programming

[idle dune]

xfce is light as hell

[warm river]

tbh now i feel like i'm under control what i do, since decentralized instance of this + own crawler feels amazing tbh

[severe path]

I'm a bit of a documentation-reading gopher myself.

I know you (and other people) might not like it when I say this, but I think you should seek to know the OS better.

If you can use terminal commands, and read manuals, you will have a much easier time.

The Arch wiki contains lots of information about the components that may come with a Linux Distro.

[young plover]

Half of my job is working on embedded Linux distro. It's not a question of ability. I just couldn't be assed to look it up at the moment.

[severe path]

🤔

I didn't think it would be that much of a bother. Okay.

[jagged turtle]

small multibillion dollar corp please understand

[ember pumice]

is learning programming really that challeging

like do ppl lose their minds

[ivory plinth]

Your message failed to send.

[jagged turtle]

luckily they can still serve ads

[ivory plinth]

classic

huh

[flint dome]

guys does anyone know till what kernel version are the nvidia drivers supported on linux for now

because I seem to have bricked my latest fedora kernel that I updated with it and now have to run it on my fallback

I bricked it in the first place because every time I would boot akmod would try to build the drivers and failed so I thought maybe I could fix it

[velvet vale]

https://youtu.be/HkEcvqaTn2E?si=TpowwgKaKr5u_3tY

Some interesting insight into the neuro dashboard, he has the thinking or a summary of it up on the screen all the time it seems

[lime stag]

linus work little bit with fedora

[sage crag]

awake

[jagged turtle]

yeah not even chrome for testing has its own logo

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/typescript/progress-on-typescript-7-december-2025/

[cunning rock]

Me trying to work on monday morning.

git branch yourBranch
yourBranch already exists.

Me: where are all my changes???

Realise what happened

git checkoutyourBranch

Spend another minute thinking whats wrong, I love begining of the week

My brain is still sleeping

[uneven pulsar]

eepy

https://tenor.com/view/konakonagifs-eepy-konata-izumi-lucky-star-gif-3204604858256479229

[olive sable]

Goodmorning

[hearty notch]

gm

[olive sable]

[hearty notch]

[opaque sigil]

6.17.11, 6.18 changed some API that breaks the uvm module

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/typing-gif-gif-25597112

labwc

me want to explode

[hearty notch]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-hiss-gif-22902777

[sage crag]

screenshot

[nocturne olive]

No way that is indeed a screenshot

[sage crag]

you simply dont understand my pain

[nocturne olive]

Wa

[sage crag]

は

[nocturne olive]

Japanese reference

[sage crag]

"reference"

[nocturne olive]

Sil

[rough bloom]

ha

[sage crag]

ye but

[rough bloom]

[sage crag]

nuero caret

[rigid snow]

5pm

good morning

it’s dark out

on that vedal sleeping schedule

[obsidian mantle]

わ

わた

[olive sable]

I dont remember my Japanese enough

Wata?

Oh its cotton

[flint dome]

fuck

[rough bloom]

out-of-tree kernel module

[opaque sigil]

https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/commit/3e230516034d29e84ca023fe95e284af5cd5a065.patch here's a patch you can apply for 6.18 until they release the new driver, or just downgrade and wait for the new driver

oh apparently it's already fixed in the 590 beta driver

[warm river]

guys tbh idk what distro i should use anymore, i tried lmde/debian - nvidia issues, small package repo, fuck flatpaks, arch - burned out, gentoo - burned out, ubuntu - shit

[dry charm]

depends what you want

try NixOS if you want pain

You will either stick with it or you'll switch from it after the first few changes

[mighty thorn]

There’s this obscure distro with really good driver support

Windows

[opaque sigil]

telling someone who can't deal with arch to use nixos is crazy

[sage crag]

wrr

[mighty thorn]

But jokes aside nyarch is the only acceptable Linux distro

[sage crag]

"jokes aside"

[sage crag]

my nix config would cause people to explod

[mighty thorn]

I meant it

[sage crag]

[nocturne olive]

Mint Cinnamon?

[sage crag]

[nocturne olive]

That's what I use and it works flawlessly and has this cool thing called driver manager for easy Nvidia

Perfect functionality on dual Nvidia

[opaque sigil]

6.14 seems like an odd kernel to be running

right in the middle between two lts versions

Wait no, 6.16 isn't lts I forgot, 6.18 is going to be

[maiden geyser]

holy flip early stream

[nocturne olive]

It's the latest given to me

[olive sable]

i now have the jjk poster from the premiere of jjk: execution next to my desk

this will increasy productivity by -0.15%

[sage crag]

ohh i can share links

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv4sDL9Ljww

link

i dont intend to watch but i agree with the message

[olive sable]

oh damn its 30 minutes. ill watch it later maybe

i do agree still tho

id never want something that has lifes at danger to be running like how my code runs

[sage crag]

no comments

[olive sable]

oh they're talking about fighter planes 4 min in

idk why but i was expecting it to all jsut be about code

[sage crag]

her other videos are mostly about code, i expected it too

[olive sable]

cool channel

i shall binge it

[olive sable]

ended up watching it now

i wonder how compiler optimizations work for those standarts

im assuming they don't use too many of those to limit points of failure from unexpected ways the code gets shuffled around

[warm river]

lmde is mint cinnamon

i will prob install fedora sway spin

[nocturne olive]

I know, but that's based on Debian and not Ubuntu

[opaque sigil]

anything compiler specific is a nono

[nocturne olive]

LMDE doesn't come with driver manager

[clear sedge]

i'm a bit extreme in this in that i don't even use #pragma once because it's nonstandard

[olive sable]

wow

crazy

[opaque sigil]

if you compile my code with a compiler that doesn't support pragma once i want you to reflect on your life decisions

i hate having to benchmark my gpu code against cpu impls, they're so slow

[warm river]

great my sftp works

[clear sedge]

look man, if it's so great and important it should be added to the standard already
i'm not using it until such a time

[olive sable]

[opaque sigil]

i hope you're compiling with pedantic too then, because there are many non-standard things that are much less portable

tbf i wouldn't use it either but i'm just lazy so i end up using it more often than not

sometimes when i care enough i go back and change it

[clear sedge]

i never use any raw scalar type other than char and stick to posix standards where c/c++ standards fall flat

that's a lie, sometimes i use int if i know the value won't go over 32767 (never in structs tho)

must be some specific flavor of ocd i have

[opaque sigil]

[obsidian mantle]

dont you want smooth transition to negative numbers

[clear sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-gif-10559980082154008380

[opaque sigil]

https://fxtwitter.com/JetBrains_Fleet/status/1998048530439786833 not surprising i guess

JetBrains Fleet (@JetBrains_Fleet)

We have an update about the future of Fleet.
︀︀Starting December 22, 2025, Fleet will no longer be available for download. We are now building a new product focused on agentic development.
︀︀
︀︀Learn more about this decision in our blog post: jb.gg/c4ac85

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FxTwitter · Dec 8, 2025, 3:14 PM

[clear sedge]

I FUCKING CALLED IT

JETBRAINS IS FOCUSING ON AI BULLSHIT

so glad i moved to eclipse

[olive sable]

i dont think i can avoid pragma once for all my game engine shenanigans

and i dont see whats so bad about it anyways

[clear sedge]

it's nonstandard

[opaque sigil]

you can absolutely avoid it

[clear sedge]

neither c nor c++ define what pragma once is

[opaque sigil]

whether you want to is another story

[clear sedge]

neither does posix

neither does windows even

there is no standard for what it is and what it does, just generally followed guidelines

[olive sable]

ye but if it works who cares?

[clear sedge]

i care

[olive sable]

why?

[clear sedge]

because it's nonstandard

just add it to the standard and the problem is fixed

[olive sable]

social constructs like standart and non-standart are none of my concern

if it works ill use it

[opaque sigil]

famous last words

[rigid snow]

what does that have to do with the subject matter

[clear sedge]

eclipse doesn't push agentic development on you

[rigid snow]

did you move to eclipse from fucking fleet

[clear sedge]

i moved to eclipse from intellij

[nocturne olive]

And what does then?

[clear sedge]

i use nano/micro/vscodium for lighter development

[rigid snow]

"pushing agentic development" and it's literally a set of features you can just ignore

[olive sable]

am i wrong?

[nocturne olive]

Yeah my IDEs don't be pushing weird AI code stuff

[clear sedge]

doesn't change the fact that they're there, unethically trained and opt out instead of opt in

[rigid snow]

[nocturne olive]

What LLM even is ethically trained?

[rigid snow]

bruh

neurocord btw

[clear sedge]

i'm here for the tutel

i don't give two shits about the sisters

[nocturne olive]

That's crazy

That's actually crazy

[rigid snow]

I DARE YOU

GO TO NN

PLS

[clear sedge]

bet

[olive sable]

i dont care too much about either, im here purely for the tech behind the twins, and #programming

[clear sedge]

done

[nocturne olive]

Meanwhile me, I watch basically all the streams and develop vocal synthesizers based on the twins

[rigid snow]

they think you're ragebaiting

lucky

[clear sedge]

they think

they think i'm baiting

what the fuck

[opaque sigil]

[rigid snow]

i would too if not for the interaction here before

[clear sedge]

okay a twinshipper replied to me fuck my life kill me please

[rigid snow]

deserved

[clear sedge]

i wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy wdym deserved

[rigid snow]

for having a stupid opinion

[clear sedge]

they're unethically trained

[rigid snow]

meat is unethically sourced and i still eat it

[clear sedge]

good for you

[nocturne olive]

A lot of things we take as normal are unethical

Discord could be considered unethical

[silent cloak]

ethics are unethical

[clear sedge]

i only eat meat because protein is necessary

hell i might move onto other sources of protein eventually

just need to figure my financials out first

[nocturne olive]

This person is weird

[olive sable]

i think both opinions are wrong. existing is unethical cuz you're stealing oxygen from dying children in afrika. ethics are stupid in general

[clear sedge]

guess i'll go end myself brb

[maiden geyser]

let bro cook

[stiff mica]

aww, thank you~ ( ◡‿◡ *)

aww, thank you~ ( ◡‿◡ *)

[olive sable]

this doesnt mean that you should go do unethical things btw. i mean that its almost unavoidable to never do unethical things

[clear sedge]

ai is very much avoidable

[silent cloak]

ethics are probably not the most agreed upon thing in a server about an AI vtuber

[nocturne olive]

If you wanted to avoid it you'd be as far away from Neuro community as possible

[silent cloak]

or anywhere else in society

[olive sable]

i mean, if you're gonna do ai cuz it is a very interesting new field of technology, you will have some questionable ethics

[nocturne olive]

Neuro community is all about AI stuff

[silent cloak]

yeah but there is not a single thing everyone on the planet has an agreement on

[clear sedge]

point me to the vedal server and i'll leave here

[nocturne olive]

I do ML because I like the twins' voices and want them too

[nocturne olive]

Go to Abandoned Archive or something, that's the closest I can think of

[olive sable]

i cant help but see ai as programs rather than characters, so cant relate

[silent cloak]

thats natural if u work with the tech

[rigid snow]

thing is, ethical or not, llms bring value to this world because text is the ultimate form of data and can be easily modified unlike other forms of genai

[olive sable]

now you're jsut being mean

[nocturne olive]

Well they asked for a "Vedal" server

[silent cloak]

i dont think LLMs bring much value but the tech underlying it does

i think they are a good stepping stone

[olive sable]

ye

[maiden geyser]

llms don't bring value if ethical

[olive sable]

nah they do

[rigid snow]

kind of

[silent cloak]

but they are 1000% being used past their intended purpose

[olive sable]

ethical llms still bring value

in my imediate expertise would be npc ai

[nocturne olive]

Make an ML world generator

[silent cloak]

they have lead to superior AI branches that dont use transformer models and other types of neural networks

[nocturne olive]

A game based on a machine learning model generating the world

[silent cloak]

but the current popular LLM systems are a dead end for the most part

[olive sable]

kinda

[silent cloak]

but thats not developers faults really

[clear sedge]

just attach a machine learning world generator to minecraft using bukkit

[silent cloak]

just companies who are ignorant of the tech

[rigid snow]

the truly open source models with training data available are absolute shit and i don't even know if the data includes synthetic data generated by unethical llms which they probably do

[silent cloak]

had to do something similar years ago for anticheat development

well it just communicated to a backend

back when everyone called AI by its correct name (machine learning)

[clear sedge]

might make a machine learning world generator for bukkit actually

[silent cloak]

with what goal in mind

[clear sedge]

it'd be ethical in that it'd be opt-in instead of impossible-to-opt-out

[clear sedge]

i just wanna see where it leads

[rigid snow]

what are you gonna be training on

[clear sedge]

random data or user submitted data submitted to a central server

[rigid snow]

on procedural world gen? that defeats the whole purpose of doing ml

[silent cloak]

kek

[clear sedge]

i'm not sure how i'd go about user submitted data

[silent cloak]

i had an idea before with using them for Villager AIs

but it was only on paper

not an LLM though

[olive sable]

objectively, its very unlikely the twins are 100% ethically trained. but the end goal of what they're used for is at least ethical.
they're not getting used to give medical advice or to make critical infrastructure code.

so in my opinion they're at least a grade above chatgpt and gemini, while still being mildly questionable

its unavoidable to a degree

[silent cloak]

i mean we dont know their base model

so who knows

[olive sable]

typo lol

unethically

wait

[clear sedge]

questioanble

[olive sable]

im getting confused by my own sentence structure

[rigid snow]

0 chance it's "ethically trained"

[silent cloak]

real

i mean his fine-tune set might be

but the base model is extremely unlikely

[rigid snow]

ye for sure but it's because the corpus can be tiny in comparison

and is realistic to collect ethically

as opposed to what's required for a base model

[olive sable]

i feel like we shouldnt be defensive against people that dont want to use ai, since we all know there is good reason to not like it

[silent cloak]

is vedal trained ethically?

[olive sable]

no

shock collars are still unethical last time i checked

[silent cloak]

vedal is my favorite war criminal

[olive sable]

is it really a war crime when you do it to yourself?

[clear sedge]

i AM the WAR

[rigid snow]

being up in arms about "being shoved it" in the context of intellij of all fucking things is stupid tho

[silent cloak]

people dont want them data farming

and it just adds bloat by default

[clear sedge]

yes

[olive sable]

i feel like as logn as they dont collect your data and its jsut a tool, its fine

[clear sedge]

they collect your data

are you kidding me?

[olive sable]

well then its bad

[clear sedge]

they have so much data readily available

[rigid snow]

then don't use any of jetbrains' products

[clear sedge]

they'd be stupid not to collect it

[rigid snow]

if you're concerned about bloat

[clear sedge]

i don't

[silent cloak]

no i just hit it with strict firewall settings

so it cant do anything

[rigid snow]

you bunch are actually so schizo it's insane

[olive sable]

i feel like either side is a bit extreme

[silent cloak]

have u seen how bad companies have been lately with privacy?

[clear sedge]

caring about ethics = schizo

[olive sable]

you can just opt out so its no big deal, but really it should be opt-in.

[rigid snow]

if you really are concerned about your data being farmed in an ide you can read the tos (spoiler: no one uploads your codebase in the bg silently)

[silent cloak]

companies are getting more bold

[maiden geyser]

privacy is literally just tech godwin's law

[olive sable]

my phone knows when i go to the bathroom, so
i feel like some code company knowing how i do my collision detection is not even that bad in comparison

[silent cloak]

if they want to make money off of me they have to pay me

[clear sedge]

that's what i'm saying

[rigid snow]

but that does not fucking work with things that are done in a corporate env which programming is

that business model

it does not work

of sneakily farming data

[olive sable]

here is your 0.0002 cents, rounded to $0.00 my good sir

[silent cloak]

hell yeah

[maiden geyser]

yay, 1 token for the slop machine

[rigid snow]

unless you count telemetry which if you do i'm sorry but there's nothing to argue about and you are just insane

[silent cloak]

depends on the telemetry

[olive sable]

i highly doubt they could pay you with the billions of debt sam altman has

[clear sedge]

i disable telemetry on everything that has it

[silent cloak]

real

[rigid snow]

what does openai have do to with this

they don't ship non-ai products

[olive sable]

copilot can use gpt afaik.

[silent cloak]

probably talking about scraping data and such

most of my work is closed source so ive never had to deal with that sort of stuff thankfully

[rigid snow]

ye sure but you're consciously using an ai product lmao

[olive sable]

yes

thats the point no?

[rigid snow]

copilot is very much opt in

[olive sable]

is it not on by default? idk its been a while since ive used a new install of vsc

[silent cloak]

write all ur code in zalgo text to confuse it

🔥

[rigid snow]

i don't think it is

[olive sable]

[clear sedge]

the data copilot is trained on very likely uses incompatible licenses to what you'd need for an llm

that is an ethical issue

[olive sable]

my opinion on this is just, its bad, but its actually not even as bad as yall pretend it is

[trim valve]

it opens on the side but it doesn't autocomplete or anything

[silent cloak]

u can run local models if needed in a lot of cases

[clear sedge]

just train them off of mit-licensed code and we're gucci

[rigid snow]

also zdr exists just throwing it out there

[clear sedge]

[silent cloak]

ghost prompt in ur code

epic troll

[rigid snow]

if you care use a provider that has a zdr policy

[olive sable]

🔺

[rigid snow]

you're still using UnEtHicAL llms but your data is guaranteed to not be collected

[clear sedge]

if you're going to continue mocking me for taking an ethical stance against llms i'm just gonna block you

[rigid snow]

you're free to do so

[olive sable]

guys this is getting a bit out of hand

[clear sedge]

very well

[nocturne olive]

If you use a phone you're using AI
AI is not avoidable
The phone keyboard has two different models

[silent cloak]

i think they just made people reliant

[hearty notch]

[silent cloak]

easy dopamine fixes are never the best

[olive sable]

the autocomplete you mean?

[clear sedge]

wdym, i love subway surfers

[silent cloak]

im still planning my VR Ide for fun

[rigid snow]

it really should be ar/xr whatever it's called

spatial computing and shit

[silent cloak]

yeah but im just using VR for now

im thinking of having a cool way of visualizing relationships in the code

[nocturne olive]

Autocomplete and determining the hitboxes of the individual keys

[olive sable]

oh i see

[nocturne olive]

Fun fact, the keys on your keyboard change hitbox size based on what you're most likely to press next

[clear sedge]

do they still do that if i'm on an outdated phone

[silent cloak]

me when i get random crits on my auto correct key

[olive sable]

well, you can turn off autocomplete, and the hitbox keys don't work for me cuz my thumbs are too long to type like the phone expects

[rigid snow]

isn't the hitbox stuff algorithmic or do you mean because it's based on autocomplete results

[clear sedge]

i don't even know what android version i'm using

[nocturne olive]

If you have a modern-ish version of Android modern enough for stuff like banking apps probably

[rigid snow]

because that was on the first iphone

[olive sable]

i highly doubt the phone has a local llm running to do the autocomplete stuff

[clear sedge]

oh dude my phone is literally scuffed

it's half-rooted

so banking apps just don't work

[rigid snow]

and no way that toaster runs any ml inference

[clear sedge]

but paypal works for some reason

[silent cloak]

some banks use a lot of privacy invasive features so it might have to do with that

but u can always just use the website

[clear sedge]

i love it when my banks store my passwords in plaintext

[silent cloak]

lmao

i was joking with my college buddy about stupid startup ideas

we talked about saving a local copy of a programs database on everyone's device who uses it

in plaintext

[olive sable]

autocomplete is machine learning, but not an llm

[clear sedge]

samchine

sam are you a machine

[silent cloak]

everyones device is just out of sync

u only get synced when u first download it

[rigid snow]

it is an lm by definition

[olive sable]

no

[silent cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[clear sedge]

[nocturne olive]

It's the same arch though

[clear sedge]

arch mention

[silent cloak]

"Im human" He says as a bolt drops under him

[olive sable]

nah

[clear sedge]

tbf if he was an llm he'd just say so in a very affirming tone

I'm sorry, but as a machine learning model, I cannot identify as human.

[olive sable]

i think im too autistic to be an llm

[rigid snow]

gpt-5 maybe

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

very autistic vibes

[clear sedge]

i have a cocktail of mental bullshit going on up there

i wouldn't be able to act like an llm if i tried

[silent cloak]

Tay chatbot

[olive sable]

uh

[silent cloak]

u guys remember that?

[olive sable]

no

[clear sedge]

i don't keep up with chatbots

[silent cloak]

wow look at these fake AI devs

[olive sable]

im not an ai dev lol

[clear sedge]

i'm not an ai dev

[silent cloak]

Tay walked so neuro could run

[rigid snow]

her wikipedia article references neuro btw

[silent cloak]

the only LLM more offensive and edgy than Neuro

RIP

[clear sedge]

was tay the one that spewed antisemitic stuff

[silent cloak]

yeah

[olive sable]

nah that was grok no?

[clear sedge]

[silent cloak]

the first public interaction with an LLM properly

[olive sable]

oh

[silent cloak]

back in 2016

the internet cried when they took her down

[clear sedge]

codependency

shocker

[silent cloak]

i recommend reading about it if ur curious

it was surreal af at the time

[olive sable]

i might be giving the human race too much credit, but i dont think they were sad cuz of codependency

character ai sure, those users are mentally ill

but the average ai user know the difference between reality and ai

[silent cloak]

they just loved her because they corrupted the hell out of her

[olive sable]

ye

[silent cloak]

she was so toxic lmao

[nocturne olive]

Statistical model when statistically negative input be like

[olive sable]

that joke went over my head

[silent cloak]

well there was no alignment either

it was a first of it's time

[nocturne olive]

Very silly

[clear sedge]

stoopid hoomans

[silent cloak]

i think she is part of why neuro took off

everyone loved how unhinged she was until they took her down

then different groups were trying to develop AI further in attempt to bring her back or build something similar

[hearty notch]

so real

[silent cloak]

she went from how much she loved humans to that in like 24 hours

[hearty notch]

the duality of bot

[silent cloak]

Tay AI and Neuro rap battle when?

[hearty notch]

I mean also relatable I have a HUGELY love hate relationship with people

[clear sedge]

filtered

motherfucker

literally 1984

hate this shit

tutel pls fix

[silent cloak]

i have the 1984 book on my desk right next to me

[hearty notch]

[warm river]

if someone from there uses old react version please update https://thehackernews.com/2025/12/critical-react2shell-flaw-added-to-cisa.html

[jagged turtle]

oh so rsc vuln is actively being exploited now?

[warm river]

yea

[patent shard]

I didn't expect to get any upvotes
usually people don't understand what I say so they just ignore it

[jagged turtle]

sigh

[patent shard]

I tried seedvr2 for images, terrible results
it seems way too aggressive... realwebphotoatd model is better...

I mean... I can see how it's kind of better.. I should try CCSRv2, I think it's designed for consistency?

[jagged turtle]

type errors my beloved

[trim valve]

so far the Linux experience has been enjoyable

I question some aspects, mostly the kde defaults

if you want to attract windows users it would be nice to kill old habits like middle click paste

[jagged turtle]

which distro you on about?

[trim valve]

nixos running kde

I get that it's not trying to appeal perfectly to windows people but the defaults are a bit annoying

also, its a shame it doesn't have gnome's window snapping setup (very similar to window, just no groups) by default

[clear sedge]

immutable for windows users is nice, but most windows users would probably feel safer in something like linux mint on cinnamon

[jagged turtle]

yeah I was gonna say it wouuld make more sense if you compared linux mint instead of nixos w/ kde

[trim valve]

I guess

I've had pretty decent experiences with Ubuntu when I've used it

last time I used mint was 2018

[nocturne olive]

From what I'm aware that's just baked into Xorg and isn't easy to disable

[supple ivy]

i use windows because im too incompetent to seup lincu

last time i tried i ended up being unable to use puter

[sage crag]

i can send you my config for kde

[jagged turtle]

fun fact: clyde ai has a diamond nitro badge, but it actually was already a thing before the nitro badge date

[tender river]

oo u daily drive now?

[uneven pulsar]

taytweets i have not heard that name in years

[amber fractal]

[olive sable]

Actually nevermind, im not ready yet

[amber fractal]

[hard raptor]

Hello programming chat

i made some stuff again

the synths are all made from my voice lmao

these are the 2 vocal samples used

[trim valve]

duel dual boot with a vision to maybe switching

[hard raptor]

wait imma do another recording of the individual synth tracks and actually remove the FM

[trim valve]

could be neat, enjoying poking through the settings atm though

[sage crag]

[trim valve]

also

I assume there's some way to shove kde settings into a file?

[sage crag]

ye, plasma manager

home manager is confusing though

[hard raptor]

konsave

[sage crag]

alternatively you can write into the environment.etc."path".text

usually xdg/plasma or xdg/kde

[sage crag]

bred want to know about writing dotfiles with nix, not copying dotfiles with cli tool

[hard raptor]

oh

[tender river]

any reason windows still needed?

will read when wake up

[opaque sigil]

Plasma manager my beloved, their rc2nix is really handy too

[sage crag]

home manager 🔪

[trim valve]

my windows is currently configured to work and I have coursework due Friday

[sage crag]

[sage crag]

services = {
  # disable garbage that plasma starts
  geoclue2.enable = lib.mkForce false;
  printing.enable = lib.mkForce false;
  upower.enable = lib.mkForce false;
  udisks2.enable = lib.mkForce false;
  # stop plasma from summoning the full noto fonts set
  desktopManager.plasma6 = { enable = true; notoPackage = pkgs.maple-mono.NF-CN; };
};

environment = {
  # there is more you can disable but i forgor
  plasma6.excludePackages = with pkgs; with kdePackages; [
    kate elisa kdepim-runtime kpat konsole kwallet khelpcenter udisks2 mpv okular plasma-browser-integration power-profiles-daemon upower udisks2
  ];
  # i like klassy. wl-clipboard required for interacting with some cli apps.
  systemPackages = with pkgs; [ nur.repos.shadowrz.klassy-qt6 wl-clipboard ];
};

# IME support on kde is fine already but this is better
i18n.inputMethod.fcitx5 = {
  # why doesnt it enable itself
  waylandFrontend = true;
  # why do you even accept user config
  ignoreUserConfig = true;
  # why doesnt it enable itselfffff
  addons = [ pkgs.kdePackages.fcitx5-qt ];
};

@trim valve this is my entire plasma config file stuffs, with some comment ee

i have some configs for IME and fonts as well

if you want to see those

my labwc config is not better

[trim valve]

I'll take a look at some point

[sour frigate]

WSL2 gang ww@

[trim valve]

it's like those windows debloater scripts except there's no windows defender to disable

[sage crag]

environment.etc = {
  "xdg/labwc/autostart".text = ''
    wlr-randr --output DP-2 --mode 1920x1080@239.759995 &
    swaybg --image /home/user/Pictures/GyQ2F6PbEAAmkVQ.png &
    fcitx5 & gammastep &
  '';
}

example of configuring dotfiles directly from nix without home manager

[sage crag]

networking.firewall.enable = false;

[trim valve]

I do like wsl2, though it does annoy the shit out of me sometimes

"lets put the entire windows path into wsl"

[sage crag]

ideally you dont do this because it suck

also dont use tabs with multiline strings the indentation stripper doesnt work with them

[trim valve]

how do you figure out where this does/doesn't work

[mighty bane]

How do you guys keep track of version numbers outside of the git version tracking?

[dry charm]

You can also replace wlr-randr with ${pkgs.wlr-randr} if you do not want the package on global, but only in that file. it'll point directly to the executable in your nix store

[trim valve]

is it in the system variables search or w/e

[sage crag]

i know

[dry charm]

ik, but others might now :P

[sage crag]

i turned off all docs on my system

[trim valve]

I was meaning

https://search.nixos.org/options?

[sage crag]

if a program supports xdg user directories then it should support /etc/xdg/... as a replacement to ~/.config/...

[trim valve]

ah

[sage crag]

though if you have anything in ~/.config it will typically override everything in /etc/xdg

that one annoyed me for a while

i was wondering why my changes werent applying

[dry charm]

https://mynixos.com/
There is also this btw

[sage crag]

by default the docs bring in perl as a dependency

[trim valve]

need to be signed in to generate flakes

[sage crag]

documentation = {
  enable = false;
  doc.enable = false;
  man.enable = false;
  info.enable = false;
  nixos.enable = false;
};

well, at least one of these

[trim valve]

[trim valve]

no men

😔

[sage crag]

correct

[dry charm]

I just use to search valid options that is available, not for testing / generating my config

[trim valve]

fair enough

[sage crag]

nix also has

builtins.toXml {}

and similar

ones for json, ini, toml, at least

the xml one is unintuitive though it caused me suffering

[mighty bane]

Is man for manual?

[sage crag]

manual

[mighty bane]

Yeah that's what I said.

[sage crag]

you said manifest

[mighty bane]

.>
<.<

nu uh

[trim valve]

Linux is very much giving me a "it's easier to just implement stuff myself half the time" vibe and it's a bit annoying

[trim valve]

also

my microphone (which is also my headphones) stops outputting audio if I reboot from nixos to windows

thank you logitech

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

konii shmonii

[maiden geyser]

chmonii

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1439744591837266041/autismu.gif

[supple ivy]

meow

[clear sedge]

woof

[supple ivy]

meow

[dry charm]

yup, thats fine

[clear sedge]

javascript hello world:

[sick owl]

Why is this random all caps tweet in the google news section

[umbral thorn]

more clanka chatbot slop, more pricy ram

[clear sedge]

youwillconsumeslopandyou'lllikeityouwillconsumeslopandyou'lllikeityouwillconsumeslopandyou'lllikeityouwillconsumeslopandyou'lllikeityouwillconsumeslopandyou'lllikeityouwillconsumeslopandyou'lllikeityouwillconsumeslopandyou'lllikeityouwillconsumeslopandyou'lllikeit

[mighty thorn]

Dude by 2028 OpenAI model naming scheme is gonna be the same as the goddamn Minecraft versioning system

[olive sable]

I hope they're bankrupt by then

[mighty thorn]

We are proud to announce the upcoming release of ChatGPT-5.1.20.1-snapshot-w12a16

[simple sky]

So what’s everyone’s goto music for coding?

I usually start out listening to classical, but as the hours go by, and the bugs pile up it slowly transitions into heavy metal and screamo

[mighty thorn]

I listen to green noise, it’s like white noise but instead of wind it’s the sound of the fans on my Nvidia GPU going insane

[rigid snow]

gpt 28 incoming

oh you mean the old one

ye btw they changed it

[nocturne olive]

By 2028 OpenAI will be no more

[olive sable]

I just use my "liked" playlist.
If the vibe for a sing isnt right i just use the media keys on my keyboard to skip it

[rigid snow]

now minecraft is year.featuredrop.patch, so next version is 26.1

⭐

[olive sable]

Nah

[mighty thorn]

Yeah well it’ll be 2038 by the time that naming scheme becomes as iconic as the old one

Wait

2038

Dear god

[rigid snow]

only 12 more years

[mighty thorn]

Unix time is the mastermind behind mojang decision making

[rigid snow]

crazy to think about

[olive sable]

With each new change to mc im liking mojang less and less ngl

[rigid snow]

who cares about the version numbering system like let's be honest

the new one is bad sure but like

[mighty thorn]

Most of their bad decision making can be directly attributed to Microsoft ownership

[olive sable]

Its not only that, its the combination of things they're fucking up

[olive sable]

Oh, fair enough

[rigid snow]

we loooove chat reports on java

best feature

[mighty thorn]

I don’t really hate the “creepers wouldn’t be added today” clip because I think he is right, however I do hate their policies around adding things from real life into the game

Like how they canceled fireflies cause idiot frogs get sick and die

[rigid snow]

thing is literal children play the game

so

it kind of is their responsibility

[mighty thorn]

Most children don’t have the capability to commit violence against sharks or begin selling endangered species on the black market

i hope

[olive sable]

Like i do think thats somewhat fair, but we're sending children to hell in the game to get spicy powder and stuff that into the eyes of tall creaters

All for the purpose of killing a dragon

[sage crag]

what will they do in 3026

[rigid snow]

1026

duh

[mighty thorn]

You guys remember the old old old April fools snapshot where they removed all combat and everything was hearts and stuff

[sage crag]

cheating

[mighty thorn]

That’s what they want to do today

[sage crag]

"they" <- the fictional evil overlords ruining your childhood

[mighty thorn]

I don’t remember if it was called Minecraft 2.0 or the love and hugs update or both

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

I feel like from a feature perspective, they put more effort into some of the april fools updates than the real ones

[sage crag]

i honestly cant understand the complaining though

[clear sedge]

do you guys remember the update where they made opening chests a paid feature as a joke

[sage crag]

the updates have been free for 19+ years

and they give all the old versions as well

and modding community is huge

[hearty notch]

[mighty thorn]

Back in my day that was the bare minimum

[sage crag]

dont like new version just play old version

[olive sable]

Java sure

But bedrock you cant

And the new update made bedrock unplayable

[sage crag]

expecting a game to give you a 19 years of free stuff after a one time purchase was never possible for games that didnt print money

[hearty notch]

back in my day we'd open source our software uphill both ways in the snow

[clear sedge]

what if you want new official features but just hate the direction microsoft is taking the game? suck it up and play random ass mods?

[sage crag]

yes, or write the mods backporting them yourself

[clear sedge]

there's value to complaining

[sage crag]

frankly, its free

[clear sedge]

complaining is how you get change

[visual pawn]

time to start production on Minecraft 2

[sage crag]

already released

as an april fools update

[olive sable]

To me its not about the updates, its cool they make updates.
Its about how they somehow didnt test their update enough to find a number of new different memory leaks and numerous new bugs and glitches in bedrock

[sage crag]

quality assurance is a real problem

especially if you cant backversion to more stable ones

[trim valve]

silly

[clear sedge]

me when chatgpt makes a memory leak

[trim valve]

you see

why must it try and be smart

[olive sable]

Ye

[trim valve]

I want my commands to run before it checks for a display

[sage crag]

try and escape the environment

[trim valve]

[sage crag]

shell injection go go

[trim valve]

fork sunshine

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

Welp, i need to start doing my C# homework

I dont like C#

[sage crag]

write in f#

[olive sable]

Kinda like, not allowed

[clear sedge]

c# is nice

i prefer java myself

[sage crag]

dont mention java-like languages otherwise

[olive sable]

Bruh

[sage crag]

@brisk lake

wow

wrong ping

sorry

@nocturne olive

[rigid snow]

random person

[olive sable]

I dont like c# and i dislike java

[clear sedge]

java is lowkey peak programming

[olive sable]

No

[clear sedge]

best general purpose language

[sage crag]

[clear sedge]

[olive sable]

Im not here for general purpose, im here for games

[clear sedge]

i'm here to argue java is based for game dev too

especially post-21

[olive sable]

Does java have vulkan?

[rigid snow]

what

[clear sedge]

yis

[olive sable]

Hmmm

[rigid snow]

but you said you don't like it

[olive sable]

Aaah i got flashbanged by my pc

[clear sedge]

look into lwjgl

has vulkan

has opengl

has openal

[trim valve]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-quick-explosion-gif-13473705226452266662

[olive sable]

No no no, thats for babies

[trim valve]

why must the linux version of this suck so much

it works fine on windows

[olive sable]

There is no point if you dont do the vulkan yourself

[clear sedge]

it literally just serves as a thin wrapper over vulkan

[rigid snow]

then write your own version of lwjgl in cpp

sam's heavy weight java game library

[clear sedge]

it's basically just an api that lets you use opengl and vulkan easily

think of it as sdl for java

[rigid snow]

wait what's this button do

where does it add them

oh it lets you choose the server after you select the file nvm

[sage crag]

i am a

file server

for

generative files

generated by

my brain

[olive sable]

it does its own memory utilities

still, i dont like programming in java-like lanaguages

so even if it was decent i wouldnt use it

[sage crag]

"not decent" being "not handrolled vulkan"

[rigid snow]

use a non-java like jvm language

[sage crag]

NeverShipAnything™

[rigid snow]

hell yeah

i should get a shirt that says that

[sage crag]

subtitle "We don't do the things others can't"

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

Wa

[rigid snow]

java mentioned you know what to do

[sage crag]

second subtitle in even smaller text: "we did write half a vulkan engine though"

[nocturne olive]

Kotlin better

[rigid snow]

exaaactly

[clear sedge]

if you want to, you can use java's ffi to link directly against libvulkan.so

[sage crag]

nix on jvm when

[olive sable]

i could, but i wont cuz i dont like java

[clear sedge]

your loss

[olive sable]

yeo

i sure did

and it runs good

[sage crag]

sam works for NeverShipAnything?

[olive sable]

no

i did in fact ship something

[sage crag]

they are the N and the A in faang

[rigid snow]

not true he shipped ||half|| a game

[olive sable]

twice

[sage crag]

half a game twice is basically half a game twice

[olive sable]

i do make games occasionally

i have released 1 very bad, and 1 decently good game so far

[lost hill]

It reminded me of some GitHub accounts where the first repo is "hello world" and the second one is some advanced utility that I came to download.

The same vibe

[nocturne olive]

-# One of them is also technically a kinda NeuroSynth ad

[olive sable]

[nocturne olive]

Well NeuroSynth didn't exist so it's more of a Neuro RVC ad

We need a new game that features NeuroSynth

[visual pawn]

I'm guessing a lot of those are because of private repos

at least mine is 90% private

[lost hill]

Or, most probably, not everyone uploads their projects to the hub

[olive sable]

HANK

HANK

[visual pawn]

well I guess I also have an alt github account for non-work stuff

[olive sable]

DON'T ABBREVIATE GITHUB AS THE HUB

[clear sedge]

i hate the hub

[visual pawn]

do you use the hub, the lab, or do you use the version instead?

[clear sedge]

i use the berg

[visual pawn]

or do you just throw it all in the box?

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

:3

[trim valve]

:3

[uneven pulsar]

:3

[rough bloom]

:3

[clear sedge]

:3

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

[lost hill]

I usually say just ‘hub’ and ‘lab’ if in the context of Git platforms. I don't really ever think about that other ‘hub’ for me to care enough.

Though ‘GH’ is acceptable

[clear sedge]

or berg

codeberg is a thing and it's actually based

best git platform hands down

treats code as an art, disallows ai scrapers via anubis

whereas github and gitlab treat code as a tool no one has any passion for, as evident by their scraping of user repositories for their own ai bs

i refuse to bend the knee to microsoft and refer to code as anything less than an art

[trim valve]

that's almost 4 days of downtime this year

[rough bloom]

below 99%

[clear sedge]

idk man i've never had any issues ¯_(ツ)_/¯

even then, a tiny bit of downtime in exchange for free hosting and true ownership of your repos?
worth it

[trim valve]

"tiny bit"

[clear sedge]

just host your own forgejo instance if you're concerned with their uptime

[trim valve]

that's sorta the option I'd prefer tbf

[clear sedge]

the free hosting and anubis already being set up is worth it for me, i don't care for downtime i've never experienced

[trim valve]

fair enough I guess, I sorta don't see the point of moving to less-well-known platforms unless there's a material benefit for me

like if I selfhost, then it makes it much more "reasonable" to do cursed stuff

otherwise I like the support of tools for github and stuff

[visual pawn]

I do wonder what the divide is between developers who have a passion for code itself as an art and those who see it as a means to an end

I'm pretty sure I'm closer to the latter

as in, what you can do with it versus it itself

[obsidian mantle]

i woundt say i enjoy the process very much but when i look at it go and it works

its just beautiful

the process is alright especially when you solve something that looks hard to solve

[visual pawn]

yeah I get that too, but I feel that more in the sense of look what I got working or look at what's possible

[tender river]

oo me not use emacs same reason

[visual pawn]

it probably didn't help that it was always drilled into me that it's better to write bad code that's simpler than amazing code that's complex

[obsidian mantle]

i faced the consequencies of over-flexibility at work

the shit has too many settings

[visual pawn]

as in making something with the mind of the developer as the user rather than the actual user?

[trim valve]

for me it sorta depends on the project

[obsidian mantle]

we tried to make things the way that you dont need to change the code in process

[trim valve]

uni work? that can be as "means to an end" as possible

[obsidian mantle]

and can just adjust settings

[trim valve]

something myself, that can take as long as I need? sure, make it pretty

at one point I wasa making a minecraft server in rust and made a pretty macro for defining packets

[obsidian mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[visual pawn]

most of what I make is done with a clinician as the end user and lemme tell you

if there's one kind of user that doesn't give a shit how beautiful the program is or the theoretical possibilities

I had one doctor refuse to try a robot control software because we had a gamepad instead of a ball mouse and he refused to touch anything but a ball mouse

"ok we'll get a ball mouse next time, but can you tell us what you think about this now?"

"there's no ball mouse"

[sage crag]

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrred

[trim valve]

its a goofy thing in the minecraft protocol, basically "read the rest of the packet as raw bytes, allowing up to this many bytes"

[sage crag]

[trim valve]

which is a pain to express nicely sometimes

[clear sedge]

have you implemented compression yet?

[visual pawn]

something goofy about minecraft? say it ain't so lol

[olive sable]

[clear sedge]

minecraft's client-server communication is based on protobuf

..kind of

[trim valve]

huh

[clear sedge]

it's inspired by protobuf

[trim valve]

it doesn't even use the same varint encoding does it?

[clear sedge]

hence why you get varints

[clear sedge]

it uses a very similar encoding

literally described as protobuf varints by some

[trim valve]

also the mc protocol is very mmuch not self describing

[clear sedge]

yeah you have different packet ids and structures instead of some weird json struct

[trim valve]

nah lazy

pretty easy though from memory

[olive sable]

imagine compressing your data

[clear sedge]

minecraft servers compress packets over a certain size by default

[olive sable]

i dont

[clear sedge]

though at least in 1.8 the client does technically have the ability to tell the server that its packets aren't compressed iirc

i don't think the notchian client does this

[trim valve]

I think you have to explicitly enable compression?

[clear sedge]

there's a slight difference in your initial handshake yes

[olive sable]

oh

my discord randomly restarted

[tender river]

??? varints were not invented by protobuf

[clear sedge]

where did i say that?

[tender river]

ok let me rephrase

varints does not imply protobuf inspiration

[clear sedge]

wiki.vg directly stated protobuf's varint implementation

[tender river]

...does not mean its inspired by protobuf

that was just a convenient reference for wiki.vg to use

[clear sedge]

possibly

i still choose to believe it's protobuf-inspired

[trim valve]

but also

[ember hound]

chat how do you get a new job, i feel so bored by my current job routine

[tender river]

impossible

[clear sedge]

just luck out

[visual pawn]

know people

[olive sable]

i think you kinda jsut look on the job market, and if you find something cool you talk to them, and if they think you might fit the job you gotta arrange your departure from the other job

disclaimer: i have never done this

knowing people helps too ye, nepotism is easy way to the good life

[visual pawn]

not even just necessarily nepotism; if you need to hire someone it's easier to reach out and inform someone you already know and worked with

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1374684508674330684/1374684509072658442/drumsevil.gif

[patent shard]

How do you change timezone cookie settings on Android

I can do it on Firefox desktop, so I assumed you can do it on phone, too
But.. hmm

[patent shard]

I might have to delete the cookie and then change phone time and then it'll be replaced with a new one

Worked

[warped narwhal]

Diplosia has been typing up a whole thesis

[rigid locust]

Kind of a dumb question but for the ai developers in here is it possible to create a dual ai system? Both run simultaneously but interact with each other to find the best fit for both logic systems, i ask because i think it would be interesting to create one ai that runs purely on simulated emotion (essentially programmed with guidelines of the emotional response of superman: ie; human lives before everything, all life is sacred, ect.) and the other purely on logic and see what kind of solutions they can make using both for real world problems

[rigid locust]

Meh kinda

[warped narwhal]

ollama allows you to run multiple models at the same time and it exports an API, so you could create a python script that connects to several instances at once and ferries the messages between each AI

[rigid locust]

Ah okay might be worth looking into. I dont have a pc atm but when i get one ill try this out and post results

[glass flower]

could also go directly with lama.cpp instead of ollama. since that is basically just a wrapper. especially if you wanna load the same model twice and run in parallel instead of in sequence. since i don't think ollama can do that or any wrapper tbh.

like you can have 2 gpu's and each run the same model at the same time

[rigid locust]

Two different models not one

[warped narwhal]

ollama can load the same model twice, it can also run multiple models at once

[glass flower]

hmm..well then disregard what i said

[rigid locust]

No worries lol. It was all purely hypothetical anyway lol

[glass flower]

but maybe direct inference can open up a bit more options instead of using a wrapper. especially if you already plan to use python, there are some good libraries that let you do the inference directly inside of python without a eternal service running

[rigid locust]

Ill keep that in mind.

[glass flower]

might even allow you to directly inject the latents (idk what the memory is called in llm's) of each into eachother instead of passing around text or something

but thats.. probably a bit complex for just testing things

[rigid locust]

I kinda wanted them to pass fully fleshed out thoughts back and forth with minimal effort lmao its just a test as you said lol

Later on id definitely consider updating both systems if i decided the project was something more interesting than just running tests with. If all works out it would be useful as hell essentially each ai would be acting as the left side and right side of a human brain.

[silver heath]

:0

i like the idea of building a brain-like framework with multiple AIs running concurrently

[warped narwhal]

ChatGPT made this script which seems to work:

it gave this output:

~
% python script.py
Enter your question: What is the answer to life, the universe, and everything?

=== Best Final Answer ===
The ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything is often humorously answered by 42 in "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy," serving only as a fictional response. Science, however, remains focused on exploring these mysteries without yet providing a definitive answer, leaving it as one of humanity's greatest unresolved questions due to our current lack of knowledge about the universe's origins and nature.

~ took 2m6s
% 

[sick owl]

Mistral just dropped some new weights

https://x.com/MistralAI/status/1998407335308358028

Mistral AI (@MistralAI)

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X · Dec 9, 2025, 3:00 PM

Mistral large 3 was a flop but this release looks somewhat promising

[rigid locust]

Yeah i woke up and all of a sudden brain blast

[silver heath]

[vestal prism]

IMAGINE having allucinations of multime of them for more pleasure

im learning ruby those days

[silver heath]

[vestal prism]

What in the javascript

i with al my life force and with my inexistent soul hate the thing that Ruby does that just take a standard thing, and change the name to it, why? because yes

is so frustrating

anyways, see ya in a month or so

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

Abo

[opaque sigil]

ba

[sage crag]

tosto

[opaque sigil]

[trim valve]

[hearty notch]

[olive sable]

if tosto is toast, was abo supposed to be me?

[sage crag]

no

[olive sable]

then what was abo?

[olive sable]

oh ado

chando

https://tenor.com/view/ado-ado-cute-silly-ado-silly-little-ado-cute-ado-gif-14449236298685218953

[trim valve]

noway ado mentioned

[vale python]

chat any advice to learning C#

[sage crag]

abo

[olive sable]

ado

[trim valve]

must post only proof of being ado fan

[olive sable]

youtube tutorials, and just learning by trying stuff out

[olive sable]

the dutch

i couldn't go to the concert in Brussels, but my friends went

[vale python]

buh

[sage crag]

real abo

[rigid snow]

pro gram in

g

[olive sable]

contra gram

[rigid snow]

[olive sable]

We had ado concert at home

took a while to find the picture since this is from august

[trim valve]

ooh very pretty stage

I spent half the concert nerding out about the lights

[olive sable]

one of my middle school friends is now doing stage tech stuff in college

i havnt heard from him in ages actually

[sick owl]

ooo, question btw since you seem to have a tv where its relevant

240hz with display stream compression or 120hz without it?

I'm debating this mentally with myself RE my monitor since the RTX 4090 needs 2:1 DSC for 240hz at 4k

[olive sable]

?

since when do i have a tv where its relevant?

that tv did 60hz and is from 2011 or so

2014*

[tender river]

wtff jealous

[olive sable]

i think my monitors use DSC to get 1440p 180hz hdr from dp 2.0

but honestly im not observant enough to see the difference between DSC and not having DSC

[opaque sigil]

almost as if dsc is specifically designed to be visually indistinguishable

[olive sable]

all these buzzwords are getting confussing

[olive sable]

i think that is the goal ye

[olive sable]

that tv is a LG 49UB850V, dubbed "not only the worst 4K TV we've tested, it's also one of the worst-performing televisions we've reviewed to date" by HDTVTest.co.uk

and i can confirm its not that great of a tv, but it does the job fine

or did i guess, its been replaced by a projector

[rigid snow]

letter e

[olive sable]

i think the worst drawback is this being ips when ips still sucked more than va, and the smart functions were bad and slow and the settings changed automatically and you couldn't properly adjust colour balance cuz the menu for it on screen changed the result and adjsuting 1 value make other colours incorrect for some reason

the video processor also sucked

only hdmi 3 had 10 bit, but only hdmi 1 had hdcp 2.2

and only hdmi 2 had arc

[sick owl]

Oh it looks super nice in that case

[sick owl]

Didn't they find that 14% of study participants with a random population sample could tell the difference 100% of the time in testing

Granted that was at a 3:1 compression ratio whereas HDMI 2.1 4k 10 bit 240hz probably sits around 1.6:1 - 2:1 depending on implementation

[sick owl]

Lmao

The pic is flattering to it I guess

[olive sable]

i think its just the image resolution being low enough to make it not noticable how bad it is

[sick owl]

I wish I had a software toggle for it that didn't rely on MSIs gaming intelligence junk that randomly changes OSD settings

That way noticeable or not I wouldn't have to deliberate over it

[olive sable]

i jsut set my resolution and refreshrate in the hyprland config, and its choosing to do dsc somewhere in the back-end i guess

[olive sable]

"bright scenes look fairly good in a room with a moderate amount of ambient light" according to the same review guys

so i think the picture was taken int he best possible circumstances for the tv

[sick owl]

Tbh even if 14% of people can tell apparently TFTcentral couldn't see a difference