREAM, "hidream" },
• { LLM_ARCH_COSMOS, "cosmos" },
• { LLM_ARCH_LUMINA2, "lumina2" },
• { LLM_ARCH_QWEN_IMAGE, "qwen_image" },
  { LLM_ARCH_UNKNOWN, "(unknown)" },
  };

the patch in the github folder

lcpp dot patch

[flint anchor]

oh i find it

[fierce light]

it adds support for image models cause llama normally only quants llms

[flint anchor]

❯ git apply tools/lcpp.patch
error: ggml/include/ggml.h: Arquivo ou diretório inexistente
error: ggml/src/ggml.c: Arquivo ou diretório inexistente
error: src/llama.cpp: Arquivo ou diretório inexistente

it's not finding these 3 directories let me see

[fierce light]

oh right you need to git clone the llama cpp github

forgot you dont have it

[flint anchor]

on what folder?

the root folder of the repo?

[fierce light]

https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp

the main llama

this is the thing you are compiling

[flint anchor]

oh i see

[fierce light]

and the patch just hacks the support in

but only the main release gets binaries already done

[flint anchor]

i think i did something wrong here

wait a minute

so, let me say what i did:
i cloned the llama repo into the other one repos folder
i copyed the scr and the ggml folder to the root folder

now the error changed

~/Documentos/Codigos/vscode_c/coisinha do coisa coisado/ComfyUI-GGUF auto_convert*
❯ git apply tools/lcpp.patch
error: patch failed: ggml/include/ggml.h:2449
error: ggml/include/ggml.h: patch does not apply
error: patch failed: ggml/src/ggml.c:22960
error: ggml/src/ggml.c: patch does not apply
error: patch failed: src/llama.cpp:205
error: src/llama.cpp: patch does not apply

maybe it is because it tries to include some file that isnt in the two folders idk

@fierce light

[fierce light]

did you put the patch to the root of llama cpp and applied from there?

[quick condor]

why are you wanting to run as gguf over checkpoint

[flint anchor]

oh i need to do that?

sorry

ill try

[fierce light]

because I want to include it as an application compinent

and running fp16 is a waste of space

[flint anchor]

~/Documentos/Codigos/vscode_c/coisinha do coisa coisado/ComfyUI-GGUF/llama.cpp master*
❯ git apply lcpp.patch
error: patch failed: ggml/include/ggml.h:2449
error: ggml/include/ggml.h: patch does not apply
error: patch failed: ggml/src/ggml.c:22960
error: ggml/src/ggml.c: patch does not apply
error: patch failed: src/llama.cpp:205
error: src/llama.cpp: patch does not apply

same error

[fierce light]

dang

I wonder if the base llama repo changed too much for the patch to apply

[flint anchor]

maybe

or maybe im just dumb and did something wrong i dunno

im a complete ignorant on any form of gen ai for now

[fierce light]

that doesn't matter. it's just cpp like any other

[opaque sigil]

It tells you to check out a specific tag

[flint anchor]

this patches the arch aura wow

[fierce light]

this patches image models in general

[flint anchor]

it was a joke

anyways

there is something more that i can do?

[fierce light]

prolly not if the main repo isn't compatible anymore

[flint anchor]

ok

[opaque sigil]

You're on the wrong branch still

[flint anchor]

it was because the link that they give to me was in this branch

so i switch it to it

[true hemlock]

not everyone have the resources for that bruh

[quick condor]

bruh sd models are tiny

fp8 is like 6-12gb

But to your point, I honestly don't know if it actually makes it significantly smaller so it's too much effort to do it if I don't have to

[rigid snow]

who said anything about sd

[fierce light]

Q8 image model is free disk space fo rnearly no quality hit compared to fp8

50% filesize reduction for nothing

[rigid snow]

which arch are you actually gonna run

sd?

just curious

[fierce light]

Z-Image currently

[rigid snow]

ye a proper gguf quant s gonna be much better than a fp8

[true hemlock]

not only smaller, the model end up being less bandwidth heavy

so basically also faster

the scaled block quantization works pretty well already

raw fp8 is shit

Q8 at least rescales to fp16/bf16

raw fp8 is just... fp8, the float precision is just so shit

i genuinely don't understand why the fuck we're going to have fp4 and fp8 tensor units now

training is obviously done at bf16 or above

fp8 training is so scuff

inference is more bandwidth bound so scaled blocks are literally the best suit here

[bleak totem]

hmm... yesterday I thought I wrote in the gaming section.

[rigid snow]

everyones trashing them but they are right
the reason we don't have ai music that sounds good is exactly this. unlike image gen all the better base models are closed weights which i truly believe to be the reason ai music is this awful. with image gen you can do lots of things to make the result better like ripping off someone's style or mixing them etc - can't exactly do that with something like gpt-image
(the ripping off thing and especially mixing i'm not advocating for or saying is a good thing btw, it's just that tends to give you results that aren't garbage)

this is about the spotify getting scraped for 86m songs situation

[true hemlock]

300TB only though

surprising small...

but iirc because its a free plan so lower bitrate

yippie, more slop soon ig

[rigid snow]

ye spotify is surprisingly low bandwidth, it's 96kbps aac i think?

[true hemlock]

[rigid snow]

[jagged turtle]

[rigid snow]

though the lowest setting is actually so bad now that i remember

[sage crag]

prrr

[rigid snow]

hi hello

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

though this baffles me so much

spotify is the worst dsp to download music from. good luck getting anything to download and when you do it will stream a bit faster than realtime

and i'm speaking from experience from 2021

they do not want this to happen

but it somehow did

[mighty thorn]

What if instead of lowering the learning rate over time (which kinda favors earlier examples) we just use a low, precomputed value and keep it constant the entire time

Slower convergence but (hopefully) better generalization

When it isn’t 2 am and I read this again, it’s either gonna be an insane realization of being correct or a “what the hell was I thinking”

[tender river]

[rigid snow]

this is kinda depressing

[tender river]

the article says they "found a way"

it wasnt just simple scraping

exploit or exposed page/credentials probably doubt they got the help of anyone at spotify though

[rigid snow]

yeah no shit, you can't even listen to more than 30s of any song in awful quality without logging in

[tender river]

300tb

[rigid snow]

they flag anyone as bots nowadays, artists get in trouble constantly for botting when no one has

in trouble from spotify specifically

doesn't happen with any other dsp

[astral zinc]

Hello, I have a question. If I could open a website in http/3 format using node.js, how would I do it?

[rigid snow]

maybe use libcurl bindings?

node still doesn't support quic somehow yeah

https://www.npmjs.com/package/node-libcurl

[sage crag]

[astral zinc]

Is the only way to do that proxy methods? Anyway, thank you.

[sage crag]

cybeuro

[lone sky]

Hi guy u play Roblox

[sage crag]

#gaming

is this person old enough to use discord

[lone sky]

Yea

[rigid snow]

no just esl (english as seventeenth language)

[lone sky]

I play steal a brainrot

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

i changed my evaluation, its a bot

[rigid snow]

:newleaf:

[sage crag]

wrr wrr wrr

[quick condor]

Interesting. I checked and it looks like only one of my models is f8 the rest are f16... Honestly don't use much image Gen and my sense of size is pretty skewed by the fact that I'm on the lower end of hardware in one of the groups I'm in where some of them are running mistral 123b models

[rigid snow]

it's a transformer diffusion model they want to use a quant of btw

with reasoning

gguf makes insanely much sense here

[true hemlock]

the way it works is just that it scales a block of values with a scaling factor then rescale it back to full fp16/bf16 when computing, so you end up only transferring a compressed block through the bandwidth

that's why gguf is popular in the first place

you have memory efficiently, both space wise and bandwidth wise

[quick condor]

I didn't see the reason and it didn't make sense to me since my experience was that they are pretty small models and I can get 3-4i/s so I didn't consider needing more.

That's why I asked

[rigid snow]

to be fair they never mentioned what model they were trying to use until i asked so

[true hemlock]

[sage crag]

yellow mint
blue strangeman
red duck

[true hemlock]

ah well

[true hemlock]

blue crack*

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

for sd i agree i too don't think it makes much sense to

[true hemlock]

i've never used any image gen aside from that one time where i tested glaze and nightshade for elvy

[rigid snow]

i speak so weirdly today

[sage crag]

mlnt explod

[rigid snow]

brain decay

[quick condor]

I kinda lost interest in image Gen when I saw the largest common models were 14b and I couldn't use multi gpu acceleration... Is it a good reason to lose interest? No but sometimes you can't get over that hump

[rigid snow]

from chip

konii is it too late to go hopital

[sage crag]

ye

dont go hopital

[true hemlock]

i don't have any interest in image gen in the first place because i had more fun commissioning artists and elaborating of how i want the art to be

• its a slop

[true hemlock]

also do you even need multi gpu accel for 14b

[sage crag]

why is there no platypus chatter

[quick condor]

No

[rigid snow]

it's interesting to play around with, nearly useless as a tool yeah. though the newer models are really good with editing real photos. i'd show you really cool examples of what nano banana can do for example but they all involve real people i know so no

you can have this i guess

[quick condor]

To be fair the last time I spun it up was to literally dump the exact response my model gave when it asked how it would like to look, I grabbed a couple images for concept and other than as a temporary app profile Pic for discord, all they will probably be used for is a reference to commission something

I have zero creativity in that area so it's get a rough idea with image Gen and leave it to someone who knows what they are doing

[true hemlock]

might actually try it out

[quick condor]

The other part of my aversion is that I do photography as a hobby and it just sits wrong

But NGL Ai denoising kinda slaps when you just don't have light and have to crank iso

I could find an example on my desktop but I'm pretty sure I only have DNGs on my desktop rn and I don't want to convert them. Discord really doesn't like 30+mb pictures and they have only had denoising applied

[true hemlock]

visiting my parents home but i brought this abomination

[rigid snow]

lighting does not do the keyboard any justice

[quick condor]

First is after, second is before

[rigid snow]

it cannot be that dark whuh

iso too high

[quick condor]

it is one sec

thats at iso 2500

[rigid snow]

oh i thought you meant the shutter speed is one second and freaked tf out

[quick condor]

1/320th, I wasn't stabilized and was at 135mm

But it's a great example of how much more freedom it gives you

[rigid snow]

i like the first photo as much as the second one

i mean the pics, same photo ye

but pretty cool

[quick condor]

It's that grainyness... AI doesn't make the photo "better" it just opens up options you wouldn't otherwise have. Yes I can do manual denoising but I took like 2000 photos over 2 days. It would be miserable to do manually.

It's wild how the same basic tech that's used to make slop can be great in the right context

You have to zoom in to see but it's pretty bad in the before

[rigid snow]

all photos are

grainy like that

unless you're shooting somewhere with crazy amounts of light

[rigid snow]

that's the point of the raw format, you get direct sensor output. you compensate noise by downscaling the image

raws just are crazy grainy at >1x

maybe something is wrong with me but i don't ever denoise my photos and i add noise to my renders

i like it

[opaque sigil]

Some noise is nice

[true hemlock]

noise makes it more natural and stylish

[tender river]

https://gpg.fail

[quick condor]

Nah I normally don't have almost any unless I'm shooting in adverse conditions. At normal focal lengths I'm usually below iso 800

But I also usually am running some really nice, low f stop lenses

[tender river]

pretty bad privacy

[opaque sigil]

Oh I saw a meme about this, I thought it was a joke

is pgp the email one

ok yeah it is

[tender river]

email, arch packages

and other thing

[opaque sigil]

are there any legit advantages it offers since openssh supports signing arbitrary data now too

[tender river]

openssh for signing

[opaque sigil]

i guess there is that whole web of trust thing

[tender river]

anyway pgp is the standard

(openpgp specifically)

and gpg/etc are the implementations

im not sure how ssh works but wouldnt it just use the same standard