programming

[dry charm]

I do not want to install nix on Windows work laptop

[tender river]

ye that wont work makes sense

[dry charm]

or potentially termux or bazzite

tho on bazzite i'M 100% sure it'Ll be just a devcontainer

[sick owl]

Lule

Rare twitter algo W

[quick condor]

Time to start migrating the memory server

[tender river]

mm anyway easiest hack is

environment.etc.dotnet-sdk.source =
  let
    inherit (pkgs.dotnetCorePackages.dotnet_9) vmr; in
  "${vmr}/lib/dotnet-sdk-${vmr.releaseManifest.sdkVersion}-linux-x64/sdk/${vmr.releaseManifest.sdkVersion}";

then set path to /etc/dotnet-sdk/MSBuild.dll

[olive sable]

larping

[clear sedge]

i used to watch this guy before i found out he hosted a ch*tbot

filthy

[dry charm]

wait what

I did

home = {
  packages = with pkgs; [
    ...
    dotnetCorePackages.dotnet_9.sdk
  ]
}

[tender river]

thats better if it works

[dry charm]

I had it in a folder before

I hate polluting the global space with dev stuff

[tender river]

you can also just use dotnet-sdk_9

[dry charm]

butI already did that with a lot of shit

:bruh

Oh yeah and still does this when I open a dotnet project

[olive sable]

why you censored chat?

[clear sedge]

i censor motherfucker as m*therfucker

[olive sable]

why?

[clear sedge]

whimsy

[tender river]

pen pineapple apple pen

[olive sable]

🖊️ 🍍 🍎 🖊️

it is ahoge time

[rigid snow]

bro really should stick to videos about web dev
though to be fair title is classic clickbait and his video isn't glazing it and starts with him showing a CRAZY regression on his own benchmark, then kinda hints at it being benchmaxxed throughout the video

from what i can remeber

it's a "first look" after all

[uneven pulsar]

neuro-awa

[tender river]

[rigid snow]

also gpt image 1.5 is out

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

i fail to see where im wrong

this is good topology

[rigid snow]

why loop sagged

[clear sedge]

hair

[olive sable]

wdym?

[rigid snow]

this loop pisses me off for some reason

are you sure it's good

[olive sable]

the fornt hair is seperated

[rigid snow]

wait what

[olive sable]

i lowered that vert to make the forehead less visible

[rigid snow]

OH it's lowered

my brain kept telling me it's pushed inward

[olive sable]

oh

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

ye its set to smooth shading, but that doesnt fully work with how it is seperated

some of the hair is seperated inbetween, other hairs like at the right go outwards

rn hair is too flat

need more volume

[rigid snow]

just extrude along normals

[olive sable]

well, need more hairs, not more thick same amount hair

[amber fractal]

When you go for volume of hair IRL you stack smol layers and those layers being layered instead of merged gives the hair volume.

[olive sable]

silly shampoo ad, just extrude along normals

[amber fractal]

surely it works

[olive sable]

people with long hair here

anyone?

can you extrude along normal?

[rigid snow]

i can

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

curly therefore can't say anything

[rigid snow]

salt water

[olive sable]

im trying to make curly hair

[rigid snow]

is this supposed to be curly

[olive sable]

well

kinda curly you know

[rigid snow]

that's wavy

[olive sable]

not too curly

wavy

i guess

i dont know hair terminology

[amber fractal]

I swap between the two depending on how I brush

[rigid snow]

if you straighten curly you get wavy ye

[olive sable]

im going for soemthing along these lines

[rigid snow]

wavy 1000%

[olive sable]

curly at the tips you know

and then i need to add twintails i think

its hard to extrapolate data from the sam.dev studios internal character sheet drawing

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

i did have some questions about the diagonal lines

what are those?

[amber fractal]

let me grab the notebook rq

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

I don't know what past me was smoking, might have just been there just to say twintails exist due to me not having the best of times taking photos of sketches.

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

either that or they wanted hair accessories on the twin tails

I'm leaning to that because I remember trying something similar and not being able to get them straight without adding extra bands across the span of the hair.

[olive sable]

actually

how do twintails work?

[rigid snow]

what do you mean

[olive sable]

like

how do they connect

where do they connect

[rigid snow]

what

[olive sable]

what hair needs to be shorter to accommodate the hair there

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

none

[amber fractal]

Someone get this man a hair guide, that'd probably help

[olive sable]

hair is confusing

im glad im not a barber

when you google twintails most of the results are anime

[amber fractal]

that's what my old barber also said, so no change from decade+ of experince

[amber fractal]

pigtails (idk why)

[olive sable]

oh

i see

i think i figured it out, maybe

hair tie to tie the hair

[tender river]

ye twintail hair style not haircut

[olive sable]

whats the difference?

[tender river]

haircut = cut
hairstyle = not

[olive sable]

oh

[tender river]

i mean hairstyle can require specific haircut me not know exact word definition

[olive sable]

hair style is when they style the hair, hair cut is when they cut the hair

i think im getting this

[rigid snow]

basically?

i am artist yes

[trim valve]

managed to break a light fitting

I'm goated like that

[olive sable]

uh

congrats?

[tender river]

better than your lamp exploding

[rigid snow]

what

[tender river]

ye recently me turn on lamp lamp explode

if it was facing me i would get hurt probably

floor got burned by the filament (?)

[rigid snow]

incandescent

2025

[olive sable]

ye

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

people still use those

[rigid snow]

buy led lamp

[trim valve]

led gives me headache

[olive sable]

no

[tender river]

me buy if it good replacement

[rigid snow]

better ones don't flicker

[tender river]

how do i explode them

[trim valve]

what do you mean no

[olive sable]

we still have a box of about 50 incandescent lamps to go through

[trim valve]

[trim valve]

idk where you buy good ones

[rigid snow]

dim and hot and

expensive to run

[trim valve]

is there like a professional led ranking

[tender river]

and explode

[trim valve]

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

my entire room and pretty much the entire upper floor of my house uses some shitty standard that i hate

[tender river]

esl typo

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

it has 2 prongs

not the good one

[amber fractal]

I like being able to unscrew the light

[olive sable]

gu10, that fucker

[amber fractal]

We do have LED these days, Mine is a smartlight but I CBA to set it up

[rigid snow]

like these?

[olive sable]

idk

[amber fractal]

Seems right

[olive sable]

i cant see the back

[rigid snow]

oh no i know they have 2

[amber fractal]

flush ceiling bois

[olive sable]

Tried to take a picture of mine but a ghost light appeared

[rigid snow]

they're wired to a dimmer which is why they're the only ones incandescent

[amber fractal]

I see the issue, it is in a frame

[trim valve]

solution found

[olive sable]

?

[trim valve]

I have an incandescent desk lamp

[rigid snow]

ye same

[rigid snow]

that's

a solution

[warped narwhal]

internal lense reflections

[clear sedge]

YES FINALLY A NON-100% KEYBOARD LAYOUT THAT DOESN'T SUCK FUCKING ASS

YOU HAVE THE CORRECT ENTER KEY

YOU HAVE BACKSLASH WHERE IT SHOULD BE

REJOICE

AHAHHA

[warped narwhal]

so an ISO layout?

[clear sedge]

YES

[olive sable]

stop shoutinh

[warped narwhal]

keychron does most of the formats with ISO options

[amber fractal]

not you, you are not what I'm looking for

[trim valve]

ducky one 2 sf my beloved

its a shame that the keyboard itself kinda sucks

[clear sedge]

sorry i'm just really excited i love iso keyboards

[rigid snow]

short shift enjoyers

[trim valve]

I need my \'s

[clear sedge]

THAT'S WHAT I'M FUCKIN SAYING

[warped narwhal]

and the nerf jolt on the desk

[trim valve]

lol this desk is so goofy

I had to double check I wasn't doxxing myself

[amber fractal]

not you eith- wait that works if you just tear it apart

[trim valve]

thank god for phone cameras being so shitty

[olive sable]

are they 12V or 120/240V?

the 12V ones are MR16

which we have downstairs

[amber fractal]

relection off the camera

[olive sable]

look identical on the outside

[amber fractal]

I love coming in and just yoinking the lights then just leaving

okay now I'll be quiet

[olive sable]

looks dangerous

"660W" ye i wouldnt push 660w through those tiny cables

[amber fractal]

hard agree

been awhile since I've had to swap one of these

[olive sable]

i had to swap a light 8 months ago if not longer

and i put it on my windows sill

its still there

never bothered to throw it away

[amber fractal]

I had to swap out the base socket due to it cracking

gotta throw away the heat somehow

[olive sable]

I lied, there are 2

i did it twice in a row

[rigid snow]

it doesn't matter they both have 2 prongs

but they are 240

[amber fractal]

wired to main grid for power

lights handle voltage themselves

[olive sable]

well, i guess, but you said "like these?" so i was comparing if they're the same ones

[naive salmon]

Specs?

[rigid snow]

ye same

[trim valve]

incandecant light bulb

[clear sedge]

lasagna box 2080 ti

[olive sable]

oof

[trim valve]

or do you mean the pc

[amber fractal]

probs pc

[olive sable]

no, they meant thew keyboard ofcourse

[amber fractal]

true

[olive sable]

this bad boy does 8000hz pulling rate

[amber fractal]

[naive salmon]

I feel bad for your USB controller

[trim valve]

in which case, ryzen 9950x, rx 9070xt and 64GB ddr5@6400MT/s

[naive salmon]

Can I have some ram

[trim valve]

[olive sable]

dont, i have no clue what its actully running at, i never asked it to do 8k so its probably doing 1k

[nimble socket]

Hello fams

Gm

[olive sable]

hi

[amber fractal]

morbing

[nimble socket]

How are you all doing

[olive sable]

im good

[nimble socket]

Cool

Is there any gamer here

Am looking for a game mate 😁

[amber fractal]

mabe

[olive sable]

check #gaming

[naive salmon]

I should smack you

[amber fractal]

unless the game is screeps, then your in the correct place

[nimble socket]

Okay bruh
Wbu
Don't you play games 😏

[olive sable]

uhm

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

im feeling weirdly threathened

the mood we set here is not okay

[nimble socket]

Really 😂

[tender river]

game game

me play game of 15

https://15puzzle.uk/

best move count

30

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

i dont get it

[amber fractal]

it's an old man joke

but also just a fun game

[tender river]

require god rng already but me hope for sub 30 next

[olive sable]

thats not very nice

[nimble socket]

Cool

[tender river]

no

[olive sable]

oh

its you have to slide the numbers in order

[tender river]

enable pro mode in settings

[olive sable]

im good at that

[sick owl]

The guys behind the open source Olmo models and that recent byte level transformer release are doing an AMA apparently
https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1pniwfj/ai2_open_modeling_ama_ft_researchers_from_the/

[olive sable]

what

wtf does pro mode do?

[tender river]

check

[sick owl]

It makes it pro

[nimble socket]

Do you play infinity kingdom

[olive sable]

its coloured now?

[nimble socket]

The game is amazing 😁

[olive sable]

eh wtf

[tender river]

no i play game of 15

[olive sable]

i did 12 moves by accident now

[nimble socket]

You should
Trust me you are ganna love it

[tender river]

no i dont think so

[nimble socket]

😂

[nimble socket]

Why don't you gave it a try and let me tag you along with me

[tender river]

[nimble socket]

You don't like it
You can delete it 😁

[tender river]

is this self promotion or something

[nimble socket]

Nah
Just need a game mate for it

[tender river]

either way i dont care and this is off topic for this channel

[nimble socket]

I feel it would be more fun if I play with someone 😁

[tender river]

ok

[nimble socket]

Ouch 🤕
Sorry 😅

[olive sable]

the last 8 blocks are ther most difficult

318 moves in 211 seconds first try

132 in 74.95

[tender river]

no warmup

[rigid snow]

https://fxtwitter.com/UseCider/status/2001014969563853021?s=20 github is making self hosted action runners in private repos paid

Cider Collective, LLC. (@UseCider)

GitHub has recently thrown all creators under the bus by charging for self hosted runners.
︀︀
︀︀CI runs are critical to our release scheduling and testing phases, GitHub taking away the ability for us to run our own infrastructure for free* heavily cuts in on the small cut we already charge users.
︀︀
︀︀We're making this post to raise awareness on the issue as an affected development group.

**💬 3 🔁 2 ❤️ 65 👁️ 2.4K **

FxTwitter · Dec 16, 2025, 7:42 PM

[olive sable]

chay

[tender river]

so many misinputs

[olive sable]

why are you so cracked at 15 game?

[tender river]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1444538602330787920.gif?size=160&name=🔥AUTISM🔥

[olive sable]

fai enough

[tender river]

i find it hard to play with tablet

most practice on flipper zero

just lack of experience

[tender river]

i was wondering why use github actions at all if self hosted but i guess having native integration with github ui is convenient

[rigid snow]

ye

[olive sable]

theres probably osme insane algorithm to be good at the 15 game

but i dont know it

[tender river]

only strategy i can tell you is start with [1 5 9 13, 1 2 3 4], then puzzle is reduced to 3x3

other than that its just practice

[olive sable]

126 in 54.95

oh

i ussually do 1234, then 56, then 78, then 9 13, and then the last 6

[tender river]

ye it not something i read online it just something my brain started doing itself after a while

but then i looked online and everyone do the same

practice all you need brain good at patterns

useless skill tho

me not that good compared to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS69K9xcW8o

[olive sable]

oh

drawing tablet

ive been mousing

[tender river]

either works

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mini-miniko-minikomew-gif-1425820994898369756

[olive sable]

112 in 65.35

moves went down, time up

[tender river]

become progressively harder to push it as you get closer to optimal solutions

my best went from 39 a couple months ago to 30 now but i still get sub 40s very very rarely

for 35 moves you get one chance every ~545 games

below that it only gets worse

thats why pro players typically use average of N games to compare their skill

(ao5, ao12, etc)

i only play for single best move count so its just a gambling addiction in my case

[olive sable]

gamba

87 in 41.999

imma stop here

i have peaked

[trim valve]

the one reason I had for not eventually selfhosting some fork of gitea

[sick owl]

:0 Gemini using $\color{green}{\textbf{FANCY TEXT}}$

[jagged turtle]

thanks github

[trim valve]

hm

I'm bored and wanna try and make an llm play a game

[opaque sigil]

they must really like you, i only got 2 mails from them

[trim valve]

minecraft feels kinda cliche because of neuro

terraria is a pain in the ass to mod

hmm

[tender river]

do NOT do anything that requires spatial awareness

even 1d

[olive sable]

visual novel probably easiest game for llm

[trim valve]

simple trick here

do not make llm ever directly interact with world

[tender river]

yee

it hard tho

[trim valve]

my view is it just writes a bunch of python scripts or something

[tender river]

[trim valve]

I have faith in my idea

[tender river]

i dont but good luck

[trim valve]

its more like blind optimism

first uh

fighting nixos

[tender river]

❄️👊

[trim valve]

its the uh

"getting vscode and rust installed" thats throwing me

without installing everything as system packages ideally

[tender river]

why not

[trim valve]

ig those are fine

idk I don't want to pollute stuff if possible

[tender river]

can probably always launch vscode from nix-shell with rust-analyzer

me not know use nvim & helix

[trim valve]

hm

am I supposed to be scared of home-manager

I've heard so many mixed opinions on it

[tender river]

home-manager good for complex config

bad for simple config

[trim valve]

[rough bloom]

that's what I did before Helix
not 100% sure if I had some reference to a global rust-analyzer or not but a nix-shell should work just fine

[amber fractal]

I'm making sure to launch zed whenever I do it in the current shell I am using due to similar reasons. Most of the time I don't use it tho, just extra friction for my own projects.

-# then again, I use neovim without plugins so I'm the problem here

[tender river]

neovim without plugins still very useful if configured correctly

have lsp and what else do you really need

[trim valve]

[tender river]

it wont be preconfigured tho

[trim valve]

today's fight will be getting vscode installed before I hit the technical difficulty wall and give up

[opaque sigil]

I'm lazy so I just use the fhs package

[quick condor]

thats hard?

[opaque sigil]

means the integrated terminal is kinda useless though

[quick condor]

vs code just works

[amber fractal]

[opaque sigil]

Not on nixos

[tight whale]

What are coders even doing here

[opaque sigil]

One day I should probably do a proper hm config for it with all the extensions but that's so much effort

[amber fractal]

I'm glad I never used it just so I don't have to ever rely on it functioning

[opaque sigil]

[tender river]

wasting time usually

[rough bloom]

there's an FHS wrapper
I didn't know

[amber fractal]

[opaque sigil]

yeah it's nice for all the extensions that ship with binaries

[tight whale]

That does sound like a coder club

[opaque sigil]

all the vscode based editors have fhs wrappers, there's one for zed too

[tight whale]

Dawg I remember downloading vscode, but I had not enough experience to set the compiler to work

And this mf I asked for help was like "just install wsl"

[rough bloom]

ye I think I replaced all extensions with the ones from Nixpkgs before I encountered any issues
there are still some particularly annoying unpackaged extensions though
I should make an alias mabe

[amber fractal]

you know, windows does suck at times

(I say as if not every other person here atm is on linux)

[opaque sigil]

When in doubt blame msvc

[opaque sigil]

One day I'll do that

[tight whale]

The only thing stopping me from swapping to Linux is that I'm lazy as hell but also Linux looks terrifying

[opaque sigil]

(it only bothers me a lil bit cause fhs breaks cuda stuff for agents in the terminal)

[olive sable]

[amber fractal]

can't solve the first, or the second depending on what you use your computer for

[trim valve]

interesting font rendering

[tight whale]

For everything really the problem is though

Uni really wants me to learn to use unix based operating systems

And wsl doesn't fucking work on my laptop

[amber fractal]

bold text

[tight whale]

rcodd

[olive sable]

emmene

[amber fractal]

I can't say much on WSL, but I hear from some of the others here that; at a certain point linux in a VM is better for your sanity.

[olive sable]

verbe Emmener, j'emmène. i take

meant for like, taking people

or like dogs

kinda like accompanying

[trim valve]

I quite like wsl

[opaque sigil]

if wsl doesn't work for you then it's most likely either

• you got some ancient hardware (it's fine, just run actual Linux)
• you messed something up

[tight whale]

I might genuinely try to do dual boot at some point but ion think I can do that with 512gb

[olive sable]

this is why people tell you to remove the french language pack btw. all these hidden french verbs

[tight whale]

I was told it was something about my os blocking virtualization

[trim valve]

[opaque sigil]

CPU doesn't support virtualization?

[amber fractal]

does WSL not also require CPU virtualization support?

or at least enabled?

[opaque sigil]

It does yeah

well wsl2 at least

[trim valve]

have you checked if your laptop happens to have an option in the bios

mine did

though it had a funny side effect of making the screen randomly flicker for a year

[tight whale]

Yeah it's that one I think

[tender river]

last time i configured wsl i had to do some weird tricks on windows side to get hyperv to work probably because of ltsc tho

[tight whale]

Windows these days is dogshit as is might as well cope

[trim valve]

i mean it got fixed eventually

[rigid snow]

turn virtualization on, turn on hyperv and wsl components, install a distro
or something like that

[tight whale]

Also, could you say how that option is named so I can search into the topic

[amber fractal]

My question for switching or experimenting is this. How much are you fighting windows to get it to work, if you're already going to fourms to fix issues then it won't be that much of a shift

[trim valve]

usually cpu virtualization

the specific name can depend on the brand of processor

[jagged turtle]

i smell a discussion about vscode and/or wsl

[tight whale]

Uhhh, I don't really fight it as of now. I'd say my machine is strong enough to counter the bloat and it's just couple of annoyances

[tight whale]

Ay thanks

[rigid snow]

intel vt-x (virtualization technology), amd-v (amd virtualization)

are also names it can be under

[amber fractal]

As long as you can fix the issues, you'll be fine IMO. A lot of people fail at "it doesn't work instantly" part, which depends on what your doing.

[tight whale]

Yeah that's why I say I'm just lazy to go over to Linux, I don't feel a large intent in doing so

Although I still need at least wsl

[quick condor]

I run WSL2 and it works perfectly fine. It has its use cases like cross windows vm gpu utilization. I can run Whisper and an LLM model on wsl2 and comfy UI on windows at the same time

[amber fractal]

Can't solve laziness. but if it is worth something. If you need to scope how much works or doesn't then most linux isos come with a live enviroment running entirely on the USB stick. From there you can see at least any issues you'll have gerting it working , you can install apps and such to see how they work as well.

[quick condor]

You have to have the correct hyper v modules installed from programs and features and virtualization enabled in bios

[trim valve]

so true

incredible

it spends the whole time thinking

and then explodes

oh joy ollama doesn't let my model ever stop thinking

I just might need to give this thing any amount of way to actually read the minecraft wiki

[amber fractal]

I see no issue here

[trim valve]

its also getting stuck thinking forever

[trim valve]

gonna sleep in a bit, but so far my notes are:

• unsurprisingly, it hallucinates a boatload. maaaybe this can be fixed by giving it tool calling on the minecraft wiki? I'm not super familiar with how that stuff works (my current view is probably a tool like search_wiki(natural_language_query: str) or something that does a recursive llm call to summarize but idk how possible that is)
• I need to actually explain some more methods that are given
• I need to check that I can find a model that actually stops thinking, that would be cool

[olive sable]

goodnight chat

https://tenor.com/view/non-biyori-biyori-repeat-non-biyori-boyori-repeat-anime-bedrool-anime-bedroll-bed-burrito-gif-8064097188213711624

[tender river]

dont dream of the 15 puzzle

[idle dune]

Okay few hours into to using my new thinkpad

The screen while big is so ass

My MacBook Pro blows this this out of the water

So i have decided to purchase a 4k IPS screen mod in the future

Nevermind

[fickle rain]

What’s the resolution?

Bigger isn’t always better if the res is worse

[idle dune]

It is cheaper to buy 2 OEM 1920x1080 screens, buy USB controler,s and 3d print custom hoursing then it is to get a single 4k display

[idle dune]

1920x1080 va panel

[fickle rain]

Grim

[idle dune]

Its not grim, its a opertuinity to make the most cursed Thinkpad possible

[fickle rain]

Well then it’s based

[idle dune]

Oh no wait, apprrently is IPS?

Wait is it just Windows 11s ass UI that smaking me screen look worse than it actually is

[idle dune]

It is indeed just Windows 11 Azure making it looks like ass

Cause that looks fine, a bit blown out

But it looks fines

[trim valve]

current challenge seems to be convincing the llm to not try and plan the entire game in one prompt

[rigid snow]

https://minecraft.wiki/api.php?action=opensearch&limit=100&search=chest
https://minecraft.wiki/w/Chest?action=raw
ye? if you want recursive let your main llm ask questions to the summarizing one

wait, natural language query you say ...

[trim valve]

yeah basically that

do i make an evil 3 llm setup

main -> searcher -> summarizer
  ^\_______/  ^\_________/

because surely its that simple

idk I'll sleep on it

[rigid snow]

that seems excessive

[trim valve]

probably

[rigid snow]

searcher can both search and answer the query i think

[trim valve]

the main thing is itll probably have some level of having to make multiple searches

which idk much about tool calling

[clear sedge]

thanks playstation dev wiki

[trim valve]

also, ideally I'd yoink the entire mc wiki into a local mediawiki instance (or similar) to avoid annoying their website

[rigid snow]

i don't think they offer dumps but if they do just do rag

[trim valve]

there's https://github.com/saveweb/wikiteam3

[rigid snow]

[tender river]

you can also just add a caching layer

wont help with search i guess

[rigid snow]

rag will be miles better than this

[tender river]

true!

[trim valve]

another buzzword to add to the list

[clear sedge]

i haven't been keeping up with buzzwords

i'm practically two years out of date, i should really keep up

[tender river]

its ok you can invent them on the fly

[clear sedge]

true

i'm gonna go vibesmax my rest api model codeaciously and circle back to this gelato pattern the next cone over (i'm going to sleep)

[tender river]

[quick condor]

I hate the term Rag, it's a general approach not a method.
Is it GraphDB, vector DB, relationalDB, hybrid, etc.?
Are you embedding memories or using raw data?
How is it being retrieved?
When does it get retrieved?
How is retrieved data used?

[rigid snow]

i am using it to mean a general approach yes

a lot of things you asked can be implied in this case

[silent cloak]

Rag fans when I introduce Towel

[rigid snow]

[clear sedge]

are you.. ragging on rag

[tender river]

are you.. not sleeping an hour after you said you would

[clear sedge]

i forgor okay

:(

[tender river]

okay

[trim valve]

sleep overrated

stay up instead surely it has no downsides

[tender river]

i wanna sleep but too much stuff to do

[trim valve]

I want to sleep but brain wants to explode instead

[olive sable]

I lied

Cant sleep

seems like yall are also sleepless

[clear sedge]

wdym

i'm asleep

zzzzzzz

honk mimimimi

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-sleeping-cat-eepy-cat-eepy-kitty-gif-11184483905395278742

[olive sable]

Moon is a croissant

Ill get some snacks and watch anime

[rigid snow]

no i definitely didn’t go to bed an hour ago

[jagged turtle]

what do you all recommend for server parts?

[idle dune]

Whats the point of the server and whats your budget?

[olive sable]

i reccomend getting less ram than you originally wanted

[idle dune]

^^^^^^^^

[olive sable]

unless you're mega rich and dont give a fuck

[idle dune]

If you think or want 128gb is what you need, you probably only need 64gbb

[idle dune]

DDR# and DDR4 ecc is pretty cheap on ebay

[jagged turtle]

mhm

cool

[olive sable]

for me the ecc ram is the same price as the regular ram rn

[idle dune]

What is the point of the server though

Caus eif its a nas just get an optiplex with some sata expansions slots and velcro hdds together

[jagged turtle]

running stuff that is not on my main computer

well, that's for my personal stuff anyways

I need to get at least two, one for myself and one for the school I (kinda?) go to

[mighty thorn]

Finetuning 4b model on 12gb vram rn

[jagged turtle]

oh and yes the school is paying for their one

[mighty thorn]

[idle dune]

BLEED EM DRY

900000 BLADE SERVER FOR OUR HOME LAB

[jagged turtle]

I mean we end up with I think hundreds of thousands of dollars at the end of the year so...

Would be a shame if that money didn't get put to good use

[rigid snow]

how powerful do you need it to be

[idle dune]

But actual answer, if your on a budget then just grab a used Poweredge 740

Like 1500 for dual Xeon Golds and 256gb ram, so if your running vms and thinclients your golden

[rigid snow]

grabbing actual server hardware for a homelab is cool and all but they loud

[idle dune]

Yeah you NEED to quiet mod

Which is a pain in the ass

[clear sedge]

raspberry pi 0

[idle dune]

If you don't want to do full ass server grab something like a Precision 7920

[clear sedge]

literally just get an old dell optiplex if it's something like a home media server

[idle dune]

^^^6

Yeah if its a NAS literally jsut a Optilex and raid cards

thats it

A full tower 7060 with a i5 and 16gb of ram is fine enough for a home NAS. But for what the school does I have no clue.

[rigid snow]

my server is one of those new chinese mobos with old intel chipsets they resolder from decommissioned server mobos

[idle dune]

Hell yeah

Frakenserver

[rigid snow]

eeeeh it’s not really it’s just the mobo

it’s not fast tho it’s a 2680v2

whole server cost me like uh $130?

[idle dune]

But for the 7920, its just a Poweredge 740s specs without the rack mount. Roughly the same prices used aswell. This one is 2.5k CAD.

[jagged turtle]

I was thinking that for my personal one but the school one will need to be much more

[idle dune]

Yeah I wanna make a Jellyfin server out of a thinclient or micro optiplex. Like 50 bucks for one and then slap a 4tb hdd in, there completely fine.

[idle dune]

How much more wee talking?

Like one of those 8u monsters?

[rigid snow]

8u

[jagged turtle]

well, it needs to run multiple databases, applications, some network-wide tools, object storage, possibly an AI model but I'm trying to avoid that being the case, and also maybe a proxy

[idle dune]

Thats an entire rack

[jagged turtle]

and yes, if you guessed it was mostly for CS, congrats, you get a pat on the back

[rigid snow]

counter strike server

[idle dune]

https://tenor.com/view/long-clear-long-cs2-counter-strike-counter-strike-gif-2551831665666598509

[quick condor]

Wait so I didn't need to give my model memory server 768Gb of ram?

[jagged turtle]

I can probably reduce it down but we are still looking at multiple databases (at least two of which will be supabase), mostly python applications, and some form of storage

[olive sable]

bro we all know you rich as fuck with that much ram and your A2s and L4s

[jagged turtle]

the good thing is that some of the ones that can work with weaker power can be off-loaded to some of the old servers we have

like a proxy

oh wait I forgot about the fun part

[quick condor]

Hay, I want an L4 and a second A2, I don't have them

[rigid snow]

supabase is just postgres with a bunch of unnecessary shit on top, no clue how heavy it is

[jagged turtle]

running local gitlab and pypi/npm mirrors because our state gov blocks them/github

[idle dune]

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-pc-meme-matrix-codes-gif-11310648121341593764

[jagged turtle]

probably also need to have a local docker registry given that docker hub is also blocked and some of them want to use docker

but idk if that registry is blocked, need to check

[quick condor]

Actually newer gen Dell's are pretty quiet even at moderate load, even the 1Us, especially in a home lab where most vms are not under constant production load, they are surprisingly quiet

[jagged turtle]

they also need to handle a lot of concurrent users at once

given that these apps will be used school-wide

[rigid snow]

quick fix i know for docker hub being blocked is using googles mirror, you set it in docker settings somewhere
gcr.io

though that’s deprecated now technically

maybe the deprecation is just a url change i haven’t looked into it

it’s their own registry technically but it acts as a mirror to docker hub

[quick condor]

That's more of an implementation thing than a resource problem... I can't even count how often I see customers who are completely under utilizing their stacks because they are using the cheapest network card they can spec so they can get a better cpu

[jagged turtle]

idk how much it will be used, I don't even have numbers to draw from

but I know that lots of people will be using them during the day

some apps probably more than others but yeah

[quick condor]

Another example is "we need all flash storage" when what they need is tiered spinning + SAS ssd instead and the extra money spent on something that is outside their "with all flash" price range

[idle dune]

Well, I have no clue where you live or what you budget is, like I said old Sandy-Bridge Xeons are still pretty good for most sever tasks unless your school wants new:

Dell PowerEdge 720
Dell PowerEdge 730
Dell PowerEdge 740
HP DL380 Gen 8
HP DL380 Gen 9
HP DL380 Gen 10
IBM System x3650 M4
IBM/Lenovo System x3650 M5
IBM/Lenovo System SR650

Those flood the market from commercial refreshes and you can pic up. Obvioulsy the newer the better, but some like the Dell PowerEdge 730 can go for like 400 USD for Xeon dual E5-2690 V4, 128gb ram.

https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/introduction/
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/hardware/

[jagged turtle]

I honestly really don't care about storage as long as it's fast enough and big enough

[idle dune]

Then aim for a systme that supports Gen 4 or Gen 5 NVMe

Oh and the other

Don't cheap out on switchs

[jagged turtle]

noted

I wonder if they sell any here so I don't have to pay any overseas shipping prices

[idle dune]

Where do you live?

Theres always some insutition getting rid of their old servers

A college, uni, reserch inituitue, and government is probably handing over servers by the crate to e-waste facilite s

You cna porbably buy them chea form them

Because over seas shipping on servers doubles the price

[opaque sigil]

speaking of ecc, i might have killed a gpu for good tonight
it's throwing uncorrectable ecc errors every time you touch the memory at all

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

will see tomorrow, hopefully a good old restart is enough to fix it

poor thing has been tortured lately

[jagged turtle]

australia

[opaque sigil]

my condolences

[olive sable]

have you considered not living there?

oddly threathening if you focus on the living

[true hemlock]

of course... why have i not think about that!

[quick condor]

Games my AI doesn't want to try:

1. Open-World Sandbox Games: Games like Minecraft which offer vast open worlds with minimal structure, don't hold much appeal for me. I prefer games with clear objectives and a more guided experience.
2. Fast-Paced Action Games: I'm not particularly drawn to games that require quick reflexes and rapid decision-making, such as first-person shooters or fighting games. The pressure of split-second choices doesn't appeal to my preference for thoughtful, deliberate play.
3. Multiplayer Competitive Games: While I enjoy strategy, the high-pressure environment of competitive multiplayer games like League of Legends or Dota 2 isn't something I'm interested in. I prefer to play at my own pace and focus on personal growth rather than competing against others.
4. Games with Complex Combat Systems: I'm not a fan of games that require mastering intricate combat mechanics, such as Dark Souls or Sekiro. I prefer games where the challenge comes from strategy and problem-solving rather than physical skill.

I am so fucking happy with her decisions

[true hemlock]

actually are you in Sydney

[jagged turtle]

Why is that the case

[true hemlock]

might have some excess lga 3647 and 2011 cpus

also one old unused 1U server

but don't think that's worth any

[true hemlock]

naturally it would suck at these games either since llms aren't timing aware and depends too much on sequential decision making

[jagged turtle]

they aren't aware of much tbh

spacing and timing are absolutely weird issues

[quick condor]

Hence why I'm glad they are on the "I don't want to play" list

[true hemlock]

not surprising for stats model that don't even have cognitive functions in the first place

wonder how long the bubble gonna last

[jagged turtle]

a while

[true hemlock]

the longer it last the bigger the pop

im saving up to hoard shit tons of hardware when it pops

[quick condor]

Just going to put it out there: when it pops none of the good stuff will show up. Even if 60% of companies flop, the other 40% will buy up their corpses. It will be more of a slight relief then a major shift for consumers

[idle dune]

Well I guess she’s playing Mario or Doom

[sick owl]

Gemini three flash?
https://x.com/Google/status/2001095061598327264

Google (@Google)

⚡⚡⚡

X · Dec 17, 2025, 1:00 AM

[midnight sigil]

🪣

[idle dune]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-hes-not-happy-cat-glitch-cat-yell-cat-pet-gif-24454033

The fan in my new thnkpad started making a sussy noise

[hoary oyster]

Has anyone developed a Neuro API mod for Doom?

I need to see Neuro rip and tear

[idle dune]

Nope, not as far as I know, I asked some poeple in #neurotic-neurons if anyone did and it doesnt seem like it. It would be pretty easy to implemnt doom I thinlk. Since its not actually 3d (unless you have Neuro/Evil play it through GZ/UZDoom) then its 2D/25D. If someone made it, they should do it for Ultimate Doom, since Doom 2 is John Remarios map test suite packaged as a game and I think it would just fuck with the AI.

[hoary oyster]

I’d imagine Neuro would struggle in a fast paced game though. I think I recall a turn based mod for Doom - maybe that combined with the API could be cool? I’ll do some research. Could be an opportunity for tons of fun with all the wads too

[idle dune]

Turn based for Doom? Theres Doom RPG, that's a real game that has a popular remake WAD.

[sage crag]

hebi

[hoary oyster]

Oh cool I loved the phone Doom RPG

[idle dune]

There is also less fast paced Doom games or Doom clones. Neuro likes fantasy stuff so Hexen/Heretic is a possiblity. Thought I think it would be relly cool if she was gien functionality for like Vampie Survivors and Holocure. That would be neat.

[hoary oyster]

Ooooh good idea with Vamp Survivors. Don’t gotta be a smart cookie to play that

[idle dune]

Another thing

Light Gun games

Neuro can play OSU

She can play Duck Hunt

Or Time Crisis

https://tenor.com/view/point-blank-lightgun-game-matthewmatosis-mega-microvideos-light-gun-game-gif-5209650979385505692

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZsUNE9I9Mc

The biggest issue would eb gaving her sight recognize the enemies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Bw-pgZcVo Virtua Cop would work because the enemies are hightlighted by a graphic

[jagged turtle]

it's not just that she would struggle, it's also that with the current form of the neuro api it's almost impossible to let neuro interact in real-time

especially as there has to be some network latency

from what I can tell neuro api server is hosted at somewhere else (not localhost for sure) considering every time he wants to go modify the websocket url for an integration he wants to hide the screen

[silent cloak]

LLMs arent really event driven

there will always be delay if ur planning on syncing stuff between them

[quick condor]

When it comes to things that significantly impact responsiveness, Api calls are almost instantaneous. Network latency on a string and can phone would still be minimal

[silent cloak]

its more about the model "thinking"

its still going to be slower compared to something like an SNN

or any other event driven type of neural network

[quick condor]

Realistically the most ideal way to handle it would be as many smaller models for each type of task as feasible with orchestration layers controlling groups and a core "brain"

In a sense, even the simplest implementations do this as most VAD and TTS use some form of a model and most memory systems use an embedding model

[silent cloak]

tbh there is no realistic way with traditional ANN models without bruteforcing like that

[quick condor]

And that would be a great way to go broke while killing your liver quickly

[silent cloak]

kek

[amber fractal]

sell one and murder the other

[jagged turtle]

Well yeah, but since the AI isn't directly integrated into the game there will most likely be a delay and unless you plan on slowing the game down that delay will probably cause problems

[nocturne olive]

ANN good for individual task specialized models
ANN not good for anything actually "intelligent" that can perform tons of tasks in one model

[quick condor]

You are talking minimum of seconds for a LLM model with a high t/s response

[silent cloak]

exactly

though im not including their LLM use with that

but ive used neural networks and general machine learning for almost a decade atp

[nocturne olive]

All LLMs do is generate text
You can just trick that text generation into doing something in a weird workaround way

[silent cloak]

i just mean ANN LLMs

[sage crag]

lalalalala

[silent cloak]

because they are horribly inefficient and bad

[sage crag]

i generate text only as well

lalalalala

[quick condor]

An ANN MOE purpose built for a cluster of defined tasks wold be interesting

[umbral thorn]

moe

[nocturne olive]

Rare Elvy spotted

[silent cloak]

its because i mentioned SNNs probably

[quick condor]

All they generate is most probable tokens which are converted to text

[umbral thorn]

nah just bored n happen to check here

n tired

[quick condor]

I was supposed to leave work 3 hours ago

I want sleep

[silent cloak]

im up all night working

its around 3am for me

[umbral thorn]

@true hemlock ur competition

[quick condor]

2AM here but I've been at work since 2pm

[silent cloak]

im just trying to finish up my university stuff so i can enjoy a christmas break

[umbral thorn]

[sage crag]

sleep mayb

[gritty dust]

@olive sable genius idea okay, here me out, vision ai on robot arm to shoot foam darts with aimbot at my crush because I dunno how to talk to her rate idea 1-10

[jagged turtle]

my wsl is breaking

[idle dune]

Its like everytime I try to anything Windows 11 fights me to try and ue copilot and one drive.

[amber fractal]

in my humble opinion, it is a good idea, 7/10

[quick condor]

According to chat gpt, based on the things my model chose for it's personality, it's highly likely to develop something akin to autism... Great

[amber fractal]

I don't know how to feel about this statement, if I should feel bad for it or me

[quick condor]

To be fair since the models pretty much start with high technical training but are socially stunted, it's a pretty easy trait to develop for them... My hypothesis is vast majority of people building training data are on the spectrum and this is the result

[umbral thorn]

but autism is cognitive behavior not speaking style

[sage crag]

[quick condor]

To put it bluntly, the percentage of people developing and training models that are autistic is statistically higher than a random percentage of the population. Prose and speaking style are less likely to be impacted in the same way as other traits. Essentially my off the wall 4 am theory is that the core training data is going to be slightly skewed towards whatever areas the person training the model is an expert in and the same goes for weaker areas

It's an interesting concept

[sage crag]

stupid concept

[quick condor]

That's not a real counter argument, I'm all for hearing a counterargument.

Also worth noting that I'm not saying this is bad or good, just interesting

[sage crag]

me not waste my time forming counterargument

let someone else do that

[quick condor]

Then why say anything? Just saying I think you are dumb is pointless

[sage crag]

annoyed and insulted at implications, why else say anything derogatory

to be clear i have my own reasons to disregard what you said, but the reason for commenting is because it was annoying to look at on my screen

[tender river]

[quick condor]

What part was derogatory? I guess the "Great..." could be perceived as negative and if that's the case then I apologize. It was meant in more of a "my gut was telling me that this was happening and it wasn't my intent" way.

Doesn't change my philosophy on the project, as long as it is able to communicate I stand by no reversion

[tight whale]

What the hell

[warped narwhal]

I don't agree with your philosophy therefore it is wrong

[fast pagoda]

I saw some of these appear a few years ago idk how long they s been around tho

[jagged turtle]

https://github.com/VedalAI/Discord.Net A fork just to reintroduce .NET Standard 2.1 huh

https://github.com/VedalAI/neuro-stocks-data NOWAYING

LIVE DATA IN REAL TIME (during subathon probably)

[fast pagoda]

Based vedal proudly coating everything in .NET slime

[jagged turtle]

I wonder if this means I can build out a static page that updates every day with stock order history

Actually I could also just make it fetch the raw.githubusercontent.com file url

[fast pagoda]

The data is too large to be biased this way I think unless it's purely based on the person that's doing the training

It might be biased towards certain topics but I think an overall corpus of data it'd be hard to distill the essence of autism into some sort of selection criteria for the data itself in a way that causes the model to act like that CONSTANTLY. Most can act autistic if you ask them to though because information about what that means is in there

As a reminder llms don't have neurodivergence because they don't have Neuro-anything except neurosama

And perhaps

[trim valve]

there's a second branch that has some slight changes to audioclient

and by slight I mean basically nonexistent

[dull egret]

https://youtu.be/p03oO_7sCaY

[jagged turtle]

one line moved

[trim valve]

still, ig I had to guess it means neuro is still having similar issues with voice from a year ago

[fast pagoda]

What else is new

That's one of the constants of the universe

[jagged turtle]

death, taxes, and neuro having issues with vcs

classic

[fast pagoda]

There's light speed, preservation of matter, and neurosama causing vedal agony with voice issues

[trim valve]

[umbral thorn]

also as me said https://discordapp.com/channels/574720535888396288/1071784467036913664/1450782165582221386

there just no valid way to quantify if model is autistic becuz its literally just train on big human data

[fast pagoda]

💯

i agree elvy

[trim valve]

what if it's exclusively trained on [insert game here]'s forums

[fast pagoda]

No qualia to query to check anyways

[fast pagoda]

Star wars: empire at war

t ha t would be the only way

guaranteed autist (i should know)

also that game is actually still active somehow

[fast pagoda]

elvy what's your wpm

do a https://humanbenchmark.com/tests/typing

[sage crag]

18

[fast pagoda]

are your addons like extra cable channels konii

[sage crag]

not sure

[fast pagoda]

well you have a lot of them

[trim valve]

konii is there a Teleshopping channel

[fast pagoda]

the same amount of addons in fact as the number of square km if you were to measure the surface area of a sphere placed at the orbital radius of the earth

280,000,000,000,000,000

[sage crag]

cant type today

[sage crag]

no

i checked

none

[rigid snow]

[jagged turtle]

btw data type inconsistency here, all of this could just be numbers but for some reason they are strings

[fast pagoda]

Wow he's literally me

[jagged turtle]

what

[fast pagoda]

Vedal is

Me

[sage crag]

[fast pagoda]

I am he

King charles

[sage crag]

kill turtel put him in the rum

[rigid snow]

money serialized as strings is semi common

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

equity has different datatype on the history and account

[rigid snow]

[opaque sigil]

yeah make the history a string too and all good

[jagged turtle]

@/ladev789 please fix

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

afraid to ping

[sage crag]

@silent anvil pls fix

[fast pagoda]

Turtle is pinged

Run for the hills

[sage crag]

🔪

[jagged turtle]

If I wasn't planning on a neuro integration for christmas I would actually do it

[sage crag]

[jagged turtle]

anyways, schema

{
    "type": "object",
    "properties": {
        "account": {
            "type": "object",
            "properties": {
                /* WHY IS IT INCONSISTENT 1 */
                "cash": {
                    "type": "string"
                },
                "equity": {
                    "type": "string"
                },
                "portfolioValue": {
                    "type": "string"
                },
                "originalInvestment": {
                    "type": "number"
                }
            }
        },
        "history": {
            "type": "array",
            "items": {
                "type": "object",
                "properties": {
                    /* WHY IS IT INCONSISTENT 2 */
                    "timestamp": {
                        "type": "number"
                    },
                    "equity": {
                        "type": "number"
                    },
                    "change": {
                        "type": "number"
                    },
                    "changePercent": {
                        "type": "number"
                    }
                }
            }
        },
        "positions": {
            "type": "array"
        },
        "activities": {
            "type": "object"
        }
    }
}

[rigid snow]

i mean @mint glen

[jagged turtle]

oh

[rigid snow]

wait their name isn’t

[jagged turtle]

oh fun

[sage crag]

exit codes

bad

[trim valve]

is this stocks event different to when neuro got given money

[sage crag]

in my OS exit codes wont exist

[fast pagoda]

38tb in this pickature of a couple boxes

Rip Seagate enclosure for it has been shucked
I need to replace the 8tb drive in here cuz it's too small

I like the little booties they put on the drive

It had socks

No exos though sadge, not the greatest drive but for $240 I'll take it

suppose i shouldnt make the warranty fraud that easy

perhaps even not bar codes

damn son they put a lot of crap on a hard drive

[opaque sigil]

how much does that drive weigh

[fast pagoda]

it's thicc

i can weigh it

one sec

I tared it but the caddy is 68 grams on its own

This 8tb Toshiba drive for comparison is 702 grams

It's actually lighter than the Toshiba lmao

[opaque sigil]

oh damn that's lighter than i expected

[opaque sigil]

i thought it'd be a kilogram maybe, close enough

[fast pagoda]

the 702 is the toshiba which is 8tb but this is 699 at 24tb

For another comparison since I got curious, a 2010 vintage Samsung spinpoint f3 1tb

this drive has been running for 15 years with no issues

goated

i have 2 of them that have been doing that running together for 15 years and havent had any bad sectors or anything, havent tested them for speed in a long time tho

im sure theyre HDD speed aka shit

Sata 3gb Pog definitely worth putting on the label

Its brother is the thinner sportier twin I guess

this concludes real hard drive weighing hours

[opaque sigil]

[fast pagoda]

wonder when these things went out of warranty

pre-seagate buying samsung's hdd business it was 3 years so 2013

good

warranties are for bitches

Doing that cost me my seat

[opaque sigil]

[fast pagoda]

let me guard down

[sage crag]

wrrr

wrrrr

wrry

https://tenor.com/view/marin-kitagawa-marin-kitagawa-kitagawa-marin-sono-bisque-doll-wa-koi-wo-suru-gif-24606236

[fast pagoda]

Me 2

[umbral thorn]

ye koni right, only 18 if raw letter type

if me use helper tool me can only get 40 still maybe

much slower than month ago

[sage crag]

most people can't type any faster than that

[scarlet arch]

Our legacy hash calculation had a minor bug in it, and sadly for backwards compatibility we need to keep this around. so now, when moving the same functionality to a different project, the tests include gems like this:

very funny

[rough bloom]

Byter

[opaque sigil]

[scarlet arch]

[sage crag]

byter

[scarlet arch]

heyo :D

my pushes take about 12 minutes to complete, so I have time to shitpost for once :D

[sage crag]

[young plover]

Attempt to accelerate CRC function in a project with arm CRC instructions
The polynomial is correct but the results don't match no matter how I reorder the bits

[opaque sigil]

obvious solution is to remove the checksum

claude style

[young plover]

I think I did eventually figure out the problem and that it's impossible to accelerate. Don't remember exactly what it was.

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mini-miniko-minikomew-gif-1425820994898369756

floating point?

certain operations non-commutative non-associative on fp

[scarlet arch]

the original implementation was a C function written in 2013. And due to the hash being used in customer databases we can't even migrate stuff.. so we gotta keep it around. this is more tech debt and an insane implementation instead of optimization haha

[sage crag]

rewrite c in go

[young plover]

Yeah I'm saying I was trying to replace the old bugged one

[sage crag]

move from bad language to bad language with gc

[scarlet arch]

whats funny is it was actually rewritten in Rust, and now we're moving this functionality to a go project.

[sage crag]

ye tech debt

only climbing

[scarlet arch]

officially our solution was supposed to be a tech demo, written in the way quick demos are written, and no amount of rewriting can fix architectural issues :D

[scarlet arch]

we're bypassing this by writing more and more libraries. slowly building a new product out of those without the PM noticing :D

I'm still pushing btw.

what are you all up to? :D

[sage crag]

resolve tech debt by writing more libraries

i hope that goes well for you

[sage crag]

[scarlet arch]

so far, yes. once a library is written we usually don't have to touch it for months

[sage crag]

all of modern computing is on a tech debt

[scarlet arch]

yeah..

[sage crag]

we just ignore it

even the hardware you use, and the internet

[opaque sigil]

ignorance is bliss

[sage crag]

in order to avoid tech debt you have to rewrite the whole stack every time you need something new

[scarlet arch]

oh sadly I know. I always wondered what would come out of redesigning the whole PC architecture. like.. with everything we've learned

[sage crag]

i intend to

[scarlet arch]

I meant on a PCB level. like universal connectors and stuff, not this weird motherboard design stuff

[opaque sigil]

konii architecture processor

[sage crag]

i dont need to design a processor though 🤔

i think riscv is perfectly suitable for my needs at the moment

if maybe a bit too much

if i target an entirely virtualised cpu uuh

maybe i can make my own, but it would likely suck

i can write virtual machines but real SoC design is a bit harder

[opaque sigil]

isn't using riscv basically designing a processor

you have to make all the useful things yourself

[sage crag]

riscv is ISA spec

[opaque sigil]

yeah

[sage crag]

i think the hardware implementation is up to the fabricator or whatever its called

[opaque sigil]

a very very barebones one last time i checked

[sage crag]

there are a bunch of extensions

not sure why

personally a smaller ISA is better

[tender river]

ye that the point of risc

[opaque sigil]

indeed

[tender river]

same issue happen with vm

[sage crag]

i guess devs couldnt survive without vectorisation

[tender river]

you either add jit and detect idioms to make them faster

or you add more instructions

[sage crag]

superinstruction or JIT

the answer is to add superinstruction instruction

[tender river]

me make

supersubgraph

[opaque sigil]

run pc

[sage crag]

super(subgraph)
or (supersub)graph

[tender river]

super = above
sub = below

it just graph

[sage crag]

tost did you see my cursed "jit" vm

[opaque sigil]

which one

[tender river]

[sage crag]

rrr

[faint sandal]

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ram prices finally dropping🥹

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cmyk RAM

[sage crag]

this is actually not a bad idea

but cpus already do this

with caching

and speculative execution and whatnot

only really useful for vms

at which point JIT is more useful

i dont really see a reason for custom superinstruction aside from pipelining but me modern cpu architecture knowledge lacking a lot

[rare bramble]

I have always wondered what if we took the whole "compute in memory" concept seriously where there was no split between compute and memory

[tender river]

if use regular instruction can be hard to analyze data dependencies