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olive sable
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i dont like going to beach ngl. i like clothes

tender river
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then try in vietnam machine too bad too FOCUS locals played just fine so maybe technique could be better

sage crag
sage crag
# sage crag

southend is a london borough you can actually catch the train here

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somehow

tender river
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original

sage crag
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there's a little trolley that goes to the end of the pier

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the longest pier in the world

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for some reason

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1.3 mile long pier

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2 km

olive sable
tender river
olive sable
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why you need so much pier?

sage crag
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at the end of the pier there are

olive sable
sage crag
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toilets and a restaurant and a gift centre

sage crag
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terrible

sage crag
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i walked up and down the pier i didnt take the trolley/train thing

olive sable
sage crag
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why is your beach worse

olive sable
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this is not the tourist beach place

tender river
olive sable
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you're not even allowed to swim there i think

sage crag
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you cant swim too far out of southend either

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there's a sunk ww2 ship

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filled with bombs

sage crag
olive sable
tender river
sage crag
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in the UK im pretty sure the only natural forests left are in scotland

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the rest of them are replants

tender river
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oh i guess you never went skiing/skateboarding NeurOhISee

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not skate vedalUUH

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snow

olive sable
sage crag
olive sable
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appartments for the rich people

sage crag
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when i was younger and it still snowed

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but uuh

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not ski

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not snowbaord

tender river
sick owl
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We actually do fairly well, albeit slightly below the European average

olive sable
tender river
sick owl
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Pretty grim that this is actually a decent stat against the global average

tender river
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but not on river

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down a snowy hill

sick owl
tender river
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and it went so fast it got past the track end and into the forest neurowheeze

tender river
olive sable
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sounds dangerous

olive sable
olive sable
olive sable
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there are parts of forest that havent been replanted, but everything is being managed by humans and trees are getting cut down everywhere for wood and such

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none of it is left alone by humans

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23% of the country is still forest tho so idk if its that bad

sick owl
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I mean its 13% in the UK so you guys are doing well, although part of that is big old moors and the like bringing the average down

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  • high population density of course
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It was 7% in 1965 which is crazy to think about

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War took its toll on the woodlands

olive sable
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80% of the forest is all in the southern part of the country cuz the ardennes

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and north has worse soil for trees

olive sable
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north also just has more industrialization

sick owl
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The terrain naturally provides some protection for forests down there I imagine

olive sable
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ye

sick owl
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Lots of it isn't really practical to build on

olive sable
rigid snow
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i turned on the ai summaries thing with a [discord tos violation] and 4/35 topics are programming related

olive sable
rigid snow
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congrats for the most on topic channel in neurocord

sick owl
olive sable
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being off-topic is standart programming behaviour

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as much as the mods may not like that truth

rigid snow
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31/42 for nn for comparison

olive sable
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ye but what even is "ontopic" for nn?

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neuro talk?

rigid snow
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neuro evil vedal

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everything related

olive sable
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fair enouh

tender river
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can ask mods to make a programming channel SMILE

olive sable
tender river
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this just

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#nerd-genchat

rigid snow
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i NOT nerd

olive sable
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lets get the venndiagram

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lets see

rigid snow
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im none of this

olive sable
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you have 20K messages in neurocord, and you make llms

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im counting at least geek

rigid snow
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i don't make llms

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my only experience with that is

olive sable
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hmm

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actually

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what do you do?

rigid snow
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i tried to finetune a 1b model on rap lyrics
the result was complete garbage and nonsense

olive sable
rigid snow
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that all my llm experience

olive sable
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then what do you program?

nocturne olive
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Meanwhile me, a vocal synthesist

rigid snow
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web dev

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mostly

olive sable
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hmm

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im still counting it

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geek

rigid snow
nocturne olive
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What are you sillying by the way?

olive sable
nocturne olive
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Colors

olive sable
rigid snow
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yeee

tender river
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actual on topic message

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Weโ€™re postponing the announced billing change for self-hosted GitHub Actions. The 39% price reduction for hosted runners will continue as planned (on January 1)
๏ธ€๏ธ€
๏ธ€๏ธ€We missed the opportunity to gather feedback from the community ahead of this move. That's a huge L. We'll learn and do better in the future.
๏ธ€๏ธ€
๏ธ€๏ธ€Actions is critical infrastructure for millions of developers and we're committed to making it a worldโ€‘class compute product. Although we gave away 11.5 billion build minutes (~$184 million) to support OSS last year, Actions itself is not free. There are real, web-scale costs associated with the service and behind the control plane (for logs, artifacts, caching, redis, egress, engineering, support, etc) for both hosted and self-hosted runners. We eventually need to find a way to price it properly while also partnering and fostering the rest of the ecosystem. However, we clearly missed some steps here, and so weโ€™re correcting course.โ€ฆ

nocturne olive
rigid snow
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w

olive sable
nocturne olive
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Possibly

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And what do I do with that information?

olive sable
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idk

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you cand o what you want with it

olive sable
tender river
olive sable
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๐Ÿ‡ฑ

tender river
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please shut up and never speak again, senior vice president of github jared palmer

sick owl
olive sable
tender river
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or

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are you

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NOT konii -> YES jared palmer

olive sable
rigid snow
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As Minecraft 26.1-snapshot-1 comes out, we would like to pay our respects to 3 things we cherished deeply.
๏ธ€๏ธ€
๏ธ€๏ธ€R.I.P. pretending you're smart b/c you know what 25w51a means
๏ธ€๏ธ€R.I.P. "when Minecraft 2.0" jokes
๏ธ€๏ธ€R.I.P. Yarn mappings (still never going to get used to ResourceLocation)

**๐Ÿ’ฌ 13โ€‚๐Ÿ” 36โ€‚โค๏ธ 978โ€‚๐Ÿ‘๏ธ 20.6Kโ€‚**

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rip indeed

nocturne olive
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No more mappings is funny, since the game has no obfuscation for future releases meaning they're not really needed

rigid snow
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not future releases. 26.1-snapshot-1 is out

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we already here

olive sable
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RYTpKA8bkM
clickbait title but it was pretty interesting

Vex

AMD seems like they are starting to take Ray Tracing seriously now. Nvidia has been on top of it for a while in terms of performance and even making special feature like Ray Reconstruction, which improve the image quality. NOW, AMD has come out with better performance and Ray Regeneration. How does it all stack up??

==JOIN THE DISCORD!==
https...

โ–ถ Play video
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i love how black ops 7 asked how fun the match was after he ran the in-game benchmark KEKW

amber fractal
olive sable
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nerd pepePoint

amber fractal
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(I'm backreading because I tried to download the neuro autism gif and it failed so I'm going back for it)

olive sable
amber fractal
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I just found your message neurOMEGALUL

olive sable
amber fractal
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of the the gif earlier saying it took forever to download

olive sable
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ah

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ye

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its 16MB

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and discord is weird

amber fractal
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this time it is download complete neuroHypers

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instead of unsucessful download

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I'm curious... PauseSama

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It's going to take a bit of work to make that a sticker

olive sable
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too large i think ye

amber fractal
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512kb limit for a 16MB file evilDeadge

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As my usual rules go, I might as well reconstuct the clip first

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Autism text was the easy part, found the correct burning text effect

olive sable
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i think you could start by making it do less loops in one iteration of the gif

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she waves her hands up and down multiple times for each time it plays i mean

amber fractal
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stap giving me PNG

amber fractal
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Step one has been done

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The tougher part is going to be finding the source clip, gonna have to scan the entire 3d debut vod for it

fast pagoda
amber fractal
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the first result for it is not the same, not crunchy enough to match

fast pagoda
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Avif is tiny

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It's just av1

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Image animated

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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This is so sad Alexa please play neurosama LIFE

olive sable
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thats a gif

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not avif

amber fractal
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I usually like to reconstuct GIFs if I am trying to convert into stickers

fast pagoda
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Yeah I just saved what you send just now I wasn't trying to demonstrate it heh

olive sable
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ah

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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Idk if this will work because I'm on phone

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Fuck

olive sable
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image

silent cloak
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So sad

fast pagoda
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That's what I thought might happen

amber fractal
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crunchy background over there

silent cloak
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Alex play Neurosama covers

amber fractal
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we love gif compression

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I honestly have an idea to get the size down, but it's going to require a lot of things to go right

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which in my case means it isn't happening

silent cloak
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Nothing ever happens

amber fractal
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Doing a superbox here, except this is VOD and theirfore compressed

fast pagoda
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5 megs for webp

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god dammit it was literally animated IN the message as i sent this

silent cloak
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Bloat the gif to max nitro size

amber fractal
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Yeah, the only way we are getting this lower is to cut down on runtime. Which is why I was planning on remaking the gif

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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nah im doing some ffmpegs to avifs in varying quality and keeping it sticker reso

silent cloak
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Yummy bandwidth

fast pagoda
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these arent animated IN discord tho

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that's annoying as shit

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they ARE animated

olive sable
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i think make sure its 320x320 to lower size first

fast pagoda
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discord seems to not support the animation in avif tho

olive sable
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it does i think

fast pagoda
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it cant because i am staring at these still animated

amber fractal
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I can see it here

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discord just doesn't like to animate on upload

olive sable
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its animated for me

fast pagoda
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i have it as 704x704 in an avif and it's 554kb here

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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there now it's animated hgere

olive sable
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it will need to be 320x320 or disocrd will downscale it themselves

fast pagoda
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ah i see

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one sec

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ill get it tiny then

olive sable
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so do that first instead of lowering quality in other ways

amber fractal
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nah, your hitting file limit first. Just denied otherwise

olive sable
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512kb ye

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but to lower file size do the resolution down

amber fractal
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no nitro to increase that sticker limit ellie_noo

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I know it is 10mb here

fast pagoda
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201kb for lower qual

olive sable
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uh

fast pagoda
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285kb for higher

tender river
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@sage crag vedalCry this wikihow illustration

fast pagoda
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my file size limit is like 500 mb

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or it was last time i checked

olive sable
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which one is the high quality one?

amber fractal
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limit

fast pagoda
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the only difference is crf50 vs 45

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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the crf50 is lower qual that

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is 201kb

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crf45 is 276kb

amber fractal
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let me make sure this uploads

tender river
fast pagoda
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if i am questioning the egg

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it's bad

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that's my rule

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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F

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i can do webp maybe it supports that

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it'll be a bit bigger tho

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i think maybe not too badly

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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what the fug discord

amber fractal
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webp is literally being used for embeds as well

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this is a scam

fast pagoda
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right like i swear they shoudl support webp

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they just dont wanna

amber fractal
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alright, APNG or GIF

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we are so cooked

tender river
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apng very bulky FOCUS

olive sable
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seems like i can only do avif for emojis

tender river
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last i checked

fast pagoda
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i got webp down to 501 with like quality 27

tender river
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not sure how json got there

amber fractal
tender river
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but emoji uploader had it in allowed file types

fast pagoda
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we out here w/ jsonmoji

olive sable
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need gif or apng or whatever for sticker tho

fast pagoda
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yea im seeing whta i can do

amber fractal
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needs to be a sticker tho, emoji is just too smol

olive sable
fast pagoda
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apng is gonna be dummy thicc i think

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but so is gif

amber fractal
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Alrighty, VOD downloaded

olive sable
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bro is reverse engineering the gif

amber fractal
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so now I get the fun time of hunting the frames down

amber fractal
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looks at [FRICK YOU]

fast pagoda
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gif to get it below 512 i had to reduce to 4 fps lmfao

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at 320 res

olive sable
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jsut do less loops

fast pagoda
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yea i can reduce the length

olive sable
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you're still doing the full file with 9 arm flops

fast pagoda
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i wanted it to be full if possible

patent shard
fast pagoda
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wtf

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discord

olive sable
fast pagoda
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APNG doesnt get below 2 mb even at 4fps LMAO

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it's 2.5 mb

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at 4 fps with the full length

tender river
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yee webp much better FOCUS

fast pagoda
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avif is boss

patent shard
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webp sucks for animated files
avif or h.264 or vp9 are good (I especially like vp9 and avif since it supports transparency)

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but stickers, alas... limited choices

fast pagoda
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avif is full res full length easily under the size limit

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1/4th the length instead of 1/4th the fps = 489kb

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this is gif

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see if it takes this one ig

olive sable
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hmm its good, the loop is a bit choppy tho

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its free labour so i cant complain tho

fast pagoda
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yeah i literally did not even check what that looked like, i just ran ffmpeg with a split to get exactly 1/4th length since i knew that amount of frames would be under limit

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and then i saw her hands were at least vaguely in place for the loop

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so that's good

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it's just her head and the background obv

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only reason the original doesnt feel choppy is the length anyways

olive sable
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true

fast pagoda
olive sable
fast pagoda
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course emote accepted avif no problem

olive sable
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discord is weird

fast pagoda
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i literally had to make this emote

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with avif

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to associate the sticker

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which would not allow the same file avif to be used

olive sable
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emote is also only 256kb so i had to use the worse quaity one

fast pagoda
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yeah i used the 201

olive sable
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ye same

fast pagoda
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but even that quality is better than gif's

amber fractal
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This is the reason I'm reconstucting the GIF, so we don't have to go off of the badly compressed GIF

fast pagoda
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it's probably still gonna be an issue

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gif is just oldge

olive sable
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at the end of the gif, the camera stopped moving.
so use that to take a single arm flail out of and make that into a loop

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only 1 arm flail at 320x320 should already be good for file size

fast pagoda
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yea lemme try to trim just a bit more

silent cloak
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are u guys still struggling with using the gif format

olive sable
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we're trying to improve it

silent cloak
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lmao

fast pagoda
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gif is just massive

silent cloak
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tf is the size ug looking for

fast pagoda
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various lengths

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under 512

olive sable
amber fractal
silent cloak
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wheres the original

amber fractal
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this really is a Autism moment

fast pagoda
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hahaha

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this is the avif full length same size

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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original gif

silent cloak
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ty

olive sable
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camera doesnt move there

fast pagoda
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yeah instead of starting from the front

amber fractal
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I'm down to the first part of stream, somewhere

silent cloak
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ill take a look tomorrow

fast pagoda
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last 15/14/13/12 frames

amber fractal
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It's going to be done one way or another tomorrow

fast pagoda
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1st one is good

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good-er

olive sable
fast pagoda
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this looks really bad with no context maybe

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KEK

olive sable
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the mods are gonna gave a crisis when they see this

fast pagoda
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lmao 2 frames is pic

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epic

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op

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that's 1

amber fractal
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The gif explains what is happening here

copper urchin
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Hi

amber fractal
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oh god damn it, I need to remeber not to be on battery power then doing heavy tasks

fast pagoda
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ffmpeg go brr

fast pagoda
copper urchin
olive sable
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#autism

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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oh

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kdenlive is like

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weirdly heavy

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last time i ran it

amber fractal
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but it is also being transcoded, so partial points

fast pagoda
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last time i used kden it was bogging hard and i ended up just downloading davinci resolve

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for seeking i'd probably just be rolling around in like vlc or something of that sort

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DRAGON player or whatever your prefered one is

amber fractal
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A sane person would, but I'm just cutting sections it is not contained in so I can just export when I'm done.

fast pagoda
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id say losslesscut is your best bet for that

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for JUST that

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that's what i use for quicc trimmies

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but it's also wonky sometimes

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classic

amber fractal
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At this point I'm too far invested

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I'll make sure to use it next time

fast pagoda
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there's som shitty gnome app that video trimming ultra simply without having to ffmpeg cli

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forgor what it's called

silent cloak
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extract the image sequence

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optimize each frame

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shove it back together

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eZ

fast pagoda
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that's what ffmpeg does basically anyways

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think it might be this

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crazy name

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never would've guessed

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sooooo simple

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so good

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this guy is based

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too bad it's gnome related

olive sable
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everytihng always goes back to linux distros

fast pagoda
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gnome isnt a distro it's a plague

amber fractal
fast pagoda
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yes

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do that

silent cloak
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send it back to the garden

fast pagoda
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destroy the gnomes

olive sable
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Back in Gimmelshtump in the days of my youth, the Doofenshmirtzs' were a proud family. But those were lean times for my father and our beloved lawn gnome was repossessed. Who would protect our zatzenfruit garden from witches spells and wood trolls? From a tender age, my father decided that it would be me. While the other children played Kick-the-Schtumpel and ate Doonkelberries, I would stand for hours. All through the cold night as the Spitzenhounds howled, my only companion was the moon. And my neighbor Kenny. And since my lawn gnome was taken away from me, I will destroy every lawn gnome in the entire Tri-State Area!

rough bloom
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valid

fast pagoda
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gnome mealtime

olive sable
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actual epilepsy warning needed

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and i dont even have epilepsy

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i think

silent cloak
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i think its broken

fast pagoda
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it has like 1 frame of something

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assumed it was a jumpscare

olive sable
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it says something allong the lines of "something went wrong" or whatever

silent cloak
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its gnome

amber fractal
silent cloak
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its one of the gnome errors i think

fast pagoda
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classic human movement there neuro you're blending in

rigid snow
olive sable
amber fractal
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I did notice that as well

olive sable
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the one we're using goes vertical

silent cloak
olive sable
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NeuroDown chay has been typing for like 5 minuts now

amber fractal
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Back to the grind for the other one

fast pagoda
# rigid snow

AI summaries faithfully attempting to summarize a conversation full of sarcasm and irony and metaphor are honestly the best thing to come out of AI

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they do their best

silent cloak
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i love those

fast pagoda
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my phone has started doing it to notifications

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and i left it on because they're funny

tender river
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oh getting a uk visa was its whole journey neuro3
i delayed it until like a month before the live, at that point my parents said its probably too late (i also needed to have my passport shortly after the live so i couldnt just gamble), then a week or two later i looked up processing times online and realized theres still a chance i might make it and even if i dont i should at least get my passport back in time, so at like 6am i went to a different city to submit my visa application, realized i didnt have some required documents and didnt have any english-translated versions, i didnt have my laptop so i had to ask my dad for the scans and translations (at night SMILE), but by morning it was already too late for same day appointment so i had to stay another night, on the third day i finally managed to submit the application
2 days before the live (technically 3 but at the end of the workday) they said they made a decision and i could get my passport back, so i packed my backpack hoping the decision was positive, and indeed it was so i flew to london straight from the visa center city rather than from home city neuro3 arrived on the day of the live
that felt super lucky

fast pagoda
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wwait this is sick

silent cloak
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ones like these i love

fast pagoda
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amazing

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yeah i got a trial of google home premium or whatever when i got this phone and it was attempting to summarize like

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me walking outside in my underwear to get the mail when nobody was looking

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and my cat walking by

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and it was attempting to not say that basically

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those were great

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imagine not doing a boxers dash to the mailbox

silent cloak
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i have a really funny one but i cant send it i dont think

fast pagoda
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i have a video of me still from back in high school of me diving into a frozen lake in just some briefs, that was a cold experience, crazy girlfriend trhought it would be funny so i did it glueless at least i got video from it

silent cloak
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sent u the vid

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its a whole compilation

fast pagoda
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i had my audio set to my sonos like

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entier house

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and that notification sound

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was so fucking loud

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i had it set way high for some reason

olive sable
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afyun, have you ever thought about wearing pants?

fast pagoda
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nope

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im not wearing pants rn ngl

olive sable
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well there's your issue

fast pagoda
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i mean i have boxer briefs on it's not like i'm goin buckwild over here

olive sable
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im in pyjamas all day evilShrug
i think thats at least marginally better

silent cloak
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anyone of us could be sitting on the computer with nothing on and no one would know

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so its best to not question or think about it

olive sable
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stop

fast pagoda
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i assume everyone is

olive sable
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thats weird to think about

silent cloak
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exactly

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lmao

olive sable
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id rather not think about that

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this is a cognitohazard

silent cloak
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its a infohazard

fast pagoda
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justr imagine the WoW player guy from south park

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but

silent cloak
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lmaoooo

fast pagoda
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nothing on

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that's everyone

olive sable
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noooo

rigid snow
fast pagoda
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im sorry to hear that

rigid snow
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because why not

olive sable
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im always in pyjamas or clothes pretty much

rigid snow
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same

fast pagoda
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i wear pants all day at work ya know

olive sable
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i like being clothed

silent cloak
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remember someone here could be lying

olive sable
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i dont mind them lying tbh. makes me keep a more positive image of them

rigid snow
olive sable
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this is a pretty weird conversation. lets move on

rigid snow
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ye i was the most normal congrats

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and sam

fast pagoda
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the ai tiptoeing around that

amber fractal
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real

fast pagoda
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i find it no weirder than programming socks in general but hey i do generally have like shorts on at home tbh, i just found it funny that you brought it up, and it's because i literally got out of bed to trim gifs so

olive sable
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going outside without pants is just asking to get ticks

fast pagoda
#

my mail is like 1 foot from door

amber fractal
#

I'm just going to exist and not get caught in any of these summeries glueless

rough bloom
olive sable
#

B plot convo happenign too

fast pagoda
#

i am so glad i dont have to worry about visas for the most part

#

that whole process sounds awful

silent cloak
#

many horror stories from streamers

fast pagoda
#

i hear that all the time but i kinda always assumed that's due to them being streamers

amber fractal
#

I can't speak from personal experince, but my sibling had to deal with it going to japan then soon china

olive sable
#

today has been the weirdest day in #programming of the whole season so far

fast pagoda
#

and therefore as a rule always doing everything the last possible second and wrong

silent cloak
#

lmao

rigid snow
silent cloak
#

na a lot of those places just screw everyone over

olive sable
#

i went when it was still in eu so i wouldn't know

silent cloak
#

if they dont like u thats enough reason for them to usually deny u

fast pagoda
#

japan i almost died handling covid stuff which in retrospect was super simple

#

but that's the closest thing i've ever had to get to having a visa anyways

amber fractal
fast pagoda
#

yeah no thanks

silent cloak
#

which is crazy

fast pagoda
#

i start sweating at US immigration intake w/e but the citizen one where they literally don't care

tender river
#

vedalEvilGiggle me lied at border control not say which one

fast pagoda
#

used to go in and out of canadia on the MI Driver's license and that was super chill tho

#

they'd always ask us when we went over at 19 and came back with hehe canada 19 drinking age things

#

and we were like haha no never :^)

#

never checked

#

just heading over to toronto for some poutine sir

sick owl
fast pagoda
#

wtf

sick owl
#

He probably had some especially nasty enemies in the energy industry right?

#

Can't help but see that as suspicious

silent cloak
#

i was about to say

fast pagoda
#

AT his apartment

#

doesnt sound random

silent cloak
#

its up there with cancer researches getting killed suspiciously

#

very sus

fast pagoda
#

inb4 idiot who doesnt know fusion vs fission

#

LE RADIOTON

rigid snow
#

"more like cannabis"

fast pagoda
#

just a large enjoyer of coffee

sick owl
fast pagoda
#

big potat hiding the cure

sick owl
fast pagoda
#

at least in the US they'd still make hella bank on a cure

sick owl
#

You actually have a lot of scary people with a bone to pick with you in his position

silent cloak
sick owl
#

Its just not something you normally consider

fast pagoda
#

just big pants gonna come take me out

#

after earlier

silent cloak
#

big Gnome is gonna take u out

olive sable
fast pagoda
#

big gnome is already taking me out

sick owl
#

I think its one of those cases where the range of plausible scenarios is just so huge people are gonna run away with it

fast pagoda
#

with their worthless 'contributions' to wayland development

sick owl
#

I'm not a tinfoil hat type but the guys death is suspicious, that said it could just as easily be a disgruntled student or loon he had an argument with

#

We'll likely never know

silent cloak
fast pagoda
#

true

sick owl
fast pagoda
#

oh yeah you like gnome tweaks

sick owl
#

Correct

fast pagoda
#

why is that even a thing hmmm

#

because gnomed sucks

#

theyre basic things

silent cloak
fast pagoda
#

gnome is apple osnix

sick owl
#

Okay lowkey I do regret going with gnome a little but I cba to rebase lol

silent cloak
fast pagoda
#

home folder in root fs

silent cloak
#

atleast they get along

fast pagoda
#

dont let your friends be this guy

rigid snow
sick owl
#

I do like how you hit one button and have system wide search or tiles in gnome

fast pagoda
#

i mean i dont feel so strongly about it that i would devolve to actually attacking someone for using it lol, i just dont like it myself and like to exaggerate

fast pagoda
silent cloak
#

install it on a friends computer

#

so u can gnome them

olive sable
#

i dont actually care much about kde vs gnome

#

i have no clue what im even using

fast pagoda
#

i have tried to use gnome, often when i go to debian or something i'll give gnome another go

#

and it's always like

amber fractal
fast pagoda
#

where the fuck is the goddamn <basic functionality>

#

and then it's like oh yeah you have to mod ur gnome bro

#

????????????

olive sable
#

i think im on kde, i have no clue

tender river
#

hyprland

fast pagoda
#

WINDOWS has more configuration

rigid snow
#

that's insane bruh

fast pagoda
#

hyprland is its own thing

silent cloak
#

hyper gnome

fast pagoda
#

tbf i think he literally has only ever used hyprland

#

like that was install #1 and he's stuck with it or very close to that

olive sable
#

i googled what cachyos uses and it said kde but i guess its wrong Shruge

fast pagoda
#

slopmode?

olive sable
#

im mixing up terms

fast pagoda
#

oh

rigid snow
#

it's its own thing as was already said

fast pagoda
#

cachy uses kde

#

by default

#

but you can config when you install

olive sable
#

ah

fast pagoda
#

it will let you use a bunch of different ones

#

kde is default

olive sable
#

i see

fast pagoda
#

you can run gnome cachy if you want

olive sable
#

nah

#

i odnt want

fast pagoda
#

but why you would, that's another question

#

i wanted to run sway but it never liked my config (prob nvidia lule)

amber fractal
fast pagoda
#

screenshots here if you're curious the general default look of each at least on cachy

#

i miss qtile a bit, used that for a while as well as openbox which i also liked

rigid snow
#

openbox

#

haven't heard that in a whiiile

opaque sigil
#

niri seems neat

fast pagoda
#

i have used niri and cosmic on my laptop at varying times

#

niri i've only tried because of brodie

#

but it was neat

#

i still dont like enforced tiling even if it's disguised as scrolling

#

i know you can have free floating windows in niri as well

#

cosmic is nice switching on the fly also

amber fractal
#

I did swap off hyprland for a bit to experiment, but lack of protocol support brought me back to hyprland

fast pagoda
#

what kind of protocol support

#

i3 was neat when i was using archcraft lol

rigid snow
#

bro what

amber fractal
#

was some other tiler, I forget the name

fast pagoda
#

hyprland is like the most obtuse environment to me

amber fractal
#

that's just the systemd hater name for Gnome

olive sable
fast pagoda
#

like you can get used to hyprland for sure and then i feel like it'd be hard to swap off it probably

#

but that's a general thing with most de

olive sable
#

i like using my keyboard

fast pagoda
#

you can use your keyboard all the same in like any de

#

it will just have different defaults

#

but i get it

amber fractal
#

I liked the enviroment, being able to swap from tiling to scrolling and others. Just had trouble with apps and such.

fast pagoda
#

qtile is fun since it's python based

#

kinda

amber fractal
#

python configuration yeah

fast pagoda
#

i liked qtile's defaults, i liked cosmic's defaults, i like kde defaults, all of them feel pretty normal to me

#

hyprland has very strange choices

#

i knwo you can change them but damn son

#

omarchy defaults w/ hyprland made more sense than ootb hypr lol

amber fractal
fast pagoda
#

who has that

glad path
#

i thought this was the vscode logo lmfao

fast pagoda
#

that's activities for me

amber fractal
#

that is quit the app for me

opaque sigil
#

that's ctrl q enub

rigid snow
olive sable
fast pagoda
#

ctrl W is quit for me

olive sable
#

win+d is open app list to launch something. win+enter is terminal fish, win+e is file explorer

rigid snow
#

terminal fish

olive sable
#

fish

fast pagoda
#

win e is kde default exploder

olive sable
#

its temrinal

rough bloom
rigid snow
#

fish is a shell

#

not terminal

fast pagoda
#

fish is a shell

olive sable
#

dont care

fast pagoda
amber fractal
#

I need to redo my binds, I get confused by them

olive sable
amber fractal
#

I don't have one currently

olive sable
#

my pc has fish, its terminal Minamhm

fast pagoda
#

kde uses dolphin default but you can install whatever you want as usual

#

you are running it in some other terminal

#

like i use zsh in wezterm or fish in wezterm normally

amber fractal
#

kitty fish here

rigid snow
fast pagoda
#

gotta go visit my ffish in the ICU

olive sable
#

fish

fast pagoda
#

what is the executable called if you need to close the entire window

olive sable
#

uh

#

what do you mean?

fast pagoda
#

it's not fish

rigid snow
#

xterm neuroTroll

olive sable
#

i dont get what he means

fast pagoda
#

like if you open btop and look to pkill it in the list

rigid snow
#

the terminal emulator

fast pagoda
#

or just run ps

olive sable
#

i open fish and type pkill

fast pagoda
#

๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

olive sable
#

or i do win+q

rigid snow
#

on windows for example it's WindowsTerminal.exe

olive sable
#

that does not help

#

i still have no clue what you're talking baout

rigid snow
#

what terminal do you use

olive sable
#

fish

rigid snow
#

is the question

fast pagoda
#

brotha

rigid snow
#

that's a shell

fast pagoda
#

fish cannot render itself

#

it does not have the ability to

#

so there's another executable being launched when you hit your fish shortcut

#

that fish is running inside

#

that's the terminal

rigid snow
#

crazy to see
neuro7 minecraft 2 jokes

warped narwhal
#

Minecraft 26?

rigid snow
#

ye it's the new versioning system

warped narwhal
#

What happened to Minecraft 2 through 25?

fast pagoda
#

fish, but as you can see it's running in konsole, konsole is the terminal

amber fractal
tender river
# warped narwhal Minecraft 26?
Minecraft Wiki

26.1 is an upcoming game drop to Java Edition with no set release date.
This is the first Java Edition release version to use the new version format announced in December 2025. It is also the first Java Edition release version to be fully unobfuscated without any accompanying obfuscated variant, and it will be the first version that requires Jav...

fast pagoda
#

new version format

tender river
#

1.21.11 -> 26.1

fast pagoda
#

we'll start with 26.1

#

fuck you mojang

rigid snow
#

it's year.featuredrop.patch

fast pagoda
#

i mean i guess it's basically distro naming

#

yeah

rigid snow
#

1st feature drop

#

of the year

fast pagoda
#

im on mc 24.04

#

cna i join ur serberv

#

i have backpatches bro security fixes bro cmon3

#

bedrock = mc LTS

#

poop! os (this was a typo but i laugh so im leaving it) is going to roll out yung pop 24.04 or something but in 2026

#

since theyve missed this whole year

#

or 25.10 or something not 24.04

olive sable
#

im looking at my kewybinds now, and there are a bunch of things i didnt know existed

#

win+space does the same thing as win+d apparently

fast pagoda
#

alt + space is krunner for me but that's the closest keybind to super+space i think

olive sable
#

bindd = $mainMod, RETURN, Opens your preferred terminal emulator ($terminal), exec, $terminal $terminal Minamhm
still have no clue what terminal that is

fast pagoda
#

i think windows powertoys has their little runner thing on alt+space too

#

it should say on the title of the window

#

i know hyprland doesn thave that by default

#

or something

olive sable
#

$terminal = alacritty

fast pagoda
#

but

olive sable
#

huh

fast pagoda
#

that checks out

#

alacritty failed my terminal test too hard to use it

#

wezterm was the only one that did it like perfectly like a year ago so surely nothing has changed whatsoever

amber fractal
#

kill me

fast pagoda
#

konsole does well now it seems

warped narwhal
#

Must be new cause yazi didn't show sixel images in konsole for me recently

fast pagoda
#

im swapped to my other pc and it's on debian so i'd imagine it's not a bleeding edge thing for this case

#

it is debian 13 tho

warped narwhal
#

Also what is the difference between "this is double underline" and "this is also double underline"

fast pagoda
#

different ways to display

#
#!/bin/sh

echo "# 24-bit (true-color)"
# based on: https://gist.github.com/XVilka/8346728
term_cols="$(tput cols || echo 80)"
cols=$(echo "2^((l($term_cols)/l(2))-1)" | bc -l 2> /dev/null)
rows=$(( cols / 2 ))
awk -v cols="$cols" -v rows="$rows" 'BEGIN{
    s="  ";
    m=cols+rows;
    for (row = 0; row<rows; row++) {
      for (col = 0; col<cols; col++) {
          i = row+col;
          r = 255-(i*255/m);
          g = (i*510/m);
          b = (i*255/m);
          if (g>255) g = 510-g;
          printf "\033[48;2;%d;%d;%dm", r,g,b;
          printf "\033[38;2;%d;%d;%dm", 255-r,255-g,255-b;
          printf "%s\033[0m", substr(s,(col+row)%2+1,1);
      }
      printf "\n";
    }
    printf "\n\n";
}'

echo "# text decorations"
printf '\e[1mbold\e[22m\n'
printf '\e[2mdim\e[22m\n'
printf '\e[3mitalic\e[23m\n'
printf '\e[4munderline\e[24m\n'
printf '\e[4:1mthis is also underline\e[24m\n'
printf '\e[21mdouble underline\e[24m\n'
printf '\e[4:2mthis is also double underline\e[24m\n'
printf '\e[4:3mcurly underline\e[24m\n'
printf '\e[58;5;10;4mcolored underline\e[59;24m\n'
printf '\e[5mblink\e[25m\n'
printf '\e[7mreverse\e[27m\n'
printf '\e[8minvisible\e[28m <- invisible (but copy-pasteable)\n'
printf '\e[9mstrikethrough\e[29m\n'
printf '\e[53moverline\e[55m\n'
echo

echo "# magic string (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode#Web)"
echo "รฉ ฮ” ะ™ ืง ู… เน— ใ‚ ๅถ ่‘‰ ๋ง"
echo

echo "# emojis"
echo "๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ฑ๐Ÿ˜ต"
echo

echo "# right-to-left ('w' symbol should be at right side)"
echo "ืฉืจื”"
echo

echo "# sixel graphics"
printf '\eP0;0;0q"1;1;64;64#0;2;0;0;0#1;2;100;100;100#1~{wo_!11?@FN^!34~^NB
@?_ow{~$#0?BFN^!11~}wo_!34?_o{}~^NFB-#1!5~}{o_!12?BF^!25~^NB@??ow{!6~$#0!5?
@BN^!12~{w_!25?_o{}~~NFB-#1!10~}w_!12?@BN^!15~^NFB@?_w{}!10~$#0!10?@F^!12~}
{o_!15?_ow{}~^FB@-#1!14~}{o_!11?@BF^!7~^FB??_ow}!15~$#0!14?@BN^!11~}{w_!7?_
w{~~^NF@-#1!18~}{wo!11?_r^FB@??ow}!20~$#0!18?@BFN!11~^K_w{}~~NF@-#1!23~M!4?
_oWMF@!6?BN^!21~$#0!23?p!4~^Nfpw}!6~{o_-#1!18~^NB@?_ow{}~wo!12?@BFN!17~$#0!
18?_o{}~^NFB@?FN!12~}{wo-#1!13~^NB@??_w{}!9~}{w_!12?BFN^!12~$#0!13?_o{}~~^F
B@!9?@BF^!12~{wo_-#1!8~^NFB@?_w{}!19~{wo_!11?@BN^!8~$#0!8?_ow{}~^FB@!19?BFN
^!11~}{o_-#1!4~^NB@?_ow{!28~}{o_!12?BF^!4~$#0!4?_o{}~^NFB!28?@BN^!12~{w_-#1
NB@???GM!38NMG!13?@BN$#0?KMNNNF@!38?@F!13NMK-\e\'
amber fractal
fast pagoda
#

average kdenlivemoment

#

select what you need and pray to tech jesus it lets you ctrl c it into something functional

warped narwhal
#

Termux fails abysmally

amber fractal
#

turned it into a sequence and now I can properly edit it

fast pagoda
#

jesus

#

lol that's one of the worse results

#

sakura failed sixel RIP

#

rio fails p hard but not as bad as termux

warped narwhal
#

How does alacrity do?

fast pagoda
#

ill tell ya in a sec

amber fractal
olive sable
#

ah yes

#

succulent

fast pagoda
#

blinking fail, no sixel, fails double underline and overline in cases

idle dune
#

And yes

#

I settled on Ubuntu

fast pagoda
warped narwhal
idle dune
#

My coworkers will be subjected to cut Paccha Neuro art as my desktop hmmThinkers

opaque sigil
fast pagoda
#

last time kitty failed but not as bad as alacritty

fast pagoda
#

ever

opaque sigil
#

maybe idk

warped narwhal
#

Is there any that passes all tests and also has GPU acceleration?

fast pagoda
#

slightly better then alacritty

#

wezterm is gpu accelerated

#

interestingly the current version of wezterm i have regressed on it a bit

#

goddammit wez

#

right to left is messed up and the sixel failed to render properly now

sick owl
#

Oh hey they're doing an official version of my favourite adorable hobbyist robots from Japan neuroHypers

#
m5stack-store

Open-source modular toolkits for IoT devices based on ESP32-updated version of ESP8266. With stackable modules, user-friendly IDE, enabling rapid and high-quality prototyping, STEM education, engineering and mechanical use.

fast pagoda
#

can i turn them into real life medarot

glad path
#

iterm handles ansi pretty well

fast pagoda
#

cool retro term NOOO i had weird hope (but previously it was always bad and still isn't great)

sick owl
sick owl
glad path
#

iterm2

#

if you can test it

#

iterm2 is good

fast pagoda
#

unless there's a port of iterm to linux

sick owl
#

Personally I like this bus one

glad path
#

uhh

#

can i paste the program into shell

#

or do i gotta make a file and chmod it

fast pagoda
#

you just save it in a text editor as whatever.sh then run it from terminal

mine is named terminal_testdrive.sh

sick owl
fast pagoda
#

but yeah you'd have to chmod

glad path
#

blink it blinking

sick owl
glad path
#

right to left failed

fast pagoda
#

missing colours and sixel for sure

glad path
#

wait

#

holdon

#

sixel was working before

rigid snow
glad path
#

or doing SOMETHING

#

i resized the term thats why prolly

#

no clue where the color is

fast pagoda
glad path
#

iterm does have truecolor though

fast pagoda
#

if only it were actually a better terminal

sick owl
#

The profane bipedal stack chan

fast pagoda
#

(crt not iterm)

fast pagoda
sick owl
glad path
#

iterm2 is honestly pretty good

#

only complaint is bg bugs sometimes

#

ok bye

fast pagoda
#

wonder how windowsTerminal handles it when running it from wsl

fast pagoda
sick owl
#

๐ŸŽธใฒใจใ‚Šใ‚ชใƒผใ‚ฑใ‚นใƒˆใƒฉ๐ŸŽถ

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#

Every time I'm reminded these guys exist I just fall down a rabbit hole of cool little guys people have made

fast pagoda
#

abe is rolling in his grave

olive sable
#

aberham lincoln?

fast pagoda
#

yep that's the one

#

they both got blasted randomly

olive sable
#

what

sick owl
#

Ran across Stack from Akatsuki records on the hashtag neurOMEGALUL

#

Unexpected cameo

fast pagoda
sick owl
#

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olive sable
#

who is schizo abe?

fast pagoda
#

former pm of japan

fast pagoda
#

he's been a meme for a long long time trying to increase birthrates in japan

#

if you ever see the japanese guy telling people to reproduce

#

that's him

sick owl
lament igloo
fast pagoda
#

it spins

#

i saw the energizer commercial

fast pagoda
#

i like how they'll draw a whole page

olive sable
#

how much are they?

sick owl
#

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#

Killer robot neuroMonkaOMEGA

olive sable
#

40 bucks?

sick owl
#

vedalOmega the creature

olive sable
#

the screen thing is around 40-60 bucks dependign on the model it seems ye

sick owl
#

Thinking this'll be my next pet project after the robot arm

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neuroMonkaOMEGA this guys ones are eldritch

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They're kinda like an ultra budget reachy mini actually

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Anyway, I got to stop looking at these or I'll be at it all night

trim valve
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Im thoroughly enjoying trying to figure out nix stuff at 3am

olive sable
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is that sarcasm i sense?

trim valve
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50/50

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on one hand, its better than not sleeping

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on the other hand, the solution seems to be:
"don't try and write the networkmanager config by hand in nix. instead, use the nm-cli and then run nm2nix"

tender river
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networkmanager FRICK

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iwd vedalHeart

trim valve
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international womens day enub

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I'm gonna stop you there

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this isn't even for a wireless machine

tender river
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why networkmanager then nub

trim valve
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i can't see another way to add a palo alto networks vpn to a nixos machine

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idk I see no reason not to use networkmanager here

tender river
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oo another annoying protocol FOCUS you can use networking.openconnect tho

tender river
trim valve
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oh true ig I can cut out the networkmanager

trim valve
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or just the usual linux user hates software

tender river
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both neuro3

trim valve
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now the next game

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is to figure out how to make it work with SAML

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(surely its just that easy)

tender river
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networkmanager had random issues for me iwd never FOCUS networkmanager opaque do many thing in one package it convenient for DE integration but annoying for power user

olive sable
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SAML?

trim valve
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I think its part of how my uni's sso works or something

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idk enough about it

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looks possible

tender river
rigid snow
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oh i get it

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sam l

olive sable
trim valve
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hmm

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do I keep this as a theoretical nix config

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or do I get up and fuck with my pc

olive sable
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yes

minor crag
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The price of ram has literally gone up 2x in about 2 weeks :3

olive sable
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yep

minor crag
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A kinda crap 128GB ddr5 kit is now ยฃ1600

olive sable
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yep

umbral thorn
half socket
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I wanted 2x32gb ddr5 kit but looks like I'm waiting another year

minor crag
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I had to half the amount of ram I'm buying just so I could afford it

minor crag
quick condor
half socket
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what if you use old SSDs as RAM

umbral thorn
olive sable
quick condor
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Im thinking of selling it at these prices

olive sable
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wouldnt be a bad idea

quick condor
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Like I like having it but at this point it's hard to justify not doing it

minor crag
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The ram kit I want is about the same price as the CPU and just a bit cheaper than the RX 9070 XT

zealous fiber
olive sable
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my ddr4 4x16 3600 i got toghether with my mobo and 5950x for 300bucks is now also 700

minor crag
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I think my PC might have to be on am3

umbral thorn
minor crag
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Then I might be able to afford some ram

umbral thorn
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then how much 12x 64gb ddr5 ecc worth now...

olive sable
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a fuckton

zealous fiber
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i can sell my pc for more than i got it for despite my gpu being half the price it was

quick condor
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The kit in the picture is going for 15k, the fact that it is almost as much as a cheap base model car makes me a little sick

zealous fiber
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its kinda stupid

young plover
zealous fiber
amber fractal
olive sable
umbral thorn
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omfg

minor crag
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If I remove 1 GPU I could afford my 128GB kit

olive sable
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im watching some video on lithography
"large things are a lot larger than small things"

umbral thorn
quick condor
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Wtf... I could probably get a blackwell

amber fractal
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Sir, how many kits did you get? 4x32 is 2k. Why do you need 3 kitz

sick owl
olive sable
sick owl
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Ram wouldn't go for nearly that cheap in this day and age

zealous fiber
amber fractal
zealous fiber
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thats +$700 per stick

quick condor