programming

[amber fractal]

I only have the RGB tax, not the white one

[sick owl]

Exactly, way too cheap

[umbral thorn]

omfg...

64gb d5 ecc already cost $1500

[quick condor]

They are also a "cheap" option

[amber fractal]

how in the frick did I find a 2tb server for 9k then

[umbral thorn]

$18K

@true hemlock

[amber fractal]

geez these priced are insane

[umbral thorn]

ur 768gb ddr5 ecc

[zealous fiber]

$115 mb

[umbral thorn]

[zealous fiber]

insane work

[minor crag]

This graph shows the increase of depression over the past 120 days (it is £369 for 1 32GB stick)

[umbral thorn]

[olive sable]

i bought this a year ago for my old pc. and then it was 108 bucks

[sick owl]

Admittedly Corsair have always been over priced on their official store but yeah it's still a grim state of affairs

[olive sable]

now its not in stock, but half the capacity is 207 bucks

[umbral thorn]

wtf even is project stargate

so useless

[olive sable]

so it has literally quadrupled in price since last year

[amber fractal]

add another simple bug to the discord is jank list

literally just rotate while viewing image

completly consistant

[minor crag]

Australian

[quick condor]

Wtf I tried and while it worked the second time, discord straight crashed the first time

How

[zealous fiber]

ah yes horizontal scrolling

[rigid snow]

that keyboard

last time i saw it was like android 2 point some shit

2013?

[olive sable]

look slike a galaxy s4 or something

[amber fractal]

Second time works, first one is as shown

[amber fractal]

[rigid snow]

it is

i was right

that's crazy

gingerbread is 2.3?i think

[amber fractal]

yeah I believe it is

It was one of my first oses, so I still have a soft spot for it

[rigid snow]

yeah the og android look was kinda great

back when apps used to look like the os

me very angry this is where we end up

like come on

[amber fractal]

I love how the root site is just blank

surely I could get one

[olive sable]

tomorrow is dec 19th?

[rigid snow]

already

[olive sable]

ye

idk how this happened

time is weird

[amber fractal]

time really is weird

(not me looking to see 17th only to remeber timezones exist)

[scarlet agate]

i HIGHLY recommend heliboard. open source, deeply customiseable (both the style and the actual layout), option for swipe if you don’t mind closed source. changed my life for better

(i don’t think this qualifies as advertising considering how there is no product?)

[jagged turtle]

should I do this on the API repo?

[glad path]

use dark

[amber fractal]

Dark doesn't exist

[glad path]

what

no dark mode?

[amber fractal]

There is no dark mode

[amber fractal]

There is no dark, it's just a settings window

[glad path]

why

why cant u get dark mode

on the keyboard even?

[amber fractal]

Keyboard has dark, just not settings

[glad path]

sob

[olive sable]

domain expansion; dark mode

https://tenor.com/view/dark-mode-be-like-darkmode-gif-20993262

[dapper kernel]

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

buckent

[obsidian mantle]

Where konii

[warped narwhal]

Me consumed

[umbral thorn]

[sage crag]

atori

how is geometry

[sage crag]

[silent cloak]

So true

[cobalt sigil]

https://www.threads.com/@let_webs/post/DSZaQsiD8mj?xmt=AQF031m6gq_JXOxZycL5rWiRQYJ92FupJdjb3V4Uuq8dmkBHy7trDQvdO8-rb9DvjTQreCU&slof=1 goodest programming skills

[tardy vortex]

Neuro became blue

[rare bramble]

discord update caused a regression where channels take 7 hours to load now

thank you discord

[trim valve]

menacing checkbox

[sage crag]

＃INCLUDE　＜STDIO。ｈ＞

INT　MAN （）
｛
　　　　PRINTF（”HELLO WORLD”）；
　　　　RETURN　０；
｝

[trim valve]

so true nixos

[sage crag]

red rectangle black border
Connected
ee wifi
Connected
ee wifi-x
Connected

[nocturne olive]

Tri-WiFi?

[sage crag]

you can connect to more than 1 wifi at once

but probably bug

[ivory plinth]

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1187930764873056278/1438843835315654757/neuroModeMode.gif

[trim valve]

incredible

[sage crag]

networkmanager skill issue

[nocturne olive]

Wehn this number goes below 128K I get an audio stutter

[trim valve]

💢

[nocturne olive]

Such is the VNC life

[sage crag]

[trim valve]

me need vpn back to uni

[sage crag]

networking = { hostName = "nixos"; useNetworkd = true; useDHCP = true; };
here's my network config

[trim valve]

options are:

• raw openconnect
• somehow making the offical client work
• netoworkmanager plugin

[nocturne olive]

I have literally no idea why this weird link is so slow that it barely does the audio let alone the graphics

[sage crag]

oh also

services = {
    resolved.enable = false;
    nextdns = { enable = true; arguments = [ "-config" "f2486e" ]; };
};

highlight.js is so bad

s ervices

[trim valve]

networkmanager is incredible code

the first time I try to connect it crashes

the second time I get a login window but it fails

[sage crag]

networkmanager is anti-unix

so i appreciate its existence

even if it sucks

[trim valve]

raaah

it no workey

[nocturne olive]

Maybe some day I'll mess around with NixOS

Seems somewhat silly

[sage crag]

nixos not silly

[trim valve]

X-Private-Pan-Globalprotect: auth-failed

grr

[sage crag]

least silly linux distro

[nocturne olive]

Currently though I have a lack of messing around machines

[nocturne olive]

So I can't mess around with random distros of various silliness

[sage crag]

linux still silly though

nixos not silly relative to rest of linux

[trim valve]

http 512

thank you palo alto networks

[nocturne olive]

Hardware is also very expensive so I have a lack of it

But maybe some day I'll have a machine where I can mess around with different distros without taking down my entire host setup

[jagged turtle]

senior engineer decided to bypass the CI checks and push to prod anyways

[trim valve]

raaaah

why does nothing work

"If it hangs, please check the logs at /tmp/nix-shell-9344-703999220/gpcallback.log for more information"

$ ls /tmp/nix-shell-9344-703999220/
env-vars  gpcallback.port  rc

[sage crag]

[trim valve]

ok looks like the devs aren't completely insane

and you can just manually paste the token if you set the browser to remote

[trim valve]

not having fun

[faint sandal]

???

[umbral thorn]

clearly need threadripper

[nocturne olive]

Maybe it's for AM4

[tough dove]

After running the "cargo build --release" command for 16 minutes on a game project that only displays a box and FPS, I've decided to switch to C++.

[trim valve]

is this bevy?

[tough dove]

yes

[trim valve]

did you read the thing in the docs about how to make it run well without also having to build in release every time

[sage crag]

why use bevy at all tbh

if its a simple game

just use macroquad

or if that's too much for you, use minifb or something

or miniquad

rust gavedev is famously bad though

[tough dove]

No, but its performance is still poor.

[trim valve]

what

[sage crag]

[tough dove]

I need extremely high FPS.

[trim valve]

fair enough

do i dare ask why

[rigid snow]

sam mentality

[sage crag]

fps more important than game

[trim valve]

many choices

[sage crag]

[trim valve]

wrr

[sage crag]

wrr

https://tenor.com/view/wrrr-cat-angry-gif-10783708059666180688

[trim valve]

yes vpn I totally want to route all my traffic to my university

that's a great idea

[sage crag]

[tough dove]

I need to optimize everything so that no overengineering appears in my Facebook suggestions anymore. And what could be better or more impressive than something they're proud of?

[trim valve]

if you want to impress those people just calculate your fps wrong

they won't notice

so far my issues are:

• I can't get networkmanager-openconnect to open firefox instead of a webview
• I can use gpclient, but that has:
  • weird "premium" stuff for its gui, that turns me off the project partly
  • doesn't seem to be able to register as a permanent network I can turn on/off
• all my traffic gets routed, but I kinda only want to route a subnet

[tough dove]

I think at least one of them did it. They wouldn't believe anyone could actually achieve a higher FPS than faking it.
Someone else achieved a higher FPS than me, even though my equipment was more powerful, using the same engine and a blank project.

[trim valve]

it also kills my spotify when I connect

[trim valve]

are you familiar with the red triangle here

[tough dove]

no

[trim valve]

https://github.com/samvanmaele/vulkan

[tough dove]

Google on my phone automatically switched to French even though there's no French language option in the language settings.

[umbral thorn]

🔺

[tough dove]

what is red triangle ?

[trim valve]

it renders a red triangle

and gives you an fps count

[nocturne olive]

I just dicovered a new NeuroSynth parameter and it's absolute peak

[trim valve]

how do you discover a new parameter in software you're writing

[umbral thorn]

u render simple triangle in vulkan & compete get highest fps

[nocturne olive]

Surely NeuroSynth isn't just using an open-source vocal synthesis engine

[rigid snow]

ye obviously you developed a custom architecture

[umbral thorn]

[trim valve]

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mini-miniko-minikomew-gif-1425820994898369756

[trim valve]

not like

vpn

at all

aaaaaaa

[rigid snow]

why mouth open

[sage crag]

:MONKA:

[umbral thorn]

[rigid snow]

look weird

[sage crag]

:MONKA: <-

[rigid snow]

there’s no mouth on monka i

[umbral thorn]

@thorny marsh do dis

[rigid snow]

mandela effect or

i’m checking

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1424355471887699988.webp?size=512

[rigid snow]

that’s mini still

i mean the

actual

[sage crag]

it is

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1424355471887699988.webp?size=512

that's the link

[warped narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-grabbermegamind2-gif-23461251

[sage crag]

its a discord cdn link

discord have a lot of your ip already

[rigid snow]

discord cdn grabber

[warm zealot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1045596311581376512.webp?size=48

[warped narwhal]

Because discord cdn has never been used to serve malware

[sage crag]

yes that what a cdn is for

[rigid snow]

cip dgrabber nlink

[sage crag]

cip dgrabber nlink

sip degrabber n link

makes sense

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

remove dimension from neuro3d get neuro3

[rigid snow]

is cat. mouth obstructed by protrusion on face and camera angle. mini cat but human face. not obstructed. creative liberty. i accept

[trim valve]

increasing urge to fork

wrr

[sage crag]

wrr

:MiyagiCroco:

[rigid snow]

to fork who

[trim valve]

wait this one my be my fault

[rigid snow]

🍴

[trim valve]

grr

no

[sage crag]

people not git repo

[tough dove]

The setup process took longer than I expected.

[tender river]

ye it because

not valid nix expression

prefix with let or surround with {} to make valid

nix snippets that are shared are often not expressions

[sage crag]

{
  services = {};
}

true!

[idle dune]

My 64gb ddr4 steal will last me decades

[sage crag]

i have 32gb ddr5 and 16gb ddr4 sitting on a shelf

its the most expensive thing i own

[idle dune]

My brother was showing me what his DDR5 purchase was like 4 years ago when DDR5 was still new and kinda expensive

132 bucks for 32gb budget ram

That same ram is now 600+

[tough dove]

55000-60000 It's quite impressive because I'm using a laptop. (8gb ram)

[sage crag]

🪤

[tough dove]

I fell into the trap.

[silent cloak]

gonna have to start lowering my IRL render distance to deal with the ram shortage

[trim valve]

windows or linux?

[sage crag]

@tender river me realise problem

with nix

ssd longevity :rrrr:

COW filesystem help though

hm

hard linking maybe also help

[tender river]

true! me not update often tho also use hard linking not sure if it help

[sage crag]

leaf use bcachefs or btrfs

[tender river]

both btrfs better though

bcachefs good for multidevice

[sage crag]

btrfs old old

good thing

[tender river]

yee reliable and stable on-disk format

can downgrade kernel without issue

[sage crag]

"btrfs bad data integrity on power loss"

me see this complaint a lot

[rough bloom]

ye

• use CoW filesystem
• do not gc every 10 minutes
• use NixOS stable

[sage crag]

oops

im using

f2fs

i use

nixos unstable

i do nixos-rebuild maybe every day

[rough bloom]

SSD torture

[tender river]

[sage crag]

old game

f2fs doesnt do COW does it

[tender river]

https://openttd.org

[sage crag]

f2fs does actually have bad data integrity on power loss too

[sage crag]

"noatime" maybe actually help disk live longer too

[tough dove]

windows

[trim valve]

oh impressive

[tender river]

btrfs guarantee filesystem consistency but not that all data will be flushed immediately, same as any other fs

[trim valve]

that's like, top of leaderboard lol

[sage crag]

consider os n driver updates since last lb entry

[rough bloom]

probably does if it balances writes badly
surely doesn't write that much data though, so shouldn't be bad as long as it doesn't hit the same 3 flash cells all the time

[trim valve]

true

[sage crag]

f2fs nobarrier

[rigid snow]

Forking Urges

[tender river]

btrfs not use journaling

[sage crag]

[trim valve]

nixos question

does [nix-]direnv just load any direnv file if it feels like it

[tender river]

no idea me not use

[trim valve]

because on one hand that's cool, but also feels insecure as hell

[opaque sigil]

you still have to initially allow it

[rough bloom]

IIRC you need to approve directories first

[sage crag]

you can store your passwords plaintext in your nix user config if you want

[rough bloom]

similar to trusted directories in VS Code

[trim valve]

just checking that tool didn't pull a linux user classic

[sage crag]

nix defaults seem okay for safety

need to enable stupid mode

[opaque sigil]

i think the only thing nix-direnv does is add the shell to gc-roots so it doesn't get gc'd?

[rough bloom]

ye doesn't prevent you from doing something stupid
but makes it fairly obvious when you are

[sage crag]

options = [ "noatime" "compress_algorithm=zstd:6" "compress_extension=*" "discard" "checkpoint_merge" "alloc_mode=reuse" "atgc" "gc_merge" "nobarrier" ];
i am unhinged

me think cpu and ram faster than me nvme

so compress actually make disk faster

[thorny marsh]

you woke me up

whar and how

[rough bloom]

level 6

seems high

[sage crag]

me not notice any throughput problems

[rough bloom]

ye probably still fine

just not sure if improvement over no compression

[sage crag]

[nix-shell:~]$ sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/nvme0n1

/dev/nvme0n1:
 Timing cached reads:   48358 MB in  2.00 seconds = 24217.75 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 9056 MB in  3.00 seconds = 3018.41 MB/sec

[tacit plover]

rare openttd sighting

[rough bloom]

[tacit plover]

[sage crag]

it called mugsmug

not cupsama

[thorny marsh]

??? empty ass button

wtf is this

[rigid snow]

rare programming ratsty sighting

[tacit plover]

No way people here call me a rat too

[sage crag]

i thought it was your name

[tacit plover]

It's not

[rigid snow]

me nn lurker

[sage crag]

my opinion of you have decreased

[tacit plover]

For not being a rat?

[sage crag]

no, nn lurker

[tacit plover]

What if I'm a NN chatter

[sage crag]

although ye, rat cool

not rat <- less cool

unless cat

or bat

or hat

[rigid snow]

they very active in nn

[sage crag]

this place worse

[sage crag]

me opinion of you degrade

due to nn lurker

[rigid snow]

ok

[sage crag]

na me not chat

last message me bully nesus

autismu

me 44k message in #programming

86k total

26k in #gaming

6k genchat

7k nn

3k unaccounted for

stream chat?

[tender river]

44k+9 in #gymbwaa-general

[sage crag]

locked

[tender river]

you sent yuri in the 9 messages i'm impressed

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

i not even know what channel this is

locked

[tender river]

gymbwaa-general

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

no recollection of existing

[sage crag]

oit

me cringe

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

/dev/nvme0n1p1:
 Timing cached reads:   50320 MB in  2.00 seconds = 25197.90 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 2048 MB in  0.71 seconds = 2871.44 MB/sec
/dev/sda: (SATA over USB3.0)
 Timing cached reads:   34638 MB in  2.00 seconds = 17336.56 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 1270 MB in  3.00 seconds = 423.32 MB/sec
/dev/sdb: (NAND flash chip over USB3.0)
 Timing cached reads:   45046 MB in  2.00 seconds = 22554.52 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads: 114 MB in  3.04 seconds =  37.55 MB/sec
/dev/sdc: (microsd card in usb adapter over USB3.0)
 Timing cached reads:   43126 MB in  2.00 seconds = 21594.46 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  58 MB in  3.01 seconds =  19.28 MB/sec

[warm zealot]

does the neuro minecraft server still exist i dont have access to the channel 💔💔

[sage crag]

ohh that what that is

[warm zealot]

nah diff thing

[tender river]

ye

[sage crag]

ohh i didnt even notice emoji

me eyes pass over it

not have that emoji anymore i should get it again

tesco

[warm zealot]

wait thats crazy

[sage crag]

tos

mods

ban her

[tender river]

not tos, but you got the link deleting i guess

[sage crag]

mods ban her she send a vedalUUH

banned emote

[sage crag]

[tender river]

lina

[sage crag]

tomato ear

what happen to asahi lina

[tender river]

she change name from asahi to hoshino recently

[sage crag]

hoshino lina

wonder why

[tender river]

maybe distance from asahi theres been some freedesktop drama and stuff and shes no longer involved

involving a stalker

[sage crag]

when isnt there freedesktop drama

[warm zealot]

ooh i didnt know that makes sense though

[sage crag]

:MiyagiCroco:

StareAtYouNeuro

[trim valve]

$ nix shell
error: hash mismatch in fixed-output derivation '/nix/store/bc2plgah5mkmcfdn1zrqn28zzarzyi4q-source.drv':
         specified: sha256-Cvy/ca2Q4LdxX7Z9KzuQy6t6FDMcaSyyyjF/YCnZeeM=
            got:    sha256-sHW0tU5zU5gEu6oX+ERCcZ7rxAgRp3PmMe9gvEHzlcE=
error: Cannot build '/nix/store/fb64nqlbhy79jb6fws0ns1nbljbnpx7f-rust-workspace-2.4.7.drv'.
       Reason: 1 dependency failed.
       Output paths:
         /nix/store/kgbm798g00qcr6lsncgbnzgmbxwzmfdm-rust-workspace-2.4.7

[sage crag]

StareAtYouNeuro

[trim valve]

its still broken

even after nuking the lock

[tender river]

deleting locks wont get you anything its still the same derivation

only useful if build process stuck

like actually stuck

wont happen for most people but theres a bug in nix that causes it with remote builders in certain conditions

[trim valve]

idk my only thought was they had somehow uploaded a dodgy lock file

[tender river]

ooh lock as in lockfile

[sage crag]

reproducible bugs

[tender river]

me thought nix derivation lock

that different from lockfile

it use flock syscall or something

[sage crag]

[trim valve]

why are we specifying hashes in a flake

isn't the whole point to not do that

[tender river]

me saw deadlock prevention mechanism for pure program, detect deadlock at runtime -> restart program

[tender river]

no the point is avoid ifd

import from derivation

flake not usually used for updating package sources

though it can be done

[tender river]

it mostly because

when update source hash

have to update other stuff like version

flake -> no maintenance benefit for sources

me use nvfetcher for other stuff though

https://github.com/berberman/nvfetcher

[trim valve]

this feels

wrong?

[tender river]

same hash for all cpu

[sage crag]

[tender river]

good pattern for stuff like this

hash = {
  x86_64 = "aaa";
  aarch64 = "bbb";
}.${cpu};

[warped narwhal]

Nuh uh, just make a different flake for each CPU

[sage crag]

[opaque sigil]

i guess if it's x86-64 only it'll fail either way

[tender river]

nix hashes another good use case for interactive editing using bijective functinos

[sage crag]

no one but leaf understand what leaf said

StareAtYouNeuro

[trim valve]

I still can't get it to build even after changing it to seemingly the right hash

[opaque sigil]

what's it complaining about

[sage crag]

1 day remain

actually it already 19th in japan

whatever

[tender river]

https://teadrinker.net/spine/ this

would work much better if langdev knew prolog

[sage crag]

AtorinConfused

[tender river]

me explain

program

transform source to output

bijective function can be reversed

meaning

you can display output to user

make it interactive

user change output -> program changes

same as prolog

+(1, 2, a) result in a = 3
+(a, 2, 3) result in a = 1

[sage crag]

did leaf eat all 11 cakes yet

[tender river]

in my case load code from disk -> display to user (one output of a program, must be bijective to be interactive) -> produce output (doesn't have to be bijective)

[tender river]

no it in fridge

[sage crag]

store in fridge????

[trim valve]

error: hash mismatch in fixed-output derivation '/nix/store/pq2scq2iisrx8ffzssqn6pcrc9awj3rp-source.drv':
         specified: sha256-fIQzYnXaVP9HyNij5zQC5MtEyuok+iTH1nwXiqknu30=
            got:    sha256-sHW0tU5zU5gEu6oX+ERCcZ7rxAgRp3PmMe9gvEHzlcE=
error: Cannot build '/nix/store/9887s6akmlnc3q1j7b22181ziifbqggs-rust-workspace-2.4.7.drv'.
       Reason: 1 dependency failed.
       Output paths:
         /nix/store/h7qlgyizdhb7wc0qml7a6z4nmcxpddl1-rust-workspace-2.4.7

[sage crag]

they get soggy evilBwaa~1

[trim valve]

https://github.com/yuezk/GlobalProtect-openconnect/blob/main/flake.nix

[sage crag]

store cakes at room temperature

in plastic box with some ventilation

they dont last long anyway

no shelf life

wrr

[rigid snow]

BAKING

[sage crag]

#baking ye

factory = reproducible build for baking

industrial already use nix

[tender river]

vanilla singleton bean

[rigid snow]

singleton

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

cold cake is better

[sage crag]

no

[rigid snow]

yes

[sage crag]

cold icing yes

cold cake

no

[rigid snow]

whole

ye

[sage crag]

no

[rigid snow]

better

[sage crag]

no

it not

flavour of cake changes when cold

vanilla aromatic

lose flavour

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

me hyper autist ok

[rigid snow]

ok

[sage crag]

not trust me flavour detection

[rigid snow]

your opinion is yours

but not same as mine

which makes it

incorrect

[sage crag]

[tender river]

me trust konii but not trust buttercream in room temperature

[sage crag]

ye that can true evilThink

wow

evilthink

[sage crag]

me suggest add more icing sugar if it melt at room temp

shouldnt melt at room temp

melt with humidity more

probably too late to take out of fridge though, will condense water on it

need to leave in fridge now probably

[rigid snow]

it’s raining

[tender river]

moscow weather

[rigid snow]

where the fuck is snow

[sage crag]

here too raining

[tender river]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-xmas-neuro-sama-neuro-sama-vedal-gif-17885397028520053333

[sage crag]

Cheer about it

[rigid snow]

all melted

[sage crag]

wrrr

wrrrr

wrrrrr

https://tenor.com/view/wrrr-cat-angry-gif-10783708059666180688

MiyagiCroco

[olive sable]

thats me

hi

[olive sable]

🔺

[sage crag]

no its not

[olive sable]

yes it is

[sage crag]

youre samuel vanuel manuel

that's samvanmaele

[sage crag]

different guy

[olive sable]

nuh-uh

konii might need another add-on to recognize my name properly

[sage crag]

you cant tell but im still gaining addons

its just not showing up on the decimal precision

since you know

digits

[olive sable]

igpu has some weird effects on fps we still havent figured out

we arent really trying to figure it out tho

[sage crag]

"we"

StareAtYouNeuro

[tender river]

me 15345 in #gaming 30205 in #programming 1421+1365 arg thread 1342 sub only channel 1224 livestream chat 795 in ironmouse canvas 602 in nn 474 in general network 342 other forum threads and not sure where other 901 are

oo 594 in jp general

[opaque sigil]

why does clangd suddenly refuse to acknowledge any meson dependencies, i didn't even touch nixpkgs this time

stoopid machine

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

sticker AND emote

damn

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1439744591837266041/autismu.gif

[olive sable]

doesnt loop nicely but cant be bothered to fix

[olive sable]

i have 56.521 in #programming and 60.196 in neurocord as a whole

[rigid snow]

what the fuck

[olive sable]

so i'm mainly just here

[sage crag]

wrr

[olive sable]

wrrrr

[olive sable]

looks pretty good ngl. what shader you using?

i love how ive been using linux for nearly half a year, and i still manually type

bluetoothctl
devices
    >Device 84:D3:52:F2:11:64 WH-CH720N
connect 84:D3:52:F2:11:64

every single time i boot my pc

[rough bloom]

I have some things like that too but holy that's a lot to type

at least make it a script or an alias or something

[opaque sigil]

this guy

[olive sable]

the number i jsut copy paste, which is why i type the devices

[nocturne olive]

True make it a bash script or something

[sage crag]

or dont

put it in xdg autostart

presumably hyprland supports it

[olive sable]

[rough bloom]

[nocturne olive]

I guess not

[olive sable]

i do start the bluetooth daemon or whatever the hell it is on boot automatically

[sage crag]

great

what a great wayland compositor

[rough bloom]

it's fine though, apparently this is just not a compositor thing to implement

[olive sable]

but this is jsut so litle effort to do that it feels a lot more effort to program this batch thing eventho it would save me a lot of trouble later

[rough bloom]

you make your compositor call some other thing on start that then implements XDG autostart

full DEs just do this for you

[tender river]

i3-based tiling wms usually make the user define their autostart in their config

xdg autostart is pretty intrusive

[sage crag]

labwc also do

cat /etc/xdg/labwc/autostart
wlr-randr --output DP-2 --mode 1920x1080@239.759995 &
swaybg --image /home/user/Pictures/GyQ2F6PbEAAmkVQ.png &
fcitx5 & gammastep & otd-daemon &

[sick owl]

Wtf is alibaba trying to market to me

[sage crag]

Full-intelligence ...

[sick owl]

Do people fall for this stuff lmao

The only thing I've bought on there has been some STS3215 servos

[olive sable]

yes

def

otherwise they wouldnt be doing it

[tender river]

only thing me bought from alibaba was

actually not say

[olive sable]

[sick owl]

oh

Oh no I just looked at what that company does nevermind

[olive sable]

💀

[sage crag]

industrial chemicals

[tender river]

[silent cloak]

grandma

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

classic grandma and her 153cm AI intelligence

[silent cloak]

its the best way to get grandma to not bite my arm

otherwise we have to get the spray bottle

[olive sable]

[sick owl]

Oh I see what's going on here, aliexpress counts anything you scroll past as part of your browsing history

So you get all manner of bizarre crap you never asked for in their marketing emails

[sage crag]

leaf buy vat of green glowing acid

[tender river]

ye put in barrel

[sage crag]

who leaf dissolve

[rigid snow]

oh yeah it's real my guy

[sick owl]

Wait no that's the recommended section

[tender river]

intruder

[sick owl]

I'm insulted

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

potato not have hair

[olive sable]

yet

[sage crag]

threatening

[sick owl]

My entire browsing history is just servo motors and that one bizarre head thing I clicked just now from the marketing email

[olive sable]

the robot head is back

[rigid snow]

and the ai head

[sick owl]

Yeah cause I just clicked on it

[rigid snow]

"full-intelligence" did they decapitate someone for this

[sick owl]

So considering until just now you can knock off the bizarre head robot, why tf are they trying to cell me a 153cm AI intelligence scam

[olive sable]

i wonder why they would only sell the head

seems kinda weird

[rigid snow]

because these things are very modular

do NOT ask how i know

[sick owl]

I assumed it was for more innocent purposes than it actually is

It er, its meant to plug onto something else

[olive sable]

a body id hope

[rigid snow]

ye

[olive sable]

oh

oh no

[sick owl]

[olive sable]

i thought robot body

oh no

[sick owl]

Its a cfrb alright

[olive sable]

what does that mean?

cfrb

[rigid snow]

omg sam

[sick owl]

[rigid snow]

please

[olive sable]

what???

oh

[rigid snow]

at least pretend to watch

[sage crag]

i dont need anybody anybody anybody

[sick owl]

They also tried to sell me custom womens yoga pants directly next to the hair loss cream btw

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

ye i got it

im bad with acronyms

[rigid snow]

bundle

[olive sable]

never seen that acronym before in my life

[rough bloom]

how

[sick owl]

Its a neurocord staple

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

no one types out Crazy Fucking Robot Body sam

[nocturne olive]

I have this one spare 1TB NVMe drive that has to exist because it contains my EFI partition because I was stupid and didn't check where it went and now it's too late, anyone got good ideas for what to do with such little space
If it didn't have my EFI I'd probably just give it to Xoda

[olive sable]

i usually just see the gif

i dont go much outside programming chat

[sick owl]

Anyway if you don't mind alibaba trying to sell you crimes against humanity I can personally recommend these servos, the thing I actually signed up for

Very good servos for the price

Ah that's why they're trying to sell me dodgy chinese cfrbs

[sage crag]

#1 smart robot

[nocturne olive]

Right now it's sitting there uselessly

[sick owl]

Evidently alibabas userbase are after a different kind of robot to me

[sage crag]

evil clown jam

[olive sable]

i use aliexpress mostly

idk what alibaba all has

[rigid snow]

alibaba is more about buying in bulk/more expensive things

[olive sable]

well im poor so nah

[opaque sigil]

move the efi partition to another drive, problem solved

[sick owl]

Alibaba is more for business to business sales, comes straight from the manufacturers in most cases and focuses on wholesale/bulk buys

[sick owl]

Aliexpress features more random reseller shops

And is structured more like your temus and the like

Its alibaba for the consoomer

[nocturne olive]

And where would I put that when I've already put partitions on all my other ones?

[opaque sigil]

surely you can cut a gb from one of them

or less realistically

[nocturne olive]

I don't know, the only other NVMe I have is the system drive and at least something told me resizing the partitions can make it stop being bootable

[olive sable]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv9FujXb9AU
this is cool

[opaque sigil]

the efi partition can in theory live anywhere, you can put it at the very end too

[nocturne olive]

Well I kinda want it on an NVMe drive at least

[rigid snow]

at one point i had mine in between the main two

cursed

[nocturne olive]

Wah

[flint dome]

i found a box of 30 fucking floppy drives with two of them being sealed 10packs what do i do with them

[nocturne olive]

How would I even safely manage to move the EFI while being able to be sure my data and bootability is safe?

[olive sable]

nothing really, unless you have a floppy drive reader/writer

i also have like 8 sealed floppys

[flint dome]

what about scouring the pc market for old laptops or pcs with a floppy bay to run them on because it'd be funny

[opaque sigil]

you boot into a live environment, create a new partition, format and set it up to be an efi boot partition then point the boot loader to it

for specifics it's probably a good idea to follow the arch wiki or sth

[flint dome]

because fuck ebay and fuck the absolutely dogshit shipping on it (what the fuck do you mean you're charging me 900$ shipping for a ibm 5160 that costs 100$ and is put up for repair) and so im going to buy offline

[nocturne olive]

Hem
Can I not clone the EFI to the new partition? I have no clue how to install only the GRUB part of Mint

[opaque sigil]

you probably can, though there might be some extra bookkeeping you have to modify afterwards

[nocturne olive]

Well I'm clueless with GRUB
Definitely won't be doing it before subathon at least

[opaque sigil]

sounds like it's time to read up on grub then

always good to know, it's really not as scary as it might seem

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

grub

explod

[sage crag]

you just

end most insects

[rigid snow]

stupid software

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

i hate grub

[nocturne olive]

What's wrong with GRUB? It allows me to boot my system

[rigid snow]

so does anything else

[opaque sigil]

grub is way overkill for what most people need

[rigid snow]

systemd-boot

[opaque sigil]

systemd-boot doesn't let me make it pretty so it's useless

[nocturne olive]

Mint just uses GRUB

[rough bloom]

I want to try out Limine

make boot menu look fancy

[rigid snow]

why do you need to make your bootloader pretty

[rough bloom]

not need

want

[sage crag]

plymouth

[opaque sigil]

(i mainly like grub because it lets me hide all the old nixos generations)

[sage crag]

systemd-boot useless

just do efiboot

[nocturne olive]

I use GRUB because Mint uses GRUB, as simple as that

[sage crag]

smolevilcreature

yes that's because you are the least power user of linux alive

[rigid snow]

what if you need to select what to boot

[sage crag]

1 efi entry per each boot entry

[rigid snow]

inconvenient

[sage crag]

ye

[rough bloom]

should re-add that too mabe
another thing lost during The Great Migration™ (redid NixOS config from scratch to clean up a bit)

[sage crag]

i think i refactor my nixos config like

every three weeks

because i decide it sucks

[rough bloom]

ye your nixos config still small probably

[nocturne olive]

Wah

[rough bloom]

refactor still quick

[sage crag]

ye

wc -l /etc/nixos/*
  127 /etc/nixos/flake.lock
   31 /etc/nixos/flake.nix
   87 /etc/nixos/labwc.nix
  121 /etc/nixos/osu-lazer.nix
   23 /etc/nixos/plasma6.nix
   58 /etc/nixos/system.nix
   65 /etc/nixos/user.nix
  512 合計

[tender river]

wc -l (find ~/code/nix/dotfiles2 -regex '.*\\.nix') | sort

[rough bloom]

why is there so much JS

did not write

[opaque sigil]

3700 here, that's more than i thought damn

[tender river]

it very stable though not change anything since configure ereader

other than updates

[opaque sigil]

[rough bloom]

automated?

[opaque sigil]

nah

i just run update manually whenever i remember it exists and then if nixpkgs doesn't change i restore

[rough bloom]

mostly same

except I only remember that it exists around once every 1 or 2 months

[tender river]

me run update when feel like care

never

[olive sable]

i often have like "how do i install x" and its like do this and i try and it doenst work. so then i ask chatgpt and it tells me to do some command and suddenly my pc updates 600 programs

i hate it

[opaque sigil]

do yourself a favour and update your system more than twice a year on arch

[rough bloom]

ye CachyOS (and anything Arch based) is just like that I think because rolling release

everything just assumes that you have the newest version of everything else

[tender river]

and cant use arbitrary distro version like nixos

me can still use 10yo nixpkgs commit if want

not want

[olive sable]

i do updaste once in a month or so. but it takes like 20 min and it sucks

at least i can still use my pc while it happens

better than windows

fuck windows

[rough bloom]

ye me still have reference to NixOS 22.05

because unmaintained project needs ancient Nodejs

or was it GCC? not matter

[olive sable]

bred, when windows updates i have to stare at a black loading screen for 15 min with the turning swirly and the percentage. at least on linux i have firefox still open

[amber fractal]

I'm only dealing with 2 NixOS package refrences, matching the hyprland flake (pinned unstable) and the general unstable branch.

[opaque sigil]

nvidia pls i beg

make a fucking rust crate for cuda

PLEASE

anything

[sage crag]

nv nv nv

[opaque sigil]

i'm so sick of c++

actually i take that back

i don't want a rust crate

[sage crag]

https://github.com/rust-cuda/cuda-sys
🔍

[opaque sigil]

give me a zig library or sth

[sage crag]

https://github.com/Rust-GPU/Rust-CUDA

[amber fractal]

I was going to ask if it existed, seems like one does

[sage crag]

https://github.com/akhildevelops/cudazhttps://github.com/akhildevelops/cudaz

[opaque sigil]

they exist but they're all kinda shit

[sage crag]

ye seems it

[opaque sigil]

at least rust-cuda is heading into the direction of not having to externally link with the gpu code which could be nice

[rare bramble]

ye, there are couple of CUDA rust libraries but they are all pretty experimental and early stage

[tender river]

want to experiment with gpu langdev at some point

long road before that though

nuro birthday me timezone

[opaque sigil]

mojo is promising but they're completely side-stepping cuda which while useful, creates new problems when you want to interop with existing code

probably for the better

[tender river]

mojo techbro language not interest

[opaque sigil]

i just ignore all the AI stuff and treat it purely as a cuda c++ alternative

[sage crag]

borgir

[rough bloom]

[sage crag]

cuda bad

bad

need open source gpu isa

wrr

[tender river]

proprietary

[sage crag]

riscv compute cluster

[rough bloom]

ye tenstorrent does that

impossible to program

nobody uses

[sage crag]

[tender river]

if make own language ecosystem not matter

[sage crag]

ecosystem matter only after you made language

make language first

[tender river]

make language ecosystem first

then language

[sage crag]

not impossible

if everything is protocol based

can make ecosystem, make language, then make implementation

or, if idiot, make ecosystem, make implementation, then write compiler

senderp

[tender river]

need cook

[sage crag]

MiyagiCroco

croco

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

elivjam

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

it's so tiny

[sage crag]

its wrong name

autismu

[olive sable]

but it clearly says autism

[sage crag]

autismu right name

autism not right

blind?

[olive sable]

why?

explain

[sage crag]

gif name

[olive sable]

break it down for me

[sage crag]

autismu

[olive sable]

but why?

[sage crag]

that name

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-dance-dancing-break-it-down-gif-9881392746354730618

[sage crag]

why your name sam?

ElvynSerius

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

cuz you pay per letter

birthday cakes would be more expensive

[sage crag]

write name on birthday cake stupid

that what card is for

[olive sable]

i will eat as much cake as i want and with cool fireworks candles

[tall mauve]

Note to self: when training AI, it’s better to train it yourself

I am NOT repeating the same mistake again

[nocturne olive]

Wha

[tall mauve]

Do you know the short story “I have no mouth and I must scream?”

[nocturne olive]

Wha

And what does that have to do with training an AI model, which I don't even know the arch for

[golden narwhal]

any AI train by free use all internet will go crazy

is if will but when will

[olive sable]

I have no mouth and I must scream?

must be pretty dificult without a mouth

would a creature without a mouth even get thoughts like that?

[sage crag]

wrr

[olive sable]

konii's father is Ferdinand Braun

doxxed

[cosmic sphinx]

https://fixupx.com/osanseviero/status/2001704034667769978?s=20

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microgemma

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mini-miniko-minikomew-gif-1425820994898369756

Mewmote_MONKA

[olive sable]

konii was born in 1897 in strassburg

for context i guess

[sick owl]

Pretty sweet

[rigid snow]

bro wtf is this shit

[olive sable]

everything has a wrapped now

[tender river]

type wrapped in newtype

you have restricted access to

57 method

and limited to 5

[sage crag]

generated 239 novels worth of slop

[rigid snow]

ye

[sage crag]

23.9M tokens, so they are saying a novel is 100000 tokens long

[tender river]

sound about right

[rigid snow]

@gok is ithiisdh thurthiue

[tender river]

100000 words

[sage crag]

token usually word part though

[tender river]

common word one token

[sage crag]

true

[tender river]

maybe turn to like 60-80k words

[sage crag]

me think 75k reasonable

most novel writing guide say 80k good length for most fiction

below 60k too short for novel

and >120k too long

so i guess reasonable

but also

that depressing

[tender river]

how many novel me write on discord

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

it say token routed so input too, i didn't generate 24m tokens

[sage crag]

STT The Lord of the Rings series Word Count
1 The Hobbit 95,022
2 The Fellowship of the Ring 177,227
3 The Two Towers 143,436
4 The Return of the King 134,462
Total 550,147

[tender river]

40k neurocord messages in 2025
maybe 5 token per message
2 novels

[sage crag]

i see why my perspective was skewed

[sage crag]

check discord wrapped

[tender river]

not have

[sage crag]

i had

122k messages this year

[sage crag]

OhISee

[sage crag]

probably average of 5 word or so

[tender river]

me mostly only chat here and one other server anyway

[sage crag]

i wrote lotr this year

[tender river]

other than that maybe like 5-10k assorted messages

[rigid snow]

lotr:
rrr rrr rrr rrrr rrr rr rr rrr

[tender river]

lotrrr

[sage crag]

wrr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEhuGPXxRrA
me found song, forgot what it was called

[tender river]

it called

curses

[rigid snow]

if you leard to read

[sage crag]

ye found it now

dumleaf

[tender river]

[rigid snow]

you could read what it called