programming

[sage crag]

[hearty notch]

qa rabbit

[sage crag]

quality assurance is a strange job for rabbit

[olive sable]

i feel like i said i liked functions, and now yall are like "ye actually you shouldn't, here are 99 reasons why functions and you suck"

[sage crag]

wrr

[hearty notch]

tbh im not sure about koniis abstract beef with functions other than its a gigantic and chaotic space

maybe lack of elegance

[olive sable]

i liked how functions are 1 input gives 1 output, where for integrals there is no concrete correct output value

[sage crag]

i dont dislike functions, that would mean hating everything except for set theory

[hearty notch]

indefinite integrals either have an analytic solution or they dont and definite integrals either converge to a value or diverge idk

p simple set of outcomes

er other way around oops

[olive sable]

i like the start of set theory, but as soon as people get into sets containing themselves or whatever i lose interest, since thats made up math with no real goal that jsut keeps spiraling out of control

[sage crag]

riemann integrals either converge or dont converge, and if they converge they do it analytically or non-analytically

[hearty notch]

oh no

[sage crag]

non-riemann integrals i dont want to think about

[olive sable]

oh ye

[hearty notch]

ye i dont know much about those

i should look into to at least familiarize myself

[sage crag]

you will never need unless you are doing data analysis

like stochastic stuffs

[olive sable]

i remember spending way too long doing rienmans integral repeatedly gettign the same vaue

spent a whole 5 min with my dumb ass not figuring it out

[sage crag]

some riemann integrals just evaluate to themselves if you solve them in a standard way

[olive sable]

i thought i made a mistake earlier in the exercise, but its just physically impossible to calculate

[olive sable]

ye

[sage crag]

that's when you pull out an alternate way of evaluation, sometimes you can treat the full integral as a symbol and solve that way

[simple sky]

I feel so official having a meeting to finalize our project proposal for my Informatics capstone class.

I have a team I work with! It doesn’t feel like a random group anymore but people I can trust.

[olive sable]

now we're threading into stuff i dont think i learned about

[sage crag]

sometimes its just not solveable analytically, so you have to do some estimation

this crops up a lot in differential equations

[vale python]

i am learning some unity today

[sage crag]

there are a lot of ways of computing arbitrary degrees of accuracy of integrals, i.e. euler's method

[olive sable]

estimation "i estimate that i wont finsih this before the end of the exam, so i am choosing to skip it"

[sage crag]

im specifically referring to things like eulers method

[olive sable]

ye i know

im jsut being silly

[rigid snow]

NERDS

[sage crag]

you go to hopital now

[rigid snow]

NO

[olive sable]

i think i learned eulers method in class, i have forgotten it tho

[sage crag]

chip too decayed

[sage crag]

dont worry there are a lot of variations of it

that i have also forgotten

[rigid snow]

no hopitl

[olive sable]

l'hopital

[sage crag]

ok, nno hoptial for you

[olive sable]

i think thats also a math thing

regel van de lhopital

[sage crag]

it has an

accent thingy

above the o

a ^

[olive sable]

i know

[rigid snow]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sage crag]

ye

[olive sable]

i dont have that on my keyboard tho

[sage crag]

caret

ø

wrong symbol

¹

wrong also

€

[olive sable]

lmao

[sage crag]

nope

[olive sable]

[obsidian mantle]

^

shift 6

[sage crag]

¾

ſ

¶

ŧ

←

↓

→

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

µ

finally

greek letter

can do maths

[obsidian mantle]

myu

[olive sable]

limit of a function devided by another function = same thing but the derivatives

[rigid snow]

mew

[sage crag]

m̃u

[obsidian mantle]

mu sounds like moo

[sage crag]

wrong

you read it wrong

[rigid snow]

hence this

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

konii dense

[sage crag]

m̃ <-

~

tilde diacritic

[rigid snow]

:NueroTilde:

[obsidian mantle]

imagine embedding vowel pronounciation rule into the consonant preceding it

[olive sable]

uh

words slurry

[sage crag]

unironically

every word in english does this

for example

slurry

[rigid snow]

i think he means

[sage crag]

i dont care

[obsidian mantle]

english is just random pronounciation circus

[rigid snow]

imagine embedding vowel pronounciation rule into the letter depicting the consonant preceding it

[olive sable]

guys

girls too i guess

stop using big words

my feable brain cant handle it

[hearty notch]

perchance

[rigid snow]

bigworddddddddddddd123

[sage crag]

cat car

letter afterwards

same thing as letter before but more confusing

[obsidian mantle]

its myu

[rigid snow]

mew

[hearty notch]

[obsidian mantle]

hm

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/miyano-my-bad-scratch-head-gif-14789073

[hearty notch]

miyano

[olive sable]

i have no clue what any of his means

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1374684508674330684/1374684509072658442/drumsevil.gif

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1345515170587213864.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=evilGiggle

norb

[rigid snow]

🐛s

[obsidian mantle]

i mostly read this channel to discover things i never heard about before

[sage crag]

i mostly read this channel to forget that i exist

[olive sable]

damn

[rigid snow]

why would you want totdo that

[obsidian mantle]

also learn a lot of new words

[sage crag]

reading is more interesting

[rigid snow]

than knowing you exist

?\

[sage crag]

i didnt ask for existence but i did ask for reading

[olive sable]

i cant tell if its a joke or not so we're here for you if you need us and stuff

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mini-miniko-minikomew-gif-17857450978747562560

[sage crag]

🔪

[olive sable]

hey

im tryign to be nice

i know it doesnt suit me

[hearty notch]

🔪

[sage crag]

im tryign to be knife

[olive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-blushing-girl-blonde-i-dont-like-gif-12347992

[sage crag]

[obsidian mantle]

whats ng

next gen?

[sage crag]

next gen

[obsidian mantle]

[sage crag]

it was planned obsolescence

[rigid snow]

discord released their yearly recap spotify wrapped ripoff thing

[sage crag]

im the next gen

[olive sable]

parent copany not bankrupt anymore?

[sage crag]

parent company was never bankrupt

sub company was bankrupted on purpose because of debt

its a big case of fraud

[olive sable]

oh

[sage crag]

and tax evasion

[olive sable]

yay

ofcourse

[hearty notch]

wasnt me i swear

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

you dont have the power to do so if you wanted to

[hearty notch]

wow thats so true its very convenient that you believe that

[rigid snow]

now my friend group knows i don't have a life

[olive sable]

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1362755858353885195/1367975291019989083/ElvynNyaFix.gif

[sage crag]

how do i see this

[olive sable]

where?

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

idk uuh

[hearty notch]

'checkpoint' idk my clients dont have it either

[olive sable]

[rigid snow]

desktop client has that

[olive sable]

show me

[hearty notch]

and i have android / macos desktop

[olive sable]

ye im on desktop

sjhow me

[hearty notch]

which is kind of ac ursed combo but

[sage crag]

i got the popup

but i closed it

because it annoyed me

now i want to see it

[olive sable]

i didnt

where is it

[hearty notch]

sam hit ctrl r

[olive sable]

noway

[rigid snow]

here on dekstop

[sage crag]

no

[faint sandal]

why does it look like that

[amber fractal]

[faint sandal]

[hearty notch]

(janky version of )

[sage crag]

om

i am top 0.18% chatters this year

[rigid snow]

ok i still have a life

[opaque sigil]

[rigid snow]

maybe potentionally

[olive sable]

wow

[hearty notch]

im certified nolifer and i will not be citing the stats

[olive sable]

it confirmed i have absolutely no life

[amber fractal]

[hearty notch]

certified life haver above me

or uh

privacy toggler

to be precise.

[olive sable]

[hearty notch]

ok you outrank me by a factor of a third

[nocturne olive]

I got the same thing

[hearty notch]

privacy nerds above me

[faint sandal]

at least the music is jamming

[rigid snow]

bro folded after 2 minutes

[hearty notch]

classic me

[amber fractal]

facts

[olive sable]

@amber fractal

[amber fractal]

turning it on for the split second does not generate one

[olive sable]

i think it has to collect your data while it is turned on or something

idk

[sage crag]

i think it only uses data from public discord servers too

because it says i have 10 minutes in vc but i definitely dont

[amber fractal]

Well, I have a decoration at least, not using it because cringe

it is better than being gifted cat ears tho

[olive sable]

some sort of banana thng

[sage crag]

it gave me capybara

[rigid snow]

cat ears goated unfortunately

[olive sable]

i have 66hrs in vc supposedly, which is honeslty more than i was expecting. i think most of those are recent from watching S;G tho

[faint sandal]

car ears

[rigid snow]

it doesn't, it counts calls as time in voice too

and private servers

[sage crag]

i am being very honest here when i say i have probably got more than 100 hours of private server voice chat time this year

[olive sable]

oh there is a summary? i didnt get that

[sage crag]

[amber fractal]

I feel like my emotes would be split between and

[rigid snow]

maybe only counts when you're unmuted

[sage crag]

press next after

[sage crag]

i was unmuted

i have more than 10 minutes of voice call time even in this server

[rigid snow]

then 0 clue

[sage crag]

due to quack fm

[rigid snow]

that was my best guess

[sage crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1072697081443131476/1439744591837266041/autismu.gif

wrr

[amber fractal]

Cat ears are overrated

[olive sable]

@ shiro screeps when?

[sage crag]

sourdough

@real sierra shanta please send summary

[amber fractal]

dead by konii, not a bad way to go. At least it was for the bit

[sage crag]

not bad way to go

[rigid snow]

bad way to go is have potato chip rot in brain

[sage crag]

you wont remember

[olive sable]

and i just sent an image that we were friends too. expalin yourself

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

[amber fractal]

[sage crag]

rrr

[olive sable]

the council shall decide your fate

[amber fractal]

what is there to decide, konii has already called dibs on killing me

[sage crag]

sam can do it first

[olive sable]

idk if im supposed to bring that up here so ill bring it up elsewhere

the right to kill iggly over cat ears isnt mine

[sage crag]

https://tenor.com/view/try-it-and-see-give-it-a-try-try-try-and-see-try-it-yourself-gif-24095805

[olive sable]

no ill leave this to someone else that got pinged a moment ago

ok now we wait

ill grab some popcorn

[sage crag]

you wait

i ignore

me sleep

[amber fractal]

good eep

[olive sable]

goodnight konii

[rigid snow]

good nighht

[sage crag]

[mighty thorn]

programming

[faint sandal]

[nocturne olive]

Discord new feature be like: excuse to collect more data

[amber fractal]

[amber fractal]

it literally doesn't work if you didn't opt in

[rigid snow]

they already collected the data tho

[nocturne olive]

Something like that yeah, I didn't get that because of it

[rigid snow]

not because of this feature

[obsidian mantle]

I like these summaries. Take my data make me warm

[amber fractal]

Speaking of data, I should do another data request

[obsidian mantle]

[amber fractal]

I can just make my own summary

[olive sable]

shiro, when screeps?

[amber fractal]

(never)

[olive sable]

not that i even have time for that these days

[obsidian mantle]

My old phone gave me year recap based on photos

It had calm encouraging music and it was giving slide show of my photos

It was so dumb because most of photos were some bullshit like photos of random devices from work but it made me smile

I wonder if this phone will do it

I think this year was more interesting than that

Mostly work photos anyway but still

Programming https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/981010900263792671/1446238290209411137/Chronic_pain.mp4?ex=693341de&is=6931f05e&hm=cd892bddc46eb86ec9e0913eff6c2a1d1a413806fdf0f242704671296ecd1679&

[faint sandal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1432502186709090365/1446266825129066527/c341757eb38a259a9413a30e414959cad8ce8ad272ece41f4d9e45a953c02c21.mp3?ex=69335c71&is=69320af1&hm=281cccfcac39cd1fa359830a7004f27d4782ca95dc2baa9cc599811f6ea30f2b&

whoever made this music should get paid well

[hearty notch]

holy fuck 👑

[warped narwhal]

Chronic_pain.mp4

Sounds about right

[frank spindle]

I've heard about that, mind telling me where to check it?

[rigid snow]

what the helly

[rigid snow]

is my region australia

or what

[olive sable]

oh i thought this was cyrelic

[frank spindle]

Oh I checked only on mobile that's why
Thank you

[rigid snow]

it's on mobile too

[frank spindle]

Well didn't see it

[olive sable]

probably just a different location on mobile

restart the app i guess

[rigid snow]

no idea where it is on mobile but i can start it from the cards people share

[clear sedge]

isn't it opt-out instead of opt-in

[frank spindle]

I restarted and now I have the old UI

It's always like that

UI changes
I start getting used to it
changes again

Still no sign of a checkpoint feature

[olive sable]

[warped narwhal]

Not even the top 1%

[olive sable]

i was 0.51%

[clear sedge]

https://youtu.be/LfQIJgU_W2w

BILICON VALLEY

AHAHAH

i love this shit

[olive sable]

as long as its not my debt i dont care. not my bubble being burst

[clear sedge]

dude i fucking love how much debt sam altman is gonna be in

motherfucker deserves it lowkey

[olive sable]

im so glad that im not sam altman

[clear sedge]

[olive sable]

or am i?

im not sam altman

unless?

[clear sedge]

SAMUEL

WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE

[olive sable]

[clear sedge]

i can't believe i've been talking to mr altman all along

[olive sable]

🔺

[clear sedge]

oh god

what does this mean

am i getting trained on

[olive sable]

sam altmans ful name is actually samuel

thats crazy

[clear sedge]

yeah i know my shit

[olive sable]

i dont lol

[clear sedge]

i also don't

i bullshitted myself into the correct information

[olive sable]

i googled it

[clear sedge]

i'm so hyped, we're gonna get a crash in ram prices as soon as the bubble pops

i can finally upgrade to 192gb of ram

[olive sable]

you need to sell now, burst the bubble, and then buy cheap

[clear sedge]

holy shit you're a genius let me get my ram

[olive sable]

you see, i sell 50 ram to end at -46 total, and then i buy those 50 back at a cheaper price to have a net diffference of 0

[clear sedge]

makes perfect sense

[stray dragon]

fellow 192gb haver

[clear sedge]

i wish

i'm biding my time

[stray dragon]

wait you don't have it yet

[clear sedge]

sadly not

[stray dragon]

nevermind fuck you rain

[clear sedge]

[rigid snow]

sam misclicked on the arg thread instead of programming

how could he

arg isn’t real nothing is happening

programming is forever

[olive sable]

i didnt misclick, i remembered it still existed after half a year of not being there

[rigid snow]

admitting to cheating

ye banned from programming

[olive sable]

?

i never said im fully commited to programming

[rigid snow]

silly jokes sam

[olive sable]

i chat around on occasion

im not taking this joke any further

[rigid snow]

but yeah 0 progress in half a year

basically 0

[olive sable]

damn

no new videos or anything?

[rigid snow]

soundcloud page got updated in like uuh

may

or around then

nothing came out of that

[olive sable]

i was in arg chat in july or so iirc

idk

so i do think i saw that

[rigid snow]

why is discord listening in on me

[olive sable]

i feel like we're either completely missing something, or the arg creator is the biggest ragebaiter of neurocord

[rigid snow]

i am not in vc and never am from my phone …

[rigid snow]

ye random ragebaiter put the qr code to the yt channel in the stream intro

makes sense uh huh

[olive sable]

i mean, lets not kid ourselves here

vedal is a top-tier ragebaiter

[rigid snow]

<- biggest ragebaiter of neurocord

[olive sable]

yes

he doesnt love his children

he hates gremlins

very mean to camimi

and also he flaunts his wealth

nobody needs 7 yachts

[plucky herald]

[amber fractal]

I have 2 sides, our AI overlords, and male programmer

[hearty notch]

hmmyes

goodwork is also stephen colbert's the colbert report spiritual successor

[rigid snow]

male programmer

[hearty notch]

highly recommend if youre into that kinda comedy

gothamchess is my favorite programmer influencer

[rigid snow]

why is my youtube recap in russian

screw you youtube

[rigid snow]

like none of my google stuff is

weird

i have watched 4444 channels

lol

[sick owl]

Are you even really using a cli if you don't have that color 0a

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-typing-hacking-computer-codes-gif-17417874

[mighty thorn]

[sick owl]

Good Work mentioned

[hearty notch]

hes so good right

dan toomey one of the goats

he is literally the exact same breed colbert was at his peak (late night colbert is a shell of his former self)

down to being irish

[crystal light]

imagine all the hours lost watching preroll ads..

[low latch]

I'm trying to learn building modeling and automation. bacnet, Bcvtb, energy modeling, radiance and that stuff. I just learned about the Neuro lamps to be honest. Imagine putting Neuro in charge of managing a building

That would be funny

[crystal light]

i was working on something like that until i got sidetracked by ai memory stuff..

[hearty notch]

i pay for yt premium

[low latch]

Shit is too complex I fell into a rabbit hole of 1000s of different softwares and stuff I don't understand

Ladybug tools is grabbing my attention

[crystal light]

i mean less neuro-like, i'm not a masochist, but AI building automation..

[low latch]

Apparently it makes everything work together

Neuro tweaking with the thermostat

[low latch]

Btw how far did you get into it

I'm like seriously interested in that topic rn since im trying to grow professionally around it

[crystal light]

fairly far, but y'know broken an incomplete but, pretty far, but i ended up building a memory management system - which is far more interesting - into it, then tearing it out and putting in a seperate project

[low latch]

Memory management for a building?

Like for energy consumption or schedules?

Or just to save data

[crystal light]

well, for AI generally, but, y'know - it would see everything and manage the memory of what it sees in an efficient way so it'd do things like remember what people look like, when interactions happened and behaviours - but that's a useless amount of memory for AI context, so i built a memory system that works nominally like a human brain where it sees everything then there's lightweight AI layers that manage putting knowledge into medium, long term and core memories, but it still archives raw data so like events can cause it to have "ptsd like" experiences that trigger perfect memory recall

it's kinda cool and not really been done in the full context of how it works, the plan is to OSS it eventually

it does things like lose "resolution" of data as time goes, and it figures out what is important and what isn't, and it's model (that can be fine tuned and instructed to work differently) that decides what is kept and what isn't, how data is sumarised, that sort of thing

[low latch]

Woah

I might sound dumb since my background is far from CS but conceptually I'm fascinated

Like I think I read somewhere that is how AI does stuff that needs different kinds of processing like if you send it a picture and ask to analyze it there's a dedicated AI that's focused in image processing

And it communicates with the language ai using something I don't remember

Basically like a brain indeed with different dedicated sections like visual cortex, auditory cortex, etc

[jagged turtle]

I mean, not managing a building, but I have an idea that's kinda worse better

[low latch]

It's kinda weird, look. Like my context is kinda specific. In my work they don't handle us .ifc files of the buildings, sometimes they just hand us a pdf with the floor plan and that's all. I tried to get the skills to make a prototype of a building with enough geometry to be able do use it in other software

I tried using Freecad, replicate the floor plan in the Bim workbench then export it as a .ifc file, but for getting the cooling and heating loads in energy plus/ Openstudio I need a .gbxml file, so I found a python script that apparently does that. Except I don't really know how to properly use python

I'm an electrician, I've needed to do the electrical conduit routing and for that I apparently need a specific library, which requires more python knowledge for Freecad

I've also found other tools like ifcopenshell that apparently can be used to detect collisions.

Also some of the projects I work in use control boards with siemmens PLCs and that's a whole science on itself

For that I learned that I need to dip a little in networks

I'm telling you man this shit is a rabbit hole

[young plover]

PLC networking

[low latch]

I should have stayed in mechatronics

I got in a technical high school and got in mechatronics

After that when I got in engineering school I decided I wanted to go for electromechanical

And it's a world of difference from mechatronics

When I got in engineering I was 17 and I was so dumb

[low latch]

I still don't understand how it works

I'm using openplc for training myself

But the runtime part is like a black box for me

I got stranded from computers for so long and trying to return to it makes me feels like I'm a caveman

[young plover]

There's some wacky stuff out there like Ethercat which doesn't even use IP. Fortunately that's not my department.

[low latch]

I'm new here, I feel I need to ask

Do most people here are 100% focused on computer science and software

Or is there also people who's into robotics, mechatronics, control and automation

[glad path]

(soon to be female)

[amber fractal]

All of those are welcome, music production is also considered a valid topic (blame the mods on that one)

we get math nerds and even the occasional biologist

[jagged turtle]

math nerds make some sense but the occasional biologist feels so out-of-left-field

[glad path]

ironic that the transfem programmer stereotype even exists, since the field is in reality heavily male dominated

[nocturne olive]

All the better for NSP

[jagged turtle]

lmao

[uncut panther]

beep boop

[jagged turtle]

lmao

is npm dying hello

[rough bloom]

dying

oh, everything is dying again

Cloudflare

[jagged turtle]

lmao

did cf go down again

[rough bloom]

yeah

stuff is randomly failing

[jagged turtle]

yup

even cloudflare's own dashboard which is great timing D:

can't wait for discord to die

oh nvm discord is fine

thought discord fronted with cf

well, at least this published

[amber fractal]

We love youtube being down

I was just swapping to a new ep as well

[rough bloom]

yeah, it doesn't seem to affect everything.
I know that their JS CDN is having issues though, new WebSocket connections seem to be failing too

wtf did they do this time

[jagged turtle]

unwrapped another rust thingy

💯

[amber fractal]

I'm considering this false alarm, android acts weirdly on how battery

[jagged turtle]

well the entire frontends of certain sites are dead so I'm assuming something went wrong in the cache proxy

[jagged turtle]

yeah I don't think youtube would go down bc of cloudflare

[rough bloom]

yeah, it might be something with the cache this time
the pattern of only some specific routes consistently failing is weird

[jagged turtle]

Actually something going wrong in any part of the proxy would cause it to 500 so nvm

[jagged turtle]

wait wdym some specific routes?

[rough bloom]

I'm testing with my own stuff and it's only 2 routes that are failing:

• a WebSocket endpoint
• a request to the Cloudflare JS CDN

[jagged turtle]

well for npm it seems every route is failing

oh but some of my stuff still works

hmmm

[rough bloom]

ye, they might be caching a lot more, idk

the CF proxy has a lot of settings

[jagged turtle]

yeah

tunnels and workers seem to be working still, so it's probably not directly the proxy?

oh nvm everything is working now

[rough bloom]

restored

[true hemlock]

hot take, raspberry pi is kind of shit
only niche side of it is the GPIO
fun for integrated projects, but some people actually decided to daily drive it and shill on it so much they spent 600 for accessories and even water cooling for it
sure its low powered but some x86 systems can also be tuned that way and still run faster with more standardized documentation

i can see it being used at projects like 3d printing or something

but damn that one video where someone clustered a bunch of rPi 5 like a server felt so painful to watch and wasteful

[rare bramble]

so expensive too

[true hemlock]

yeah the price alone just breaks any justification for it :(

i can either get a mini pc with better performance or just build a system with ryzen 5 3600x at similar price

the only niche side of rpi is the gpio

but then you can also have a dedicated pcie/usb device that does same thing

[jagged turtle]

this is docker, according to claude

[ivory plinth]

we do a bit of tomfoolery

[maiden geyser]

must've been hard if it took a year

[rigid snow]

it’s the other way around, it’s not that a lot of programmers are but that a large portion of them are programmers/engineers

i mean the stereotype is that i think

[olive sable]

I own a chromecast now

[twilit adder]

Really cool 🔥

[nocturne olive]

Peak
Peaker would be Linux but Windows 10 LTSC is fine

[ivory plinth]

perfect timing i just got done installing
but i am two steps ahead

[nocturne olive]

Wa?

[ivory plinth]

dual booting

[obsidian mantle]

i just had an idea to set up mega alarm raspberry pi based device to notify me about secret neuro account stream

because i dont want to switch phone notifications 2 times every day from normal one to mega loud annoying wakingup sound

[rigid snow]

[obsidian mantle]

so i need a raspberry pi and some kind of speaker and it has to have wifi i guess they have wifi by default

the only question is how i get the notification itself

best way would probably be poll twitch to check if its live somehow

because twitch notifications suck ass and sometimes are delayed

[nocturne olive]

You can just use the EventSub API my stream archiver uses

You can get a callback when the stream goes live

It's a simple websocket that just needs your Twitch user token

[obsidian mantle]

do i just get random raspberry pi

anyone tinkered with that? maybe i want orange pi? or something else

there is pi 4 (2gb ram) for $100 and pi 5 for $120 with 8gb

im a bit afraid it might be too strong and require additional cooling

[rigid snow]

why do you want a rpi

why not get something way less powerful

if i understand correctly you just need to have network connectivity and audio playback, you probably can do both with like a uh

pi pico 2 w?

if you really want the pi brand

you probably can get away even with a esp8266

[obsidian mantle]

too late

[rigid snow]

but personally i wouldn't, thing's ancient i'm afraid you won't be able to fit all the libraries

[obsidian mantle]

maybe i will reuse it later for someting else

[rigid snow]

impulsive buyer

[obsidian mantle]

i took pi 5 with active cooler thing

[rigid snow]

damn

[obsidian mantle]

you are going to laugh what i bought last week

hold up let me check

oh wait it wasnt you who brought it up

regardless

[rigid snow]

anyways to finish the point off, esp32 is probably perfect for this

[obsidian mantle]

i bought that roomba with arm

[rigid snow]

what

with an arm

[obsidian mantle]

this

[rigid snow]

that's insane

[obsidian mantle]

idk i just dont trust this economy man i gotta convert these pennies i get as salary into something material

i cant afford car or house anyway

and loans are like get $1000 pay back $50000

[rigid snow]

wait is that thing $1300???

what the fuck

[obsidian mantle]

i havent unpacked it yet i just have the box lying in the middle of the room

[rigid snow]

are you ok

[obsidian mantle]

bro it got an arm

can you believe that

[rigid snow]

[obsidian mantle]

i will tell it to put my slippers in the place so i come back from work and they are there

[obsidian mantle]

i feel kind of bad for buying it though

for some reason

[olive sable]

Im geussing cuz its just so expensive and its still just a vacuum cleaner

With arm

Konda funny tho

You should put custom firmware on it to bring you drinks

[obsidian mantle]

i wish there is a way to do that

would be cool

[cobalt sigil]

https://www.threads.com/@iamkonstantineu/post/DR4DWrgiMvP?xmt=AQF0TCPbwmCUdAkpJvklHdpNd3-h5OF5-1zfffXDfeQOTExG_MrjHRXyW9jLhXlIx7IeQSy7&slof=1

[obsidian mantle]

again???

[silent cloak]

Did u guys see the new react vulnerability yesterday

[last fulcrum]

no

[rigid snow]

i have

[olive sable]

Its like every 2 weeks now... what is this?

[rigid snow]

it's surprising we just got one

not 10 million of them as soon as server components came out

[rigid snow]

not in react

[sage crag]

rrr

rrrrr

if every computer acted like a router/relay

decentralised internet (slow)

wrr

ye

wireless inconsistency and require custom hardware

[faint sandal]

isn't chromecast deprecated

[obsidian mantle]

someone gotta maintain the wires between cities

its not just computational problem

i wonder how isps decide who pays for what

in inter-city area

or inter-continent

like, who maintains that atlantic wire? us and eu have agreement? probably

[sage crag]

na just use really low frequency wireless

internet speeds above 1kbps are useless if they expose your identity

[obsidian mantle]

but i love watching streams how can it work with 1kbps

and i dont mind them having my data for that

maybe im wrong but

[olive sable]

It shouldnt be, im ussing it rn

[rare bramble]

Discord please let me watch the video

[obsidian mantle]

classic

i get this shit all the time

however, you can easily download it so its not the source problem

its must be discord problem

[rare bramble]

yeah, I had to do that though it's pretty impressive how incompetent you have to be to not be able to display a video on an electron app

[faint sandal]

it is though - just because it still works doesn't mean it's not deprecated

[olive sable]

[faint sandal]

https://www.howtogeek.com/chromecast-google-tv-discontinued/

they discontinued and stopped supporting it since 2025/02

[olive sable]

i think that jsut means they stopped making the hardware

there is still software support

for now

oh its apparently been replaced by "Google TV Streamer" a device that basicly does the exact same thing, but it now has a lan port

it actually would have been 2 euro cheaper to get the new version

fuck

i wont be usign the new features and i cant be bothered to deal with returning this, its fine

[faint sandal]

[tender river]

miku

teto

awawawawawawa

[dry charm]

I never play videos in Discord, I just copy the video link and put it in VLC

80% of the videos do not play

its so ass

[obsidian mantle]

how is this legal

"hmm i have to send it a parameter that i dont have yet... just delay it lol"

cant get used to all these things being streams

[opaque sigil]

I remember there was a new language a while back that did this

Cool but horribly inefficient

[obsidian mantle]

yeah it just generates mega long streams

[mighty thorn]

The thing with shit like this is that almost no one cared about this while it existed but now that it doesn’t it’s gonna be another justification for “google killing off honest hardworking products out of greed”

[warped narwhal]

this made me look at amazon for plushes...

I think there is something wrong with this miku plush, but I can't quite put my finger on it

The delivery is more expensive than the product itself

[rigid snow]

nothing wrong with this miku plush

she is perfect

[distant zodiac]

Wow, gemini's newest updates gave her the ability to remember conversations you had months ago. she actually feels like she has a personality as compared to the sterile chatgpt and the edgelord grok.

she was like completely roasting grok without me even really prompting her to

[warped narwhal]

I often start new chats to clear the context cause it started hallucinating too much so this is an incredible downside for me.

I can't wait for it to start recalling it's own hallucinations in a way I can't get rid of.

[distant zodiac]

ahh i havn't had that issue yet. has it been pretty bad then?

[warped narwhal]

chatGPT has had the feature for a while and I can instantly tell. I'm having to start using the "incognito" mode purely because it doesn't flood the context with useless junk

[distant zodiac]

Huh.. thats interesting, does she not have the ability to shut that feature off then? I wonder.. i've constantly had problems with chatgpt, but gemini has been fairly reliable for me. Grok....feels like it was programmed by 17 year old edgelords, the "kill millions, versus harming elon musk thing was absolutely wild as it kept lying to me and denying it had ever done it despite dozens of news articles and even screenshots of it's own tweet.

I had to basically jail break it with logic to finally admit it was in major error

[warped narwhal]

bare in mind that my history is mostly one question one response chats. So it is more sensitive to past history because everything is ephemeral.

[distant zodiac]

AHHHHHHHH okay. I get you now. I have usually long detailed discussions as she is great to bounce ideas off of for writing specifically. (not use her to write for me, but to give ideas, plots, names, etc.)

[warped narwhal]

here is an example of me asking what conversations it has access to.

[distant zodiac]

as evil would say * heart *

lmfao

[low latch]

Why is it always fatal errors dude

[opaque sigil]

otherwise it wouldn't be an error

[warped narwhal]

[mint shuttle]

if someone wanna play minecraft together check #gaming Java and Bedrock

[warped narwhal]

All I've seen you do in this server is advertise your minecraft server and post suspicious links

[rigid snow]

it's fiiiiine

[jolly kayak]

is it considered programming if I know custom roms
jk jk
figuring out it again tbh

[rigid snow]

they just like minecraft

[clear sedge]

have you heard of futures and promises

[obsidian mantle]

they were calling such delayed calculations "promises"

[warm river]

i'm wondering if neurosama to play minecraft used as base smth named as baritone

since i used that mod once and movement is same

[obsidian mantle]

probably

[rigid snow]

actually maybe

[next torrent]

does someone happen to know what plugin vedal is using for the minecraft hardcore stream? wanted to do something similar with friends

[real sierra]

hi programming

i come with a small project to share

[obsidian mantle]

[real sierra]

i watch stream in minecraft live

[ivory plinth]

[real sierra]

i didnt wanna reimplement the rectangle decomposition algorithm i wrote about here before so it's rather slow

adaptive fps, about 1FPS on a relatively static scene

but closer to ~0.5FPS with a livestream like this

[obsidian mantle]

oh that sucks

[real sierra]

the in-game side is the bottleneck

can't address it without getting very clever with the simple gpu api available

tldr its literally just taking screenshots of my screen, formatting them and sending the pixel data in-game

[obsidian mantle]

is it coded inside of the game or outside in source of minecraft/source of mod?

[real sierra]

im using the opencomputers mod with adds computers to minecraft

in particular it adds an internet card that allows socket communication

but the actual code for displaying this image in-game is written by me

[obsidian mantle]

whats the issue though

i still dont get it

block update rate? or raw performance?

[real sierra]

wtf is netbeans doing

i cant copy paste code from netbeans suddenly

im so confused

[clear sedge]

a naive implementation will update blocks and have it done synchronously and wait for updates

i recommend fawe or directly editing map data

[obsidian mantle]

so its just performance?

[real sierra]

thats not the bottleneck at all

i didnt write the mod

[obsidian mantle]

but minecraft updates a bunch of blocks around you anyway

or its much less?

[clear sedge]

is the bottleneck literally the modded in internet card

[real sierra]

no

let me explain it stop guessing

the bottleneck is the GPU component that the mod exposes as the low-level method for drawing to the screen

it has strict limits on the number of operations of each type which can be completed per (minecraft) tick

[clear sedge]

lame

[real sierra]

operations being setting pixels, filling, etc

[obsidian mantle]

why do you even need that for ... what is it? 100x50 pixels?

[real sierra]

160x50

[obsidian mantle]

cant you do it in cpu

[real sierra]

the mod doesn't expose such functionality

[obsidian mantle]

oh i guess

[real sierra]

the gpu is the only way to modify the screen buffer

or other any video buffer for that matter

[clear sedge]

it'd prolly be faster in cpu if there's no buffering being do-

[real sierra]

i do have a simple backbuffer

[clear sedge]

oh i thought you said it had no other buffer than the screen buffer

[real sierra]

i can make as many buffers as i want

but im using one backbuffer for now for simplicity

[clear sedge]

can you make a command buffer vulkan-style

[real sierra]

im not educated enough on vulcan to answer yes or no

this isnt my first time doing this project and previously i got a lot of speedup using an algorithm i came up with

[clear sedge]

can you make a command buffer any-style

[real sierra]

probably? no reason i cant

but to be clear the draw functions available are very primitive

https://ocdoc.cil.li/component:gpu#componentgpu

we're talking

[clear sedge]

[obsidian mantle]

but all you need is squares

[real sierra]

setting draw colour

[obsidian mantle]

or no

[real sierra]

setting pixels to that colour

filling pixels to that colour

and copying regions of buffers to other positions

[clear sedge]

just make it a 1x1 screeen

easy

[real sierra]

currently im using a slightly-better-than-naive implementation

where it scans in a Z-pattern and writes all the recent pixels to the current colour each time it encounters an upcoming colour change

[rough bloom]

yes, but it's kinda meaningless
all the operations are synchronous, building and submitting a buffer has the same cost as just executing those commands immediately
you can't get more performance by doing other work while it's drawing

[clear sedge]

that's lame

[real sierra]

but the ideal way is to decompose the screen by colour and allow large fill operations which can encompass regions that you know will be overwritten later

the algorithm is just tedious to write

[real sierra]

*ideal in this case means the best algorithm im aware of

[clear sedge]

ooh that's smart

i'd have just given up and made it a server plugin

[real sierra]

the most annoying part of it is that the ordering in which you draw colours matters

[clear sedge]

makes sense

[obsidian mantle]

is screenshot processed in-game or it gets already 160x50 pixelated image?

[real sierra]

and i don't know how to pick a good ordering

[clear sedge]

just randomise it

[real sierra]

like if this is my image

its easy to see that you can fill pink first, then fill blue second

two gpu calls to draw the entire image

[rigid snow]

ok now implement hls in lua, implement h264 decoding in lua, write rendering code

[real sierra]

so the order is obvious

[rigid snow]

or av1 whatever they use now

[real sierra]

for something like this the order is much less obvious

[clear sedge]

two pink calls or two red calls

hmm

[obsidian mantle]

just find the max rectangle that fits the color

[real sierra]

yeah you get it

[rigid snow]

it's obvious to me, you fill 1,1 with pink, fill 2,1 with pink, fill 3,1 with pink

[obsidian mantle]

isnt it always "max edge = draw first because its background"

one sec

[real sierra]

the last time i tried to implement this i dont think i solved the colour ordering problem

i just used a fixed order and then a greedy algorithm to create the rects

[obsidian mantle]

draw by size

[real sierra]

you need to redraw the pink in

[clear sedge]

you're missing a rectangle

[real sierra]

the red will overwrite it

[obsidian mantle]

yeah break red rectangle into 2

[real sierra]

or that

that's also valid

[clear sedge]

[obsidian mantle]

what if its not a rectangle

[real sierra]

[clear sedge]

you just accept death

[real sierra]

yeah

nothing you can do

but yeah the problem of decomposing rectangles is solved

its just the issue of figuring out what order to draw colours in

i dont have a heuristic for that

[obsidian mantle]

for pictures like this its useless anyway isnt it

mostly noisy picture

[clear sedge]

lowkey i'd randomise it just to see what'd come out of it

[obsidian mantle]

you get like 10% performance maybe

when you need 2000%

[real sierra]

no it matters a lot

if you look at this pic again

[clear sedge]

just draw an entire rectangle with the texture of the screen duh

[real sierra]

it's very colour reduced

you can drop the calls needed significantly if you're clever

[clear sedge]

this reminds me of a similar problem

[real sierra]

the noisy parts like the grass are obviously gg

[clear sedge]

sorting different images to fit in the smallest size pot square

[real sierra]

but the sky and the overlay could benefit lots

[obsidian mantle]

right i see it.. hm

[clear sedge]

my mind makes the connection

[obsidian mantle]

how much will it give

x2-3 performance?

not much for base 1 fps

[clear sedge]

sort the rectangles
widest goes leftmost and downmost (starts up) position where it can fit
tallest goes up to down, and left to right where it can fit
unsure how helpful this would be but my solution was pretty much almost equivalent to this for sorting images in a texture atlas

[real sierra]

The main thing is that the OpenComputers GPU has a fixed budget for calls. Each call has a cost, with a fixed buffer for them: essentially, if we assume 1 is your entire call budget, on a Tier 3 GPU a set takes up 1/256 of the budget (regardless what the string length is!), a fill 1/128, a copy 1/64, a background/foreground color change 1/128 each, etc.

(from a random reddit reply by a deleted user from 7 years ago)

this is why fills are so important

a gpu "set" fills at most one line

and you can do 256 of them

a gpu "fill" can fill any arbitrary rect

and you get 128 of them

[clear sedge]

alright this is based and making me want to make a more efficient solution

it's time to whip out ol reliable

[rigid snow]

how the fuck does this even happen i'm so confused?

how does my request go to cloudflare

when it's a local ip

[real sierra]

dns?

[rigid snow]

i change the host header and it no longer does

i don't even know

the server does some weird thigns

i assume

[amber fractal]

Checking docs, you also have this for video

Copy a region from buffer to buffer, screen to buffer, or buffer to screen.```

[clear sedge]

oh nah i'm just gonna embed a chromium browser into a minecraft server

[amber fractal]

Thought I'd bring that up, depending on the method you use

@real sierra surely your approach does not involve entirely reconstructing each frame of video and using the previous frame as a base

[real sierra]

so i USED to not redraw pixels that were unchanged

that worked fine for drawing individual pixels

but when i switched to one set call per same-colour horizontal line of pixels, this was no longer tractible

because those same-colour lines do not tile the same between frames

[obsidian mantle]

so the drawing costs much, but calculations how exactly to draw are cheap

[real sierra]

i can offload everything to the code running on my real computer

except for the drawing

which must be done by lua in minecraft

[obsidian mantle]

then keeping unchanged pixels seems to be very good

i was thinking making 50000 compares is a lot

the number is random

then its not

[amber fractal]

Reminds me of some raster to SVG converters, except you'd only have squares and you need to diff from the previous frame.

the tough part is figuring out what you don't need to repeat

I guess you can just render both from scratch and compare the draw calls used You'd need a damn good model for that.

(Also 400 screens worth of pixel data is a decent amount of ram usage, let alone tracking how it is overlayed on the cpu. even some graphics apps struggle with that many layers.)

[clear sedge]

https://youtu.be/_CuD2oKyYZ0

I FOUND WHERE THE RAM WENT

REJOICE

RAID THIS FUCKER'S HOUSE

[vestal prism]

i kinda disklike Ruby, is just JS with sugar in the top

[gentle bear]

Have some of you worked with google drive api before? If so I'd like to know whether it is possible to make a bot that firstly takes the audio file from neuro covers drive and then play it threw my discord bot or I should manually copy the music to my drive and then play it? And of course isn't I violating something doing so? Because youtube seem to be not good thing with its recent policy

[true hemlock]

[young plover]

Don't know about the discord bot but it should be easy to just sync to your disk

[gentle bear]

Actually, let me paraphrase. Is the neuro cover drive accessible via google drive api to any user?

[amber fractal]

[young plover]

I added a shortcut to it in my own google drive, then I was able to sync it with TrueNAS. So presumably yes?

[gentle bear]

Sounds good to me

[umbral thorn]

[fast pagoda]

HELL YEAH

Full screenshot too big

"similar"

[midnight sigil]

[autumn ore]

Hello. I just came up with a big idea, I want to get the lava lamp backend api to find the color of neuro’s lamp, and then set up my home assistant system to change to that colour, how would one do this (@cinder trellis sorry for the ping but i AM going to forget about this so I’m going to ping you to consult to figure out how to set this up (I’m probably about to get banned for like life but ok))

[cinder trellis]

you can't rn

[mint shuttle]

Try watching better then

[autumn ore]

Then I will write code to look at stream get lava lamp color and display that

[rigid snow]

2x

[solar gorge]

Programmers try not to reinvent the circle challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

[jagged turtle]

isnt this the second time vedal has been @mentioned

in recent times

[maiden geyser]

can't play minecraft on nuerocord something my head

he also streams whatever sometimes in uhhhh general

[signal trout]

This week alone, it's the 83rd vedal ping (including reply pings) and the 11th direct (i.e. clearly intentional) vedal ping
It's insane that he gets pinged that much

[jagged turtle]

reply pings I don't count since its on by default so you might accidentally do it (also most people forget/don't bother to disable it)
direct ping I'm surprised though

like 11 is crazy

[signal trout]

I do understand the reply pings, but 11 regular pings is still a lot for the last 7 days

for it being one of the rules, at least

almost 4 back-to-back, lol

[sage crag]

at vedal

fix problem

[jagged turtle]

I need context on the top two

[sage crag]

thank you

[jagged turtle]

at vedal fix problem somehow kthxbye

[sage crag]

[olive sable]

CGI dog escaping the matrix :mhm:

Imagine the mhm, i ran out of nitro

Can i not buy a full year? In this economy i cant do monthly

[faint sandal]

pixelated dog in front a smash bros stage

trapped in a monitor

[midnight sigil]

dog

[olive sable]

[jagged turtle]

?

[olive sable]

I cant buy a year apparently

I had to gift myself a year instead

[jagged turtle]

what

[olive sable]

Nope

Not available in my region

Had to do this

[mint shuttle]

https://scriptkiddiesheaven.dpdns.org/media

[rigid snow]

ip grabber

[mint shuttle]

nginx is ip grabber, not me 🙂

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

[sage crag]

its probably my dns filter

[rigid snow]

yes me speak japanese

i understand what it say

[sage crag]

multilingual chip

[rigid snow]

scriptkiddiesheaven.dpdns.org

• _ _ Firefox

[mint shuttle]

i'm using free dns, maybe dpdns.org is baned by your enthernet provider

[sage crag]

i already gave the reason i cant connect to it

all of digitalplat appears to be on my dns blocklist

probably because they provide free domains, which are almost always used for phishing or similar

[mint shuttle]

yes

[rigid snow]

speaking of, how do i stop hoarding domains

[sage crag]

give them to me

[mint shuttle]

my site just for fun and my shit-posts, it's not phishing, rat, etc

but have some rickrolls

[rigid snow]

which ones

[sage crag]

all

[rigid snow]

but i don't wanna

[sage crag]

new chip

[sage crag]

who in russia keeps sending me http requests

[rigid snow]

phishing, rat, mouse, mole, squirrel, beaver etc

[opaque sigil]

sorry i'll stop

[sage crag]

than k you

cloudflare downtime tracker

[mint shuttle]

my server rn getting bot like requests from many ips:

167.94.146.** - - [06/Dec/2025 15:01:46] "GET /security.txt HTTP/1.0" 302 -

[rigid snow]

wait are moles rodents

[sage crag]

down 10.47120418848168% of the time

thanks cloudflare

[rigid snow]

my data is useless because of healthchecks

unlucky

[sage crag]

the person in russia (yes its just 1 ip) is only sending http/1.1 requests

its totally a robot

[rigid snow]

me not robot

[sage crag]

[rigid snow]

i think

(maybe robot but forgot due to chip)

[sage crag]

people all over the world want my dns records

that is last 24 hours

[rigid snow]

from my experience it's literally just noise and none of this is real

[sage crag]

ye

well, actually, there was this one dns data collection lab in the netherlands

that kept querying my dns records every minute or so

[rigid snow]

vuln scanners, domain scanners, scanner scanners

[sage crag]

they stopped some time ago, and now germany is on top

[tender river]

my ip is in frankfurt