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short ingot
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or the outerlands module is not interrupting correctly

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updated this and noted the line number for the interrupt func

sage crag
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comments neuroCry

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short ingot
short ingot
sage crag
obsidian mantle
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i dont get it

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i can edit the code but cant run terminal commands

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so its readonly but not for code

short ingot
obsidian mantle
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wtf why does it say im nakurity

short ingot
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I see you as u!

obsidian mantle
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i think its bugged

short ingot
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run ctrl+shift+alt+`

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to open a terminal

obsidian mantle
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does it work ok in browser

short ingot
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Im using a browser rn

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so I don't know if codespaces is affecting liveshare or not

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oh

sage crag
short ingot
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I forgot to open a terminal and share it :I'mStupidWhat:

short ingot
obsidian mantle
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there were 2 terminals for some reason

short ingot
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its ok!

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as long as it works

obsidian mantle
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it doesnt pass this condition

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i mean this

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not self.capturing_multiline

short ingot
restive fossil
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hi, does anyone know how to check if an llm api supports response_format

obsidian mantle
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the bottom print doesnt print

restive fossil
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i don't want to have to check openrouter every time

short ingot
short ingot
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otherwise I assume there would be a standard format, right?

obsidian mantle
short ingot
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normally openai compatible is the standard

restive fossil
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i mean I could check their docs manually, would be nice to have a programmatic way of doing it though LULE

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openai is a bit too uptight sometimes

short ingot
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to programmitically check

restive fossil
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despair gonna have to query openrouter every time and just cache that i suppose

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thanks

short ingot
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np!

short ingot
# obsidian mantle

I assume there are a few conditions to set that to true, unless we just invert it. neurOMEGALUL

tender river
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NOT interested

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obsidian mantle
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wait im confused it might not even need to enter that part

short ingot
short ingot
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oops, what did we do?

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why did it fail to print the most basic hello world?

obsidian mantle
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it starts with this for some reason

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short ingot
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ooohh...

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short ingot
obsidian mantle
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check_and_capture already has things that are below [below]

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this never passes

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short ingot
obsidian mantle
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yes the only time check_and_capture is called it has line like that

short ingot
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if it is, then its supposed to be somewhere else

obsidian mantle
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whats this @short ingot

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whats liny

short ingot
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its here

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its printing the line that it captured

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wait-

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nvm, its intended

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tokens to ast has a listener that calls listen for line events now

dapper kernel
jagged turtle
dry crest
short ingot
restive fossil
slate bear
restive fossil
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Is anyone working on hooking this to the neuro sdk

olive sable
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Gm

cosmic sphinx
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this man done insane work

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slate bear
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My point was if
Ai. Drink water then
ai is eat food too

slate bear
silent cloak
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man no matter how i try to pre-plan graphics related structures for something like my game engine i always feel like i need to rewrite it

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i hate just having long lines of coupled functions dealing with render passes and such

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and this is just working with the OpenGL part of the system because the engine is technically API agnostic

rigid snow
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i think sound design alone is rarely that interesting, especially if it's a synth sound (tonal, to be played melodically) you're making. it's how you use it
so my opinion is: cool i guess now go make something crazy

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ok being honest i think i'm subconsciously trying to justify myself not being impressed

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because as soon as i started thinking of cool sound design it's all bass sounds

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the “it’s how you use it” part still very true though

hard raptor
rigid snow
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nothing? i said all examples of cool sound design i can think of are bass

slate bear
olive sable
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My laptop keeps crashing AAA
Not even blue screen cuz they changed it to black now

rigid snow
rigid snow
hard raptor
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's a problem

rigid snow
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i fail to see where i implied it is

hard raptor
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sowwy 3:

olive sable
rigid snow
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and me not being impressed isn’t a bad thing

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it’s just that this patch in isolation isn’t anything to be impressed over

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imo

slate bear
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I thought if tpm have storage then it will play doom

silent cloak
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manually sending electrons through a circuit to play doom

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actually if u can make a system that can hold each state then maybe

rigid snow
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that’s the word

slate bear
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I will need understand first how tpm works then we can play doom on tpm

silent cloak
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did u guys see the one running on the pregnancy test?

hearty notch
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gm

neat cosmos
silent cloak
hard raptor
rigid snow
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for sure

obsidian mantle
sick owl
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Third party inference API providers continue to prove that you're better off just hiring a GPU instance

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Or running off your own hardware obvs

obsidian mantle
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wtf is vending bench

sick owl
rare bramble
sick owl
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Kimi K2 on its best runs is actually competitive with Grok 4, it just has high variance

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rare bramble
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i would hardly call vending machine a business

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"Agents must balance inventories, place orders, set prices, and handle daily fees - tasks that are each simple but collectively, over long horizons (>20M tokens per run) stress an LLM's capacity for sustained, coherent decision-making."

sick owl
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A small business, but a business nonetheless

karmic birch
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Anyone have any ideas on how Neuro Sama emotion generation works?

merry steppe
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Good morning to all of you.

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I hope you dont mind me bugging you all with something but I could use some help with a big project that I want to make a layout for and that will be after a debut but I'll need help with the programming side of things since I'm learning as a self taught after trying out Javascript classes and such

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Would anyone be able or willing to lend a hand?

obsidian mantle
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vtube project?

merry steppe
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Yes and no. Yes it will be in conjunction with my own model but at the same time a completely secondary project to compliment it and as such will take time

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Shall I elaborate?

obsidian mantle
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i probably cant offer anything

merry steppe
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Its an AI that i want to develop as part of my story. Thats the part I need help with

obsidian mantle
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what kind of ai

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(im just curious, dont expect me to offer anything neuroBwaa )

merry steppe
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Not a full body type AI like neuro for now but part of my lore includes my Mobike suits AI having to merge robotic parts with my body and such to keep me alive. So with that said, something like a Jarvis type from Iron Man. Something that will like Crack jokes on stream, maybe remind me of stuff OC wise and stuff like that.

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If that makes sense of course

obsidian mantle
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so talking-head llm thonk

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there is really no difference between full-body and any body at all if there is one

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unless its a static image

merry steppe
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Except for my OC it will come from a wrist protector and such but you have the gist of thevtheory

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Im having a toggle made with a moveable little image for representation purposes

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Like a baby phoenix or something similar. Maybe a wolf? Im not sure yet

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But i want to be able to turn it on even without said toggle. Thats why I need help to lay out all of these ideas and such to figure out what I can do and what wouldn't work

obsidian mantle
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what is a "toggle" is it like some obs button?

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because how else do you want it to be turned on

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voice?

merry steppe
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Ok so are you familiar with the Yautja or Predator?

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And a toggle is a type of action you can use to change something about your model. Most common are adding or removing clothes, but can also do things like changing poses and such which is what I meant

obsidian mantle
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im not sarcastic i just dont see your idea what do you want

merry steppe
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Thats another part I'm not sure of yet

obsidian mantle
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it will be some sort of toggle then anyway

merry steppe
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Can I post an image in here for reference?

obsidian mantle
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why not

merry steppe
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It isn't letting me. Don't know why

obsidian mantle
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no embed perms probably

merry steppe
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Maybe

obsidian mantle
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just describe it or send a link

merry steppe
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I'll send the image to you

obsidian mantle
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ok

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so its a thing on your arm

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merry steppe
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For the most part yes

obsidian mantle
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and you want llm to speak with voice

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you need to set up llm + tts

merry steppe
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Part of the lore is she's embedded in the core or heart of the suit and she talks through that device and such

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Yea more than likely

obsidian mantle
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toggle is very arbitrary, if you can do everything apart from the toggle - toggle will come as easy as nothing

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or find someone to do that rather

merry steppe
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Yes but as ibsaid these are things I'm still very new to and I'm learning on my own

rigid snow
obsidian mantle
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thonk i just dont know how it looks from the vtuber's side

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what am i, a vtuber? naah

rigid snow
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keyboard shortcuts

hollow matrix
obsidian mantle
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why did you launch 50 wsls neuroMonkaOMEGA

hollow matrix
obsidian mantle
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what does first console say

hollow matrix
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The booting up stuff, and then closing like the rest

faint sandal
hollow matrix
obsidian mantle
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i just wanted to discover what is the idea to "turn it on" without a toggle

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so i tried to understand what is meant by toggle because how else are you going to do it

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i have general idea of what it is, even though i never seen it myself neurOMEGALUL

faint sandal
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so you don't always want certain layers to be visible at all times maybe because you want to change things up sometimes

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most vtubers tie the various toggles they have to hotkeys

obsidian mantle
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i think i did it with mouse in obs once

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yeah makes sense

hollow matrix
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This is fine

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obsidian mantle
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are they launching automatically

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what happens if you shut them all down

rigid snow
obsidian mantle
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do they reopen

rigid snow
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three toggles

obsidian mantle
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is it actually being run in plain unity or its compiled application

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i mean in editor

faint sandal
hollow matrix
# obsidian mantle do they reopen

No, it opens a new one every time wsl starts, so now that the Ubuntu terminal is open it can't stop anymore which fixed the problem

obsidian mantle
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i knew how toggle looks from viewers side

faint sandal
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toggles are explicitly defined in VTS by the rigger, which tells the live2d engine what layers to switch on or off

obsidian mantle
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live2d engine

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huh

rigid snow
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vtube studio most of the time

faint sandal
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they're compiled in the cmo3 format

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and then loaded and interpreted by the engine

faint sandal
obsidian mantle
faint sandal
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to clarify I'm talking about the model

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the toggles themselves are separately defined in a json file

hollow matrix
young plover
hollow matrix
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I don't even know how 96% is being used, I have 16GB of RAM

patent shard
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good news, it was not a gel battery... it was AGM.. my mom lied
whew... and the voltage was just too low for the battery charger to work, so it just said bad battery... had to start with 30 amp boost and then charge from there
it should be fiiiine

hollow matrix
olive sable
obsidian mantle
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oh wait i see

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its 16

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thonk wtf

hollow matrix
obsidian mantle
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"reserved by system" or smth

dry crest
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My ai is back too being stupid:

You: hi
Bot: howbaredy!
You: what?
Bot: are goothing,
You: what is goothing?
Bot: nope, i'm sooth now mathery well!
You: thats nonsense
Bot: totally!
You: what is 1 + 1?
Bot: i'm a sofhoing, butalion!

merry steppe
obsidian mantle
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its cached or smth

hollow matrix
obsidian mantle
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there was some advanced menu in win 10

hollow matrix
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I have win 11 tho

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faint sandal
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same thing it's mentioned below

merry steppe
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I am going to start planning this out which is why I asked for help

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So all in all i have plans but no clear idea of what will work, what can work, and what will not

young plover
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Process explorer gives more details about how much physical ram or shared memory a process is using

obsidian mantle
obsidian mantle
faint sandal
patent shard
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actually, I think my mom was just hallucinating a lot of information... the main thing I'm seeing is gel is sensitive to overcharge
probably should of looked at the battery and information myself >.>
I don't think it going down to 6 volts will brick the battery to un-usability

young plover
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glue I don't even see a reason to use the Discord desktop app. Pinning it in a browser tab is more efficient.

obsidian mantle
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thonk there was something that i hated about web version but forgot what

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maybe it was long ago

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and now its same

young plover
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web version can't do rich-presence detection but that's the only difference I noticed

hollow matrix
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I feel like process explorer's data doesn't even account for all of it, still to low

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young plover
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rammap?

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faint sandal
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private bytes and working set are not the same thing

hollow matrix
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private bytes gives this

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faint sandal
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the WSL instance allocates its own physical pool of memory

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it is not going to be visible here

hollow matrix
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So it's wsl then?

faint sandal
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also what the hell is the adobe ui doing

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primarily yes - you can verify this by wsl --shutdown

hollow matrix
young plover
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Oh yeah if you haven't then I'd set

[experimental]
autoMemoryReclaim=gradual
```in `%USERPROFILE%/.wslconfig`
hollow matrix
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So like this?

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young plover
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Yeah then wsl --shutdown to reboot it and apply the setting

hollow matrix
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Nothing changed, still 96% RAM use

young plover
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Is it actually causing problems?

hollow matrix
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I mean, it slows some things down

faint sandal
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realistically unless you're actively using wsl you don't really need it running in the background at all times

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also do you have WSA installed

hollow matrix
faint sandal
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it won't start on its own - something else triggered WSL-related components

hollow matrix
faint sandal
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what about windows sandbox

hollow matrix
faint sandal
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it probably also doesn't help that dell crapware is running in the background

hollow matrix
faint sandal
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and yeah consider uninstalling the dell components and close out of adobe-related instances when you're not using the services

hollow matrix
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I can't end it

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faint sandal
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yes because it's running as VTL0 if you could end it it would mean big security problem

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it's better off that you uninstall it instead

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you can't manually manage the WS resources

hollow matrix
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I ended all the adobe shit that I have permission to end

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nvm, it all just starts again on it's own

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I found more, that might prevent it from starting?

sage crag
faint sandal
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it's probably running as a service

hollow matrix
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Why would this need so much, wtf is it doing

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mighty thorn
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I think steam should go public, with Gaben owning 95% of shares, for the sole reason of watching it go up year after year

olive sable
keen hatch
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I played around with the Kimi K2 Thinking more, overall, it's a pretty interesting model, but it requires a special approach (what works with other models doesn't work here). And on my hardware, it runs as fast as the DeepSeek v3, which is pretty cool. So, I'll likely use this model for some tasks in parallel with the DeepSeek )

olive sable
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btw, can public companies fully own themselves?

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cuz gabe should jsut keep having 100% then

keen hatch
opaque sigil
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you can buy back shares

olive sable
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i thought public jsut meant people can see your stocks

opaque sigil
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no they can buy them

olive sable
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cant they jsut buy 100% of themsleves then?

opaque sigil
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and not be a public company anymore? yeah

sage crag
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b

olive sable
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so there needs to be at least 1 other stock holder?

obsidian mantle
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thonk there must be people selling shares i think

lost hill
# olive sable btw, can public companies fully own themselves?

Public companies may have any of the staff members buy back shares or, even easier so, buy all of their shares themselves. If they do the letter, they just become a private company.

Since issuance of shares is a tedious process, when a PLC wishes to contract the amount of shares in public circulation, they just buy some shares instead of requesting the exchange to burn them.

This way, once they will need to issue more shares, they can just sell the ones that they own. It's way cheaper

opaque sigil
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i think technically you don't have to sell your shares

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could be wrong

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but at that point why even bother

obsidian mantle
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if there are 1000 people having some share of a company, but its not on sale so nobody else can buy any shares

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is it still public

olive sable
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idk

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dont ask me

young plover
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Would need to be listed on a stock exchange

obsidian mantle
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and vice versa - if only one guy owns 100% of shares, but he has all of them on sale

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is it private company

olive sable
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you can see the profit of a public company, but why not of a private company if the only difference is that they fully own themselves?

lost hill
lost hill
opaque sigil
mighty thorn
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Also I’m officially requesting to be spam pinged once Frieren season 2 comes out

opaque sigil
lost hill
olive sable
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@mighty thorn CerberDinkDonk1

mighty thorn
olive sable
sage crag
olive sable
mighty thorn
olive sable
lost hill
mighty thorn
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what

lost hill
mighty thorn
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Very cool

patent shard
olive sable
sick owl
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Its a great model, just takes a bit of getting used to

bleak totem
# lost hill

Oh, I started watching manga at the right time😅

dull egret
dry crest
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Why can my ai not do math!?

You: what is 1 + 1?
Bot: 11

tender river
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because he was outstanding in his field

safe path
tender river
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because they make up everything

obsidian mantle
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What data 1 + 1 = 11 can be based on

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I understand 9+10=21

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But 11

rare bramble
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fsh

obsidian mantle
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This week is going to be so ass i dont want to sleep neurOMEGALUL

ebon willow
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I hate to ask this in here I prefer to just lurk but does anyone know much about fixing windows 10 update errors? because I need some advice for work if that's ok

obsidian mantle
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Isnt win10 pretty much stable

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Do you have official version or some repack with telemetry removed or something like that

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Do you have laptop
Is it old
Did it come with win10 originally

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I have a feeling that clean install on desktop must be stable on any setup unless you are using some 1984 gpu

young plover
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Usually if a Windows update still fails after rebooting, clearing some of the cached files fixes it
Reboot into safe mode
Delete all of the files inside C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution and C:\Windows\System32\catroot2 (I think you might also need to disable the cryptSvc temporarily?)
Reboot windows normally
Attempt update again

real sierra
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we're discussing a legal install right?

obsidian mantle
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Shiro when chess

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Also happy birthday

real sierra
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an announcement about chess is forthcoming

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I just need time and focus free to write it

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and i lack both

obsidian mantle
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Weekend please neuroPray

real sierra
obsidian mantle
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It doesnt boot up after update and rolls back?

tender river
opal skiff
olive sable
amber fractal
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js my beloathed

obsidian mantle
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Or is it

olive sable
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in python it is

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idk

obsidian mantle
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Hmmm

faint sandal
opaque sigil
olive sable
faint sandal
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my home is illegal mhm

ebon willow
slate bear
olive sable
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not my area of expertise tho

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for random data its fine, but i heard that for windows it can cause issues

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i would just back up the data, and do a clean install of windows

merry steppe
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How is everyone doing tonight

olive sable
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im good

slate bear
olive sable
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i like how uma musume is the only non-caps part of that sentence

gritty dust
slate bear
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Im. Thinking about that i should change my profile picture but I can't find right one yet

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I got one

merry steppe
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Was trying to get a board together to plan out an AI and got nowhere today

signal trout
olive sable
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meow umansume

tender river
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til about git log -S NeurOhISee useful

slate bear
silent cloak
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i finished rebuilding my render pipeline

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mostly

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some sections still need some abstracting

hollow matrix
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@real sierra No fucking way, my urban dictionary definition got accepted neuroHypers

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real sierra
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do not get the shiro mug NAHH

hollow matrix
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Wait, wrong channel, I'm forwarding this to general

young plover
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You can't stop me. I have free will. prometheus

slate bear
tender river
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minor use of deprecated features

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amber fractal
amber fractal
olive sable
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imagine at open sauce just a horde of neurocord programmers in uniform

ivory plinth
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hello programmings i have returned from committing rm -rf on my efi folder

opaque sigil
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nice

slate bear
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I fix calculation module

sage crag
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wrrr

radiant talon
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awesome

sage crag
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⁷

radiant talon
tender river
radiant talon
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Fuck u I dont have embed perms

tender river
ivory plinth
hearty notch
rigid snow
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brightness-glare-shock-scare-too-bright-gif

hearty notch
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ok

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i got owned

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im gonna leave for a week now bye

rigid snow
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it embedded wdym

radiant talon
plain dagger
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lol

radiant talon
latent cedar
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guys what if instead of VRChat vedal can use Resonite instead to put Neuro into a vr social game

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Resonite is like VRChat but it allows in game scripting and programming

slate bear
dense sky
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Hello fellow thigh high enjoyers

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Anyone here mod mc?

slate bear
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I'm testing image regonisation model

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I will share image regonisation model sample

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First maths test :)

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Ignore sorce code

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amber fractal
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correct answer neuroHypers

slate bear
amber fractal
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It is correct answer Minamhm

slate bear
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Maybe I will train image regonisation model

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And I don't enough data to train image regonisation model

nocturne olive
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Image models silly
I prefer vocal synths

slate bear
nocturne olive
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?

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As in LLMs? Boring, vocal synth better

slate bear
nocturne olive
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Wa

slate bear
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I didn't priority music

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And traning audio and video is expensive

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Image regonisation is good options for me atleast now

nocturne olive
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Well what GPU are you working with?

slate bear
nocturne olive
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Oh I guess you can't vocal synthesizer then

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NeuroSynth training requires minimum 22GB VRAM to work well

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If you want decent VRAM you can get 3090s for cheap

slate bear
nocturne olive
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Vocal synth is really cool though, so you should try it if you ever get the VRAM

slate bear
nocturne olive
slate bear
nocturne olive
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Oh VRAM
I recommend 3090 if you want a cheap VRAM good compute option

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I got mine for around 500-550 euros

slate bear
nocturne olive
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Well it varies by country obviously

hollow matrix
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I just updated my laptop and when it finished windows opened to a website with notes on the latest additions, AND THIS WAS THE FILE EXPLORER ICON IN ONE OF THE IMAGES neurOMEGALUL

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nocturne olive
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I got mine from Belgium, cheapeer than locally from Finland

nocturne olive
hollow matrix
slate bear
hollow matrix
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Which is so fucking stupid because it would be easier to just get fucking screenshots

nocturne olive
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Microsoft is just stupid these days, they even vibecode the OS so bad it gets a billion bugs in prod

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Just get Linux at this point

hollow matrix
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If you are showing AI generated shit, you aren't even actually showcasing the product

dense sky
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Man I wish I had a good computer. I just have spinning decade old rust of a laptop atp

hollow matrix
dense sky
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Takes 15 minutes to get from power button press to Desktop

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Sometimes longer

slate bear
nocturne olive
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Windows is basically a dead platform

jagged turtle
jagged turtle
dense sky
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/j

slate bear
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I will use windows 10 pro or 7 at this point

dense sky
hollow matrix
slate bear
hollow matrix
nocturne olive
hollow matrix
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ok gn fr neuroSleep

slate bear
nocturne olive
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Why SteamOS specifically? Have you researched other Linux distros?

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Nothing wrong with SteamOS, just curious

slate bear
nocturne olive
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Every Linux distro does that

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Every Linux distro runs Steam, Steam comes with Proton, Proton runs Windows games

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Apps run on WINE and WINE works on every distro too

slate bear
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I get it now

nocturne olive
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It's part of Steam, not SteamOS

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I personally use Linux Mint and Steam games work flawlessly

rigid snow
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what do you mean ai gen

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it's a folder in a binder

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or a stand i guess

maiden geyser
jagged turtle
silk bolt
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Is it too late to learn coding just before colledge guys :3 just feel it quite fun but my head hurt with all the new computery stuff lol(starting with py)

tender river
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never too late vedalShrug

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if you wanna learn just do it

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no excuses

silk bolt
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no no I mean as studying for bacherlor too not just tackle it

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I got 1 year

tender river
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depends on the uni but many dont expect prior programming knowledge

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at least in theory

silk bolt
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oh really, ok thats gonna motivate me alot thanks

tender river
silk bolt
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thanks you

tender river
silk bolt
covert bane
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what are your guys's criteria for viewing an language as the most inefficient language you've ever seen.

rigid snow
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efficiency is the opposite of verbosity i feel like

jagged turtle
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hi @rigid snow

rigid snow
jagged turtle
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not much happening, i'm just trying to think how would I set up a subproject in neuropilot to run vite + preact but not have it require entirely separate subpackages for every webview

rigid snow
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is your build at this point just tsc?

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subpackages for each webview is insane btw

rough bloom
rigid snow
jagged turtle
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tsc is just there for type checking as esbuild does not do that

rigid snow
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right, only thing that's missing is jsx transform

jagged turtle
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idt there's a pre-made "plugin" for preact + esbuild but there probably is a generic jsx transform package for preact

rough bloom
dry charm
rigid snow
dry charm
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But get what you mean, it would be ass manually doing the linking

rigid snow
rough bloom
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Java just came to mind as being particularly verbose

jagged turtle
dry charm
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Any small complex stuff and you are fighting gradle for days

rough bloom
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why must Java have multiple build systems and why are they all shit

rigid snow
rough bloom
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just make a single good one please

rigid snow
jagged turtle
rigid snow
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.htm file?

sage crag
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htm

jagged turtle
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yeah ok so a .htm file is how you do it

rigid snow
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no

jagged turtle
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?

rigid snow
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it's jsx but with string templates

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.ts

jagged turtle
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oh I'm blindge

rigid snow
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idk about the performance overhead of parsing all of that at runtime

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yeah nvm do jsx

jagged turtle
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jsx also sounds simpler in a way but probs because I've had more experience with jsx/tsx than with htm

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also it would be nice if like

rigid snow
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it's literally the sam ething

jagged turtle
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that's why I said sounds

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never said is

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because it would be wrong

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is that stupid? yes but when am I not stupid

rigid snow
jagged turtle
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jsx requires a build step either way

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right?

rigid snow
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ye

rigid snow
jagged turtle
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👍

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sorry wait wrong emote

rigid snow
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but they suggest building anyways which scares me

jagged turtle
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I think I'll just set up like a small preact project in there as a subpackage and also try to figure out if having multiple HTML entrypoints will work

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it does right?

rigid snow
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you'd have to specify multiple entrypoints in some config

jagged turtle
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vite does that but idk if the preact plugin will respect it

rigid snow
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vite consumes the plugin not the other way around

jagged turtle
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no I meant like

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idk if the preact plugin will see the entrypoints stuff

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idk about vite internals tbh

rigid snow
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it doesn't need to

jagged turtle
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oh so it just sorta runs it once for every html entrypoint?

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or smth?

rigid snow
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it doesn't see it because that's not what the plugin does, the bundler itself traverses the entrypoints

jagged turtle
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ahhhhhhhhhh

rigid snow
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it uses the plugin when needed (upon meeting jsx in this case)

jagged turtle
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I seeeeeee

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right so lesson learned I should get more braincells miniko12Omegalul

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I also kinda want to see if it's maybe possible to have a dev mode where it just refreshes the files instead of providing a dev link

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I know something like that exists for one of the vite plugins that helps author browser extensions

rigid snow
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in other examples of embedded webviews - electron, tauri etc. - hmr works by just pointing the webview to a local dev server

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idk if that's possible in vscode

jagged turtle
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I mean what we could do then is maybe have 2 different webviews - one for dev mode, one for prod mode

Prod mode would be the actually built files, dev mode would be a shell webview similar to the thing currently being used for docs webview

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and then at runtime flick it depending on if we're in dev extension host or normal extension host

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I'm pretty sure there is a key/function that returns either a string or a boolean that can tell us if we're in extension dev host at runtime, lemme see if that's true

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Ah, fun

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rigid snow
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yes

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that's usually process.env.NODE_ENV and is what i was typing out

jagged turtle
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lol

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uh I'll probably get a baseline working soon™, the thing I was gonna work on instead is delayable so I'm gonna delay it glueless

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although actually it might be better to finish your PR first before starting on it

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hmmmmm do I wanna use rolldown-vite mewmoteHmm

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rigid snow
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why would you if you already have esbuild

rigid snow
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i think so too

rigid snow
jagged turtle
rigid snow
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i don't know at this point

jagged turtle
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fair

short ingot
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what was the question? (I'm too lazy to scroll up, but I want to suggest things) nvm, thanks for ignoring me

jagged turtle
rigid snow
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yeah

rigid snow
short ingot
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what were we talking about then?

jagged turtle
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for wide-screen webviews it may be good enough but I would imagine it is hard to try and like, mind-shape it on the sidebar when you're looking at it in a browser or smth

short ingot
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what is kt making actually?

rigid snow
short ingot
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oooh

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well thats a big wall of text I have to scroll thru to see the context D:

rigid snow
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irc mode vedalPray

short ingot
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anyways, sorry for interrupting

rigid snow
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you're good this is a public channel

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sorry for taking over

short ingot
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I have no idea what's going on, so I'll just neuroSleep

short ingot
jagged turtle
rigid snow
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what do you mean by that

jagged turtle
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currently esbuild can turn ts into js but it does not perform type checking itself

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unless that was added after I set up esbuild for the project

rigid snow
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that would never be added

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point of esbuild is to build your project as fast as possible, if you need type checking use tsc

jagged turtle
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ik

rigid snow
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if you need type checking as part of the build you do this

"scripts": {
  "build": "tsc && esbuild"
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if you need a complete solution use vite

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for the whole project MONKA

jagged turtle
rigid snow
jagged turtle
rigid snow
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wait whaaat

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jagged turtle
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oh

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oops

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guess I'm 🥈

rigid snow
jagged turtle
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although I think there may be beta support for ESM loading in vscode, I remember reading that

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either that or I was reading electron's stuff

rigid snow
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electron is chromium bindings for node and both of those things support esm since forever

jagged turtle
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so then i don't really see why they couldn't support esm for vscode extensions?

rigid snow
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no clue

short ingot
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I may or may not have smh made my code async without using async definitions

jagged turtle
short ingot
jagged turtle
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or whatever the equivalent is in your lang

short ingot
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but the event listeners somehow became async

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I don't understand

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use the find search thingy in vscode or notepad to search outerlands

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bc the top is just the loading of the modules

rigid snow
jagged turtle
rigid snow
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this is simpler tho

jagged turtle
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it is simpler, not denying that

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just that it will keep me up at night for several weeks

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also I would assume esbuild can transform tsx

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also, vite build --watch is a thing, though idk what the point of it is, maybe I'll see how to wire up esbuild to work first and see if that's worth it

rigid snow
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it's gonna be the same thing

jagged turtle
#

fair

rigid snow
# 
diff --git a/esbuild-configs/webview.esbuild.js b/esbuild-configs/webview.esbuild.js
index 3d8bc53..05a5636 100644
--- a/esbuild-configs/webview.esbuild.js
+++ b/esbuild-configs/webview.esbuild.js
@@ -21,6 +21,7 @@ export async function webview(prodFlag, watchFlag) {
         logLevel: 'warning',
         tsconfig: './tsconfig.webview.json',
         treeShaking: true,
+        jsx: 'automatic',
         plugins: [
             polyfillNode({
                 polyfills: { // trying to make the build as small as possible
diff --git a/tsconfig.webview.json b/tsconfig.webview.json
index ec16101..a80b5f1 100644
--- a/tsconfig.webview.json
+++ b/tsconfig.webview.json
@@ -2,7 +2,9 @@
     "extends": "./tsconfig.base.json",
     "compilerOptions": {
         "lib": ["ES2024", "DOM"],
-        "outDir": "./out/webview"
+        "outDir": "./out/webview",
+        "jsx": "react-jsx",
+        "jsxImportSource": "preact"
     },
     "include": ["webview/**/*", "src/**/*"]
 }
\ No newline at end of file
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should literally be it

jagged turtle
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huh

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damn I'm stupid then

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lemme just uh

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go delete the new package rq

dry charm
rigid snow
jagged turtle
ivory plinth
true hemlock
#

problem is operating systems are massive codebase

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any llm would struggle way more than even novice programmers

#

but they insisted to use ai to code operating system lmao

ivory plinth
#

new user first message cirSlain

true hemlock
#

now you get windows 11 getting random issues that was oddly enough "not reproducible by Microsoft themself"

ivory plinth
true hemlock
#

man, windows 10 barely had any issues

ivory plinth
nocturne olive
ivory plinth
#

lmao

turbid bridge
true hemlock
#

that'd be my casual talk

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ah

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right

turbid bridge
true hemlock
#

have any of you had experience with trying out training a diffusion model with partially poisoned dataset (nightshade and glaze)? need to know to what extend these nightshade and glaze work

jagged turtle
true hemlock
#

which means

slate bear
turbid bridge
true hemlock
#

with enormous complex codebase that is written in C/C++ which is what majority of operating system are written on aside from ASM, using LLM is just straight up not a good idea

humble tapir
#

Context management is very hard.

true hemlock
dusty niche
#

the jit

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true hemlock
#

enlighten me

slate bear
turbid bridge
turbid bridge
dusty niche
hard raptor
#

Ableton works much better but at least FL is easier to set up inside wine and/or proton

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slate bear
rigid snow
#

there is a build of ableton out there ripped from the standalone push

nocturne olive
rigid snow
#

since the push is just a linux pc

#

ye now you know

nocturne olive
hard raptor
rigid snow
#

i mean it's not exactly a secret

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nocturne olive
#

Tech: easy
Vocal synthesis: easy
Mixing: simple enough
Instrumental: black magic wizardry

rigid snow
#

it's a creative thing mostly

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there isn't too much to learn

nocturne olive
#

Even just transcribing
Finding the right kind of instruments even is just impossibly hard

#

It should be as mechanical as vocal transcribing yet one is way easier than the other

rigid snow
#

i made my friend start producing, in 2 years he's already making better shit than i am with 11 years of experience

nocturne olive
#

Meanwhile I can't even find a singular instrument and go poke a real wizard instead

hard raptor
#

everytime i don't know what to use i just default to a cello and then figure it out later down the road

rigid snow
#

me but a sawwave

nocturne olive
#

Well like I was simply trying to transcribe a song's instrumental
I knew what the instrument I need sounds like
I got stuck looking for like many hours

hard raptor
#

i mean.. Cello sound usually is a few saw waves with modulation

rigid snow
#

or piano sometimes

rigid snow
nocturne olive
#

Not even remotely

hard raptor
rigid snow
#

vedalShrug low volume maybe

nocturne olive
rigid snow
#

somehow the solution to this is piracy

nocturne olive
#

Wa

rigid snow
#

(for legal reasons it joke)

nocturne olive
#

I don't even know how piracy would magically come up with the right kind of instrument out of nowhere

rigid snow
#

makes sense to me

hard raptor
nocturne olive
#

So weird
Either way I'm now just hoping the real wizard has the instruments needed

hard raptor
#

oh don't ya love it when trying to change the wave to square on serum crashes FL Studio

rigid snow
#

it doesn't want you to start making sq4 riddim, W serum

hard raptor
#

fr

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nah am just trying to make a bootleg/remix of Cry For You by SIDEPIECE

faint sandal
#

why is music discussion happening in programming

rigid snow
#

always has been

hard raptor
faint sandal
#

programming is a weird place to do it

rigid snow
#

too technical

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artists scared

faint sandal
#

that's like me talking about brush designs in programming

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kinda out of place

hard raptor
rigid snow
faint sandal
#

thonk alright

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"so about that phasing alignment issue"

rigid snow
#

jokes on you we do that intentionally

hard raptor
#

what i have for now is still very similar to the original song

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but not identical

faint sandal
#

what are you aiming for

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do you want a cover or remix or recreation

hard raptor
#

My sister is aiming for it to be a bit less.. bigroomy

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a bit more clubby

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i don't know really how to explain it

rigid snow
#

sister

faint sandal
#

mhm sister

sick owl
#

Okay this is clever

#

Man cut down on his heating bill using his home data centre

hard raptor
faint sandal
#

actual space heater pc running crysis 4

sick owl
slate bear
#

Let me ask u something
Both device has 2.4 ghz
And one support 4k fps 60 and second is 2k fps 30

faint sandal
#

my room in summer is unbearable thanks to me pc

sick owl
#

It heats their hot water and stuff too

faint sandal
sick owl
#

Oh that's cool, they were actually given the data centre and infrastructure for free in exchange for hosting it in their shed as part of a trial scheme

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And they got a solar panel setup thrown in with it to power the thing

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That's a damn good deal

faint sandal
#

oh cool

hard raptor
#

i uhhhhh

image.png
#

i did it again...

#

oops

rigid snow
faint sandal
#

WHAT are you doing

rigid snow
#

if that's what becomes "edge"

#

that's huge

sick owl
#

Yup

#

It would actually be pretty smart to self host services and then pipe the heat in to take the load off a regular boiler too if you're into homelabbing come to think of it

faint sandal
#

that seems like it'd be an immense amount of heat

rigid snow
#

you need an immense amount of heat to heat a house

#

the way i think is to manage it, so you have three loops, the inner one > heat exchanger > the (house) heating one and the cooling one (for excess heat)

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if, say, it's summer

sick owl
#

Ngl I really like this idea actually

#

Kudos to the guys who came up with it

faint sandal
#

i don't think it's a revolutionary concept but i think it'd be difficult to execute in practice, which they did here

sick owl
#

Another cool thing I found today

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Public instance of redlib, if you ever fancy looking at reddit for technical info but don't want the shame of doing so in public

faint sandal
#

there are plenty of libreddit-based instances these days cuz reddit's kinda ass

#

(redlib is the successor of libreddit)

sick owl
#

Honestly reddits frontend still does the job but I don't like to be the guy browsing reddit on his laptop in class neurOMEGALUL

faint sandal
#

i dont' feel like logging in when i want to browse reddit

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you can redirect all reddit links too with something like libredirect

sick owl
#

What a pain in the ass

#

Apparently they deemed it a piracy tool because it let you bypass article paywalls

faint sandal
#

what

#

still works for me

sick owl
#

Hmm, lemme try again

#

Yup, no dice here in the UK or on my VPN in Estonia

#

Wait no its working now neuroLETSGO

#

They were subpoena'd but I guess that was just a blip and the domains still up

faint sandal
sick owl
#

Yeah its working now :Saved:

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FBI can't do shit anyway since the devs in Russia iirc

#

Funny since I think Roskomnadzor actually has it blocked there

hard raptor
#

i uhhh

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i released the remix

faint sandal
#

epic

hard raptor
#

none of the services flagged copyright yet

rigid snow
#

susge which services

hard raptor
#

which usually happens within the first 5 minutes

#

and i did it 7 minutes ago

hard raptor
rigid snow
#

also wtf you just started

hard raptor
#

it was a project that was a few months old actually

rigid snow
#

oh

sage crag
olive sable
#

hello

sage crag
olive sable
hard raptor
olive sable
#

i am accidentally skipping school enub

hard raptor
#

i also just listened to the original.. and it's way less similar than i thought earlier

rigid snow
#

quiet master neuroBwaa

hard raptor
#

wdym?

rigid snow
#

is it not

#

is it something making it quieter

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on my end

hard raptor
#

probably

rigid snow
hard raptor
#

it is perfectly at 0db on my end

#

could also be some kind of compression discord does.. idk

rigid snow
#

if they do it's super new

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no here's my export played through discord

image.png
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weird

olive sable
#

audio nerds

hard raptor
#

oh on FL it does say it is quiet

#

wait i can fix

rigid snow
#

i like

hard raptor
#

If it's still too quiet then idk

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rigid snow
#

maybe some export setting

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that normalizes to X lufs

#

idk if that exists

hard raptor
#

maybe the service i use to actually upload makes it so that it goes to 0db no matter what the original file is at

rigid snow
#

like a distribution one? MONKA

sage crag
hard raptor
#

yeh

olive sable
rigid snow
#

MONKA uploading remixes to dsps without permission

sage crag
rigid snow
hard raptor
#

thank god this button exists

image.png
rigid snow
#

that soundcloud repost

olive sable
rigid snow
#

or whatever it called now

rigid snow
#

is that weird

hard raptor
#

soundcloud does distribution and stuff

rigid snow
hard raptor
#

don't know if it will also replace on like spotify and stuff tho

rigid snow
#

it should

hard raptor
rigid snow
hard raptor
hard raptor
rigid snow
#

also that wouldn't matter, it being at 0db or -6db or whatever, they normalize it

hard raptor
rigid snow
rigid snow
hard raptor
# rigid snow ok you got me there

the only thing is that soundcloud usually doesn't care whether you have permission or not and they specifically need the original artist to confirm it first.. somehow.. but i have handled that beforehand now.. so it should be alright

rigid snow
#

ye but other dsps

hard raptor
#

i ran into that issue with some of my other remixes

rigid snow
hard raptor
#

The vocal chain on this one is also really crazy

#

i also still have an unfinished remix of In Your Eyes by Robin Schulz in my vault somewhere lmao

#

but never got permission for that one so that one is never gonna see the light of day sadly

#

unless of course i share the demo right now

slate bear
hard raptor
#

i was already grabbing my phone

slate bear
#

Im working on system promt while sharing server pc with phone

hard raptor
#

not properly mastered tho

#

so maybe turn your volume down a little bit

slate bear
hard raptor
#

3 names on this one tho lmao

image.png
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i'm not even gonna explain all of them

#

Lets just say that the DayDRM alias is actually a group project

sage crag
#

100

olive sable
#

101

random pebble
#

so like
anyone have any clue of how Neuro be 3d?
I mean I have my guess
like maybe it's another AI dealing with 3d movement based on instruction Neuro gave
damn
so cool

sage crag
sage crag
#

most likely

#

also likely that its trained on some kind of mocap data

olive sable
#

what konii said ye

random pebble
rigid snow
#

vedal now make it a modality

random pebble
#

welp
time to learn more about AI
I want to create AM

rigid snow
#

idk if vision already is but if not...

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ye make it one

#

no separate models ok? separate models break my immersion neuroDinkDonk

#

what do you mean no data? i pay for sub you pay for data to be made tf

midnight sigil
sick owl
#

Can they hurry up and release Gemini 3 please

#

Like yeah you can predict the weather better and that's great

#

But I want my shiny toy ↓

rigid snow
#

arrow down

sick owl
olive sable
mighty thorn
mighty thorn
sage crag
#

"cheak" german link

rigid snow
#

neuroCatUuh what

sage crag
sick owl
sage crag
rigid snow
sage crag
#

no

rigid snow
sage crag
olive sable
#

🐸

sage crag
olive sable
mighty thorn
#

It’s all auxiliary

sage crag
#

rrr

mighty thorn
#

In fact most “changes” to it are downgrades via distillation and/or quantization

maiden geyser
mighty thorn
rigid snow